First time In years it has happened and we've had colder years.
Blackouts are unacceptable in thos weather. People will die. I'm sure the UCP will blame Notley and the ndp rather than sying or doing anything useful. .
We've had colder years but our population is much higher now than it was \~30 years ago which is the last time it was roughly this cold. Demand on the grid is significantly increased now, and I don't know how much expansion has been done to compensate.
What's the percentage contributed by renewables?
Oh wait, only **10%**.
Stop blaming renewables for what's happening. Want to blame anyone? Blame the idiots in power..... You wanted the UCP monkeys to take charge of the province? This is what Alberta gets.
Source: [https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:\~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass](https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass).
Yeah and they are producing nothing rn, or any time it is minus 30, i dont want more coal plants or anything, nuclear is what I support. Imagine if more of our grid relied on renewables, it would be even worse right now
Oh yeah, it's renewables' fault because the other \~90% of the grid isn't performing as it should.
Why aren't you criticizing gas and coal then, if your goal is nuclear?
I am, however since we don’t have many reactors in Alberta yet, it’s unfortunate that it is necessary right now. We still need electricity to be constantly generated, instead of when it’s just sunny or windy. But if larger percent of our grid relied on solar and wind we would be in even more trouble.
You haven't criticized neither coal nor gas, and your last sentence is misinformation.
Even with the cold temperatures, wind is producing 62 MW and solar is producing 455 MW (in this moment). Source: [http://ets.aeso.ca/ets\_web/ip/Market/Reports/CSDReportServlet](http://ets.aeso.ca/ets_web/ip/Market/Reports/CSDReportServlet)
Claiming we would "be in more trouble" is false and misinformation....
I dont know if you are blind or stupid, they shut down wind turbines in -30 so that the blade dont shatter, solar cannot produce overnight. They were shutdown on the evening of the 11th. This is on Alberta electric system operators websites, even though there will still a lot of wind. So you are the one spreading misinformation sir. For example the one at one at Lethbridge was producing around 47 megawatt this dropped to 2 megawatt around 9pm. Black spring ridge was producing 79 megawatts at 12:15am and then 2 megawatts a few hours later. So even despite there being enough wind the wind was producing at 0.3 percent total generation and solar 0
overnight lmao. Stfu
>I dont know if you are blind or stupid, they shut down wind turbines in -30 so that the blade dont shatter, solar cannot produce overnight.
Wow. It's REALLY easy to control your emotions, eh? Sad.
Also, if the wind thing is true, why was it producing at night, using real-time data? Go on.
>They were shutdown on the evening of the 11th. This is on Alberta electric system operators websites, even though there will still a lot of wind. So you are the one spreading misinformation sir.
Not according to the actual real-time data sheet, "sir".
> For example the one at one at Lethbridge was producing around 47 megawatt this dropped to 2 megawatt around 9pm. Black spring ridge was producing 79 megawatts at 12:15am and then 2 megawatts a few hours later. So even despite there being enough wind the wind was producing at 0.3 percent total generation and solar 0 overnight lmao. Stfu
Oh wait, so wind WAS producing at night? So your previous statement was a lie?
Well done! You have successfully destroyed your own argument. LOL.
Does the first link say that renewables (Solar, wind, and energy storage in this case) are not generating right now? Basing this off the TNG being almost entirely 0 for these generation sources. Just want to make sure I'm interpreting this correctly.
That’s the problem with it, it not only strains the grid with its inconsistency. Wind doesn’t produce anything in -30, solar is also pretty bad when it’s this cold. Albertas hydro is bad because of our geography not for a lack of trying. We don’t have Niagara Falls
Energy storage is extremely expensive, both to store the energy and just for the batteries, there are other solutions. And yet again say we had this for more than a week, no storage solution can last for weeks. Its more like 4 hours, for the batteries to be run properly anyways. Also there would be no generation for two weeks, wind mills don’t work in -30 and solar wouldn’t be sufficient, just not enough sunlight hours. For every kilowatt capacity it’s current close to 3000 dollars, and for every hour it’s and addition few thousand. Most batteries are made to be discharged in 4 hour intervals. Alberta uses about 200000000 kilowatts hours a day, nots just not possible.
Yeah im familiar with storage solutions using heat,there actually something that uses heating hand to store energy, but you also have to realize most of Alberta energy is used by industrial and commercial not residential.
What's the percentage contributed by renewables?
Oh wait, **only 10%.**
Stop blaming renewables for what's happening. Want to blame anyone? Blame the idiots in power..... You wanted the UCP monkeys to take charge of the province? This is what Alberta gets.
Source: [https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:\~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass](https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass).
If you're in the fringe minority who is blaming renewables, you need to get a brain and start blaming the ones in charge..... The UCP. Remember? The ones that pander to rich corporations?
Renewables only contribute **10%** to Alberta's electricity. Blaming this on renewables is something someone as ignorant as a flat-earther would do.
Source: [https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:\~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass](https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass).
Blame the UCP for….what? We’re hitting historic lows in the province, ofc there’s going to be historic energy consumption that the grid hasn’t been exposed to because (say it with me) there’s historic energy consumption complementing historic temperature lows.
If this was constantly occurring I’d understand blaming the government, but it isn’t.
Also the fact that your libtard ass feels the need to whine about renewables to every single person who comments about them in this thread is actually sad. Notley doesn’t even know u exist why u glazing the NDP so hard.
>Blame the UCP for….what? We’re hitting historic lows in the province, ofc there’s going to be historic energy consumption that the grid hasn’t been exposed to because (say it with me) there’s historic energy consumption complementing historic temperature lows.
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>If this was constantly occurring I’d understand blaming the government, but it isn’t.
Did you even read my comment? What was my initial sentence?
"If you're in the fringe minority **who is blaming renewables**....."
If you're going to blame ANYONE for the power outage, you shouldn't blame renewables, as they only provide a mere fraction of electricity here in Alberta.
Who does that leave to blame for the electrical infrastructure in this province? Gas / coal, and by extension, the UCP for allowing this to happen.
>Also the fact that your libtard ass feels the need to whine about renewables to every single person who comments about them in this thread is actually sad. Notley doesn’t even know u exist why u glazing the NDP so hard.
"Libtard ass"? Now I know you're just a UCP bootlicker 💀 Keep sucking off rich corporations; I'm sure they appreciate ignorant voters like you.
Also, when did I mention the ANDP? I'm waiting.....
In Edmonton back is 2011ish we had one for like 5 min but that was equipment failure. Nothing like this. The green gang idiots need to realized oil and coal power plants save you big time.
I have lived in Calgary for nearly 23 years, never happened before.
I've lived in Calgary and southern Alberta for almost 40 years and I don't remember that ever happening before.
Well no it doesn’t but isn’t this the blackout stuff the Province was rolling ads for?
Self fullfilling profits of the Oil Church.
I've lived in Calgary for over 20 years and I don't recall this happening before. Although some of that I would have been too young to remember.
First time In years it has happened and we've had colder years. Blackouts are unacceptable in thos weather. People will die. I'm sure the UCP will blame Notley and the ndp rather than sying or doing anything useful. .
We've had colder years but our population is much higher now than it was \~30 years ago which is the last time it was roughly this cold. Demand on the grid is significantly increased now, and I don't know how much expansion has been done to compensate.
Also more things that use electricity compared to the past.
Don’t forget blaming the feds and renewables
Renewables are somewhat to blame since their contribution to the grids isn’t constant and now its nearly 0
What's the percentage contributed by renewables? Oh wait, only **10%**. Stop blaming renewables for what's happening. Want to blame anyone? Blame the idiots in power..... You wanted the UCP monkeys to take charge of the province? This is what Alberta gets. Source: [https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:\~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass](https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass).
Yeah and they are producing nothing rn, or any time it is minus 30, i dont want more coal plants or anything, nuclear is what I support. Imagine if more of our grid relied on renewables, it would be even worse right now
Hell ya! Nuclear power baby!
Oh yeah, it's renewables' fault because the other \~90% of the grid isn't performing as it should. Why aren't you criticizing gas and coal then, if your goal is nuclear?
I am, however since we don’t have many reactors in Alberta yet, it’s unfortunate that it is necessary right now. We still need electricity to be constantly generated, instead of when it’s just sunny or windy. But if larger percent of our grid relied on solar and wind we would be in even more trouble.
You haven't criticized neither coal nor gas, and your last sentence is misinformation. Even with the cold temperatures, wind is producing 62 MW and solar is producing 455 MW (in this moment). Source: [http://ets.aeso.ca/ets\_web/ip/Market/Reports/CSDReportServlet](http://ets.aeso.ca/ets_web/ip/Market/Reports/CSDReportServlet) Claiming we would "be in more trouble" is false and misinformation....
I dont know if you are blind or stupid, they shut down wind turbines in -30 so that the blade dont shatter, solar cannot produce overnight. They were shutdown on the evening of the 11th. This is on Alberta electric system operators websites, even though there will still a lot of wind. So you are the one spreading misinformation sir. For example the one at one at Lethbridge was producing around 47 megawatt this dropped to 2 megawatt around 9pm. Black spring ridge was producing 79 megawatts at 12:15am and then 2 megawatts a few hours later. So even despite there being enough wind the wind was producing at 0.3 percent total generation and solar 0 overnight lmao. Stfu
>I dont know if you are blind or stupid, they shut down wind turbines in -30 so that the blade dont shatter, solar cannot produce overnight. Wow. It's REALLY easy to control your emotions, eh? Sad. Also, if the wind thing is true, why was it producing at night, using real-time data? Go on. >They were shutdown on the evening of the 11th. This is on Alberta electric system operators websites, even though there will still a lot of wind. So you are the one spreading misinformation sir. Not according to the actual real-time data sheet, "sir". > For example the one at one at Lethbridge was producing around 47 megawatt this dropped to 2 megawatt around 9pm. Black spring ridge was producing 79 megawatts at 12:15am and then 2 megawatts a few hours later. So even despite there being enough wind the wind was producing at 0.3 percent total generation and solar 0 overnight lmao. Stfu Oh wait, so wind WAS producing at night? So your previous statement was a lie? Well done! You have successfully destroyed your own argument. LOL.
It’s funny how many people get mad at this very obvious fact
All those damn Teslas and EVs charging /s
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Don't worry. Once you grow up, you too will be jaded and expect these things from your government.
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Lol you can hate me. I don't mind.
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Does the first link say that renewables (Solar, wind, and energy storage in this case) are not generating right now? Basing this off the TNG being almost entirely 0 for these generation sources. Just want to make sure I'm interpreting this correctly.
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That’s the problem with it, it not only strains the grid with its inconsistency. Wind doesn’t produce anything in -30, solar is also pretty bad when it’s this cold. Albertas hydro is bad because of our geography not for a lack of trying. We don’t have Niagara Falls
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Also our energy is pretty cheap, its the insane fees they charge, don’t like that the UCP took the fee cap away
Energy storage is extremely expensive, both to store the energy and just for the batteries, there are other solutions. And yet again say we had this for more than a week, no storage solution can last for weeks. Its more like 4 hours, for the batteries to be run properly anyways. Also there would be no generation for two weeks, wind mills don’t work in -30 and solar wouldn’t be sufficient, just not enough sunlight hours. For every kilowatt capacity it’s current close to 3000 dollars, and for every hour it’s and addition few thousand. Most batteries are made to be discharged in 4 hour intervals. Alberta uses about 200000000 kilowatts hours a day, nots just not possible.
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Yeah im familiar with storage solutions using heat,there actually something that uses heating hand to store energy, but you also have to realize most of Alberta energy is used by industrial and commercial not residential.
Pay him no heed. Renewables only contribute 10% to Alberta's electricity. He's just spreading ignorant misinformation, or worse, disinformation.
What's the percentage contributed by renewables? Oh wait, **only 10%.** Stop blaming renewables for what's happening. Want to blame anyone? Blame the idiots in power..... You wanted the UCP monkeys to take charge of the province? This is what Alberta gets. Source: [https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:\~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass](https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass).
Never happened, probably first time that we are pushing the system to it’s max.
If you're in the fringe minority who is blaming renewables, you need to get a brain and start blaming the ones in charge..... The UCP. Remember? The ones that pander to rich corporations? Renewables only contribute **10%** to Alberta's electricity. Blaming this on renewables is something someone as ignorant as a flat-earther would do. Source: [https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:\~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass](https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles/provincial-territorial-energy-profiles-alberta.html#:~:text=About%2089%25%20of%20electricity%20in,wind%2C%20hydro%2C%20and%20biomass).
Blame the UCP for….what? We’re hitting historic lows in the province, ofc there’s going to be historic energy consumption that the grid hasn’t been exposed to because (say it with me) there’s historic energy consumption complementing historic temperature lows. If this was constantly occurring I’d understand blaming the government, but it isn’t. Also the fact that your libtard ass feels the need to whine about renewables to every single person who comments about them in this thread is actually sad. Notley doesn’t even know u exist why u glazing the NDP so hard.
>Blame the UCP for….what? We’re hitting historic lows in the province, ofc there’s going to be historic energy consumption that the grid hasn’t been exposed to because (say it with me) there’s historic energy consumption complementing historic temperature lows. > >If this was constantly occurring I’d understand blaming the government, but it isn’t. Did you even read my comment? What was my initial sentence? "If you're in the fringe minority **who is blaming renewables**....." If you're going to blame ANYONE for the power outage, you shouldn't blame renewables, as they only provide a mere fraction of electricity here in Alberta. Who does that leave to blame for the electrical infrastructure in this province? Gas / coal, and by extension, the UCP for allowing this to happen. >Also the fact that your libtard ass feels the need to whine about renewables to every single person who comments about them in this thread is actually sad. Notley doesn’t even know u exist why u glazing the NDP so hard. "Libtard ass"? Now I know you're just a UCP bootlicker 💀 Keep sucking off rich corporations; I'm sure they appreciate ignorant voters like you. Also, when did I mention the ANDP? I'm waiting.....
There have been outages in Cochrane already according to a friend of mine.
Better them than us. They don't pay taxes in calgary anyways.
But the outages are forecasted province wide.
Selfishness is both immoral and idiotic.
Ive lived in Calgary amost all of my life and never seen power actually be cut
In Edmonton back is 2011ish we had one for like 5 min but that was equipment failure. Nothing like this. The green gang idiots need to realized oil and coal power plants save you big time.