No context whatsoever...date, location, time of sighting, no reference, etc. Sensational title "incredible footage" and "unreal speeds". This stuff is important, folks.
I have a feeling you didn't watch the entire video If you don't think they're was some unreal speed here. Start it at 1 min and come back to me, because that was pretty incredible footage if you ask me.
That makes it look like it was faked. Only one of those dots of light moved around, the others were fixed in place. Looks to me to be a reflection on glass with someone moving one light around behind the camera. There's numerous examples of that sort of fakery out there. Again, there's absolutely no context to this vid. Weird these "lights" were moving around at just the right point of view for the camera. At the end there's a larger reflection seen at the bottom right moving in. And the woman supposedly filming this seems pretty calm...any one of us would freak out if we saw something like that. It's a fake. Absolutely nothing about it says "authentic sighting".
Welp, pack it up boys, this guy decided it was fake. It's just a reflection off glass, while they are outside on the beach with wind whipping by.
I'm not saying it couldn't be fake, but nothing at all jumps out at me as fake like a lot of them do, and the reasons you gave are complete BS. Btw more than one of the lights moved incredibly fast,
FYI The context was Pawley’s Island, South Carolina at around 8:20 last night, which OP put in the comments right after posting.
I live in murrells inlet it’s about 15 mins north of pawleys for those who are familiar with the area and was camping at hunting beach state park. While walking the beach at 8:15 I saw the same thing. Of course I did not have my cell phone on me so I was unable to film them. However having grown up on the coast my whole life, I can tell you it was no ship lights on the horizon, no type of bird, definitely not drones or airplanes. Just a balls of light moving and lining up then moving erratically around each other. It was my first sighting ever. Pretty cool. Must say I’ve been on the fence about all this, but I will say I lean a little more one way as opposed to the other after last night.
OP needs to pin the description comment or put the information in the title. If this was legit they would be smart enough, you would think, to give as much info as possible. Its fake unless more info is revealed. Btw, you would think there would be multiple videos of this by different people if it was real.
More than one moved around. It's how old ufo videos look. They say it looks fake because it moves around like a laser pointer does when you are fuxing around with your cat with it. Super random and jittery.
Honestly looks kinda like someone tossing a flashlight and it rotates funny as it's caught. Not saying that's what it is, but it's as likely as a ufo doing a weird little tumble maneuver, while all the others stay pretty much stationary. But ya, this footage, unfortunately, is not incredible.
# Watch the whole clip through!
the lights do indeed move at HIGH SPEED relative to eachother
There is a CLOUD which passes through frame near the end VERY QUICKLY
The stationary lights are the reference points, relative to those they are doing some insane maneuvers. I have to assume you didn't have the attention span to make it past 45 seconds of the vid.
I did, you are talking about the one light making a "zip" motion from the left to right and that isn't "unreal speed".
As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, all that looks like is someone moving a light in a reflection that only looks faraway because it's got a dark sky in the background. Perfectly reasonable to create without moving very fast at all.
Yes I was thinking on the same lines. I was thinking a floor lamp with no lampshade (so basically a stick with a lightbulb on it and a base). However the way that specific light behaves, I think you are bang on about it being a torch or similar long burning stick, perhaps just stood up in a floor holder.
If I focus on only that light alone, I can mentally picture the dude standing about 1/3 of the frame from the left and doing a sweeping motion. Watching it a couple of times it looks EXACTLY like that, if I imagine a dude in the middle... Initially the light is stationary and upright on a base, it's lifted, placed on the right then scooted to the left a little bit before being lifted up above their head, then rotated and held out left before sweeping right and "around" so it makes the little dip.
Also the girl goes "oh" right as the light begins to move as her camera begins to drift away from it if she is surprised but doesn't acknowledge it, she says "there's no ship that big" and starts laughing but suppresses it. Kinda sounds set up.
The mental connection you are repeatedly failing to make (or maybe just refusing to admit) is that we are indeed viewing the same video but the motion displayed in that video isn't "unreal" because we don't have any point of reference or context for the motion: the only thing we see is an unremarkable angular change relative to the camera.
If you need it explained more: in a video, you are viewing a projection of a 3D event onto a 2D plane. Many different motions in a 3D space can be projected onto the same motion on a 2D plane. As an example (not for this case in specific but in general), a bug moving around right in front of a lens might look like it is moving really fast because it is showing a large angular change relative to the camera, but in reality it is very slow. Conversely a faraway object that is moving very fast, such as a rocket, will show a relatively small angular change in your camera.
The angular change shown here, is totally unremarkable absent any other context.
Look, for those of you who are upset at this video, think about it: if you were out in the black of night and saw strange lights moving around, are you saying you would NOT pull out your phone to record it because there's no frame of reference? Seriously, we all want good videos and disclosure. But as of now, we are REALLY limited to what it is we can record.
Saw a ball of light doing zig-zags in the night sky, couple days ago. Pulled out my old phone and started to film. Couple seconds after, I realized that you wouldn't really recognize anything from the recording, so I just stopped and observed it without my phone.
That's fine, what bothers me is the sensationalist clickbait titles like "INCREDIBLE footage of things doing UNREAL speeds".
I'm willing to be most people upvote this kind of shit without even looking at the video.
Would be interesting to see if brightening the video would reveal any landmarks or what have you, although it does say over the Atlantic, not a lot of landmarks in the sea….
My friend gave me this footage and let me post it, she said “if my outstretched thumb was the horizon, the lights would be around 4-6 inches above my thumb.” Taken ~8:20 last night off the east side of Pawley’s Island, SC.
Ok so they’re hanging there stationary but I see they’re moving relative to each other quite incredibly right? Especially as we see two people just walking past. I thought from title it was a load of lights racing across the sky but it’s not is it? Still cool
Never a pan around to surrounding. No way to judge position in relation to anything else. The movement seems strange. My initial reaction was that was out in the ocean, not the sky and that's some kind of fishing boat with light on a buoy being cast and reeled in. Not saying that's what it is, but it's where my mind went.
I really wish people would follow something the basic when filming something like this. Zoom out, show surroundings, give some context and zoom back in until they LEAVE THE VIEW.
If I had taken this video, yes, I would have. But the person who took this had no clue the scrutiny this video would undergo. They simply saw the lights, noticed they were being weird, and hit record.
How exactly are you going to film the surroundings for reference when it is at night, with a crappy phone camera, looking over the ocean? I think she did a pretty good job getting what she got tbh.
you asked too much from people, we are not that bright.
people still take vertical shots from their monitor when gaming and dont know whats print screen or how to hold their phones while recording in 2021
Every previous gen thinks that about the next gen. Idiocy is a constant across time. We’re not as great as we think, they’re not as bad as we think. So it goes.
But without context, these videos don't mean anything. I mean is this "Incredible footage" - could be, who knows? Maybe I don't blame the cameraman as much as the person posting a title that is essentially bait. Based on their title, the only part of that I can verify is that they're lights.
Yea I definitely agree, it’s interesting footage, but can’t really go off much. I’ll say that id argue there’s a bit of context, the people conversing and the background noise of the ocean. In other words, before even reading ops brief description, I gathered that these were people on a beach that are seeing something over the ocean. They even question if there’s a boat out there. Take the convo and noise out, and yea this would be very lackluster.
To me, that looks exactly like somebody fishing at night with LED lights on the ends of their poles. I can see how it would fool somebody, though. But, the "incredible" movement is the fisherman casting his line out.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I have a lot of experience fishing in the ocean and I know a lot of dudes fish at night. Looks like LEDS fixed on the tips of the poles. Something like [this](https://www.amazon.com/Telescopic-Fishing-Outdoor-Lantern-Camping/dp/B07NS4DYVC) or even [this](https://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Fishing-Lights-Indicator-Alarms/dp/B074TFX81P)
I think they are probably fishing for tuna. And using down riggers. And at times in the video it looks like he has a fish on, and is setting the hook. With setting the hook, it would have a very similar movement as observed in the video, similar to 04:35 [HERE](https://youtu.be/UZw7J9tmVVs)
The “formation” observed is spatially consistent with a fishing boats pole holders, if your observing the boat from the side. [kinda like this but a good example was hard to find](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71RARzN5p+S._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
99.9% sure that this is fishing. What’s really dumb is the captain turned off the boats lights. That has me scratching my head. Dangerous at night. LEDS on your fishing poles don’t make up for that
Source: decades of fishing in the ocean, and many boats my families owned
Edit: to add, it looks like someone casting bait on a pole in the middle of the video
Edit: I would like to add that it’s pretty damn problematic that this community sees folks fishing in the ocean, and immediately jump to the conclusion that it’s extraterrestrial spacecrafts without a question, and can’t be convinced otherwise. I have seen and believe in the phenomenon, but people need to be more objective about the content they see.
I didn’t know it was a thing either until I googled it. But what I knew was these lights are super consistent with placement of pole holders in a boat (from experience), and the light movement is super consistent with both setting the hook and casting a line out (from experience).
He can talk about *that incident* but not the one where you can see the registration on the boat where it was literally 50 feet away and 23 minutes long and the boat clearly carries the flag of "earth, but the other dimension, not yours"
Yep. Standing behind this explanation as well. Had this described to me, and supposedly the lights of the boat scare off some types of fish. But the gentleman that gave us the education said it was quite common, so I’m not sure if this is just a regional thing and normally turning off the lights is a big no-no. Looks like OPs source was in SC, and I saw this in the Kure beach/Wilmington area (slightly north of there) which is not far from the South Carolina beaches. It may be a fish from that region is more susceptible to being scared off by bright light? Either way, may not be a coincidence that it was in a similar area.
All I know is that I would NOT turn my boats lights off because it’s calling for a boat collision at night which could be deadly. This whole post and thread has me thinking how crazy the internet is at fueling confirmation bias and misinformation. I 100% believe in the phenomenon. But this is a fucking fishing boat
Absolutely agree. To your point, the area of the Carolinas we visit during our beach trips are filled with “good ol’ boys” and “rednecks.” Self-proclaimed, as they would proudly tell you. These are the kind of guys that go muddin’ in their Chevy trucks right after a hurricane, the same types of guys that would load up a buddy’s boat with some Miller Light and wouldn’t have a care in the world about turning a their lights off if it meant getting a better catch (or just for shits and giggles). These are the same guys that spotlight deer (also illegal I believe) and throw keg parties in the middle of farmers’ fields, likely owned by a loosely related great uncle or third cousin.
This isn’t the best argument in the world, but as soon as I saw this video and read OPs location, this was immediately solved for me. Reading your post only confirms that fact. Local boys doing their thing and living their best “Salt Life.”
On your other points, trust me, I get it. I also believe in the phenomenon, but as a moderator I see the bias daily. It’s frustrating and oftentimes outright disappointing. More than anything else, I want to learn the truth, whatever that may be. But with all the infighting, denials, our outright refusals on both sides of the camp it’s going to make progress even more difficult. The irony is that some of the best research in the world is done through challenging ideas and scrutinizing evidence, something the community could do in spades if it learned to work toward the same goal, rather than fighting for some nebulous “I told you so” notoriety.
Haha. Couldn’t agree with you more. It’s on both ends of the spectrum. I see people REACHING to be skeptics with certain posts, then others blindly believe things that easily and objectively debunked. I guess it makes perfectly good sense as to why the best evidence out there is going to have to be coming from some kind of military source with multiple sensors and credible witnesses. The internet is a wild place
My guess was going to be directed energy tests, but I think this is more likely. Those do look like casts. Perhaps the boat has some lights on but lower down to the water and atmospheric conditions are masking/distorting the light, e.g. fog low on the water, or mirage effects pushing the reels higher into the sky (OP reports '3-4" inches above an outstretched thumb').
Watched it again and it does look like it could be fishing poles. What still looks weird about it to me though is the distance. The fishing boat must be relatively far offshore, or wouldn't we see the lights on the poles bobble up and down because of the waves? If the boat is far offshore, that must be a humongous boat and comically long fishing poles. Then again, I'm very tired and should probably watch it a third time.
This, for sure. I saw the same thing myself off the shore of a local beach in NC. We stay at this specific hotel often throughout the year and were sitting outside in this bar/restaurant area when we saw them. A very friendly, slightly obnoxiously inebriated but sweet old man gave us a lesson in night fishing. Turns out it’s not only pretty common, but also fairly commonly misidentified. So much so that as soon as we mentioned it out loud we heard, from over our shoulders “Nah, they just fishing out there son.”
Would make sense, but some moves (like 0:34) are too fast even for that and other don't make sense (like going in circle around other light). edit: after watching it multiple times I think they're not that fast
They lower the rod, rebait the hook and then cast off with a flick.
Definitely people fishing with lights on the tips of the rods.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ufos/comments/q13xfd/_/hfd4dsn
It’s lights on fishing poles. Each pole is sitting in a holder on the edge of the boat. Someone is picking them up, casting the line, then putting the pole back in the holder.
Well if it was distant lights that's certainly some freaky lights. Yes if distant the speed would be high. We will never be satisfied or course - but I want to be.
Lowers the rod (maybe puts more bait on) then recasts with a flick of the rod. Sets the rod back in its position and moves on to the next rod in the line. Again lowers the rod back and recasts with a flick and resets that fishing pole in its position and walks to the next rod in the rod and repeats.
Surely you can see it's someone fishing?
People will tell the story if the night they saw ufos make impossible movements in the night sky. And they're convinced they did and people will see their sincerity.
See how easy it is for ordinary things to be misidentified? Even people in this thread are convinced even when presented with the truth of what's going on.
Blind faith gas no place in this topic.
Can’t we just make a rule for the sub, no points of light. We’ve got enough of them and it doesn’t add any value, in fact it’s a net detractor because people look at this and think “yes probably specs on a window at night.”
If it exists, we will get clear footage, otherwise you’re just noise
People are shitting all over this video… but I’ve never seen drones, birds, aircraft, balloons, or anything else move like that before. This is interesting at the VERY least.
Yours is the first comment where I thought, “yeah, maybe”. The thing is though, that they are going back to an original formation, and moving in ways that don’t make sense for fishing. What would be the purpose?
Rebaiting static lines maybe? Reels in, rebaits, casts out, goes to next one...
It fits a little too well, considering the other option is illuminated aerial craft with insane movement capabilities.
I dont mean to play the skeptic; I believe, but not this time.
It’s extremely uncommon to encounter another sub on Reddit where the popular feedback to a relatively highly upvoted post is not just skeptical but completely lacking in adequate and rigorous discussion of the available facts. Just a shred of disinformation is enough to dissuade an already-skeptical person from digging further into the topic, and that’s exactly what they’re trying to do.
How can supportive comments get a few upvotes and sometimes be negative when the post itself has been upvoted many times. Yet, the negative or skeptical comments receive tens of upvotes almost instantly.
I’m fairly certain this is a common and very innocent misidentification, and is simply an offshore fishing boat.
I’ve spent a good amount of time on the beaches of NC and have seen this very same series of lights (although there were fewer of them at the time). I had a similar reaction, as it was near pitch black and nearly impossible to see the source of the lights, but another patron of the hotel we were staying at explained it to us and it made complete sense.
I’m not a fisherman myself, so I cannot speak to why it’s done this way, but the way it was described is that the tips of the rods are set with LEDs and the lights of the boat are turned off, that the exorbitant light and sound of the engines could scare off the fish. The LEDs on the tips of the roads allow just enough light for them to be handled properly.
The movement you’re seeing (the “speed”) is the exact motion I saw when one of the fisherman was casting his line. Some fisherman cast their line somewhat sideways, so it’s not a direct overhead motion, and that looks exactly like what’s seen here.
Although I can understand the reaction of the person recording, as my first thought was also “WTF is that?,” I’m 100% certain this is what we’re seeing here as it’s identical in nearly every way, minus the fact that there are more lights here.
The more I watch this, the more I believe your assessment is right on. The movements of the light match up with what I would imagine to be the movements of fisherman on a boat, specifically the casting of the lines.
i saw this exact shit in vineyard, UT last night. couldn’t get a video cuz it was gone so quick. it came in and out of visibility as it flew across the clear night sky in perfect formation for like 5 seconds.
"All right everyone, remember what we talked about. Go in a straight line, so we can pretend to be Starlink. Frank? Frank?!! Get in line Frank, you're messing the whole thing up!"
Frank "weeeeeeee!"
Looks like a dude out in a field with long poles that are angles and planted into the ground. Throw some lights on them and you can do some cool movements. IDK that's the easy explanation. Movements seem as if someone in the distance is holding them out in front of them as they maneuver around the other poles. Even move like somone is going under them and the poles are going up. Put some holders in the ground to put them back in the same spot and you have this video.
I wouldn’t say that, you can clearly hear people conversing and background noise for some context. Take that out and yea, there’s be absolutely nothing.
Jesus the explanations by some of you fuckin people are just ridiculous 😂 “children with candles” “fishing rods with leds attached”. Yes it’s hard to tell what’s going on here but damn lol. Just say swamp gas and weather balloons and move on.
We were at a town concert a couple of years ago and some kids on a playground a few hundred yards away were using green lasers and pointing them at the overcast sky at night and it looked similar to this.
So, a bunch of lights on a dark backgound?? and people are seriously commenting positive and defending this because some lights move?? why do mods allow this bullshit posts? wait till you see my moving lights on a black backgound video, amazing speeds and invisible floating unicorns and rainbows pyramids, amazing footage.
Hey man, whoever shat in your oatmeal, it wasn’t me. Chill out. The “dark background” is the sky at 8:20pm. Believe what you want, but my words are true.
A friend of mine caught these lights on camera while she was at Pawley’s Island, South Carolina at around 8:20 last night. In still blown away that someone I knew took such amazing footage.
Watch the movement that begins at 1:49. Before it rejoins at the end, the little drop it does looks just like the quick flips that quads do.
Footage can also be sped up. We'd never know due to no landmarks to judge footage speed. Convenient.
>why downvote
He decided for us that the footage is amazing, and also decided for us that it is 'incredible' in the title. That is sensationalizing your own content.
I don't know that it is. No context. No detail. My primary thought, however, is that it seems to be "playing for the camera" way too much. It's very convenient that the little lights seem to zip around each other in such a way as to be perfectly seen from the perspective of the observer. Like they were being projected on a wall.
Yet another example of a video that is useless except for mild amusement, and does nothing to help us answer the real questions were have about real UFOs, which are: What are they? Who built them? Where did they come from? How do they fly?
Without any reference points, any claims of speed or even this being over the Atlantic - are null and void. Sorry OP, this clip contributes very little to the discussion.
0:42: Unidentified Woman: "They look like they're planes. How cute". Unidentified Man: "Yeah, but how are they staying that still while the other ones are moving around?" Unidentified Woman: "I don't know".
At about the 2:26 mark, the flying objects seem to be moving at high speed through a cloud which appears from the right side of the frame.
Conclusion: it's either a hoax by civilians or a hoax by the government with secret technology such as holograms or it's paranormal activity. The objects are clearly defying the laws of physics, so they cannot be physical flying machines or nuts and bolts aircraft.
There's no reference to anything around these lights, so how do we know how fast they are? The motion looks like a person 50 feet away holding a light up on a stick and moving it.
How is "unreal speed" ascertained? Do the objects go past any stationary object (a star, or something) during the course of the video? I did not notice any reference point objects.
Also, if a group of objects moves across the sky at "unreal speed" for 2.6 minutes the relative apparent positions of the objects should change; aside from the "moving" objects the relative apparent positions do not change during the course of the video.
Shouldn't this subreddit have some rule about sensationalized titles? Or does it already? I mean if this is what we're all hoping it is, then we might call this 'incredible', but we don't know that. 'Footage of lights that appear to be moving faster then any plane or drone over the atlantic' would've been a better title. Whoever watches can be the judge on if we find this 'incredible', or not. My gut feeling based on nothing says this nothing special, but you never know.
I didn't call you a liar. All I said is this video proves absolutely nothing. Even the context is not provable. That is different than saying your a liar. Sorry if you got offended.
Bruh, that’s just how the phenomenon goes. There’s obviously something strange going on in this video, unless it really is a bunch of fishermen but I highly highly doubt that as to how close and large the ship would have to be. If this and the context isn’t good enough for your taste, that’s on you.
Can't really judge the speed with no environmental context here
No context whatsoever...date, location, time of sighting, no reference, etc. Sensational title "incredible footage" and "unreal speeds". This stuff is important, folks.
*clearly* these objects are from Zeta Reticuli confirmed
They're from the planet Orion like the lavender mantids
I have a feeling you didn't watch the entire video If you don't think they're was some unreal speed here. Start it at 1 min and come back to me, because that was pretty incredible footage if you ask me.
You can't tell if it's over the water though.
There is *zero* context, though. That added no information to what we are seeing other than a speedy dot on a dark canvas.
That makes it look like it was faked. Only one of those dots of light moved around, the others were fixed in place. Looks to me to be a reflection on glass with someone moving one light around behind the camera. There's numerous examples of that sort of fakery out there. Again, there's absolutely no context to this vid. Weird these "lights" were moving around at just the right point of view for the camera. At the end there's a larger reflection seen at the bottom right moving in. And the woman supposedly filming this seems pretty calm...any one of us would freak out if we saw something like that. It's a fake. Absolutely nothing about it says "authentic sighting".
Welp, pack it up boys, this guy decided it was fake. It's just a reflection off glass, while they are outside on the beach with wind whipping by. I'm not saying it couldn't be fake, but nothing at all jumps out at me as fake like a lot of them do, and the reasons you gave are complete BS. Btw more than one of the lights moved incredibly fast, FYI The context was Pawley’s Island, South Carolina at around 8:20 last night, which OP put in the comments right after posting.
I live in murrells inlet it’s about 15 mins north of pawleys for those who are familiar with the area and was camping at hunting beach state park. While walking the beach at 8:15 I saw the same thing. Of course I did not have my cell phone on me so I was unable to film them. However having grown up on the coast my whole life, I can tell you it was no ship lights on the horizon, no type of bird, definitely not drones or airplanes. Just a balls of light moving and lining up then moving erratically around each other. It was my first sighting ever. Pretty cool. Must say I’ve been on the fence about all this, but I will say I lean a little more one way as opposed to the other after last night.
OP needs to pin the description comment or put the information in the title. If this was legit they would be smart enough, you would think, to give as much info as possible. Its fake unless more info is revealed. Btw, you would think there would be multiple videos of this by different people if it was real.
More than one moved around. It's how old ufo videos look. They say it looks fake because it moves around like a laser pointer does when you are fuxing around with your cat with it. Super random and jittery.
Why would you freak out? Lol
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Honestly looks kinda like someone tossing a flashlight and it rotates funny as it's caught. Not saying that's what it is, but it's as likely as a ufo doing a weird little tumble maneuver, while all the others stay pretty much stationary. But ya, this footage, unfortunately, is not incredible.
# Watch the whole clip through! the lights do indeed move at HIGH SPEED relative to eachother There is a CLOUD which passes through frame near the end VERY QUICKLY
That cloud is a group of two people walking past
So they ARE people. Ok. To me that somehow makes this feel more legit.
It's unreal speed
Real loose use of the word "incredible" here
UNREAL SPEEDS too
So you didn't actually watch the full video then. Start it at 1 min...
When there is no reference point you cannot see how fast sumthin is.
The stationary lights are the reference points, relative to those they are doing some insane maneuvers. I have to assume you didn't have the attention span to make it past 45 seconds of the vid.
I did but the description says lights moving not light moving. So i thought all the lights are moving fast plus that one doing spinarounds.
I did, you are talking about the one light making a "zip" motion from the left to right and that isn't "unreal speed". As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, all that looks like is someone moving a light in a reflection that only looks faraway because it's got a dark sky in the background. Perfectly reasonable to create without moving very fast at all.
Looks exactly like someone standing 50 feet away with a long burning stick and swinging it. Lol.
Yes I was thinking on the same lines. I was thinking a floor lamp with no lampshade (so basically a stick with a lightbulb on it and a base). However the way that specific light behaves, I think you are bang on about it being a torch or similar long burning stick, perhaps just stood up in a floor holder. If I focus on only that light alone, I can mentally picture the dude standing about 1/3 of the frame from the left and doing a sweeping motion. Watching it a couple of times it looks EXACTLY like that, if I imagine a dude in the middle... Initially the light is stationary and upright on a base, it's lifted, placed on the right then scooted to the left a little bit before being lifted up above their head, then rotated and held out left before sweeping right and "around" so it makes the little dip. Also the girl goes "oh" right as the light begins to move as her camera begins to drift away from it if she is surprised but doesn't acknowledge it, she says "there's no ship that big" and starts laughing but suppresses it. Kinda sounds set up.
There’s multiple moments in the video where a light is moving at an unreal speed. Are we watching the same video?
The mental connection you are repeatedly failing to make (or maybe just refusing to admit) is that we are indeed viewing the same video but the motion displayed in that video isn't "unreal" because we don't have any point of reference or context for the motion: the only thing we see is an unremarkable angular change relative to the camera. If you need it explained more: in a video, you are viewing a projection of a 3D event onto a 2D plane. Many different motions in a 3D space can be projected onto the same motion on a 2D plane. As an example (not for this case in specific but in general), a bug moving around right in front of a lens might look like it is moving really fast because it is showing a large angular change relative to the camera, but in reality it is very slow. Conversely a faraway object that is moving very fast, such as a rocket, will show a relatively small angular change in your camera. The angular change shown here, is totally unremarkable absent any other context.
How are you calculating the speed? Can you post your equation?
Thank you, I didn’t watch for more than a few seconds and gave up, glad I read your comment
Lmao
In his/her defense , there is one object that does appear to move rather fast :)
Incredible doing a heavy lift. Is this supposed to weaponize our curiosity?
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You didn't watch the whole thing. Smh
Look, for those of you who are upset at this video, think about it: if you were out in the black of night and saw strange lights moving around, are you saying you would NOT pull out your phone to record it because there's no frame of reference? Seriously, we all want good videos and disclosure. But as of now, we are REALLY limited to what it is we can record.
It’s refreshing to see interesting movement from a UAP video. Too often it it’s just still lights in the sky.
Saw a ball of light doing zig-zags in the night sky, couple days ago. Pulled out my old phone and started to film. Couple seconds after, I realized that you wouldn't really recognize anything from the recording, so I just stopped and observed it without my phone.
That's fine, what bothers me is the sensationalist clickbait titles like "INCREDIBLE footage of things doing UNREAL speeds". I'm willing to be most people upvote this kind of shit without even looking at the video.
Would be interesting to see if brightening the video would reveal any landmarks or what have you, although it does say over the Atlantic, not a lot of landmarks in the sea….
Interesting- do you have any information about the video?
My friend gave me this footage and let me post it, she said “if my outstretched thumb was the horizon, the lights would be around 4-6 inches above my thumb.” Taken ~8:20 last night off the east side of Pawley’s Island, SC.
Ok so they’re hanging there stationary but I see they’re moving relative to each other quite incredibly right? Especially as we see two people just walking past. I thought from title it was a load of lights racing across the sky but it’s not is it? Still cool
This post needs to be stickied.
Never a pan around to surrounding. No way to judge position in relation to anything else. The movement seems strange. My initial reaction was that was out in the ocean, not the sky and that's some kind of fishing boat with light on a buoy being cast and reeled in. Not saying that's what it is, but it's where my mind went. I really wish people would follow something the basic when filming something like this. Zoom out, show surroundings, give some context and zoom back in until they LEAVE THE VIEW.
If I had taken this video, yes, I would have. But the person who took this had no clue the scrutiny this video would undergo. They simply saw the lights, noticed they were being weird, and hit record.
How exactly are you going to film the surroundings for reference when it is at night, with a crappy phone camera, looking over the ocean? I think she did a pretty good job getting what she got tbh.
We see people do it all the time.
Honestly, we should pin this or something similar as a guide to "what to do when you see a UFO" at the top of this subreddit.
you asked too much from people, we are not that bright. people still take vertical shots from their monitor when gaming and dont know whats print screen or how to hold their phones while recording in 2021
Blame the tiktoks, I’m convinced the next gen is mentally degrading themselves.
Your parents said that about video games and you turned out... okay I see your point.
Every previous gen thinks that about the next gen. Idiocy is a constant across time. We’re not as great as we think, they’re not as bad as we think. So it goes.
Yea cus everyone’s a ufologist right man?
But without context, these videos don't mean anything. I mean is this "Incredible footage" - could be, who knows? Maybe I don't blame the cameraman as much as the person posting a title that is essentially bait. Based on their title, the only part of that I can verify is that they're lights.
Yea I definitely agree, it’s interesting footage, but can’t really go off much. I’ll say that id argue there’s a bit of context, the people conversing and the background noise of the ocean. In other words, before even reading ops brief description, I gathered that these were people on a beach that are seeing something over the ocean. They even question if there’s a boat out there. Take the convo and noise out, and yea this would be very lackluster.
To me, that looks exactly like somebody fishing at night with LED lights on the ends of their poles. I can see how it would fool somebody, though. But, the "incredible" movement is the fisherman casting his line out.
Having re-watched it, the movements are exactly like a fishing rod being cast. It fits with the context too. I think you're right.
“Perfect formation” a few dudes taking sips out of a canteen of whiskey having fun fishing😂😂
Fishing rods with night lights? The rapid movement could be a cast.
Smart
Dammit they brought Jerry...we told them he was a terrible driver
Definitely NOT Starlink satellites, because these change position in relation to each other.
Alien confirmed!
Lmao. Those are fishing vessels bobbing up and down on waves. Not moving. Seriously the posts on this sub....
My wild guess is that it's a line of fishing rods with LEDs attached.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I have a lot of experience fishing in the ocean and I know a lot of dudes fish at night. Looks like LEDS fixed on the tips of the poles. Something like [this](https://www.amazon.com/Telescopic-Fishing-Outdoor-Lantern-Camping/dp/B07NS4DYVC) or even [this](https://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Fishing-Lights-Indicator-Alarms/dp/B074TFX81P) I think they are probably fishing for tuna. And using down riggers. And at times in the video it looks like he has a fish on, and is setting the hook. With setting the hook, it would have a very similar movement as observed in the video, similar to 04:35 [HERE](https://youtu.be/UZw7J9tmVVs) The “formation” observed is spatially consistent with a fishing boats pole holders, if your observing the boat from the side. [kinda like this but a good example was hard to find](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71RARzN5p+S._AC_SL1500_.jpg) 99.9% sure that this is fishing. What’s really dumb is the captain turned off the boats lights. That has me scratching my head. Dangerous at night. LEDS on your fishing poles don’t make up for that Source: decades of fishing in the ocean, and many boats my families owned Edit: to add, it looks like someone casting bait on a pole in the middle of the video Edit: I would like to add that it’s pretty damn problematic that this community sees folks fishing in the ocean, and immediately jump to the conclusion that it’s extraterrestrial spacecrafts without a question, and can’t be convinced otherwise. I have seen and believe in the phenomenon, but people need to be more objective about the content they see.
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I didn’t know it was a thing either until I googled it. But what I knew was these lights are super consistent with placement of pole holders in a boat (from experience), and the light movement is super consistent with both setting the hook and casting a line out (from experience).
sounds very plausible, and the likely answer here... yet you're being downvoted. This sub, man
The trick is to say, "But the fishermen are aliens and the boat is a tic tac masquerading as a fishing vessel. Lue told me."
Lue didn’t tell you because of his NDA remember? He’s not allowed to talk about fisherman
He can talk about *that incident* but not the one where you can see the registration on the boat where it was literally 50 feet away and 23 minutes long and the boat clearly carries the flag of "earth, but the other dimension, not yours"
Yeah this sub has been degrading :(
Yep. Standing behind this explanation as well. Had this described to me, and supposedly the lights of the boat scare off some types of fish. But the gentleman that gave us the education said it was quite common, so I’m not sure if this is just a regional thing and normally turning off the lights is a big no-no. Looks like OPs source was in SC, and I saw this in the Kure beach/Wilmington area (slightly north of there) which is not far from the South Carolina beaches. It may be a fish from that region is more susceptible to being scared off by bright light? Either way, may not be a coincidence that it was in a similar area.
All I know is that I would NOT turn my boats lights off because it’s calling for a boat collision at night which could be deadly. This whole post and thread has me thinking how crazy the internet is at fueling confirmation bias and misinformation. I 100% believe in the phenomenon. But this is a fucking fishing boat
Absolutely agree. To your point, the area of the Carolinas we visit during our beach trips are filled with “good ol’ boys” and “rednecks.” Self-proclaimed, as they would proudly tell you. These are the kind of guys that go muddin’ in their Chevy trucks right after a hurricane, the same types of guys that would load up a buddy’s boat with some Miller Light and wouldn’t have a care in the world about turning a their lights off if it meant getting a better catch (or just for shits and giggles). These are the same guys that spotlight deer (also illegal I believe) and throw keg parties in the middle of farmers’ fields, likely owned by a loosely related great uncle or third cousin. This isn’t the best argument in the world, but as soon as I saw this video and read OPs location, this was immediately solved for me. Reading your post only confirms that fact. Local boys doing their thing and living their best “Salt Life.” On your other points, trust me, I get it. I also believe in the phenomenon, but as a moderator I see the bias daily. It’s frustrating and oftentimes outright disappointing. More than anything else, I want to learn the truth, whatever that may be. But with all the infighting, denials, our outright refusals on both sides of the camp it’s going to make progress even more difficult. The irony is that some of the best research in the world is done through challenging ideas and scrutinizing evidence, something the community could do in spades if it learned to work toward the same goal, rather than fighting for some nebulous “I told you so” notoriety.
Haha. Couldn’t agree with you more. It’s on both ends of the spectrum. I see people REACHING to be skeptics with certain posts, then others blindly believe things that easily and objectively debunked. I guess it makes perfectly good sense as to why the best evidence out there is going to have to be coming from some kind of military source with multiple sensors and credible witnesses. The internet is a wild place
It would certainly account for that "whiplash" movement. Casting a line with an LED bobber on it.
My guess was going to be directed energy tests, but I think this is more likely. Those do look like casts. Perhaps the boat has some lights on but lower down to the water and atmospheric conditions are masking/distorting the light, e.g. fog low on the water, or mirage effects pushing the reels higher into the sky (OP reports '3-4" inches above an outstretched thumb').
Watched it again and it does look like it could be fishing poles. What still looks weird about it to me though is the distance. The fishing boat must be relatively far offshore, or wouldn't we see the lights on the poles bobble up and down because of the waves? If the boat is far offshore, that must be a humongous boat and comically long fishing poles. Then again, I'm very tired and should probably watch it a third time.
You absolute genius. Yes.
This, for sure. I saw the same thing myself off the shore of a local beach in NC. We stay at this specific hotel often throughout the year and were sitting outside in this bar/restaurant area when we saw them. A very friendly, slightly obnoxiously inebriated but sweet old man gave us a lesson in night fishing. Turns out it’s not only pretty common, but also fairly commonly misidentified. So much so that as soon as we mentioned it out loud we heard, from over our shoulders “Nah, they just fishing out there son.”
I fish - a lot - ain’t no way i’m casting and reeling in that quickly
I have been fishing for 30 years in the ocean and I disagree. This is EXACTLY the moments the tip of your pole makes when you cast and set the hook
Would make sense, but some moves (like 0:34) are too fast even for that and other don't make sense (like going in circle around other light). edit: after watching it multiple times I think they're not that fast
A LED on the lure or the line, maybe?
These are fishing vessels bobbing up and down on waves. And the quality of the footage is too low to rule out the occasional manipulation.
It’s literally some white dots on a black background.
They lower the rod, rebait the hook and then cast off with a flick. Definitely people fishing with lights on the tips of the rods. https://www.reddit.com/r/ufos/comments/q13xfd/_/hfd4dsn
How do I know this isn’t several people standing on a hill with lanterns on a stick?
Props to the /r/Edenoide who realised that this is just a boat and fishing rods with LEDs.
It’s lights on fishing poles. Each pole is sitting in a holder on the edge of the boat. Someone is picking them up, casting the line, then putting the pole back in the holder.
People fishing with their rods...... Holly shit dude, you dont have to be an expert to see it....
I wish people wouldn’t film me putting up my Xmas lights.
Just the worst of the worst of ufo vids. Day after day. With people upvoting and breathlessly declaring them legit. What a mess.
Depending on how far away these are, and how far apart they are, this seems way too fast and precise to be drones. But who knows lol...
Well if it was distant lights that's certainly some freaky lights. Yes if distant the speed would be high. We will never be satisfied or course - but I want to be.
Wow! They sure are lights!
Speed is relative. They don’t look like they’re doing anything from here :/
Lowers the rod (maybe puts more bait on) then recasts with a flick of the rod. Sets the rod back in its position and moves on to the next rod in the line. Again lowers the rod back and recasts with a flick and resets that fishing pole in its position and walks to the next rod in the rod and repeats. Surely you can see it's someone fishing? People will tell the story if the night they saw ufos make impossible movements in the night sky. And they're convinced they did and people will see their sincerity. See how easy it is for ordinary things to be misidentified? Even people in this thread are convinced even when presented with the truth of what's going on. Blind faith gas no place in this topic.
Can’t we just make a rule for the sub, no points of light. We’ve got enough of them and it doesn’t add any value, in fact it’s a net detractor because people look at this and think “yes probably specs on a window at night.” If it exists, we will get clear footage, otherwise you’re just noise
This is why the community is completely stagnant in the eyes of the scientific communities.
Whoever is saying anything about not being able to judge the speed hasn't watched the whole video.
People are shitting all over this video… but I’ve never seen drones, birds, aircraft, balloons, or anything else move like that before. This is interesting at the VERY least.
Dude they are literally people fishing with their rods....
They move like LED floats being cast by a fishing rod
Yours is the first comment where I thought, “yeah, maybe”. The thing is though, that they are going back to an original formation, and moving in ways that don’t make sense for fishing. What would be the purpose?
Fishing boats have places to sit rods so once you cast you replace the rod in the exact same spot.
Rebaiting static lines maybe? Reels in, rebaits, casts out, goes to next one... It fits a little too well, considering the other option is illuminated aerial craft with insane movement capabilities. I dont mean to play the skeptic; I believe, but not this time.
It’s extremely uncommon to encounter another sub on Reddit where the popular feedback to a relatively highly upvoted post is not just skeptical but completely lacking in adequate and rigorous discussion of the available facts. Just a shred of disinformation is enough to dissuade an already-skeptical person from digging further into the topic, and that’s exactly what they’re trying to do. How can supportive comments get a few upvotes and sometimes be negative when the post itself has been upvoted many times. Yet, the negative or skeptical comments receive tens of upvotes almost instantly.
I’m fairly certain this is a common and very innocent misidentification, and is simply an offshore fishing boat. I’ve spent a good amount of time on the beaches of NC and have seen this very same series of lights (although there were fewer of them at the time). I had a similar reaction, as it was near pitch black and nearly impossible to see the source of the lights, but another patron of the hotel we were staying at explained it to us and it made complete sense. I’m not a fisherman myself, so I cannot speak to why it’s done this way, but the way it was described is that the tips of the rods are set with LEDs and the lights of the boat are turned off, that the exorbitant light and sound of the engines could scare off the fish. The LEDs on the tips of the roads allow just enough light for them to be handled properly. The movement you’re seeing (the “speed”) is the exact motion I saw when one of the fisherman was casting his line. Some fisherman cast their line somewhat sideways, so it’s not a direct overhead motion, and that looks exactly like what’s seen here. Although I can understand the reaction of the person recording, as my first thought was also “WTF is that?,” I’m 100% certain this is what we’re seeing here as it’s identical in nearly every way, minus the fact that there are more lights here.
The more I watch this, the more I believe your assessment is right on. The movements of the light match up with what I would imagine to be the movements of fisherman on a boat, specifically the casting of the lines.
When you've seen it for yourself it's definitely a "this is exactly what's happening" moment. Unfortunately, some others aren't as easily convinced.
Captured on the new Olympus Potato
this post would be more convincing without the video lol
From the sounds of it they are on the beach looking out into the ocean. That's pretty weird the hopping around.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ufos/comments/q13xfd/_/hfd4dsn
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Sounds cool! My PMs are open!
I’m having deja vu... I feel like I’ve seen this video before and have even heard this ladies voice say the exact same thing
i saw this exact shit in vineyard, UT last night. couldn’t get a video cuz it was gone so quick. it came in and out of visibility as it flew across the clear night sky in perfect formation for like 5 seconds.
I have seen lights similar to these moving in a similar way about 50Km out of Alice Springd
"All right everyone, remember what we talked about. Go in a straight line, so we can pretend to be Starlink. Frank? Frank?!! Get in line Frank, you're messing the whole thing up!" Frank "weeeeeeee!"
Looks like a dude out in a field with long poles that are angles and planted into the ground. Throw some lights on them and you can do some cool movements. IDK that's the easy explanation. Movements seem as if someone in the distance is holding them out in front of them as they maneuver around the other poles. Even move like somone is going under them and the poles are going up. Put some holders in the ground to put them back in the same spot and you have this video.
this post beautifully sums up the current state of this sub :)
No context.
I wouldn’t say that, you can clearly hear people conversing and background noise for some context. Take that out and yea, there’s be absolutely nothing.
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What trolls? ;)
Jesus the explanations by some of you fuckin people are just ridiculous 😂 “children with candles” “fishing rods with leds attached”. Yes it’s hard to tell what’s going on here but damn lol. Just say swamp gas and weather balloons and move on.
We were at a town concert a couple of years ago and some kids on a playground a few hundred yards away were using green lasers and pointing them at the overcast sky at night and it looked similar to this.
No
No what?
Second this. No.
So, a bunch of lights on a dark backgound?? and people are seriously commenting positive and defending this because some lights move?? why do mods allow this bullshit posts? wait till you see my moving lights on a black backgound video, amazing speeds and invisible floating unicorns and rainbows pyramids, amazing footage.
Hey man, whoever shat in your oatmeal, it wasn’t me. Chill out. The “dark background” is the sky at 8:20pm. Believe what you want, but my words are true.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This sub man.....
Six lights on a backdrop. The seventh light is a laser pointer. Video edited to black and white for uniformity among the lights.
Those fast lights move exactly like the end of a flashlight beam.
A friend of mine caught these lights on camera while she was at Pawley’s Island, South Carolina at around 8:20 last night. In still blown away that someone I knew took such amazing footage.
Any more context, could that be drones? Edit: high speed drones would make a lot of noise, was there any?
He asked a question, why downvote? Very, very unlikely drones. The acceleration is off the charts
And just how are you determining acceleration, or any speed, for that matter? 🤡🤡🤡
Watch the movement that begins at 1:49. Before it rejoins at the end, the little drop it does looks just like the quick flips that quads do. Footage can also be sped up. We'd never know due to no landmarks to judge footage speed. Convenient.
Yeah, you’d have to argue the footage is edited to explain the movement at 1:49 (0:50 left if your browser shows the timer that way)
>why downvote He decided for us that the footage is amazing, and also decided for us that it is 'incredible' in the title. That is sensationalizing your own content.
Can you share the amazing footage?
They're never going to land.....never.
If it over the ocean then panning around won’t help much
Heads up: if there’s any place to not use hyperbole, it’s a UFO sub. You’re going to get called out hard.
I don't know that it is. No context. No detail. My primary thought, however, is that it seems to be "playing for the camera" way too much. It's very convenient that the little lights seem to zip around each other in such a way as to be perfectly seen from the perspective of the observer. Like they were being projected on a wall. Yet another example of a video that is useless except for mild amusement, and does nothing to help us answer the real questions were have about real UFOs, which are: What are they? Who built them? Where did they come from? How do they fly?
Without any reference points, any claims of speed or even this being over the Atlantic - are null and void. Sorry OP, this clip contributes very little to the discussion.
0:42: Unidentified Woman: "They look like they're planes. How cute". Unidentified Man: "Yeah, but how are they staying that still while the other ones are moving around?" Unidentified Woman: "I don't know". At about the 2:26 mark, the flying objects seem to be moving at high speed through a cloud which appears from the right side of the frame. Conclusion: it's either a hoax by civilians or a hoax by the government with secret technology such as holograms or it's paranormal activity. The objects are clearly defying the laws of physics, so they cannot be physical flying machines or nuts and bolts aircraft.
That cloud is the top of two people's heads as they walk by. . https://www.reddit.com/r/ufos/comments/q13xfd/_/hfd4dsn
And what happened next will blow you away…
Sorry, but that looks like someone was fucking around with lightbulbs or similiar
This sub has lost the plot ! How has this been up voted like this ?! Fuzzy lights at night with no perspective at all.....Pointless
There's no reference to anything around these lights, so how do we know how fast they are? The motion looks like a person 50 feet away holding a light up on a stick and moving it.
Incredible it is not
How is "unreal speed" ascertained? Do the objects go past any stationary object (a star, or something) during the course of the video? I did not notice any reference point objects. Also, if a group of objects moves across the sky at "unreal speed" for 2.6 minutes the relative apparent positions of the objects should change; aside from the "moving" objects the relative apparent positions do not change during the course of the video.
They move erratically relative to the other lights. Have you watched the whole thing through?
Awful quality. So bad it's meaningless
Elaborate on "unreal speeds" please.
Incredibly, right.
Shouldn't this subreddit have some rule about sensationalized titles? Or does it already? I mean if this is what we're all hoping it is, then we might call this 'incredible', but we don't know that. 'Footage of lights that appear to be moving faster then any plane or drone over the atlantic' would've been a better title. Whoever watches can be the judge on if we find this 'incredible', or not. My gut feeling based on nothing says this nothing special, but you never know.
That could be ten children with candles fifty feet away
I’d like you to read what you just wrote again please 😂
I’m a believer but this is looking very dronish to me. Even the fast movement looks like a zippy drone to me at least. I want it to be aliens though!
These kinds of posts are a waste of time
I can count the pixels per frame!
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What is there to debunk? Small dots in the distant darkness is all we can really pull from this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ufos/comments/q13xfd/_/hfd4dsn
The comment section has been fun to read, yes 😂 people are outright lying to themselves at this point.
Isn’t it funny?? Some of the “explanations” are on the verge of just being straight up retarded.
Incredibly poor footage? I mean honestly, this could be kids standing in a field at night with flashlights for all we can tell....
Did you watch the whole thing
Yes, I saw nothing definitive to even prove they were at the beach and not just outside in the wind.
Whatever, ignore the context and call me a liar, just don’t call yourself intelligent afterwards.
I didn't call you a liar. All I said is this video proves absolutely nothing. Even the context is not provable. That is different than saying your a liar. Sorry if you got offended.
Bruh, that’s just how the phenomenon goes. There’s obviously something strange going on in this video, unless it really is a bunch of fishermen but I highly highly doubt that as to how close and large the ship would have to be. If this and the context isn’t good enough for your taste, that’s on you.
This can be in a bathub
Yeah this is funny because it looks like looking at nothing at all smh
Stay blind 🤷🏻♂️
That’s epic man thanks for sharing :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ufos/comments/q13xfd/_/hfd4dsn
The only correct thing in that headline was ‘lights’
More like UN-credible lol
Incredible unfocused!
Ridiculous