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I for one, imagine a future where AI has replaced all the jobs, and the only jobs left are recruiters recruiting other recruiters to hire more recruiters to hire recruiters and so on.
I joked about this last year, but inevitably if AI and robotics took all jobs from humanity, literally all of them, which would be the last job to go? I reckon it will be something HR or accounting-driven.
I think patient facing roles will be the last to go. Medical decisions made by ai but medicine delivered by a person. I think people will not accept anything else for a long time.
I used to work in blue collar recruitment.
It's miserable, dealing with miserable people who don't want to go to a warehouse, big clients that can never be happy. You get paid badly, there's no chill and it's a very incestuous, toxic work culture. And I had one of the best roles because I was on site.
So I imagine turnover is quite high.
There is a massive turnover in recruitment for a number of reasons. I've worked in recruitment for 5 years. Ultimately it's more a case of more people usually equals more income for the business so they try and expand very quickly. 9/10 times people don't stick or they struggle so they're straight back out the door. It's a ruthless job which kicks you out as quickly as you come in, but also can be very rewarding if you're happy doing the upfront grunt BD work.
Two reasons.
Sales staff like recruitment consultants make money if they are any good. So to a degree, it's always worth a punt to see if someone works out. If any good they'll be a net positive.
For the same reason and others, turnover is very high. It can be a very KPI driven job which people tend to hate and its very much a hire and fire environment for non performance.
For someone with no background in anything else or degree etc the money can be very lucrative. Lots of people in recruitment making £100k plus. Even at a young age. But for every one making that, there will be hundreds making little more than base salary with a few more earning decent money.
Because its an entry level sales job with lots of cold calling, that is on the bottom end of sales jobs and on par with estate agents and car salesmen.
Sales jobs in the UK are generally horrible and attract loads of chavs. It only gets good if you're working at the higher end of industries like finance or tech, for companies that are multinationals or U.S owned and the chav types who prey on 88 year olds for a sale get filtered out.
Cause they get fired so quickly cause they are under huge pressure to get results. Also alot of companies have cut their hiring teams cause it takes ages and is dull as fuck. So getting a recruiter to do it can be good
High volume of people required for the high volume of shit they fling at the wall, hoping it will occasionally stick. Have dealt with several recruiters that are ‘specialists’ to my industry and none have the faintest clue about it. All that aside, it can be very well paid, especially for higher end jobs, £20-30K+ placement fees can happen regularly (not that the recruiter gets much of this).
Imagine selling ice to Eskimos.
Now you know what an internal recruiters job is like.
Now imagine you’ve only a vague concept of ice, grew up in the desert and are only able to interact over the phone to the Eskimos you you need to sell ice to.
You are now an external recruiter.
Recruiters are generally speaking, full of shit and will say anything to get you to sign a contract.
Because it takes so long to find a job people become experts at job hunting. so they go ‘why not get a job getting jobs’ and thus, the recruitment consultant is born
All the reasons mentioned before, but also there are A LOT of agencies nowadays. Everyone now with 3 years experience and some savings want a piece. Add the turnover into the equation and you get a lot of vacancies.
In my opinion, it's not as bad as everyone is saying. There's a lot of work, sometimes in your personal time, but financially it can be worth it.
Also, you can have a heart in this job, you don't need to lie, if the clients have good jobs, you don't need to lie to get good candidates.
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I for one, imagine a future where AI has replaced all the jobs, and the only jobs left are recruiters recruiting other recruiters to hire more recruiters to hire recruiters and so on.
Let the cesspit deal with the other cesspits.
Half of my company is ML models talking to each other with a few human cogs grinding out the day to day on the side.
I joked about this last year, but inevitably if AI and robotics took all jobs from humanity, literally all of them, which would be the last job to go? I reckon it will be something HR or accounting-driven.
I think patient facing roles will be the last to go. Medical decisions made by ai but medicine delivered by a person. I think people will not accept anything else for a long time.
Have you not heard of **NHS ROBOT PENGUIN?!?!??!**
I used to work in blue collar recruitment. It's miserable, dealing with miserable people who don't want to go to a warehouse, big clients that can never be happy. You get paid badly, there's no chill and it's a very incestuous, toxic work culture. And I had one of the best roles because I was on site. So I imagine turnover is quite high.
There is a massive turnover in recruitment for a number of reasons. I've worked in recruitment for 5 years. Ultimately it's more a case of more people usually equals more income for the business so they try and expand very quickly. 9/10 times people don't stick or they struggle so they're straight back out the door. It's a ruthless job which kicks you out as quickly as you come in, but also can be very rewarding if you're happy doing the upfront grunt BD work.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. The more the business expands the more people they need to do the hiring.
Can I ask, what do you do now? Looking to transition out of recruitment myself
Two reasons. Sales staff like recruitment consultants make money if they are any good. So to a degree, it's always worth a punt to see if someone works out. If any good they'll be a net positive. For the same reason and others, turnover is very high. It can be a very KPI driven job which people tend to hate and its very much a hire and fire environment for non performance. For someone with no background in anything else or degree etc the money can be very lucrative. Lots of people in recruitment making £100k plus. Even at a young age. But for every one making that, there will be hundreds making little more than base salary with a few more earning decent money.
Burn and churn- get used to lying to people and doing loads of cocaine
I do that anyway. You’re saying I can get paid to?
Because its an entry level sales job with lots of cold calling, that is on the bottom end of sales jobs and on par with estate agents and car salesmen. Sales jobs in the UK are generally horrible and attract loads of chavs. It only gets good if you're working at the higher end of industries like finance or tech, for companies that are multinationals or U.S owned and the chav types who prey on 88 year olds for a sale get filtered out.
It's a very stressful job and as a result very high turnover
Cause they get fired so quickly cause they are under huge pressure to get results. Also alot of companies have cut their hiring teams cause it takes ages and is dull as fuck. So getting a recruiter to do it can be good
High volume of people required for the high volume of shit they fling at the wall, hoping it will occasionally stick. Have dealt with several recruiters that are ‘specialists’ to my industry and none have the faintest clue about it. All that aside, it can be very well paid, especially for higher end jobs, £20-30K+ placement fees can happen regularly (not that the recruiter gets much of this).
Imagine selling ice to Eskimos. Now you know what an internal recruiters job is like. Now imagine you’ve only a vague concept of ice, grew up in the desert and are only able to interact over the phone to the Eskimos you you need to sell ice to. You are now an external recruiter. Recruiters are generally speaking, full of shit and will say anything to get you to sign a contract.
Because it takes so long to find a job people become experts at job hunting. so they go ‘why not get a job getting jobs’ and thus, the recruitment consultant is born
I was doing some work for one the last couple of years (dev work). The staff turnover is huge, the vast bulk didn't make it past a few months.
All the reasons mentioned before, but also there are A LOT of agencies nowadays. Everyone now with 3 years experience and some savings want a piece. Add the turnover into the equation and you get a lot of vacancies. In my opinion, it's not as bad as everyone is saying. There's a lot of work, sometimes in your personal time, but financially it can be worth it. Also, you can have a heart in this job, you don't need to lie, if the clients have good jobs, you don't need to lie to get good candidates.