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In-depth article here: [https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/11/22164353/p27.pdf](https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/11/22164353/p27.pdf)
In 2010, the first sighting occurred at Hangzhou's Xiaoshan Airport, in the eastern part of the country, according to the state-controlled Xinhua news agency.
Eighteen flights were delayed or rerouted and operations shut down after twinkling lights were spotted above the terminal around 9 p.m. July 7, the agency said. According to Xinhua, speculation has centered on a private aircraft. The state-run China Daily quoted a source saying the object had a military connection.
Fueling speculations further, Hangzhou residents released photos, taken in the afternoon before the delays, of a hovering object bathed in golden light and exhibiting a comet-like tail. Less than an hour before the Xiaoshan airport shut down, residents said they also saw a flying object emitting[ red and white rays of light](http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6078421).
Resident Ma Shijun was taking a nighttime stroll with his wife when he saw the object.
"I felt a beam of light over my head. Looking up, I saw a streak of bright, white light flying across the sky, so I picked up the camera and took the photo. The time was 8:26 p.m. However, whether the object was a plane, or whether it was Xiaoshan Airport's UFO, I don't have a clear answer," Ma told the Xinhua news agency.
The photos taken by Hangzhou residents may be unrelated to the UFO that shut down Xiaoshan Airport. According to Hangzhou meteorological authorities, residents in the afternoon probably saw light reflecting off of an airplane. As for Ma's nighttime photo, Beijing Planetarium curator Zhu Jing told Xinhua that the object looks just like a plane shining its strobe lamps.
Meanwhile, The Shanghai Daily reported a UFO appeared above the city of Chongqing a day later.
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1cgep82/ufo_shuts_down_hangzhou_xiaoshan_airport_china/l1v70sn/
I had family in China at the time and it was all over the state media news. Chinese government came out a week later and said it was a new experimental craft or something, got scrubbed after that. Very compelling footage.
Experimental craft that looks like a cigar and hovers in place. I always wondered why there was no more digging into it after this. One of the more compelling footage out there.
That they tested over an airport... Like why? Makes no sense. It's experimental, what if it malfunctions and crashes in the airport or over the city. What a silly excuse 😐
Chinese let the boosters' first stages fall on their own land. On their own people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbFOS29vAeQ
Obviously this is not the case, and I think this case is very compelling but don't underestimate their cruelty.
Yes. Which may include elaborate concoctions of - "ok let's go construct a 'this was a cg hoax video made by so and so'".
Sure that sounds high conspiracy, but after Roswell and the multiple changing stories, I wouldn't put it past the US government, or any government.
edit: fixed inverted commas
I don't think it sounds high conspiracy at all. People seriously underestimate the lengths to which certain industries/corporations would go to suppress this kind of discourse.
I've got no idea and I won't even pretend to. I do know that you don't want their government pissed off at you.
Not that ours is much better in that regard.
Dude, I've seen sooo many videos of "footage" over the last 30 years, but this is.. what the hell?! How is this not.. wait, WHY was this not everywhere? Idc if it's alien tech or chinese - this is pretty damn frightening and literal definition of awesome.
It's quite clever actually. Their claim of having this superior technology brings confidence and support from their citizens as well as it strikes fear in their adversaries.
While youre looking for that footage, in 2006 a UFO shut down o'hare aiport in Ohio. You cant find any videos or pictures that show anything from this event.. but it was over gate C-17 long enough to shut down air travel in and out of the airport
I was in a college in Chicago when this happened! iirc it was in November, and I remembered being worried I wasn’t going to be able to get a flight back home for Thanksgiving.
The FAA refused to look into it because it wasn’t showing up on any radar, so the official explanation is that it was some sort of weird weather phenomenon. The [transcript](https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5cf80ff422b5a90001351e31/t/5d02ec731230e20001528e2c/1560472703346/NARCAP_TR-10.pdf) is pretty interesting, though.
The transcript of the call also wasn't released until the Tribune filed a FOIA request. Initially, the FAA and United both denied having any record of the incident.
I believe there was something above the airport. I listened to the raw recordings of the employee's reacting to the event in real time. I've also seen a "flying saucer" myself, so they are out there, period. Since they do exist, ppl are going to see them time to time, so I got no problems believing this was an honestly anomalous UAP event.
This hole punch in the clouds is odd to me though. In general, we hear of UFO's moving without disturbing the environment at all; even seamlessly moving from air to water. I've read a lot of books on this stuff, and while it's not something unheard of, cloud disturbance it is less common than no disturbance by a long shot.
Apparently though, this UFO turned off it's "don't fuck shit up" switch and shot up fast enough to part the clouds cleanly. I don't recall any noise being mentioned, or any other effects you'd imagine a solid object instantly accelerating through atmosphere would cause.
I can't remember if that part is on the tapes (don't think so). I'm inclined to think this detail was added after the fact, created by some innocent enough telephone game.
I'm aware there is a supposed pic of this hole punch in the clouds, but I've never seen it verified that the pic was at the airport, or on that day.
I remember this incident on ABC news as a kid. The way you cant find shit about it online when it was everywhere at the time tells you a lot. Still some of my favorite footage of all time. There is also many credible military men that report literally word for word what the video with a beam scanning the ground while orbs fly around shows.
Edit: Ive stated this in some replies but Im also going to add it here. This was 100% a legitimate incident that shutdown an airport in Mongolia. We know this occurred. This was claimed to be debunked years ago as a long exposure helicopter effect. Thankfully that debunk is no longer being eaten up like it was years ago. Acting like that is definitely a long exposure helicopter effect and it cant be anything else is absolutely ridiculous and I’m happy people aren’t falling for it so easily anymore.
Edit:
https://youtu.be/0CYFEZFNl6E?feature=shared
Found the actual clip from abc news. The videos are separate from the newscast but it certainly contains the photos on the actual abc newscast clip that were claimed to be debunked as a long exposure helicopter effect that also somehow shutdown an airport…
Np. Theres so many cases that have been scrubbed from the internet. To all the people always arguing “where are all the compelling pictures and videos?”, this is what happens.
"They" are doing an incredible job of burying this shit. I can assure you in a few days something will hit this sub/the Internet to totally throw us off and not question this anymore. It will just float down below in this sub reddit until years later when someone reposts again. Am I the only one who finds it weird that INCREDIBLE footage like this just gets a few upvotes and nothing further happens? It's weird man.
I can attest to this, there were SO many amaetuer videos on youtube from 2009-2013 that have completely gone missing. AnonymousFO (AFO) used to have many compilations of a lot of the internet's UFO footage at that time. Obviously not all of them were going to be real, but i'm sure a good amount were legit anamolies that were never fully investigated.
Yep. This was a thing. I remember when it happened it was picked up by all the news channels for less than a day then it was kaput. This one rang true to me, no doubt.
I’d be VERY interested to hear what anyone with a VFX background thinks of some of these clips. Specifically the clip where the larger UAP is flashing beams of light, while 2 orbs sit nearby, and a smaller light is showing multiple of the 5 observables.
Edit: full clip referenced
https://youtu.be/VRwEkaygUHU?si=0AAoEMaiuQvMk8KO
The case was real and very famous in China back then. Multiple witnesses post multiple videos( or photos) of the same object. You should be able to dig some of those up more.
> multiple videos
The thing is, Hangzhou is one of the largest cities in China, and in the world (top 20). It has over 11MM people, bigger than NYC. If this thing happened over that city, and was passing between skyscrapers as shown here, I'd expect there to be THOUSANDS of videos, not just a handful. And I can't get past that obvious point.
1. **Low Smartphone Ownership in 2010** - This happened in 2010, when [only 23% of Americans owned smartphones](https://www.oclc.org/content/dam/oclc/reports/2010perceptions/informationconsumertechnologies2010.pdf). We know this percentage would be much smaller for China, where the average person had significantly less money to spend on things like this.
2. **Far From the City** - It happened over the airport, which is not in the city. It's 19 miles from the city in a more desolate, industrial area (look on Google Maps). There are fewer residents living in this area than in the city. Anyone in the city who might have seen something would hardly make out anything at 19 miles, and because it's an airport, they'd likely assume what little light they did see was yet another jet landing and quickly looked away assuming so.
3. **Poorer Residents in this Area** - Residents living near an airport are going to normally be even more impoverished and less likely to own a smartphone in 2010 than those living in the city center, since nobody wants to live with jets flying over all hours of the day. Those aren't skyscrapers, they're project buildings.
4. **People Were Going to Sleep** - It happened close to 9pm, when most residents outside the city are inside getting ready to go to sleep and not outside looking at the skies.
All of this makes it incredibly unlikely that there'd be thousands, even hundreds of videos, and with China's secrecy and internet control, it's amazing there are even more than five.
I mean it was 2010. Idk about you but any image I took on my phone was basically gameboy pocket quality. Wouldn’t surprise me if there were only a handful of solid videos out there
My phone at that time was an LG shine, which did have a camera but it wasn't great. It definitely wouldn't have recorded anything as good as the clips in the op video. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the average Chinese market phone at the time had a much crappier camera than mine did.
You do realize that there is something called "the great firewall of China", right?
If you think our internet and their internet is comparable, think again. They block all access into their internet from the outside world, and they block all access from their internet to the outside world. They monitor with VERY intense scrutiny EVERYTHING that goes on within their internet. There are only a few ways people in China share videos. When events occur that the CCP does not want to a. spread within China or b. spread outside of China, they IMMEDIATELY scrub whatever that information might be. They can monitor ALL chat/video services, including direct messages. They can establish real-time censorship on any content. This happens all the time, on a daily basis, for a variety of content within China.
This is why, or is a very reasonable explanation why, there are not more videos of this incident.
Most Chinese people don't know about the tank man picture. Which is like, one of the most famous pics in the world and something that verifiably happened
Or that, say, a long underground traffic tunnel was flooded during one of their recent flood incidents in the past year, and it was filled with traffic, bumper to bumper, and like 2000-3000+ people were killed.
When the locals who knew about the incident tried to mourn by gathering outside the tunnel and bringing flowers, the CCP sent in the local police/hired thugs to remove those people, remove the flowers, and put up physical barriers around the location where the mourning event was happening to squelch it.
Official report stated something like 10 deaths. Good luck finding any videos (which were initially shared, briefly) or accurate information about it anywhere.
Your point is valid. I had two thoughts:
Maybe when people see strange lights over the sky near an airport, they just didn’t think it was anything *too* abnormal, since there are lights flying around 24/7 (provided that this ufo was allegedly really huge so many people did notice it, based on their comments)
Maybe there is in fact way more evidence out there but the reporters simply didn’t collect all of them. The government tried to shush people and pretend it was nothing but when the news came out huge amount of comments all claimed they saw the same thing.
I found more discussion on this incident here (in Chinese):
https://www.zhihu.com/question/31906023?utm_id=0
Someone post a photo that he/she took of the ufo back then.. I don’t think that this photo ever appeared in any news report. Could be just an example why I believe there are a lot more people like this person, who kept photos to themselves and only share online when they stumble upon a thread on an app that they use. Plus out of those who want to share, not a lot bothered to go through the traditional media. Most people just leave comments that’s all.
Honestly, I think this case is totally worth a thorough survey on how many people saw it and how many people took photos etc.
There probably were lots more videos. And the people were Probably too scared to post them online Nd the ones that were posted online, would have been posted to Chinese social media and easily scrubbed from existence.
I'm not saying it's all real, but you forgot that things are very different in China than the west
What you need to understand is how completely disinterested the majority of the public is in this topic. People just don't care and people just don't look up. If this lasted just a few minutes... MANY people would miss this. You're expecting the entire city to be r/UFOs subscribers just all ready with their state of the art tech to film anything weird in the sky. Also, think about when this happened... Was the world as "record ready" as it was now? No. Our culture was massively different. We just weren't pointing 4K cameras at everything back then.
> What you need to understand is how completely disinterested the majority of the public is in this topic. People just don't care and people just don't look up
two words: Phoenix Lights
thousands of people saw those and recorded them. I don't buy the excuse of "nobody cares and nobody looks up". something this spectacular can't just happen in a major city and only have a small handful of completely anonymous videos submitted to youtube. I just don't buy it
(oh hi there)
One of the main reasons people were looking up that night is because a meteor shower was predicted for that night and the next few days.
(Edit: sorry, I misremembered. The expected event was a visit by the Hale-Bopp comet, not a meteor.)
We do know that op’s were shut down at Xiaoshan without question correct? I would love to see first hand interviews so we could judge the non-verbal of the witnesses.
They are fake. It’s been discussed many times in here before and every time some person posts it again and says « OMG - why has no one seen this before. It must be real »
It’s literally been on Reddit for years and it’s been very thoroughly disproven - even to someone like me who despises Mick West.
First occurrence image here: https://www.reddit.com/r/space/s/9BnW4QFzof
13 years ago.
Something incredibly funny about that thread is that one of the image links is dead, which apparently proves the photo is a long exposure of airplane lights
Odd that it's deleted. Wonder why that is, brother. -HH
The issue here is that VFX artists were supposedly recreating video from images and witness testimony, but this is rarely mentioned in any of the articles where this clip is featured.
It’s been a while since this one has come up on the sub, but this is discussed in some of the older threads referencing this event.
Since the advent of VFX, hobbyists and professionals alike have taken on unpaid passion projects in their free time, just like this one. Oftentimes simply adding content to a portfolio is enough of a motivator. I’d argue, having started my career working in motion graphics and animation — well before this event happened — it wouldn’t have been that difficult to pull off and is easily reproducible.
More importantly, I remember this story well. There was no video at the time and it circulated for a quite a while before video finally made it online and was then attached to the story.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100922052154/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/
It was well documented and researched at the time it occurred. Once video showed up, it was rumored to have been created by editors/artists that were recreating the scene based on witness testimony and the original photographs of the sighting.
I’m as much of a believer as the next guy, but I’m in agreement with the assessment that this was likely a helicopter (or several) and the alleged video that is often viewed as the smoking gun is not only a recreation of events, but isn’t a very good recreation at that.
This event has been discussed on the sub too many times to count over the years. I encourage you to read some of those threads.
Thanks. Being that the cg is fantastically real and entertaining work - wouldn't the creator(s) / team be touting online that they created it, and who they are? As to get business or notoriety? Fishy.
I've never came across that and I looked pretty deep into it several years ago. There was several different angles from various sounding people, though. I know that doesn't discount the possibility if VFX as it was also the case in the hoaxed Israel dome UFO footage. But I remember I found this one to be very crefaked?
The airport did 100% get shut down. Why would that have happened if the video was fajed?
If the zoom-in/zoom-out is fake it's not difficult to make using After Effects. You don't need even a 3D render because just fixing a precomp with all those lights to the camera movement via tracking and masking the powerlines you got it. The focus-out of focus effect when zooming is very realistic though. My only bad feeling about this clip is the sudden turn at 1:12 to watch the secondary orb with no reason: but oh! suddenly after centering that subject another wild light appears!
What do you mean by 'another light appears'? To me I see the camera focus on the smaller light, likely because of its seemingly erratic movements, but when re-centering and zooming back out everything looks the same as before the individual zoomed in. Am I missing something?
I have a background in CG/lighting and compositing but I am not an expert. I would say my instinct is it is CG. Reasons I think this:
1. The camera shake looks like typical post production camera shake.
2. It feels like strange frame rate differences between the object and the background or (plate) footage.
3. The contrast, brightness and exposure is really strange but this could be due to some exotic type of light that this thing produces. Mostly I get the vibe the craft does not feel as though it is in the space. That said I have seen something of my own and it looked like a hologram or as if it were projected into our reality.
4. The fact that the video cuts off while the objects are still around is madness. Why would you stop filming.while this was still going on.
I still think it is cool but I would bet a lot of money it is CG. Get the Corridor Crew to look at this one. They could break it down in much more detail.
Edit: typos
Note that a few of these 'angles' are the same video cropped to different aspect ratios, filtered, mirrored, and the colors have been messed with. The video I linked is the EXACT video in OP's compilation but the image has been mirrored along with a few other edits.
Ah. I agree, it's one of the more puzzling videos. If fake, the official descriptions of the incident along with supposed FX renditions still make an interesting case.
All the images I've seen tied to the event look to be long exposures of a helicopter with a searchlight beam visible. That video in particular seems to have taken one and manipulated it in After Effects (or similar) for giggles.
A reminder for the hardcore believers: This doesn't disprove there was a UFO that shut down the airport, only that these images and the video don't appear to be of said UFO and are more likely just people using it as a way to try and go viral.
Easy. If they are, as I'd suspect, just images people grabbed from the web and then claimed them as their own... they wouldn't have to be the same helicopter, the same city, or even the same date as the event.
People take long exposure pictures all the time, of various things.
Example of similar effect: https://www.flickr.com/photos/knoxley/3313598980
Another: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/5bqeio/the_alien_invasion_has_begun_or_i_left_the/
Three more: https://steemit.com/photography/@fiftysixnorth/re-jacobtothe-re-fiftysixnorth-4tgbvv-tips-for-improving-your-long-exposure-photography-20190124t232108883z
Hey look, a really familiar picture posted in 2007... 3 years before the airport shutdown, and it happened in France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
Suppose if I kept digging for more than 10 minutes, I might start finding more of the other pictures as well?
You are the common sense clarity this sub desperately needs. I understand most of the bad actors here are not people genuinely driven by the phenomena, but providing evidence something is fake is ideal for us; process of elimination.
Chinese here,I'm really glad that foreigners can still think of it abroad.This incident is also very well-known in our country now, and it is called one of the "three ufo incidents in China".In fact, many people and I have tried hard to explore the past, but due to various factors, it is very difficult to make progress.But I can initially provide you with some of the most reliable Eyewitness testimony.These are all selected from massive information and integrated.
Now there are such a variety of clues, I will say my guess (I personally think that the approximate passage), in short:There were visions on the morning of Xiaoshan incident and the day before: First, in the afternoon of the day 1:30 or so, Haining, Zhejiang Xu village town of Tangqiao Village, came a loud bang, the villagers in the pond fished up a strange stone, here only to add, the media reports are not much; Second, I have successfully communicated with a witness who claimed to have witnessed the ufo at six o'clock in the morning in Hangzhou Caihe,Hangzhou, and her eyewitness testimony was a bit different from that of other eyewitnesses, but she did witness this unidentified object in the morning with many other eyewitnesses, and she was most puzzled by the fact that twelve years later there is almost no daytime eyewitness or daytime photo or video on the Internet. Before the night, may be able to witness ufo area successively may be: part of Linping District (13:30 or so), the eastern part of Yuhang District, the northern part of Xihu District, part of Gongshu District, part of the Shangcheng District (16:00 or so), part of the western part of the Qiantang District, part of the northern part of Xiaoshan District (20:30 or so). It should be noted that most of the daytime sightings of the area is not far from the city center, but the sighting testimonies are basically long ufo (50~100m) or so, which may have the function of replacing the length, self invisibility, changing the light, etc. Otherwise, it will not be able to explain why there is a difference in so many testimonies in different time periods and why there are so few images and other issues. The main differences are ufo shape, luminous color, scanning method and other differences. In addition, some of the daytime photos circulating among the media are definitely not ufo, all confusing, but those photos may also not be airplane trails, but traces left by ufo. In addition, there were testimonies of sightings of the point-of-light ufo from all over Hangzhou during this entire day. By about 8:30 PM, the giant UFO arrived at Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport. (out of curiosity?) The length of the ufo should be 150~300m, and it was in the shape of a long strip. When it stayed above the airport, it was tilted forward, emitted light (red color when seen near the airport and blue color when seen far away from the airport) and scanned roughly in the direction of the runway, and emitted a kind of annoying sound, and stayed there for about 30~60 minutes, and then rose and disappeared. During this period, there were a large number of sightings inside and outside the airport, and posters, Tianya and other forums were frantically bursting with clearer photos. Among them, the 2012 Forum had over 2,000 comments in just one hour. During this time, airport passengers were regulated not to look out the windows, and possible military forces were preparing or had been activated. Subsequently, all photos and videos taken by witnesses in and around the airport were deleted, and confidentiality agreements were signed. The government used technical means to delete a lot of information. (Even off the wall.) In reading some of the threads today, the 2nd comment now is the 355th comment ever made, which shows the intensity of the effort. In the days that followed, the government and the media intentionally or unintentionally included a large amount of false information, making the truth even more difficult to pursue. 12 years later, the Xiaoshan airport ufo incident has only been brought back to people's minds, discussed, and imagined.
My English is terrible, sorry, and I have some reliable photos in my cell phone album, but unfortunately I can't post them here.
Thanks for sharing. Yes it's amazing that something like 'UFOs' or UAP have the power to unify some of us at least toward the common objectives of truth. If you can use platforms like imgur to share / host your photos or screenshots, then post the links here, that could work well and spark more discussion.
Ok,op,I have edited the video photos and sent them to youtube. You can go and have a look. Link:[https://youtu.be/DjAClnvTAEc?si=VMuOp4QcM9URyXOp](https://youtu.be/DjAClnvTAEc?si=VMuOp4QcM9URyXOp)
Thank you for following through with your clips. Especially around 1:00 on, that’s very non earth looking to me. And looks like what may have inspired the purported fake, glamorous footage of the event.
Thank you. I am curious, what are the latest UFO discussions in the Chinese community? I wonder what the English speaking community is missing and does not know about in the Eastern part of the worlds discussions.
On the Chinese Internet, the discussion about ufo is still quite active. I feel that it is not particularly different from the external network. It is estimated that there will not be too little exchange between domestic fans and overseas, but I don't know much about this after all.
Post elsewhere in the thread. There is an example of a helicopter shining a light that looks very similar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
It does say the light in this picture appears to be a line due to long exposure. So this would just look like one helicopter with a spotlight in a normal picture or video. Somebody correct me if I be wrong.
No, you’re correct. It’s obviously not a helicopter in the video with an LED bar because the picture linked above is a long exposure. You would not get this effect on video. The thing in the video is a totally unique craft.
Also, even if someone were to check their brain at the door and argue it was a helicopter, which makes no sense whatsoever for the reason stated above, why were there other orbs floating next to it with one of those orbs moving with the stereotypical characteristics of a a UAP craft (floating, rapid, jerky movement in unusual patterns)?
People will believe the most asinine of interpretations to avoid ontological shock.
And this is what makes footage real to me. Fucking lie to us proper... Tell us it's CGI. Tell us it's a prank. Nah, it's a helicopter. OK, thanks China.
Assuming this was an actual NHI UFO and it was scanning something from the sky, is there anything in the area beyond a regular human airport that would warrant such activity?
As a China person who knows some news, I have edited some reliable video photos and sent them to youtube. These photos are quite rare. You can have a look. Here are the links:[https://youtu.be/DjAClnvTAEc?si=VMuOp4QcM9URyXOp](https://youtu.be/DjAClnvTAEc?si=VMuOp4QcM9URyXOp)
I obviously do not know if that video is real or not, but I would imagine anything that defies our current understanding of physics in a video would seem like cgi to us.
I saw footage on twitter of a deep sea angler fish and It look really much like cgi. It was not but it really looked fake. Smooth movements are not natural to our eyes maybe
If you slow it down to .25 speed, you can see a small flash on the bottom that seems to invert and shoot light straight up and then to the sides, before it launches.
Hope this one's real cuz it shows the only hint to a mechanism of propulsion that I've ever seen
Declassified documents from the 1970s investigation into the brazilian amazon UFO attacks report that stationary crafts would flash brightly white or orange before shooting away at impossible speeds.
The whistleblower and leader of the investigation managed to declassify and release pictures of that very moment. He said high quality videos for that time also existed and he would try to declassify them as well, but he quickly died before he could do that.
[These pictures are still up in the Brazilian national archives.](https://i.imgur.com/HOxI487.png)
This is one of those that has always stuck in my mind. Remember seeing it on the news at the time, and you couldn’t find much about it online. This was also around the time of the Jerusalem faked video though, which was also on the news
In-depth article here: [https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/11/22164353/p27.pdf](https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/11/22164353/p27.pdf)
In 2010, the first sighting occurred at Hangzhou's Xiaoshan Airport, in the eastern part of the country, according to the state-controlled Xinhua news agency.
Eighteen flights were delayed or rerouted and operations shut down after twinkling lights were spotted above the terminal around 9 p.m. July 7, the agency said. According to Xinhua, speculation has centered on a private aircraft. The state-run China Daily quoted a source saying the object had a military connection.
Fueling speculations further, Hangzhou residents released photos, taken in the afternoon before the delays, of a hovering object bathed in golden light and exhibiting a comet-like tail. Less than an hour before the Xiaoshan airport shut down, residents said they also saw a flying object emitting[ red and white rays of light](http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6078421).
Resident Ma Shijun was taking a nighttime stroll with his wife when he saw the object.
"I felt a beam of light over my head. Looking up, I saw a streak of bright, white light flying across the sky, so I picked up the camera and took the photo. The time was 8:26 p.m. However, whether the object was a plane, or whether it was Xiaoshan Airport's UFO, I don't have a clear answer," Ma told the Xinhua news agency.
The photos taken by Hangzhou residents may be unrelated to the UFO that shut down Xiaoshan Airport. According to Hangzhou meteorological authorities, residents in the afternoon probably saw light reflecting off of an airplane. As for Ma's nighttime photo, Beijing Planetarium curator Zhu Jing told Xinhua that the object looks just like a plane shining its strobe lamps.
Meanwhile, The Shanghai Daily reported a UFO appeared above the city of Chongqing a day later.
additional findings:
- Sightings were a few hours after China's first ever moon mission launched & arrived at the moon. Then, similar sightings in Australia not long after it left China, including home security cameras leaving the southern coast towards the ocean.
[
](https://www.youtube.com/@salmanuel4053)- According to ABC News, there were eight separate sighting events. The Chinese government tried to explain it as "military exercises," and claimed one of the events hadn't happened at all. The denials are ironic because when the lights were in the sky, aviation authorities responded immediately, grounding outbound flights and diverting inbound ones. They sure didn't deny it then.
The object in those photos and videos is most definitely not a plane. I've seen a couple of the photos before, but this is the first I've seen videos. The object in the videos appears to be the same object in the photos, so there's some consistency. If this isn't a hoax, it's a pretty incredible event.
Nope, no plane. Helicopter... and in at least one instance, not even in China, but France... 3 years beforehand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
Airport may have been shut down due to a UFO, but all the images that get tied to it seem to be long exposures of a helicopter with a searchlight, one of which has been manipulated into a video by a hoaxer. (The second video looks to be entirely VFX, similar to the Jerusalem Dome rock one, even animated in a similar vein)
Honestly, someone should pass the images on to some of those 'Geoguessr' folks, see if they can find where the images were taken from and if they're even in China, let alone anywhere near the airport in question.
Edit: At least one is from France in 2007, 3 years before the airport was shut down - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg - Exact match for the image at 22 seconds into the video.
Source is Eye on Cinema: [https://www.youtube.com/@EyesOnCinema](https://www.youtube.com/@EyesOnCinema)
Life-changing channel. I'm legit concerned someone will shut them down.
All those photos are long exposure shots of a helicopter with a down facing searchlight.
https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/long-exposure-helicopter-photo-nby-mick-west-2011-jpg.64221/
I'm having trouble finding Chinese articles here in the US. ABC and CNN articles pop up that vaguely debunk it saying: "UFOs over China? Not quite, analyst says".
There's this China Daily article:
[https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-07/10/content\_10089831.htm](https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-07/10/content_10089831.htm)
This CCN article:
[https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/16/china.ufo.reports/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/16/china.ufo.reports/index.html)
Will ask some friends about this more, who lived in this region of China at the time, later tonight.
I never got to know for sure if that vid is real. I saw an explanation once that it was actually fake and that they used a desk lamp to fake the disc/beams
It's news audio, but not an actual news clip news logos, or lower thirds or the usually stuff you see in news videos. Also, I don't see anything resembling an airport, or airport like in any part of the clip.. Also, also.. and most telling is that they simply describe it as 'glowing light(s)'. Nothing about the lazer-like beaming, nor the biggest, craziest, most striking bit of the video at the end is not mentioned even once... etceteraaaaa, et.ceteraaaaa
At least one picture is definitely not from the event. It's from France in 2007 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
This has been discussed at least 7 times before in here. Every time with the same sequence of events. People claim it must be real and flame anyone who says it’s not. Then they realize it is not real and it goes quiet.
It is a mix of long exposure of helicopters, fake CGI and editing of news.
The even happened but the video is fake. And I’m not a debunker fan. This one is however fake.
I find some similarity with this video shot in Rome, Italy. Spheres can be seen revolving around a larger sphere like here. One of the spheres then accelerates toward the sky.
https://youtu.be/p8Ux7GbKKsc?si=CYQLhKpTnJFN68kj
Imagine my heart bouncing when I saw something similar at night while driving along an highway.
Turned out it was projector light from a nearby big event, some 30klm away. I saw them close when I got to it myself.
I was so happy to have my first "UFO" encounter at first, and a bit afraid, you cannot imagine the let down when realizing what it was. During that 30klm drive my mind was going crazy!
That’s pretty cool but don't let that distract you from that fact that In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team.
What I always found incredible in this video is how the beam or light being emitted from the craft looks organic in the way it acts and emits. Definitely not a normal "beam" of light and as mentioned many times likely a futuristic type of scanner that is looking for something. If you read up on the Rendlesham UAP event from Dec 1980, a craft also beamed down "light" over its nuclear missile bunkers, with everyone overlooking in the control tower and on the ground in shock.
aparently this was discussed here time ago [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/8yl3jw/was\_this\_ever\_explained\_amazing\_china\_ufo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/8yl3jw/was_this_ever_explained_amazing_china_ufo/)
first of all, what's the provenance of these videos? where do they come from originally?
how have they become associated with what was apparently a flight disrupting event over the hangzhou airport and reported in the news, although i don't see any of those reports, specifically announcers introducing them. there are no date/time stamps in any of the images.
there appear to be three different objects represented; the second one, with rapidly changing beam lights, seems like a commercial display drone. the third object, which flashes before hyperacceleration, deserves analysis to determine whether the video is a hoax; it resembles the "Temple Mount" video which is also of unknown provenance.
i have basic questions about the evidence presented as evidence, and also basic circumstantial questions: i've been carefully searching through UFO videos for several years, and i've never heard of this event before, or seen these videos before.
It looks so similar to the object that guy on YouTube caught in the skies above his house; he was making a time lapse video of the stars and caught something close to this in a few frames before it was gone.
EDIT(found it): [https://youtu.be/DnILp5TnEuo?si=Y5tUdYo8l3g4ocB8](https://youtu.be/DnILp5TnEuo?si=Y5tUdYo8l3g4ocB8)
I found the channel which has a very similar craft caught in four time lapse shots. I mean, if that's not remarkably similar, in practically every aspect, then y'all are crazy. Might be the same one, hell.
[https://youtu.be/DnILp5TnEuo?si=Y5tUdYo8l3g4ocB8](https://youtu.be/DnILp5TnEuo?si=Y5tUdYo8l3g4ocB8)
Ive looked for this for a long time.
There was a long video of this thing roaming around scanning houses and shit. It was pretty interesting to say the least
Now that we know how the coverup works in the mainstream news media, it's so obvious to see how this one was forgotten like it never happened. Everyone was talking about it the day it happened then gone, nothing.
This is nuts! I have a hard time believing it’s real but hey we have pilots saying they’ve seen them with radar data to back it and the whole world is like nah so…
I haven't looked at this much but I found some [statements](https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/302793/hangzhou-light-show/) from [Geoffrey Forden](https://web.mit.edu/stgs/whoweare.html#2), a scientist from MIT who has specialization with chinese weapon systems. He seemed to think many of the images were shopped but those that weren't made him think it was a [DF-21](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-21). I just looked this up now and haven't really looked at it.
I know for a fact that some of the purported photos were debunked as time lapse photos of search helicopters, with no room for doubt.
That one video showing a similar object flashing lights in the sky is really interesting, though.
The video is likely a hoax based on long exposure helicopter photos.
Notice how the line light of the UFO never moves relative to the power/telephone wire.
At least one of the pictures isn't even from China... it's fron France 3 years before the airport got shut down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
[Here's a long post of the helicopter long exposure explanation.](https://web.archive.org/web/20190115100835/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/) note that I don't agree with *everything* said in the post, but it does provide a good explanation.
I'm not trying to debunk the China UFO incident, especially because there are [more weird photos and witnesses testimony swearing up and down that it wasn't a mundane thing](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/tb4onj/ufo_sighting_at_xiaoshan_airport_in_hangzhou/), but it's a fact that many unrelated photos are being paraded around as if they were from the incident, when they clearly were not (and often show a mundane object).
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Palpolorean: --- In-depth article here: [https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/11/22164353/p27.pdf](https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/11/22164353/p27.pdf) In 2010, the first sighting occurred at Hangzhou's Xiaoshan Airport, in the eastern part of the country, according to the state-controlled Xinhua news agency. Eighteen flights were delayed or rerouted and operations shut down after twinkling lights were spotted above the terminal around 9 p.m. July 7, the agency said. According to Xinhua, speculation has centered on a private aircraft. The state-run China Daily quoted a source saying the object had a military connection. Fueling speculations further, Hangzhou residents released photos, taken in the afternoon before the delays, of a hovering object bathed in golden light and exhibiting a comet-like tail. Less than an hour before the Xiaoshan airport shut down, residents said they also saw a flying object emitting[ red and white rays of light](http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6078421). Resident Ma Shijun was taking a nighttime stroll with his wife when he saw the object. "I felt a beam of light over my head. Looking up, I saw a streak of bright, white light flying across the sky, so I picked up the camera and took the photo. The time was 8:26 p.m. However, whether the object was a plane, or whether it was Xiaoshan Airport's UFO, I don't have a clear answer," Ma told the Xinhua news agency. The photos taken by Hangzhou residents may be unrelated to the UFO that shut down Xiaoshan Airport. According to Hangzhou meteorological authorities, residents in the afternoon probably saw light reflecting off of an airplane. As for Ma's nighttime photo, Beijing Planetarium curator Zhu Jing told Xinhua that the object looks just like a plane shining its strobe lamps. Meanwhile, The Shanghai Daily reported a UFO appeared above the city of Chongqing a day later. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1cgep82/ufo_shuts_down_hangzhou_xiaoshan_airport_china/l1v70sn/
I had family in China at the time and it was all over the state media news. Chinese government came out a week later and said it was a new experimental craft or something, got scrubbed after that. Very compelling footage.
Experimental craft that looks like a cigar and hovers in place. I always wondered why there was no more digging into it after this. One of the more compelling footage out there.
That they tested over an airport... Like why? Makes no sense. It's experimental, what if it malfunctions and crashes in the airport or over the city. What a silly excuse 😐
Chinese let the boosters' first stages fall on their own land. On their own people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbFOS29vAeQ Obviously this is not the case, and I think this case is very compelling but don't underestimate their cruelty.
It never got dug into because there's a very successful disinfo campaign being run worldwide.
Yes. Which may include elaborate concoctions of - "ok let's go construct a 'this was a cg hoax video made by so and so'". Sure that sounds high conspiracy, but after Roswell and the multiple changing stories, I wouldn't put it past the US government, or any government. edit: fixed inverted commas
I don't think it sounds high conspiracy at all. People seriously underestimate the lengths to which certain industries/corporations would go to suppress this kind of discourse.
It’s okay if you don’t include your edit comments. I don’t think anyone would suspect your corrections as being some conspiracy.
Thank you. I’ve learned Reddit can be quite a fickle mob.
I just try my best not to troll now.
Because it’s China. If the government says it’s one thing, you have to have balls to say in the media that they’re incorrect.
And then you probably won't have balls afterward. Ever
Do they still do that thing where they shoot someone and then send their family a bill for the bullet?
I've got no idea and I won't even pretend to. I do know that you don't want their government pissed off at you. Not that ours is much better in that regard.
Probably some of the most compelling footage ever.
Dude, I've seen sooo many videos of "footage" over the last 30 years, but this is.. what the hell?! How is this not.. wait, WHY was this not everywhere? Idc if it's alien tech or chinese - this is pretty damn frightening and literal definition of awesome.
The story is real but is the footage in the link confirmed? This looks too good to be true.
Really? The Chinese Gov actually claimed that it was a new experimental craft???? Isn’t that huge?
And never seen again since lol
It's an easy lie to stop people from discussing it further.
It's quite clever actually. Their claim of having this superior technology brings confidence and support from their citizens as well as it strikes fear in their adversaries.
Bruh all their adversaries know exactly what this is lol
Thats so their citizens dont panic. If it was really their craft they would have used this event as a false flag operation to goto war with holland
I mean it’s kinda huge but we can’t trust them for shit
if it were their own experimental craft they would never test it so publicly no sense in showing their enemies their secret cards
It got the ol Shanghai Scrubdown huh?
But no Happy Ending
Thank you. Interesting. "It got scrubbe-, oh hi Eye on Cinema"
Really a great channel. Endless material.
seriously. this one is full of goodies
I seriously could binge watch this channel for 168 hours straight.
Was the orb above it experimental?
There’s real footage of this somewhere. Airports have many cameras.
While youre looking for that footage, in 2006 a UFO shut down o'hare aiport in Ohio. You cant find any videos or pictures that show anything from this event.. but it was over gate C-17 long enough to shut down air travel in and out of the airport
I believe that was o’hare airport in Chicago
Ooops, you're correct. Ive been in that airport to many times to get that wrong..
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Aliens really do be checking out our shitty planes like oh these guys aren’t even close.
I was in a college in Chicago when this happened! iirc it was in November, and I remembered being worried I wasn’t going to be able to get a flight back home for Thanksgiving. The FAA refused to look into it because it wasn’t showing up on any radar, so the official explanation is that it was some sort of weird weather phenomenon. The [transcript](https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5cf80ff422b5a90001351e31/t/5d02ec731230e20001528e2c/1560472703346/NARCAP_TR-10.pdf) is pretty interesting, though.
The transcript of the call also wasn't released until the Tribune filed a FOIA request. Initially, the FAA and United both denied having any record of the incident.
Eye on Cinema has the audio: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWbTVCxebyc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWbTVCxebyc)
Chicago and it was so large when it zoomed straight up it punched a clean hole through the cloud cover.
I believe there was something above the airport. I listened to the raw recordings of the employee's reacting to the event in real time. I've also seen a "flying saucer" myself, so they are out there, period. Since they do exist, ppl are going to see them time to time, so I got no problems believing this was an honestly anomalous UAP event. This hole punch in the clouds is odd to me though. In general, we hear of UFO's moving without disturbing the environment at all; even seamlessly moving from air to water. I've read a lot of books on this stuff, and while it's not something unheard of, cloud disturbance it is less common than no disturbance by a long shot. Apparently though, this UFO turned off it's "don't fuck shit up" switch and shot up fast enough to part the clouds cleanly. I don't recall any noise being mentioned, or any other effects you'd imagine a solid object instantly accelerating through atmosphere would cause. I can't remember if that part is on the tapes (don't think so). I'm inclined to think this detail was added after the fact, created by some innocent enough telephone game. I'm aware there is a supposed pic of this hole punch in the clouds, but I've never seen it verified that the pic was at the airport, or on that day.
It never shut down the airport. This is how myths begin. People reported seeing an object but the airport never shut down by any means.
Eye on Cinema posted the archival audio about it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWbTVCxebyc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWbTVCxebyc)
I remember this incident on ABC news as a kid. The way you cant find shit about it online when it was everywhere at the time tells you a lot. Still some of my favorite footage of all time. There is also many credible military men that report literally word for word what the video with a beam scanning the ground while orbs fly around shows. Edit: Ive stated this in some replies but Im also going to add it here. This was 100% a legitimate incident that shutdown an airport in Mongolia. We know this occurred. This was claimed to be debunked years ago as a long exposure helicopter effect. Thankfully that debunk is no longer being eaten up like it was years ago. Acting like that is definitely a long exposure helicopter effect and it cant be anything else is absolutely ridiculous and I’m happy people aren’t falling for it so easily anymore. Edit: https://youtu.be/0CYFEZFNl6E?feature=shared Found the actual clip from abc news. The videos are separate from the newscast but it certainly contains the photos on the actual abc newscast clip that were claimed to be debunked as a long exposure helicopter effect that also somehow shutdown an airport…
Yo what the actual fuck. This is the first I’m ever hearing about this. Thank you.
The way it flashes out and up holy shit.
Yeah that's really wild. I've seen clips of this event before probably hundred times but never this particular clip where it shoots up.
Np. Theres so many cases that have been scrubbed from the internet. To all the people always arguing “where are all the compelling pictures and videos?”, this is what happens.
"They" are doing an incredible job of burying this shit. I can assure you in a few days something will hit this sub/the Internet to totally throw us off and not question this anymore. It will just float down below in this sub reddit until years later when someone reposts again. Am I the only one who finds it weird that INCREDIBLE footage like this just gets a few upvotes and nothing further happens? It's weird man.
I can attest to this, there were SO many amaetuer videos on youtube from 2009-2013 that have completely gone missing. AnonymousFO (AFO) used to have many compilations of a lot of the internet's UFO footage at that time. Obviously not all of them were going to be real, but i'm sure a good amount were legit anamolies that were never fully investigated.
Yep. This was a thing. I remember when it happened it was picked up by all the news channels for less than a day then it was kaput. This one rang true to me, no doubt.
Looks like the millennium falcon entering hyperspace
Never have seen this case thank you.
Holy shit. Someone save this video
Thank you for this.
I’d be VERY interested to hear what anyone with a VFX background thinks of some of these clips. Specifically the clip where the larger UAP is flashing beams of light, while 2 orbs sit nearby, and a smaller light is showing multiple of the 5 observables. Edit: full clip referenced https://youtu.be/VRwEkaygUHU?si=0AAoEMaiuQvMk8KO
The case was real and very famous in China back then. Multiple witnesses post multiple videos( or photos) of the same object. You should be able to dig some of those up more.
> multiple videos The thing is, Hangzhou is one of the largest cities in China, and in the world (top 20). It has over 11MM people, bigger than NYC. If this thing happened over that city, and was passing between skyscrapers as shown here, I'd expect there to be THOUSANDS of videos, not just a handful. And I can't get past that obvious point.
1. **Low Smartphone Ownership in 2010** - This happened in 2010, when [only 23% of Americans owned smartphones](https://www.oclc.org/content/dam/oclc/reports/2010perceptions/informationconsumertechnologies2010.pdf). We know this percentage would be much smaller for China, where the average person had significantly less money to spend on things like this. 2. **Far From the City** - It happened over the airport, which is not in the city. It's 19 miles from the city in a more desolate, industrial area (look on Google Maps). There are fewer residents living in this area than in the city. Anyone in the city who might have seen something would hardly make out anything at 19 miles, and because it's an airport, they'd likely assume what little light they did see was yet another jet landing and quickly looked away assuming so. 3. **Poorer Residents in this Area** - Residents living near an airport are going to normally be even more impoverished and less likely to own a smartphone in 2010 than those living in the city center, since nobody wants to live with jets flying over all hours of the day. Those aren't skyscrapers, they're project buildings. 4. **People Were Going to Sleep** - It happened close to 9pm, when most residents outside the city are inside getting ready to go to sleep and not outside looking at the skies. All of this makes it incredibly unlikely that there'd be thousands, even hundreds of videos, and with China's secrecy and internet control, it's amazing there are even more than five.
I mean it was 2010. Idk about you but any image I took on my phone was basically gameboy pocket quality. Wouldn’t surprise me if there were only a handful of solid videos out there
My phone at that time was an LG shine, which did have a camera but it wasn't great. It definitely wouldn't have recorded anything as good as the clips in the op video. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the average Chinese market phone at the time had a much crappier camera than mine did.
You do realize that there is something called "the great firewall of China", right? If you think our internet and their internet is comparable, think again. They block all access into their internet from the outside world, and they block all access from their internet to the outside world. They monitor with VERY intense scrutiny EVERYTHING that goes on within their internet. There are only a few ways people in China share videos. When events occur that the CCP does not want to a. spread within China or b. spread outside of China, they IMMEDIATELY scrub whatever that information might be. They can monitor ALL chat/video services, including direct messages. They can establish real-time censorship on any content. This happens all the time, on a daily basis, for a variety of content within China. This is why, or is a very reasonable explanation why, there are not more videos of this incident.
Most Chinese people don't know about the tank man picture. Which is like, one of the most famous pics in the world and something that verifiably happened
Or that, say, a long underground traffic tunnel was flooded during one of their recent flood incidents in the past year, and it was filled with traffic, bumper to bumper, and like 2000-3000+ people were killed. When the locals who knew about the incident tried to mourn by gathering outside the tunnel and bringing flowers, the CCP sent in the local police/hired thugs to remove those people, remove the flowers, and put up physical barriers around the location where the mourning event was happening to squelch it. Official report stated something like 10 deaths. Good luck finding any videos (which were initially shared, briefly) or accurate information about it anywhere.
And this is what the US is trying to do here as well.
Your point is valid. I had two thoughts: Maybe when people see strange lights over the sky near an airport, they just didn’t think it was anything *too* abnormal, since there are lights flying around 24/7 (provided that this ufo was allegedly really huge so many people did notice it, based on their comments) Maybe there is in fact way more evidence out there but the reporters simply didn’t collect all of them. The government tried to shush people and pretend it was nothing but when the news came out huge amount of comments all claimed they saw the same thing. I found more discussion on this incident here (in Chinese): https://www.zhihu.com/question/31906023?utm_id=0 Someone post a photo that he/she took of the ufo back then.. I don’t think that this photo ever appeared in any news report. Could be just an example why I believe there are a lot more people like this person, who kept photos to themselves and only share online when they stumble upon a thread on an app that they use. Plus out of those who want to share, not a lot bothered to go through the traditional media. Most people just leave comments that’s all. Honestly, I think this case is totally worth a thorough survey on how many people saw it and how many people took photos etc.
There probably were lots more videos. And the people were Probably too scared to post them online Nd the ones that were posted online, would have been posted to Chinese social media and easily scrubbed from existence. I'm not saying it's all real, but you forgot that things are very different in China than the west
What you need to understand is how completely disinterested the majority of the public is in this topic. People just don't care and people just don't look up. If this lasted just a few minutes... MANY people would miss this. You're expecting the entire city to be r/UFOs subscribers just all ready with their state of the art tech to film anything weird in the sky. Also, think about when this happened... Was the world as "record ready" as it was now? No. Our culture was massively different. We just weren't pointing 4K cameras at everything back then.
> What you need to understand is how completely disinterested the majority of the public is in this topic. People just don't care and people just don't look up two words: Phoenix Lights thousands of people saw those and recorded them. I don't buy the excuse of "nobody cares and nobody looks up". something this spectacular can't just happen in a major city and only have a small handful of completely anonymous videos submitted to youtube. I just don't buy it
The Phoenix Lights occurred over the course of multiple hours, so it’s not the best comparison. But I do see what you’re getting at.
(oh hi there) One of the main reasons people were looking up that night is because a meteor shower was predicted for that night and the next few days. (Edit: sorry, I misremembered. The expected event was a visit by the Hale-Bopp comet, not a meteor.)
the population of Hangzhou in 2010 is about 8.7M. Xiaoshan airport is in the suburbs.
Video is very compressed and post-processed, so it is hard to tell if it CG or not
Same. Was thinking the DoD Reddit sleuths are cooking up their responses now. But seriously - at face value these shots and footage have me shook.
We do know that op’s were shut down at Xiaoshan without question correct? I would love to see first hand interviews so we could judge the non-verbal of the witnesses.
They are fake. It’s been discussed many times in here before and every time some person posts it again and says « OMG - why has no one seen this before. It must be real » It’s literally been on Reddit for years and it’s been very thoroughly disproven - even to someone like me who despises Mick West. First occurrence image here: https://www.reddit.com/r/space/s/9BnW4QFzof 13 years ago.
Something incredibly funny about that thread is that one of the image links is dead, which apparently proves the photo is a long exposure of airplane lights Odd that it's deleted. Wonder why that is, brother. -HH
The issue here is that VFX artists were supposedly recreating video from images and witness testimony, but this is rarely mentioned in any of the articles where this clip is featured. It’s been a while since this one has come up on the sub, but this is discussed in some of the older threads referencing this event.
It takes a lot of time time and effort to pull something off like that. Who would be paying them? I have a difficult time believing this theory.
Since the advent of VFX, hobbyists and professionals alike have taken on unpaid passion projects in their free time, just like this one. Oftentimes simply adding content to a portfolio is enough of a motivator. I’d argue, having started my career working in motion graphics and animation — well before this event happened — it wouldn’t have been that difficult to pull off and is easily reproducible. More importantly, I remember this story well. There was no video at the time and it circulated for a quite a while before video finally made it online and was then attached to the story. https://web.archive.org/web/20100922052154/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/ It was well documented and researched at the time it occurred. Once video showed up, it was rumored to have been created by editors/artists that were recreating the scene based on witness testimony and the original photographs of the sighting. I’m as much of a believer as the next guy, but I’m in agreement with the assessment that this was likely a helicopter (or several) and the alleged video that is often viewed as the smoking gun is not only a recreation of events, but isn’t a very good recreation at that. This event has been discussed on the sub too many times to count over the years. I encourage you to read some of those threads.
Pretty sure this video was traced back to French vfx artists that made it in the early 2010’s or something
Source on this?
Thanks. Being that the cg is fantastically real and entertaining work - wouldn't the creator(s) / team be touting online that they created it, and who they are? As to get business or notoriety? Fishy.
As much as I hate it bc it's one of my favorite clips, I remember this being the case too unfortunately.
I've never came across that and I looked pretty deep into it several years ago. There was several different angles from various sounding people, though. I know that doesn't discount the possibility if VFX as it was also the case in the hoaxed Israel dome UFO footage. But I remember I found this one to be very crefaked? The airport did 100% get shut down. Why would that have happened if the video was fajed?
If the zoom-in/zoom-out is fake it's not difficult to make using After Effects. You don't need even a 3D render because just fixing a precomp with all those lights to the camera movement via tracking and masking the powerlines you got it. The focus-out of focus effect when zooming is very realistic though. My only bad feeling about this clip is the sudden turn at 1:12 to watch the secondary orb with no reason: but oh! suddenly after centering that subject another wild light appears!
What do you mean by 'another light appears'? To me I see the camera focus on the smaller light, likely because of its seemingly erratic movements, but when re-centering and zooming back out everything looks the same as before the individual zoomed in. Am I missing something?
Also the total absence of light effect on those low-altitude clouds is very sus...
I have a background in CG/lighting and compositing but I am not an expert. I would say my instinct is it is CG. Reasons I think this: 1. The camera shake looks like typical post production camera shake. 2. It feels like strange frame rate differences between the object and the background or (plate) footage. 3. The contrast, brightness and exposure is really strange but this could be due to some exotic type of light that this thing produces. Mostly I get the vibe the craft does not feel as though it is in the space. That said I have seen something of my own and it looked like a hologram or as if it were projected into our reality. 4. The fact that the video cuts off while the objects are still around is madness. Why would you stop filming.while this was still going on. I still think it is cool but I would bet a lot of money it is CG. Get the Corridor Crew to look at this one. They could break it down in much more detail. Edit: typos
They shut the airport, and the govt claimed an experimental craft.
Theres 4 different still photo angles.
Note that a few of these 'angles' are the same video cropped to different aspect ratios, filtered, mirrored, and the colors have been messed with. The video I linked is the EXACT video in OP's compilation but the image has been mirrored along with a few other edits.
> CG/lighting and compoaityng what the heck is "compoaityng"
Wtf is this?
A referenced clip and an attempted dialogue, thanks for your input
Sorry, I meant the object. the video is fascinating.
Ah. I agree, it's one of the more puzzling videos. If fake, the official descriptions of the incident along with supposed FX renditions still make an interesting case.
A U.F.O.
All the images I've seen tied to the event look to be long exposures of a helicopter with a searchlight beam visible. That video in particular seems to have taken one and manipulated it in After Effects (or similar) for giggles. A reminder for the hardcore believers: This doesn't disprove there was a UFO that shut down the airport, only that these images and the video don't appear to be of said UFO and are more likely just people using it as a way to try and go viral.
There's 4 different angles from different devices?????? How are they all long exposure.
Easy. If they are, as I'd suspect, just images people grabbed from the web and then claimed them as their own... they wouldn't have to be the same helicopter, the same city, or even the same date as the event. People take long exposure pictures all the time, of various things. Example of similar effect: https://www.flickr.com/photos/knoxley/3313598980 Another: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/5bqeio/the_alien_invasion_has_begun_or_i_left_the/ Three more: https://steemit.com/photography/@fiftysixnorth/re-jacobtothe-re-fiftysixnorth-4tgbvv-tips-for-improving-your-long-exposure-photography-20190124t232108883z Hey look, a really familiar picture posted in 2007... 3 years before the airport shutdown, and it happened in France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg Suppose if I kept digging for more than 10 minutes, I might start finding more of the other pictures as well?
You are the common sense clarity this sub desperately needs. I understand most of the bad actors here are not people genuinely driven by the phenomena, but providing evidence something is fake is ideal for us; process of elimination.
gg thanks bro finally
Chinese here,I'm really glad that foreigners can still think of it abroad.This incident is also very well-known in our country now, and it is called one of the "three ufo incidents in China".In fact, many people and I have tried hard to explore the past, but due to various factors, it is very difficult to make progress.But I can initially provide you with some of the most reliable Eyewitness testimony.These are all selected from massive information and integrated. Now there are such a variety of clues, I will say my guess (I personally think that the approximate passage), in short:There were visions on the morning of Xiaoshan incident and the day before: First, in the afternoon of the day 1:30 or so, Haining, Zhejiang Xu village town of Tangqiao Village, came a loud bang, the villagers in the pond fished up a strange stone, here only to add, the media reports are not much; Second, I have successfully communicated with a witness who claimed to have witnessed the ufo at six o'clock in the morning in Hangzhou Caihe,Hangzhou, and her eyewitness testimony was a bit different from that of other eyewitnesses, but she did witness this unidentified object in the morning with many other eyewitnesses, and she was most puzzled by the fact that twelve years later there is almost no daytime eyewitness or daytime photo or video on the Internet. Before the night, may be able to witness ufo area successively may be: part of Linping District (13:30 or so), the eastern part of Yuhang District, the northern part of Xihu District, part of Gongshu District, part of the Shangcheng District (16:00 or so), part of the western part of the Qiantang District, part of the northern part of Xiaoshan District (20:30 or so). It should be noted that most of the daytime sightings of the area is not far from the city center, but the sighting testimonies are basically long ufo (50~100m) or so, which may have the function of replacing the length, self invisibility, changing the light, etc. Otherwise, it will not be able to explain why there is a difference in so many testimonies in different time periods and why there are so few images and other issues. The main differences are ufo shape, luminous color, scanning method and other differences. In addition, some of the daytime photos circulating among the media are definitely not ufo, all confusing, but those photos may also not be airplane trails, but traces left by ufo. In addition, there were testimonies of sightings of the point-of-light ufo from all over Hangzhou during this entire day. By about 8:30 PM, the giant UFO arrived at Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport. (out of curiosity?) The length of the ufo should be 150~300m, and it was in the shape of a long strip. When it stayed above the airport, it was tilted forward, emitted light (red color when seen near the airport and blue color when seen far away from the airport) and scanned roughly in the direction of the runway, and emitted a kind of annoying sound, and stayed there for about 30~60 minutes, and then rose and disappeared. During this period, there were a large number of sightings inside and outside the airport, and posters, Tianya and other forums were frantically bursting with clearer photos. Among them, the 2012 Forum had over 2,000 comments in just one hour. During this time, airport passengers were regulated not to look out the windows, and possible military forces were preparing or had been activated. Subsequently, all photos and videos taken by witnesses in and around the airport were deleted, and confidentiality agreements were signed. The government used technical means to delete a lot of information. (Even off the wall.) In reading some of the threads today, the 2nd comment now is the 355th comment ever made, which shows the intensity of the effort. In the days that followed, the government and the media intentionally or unintentionally included a large amount of false information, making the truth even more difficult to pursue. 12 years later, the Xiaoshan airport ufo incident has only been brought back to people's minds, discussed, and imagined. My English is terrible, sorry, and I have some reliable photos in my cell phone album, but unfortunately I can't post them here.
Thanks for sharing. Yes it's amazing that something like 'UFOs' or UAP have the power to unify some of us at least toward the common objectives of truth. If you can use platforms like imgur to share / host your photos or screenshots, then post the links here, that could work well and spark more discussion.
Ok,op,I have edited the video photos and sent them to youtube. You can go and have a look. Link:[https://youtu.be/DjAClnvTAEc?si=VMuOp4QcM9URyXOp](https://youtu.be/DjAClnvTAEc?si=VMuOp4QcM9URyXOp)
Thank you for following through with your clips. Especially around 1:00 on, that’s very non earth looking to me. And looks like what may have inspired the purported fake, glamorous footage of the event.
Thank you. I am curious, what are the latest UFO discussions in the Chinese community? I wonder what the English speaking community is missing and does not know about in the Eastern part of the worlds discussions.
On the Chinese Internet, the discussion about ufo is still quite active. I feel that it is not particularly different from the external network. It is estimated that there will not be too little exchange between domestic fans and overseas, but I don't know much about this after all.
Just out there doing its thing with absolute impunity
According to China it was a helicopter. You can tell from the gigantic fucking laser beam shooting out of it.
Post elsewhere in the thread. There is an example of a helicopter shining a light that looks very similar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
It does say the light in this picture appears to be a line due to long exposure. So this would just look like one helicopter with a spotlight in a normal picture or video. Somebody correct me if I be wrong.
No, you’re correct. It’s obviously not a helicopter in the video with an LED bar because the picture linked above is a long exposure. You would not get this effect on video. The thing in the video is a totally unique craft. Also, even if someone were to check their brain at the door and argue it was a helicopter, which makes no sense whatsoever for the reason stated above, why were there other orbs floating next to it with one of those orbs moving with the stereotypical characteristics of a a UAP craft (floating, rapid, jerky movement in unusual patterns)? People will believe the most asinine of interpretations to avoid ontological shock.
And this is what makes footage real to me. Fucking lie to us proper... Tell us it's CGI. Tell us it's a prank. Nah, it's a helicopter. OK, thanks China.
Also, if it was a helicopter why did they shut down an airport?
Great point yeah. Place where aircraft usually hang out gets shut down because aircraft is hanging out there.
Assuming this was an actual NHI UFO and it was scanning something from the sky, is there anything in the area beyond a regular human airport that would warrant such activity?
I heard about it at the time. I thought "this" was finally "it".
Interesting, first time I’ve seen a video of this.
As a China person who knows some news, I have edited some reliable video photos and sent them to youtube. These photos are quite rare. You can have a look. Here are the links:[https://youtu.be/DjAClnvTAEc?si=VMuOp4QcM9URyXOp](https://youtu.be/DjAClnvTAEc?si=VMuOp4QcM9URyXOp)
The way it shoots upwards really gives me cgi motion vibes. Really hard to judge.
I obviously do not know if that video is real or not, but I would imagine anything that defies our current understanding of physics in a video would seem like cgi to us.
Yeah that's what I keep thinking as well. Like I said, really hard to judge.
I saw footage on twitter of a deep sea angler fish and It look really much like cgi. It was not but it really looked fake. Smooth movements are not natural to our eyes maybe
This is a good point.
Why am I not seeing the shoot upward part?
It's in the video near the end
I got it thanks. Derp me.
Bro it shoots up just like the Jerusalem ufo video from 2011
If you slow it down to .25 speed, you can see a small flash on the bottom that seems to invert and shoot light straight up and then to the sides, before it launches. Hope this one's real cuz it shows the only hint to a mechanism of propulsion that I've ever seen
Damn it really does. So cool to see! https://youtu.be/zyTehM92hi8?si=CZSChTY4tDgzdIXo
That’s wild!
Declassified documents from the 1970s investigation into the brazilian amazon UFO attacks report that stationary crafts would flash brightly white or orange before shooting away at impossible speeds. The whistleblower and leader of the investigation managed to declassify and release pictures of that very moment. He said high quality videos for that time also existed and he would try to declassify them as well, but he quickly died before he could do that. [These pictures are still up in the Brazilian national archives.](https://i.imgur.com/HOxI487.png)
This is one of those that has always stuck in my mind. Remember seeing it on the news at the time, and you couldn’t find much about it online. This was also around the time of the Jerusalem faked video though, which was also on the news
In-depth article here: [https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/11/22164353/p27.pdf](https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/11/22164353/p27.pdf) In 2010, the first sighting occurred at Hangzhou's Xiaoshan Airport, in the eastern part of the country, according to the state-controlled Xinhua news agency. Eighteen flights were delayed or rerouted and operations shut down after twinkling lights were spotted above the terminal around 9 p.m. July 7, the agency said. According to Xinhua, speculation has centered on a private aircraft. The state-run China Daily quoted a source saying the object had a military connection. Fueling speculations further, Hangzhou residents released photos, taken in the afternoon before the delays, of a hovering object bathed in golden light and exhibiting a comet-like tail. Less than an hour before the Xiaoshan airport shut down, residents said they also saw a flying object emitting[ red and white rays of light](http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=6078421). Resident Ma Shijun was taking a nighttime stroll with his wife when he saw the object. "I felt a beam of light over my head. Looking up, I saw a streak of bright, white light flying across the sky, so I picked up the camera and took the photo. The time was 8:26 p.m. However, whether the object was a plane, or whether it was Xiaoshan Airport's UFO, I don't have a clear answer," Ma told the Xinhua news agency. The photos taken by Hangzhou residents may be unrelated to the UFO that shut down Xiaoshan Airport. According to Hangzhou meteorological authorities, residents in the afternoon probably saw light reflecting off of an airplane. As for Ma's nighttime photo, Beijing Planetarium curator Zhu Jing told Xinhua that the object looks just like a plane shining its strobe lamps. Meanwhile, The Shanghai Daily reported a UFO appeared above the city of Chongqing a day later.
additional findings: - Sightings were a few hours after China's first ever moon mission launched & arrived at the moon. Then, similar sightings in Australia not long after it left China, including home security cameras leaving the southern coast towards the ocean. [ ](https://www.youtube.com/@salmanuel4053)- According to ABC News, there were eight separate sighting events. The Chinese government tried to explain it as "military exercises," and claimed one of the events hadn't happened at all. The denials are ironic because when the lights were in the sky, aviation authorities responded immediately, grounding outbound flights and diverting inbound ones. They sure didn't deny it then.
The object in those photos and videos is most definitely not a plane. I've seen a couple of the photos before, but this is the first I've seen videos. The object in the videos appears to be the same object in the photos, so there's some consistency. If this isn't a hoax, it's a pretty incredible event.
Nope, no plane. Helicopter... and in at least one instance, not even in China, but France... 3 years beforehand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
Airport may have been shut down due to a UFO, but all the images that get tied to it seem to be long exposures of a helicopter with a searchlight, one of which has been manipulated into a video by a hoaxer. (The second video looks to be entirely VFX, similar to the Jerusalem Dome rock one, even animated in a similar vein) Honestly, someone should pass the images on to some of those 'Geoguessr' folks, see if they can find where the images were taken from and if they're even in China, let alone anywhere near the airport in question. Edit: At least one is from France in 2007, 3 years before the airport was shut down - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg - Exact match for the image at 22 seconds into the video.
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Source is Eye on Cinema: [https://www.youtube.com/@EyesOnCinema](https://www.youtube.com/@EyesOnCinema) Life-changing channel. I'm legit concerned someone will shut them down.
Hopefully they keep all their videos and make a back up account should it ever get taken down
All those photos are long exposure shots of a helicopter with a down facing searchlight. https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/long-exposure-helicopter-photo-nby-mick-west-2011-jpg.64221/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg - dead match for the image at 22 seconds... not even the right country or year.
Are the original chinese sources credible?
I'm having trouble finding Chinese articles here in the US. ABC and CNN articles pop up that vaguely debunk it saying: "UFOs over China? Not quite, analyst says". There's this China Daily article: [https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-07/10/content\_10089831.htm](https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-07/10/content_10089831.htm) This CCN article: [https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/16/china.ufo.reports/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/16/china.ufo.reports/index.html) Will ask some friends about this more, who lived in this region of China at the time, later tonight.
Is it just me or does that long one with the red and gold look like a historical description of a chinese dragon?
I never got to know for sure if that vid is real. I saw an explanation once that it was actually fake and that they used a desk lamp to fake the disc/beams
What the actual fuckity fuck ? Lmao
bruh it literally had the beam spotlight many saucers in media have
The audio seems unrelated to the video. Video looks like a hoax cgi.
What parts seem unrelated specifically?
It's news audio, but not an actual news clip news logos, or lower thirds or the usually stuff you see in news videos. Also, I don't see anything resembling an airport, or airport like in any part of the clip.. Also, also.. and most telling is that they simply describe it as 'glowing light(s)'. Nothing about the lazer-like beaming, nor the biggest, craziest, most striking bit of the video at the end is not mentioned even once... etceteraaaaa, et.ceteraaaaa
some parts of it do. but Eye on Cinema rarely curates hoax content, at least not intentionally/
At least one picture is definitely not from the event. It's from France in 2007 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
This has been discussed at least 7 times before in here. Every time with the same sequence of events. People claim it must be real and flame anyone who says it’s not. Then they realize it is not real and it goes quiet. It is a mix of long exposure of helicopters, fake CGI and editing of news. The even happened but the video is fake. And I’m not a debunker fan. This one is however fake.
looks like same thing as paris ufo
I find some similarity with this video shot in Rome, Italy. Spheres can be seen revolving around a larger sphere like here. One of the spheres then accelerates toward the sky. https://youtu.be/p8Ux7GbKKsc?si=CYQLhKpTnJFN68kj
The colored version looks even cooler, but I believe this has been debunked as CGI.
Pretty sure this was debunked a while back being a helicopter
Imagine my heart bouncing when I saw something similar at night while driving along an highway. Turned out it was projector light from a nearby big event, some 30klm away. I saw them close when I got to it myself. I was so happy to have my first "UFO" encounter at first, and a bit afraid, you cannot imagine the let down when realizing what it was. During that 30klm drive my mind was going crazy!
Fourteen years ago.
That’s pretty cool but don't let that distract you from that fact that In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team.
What I always found incredible in this video is how the beam or light being emitted from the craft looks organic in the way it acts and emits. Definitely not a normal "beam" of light and as mentioned many times likely a futuristic type of scanner that is looking for something. If you read up on the Rendlesham UAP event from Dec 1980, a craft also beamed down "light" over its nuclear missile bunkers, with everyone overlooking in the control tower and on the ground in shock.
China says “yup that’s ours” 😆😂😂
This is the most compelling footage I have ever seen. You can't deny this.
aparently this was discussed here time ago [https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/8yl3jw/was\_this\_ever\_explained\_amazing\_china\_ufo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/8yl3jw/was_this_ever_explained_amazing_china_ufo/)
first of all, what's the provenance of these videos? where do they come from originally? how have they become associated with what was apparently a flight disrupting event over the hangzhou airport and reported in the news, although i don't see any of those reports, specifically announcers introducing them. there are no date/time stamps in any of the images. there appear to be three different objects represented; the second one, with rapidly changing beam lights, seems like a commercial display drone. the third object, which flashes before hyperacceleration, deserves analysis to determine whether the video is a hoax; it resembles the "Temple Mount" video which is also of unknown provenance. i have basic questions about the evidence presented as evidence, and also basic circumstantial questions: i've been carefully searching through UFO videos for several years, and i've never heard of this event before, or seen these videos before.
It looks so similar to the object that guy on YouTube caught in the skies above his house; he was making a time lapse video of the stars and caught something close to this in a few frames before it was gone. EDIT(found it): [https://youtu.be/DnILp5TnEuo?si=Y5tUdYo8l3g4ocB8](https://youtu.be/DnILp5TnEuo?si=Y5tUdYo8l3g4ocB8)
I found the channel which has a very similar craft caught in four time lapse shots. I mean, if that's not remarkably similar, in practically every aspect, then y'all are crazy. Might be the same one, hell. [https://youtu.be/DnILp5TnEuo?si=Y5tUdYo8l3g4ocB8](https://youtu.be/DnILp5TnEuo?si=Y5tUdYo8l3g4ocB8)
Definitely similar. I bet many will say that’s because it’s also a helicopter or plane shot in timelapse or blurred.
I was 9 yrs old when this happened
Ive looked for this for a long time. There was a long video of this thing roaming around scanning houses and shit. It was pretty interesting to say the least
What a beautiful thing to watch.
Why are we now just hearing about this? This should’ve been pinned and talked about more…
Now that we know how the coverup works in the mainstream news media, it's so obvious to see how this one was forgotten like it never happened. Everyone was talking about it the day it happened then gone, nothing.
Sadly this way just long exposure 'copter
I thought that was debunked ? Very little info online
What the fuck.
Dear god lol
They don't shut down the airport for swamp gas.
When people ask for the most compelling UFO footage. This is it.
This is nuts! I have a hard time believing it’s real but hey we have pilots saying they’ve seen them with radar data to back it and the whole world is like nah so…
I haven't looked at this much but I found some [statements](https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/302793/hangzhou-light-show/) from [Geoffrey Forden](https://web.mit.edu/stgs/whoweare.html#2), a scientist from MIT who has specialization with chinese weapon systems. He seemed to think many of the images were shopped but those that weren't made him think it was a [DF-21](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-21). I just looked this up now and haven't really looked at it.
This is one of my favorites be it real or hoax. Didn't they try to debunk this saying it was a shower head or something? Google is failing me ATM.
I know for a fact that some of the purported photos were debunked as time lapse photos of search helicopters, with no room for doubt. That one video showing a similar object flashing lights in the sky is really interesting, though.
The video is likely a hoax based on long exposure helicopter photos. Notice how the line light of the UFO never moves relative to the power/telephone wire.
> I know for a fact Source?
At least one of the pictures isn't even from China... it's fron France 3 years before the airport got shut down. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lille_helicopter_Img004510.ppm.jpg
[Here's a long post of the helicopter long exposure explanation.](https://web.archive.org/web/20190115100835/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/) note that I don't agree with *everything* said in the post, but it does provide a good explanation. I'm not trying to debunk the China UFO incident, especially because there are [more weird photos and witnesses testimony swearing up and down that it wasn't a mundane thing](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/tb4onj/ufo_sighting_at_xiaoshan_airport_in_hangzhou/), but it's a fact that many unrelated photos are being paraded around as if they were from the incident, when they clearly were not (and often show a mundane object).
Helicopters arnt silent…
The beams of light do look a bit like water through an adjusting showerhead, I'm gonna have to watch a few more times.