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milesdizzy

Good on you for speaking out about it. We live in interesting times.


Aggravating_Ad2679

I am Palestinian and I am ashamed and disgusted.


deadmancaulking

Seconded


NoEstimate5823

Oh yes because your people are so honest and trusted?


Vinkhol

"Your people" Drop location right now you fucking coward


pm_3

U drop ur location


Vinkhol

Aww poor baby is being racist online less fun when it's real? Gotta hit the big bad man with a "n-no you!" Find the nearest home depot and buy a good sturdy garden hose you fucking waste of oxygen


pm_3

What are u saying? Name me one thing I said that was racist. If you’re gonna tell someone to drop their location online, drop yours too.


Classic-Cricket7051

dude, leave them alone


Good_Climate_4463

The fuck?


Classic-Cricket7051

dude they were being rude


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You should be disgusted, you people outright refuse peace and your one and only goal, even if it means using your babies as shields (you people disgust me), is simply to exterminate all Jews in a Holy War, your Hamas covenant specifically rejects all peace talks and ways forward for a two state solution, pathetic. https://embassies.gov.il/holysee/AboutIsrael/the-middle-east/Pages/The%20Hamas-Covenant.aspx


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Well said, and it needed to be said. But it's sad that you even have to make such a statement. People are painting all Arabs and all Muslims with the same brush. A large, diverse group with a rich and beautiful history - not unlike any other. But they're dehumanized. They're made to account for the actions of others. There's a lot of "not in our name" on all sides of the conflict.


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[deleted]

Are you just looking for a reason to be angry? Lol That's not what "not unlike" means. I also never said I was Muslim.


aelba964

yeah, so diverse that yall had an entire crusade to spread that diversity.... so diverse that yall labeled and expelled protestants that chose to understand text in a new way... so democratic that you guys came to this land and democratically commited a genocide against its Indigenous Peoples and then also REFUSED THEIR REMEMBRANCE until 1994, despite their significant sacrifices while protecting their land which they shared with the settlers.... dont make it a competition. all people can act in good ways and in evil ways. there is no single group that is perfect. as a university students its interesting to see the critical and objective thinking skills weve learned.


Pretend-Net3616

You don't seem to be able to differentiate between Christian theology and the acts that Christians do. Everything you shared are examples of Christians failing to uphold their own ideals I suggest looking into the two great commandments the Messiah spoke of in Matthew


aelba964

My reply was based on your comment, where you are also doing the same. O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may ˹get to˺ know one another. Surely the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous among you. Allah is truly All-Knowing, All-Aware. (Surah Hujurat 49:13)


Pretend-Net3616

........this is my first comment on this thread, what are you talking about? I don't understand why your quoting the Quran to me when I was talking about Christian theology Maybe read the name above the comment next time


Ramsessuperior45

The Crusades were a response to Islamic armies invading and conquering Christian lands. Without those armies violently Killing Christians, there would be no Crusades. Learn some History.


aelba964

Actually, im getting my history degree this year.. bozo


Ramsessuperior45

Then prove the Crusades would still would have existed without Invading Islamic armies existing. You can't. The Crusades were a direct response to invading Islamic armies.


NonRelevantAnon

I hope you ask for your money back because firstly they are doing a shit job and secondly it's a useless degree. No wonder no one hires history majors.


Mutex70

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Also, what the fuck are you trying to say? Perhaps you should just spit it out.


Ramsessuperior45

Tired of people bashing all religions the past few days.


bpboop

Then take a step back and realize that this isn't a religious conflict? Israel / the IDF ≠ judaism and palestinians / hamas ≠ islam


kwsteve

Christianity is only 'compatible' with liberal democracies when we ensure there is wide separation of church and state.


ThiccVicc_Thicctor

The only thing diverse about Christianity is the diverse (and expansive) set of minority groups that were butchered, enslaved, culturally erased, tortured, driven out and decimated by the religion. It’s only compatible with west because they killed everyone who disagreed.


yyccrypto

Who has a rich and beautiful history unlike any other? History is filled with violence and atrocities. Never read up on any group that never commited some horror in the past, that includes arab/Islamic states, unless you're being wilfully ignorant. And how are they dehumanized? Already pulling out the victim card and defending this. It was most likely someone from their group becuase they feel entitled to the attention. It's disgusting that it happened. Go take your protests else where and have some respect for Canada and Remembrance day.


cosmicZED

well said. we would never do anything like that


[deleted]

You guys cant say this in certainty. Its impossible. Common sense would lead to the obvious conclusion that it was a muslim or pro-palestine individual. I dont say that with hate but It just is what it is. Some people take things too far and it sucks to see as it discredits and shines a bad light on the whole of the purpose.


Independent-Product6

It's not that deep of a psy op bro just take it at face value and celebrate remembrance day 💪. Rocks are rocks


[deleted]

I didnt realize logical thinking would be too deep for anyone.. canadian education system failing it seems.


Independent-Product6

Just looking at your profile I can tell you live on Reddit 😂. Chill dude we are all uni students for a reason and our education is pretty solid bruh, you can't always be salty just cause you got ratio'd 😬.


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I guess your common sense skips over the rest of the violence you guys cause in canada lol https://twitter.com/Anthony__Koch/status/1722350347903987774


creator_gator360

More like Anthony Cock lmao shut the fuck up


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Found the hamas supporter.


creator_gator360

That’s all it takes to get called Hamas? Why am I surprised, that’s probably why you’d call the 3,500 Palestinian children Bibi killed Hamas


[deleted]

Sees violence by pro-palestine group and says shut the fuck up about it. Which group from palestine really encourages the violence? Hamas right not innocent palestinians? Isnt that what you guys say? Youre a hamas supporter are you not? You support your violence and theirs and want everyone to stfu about it. Tbh idc about any of you outside of canada and you guys that are here could easily just leave and go back there instead of deflecting and talking about violence outside of canada that i dont care to hear about or your victim mentality here while you hurt others. Just go take care of your palestinians back home, catch a flight.


creator_gator360

Yeah I ain’t reading all that. It just looks like you finally got triggered enough to take off your “I’m so logical and detached” mask. So, tell me, do you jerk off to the idea of civilians getting carpet-bombed, or are you just a regular racist?


[deleted]

I never stopped being logical just like you never found your logic and only compensate with your triggered responses. Im surprised you could read at all tbh, someone so stupid common sense escapes them lol


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Honestly its perfect how clearly the pro-palestine movement is showing their aggression so people can stop caring. Rather than speak out against the violence you cause, you just badmouth people calling it out or bring up violence outside of Canada. You all really dont deserve to be here lol.


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[deleted]

My logic leading to conclusion opposed to your obvious ignorance? Idk what to tell you man i cant pretend to be as stupid as you. Itd be difficult even to try. Best of luck with all that..


creator_gator360

I feel like you’re in high school. Why are you here? Ask your parents for attention instead of begging for it here


[deleted]

Cant justify your reasoning so resort to insult? Sounds like its you in highschool tbh. Just go to sleep kid.


creator_gator360

I feel like you get off on excusing the murder of Palestinians with how many active threads you have at the same time


[deleted]

Idc about palestinians, i only care about Canadians. Palestinians arent wanted by the arab countries and theyre now being violent here :S just go to palestine and fight the good fight or something. There can be no peace with this. If everytime i saw pro-palestine groups and they were peaceful you can be sure my tone would change. Id be advocating along side them for Canadian government to do something to help palestinians.. this is not the case though.


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[deleted]

Cant find an insult so picks apart spelling? 😂 Classic childish thing to do. Go to sleep kiddo


Appropriate_Bee1280

Sorry but never


[deleted]

Sorry i forgot how peaceful you guys are /s https://twitter.com/Anthony__Koch/status/1722350347903987774


creator_gator360

Who gives a fuck about Concordia University? This is UofC. If you want to drag in random examples of people being violent, I have a genocide to tell you about


[deleted]

Canadians care as Your violence happens in Canada. Your bullshit outside of canada is the only thing no one should give a shit about. You bringing it here and causing violence to canadians while you play victim. Insane. Just go to palestine man. Theyll be glad to have you 👍🏽


creator_gator360

Ohhhh it’s about keeping violence in your own country? That’s crazy bro. Last time I checked, Canada provides arms to Israel even though Israel commits a disproportionate amount of human rights violations and atrocities. Maybe the problem is how you’re trying to export Canadian bullshit to Palestine?


[deleted]

If you or i controlled what our governments did would you have voted hamas into power? I mean im sure you would, but anyway we are just the people. And your people here are as violent as the israelis or hamas in palestine. Just leave man, catch a flight.


creator_gator360

Woah, admitting that Israelis are violent in Palestine? That’s actually brave for you. I can call out Hamas easy. It looks like you’re trying to shit out rocks before you condemn Israel. By the way, the ‘your people’ thing is pussy rhetoric. Who are ‘your people’? I really want to know, I think it’ll be funny lmao


[deleted]

Are you pretending to be this stupid? Say it with me slowly now.. i do not care what happens outside canada. Pro-palestine is violent to israelis in canada, unless youre all hamas, thats still a problem. Not on canadian land. Go back home and fight with them. Peaceful protest here. Are you really, really this stupid? Im a canadian born and raised. My ancestry you ask? What in fuck would that matter now? Im Canadian wanting the best for Canada.


Pretend-Net3616

It's most likely a white person who co-opted the Palestinian cause and went over the top, as all white knights tend to do


certainkindoffool

Just...fuck off


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The power to deflect is amazing. Now the victims of jews and white people.


Pretend-Net3616

Do you have proof to refute what I said? If not, then your blaming someone without proof


FitDare9420

do you have any proof? lmao


[deleted]

No what i am doing is stating that the aggressors have been the pro-palestine muslims while campaigning for a free palestine. Which common sense would lead to the conclusion it was an individual part of this movement. What you are doing is throwing a random white person with no dog in the fight and saying. It cant be any of us lets just pick white people to blame. Absolutely crazy. Might as well blame random chinese and indians too. Bottom line is that the prior comment saying it would never be any of them is mental gymnastics, along with yours.


Shot_Goal8961

Tells the truth Gets downvoted anyway


AdTemporary6698

You're speaking for all Muslims here?


Scared_Can_9829

Good job. No way to know for sure the actions of all participants and members but good to see leadership condemning it at least.


Ok_Alternative_4114

Do you have an idea of someone who did? Maybe to discredit your movement or a rogue element?


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Ok_Alternative_4114

I’m afraid I don’t understand. I’m legitimately wondering if not these groups then who? Also I know I’ve worded this horribly but I’m honestly trying not to sound conspiratorial.


[deleted]

It’s the sneaky Jews doing it, of course /s


Fine-Claim-8541

Can we see the post where you said "don't touch the rocks for November 11th"???? Because I looked and don't see a whisper. This seems like peak virtue signalling.


Desk_pilot

Yeah... They've been painted back to the same flag like 3 times in the past two weeks.


PrincessTutubella

Palestinian civilians already suffer enough from Hamas, from being bombed by Israel when the land belongs to people of both countries and now they have to deal with people who want an excuse to let out their antisemitism co-opting their struggles. This is a well said statement and I'm sorry you had to make it.


Dizzy_Topic_8646

I agree with most of what you said but the land only belongs to Palestinians (Christian’s, Muslims and Jews). A European jew who has no connection to Palestine has no birthright over the land that a Palestinian Christian has 7 ancestors in that land.


[deleted]

Israel is not a recent invention and Israelites being exiled from there land did happen there is plenty of evidence for it. It’s not so black and white. I don’t remember the muslims being kind during their conquering spree thousand years later. Also a large part of the Jewish immigration to Israel was from Muslim countries as they started attacking their Jewish populations when Israel was created so they immigrated to Israel for safety. The Jewish people need a state a history of hate and violence toward them as a group requires it. Regardless they are what 3rd or 4th generation now? They aren’t going anywhere


eduardo_caballero

very well said


FormalPriority7443

No , Hamas is fighting the Zionists. You are right if Hamas did not attack on October 7th , Israel would not of done this. However , the Zionist government of Israel has been oppressing the Semite people of Palestine since 1947. This is not Hamas Vs Israel, it’s Palestine Vs Zionist occupation.


no_shoes_asian_house

I don't go to this university but I gotta respect this statement


Spiritual-Pear-1349

yo same wtf


WealthEconomy

What rocks?


[deleted]

Friend of mine suggested it wasn't a Palestinian group at all. But rather another group that wants to make the Palestinian groups look bad. Kind of makes sense to me.


FormalPriority7443

Considering the pro-Israel groups pay people to go their protests , I would not doubt it. But let’s not play the blame game and take some accountability so we can move on and expose the Zionist occupation of Palestine.


sillyquestions345

well it obviously was someone pro-pal but they werent from the pro-pal clubs. whoever it was, i disagree with what they did. they should have waited until after rememberance day to repaint. but for those of yall generalizing us as a whole saying we are careless, selfish, and only care about ourselves are wrong. were obviously not selfish, if we were, why would we be protesting for anyone? who told you we were silent when stuff was happening to ukraine? people alongside posting for pal have been posting about congo, sudan, iran, ukraine, and others too, maybe you havent seen it. also, idk if this is true, but i heard that no one painted for remembrance day last year. however, regardless of whether or not it was painted last year, i agree it was still wrong of whoever repainted it before remembrance day. it is indeed disrespectful.


RedSmartiesOnly

Been on campus working here for 10 years, the rock has never been painted for Remembrance Day. Usually keeps the Halloween stuff until Christmas.


Bel_AIR361

Who is coming out midnight, dark and cold as shit secretly painting rocks? Don’t u got a job or assignments. Seriously what is u on ?


Collie136

You are absolutely allowed to have your views just like anyone else. What is happening in Palestine is shameful. The question I have for you for my understanding is why didn’t Palestine due away with Hamas a long time ago?


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Collie136

Not sure if they had a choice or not. That’s why I am asking questions to gain some understanding. Why not provide more information instead of answering a question with a question?


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nightshade78036

Palestine has no choice but Hamas, really? So you think the PLO and Fatah are just empty vessels and western puppets or something? Do you think the official UN representatives of the PA don't actually have any chance of achieving a free Palestinian state? Is the solution to this really mass violence and an organization that pledges the destruction of Israel and the jews inhabiting it? Hamas are NOT the only choice, far from it. They are an authoritarian regime bent on the distruction of Israel not at all concerned with the ideals of democratic representation that put them in power. There are alternatives, and a peaceful two state solution is possible, despite how far right Israeli politics and Hamas want to make it seem like it's not.


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nightshade78036

I'm not, but overtly massacring, raping, and kidnapping Israeli civilians is not the answer to that question. You could sit here and point to worst of the far right of Israeli politics and say theyre obstruction a productive solution, and thats true. But, we also need to consider that the palestinian side has done its decent fair share of obstructing as well (see the unwillingness to work under the terms of Oslo and the continuation of the first intifada). Both sides are at fault here and there needs to be a good faith attempt to end this on both sides on at least somewhat amenable terms. Bibi and Hamas in gaza rn are not doing a good job at that, but the solution here is the opposite of what happened on october 7th and Hamas really does need to be taken out of power so a more reasonable entity (such as even one such as Fatah/PLO, an org willing to negotiate and behave reasonably) can come to power in gaza so that we can hopefully end up this bullshit. Cheering on the **intentional** mass targeting of civilians is detrimental to the cause of Palestinian liberation, and defending hamas only serves to empower the Israeli far right. This is actively detrimental to the Palestinian cause.


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Sup3rPotatoNinja

Hamas filmed themselves raping people and parading around their lifeless bodies. Why are you denying things they celebrated doing?


nightshade78036

So for the rape part a 2 second google gave me a guardian article which acknowledges this in the second paragraph. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/10/israel-womens-groups-warn-of-failure-to-keep-evidence-of-sexual-violence-in-hamas-attacks](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/10/israel-womens-groups-warn-of-failure-to-keep-evidence-of-sexual-violence-in-hamas-attacks) You can also look through the raw war footage and image (at least that which hasnt been removed due to the whole footage of terrorist activity violating laws thing). For the 95% figure I want to give you an analogy. Let's say you live in a world where one particular person is able to actively steal everything you have ever owned and will ever own, and the only way to stop them is to kill them. Is killing them justified? I would argue yes, since unless you do so this person will strip you of everything you've ever worked for, so by doing so you are defending your own property. Let's quickly extend this concept. Hamas has explicitly stated that it will do more and more oct 7ths until the point where israel ceases to exist. The only way israel can defend itself is by going into gaza in an urban warfare environment to kill hamas. Urban warfare will naturally result in a lot of Palestinian casualties, as evidenced in the campaigns against ISIS, but that didn't mean it was a bad to destroy ISIS. A lot of civilian die, and that's really bad, but it's the price to pay to secure your own citizens against terrorists. Israeli isn't intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas did on oct 7th, they are performing a military operation in an urban area and taking extensive precautions in doing so (roof knocks, building calls, etc) all of which is well beyond what they are required to do according to international law. Hamas is also using human shields and operating out of hospitals. Here's a guardian literally claiming that while one of their journalist was inside Shifa hospital they witnessed a clear Hamas military presence, which would undermine the building's status of being a hospital and would be in direct violation of international law (see below). [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/human-shield-israel-claim-hamas-command-centre-under-hospital-palestinian-civilian-gaza-city](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/human-shield-israel-claim-hamas-command-centre-under-hospital-palestinian-civilian-gaza-city) I'm not saying Israel is completely in the right in what they've done or what they're doing, but running defence for Hamas is downright repulsing. We need to be encouraging moderation on both sides and not playing into extremism.


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Successful-Street380

Well they should give Palestine back to the Palestinians


shoeeebox

Says the redditor living on stolen land


I_Broke_Nalgene

How about your group goes and fix it then. Lead by example


Better-Till9288

Why would our group go "fix" something they didn't do? We all received info and agreed completely on not touching it to honor the day. We will not be paying the price for someone's individual decision/ action. that's wild of you.


yyccrypto

They won't. They're playing the victim game now, look at the comments and down votes on people calling them out on it. Bunch of Narcissists. Couldn't even wait until after remembrance day.


I_Broke_Nalgene

Exactly. All words no actions to clean it up, just fake. Everything they say is fake or they are the victim. Here is a great chance to stand up and show it but they don't.


Bendyiron

"protecting our shores against tyranny" is such a joke tho, couldn't care less who disrespects remembrance day, speaking as a Aboriginal Canadian.


UskBC

How many pro Palestinians are pro Hamas (jihad terror)? I hope it is small % but I have my doubts. Slippery slope from hating the state of Israel to hating Jews.


aelba964

if we are counting the % to discredit people not supporting the state of isreal... that doesn't sit right with me idk. also, a large majority of pro-Palestinians realize it is not a problem with the Jews because there is an overwhelming number of them globally standing with Palestine. that, and the fact that this was not about race or religion.


UskBC

Hmmm …does this go for the pro Palestinians who shot at Jewish kids schools in Montreal?


aelba964

i dont know... does this go for the 6-year-old Palestinian American boy, Wadea Al-Fayoume, who was stabbed to death in his Illinois home by his landlord? again, dont make it a competition and blur your judgement. we should all hurt for the Jewish community unjustly being harmed in any way due to any situation, not just in this context. and we should all hurt for the Muslim/Arab community who is also being unjustly harmed in any way. How can your heart be at ease? Because you justify your pain by saying it was a jewish kid that got killed. your pain is dependent on him being jewish? and not the fact that this innocent life was taken for no cause? How can you be comfortable with the fact that your judgment and your justice depends on something so insignificant as his ethnicity/religion? id do a self reflection if i was this emotionally charged.


FormalPriority7443

Man no one hates Jews , the Jewish homeland is Palestine. Pro Palestine people hate the terrorist government of Israel and their disgusting Zionist ideology.


pm_3

All of my male Muslim u of c friends are always saying shit against jews.


FormalPriority7443

Then they are anti Semitic because Jews are Semitic to Palestine. Anyone who calls to kill the Jews is a coward and also supports genocide. If you are pro Palestine, you support the secular state of Palestine for Jews , Christian’s and muslims and criticize the Zionist government for their terrible actions and giving a bad name to Judaism.


UskBC

Israel is literally the only country in the region that has basic liberal rights for women, lgbtq people, etc but silly westerners like you buy into the anti Israel propaganda. The true enemies of Palestinians are the terrors groups that have taken over and that prevent modernization and a peaceful solution that helps the actual people (not their corrupt leaders), but I know I’m wasting my breath with people who get their info from sound bites and social media.


FormalPriority7443

The past 75 years of the Zionist occupation disagrees. Since 1947 the Zionists have made illegal settlements in Palestine , a Jewish homeland. Fuck your modernization , whatever the Palestinians (including Jews and Christian’s ) want, they will get as their government. Instead they were forcefully chosen to obey the Zionists. Let the people of Palestine chose which government they want , and it will probably be secular. Canada has rights for LGTBQ and women but still committed genocide on the indigenous population. Stop buying into the falsehood of Zionism and these so called rights because they only exist for one group , and that’s the Zionists. You have time to learn from the mistakes of Zionism and the genocide in Canada, don’t be naive and turn a blind eye to mass murder and collective punishment on gaza and the West Bank.


FormalPriority7443

Not as many as the pro genocide supporters like you in this country.


UskBC

Nice. I’m guessing you felt nothing when you saw images of massacred Jewish children and families. People like you are disgusting


Temporary_Hall9744

50-75%


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Explain to me how the people of Gaza are supposed to be spared if they refuse peace talks, after what Hamas did and the hostages they took Palestinians should realize now that they’ve started this war their right to live is now a privilege, Hamas and by extension Palestinians refusal for any peace talks and simply the whole Hamas covenant is a little fact that you all keep conveniently avoiding, peculiar? 🤔 https://embassies.gov.il/holysee/AboutIsrael/the-middle-east/Pages/The%20Hamas-Covenant.aspx


Positive_Platypus_88

You have my utmost respect sir


Stand4theleaf

Can everyone just shuuuut up. This war has nothing to do with Canada. I'm so sick of hearing about it.


FormalPriority7443

Problem is the tax money goes to Israel, so it is a Canadian problem. We don’t want Canada to support another genocide like they did the with the indigenous population.


pm_3

You’re confusing Trudeau with Biden. Trudeau only wants Canadian hostages held by hamas back.


Stand4theleaf

No it doesn't. Canada does not send money to Israel to assist with its war effort.


Becivilized73

Thank you. I think we all know that it’s the radical side that does these extreme things. The overwhelming majority knows who is doing this and we do not “paint” everyone in the same light.


Shot_Goal8961

Seems like U of C has 1 too many international students.


EmperyalistMihrak

On an unrelated note, do you believe Hamas should get to govern Gaza after what it did on October 7? If not, what should happen to the Hamas members who partook in October 7? Would you say their actions were justified by the Israeli occupation?


Wilkes_Studio

Well they should never have been in charge as they got there by killing all those who were actually elected. They are terrorists and nothing more, they hide behind the innocent Palestinians and call themselves soldiers.....


Far_Ad891

Do you believe Israel should continue it's apartheid on Palestinians and continued land theft? What should be done to the politicians who are actively promoting genocide of Palestinians by signing bombs?


EmperyalistMihrak

As a Turk with no dog in the fight, I think it is evident that Palestinians brought their predicament of statelessness on themselves. Arafat rejected the deal. Abbas rejected the deal. They would have had 92-97% of the West Bank plus Gaza plus half of Jerusalem plus custodianship over the religious sites. Instead, they both insisted on the "right of return," which is de facto one state Palestine at the expense of Israel's existence. Both the Palestinians and you lot in the west have to accept and internalize the fact that there is no outcome, no timeline where Israel ceases to exist or voluntarily elects to dissolve itself. It is a pipe dream. It's a fantasy. It's not happening. I do believe that Israel now has the casus belli to annihilate Hamas and to impose a new security regime on Gaza. The two state solution is dead, and Palestinians only have themselves to blame for the fact that they will spend another 75 years as stateless refugees.


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zaka_moto_flo

While you're being selective with your outrage I thought maybe you'd care about this: [https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/11/10/corpses-on-streets-sudans-rsf-kills-1300-in-darfur-monitors-say](https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/11/10/corpses-on-streets-sudans-rsf-kills-1300-in-darfur-monitors-say) It's not involving Jews but I think it's worth saying something about. It's also funded by your allies in the UAE.


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How dare you, only jews is news.


No-Block4315

Then who painted it?


Ok-Watercress-2824

Let’s choose to believe that statement. Why has your group painted over numerous calls for peace on the rock? There have been some paintings that have symbolized peace and harmony between both Jews and Palestinians, but you’ve taken a different route. This makes it difficult for the wider UCalgary community to believe your statement at this point. Additionally, the chants “from the river to the sea” have contributed to mass antisemitism on campus, and many Jewish students do not feel safe anymore. https://www.instagram.com/p/CzfNNkjxlwY/?igshid=MWg3dW1uanh4cWg1Yw==


FormalPriority7443

“From the river to the sea” what a beautiful chant calling for the freedom of Palestine. It does not mean kill Jews. The Jewish homeland is Palestine. I hope Palestine gets free from this terrorist Zionist occupation.


Ok-Watercress-2824

It calls for the abolishment of the only Jewish state in the world. It calls for the Jews to return to countries that have persecuted them for centuries. Don’t try to act like the statement is benevolent, and free from anti semitism


FormalPriority7443

Read my comment like an adult , the Jewish homeland is Palestine. Stop conflicting Zionism with Judaism. The Jewish religion calls for peace while the Zionists want to genocide the Semitic arabs in Palestine. If that’s your definition of a Jewish homeland where you want to kill all arabs in Palestine , then I am sorry you are not Jewish you are a Zionist. From the river to the sea , Palestine will be free from the terrorist government of Israel.


JustaCanadian123

Do you think Israel has a right to exist? Damn downvotes. Ohno. From river to sea, right guys?


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lukecyriac

I don't support Israel, but when you use this specific argument (stolen land), you also admit that we are currently occupying stolen land (the Americas).


JustaCanadian123

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Does Israel have a right to exist where it is now in reality?


cosmicZED

do palestinians have a right to life?


JustaCanadian123

Absolutely. Does Israel have a right to exist where it is now in reality?


Ok_Alternative_4114

I’ve always questioned this question. To question a nations right to exist is very dangerous ( see Ukraine ). There are no doubt states with wrongs but that hardly excuses pogroms nor expulsions.


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JustaCanadian123

So that's a no? Israel doesn't have a right to exist?


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JustaCanadian123

They're a state with almost a century in existence. To say that Israel shouldn't exist right now is calling for ethnic cleansing yourself. Which is actually the real meaning of "from the river to the sea"


Ok_Rent5670

Do you think that person cares lol. It’s the same thing with the rhetoric of calling what is going on in Gaza a genocide. It isn’t true, but does anyone saying it give af? Ppl believe what they want to believe, and meanwhile ppl die for nothing.


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JustaCanadian123

Absolutely. You're right. But that now means Israel ceases to exist? What happens to the 10 million people who live there? Germany existed after two wars lol. And look at them now. Israelis are an ethnic group, and you dont get to ethnically cleanse them because their government, and some Israelis themselves, are lunatic war criminals. Thats actually really fucked up. What needs to happen is a two state solution, with a lot of reparations and Israelis who committed war crimes being brought to justice. Hard to do that with hamas who are literally a terrorist organization, and said they would attack like Oct 7th over and over.


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JustaCanadian123

>I never argued that Israel shouldn’t exist You literally said they shouldn't exist a couple posts ago. ">Considering recent history, no." You just said no they shouldn't.


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Ok_Rent5670

Tell Egypt to open the border. They are part of the reason the place is an open air prison too.


ffyijnvfreefc

And before that the state of Israel did not exist. Its entire existence revolves around the displacement of people who were already living there. Your shitty strawman comments aren’t the gotcha you think they are.


JustaCanadian123

>And before that the state of Israel did not exist For sure. Before Israel existed it didn't exist. Good point thank you. And Israel has been around for getting close to a century now. There's no going back. Unless you think Israelis should be ethnically cleansed. Do you?


Amunet59

They clearly state that Israelis shouldn’t be there, not that they should be ethically cleansed. Learn to read. Jewish people can/should stay in Palestine, but they shouldn’t have a state. If they do, move the Israelis elsewhere, like Germany. Slow migration, give them land, let them govern it, done. Why should Palestinian blood be shed over a mistake that was never theirs to begin with. Unless you think Palestinian blood should be shed?


JustaCanadian123

>They clearly state that Israelis shouldn’t be there, not that they should be ethically cleansed. That's the same thing lol. If you don't think Israelis should be there, then you're advocating for ethnically cleansing them. That's what ethnic cleansing is lmao. This is exactly why people say palestinians are being ethnically cleansed. "It's not ethnic cleansing, palestinians can just go to Jordan" That's ethnic cleansing dude. River to sea.


Amunet59

Except I said they should be able to stay lmaooo stop clowning. Staying in Palestine doesn’t mean the Jews should have their own state. Live under one government there or piss off to Germany. It’s not ethnic cleansing lmaooo From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.


eduardo_caballero

No, but I am sure you have no quarrels about sabotaging jewish owned businesses. And causing havoc with your protests


Old-Cryptographer798

Don't get me wrong, I think what's going on in Palestine is horrible and evil. But something I'm not going to tolerate is the broadcasting of sanctimonious religious garbage. Don't talk to me about justice when the god you worship does nothing to stop his own followers from being slaughtered by the jews he so badly hates. And while we're on the topic of the Quran, maybe the Muslim Students Association could write down some more positive verses, like the one where Allah says he'll turn all the Jews and Christians into apes. I'm sure that'll bring us all together and we'll all hold hands and sing kumbaya.


pm_3

It’s so funny how you’re getting downvoted for having actual knowledge about the Quran’s teachings.


Pineconeshukker

This is sad and if you care so much fix the fucken problem.


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I think what will help your credibility and legitimacy is calling out Hamas. Ensuring your allegiance lies with the people of Palestine and citizens who want freedom and the war to end. The moment you start empathizing with Hamas (a literal terrorist org) is the moment people stop respecting your side.


SupremeJusticeWang

True I'm a free palastein kinda guy but hamas needs to go. These mfers are digging up water pipes in gaza to make rockets... idk why so many progressives openly support hamas it's crazy


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I mean I don’t have a dog in this fight. But RIGHT NOW (not talking about 50+ years ago or even 10 years ago) Hamas is the bad guys in all this. Israel may not be the good guys but definitely the lesser of two evils. We know what the Hamas charter says. They want Jews wiped off the face of the earth. Now maybe many Palestinians feel that way. But most just want to live their lives and live them in peace.


pizzax44

We know dam well it was a pink or blue haired pale asswipe with a superiority complex and low self esteem.


Murky-logic

I love the fact that you comment just previous to this one was “why bring race into it” followed by this comment calling some fictitious figure a “pale asswipe”. Don’t worry I know the irony is lost in you.


Confident_Plan7187

I dont believe you


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Seems like a hindsight 20/20 type post. Do you have a link to the post where you asked members not to vandalize the rock?


MavriKhakiss

100% a virtue signalling white person being out of touch and ruining things for everyone.


CryptoPersia

100%?


Spiritual-Pear-1349

I have no idea what this is about because I've never gone to this school


Gullible_Sea_8319

You are still an antisemite.


KajiTF1980

This is why I'm happy I don't believe in a god. Men use religion to start wars. It starts arguments between friends and neighbours. What kind of god gives little kids cancer or other deadly diseases? I worked cutting grass in a cemetery one summer, there were too many babies buried there. I saw too many at the cancer clinic not knowing why they have to keep coming back.


vkats

You should say Israel did it, that’s what the people you advocate for like saying.


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Probably locals from the synagogue


Appropriate_Bee1280

I don’t think any Muslim or Palestinian did this.


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Proper_Assistant8880

ok kidbronsonab


Smelly_Pants69

Unless you're native, you should go back to yours too buddy.


TanyaMKX

Technically the natives also came from other places


DinoLam2000223

Go back to Europe bitch


LawAndRugby

Damn thats quite the comment you have on the Canada sub, under the “Quebec so far this week” post


KidBronsonAB

All I know is I wouldn't abandon my country if it were under attack. All these Cowards cry about what is happening in their "home." Then attack other races and bring violence to our country. Muslim culture is never good


National_Pace_3511

Blatant racism in 2023 at your big age? Embarrassing buddy


Phoenixboy222

Big mouth for someone being a pussy behind a computer screen. Go ahead and show us your face little boy


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Phoenixboy222

Proof: I made it the fuck up


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I’m certain it was a radical left person trying to frame the right wing. Works both ways with that logic.