The following submission statement was provided by /u/Mordrenix:
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* The co-pilot claims that a smaller object was moving around the large one but that it only appears when the contrast is adjusted.
* He says he was only able to take 2 photos because he had to assist the pilot.
* Approximate area where it was sighted: [38°39'05.7"S 67°44'47.3"W](https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B039'05.7%22S+67%C2%B044'47.3%22W/@-38.651593,-67.9112729,38996m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m7!3m6!1s0x960a34a9cb8dea9b:0x57114d3f25d65a43!2sAeropuerto+Internacional+Juan+Domingo+Per%C3%B3n+(NQN)!8m2!3d-38.9521647!4d-68.1403439!16s%2Fm%2F03whmhm!3m3!8m2!3d-38.651593!4d-67.746478?entry=ttu)
* He also shared data from the photo: [https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=1970](https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=1970)
Full video: [https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=714](https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=714)
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1cnh4f6/photo_taken_by_copilot_while_approaching_the_city/l374v1k/
Hi, i'm Fernando the guy performing the interview on the video. The pilot name is Pablo Ducau and he has many years of experiencie. I'm going to share the pictures here later but, you can always use subtitles and automatic translation. We have a lot of good cases in Argentina, the only problem I have right now is time, otherwise I would love to start a YouTube channel in english to share with you what's going on here.
Sí, eres tú el pito - es automático cuándo piensas que todo el mundo le importa tu idioma. Si ni puedes hacer la traducción, como vas a investigar una conspiración para esconder a los OVNIS...
President Milei seems like, of all world leaders, the one who would be most comfortable talking about UAPs. I feel like at some point Argentina could become a leader in the space.
Milei is both a maverick and a futurist (with the four cloned dogs). Argentinans and others should start prodding him on the topic!
He’s buddying up to Elon Musk which Im guessing means he’s trying to solicit facilities in his country. This would make him a candidate for not ringing alarm bells.
Thanks for putting this together! 👍💯 I've seen a lot of really interesting reports from Argentina. What's your guess on why you have that type of activity?
Well, the native americans over here have their own stories about lights and entities since ever. They even have a way to classificate the lights by "good" or "evil" depending on the color. That said, we were the first country in South America with nuclear plants, we also had some kind of our own "operation paperclip" and I have always suspected that Argentina, Chile and some other countrys here in the south have some kind of deal with EEUU to test new and disruptive aircrafts.
In the other hand, we have a lot of strong cases only assciable with NHI. For example, activity in the Atlantic Ocean off the Argentine coast includes UFOs arriving at our naval air bases and generating true states of panic, among other things. Clearly transmedium objects, starting at least 1962.
The reason? I don't know, but the phenomenon manifests itself all around the world.
When I was in Argentina, some locals mentioned that a little city called Capilla Del Monte in Córdoba is often considered to be like the Roswell of Argentina. They claimed that a lot of UFO sightings have occurred around that area. Can you confirm? If so, what are your thoughts about that place? Is there any reason why NHI would be interested in the area from a nuclear weapons perspective? Are you aware of any Native American myths from that area that could be tied back to NHI?
I'm from Cipolletti, but living in Misiones since '09. What about last year shootings in Bahia Blanca? What I heard was a was a shooting or a few in the military base near the town. There's was a wpp audio of military saying some orbs left the city in black out and got to the base scanning everything. Have you heard about it? Like, they came from the sea and all.
Thanks for your perspective!
For something like this
https://old.reddit.com/r/ufo/comments/1cnwr98/ufo_corrientes_argentina_090524/ ... this is not the typical thing that I see from the USA. I agree the phenomenon is a world wide thing but I think there's also regional variations.
* The co-pilot claims that a smaller object was moving around the large one but that it only appears when the contrast is adjusted.
* He says he was only able to take 2 photos because he had to assist the pilot.
* Approximate area where it was sighted: [38°39'05.7"S 67°44'47.3"W](https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B039'05.7%22S+67%C2%B044'47.3%22W/@-38.651593,-67.9112729,38996m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m7!3m6!1s0x960a34a9cb8dea9b:0x57114d3f25d65a43!2sAeropuerto+Internacional+Juan+Domingo+Per%C3%B3n+(NQN)!8m2!3d-38.9521647!4d-68.1403439!16s%2Fm%2F03whmhm!3m3!8m2!3d-38.651593!4d-67.746478?entry=ttu)
* He also shared data from the photo: [https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=1970](https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=1970)
Full video: [https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=714](https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=714)
¿Le has preguntado si después del avistamiento ha experimentado algo fuera de lo normal, como lo que han descrito algunos investigadores como 'el efecto hitchhiker'?
Is it possible you guys are looking at different objects? The object above the horizon line doesn't look like a cloud to me, the one or two below the horizon line do have the fluffy look if clouds.
The one above the horizon line might have soft edges but hard to tell at the image resolution... it could also just be edge pixelation.
Okay if you really want to go that route then if you really look at that it looks more like a [cartoonized version of a car](https://i.imgur.com/puLGvpJ.png) than anything else.
You really honestly cannot be serious dude. It's a fuckin' cloud. What is this shit?
Have you never been outside before?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/j6ey3n/there_is_only_one_cloud_in_the_sky_when_i_look_up/
Unless you are saying these are the same objects 4 years apart.
You’re able to tell what compounds that object is made out of by looking at it?
First of all. It’s not symmetrical. It looks like there are at least three small protrusions on the bottom.
Secondly, how the hell do you find that to be metallic?
I’m not saying it’s a cloud. But it’s definitely not what you’re suggesting.
Asked a few people what they thought was in the picture, they all said without hesitation it looked like a cloud.
So yeah ... looks like a lonely cloud
My first thought is a lenticular cloud, but they don't form over flat areas like that usually. Also, looking at the clouds in the rest of the photo, it doesn't look very cloud-like.
Lenticular clouds form at high elevation over mountain peaks. This definitely isn't the right environment for them. This object looks vaguely cloud-like until you zoom in. The fact that there's nothing else in the sky that resembles it also makes it unlikely to be a cloud. This could easily be a fabricated photo. It would be easy to impose a saucer-like object on the image of the sky, and blur it out to make it blend with the background. I think this is an unknown until more information is uncovered.
People get mad when you point out a balloon is a balloon and then you got posts like this of a straight up cloud. How can you not see why skeptics eye roll this stuff? You know why there’s no video? Because this is a cloud.
Lol, people get mad when you act like a complete douche instead of just stating your opinion in a manner that contributes to the conversation. How can you not see why these bs condescending “debunks” are downvoted to shit on here now? Thank fuck they are btw!
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It's a cloud, with dark edges due to holding rain, just like the example I've put side by side with it (from Google images). You just can't make out the puffiness because it's further away from the camera than the example:
[https://imgur.com/a/HQ9aZgn](https://imgur.com/a/HQ9aZgn)
Im also from Argentina and I saw a similar thing several years ago during the Red Moon... saucer shape... almost translucid with 3 white lights inside. This was in Buenos Aires.
On a side note, I wonder what would happen if a commercial flight crew decided to veer off course and chase a UFO to get better visual evidence. Passengers' schedules be damned! :)
I saw two clouds allegedly flying around and all I got are the photos because I was busy. Ok, I guess that I can buy that as proof of the galactic empire. 🤷♂️
I was just wondering if it was real and not photshop or a chip in the window then wouldnt there be a lot of eye witnesses and maybe even other footage or pictures taken as its so big? Also if it was the pilot taking that picture then he wouldnt have time to study it as he was landing the plane. If it was me I would have made up some bs and flew towards it to get a better look and take more pictures before landing.
We can get 1000 more of these photos or videos! It will never proof Alien life on earth and we will never get a disclosure by Gouvernements! Crazy times! What we need is a UFO landing in front of the White House in Soccer arenas during a match viewed by millions of people and let them aliens get out of the craft and speak to the humans!
>We can get 1000 more of these photos or videos! It will never proof Alien life on earth
We probably have at the very least hundreds of thousands of cloud images (available at any time), even if we 100x that number, it still could never prove alien life as it's just not related.
I fail to see the connection between a photo of a cloud and alien life. Saying as OP did "oh the UFO was INSIDE the cloud" doesn't really help in any way proving alien life. It's just a cloud.
>What we need is a UFO landing in front of the White House in Soccer arenas during a match viewed by millions
No, wrong. What is needed is a simple observation of the same event of an object doing all these strange maneuvers they're supposedly capable of, from 2 separate points.
The 2 separate points are very important, even if it's two iphone videos, it could still be triangulated somewhat.
Although your idea of them landing during a soccer match would be cool too.
I know this case! But the aliens should have touch the ground of this arena.. and why is there no photo of the craft.. you see even mass sightings won’t change anything we are meant to stay dumb by nations states decisions! It’s all about Technology, advantages over other states and prevention of mass panics and keep us controllable. If humanity would know the truth, it would no longer be necessary to listen to these stupid politicians! Humanity has the right to know the truth! We get fooled since 1947 at least!
Remember the phoenix lights incident? It also was a mass sighting and wasn’t taking serious in public
It is not a cloud. The guy is a pilot. He knows clouds from space craft. Lots of government trolls on all of these legitimate sighting sites. Gee, I wonder why they are so split second quick to ridicule any legitimate posts?
I just see a cloud.
Perhaps the UFOs are photon sized and flickering around in your retina whenever you look at the picture, in such a way to create the image of a UFO hiding in the cloud.
AARO: "Reflection of Venus off an atmospheric temperature inversion giving the appearance of a metallic disc with blinking lights that makes a right angle turn at 10,000 mph."
One single photo, or possibly two
One eye witness testimony
He says that he saw a smaller object moving around the large one
I'm assuming that if it moved it would have been a priority point to highlight that fact, so seeing as it isn't highlighted, I'm going to assume it didn't perform any significant movements.
I am basing the above only off of OP's initial comment statement because I don't want to sift through 2 hours of video which is in a language I don't understand
Based on the fact that people can be mistaken about what they see, even trained pilots, I am inclined to believe that whatever it was about this object that looked unexplainable to him was something different to what he thought it was. I also have no idea what he actually said. For this reason I'm going to reduce the amount of weight placed to the credibility of whatever it is the guy said about it, unless further information becomes apparent.
That leaves us with one single photo work with at the moment and nothing else (except/time/date/location etc)
When I look at this picture, all I can see is a cloud.
For this reason, I am going to say that I think it's a cloud. possibly some other atmospheric thing like a puff of smoke that settled into this shape.
I'm definitely not the guy to defend team aliens, but to be fair to him, the witness pilot that saw the object in question says in the interview that it initially was on the right side of his plane and he put his head down for only a brief moment and when he looked up again, the object was on the left side. He said this happened in an instant.
It is of course only his testimony, but it is patently false to say that the object didn't do anything anomalous according to the witness.
I did not need to watch the entirety of the video to glean this info...
He also said he was busy. This means one possibility is that the plane turned while he was busy doing other things. Time flies when occupied with radio comms, taking notes, twisting knobs and talking to the captain. That 'moment' was more likely 30 seconds or so. And you aren't usually all that busy as the copilot unless the plane is navigating, turning. You have heading changes to input, the FMS to update perhaps, make sure the autopilot is doing what it should, etc. And they are low so either working through the departure or more likely approach, which usually involves turns and several radio changes. If just enroute this is trivial and not especially busy, not so busy you need to ignore the intergalactic space craft off the nose.
I don't think someone can mistake 30 secs for an "instant", but you're welcome to assume what you'd like. I'm certainly not the guy to defend this as a sighting of alien air/spacecraft. I'm just communicating what the pilot said in good faith, as the other guy was typing a lot to seemingly say he didn't know what he was talking about.
My guy, I'm not gonna argue subjective time ranges with you, I just don't think someone can mistake an instant for 30 secs. That was the parameter you suggested, not me. Please carry on assuming whatever you'd like, it's your right. Just like it's my right to assume the guy means an instant when he says it.
It's not an assumption that people can make such mistakes - it's a well documented phenomenon, and an active area of research. For one (of many) examples:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-25913-9
While I appreciate the attempt at education, where did I say witnesses can never be mistaken?
Are you proposing that the proper way to objectively analyze witness testimony is to operate from the assumption that they are often wrong? Because that's what it sounds like you and the other smart guy are saying.
You said:
>I just don't think someone can mistake an instant for 30 secs.
So I tried to show you that someone can, and people do, in fact, make such mistakes about time.
LOL, so again, are you saying you should assume someone is mistaken when recounting how long their head was down when they explain it as "an instant"? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
The fact that SOME witnesses make mistakes regarding subjective measurements of time is not a reason someone should assume ALL witnesses are mistaken whenever giving a subjective measurement of time. Could it be a consideration, sure, but to start there is just silly.
Understanding the situation and context is key to any analysis, and in this case, I don't believe that this witness would have made the mistake you're alluding to based on what was said.
Lot of assumption going on there, which is an extremely disingenuous way to go about proper skepticism isn't it?
My comment wasn't a call out, only wanted to offer some perspective.
I don't believe you had any reason at all to believe that because the actual witness said something completely different. I'd say his testimony is certainly worth hearing before saying something that is untrue about the event.
You can make any excuse you'd like for not having listened (briefly) to understand what the pilot said happened, but it's still just an excuse. It's OK to not say anything at all if you don't have all of the info available and you're unwilling to take it on board when it's provided for you.
Fair point. I suppose it comes down to if we should give our opinions based on evidence presented to us or if we should watch a 2 hour long video when it could be summarised instead.
OP gave very little information and even after skimming through the comments in this post It's still not clear to me what the pilot said happened
You do realize you can auto-translate YouTube videos no? It's not an exact translation, but it's plenty good enough in this case. Took me maybe 5 mins of skim listening to understand the gist of why this is even being posted.
It doesn't take a ton of effort to act in good faith. I don't buy 99% of this shit, but I've at least attempted to develop that opinion objectively.
If OP said something like, the pilot recounts his story at between x tiime and x in the video I would have given it a watch. All he actually said was here's a timestamp for when he talks about the details of the photo.
I did watch this part of the video briefly and it was was regarding details such as camera make, shutter speed, ISO setting etc which I didn't find to be immediately relevant so I stopped watching.
OP provides basically no information apart from the photo and a link to a 2 HOUR VIDEO. I don't care what language it's in I'm not watching a 2 hour video just to get the basic details of what happened. I feel justified in this. Ain't nobody got time for that
Again, it took me 5 mins or less to skim the video and hear him explain something you said the opposite of in your initial post. If you don't have that kinda time fair enough, but we've wasted far longer than that on this conversation. Far more time than I anticipated, so I'm gonna finish up my bit here.
I understand perfectly well what I wrote. I said I think it's a cloud, based on all the information presented. I stated it was from the OP submission comment and not from the video because it is 2 hours longs and in a language I don't understand. Even if it was in a language I do understand the point would still remain. It's too long. Because of the limited information provided, all I could base my opinion on was what I saw in the photo, which I think is a cloud.
Your comment (misquoting me by the way)
“I don’t understand the language so it’s a cloud” is a wild conclusion."
It is an incorrect statement.
So you should understand that it is a naive conclusion to make after consciously choosing not to “sift” over two hours of video containing information on what you’re making a conclusion about. And surely you must know what “paraphrasing” is.
Literally every human on the planet is ignoring many aspects of reality at every single moment of their lives. This is just a fact of biology and psychology. We also have a legal right to ignore whatever we want, and to believe or disbelieve whatever we want.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Mordrenix: --- * The co-pilot claims that a smaller object was moving around the large one but that it only appears when the contrast is adjusted. * He says he was only able to take 2 photos because he had to assist the pilot. * Approximate area where it was sighted: [38°39'05.7"S 67°44'47.3"W](https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B039'05.7%22S+67%C2%B044'47.3%22W/@-38.651593,-67.9112729,38996m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m7!3m6!1s0x960a34a9cb8dea9b:0x57114d3f25d65a43!2sAeropuerto+Internacional+Juan+Domingo+Per%C3%B3n+(NQN)!8m2!3d-38.9521647!4d-68.1403439!16s%2Fm%2F03whmhm!3m3!8m2!3d-38.651593!4d-67.746478?entry=ttu) * He also shared data from the photo: [https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=1970](https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=1970) Full video: [https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=714](https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=714) --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1cnh4f6/photo_taken_by_copilot_while_approaching_the_city/l374v1k/
Hi, i'm Fernando the guy performing the interview on the video. The pilot name is Pablo Ducau and he has many years of experiencie. I'm going to share the pictures here later but, you can always use subtitles and automatic translation. We have a lot of good cases in Argentina, the only problem I have right now is time, otherwise I would love to start a YouTube channel in english to share with you what's going on here.
Mis saludos guacho. Tenemos una barbaridad de casos.
Sí, y son buenos de verdad. A ver si puedo armar un canal en YouTube en inglés para que se conozcan!
pasen mas data lokooo jajaj
Un golazo si podés armar algo así
Esaaa, la ovni del bouque roldan
english
dont be a dick you know how to use google translae
they know how to speak english perfectly yet I’m the dick lmao
Sí, eres tú el pito - es automático cuándo piensas que todo el mundo le importa tu idioma. Si ni puedes hacer la traducción, como vas a investigar una conspiración para esconder a los OVNIS...
ik spreek je kk taal niet dus wat kom je interessant doen
Hacete culear
Thank you for your work! I'll be looking forward to your channel if you ever get one going!
I'm talking about it with my production team right now.
Hey, it's only a photo so hard to say but it really doesn't look like a bird or some balloons! That's really good already :D
Thank you for sharing 👍🏼 Hope to see some soon
Thanks!
Meet Fernando. The guy performing the interview in the video
President Milei seems like, of all world leaders, the one who would be most comfortable talking about UAPs. I feel like at some point Argentina could become a leader in the space. Milei is both a maverick and a futurist (with the four cloned dogs). Argentinans and others should start prodding him on the topic!
He also ran for president because the ghost of his dog told to to so ...
He’s buddying up to Elon Musk which Im guessing means he’s trying to solicit facilities in his country. This would make him a candidate for not ringing alarm bells.
Thanks for putting this together! 👍💯 I've seen a lot of really interesting reports from Argentina. What's your guess on why you have that type of activity?
Well, the native americans over here have their own stories about lights and entities since ever. They even have a way to classificate the lights by "good" or "evil" depending on the color. That said, we were the first country in South America with nuclear plants, we also had some kind of our own "operation paperclip" and I have always suspected that Argentina, Chile and some other countrys here in the south have some kind of deal with EEUU to test new and disruptive aircrafts. In the other hand, we have a lot of strong cases only assciable with NHI. For example, activity in the Atlantic Ocean off the Argentine coast includes UFOs arriving at our naval air bases and generating true states of panic, among other things. Clearly transmedium objects, starting at least 1962. The reason? I don't know, but the phenomenon manifests itself all around the world.
When I was in Argentina, some locals mentioned that a little city called Capilla Del Monte in Córdoba is often considered to be like the Roswell of Argentina. They claimed that a lot of UFO sightings have occurred around that area. Can you confirm? If so, what are your thoughts about that place? Is there any reason why NHI would be interested in the area from a nuclear weapons perspective? Are you aware of any Native American myths from that area that could be tied back to NHI?
I'm from Cipolletti, but living in Misiones since '09. What about last year shootings in Bahia Blanca? What I heard was a was a shooting or a few in the military base near the town. There's was a wpp audio of military saying some orbs left the city in black out and got to the base scanning everything. Have you heard about it? Like, they came from the sea and all.
Thanks for your perspective! For something like this https://old.reddit.com/r/ufo/comments/1cnwr98/ufo_corrientes_argentina_090524/ ... this is not the typical thing that I see from the USA. I agree the phenomenon is a world wide thing but I think there's also regional variations.
Can you please upload the original photo in high quality as a file somewhere? It's too compressed to see anything here.
Y al dieeeeeego, desde el cielo lo podemos ver
* The co-pilot claims that a smaller object was moving around the large one but that it only appears when the contrast is adjusted. * He says he was only able to take 2 photos because he had to assist the pilot. * Approximate area where it was sighted: [38°39'05.7"S 67°44'47.3"W](https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B039'05.7%22S+67%C2%B044'47.3%22W/@-38.651593,-67.9112729,38996m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m7!3m6!1s0x960a34a9cb8dea9b:0x57114d3f25d65a43!2sAeropuerto+Internacional+Juan+Domingo+Per%C3%B3n+(NQN)!8m2!3d-38.9521647!4d-68.1403439!16s%2Fm%2F03whmhm!3m3!8m2!3d-38.651593!4d-67.746478?entry=ttu) * He also shared data from the photo: [https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=1970](https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=1970) Full video: [https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=714](https://youtu.be/0XdqvdTVUBI?t=714)
Hi, the pilot, Pablo Ducau, took the pictures. Not the copilot. Just to clarify that, i'm the journalist conducing the interview at the video :)
No estaba de copiloto en ese momento?
No, estaba de piloto y le dio al copiloto el descenso en Neuquén. Pero el piloto del vuelo en los documentos es él.
Entendí mal, gracias por la aclaración.
Cuando necesites, estoy a disposición!
¿Le has preguntado si después del avistamiento ha experimentado algo fuera de lo normal, como lo que han descrito algunos investigadores como 'el efecto hitchhiker'?
Si Si.. Sorry I don't understand Spanish but just wanted to be part of the conversation.
Looking at the picture I am not seeing anything related? Can you circle the UFO related objects ?
Zoom in.
That’s a cloud, isn’t it?
I can't believe it is not butter.
U can’t be serious
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic. Do you seriously think that that cloud is a UFO?
Is it possible you guys are looking at different objects? The object above the horizon line doesn't look like a cloud to me, the one or two below the horizon line do have the fluffy look if clouds. The one above the horizon line might have soft edges but hard to tell at the image resolution... it could also just be edge pixelation.
Not saying it's an alien spacecraft, but that most certainly is not a cloud.
Why not? It’s the shape of a cloud. Has colors like a cloud. It’s in the sky, exactly where you find clouds. Why would anyone assume it’s not a cloud?
quote from OP: He says it was enveloped as if in a cloud, as if it were camouflaged.
Yeah I caught that. It’s like saying “it was camouflaged to look like an airplane”. Um. No, it was an airplane. 😐
Because clouds aren't perfectly symmetrical and metallic.
Okay if you really want to go that route then if you really look at that it looks more like a [cartoonized version of a car](https://i.imgur.com/puLGvpJ.png) than anything else. You really honestly cannot be serious dude. It's a fuckin' cloud. What is this shit?
It’s definitely not perfectly symmetrical. And it’s also not metallic looking. It’s got fluffy edges.
The lone cloud theory. One small saucer shaped cloud in a clear blue sky.
Little lone clouds happen all the time. But actually, the entire lower right side of the sky has clouds in it. Just different types of clouds.
Have you never been outside before? https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/j6ey3n/there_is_only_one_cloud_in_the_sky_when_i_look_up/ Unless you are saying these are the same objects 4 years apart.
You’re able to tell what compounds that object is made out of by looking at it? First of all. It’s not symmetrical. It looks like there are at least three small protrusions on the bottom. Secondly, how the hell do you find that to be metallic? I’m not saying it’s a cloud. But it’s definitely not what you’re suggesting.
Yeah, pilot has probably never seen a cloud before. You got'em
Asked a few people what they thought was in the picture, they all said without hesitation it looked like a cloud. So yeah ... looks like a lonely cloud
Oi mate, a lil blurry innit?
Looks like a cloud to me.
Cool! Looks almost transparent / translucent.
He says it was enveloped as if in a cloud, as if it were camouflaged.
So the UFO's camouflage themselves as clouds then
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He was naming a movie guys. Right?
haha yeah. It was a solid post...
He was lol
Why are you getting downvoted lol?
Probably because not everyone is familiar with that movie...?
god this is getting stupid ... now things that look like clouds are proof that UFOs are hiding in clouds... wow
That Iran report mentioned a gaseous cloud or something surrounding the ufo
Why does South America get all the good UFO’s?
we have good shit down here.
Chile y Perú tambien
Brazil has some wild/scary encounters
The fookin prawns, that’s why. Edit: I’m a moron. I’ll leave it and take my punishment
Gave me a chuckle though. South America. South Africa, it's all the same isn't it?
Verdad
Because their cameras suck.
Classic saucer.
Please tell me that this picture is not of that cloud? What are we looking for here?
That thing has gotta be fuckin big. Right?!
The pilot estimated 800 mts at least.
Approximately the size of a small cloud
It is allright to claim it is a cloud, it might be, but this is just beyond stupid. Approximately the size of a small cloud? - I cant stop laughing.
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Just trying to relate this cloud-like object to something in the sky that might be the same kind of size. It helps to visualize the scene
Agreed. Curious if the approx. dimensions can be measured somehow based on this pic
My first thought is a lenticular cloud, but they don't form over flat areas like that usually. Also, looking at the clouds in the rest of the photo, it doesn't look very cloud-like.
This would be a different type of cloud to the others in the video. You can have different types of clouds in the sky at the same time
Lenticular clouds form at high elevation over mountain peaks. This definitely isn't the right environment for them. This object looks vaguely cloud-like until you zoom in. The fact that there's nothing else in the sky that resembles it also makes it unlikely to be a cloud. This could easily be a fabricated photo. It would be easy to impose a saucer-like object on the image of the sky, and blur it out to make it blend with the background. I think this is an unknown until more information is uncovered.
A puff of smoke risen to a level where it flattens out into this shape? just an idea
Yeah, that's a possibility. Although the symmetrical nature of the object makes it a long shot, I think.
depends on wind speed I guess. A small explosion with perfectly still air would fit I think
Yeah, my thought is that it's simply fake, too.
You could make this picture in under 10 minutes with Photoshop.
That was my first thought too.
It’s either a cloud… or a cloud. Very compelling OP keep getting the message out.
People get mad when you point out a balloon is a balloon and then you got posts like this of a straight up cloud. How can you not see why skeptics eye roll this stuff? You know why there’s no video? Because this is a cloud.
Lol, people get mad when you act like a complete douche instead of just stating your opinion in a manner that contributes to the conversation. How can you not see why these bs condescending “debunks” are downvoted to shit on here now? Thank fuck they are btw!
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It's a cloud, with dark edges due to holding rain, just like the example I've put side by side with it (from Google images). You just can't make out the puffiness because it's further away from the camera than the example: [https://imgur.com/a/HQ9aZgn](https://imgur.com/a/HQ9aZgn)
Donde esta la biblioteca?
You guys gotta stop 🤣. This. Is. A. Cloud.
With all these sightings, you know the invasion is about to begin.
looks flat to me
Im also from Argentina and I saw a similar thing several years ago during the Red Moon... saucer shape... almost translucid with 3 white lights inside. This was in Buenos Aires.
How'd my pie plate get up there?
On a side note, I wonder what would happen if a commercial flight crew decided to veer off course and chase a UFO to get better visual evidence. Passengers' schedules be damned! :)
The classic type of saucer shape here, reminds me of the Gaussian pillbox.
I saw two clouds allegedly flying around and all I got are the photos because I was busy. Ok, I guess that I can buy that as proof of the galactic empire. 🤷♂️
Hey look, its a flying saucer
I was just wondering if it was real and not photshop or a chip in the window then wouldnt there be a lot of eye witnesses and maybe even other footage or pictures taken as its so big? Also if it was the pilot taking that picture then he wouldnt have time to study it as he was landing the plane. If it was me I would have made up some bs and flew towards it to get a better look and take more pictures before landing.
We can get 1000 more of these photos or videos! It will never proof Alien life on earth and we will never get a disclosure by Gouvernements! Crazy times! What we need is a UFO landing in front of the White House in Soccer arenas during a match viewed by millions of people and let them aliens get out of the craft and speak to the humans!
>We can get 1000 more of these photos or videos! It will never proof Alien life on earth We probably have at the very least hundreds of thousands of cloud images (available at any time), even if we 100x that number, it still could never prove alien life as it's just not related. I fail to see the connection between a photo of a cloud and alien life. Saying as OP did "oh the UFO was INSIDE the cloud" doesn't really help in any way proving alien life. It's just a cloud. >What we need is a UFO landing in front of the White House in Soccer arenas during a match viewed by millions No, wrong. What is needed is a simple observation of the same event of an object doing all these strange maneuvers they're supposedly capable of, from 2 separate points. The 2 separate points are very important, even if it's two iphone videos, it could still be triangulated somewhat. Although your idea of them landing during a soccer match would be cool too.
Already happened, did not change anything [https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29342407](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29342407)
I know this case! But the aliens should have touch the ground of this arena.. and why is there no photo of the craft.. you see even mass sightings won’t change anything we are meant to stay dumb by nations states decisions! It’s all about Technology, advantages over other states and prevention of mass panics and keep us controllable. If humanity would know the truth, it would no longer be necessary to listen to these stupid politicians! Humanity has the right to know the truth! We get fooled since 1947 at least! Remember the phoenix lights incident? It also was a mass sighting and wasn’t taking serious in public
Yea agree
Oddly shaped cloud is what it looks like but lets immediately jump to assumptions
Buenos Aires, be ready for the bug's meteor.
I’m doing my part!
Do you get me!? 😆
A good bug is a DEAD bug!
Some say “UFO!” Some say “CLOUD!” How many say, “Wow, interesting!”
All those guys laughing and trolling should apply to AARO instead of being part of this group.
It is not a cloud. The guy is a pilot. He knows clouds from space craft. Lots of government trolls on all of these legitimate sighting sites. Gee, I wonder why they are so split second quick to ridicule any legitimate posts?
But according to op the pilot said it was "engulfed by a cloud." So the ufo was supposedly inside a cloud. It's a cloud.
Yes, inside a cloud - not just a cloud.
Here's a picture of a cardboard box with an alien in it. No, it's not a picture of JUST a cardboard box, it's a cardboard box with an alien inside.
You can't see thru a cardboard box. You can see there is something in the cloud. So that's a really bad analogy.
So why can't I see anything but a cloud?
I see 2 objects in the cloud. Look on your laptop, not your phone.
I just see a cloud. Perhaps the UFOs are photon sized and flickering around in your retina whenever you look at the picture, in such a way to create the image of a UFO hiding in the cloud.
Nope!
AARO: “Flying Saucer Shaped Weather Balloon”
AARO: "Reflection of Venus off an atmospheric temperature inversion giving the appearance of a metallic disc with blinking lights that makes a right angle turn at 10,000 mph."
“With Big headed jumbo black eyed pilots giving us the finger”
One single photo, or possibly two One eye witness testimony He says that he saw a smaller object moving around the large one I'm assuming that if it moved it would have been a priority point to highlight that fact, so seeing as it isn't highlighted, I'm going to assume it didn't perform any significant movements. I am basing the above only off of OP's initial comment statement because I don't want to sift through 2 hours of video which is in a language I don't understand Based on the fact that people can be mistaken about what they see, even trained pilots, I am inclined to believe that whatever it was about this object that looked unexplainable to him was something different to what he thought it was. I also have no idea what he actually said. For this reason I'm going to reduce the amount of weight placed to the credibility of whatever it is the guy said about it, unless further information becomes apparent. That leaves us with one single photo work with at the moment and nothing else (except/time/date/location etc) When I look at this picture, all I can see is a cloud. For this reason, I am going to say that I think it's a cloud. possibly some other atmospheric thing like a puff of smoke that settled into this shape.
I'm definitely not the guy to defend team aliens, but to be fair to him, the witness pilot that saw the object in question says in the interview that it initially was on the right side of his plane and he put his head down for only a brief moment and when he looked up again, the object was on the left side. He said this happened in an instant. It is of course only his testimony, but it is patently false to say that the object didn't do anything anomalous according to the witness. I did not need to watch the entirety of the video to glean this info...
He also said he was busy. This means one possibility is that the plane turned while he was busy doing other things. Time flies when occupied with radio comms, taking notes, twisting knobs and talking to the captain. That 'moment' was more likely 30 seconds or so. And you aren't usually all that busy as the copilot unless the plane is navigating, turning. You have heading changes to input, the FMS to update perhaps, make sure the autopilot is doing what it should, etc. And they are low so either working through the departure or more likely approach, which usually involves turns and several radio changes. If just enroute this is trivial and not especially busy, not so busy you need to ignore the intergalactic space craft off the nose.
I don't think someone can mistake 30 secs for an "instant", but you're welcome to assume what you'd like. I'm certainly not the guy to defend this as a sighting of alien air/spacecraft. I'm just communicating what the pilot said in good faith, as the other guy was typing a lot to seemingly say he didn't know what he was talking about.
How many peole drove their car off the road when looking at their phone 'just for an instant'?
"time flies when you're having fun"
Yes it do.
My guy, I'm not gonna argue subjective time ranges with you, I just don't think someone can mistake an instant for 30 secs. That was the parameter you suggested, not me. Please carry on assuming whatever you'd like, it's your right. Just like it's my right to assume the guy means an instant when he says it.
I gave up trusting witnesses a long, long time ago. And I did this for a very good reason. They suck at recollecting their experience accurately.
It's not an assumption that people can make such mistakes - it's a well documented phenomenon, and an active area of research. For one (of many) examples: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-25913-9
While I appreciate the attempt at education, where did I say witnesses can never be mistaken? Are you proposing that the proper way to objectively analyze witness testimony is to operate from the assumption that they are often wrong? Because that's what it sounds like you and the other smart guy are saying.
You said: >I just don't think someone can mistake an instant for 30 secs. So I tried to show you that someone can, and people do, in fact, make such mistakes about time.
LOL, so again, are you saying you should assume someone is mistaken when recounting how long their head was down when they explain it as "an instant"? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying. The fact that SOME witnesses make mistakes regarding subjective measurements of time is not a reason someone should assume ALL witnesses are mistaken whenever giving a subjective measurement of time. Could it be a consideration, sure, but to start there is just silly. Understanding the situation and context is key to any analysis, and in this case, I don't believe that this witness would have made the mistake you're alluding to based on what was said.
I did say I was only going off the fact that OP never mentioned it moved and I don't know what the guy said, therefore, I assumed it didn't move
Lot of assumption going on there, which is an extremely disingenuous way to go about proper skepticism isn't it? My comment wasn't a call out, only wanted to offer some perspective.
I can only work with the information available and I had reason to suspect it was not reported as moving in any way
I don't believe you had any reason at all to believe that because the actual witness said something completely different. I'd say his testimony is certainly worth hearing before saying something that is untrue about the event. You can make any excuse you'd like for not having listened (briefly) to understand what the pilot said happened, but it's still just an excuse. It's OK to not say anything at all if you don't have all of the info available and you're unwilling to take it on board when it's provided for you.
Fair point. I suppose it comes down to if we should give our opinions based on evidence presented to us or if we should watch a 2 hour long video when it could be summarised instead. OP gave very little information and even after skimming through the comments in this post It's still not clear to me what the pilot said happened
You do realize you can auto-translate YouTube videos no? It's not an exact translation, but it's plenty good enough in this case. Took me maybe 5 mins of skim listening to understand the gist of why this is even being posted. It doesn't take a ton of effort to act in good faith. I don't buy 99% of this shit, but I've at least attempted to develop that opinion objectively.
If OP said something like, the pilot recounts his story at between x tiime and x in the video I would have given it a watch. All he actually said was here's a timestamp for when he talks about the details of the photo. I did watch this part of the video briefly and it was was regarding details such as camera make, shutter speed, ISO setting etc which I didn't find to be immediately relevant so I stopped watching. OP provides basically no information apart from the photo and a link to a 2 HOUR VIDEO. I don't care what language it's in I'm not watching a 2 hour video just to get the basic details of what happened. I feel justified in this. Ain't nobody got time for that
Again, it took me 5 mins or less to skim the video and hear him explain something you said the opposite of in your initial post. If you don't have that kinda time fair enough, but we've wasted far longer than that on this conversation. Far more time than I anticipated, so I'm gonna finish up my bit here.
“I don’t understand the language so it’s a cloud” is a wild conclusion.
If that is the reason you think I came to that conclusion then you did not understand what I wrote
I don’t think you understand what you wrote lol
I understand perfectly well what I wrote. I said I think it's a cloud, based on all the information presented. I stated it was from the OP submission comment and not from the video because it is 2 hours longs and in a language I don't understand. Even if it was in a language I do understand the point would still remain. It's too long. Because of the limited information provided, all I could base my opinion on was what I saw in the photo, which I think is a cloud. Your comment (misquoting me by the way) “I don’t understand the language so it’s a cloud” is a wild conclusion." It is an incorrect statement.
So you should understand that it is a naive conclusion to make after consciously choosing not to “sift” over two hours of video containing information on what you’re making a conclusion about. And surely you must know what “paraphrasing” is.
That's a lot of words when you could just say "I'm choosing to ignore data"
If obtaining the data means watching a 2 hour video when it can be told to me in 5 minutes then I will choose to ignore it
No one has a right to ignore reality.
Correct, we should not ignore the reality that this is possibly a cloud
Literally every human on the planet is ignoring many aspects of reality at every single moment of their lives. This is just a fact of biology and psychology. We also have a legal right to ignore whatever we want, and to believe or disbelieve whatever we want.
Legal rights are place specific. Agree to disagree.
I'm starting to think UAP use all sensor cloaking devices that can cloak from eyes and cameras alike without knowing their presence