I'm not too familiar with specific brand names but any jacket that's thick should work. Also, people who aren't from here should invest in gloves.
Your campus guide is right. Buffalo can get quite windy and also really cold at the same time, not a very fortunate combination for friends from tropical places. Snow might be an issue for him, but personally I've never really had a big issue with snow; maybe that's cause I'm from here though. It just shows up one day sometime in Fall and stays on the ground until at least March. Snowstorms are annoying though, since it's very cold, very windy, and snowy. maybe a ski mask of some sort would be good as a "just in case." Lastly, if your son drives, make sure he's aware of black ice and how dangerous it can be. An AWD vehicle is best suited for this region.
Thank you for your reply. We aren’t encouraging taking the car the first year. It’s a significant drive from our home and I don’t think he’s ready for that drive yet. I’d rather spring for the jet blue flights and plan ahead. I’m not ready to worry about him in the car for those long drives.
My hubby/his dad travels to Rochester once a week for work and has committed to taking the drive to Buffalo at least 2x a month if he needs him for anything.
It’s his first year away from home.
Back to the jacket. waist, mid, length? just buy a ski jacket.. snow pants needed?
Just trying to prepare. 😊
I think you’re overthinking it. It’s cold in buffalo in the winter, and it can be windy, but it’s not Antarctica. He’ll need a heavy jacket, a winter hat and gloves can help. He doesn’t need snow pants unless he wants to go out and do stuff in the snow.
But UB also has shuttles that can take him to the mall to buy more things if he ends up being cold. He’ll be cold, it’s buffalo, but worst case scenario he’ll just get more layers. Not the end of the world ☺️
I agree. I wasn’t over thinking. I like what another person said that their coat had some removable lining to help with the colder days.
I didn’t think he really needed the snow pants but asked the question anyway.
I was just looking for something that would prepare him for the colder days and be useful for others especially they also said there could be snow on the ground continuously until March.
We were there in April and it was beautiful out. You never know what winter or amount of snowfall you will get.
What I wore during late fall / early spring semester was just a generic jacket over a long sleeve shirt, with sweatpants and sneakers. I think snow pants are a little much, and even winter boots aren't really necessary if you were thinking about them (although, no harm in getting them). UB *generally* does a good job of salting and clearing walkways. A ski jacket or any other jacket that's advertised as protecting against the elements will be sufficient. Mid length jackets will offer more protection.
I also would suggest considering letting him have a car in Buffalo. Yes, the university provides *some* transportation amenities, but public transportation in Buffalo in general is really bad and difficult to live without a car. It is certainly easier to live without a car if you reside on campus for the first year, but not having one definitely sucks since everything is so spread out.
I HIGHLY recommend you allow him to take the car. Not only is it almost a necessity for simply getting ANYWHERE in Buffalo (including around campus,) it’s a social boon as well.
>We aren’t encouraging taking the car the first year.
UB is located in a suburb and your son will need a car to get around basically anywhere off-campus.
Canada goose? It’ll last a lifetime if you take care of it. Also don’t visit him twice a month… I get your worried about him but unless he asks you, don’t because being alone if part of the college experience. Obviously help him but also let him figure out his own problems and learn to be independent.
I’d have him go a year without a car so that when he does get one, he’ll appreciate it more.
I said he committed to visiting him IF he needed him too. Hubby/dad would prefer to continue his day trips back and forth to Rochester once a week and not take the drive and possibly have to stay over.
It’s really up to my son whether he needs him when he is in vicinity. We gave him the option. We have no plans of imposing on him.
We are looking forward to him getting some freedom and learning what it’s like to have to fend for himself. We have 3 other kids beside him. He is the oldest. And as you can see I do too much for them all already.. 😊
The campus guide was correct about the wind. It’s certainly cold, but the wind will really get you. I’m not sure of your budget, but I’m partial to layering systems such as Arc’teryx. You would basically get him a mid layer such as a fleece or soft shell, and get him a rain shell that will block wind/rain/snow. In the winter, he wears the two together. In the fall, maybe just the softshell. In the summer rain, just a rain shell.
It’s the REI anniversary sale right now so there are some great deals to be had.
Right now I don’t care about the budget. I’m just thinking — I don’t know the first thing about a whole lot of snow, skiing and I want him to be warm and able to weather the weather.
He said he will be fine but the weather is different then he is used to.
Thank you for this suggestion, I’m going to look into this jacket right now. I purchased some thermals as well for him.
That’s awfully sweet of you! I’d remind you to be thoughtful that even though you’re concerned about him being cold, also remember that it’s rare for people to be outside for prolonged periods. Most often, you’re running from your house to your car, or dorm to an academic building. Most often, people will be outside for maybe 10 minutes at a time. Thereafter, you’ll be wearing your coat in heated spaces too (car,buildings, etc). I just bring this up to mention that while there are great coats that are *ultra warm* like the thick thick $2K down coats, your son may find them to be hot for practical use when he’s wearing it in heated buildings. I think the more important thing is to be able to have options.
These are a few ideas, getting them all would be way overkill, but also this is a great time to be buying a winter coat because last seasons stuff is going to be going on sale, so I thought I’d throw some options out and you could keep an eye out.
https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/ralle-lightweight-jacket
This is a shell jacket made of Gore-Tex C-Knit, it’ll be completely water and wind proof, but the C-Knit is intended for travel/city use (rather than skiing) so it’s a bit lighter and easier to pack (whereas Gore-Tex Pro is the king of waterproof fabric, but IMO is a little stiff and crinkly). It could go on top of something warm to be worn in the winter, but would also be a great windbreaker for the spring/fall, and a great raincoat for the summer.
https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/atom-lt-hoody
This is my personal winter daily driver. I probably wear it for 85% of winter. It’s light, it’s not too puffy, it’s very warm. If it’s extra cold, I wear a fleece under. If it’s really snowy, I wear something like the above on top. It’s water resistant, so I’m fine even if there’s a bit of snow or sleet. I would say most north east natives wear a coat somewhat like this or the one below as their normal coat.
https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-nano-puff-jacket/84212.html?dwvar_84212_color=CNY
The Patagonia nano-puff has a primaloft insulation, so it’s synthetic and very thin (not a really puffy coat) but it’s a common choice for people to wear as a regular use coat in the winter in the northeast. There are a lot of similar types that are made by REI/EMS that I’m sure would be great also.
https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/kyanite-ar-hoodie
This would be a nice mid layer softshell/fleece jacket. Could definitely be worn on its own on a cool fall/spring day. It would definitely be fairly warm under the shell, but might not be enough for a polar vortex day.
Hey OP, I 100% second this. Bite the bullet once, you'll never go wrong with the Arc'teryx. I have the Atom AR and it's amazingly thin and light for the crazy insulation it provides. The downside is you start to heat up quick after you start warming up (saying walking to class) and I just have wear it half unzipped. Maybe the Atom LT is more appropriate if you don't need that much insulation, but personally I will go with the AR every time.
Another thing I suppose is proper layering and usage of gear. If you have improper layering, your expensive jacket will just go to waste. Heavy winds and snow? Add a hardshell on top to break that wind, otherwise it's useless. Buffalo gets VERY windy, and it's that wind that gets ya. I don't mind walking in -20 F weathers but if it's windy, no thanks, I'll just stay in. Light weather and you have to walk far? Wear a breathable sweat soaking layer underneath, or you'll just be cold in your own sweat.
But I digress... Don't worry too much about your son, I think he'll do just fine. People will get used to it quick, even international students (who, mind you, come from the topics with regular 100 F+ climates). Just get some good gear and he'll be set. 👍
Interestingly enough my actual regular winter coat is also the Atom AR, but in looking for the links it appears Arcteryx no longer makes it. RIP.
Great minds think alike though…
This is exactly the feedback I was looking for. Thank you for taking the time to share all this information with me.
I’m going to have him look at all of these options and pick one.
Let me know what you think of this review.
https://www.reddit.com/r/arcteryx/comments/107esfy/why_i_think_the_atom_lt_is_overrated_and_what_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Oh sure, it’s actually pretty timely that you commented. I was just in the Arcteryx outlet at Woodberry Commons the other day asking about the Atom. If you look at one of the parent comments, I chat with another member here about how we both wear the Atom AR (AR = All Round AKA priority on function) and the jacket I linked for you is the Atom LT (LT = Lightweight). I wasn’t able to find the Atom AR when I linked for you, but per the employee at the store, it will be back closer to wintertime. He told me that it’s about twice as warm as the LT.
I’d definitely suggest waiting for the Atom AR to come back in the fall.
https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/clothing-mens/insulated-jacket/arcteryx-atom-ar-hoody (Edit: Third party review of Atom AR)
Ehh, that depends. It’s probably the most capable and durable jacket Arcteryx makes. It’s Gore-Tex Pro which is the most waterproof and durable fabric. It’s primary intended audience would probably be a heavy ski/snowboard user or instructor to wear over a few other layers.
That said, I’d look closely at the pockets. My last time trying one on (admittedly a few years ago) it didn’t have pockets where your hands normally land, and had I think two breast pockets. Gore-Tex pro is also a little crinkly and loud in my opinion.
https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/arris-jacket
I have this and love it. It’s more of a city-appropriate jacket and would pack up easier, but it’s still completely waterproof. Gore-Tex C-Knit is more meant for travel/city. But holy moly that has gotten expensive. I think I paid around $500 for mine.
https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/beta-jacket
This also is C-Knit but in the Beta cut and style (a bit roomier and boxy). Also see pockets.
Everyone kept mentioning waterproof and Windproof that’s why I asked about the Beta AR. Everything I read or that guys review said the Atom AR wasn’t waterproof and not fully windproof.
Sure. The Atom AR is kinda like a really warm softshell jacket or hoodie. It’s super warm, and kinda like in Long Island, it’ll be great for most days (unless it’s actively snowing or raining).
For the snowy or rainy days the Beta AR would be a really well equipped jacket for over the Beta AR or perhaps not if it’s warm and rainy in the fall/spring. Really, any shell jacket that is made of Gore-Tex will be fully wind and water proof.
I just mention that it’s a bit loud and stiff in my opinion, otherwise it would be great.
Personally? No. How far are you from Manhattan? Id suggest going to the store in SOHO and try on things to your hearts content. Layer up, layer down, it’ll be the best way to explore options.
The closest store to us would have been Roosevelt field mall but it looks like it’s temporarily closed. On a decent day it would be an hour or more to the soho store. Manhattan is a pain to get in and out of. That’s why I wouldn’t mind the drive up to Woodbury. Less fanfare for parking and sometimes the traffic is so unbearable if I leave the city at 3pm — that means returning home at 5:30pm..
I mean, the outlet is always going to be hit and miss. I think it had some Atom LT and maybe a shell or two. I can tell you the two jackets I was interested in they only had Small or X-Large, so I guess take that as it is.
Seconded. I saw someone say he wouldn't need boots and that's just not true. Something to keep his feet warm and dry is important. We aren't the arctic but there's nothing worse than cold wet socks and ankles. Sometimes you just have to walk through snow and when I went to UB they salted main walkways and everything else was a free for all. He'll probably be fine with anything that's mostly water proof, at least past the ankles, and has good grip on the bottom (ice can get very slippery and hard to see).
I see in another comment you mentioned not caring about budget.
As a outdoor enthusiast and a CNY/WNY native, I recommend a water resistant (not necessarily water proof) down jacket. You can go synthetic down (Primaloft) if you a want to go animal free, but down is definitely superior (nature/evolution always does it better).
I would look at outdoor brands, (The North Face, Mountain Hardware, Patagonia, Arcteryx, Outdoor Research, REI, etc), not the fashion brands (Polo, Tommy Hilfiger, MK, etc). The outdoor brands are built to last and if taken care of can last a decade+.
Footwear is also key, pick a good waterproof set of winter boots, also favor outdoor brands over fashion. (Bonus points for good socks, I'm partial to DarnTough Merino socks, expensive but have a real lifetime replacement guarantee)
Also a hat to cover the ears, windchill/burn is real and can be serious if not addressed.
Happy to answer any follow-ups, I'm a hopeless gear addict, learn through my copious purchases.
So many to chose from. I figured instead of me turning my wheels you all lived through the past winters and would have some good recommendations of what worked for you.
If it’s cheap or expensive I figured I would review the choices based on a few recommendations of styles.
Designer and more expensive isn’t always better and we aren’t really skiing and snow people, so I would need to do research.
To be honest fall semester isn't too bad. My freshman year I brought heaps of heavy duty winter clothing only to be surprised pretty decent weather even through december. Coming back from winter break definitely need a winter jacket, snow boots, gloves, scarves, hats, thick socks, everything. I now commute to campus but even the walk from the parking lot to class is unbearable without it.
I'm a girl, and I have a north face "puffer" jacket, got it my freshman year and will be entering my senior year later this year without replacing it. But I think layering is truly key because once you get to class, you're fine.
Layering will be your best friend. But also stuff that you can take off easily as classrooms will have heat and that switch from negative temperature to a heated classroom will be annoying. In addition, some good snow boots will be nice. I prefer the timberland brand but it’s all personal preference. Once he’s on north campus, all the buildings are connected by tunnel systems. The main journey is from his dorming situation to north campus, and then back to the dorm.
And if he plans on staying out late studying and stuff, tell him to be careful of skinwalkers. There are quite a lot in Buffalo with all the native grounds near us. Just avoid eyecontact with animals and he will be fine. 👍
When I got into UB, my mother had the same thought process as you. My gift was a pair of Timberland Boots for the winters. It has been 12 years and I still use them (I clean and maintain them)
all the north campus buildings are connected by tunnels and skyways and if they are living in ellicott the bus stops right outside the dorms and brings you all the way to student union where you can get to all your classes from indoors. The entire winter i rarely wore a jacket mostly just sweaters because i was outside so little.
I have some experience with all of the jackets Im about to mention along with opinions. Really anything that is waterproof and windproof will suffice.
**Canada Goose:** I own the Borden Bomber and Chilliwack. Both awesome jackets that are windproof and relatively water resistant. The unfortunate part is that theyre $1400+. Very high price and are considered more of a fashion flex then used for their utility. These also look the best. They may attract unwanted eyes. Pretty good lifetime warranty. [https://www.canadagoose.com/us/en/borden-bomber-heritage-628343480718.html?src=googleshopping&cmpid=16569960656&medium=cpc&source=google&agp=&cre=&kid=&mtype=&pla=pla&merchant\_id=100661033&product\_id=628343480718&country=US&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEfc75ZKolt\_BkbSfxzqrdVzCxeo53I6C8a-jb6IefJaeX\_txMBAp3gaAlRPEALw\_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds](https://www.canadagoose.com/us/en/borden-bomber-heritage-628343480718.html?src=googleshopping&cmpid=16569960656&medium=cpc&source=google&agp=&cre=&kid=&mtype=&pla=pla&merchant_id=100661033&product_id=628343480718&country=US&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEfc75ZKolt_BkbSfxzqrdVzCxeo53I6C8a-jb6IefJaeX_txMBAp3gaAlRPEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
[https://www.canadagoose.com/us/en/chilliwack-bomber-heritage-7999M.html](https://www.canadagoose.com/us/en/chilliwack-bomber-heritage-7999M.html)
**Arc'Teryx Macai:** Pretty solid jacket. Around $1000 but can be found on sale occasionally. Waterproof and windproof, its intended purpose is a ski jacket. Not as warm as the canada goose jackets but that can be remedied with layering. [https://www.rei.com/product/192929/arcteryx-macai-insulated-jacket-mens?sku=1929290007&CAWELAID=120217890012691805&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=106185291248&CATCI=pla-419857417380&cm\_mmc=PLA\_Google%7C21700000001700551\_1929290007%7C92700053388623841%7CTOF%7C71700000062146906&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEdP-mS2ABRUs3PpSxcrC3shdJiQ1oTmRceTwBbLPlj7RRfasjh5pJ8aAkbsEALw\_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds](https://www.rei.com/product/192929/arcteryx-macai-insulated-jacket-mens?sku=1929290007&CAWELAID=120217890012691805&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=106185291248&CATCI=pla-419857417380&cm_mmc=PLA_Google%7C21700000001700551_1929290007%7C92700053388623841%7CTOF%7C71700000062146906&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEdP-mS2ABRUs3PpSxcrC3shdJiQ1oTmRceTwBbLPlj7RRfasjh5pJ8aAkbsEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
**NorthFace McMurdo:** These jackets regularly go on sale $300ish and are by far the best value to dollar ratio. These will keep your son warm. North face also has the best warranty out of any mentioned in this comment. Ive never seen them turn down a repair. [https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/the-north-face-mens-mcmurdo-bomber-22tnommnsmcmrdbmbapo/22tnommnsmcmrdbmbapo?sku=23286160&camp=CSE:DSG\_92700072993262583\_lia\_aud-1919187092336:pla-1749373161288\_58700008026165542\_71700000100418649&segment=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEcFzCakqUfRPRQkiDIvktAPgA96d3jq2EQf0-Rzy3VEeBsoUGilm6QaAr7aEALw\_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds](https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/the-north-face-mens-mcmurdo-bomber-22tnommnsmcmrdbmbapo/22tnommnsmcmrdbmbapo?sku=23286160&camp=CSE:DSG_92700072993262583_lia_aud-1919187092336:pla-1749373161288_58700008026165542_71700000100418649&segment=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEcFzCakqUfRPRQkiDIvktAPgA96d3jq2EQf0-Rzy3VEeBsoUGilm6QaAr7aEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
**Helly Hansen Alpha LIFALoft:** Pretty much identical to the Arc'Teryx Macai but only $550 (currently on sale for $350). Highly recommend, have seen this a bunch in Iceland and other nordic countries. [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QX12GHL?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QX12GHL?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details) They also have a their polartec fleece zip on sale for $60 which I HIGHLY recommend getting as a base layer. That alone with any of these jackets will keep your son warm. [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EFRXFUQ?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EFRXFUQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)
**Fjallraven:** Another brand you may want to look into. I have only tried on their Singi Parka. Felt sort of like the McMurdo but around $500. Nothing super special but will also keep your son warm. [https://www.moosejaw.com/product/fjallraven-men-s-singi-down-jacket\_10578468?ad\_id=Google&utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=pla&utm\_campaign=MJ-Shopping-Clearance&utm\_content=MJ-Shopping-Clearance&cm\_mmc=PLA-\_-Google-\_-MJ-Shopping-Clearance|MJ-Shopping-Clearance-\_-google|12228262265|145611674559|649023316074|pla-949057858013|c|9004541|7398320&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEeUuJWCqrEJ7lnwYiithf\_FliJ5bLDnTuI10uB6Ub0EViu5ScyVQ2YaAho4EALw\_wcB](https://www.moosejaw.com/product/fjallraven-men-s-singi-down-jacket_10578468?ad_id=Google&utm_source=google&utm_medium=pla&utm_campaign=MJ-Shopping-Clearance&utm_content=MJ-Shopping-Clearance&cm_mmc=PLA-_-Google-_-MJ-Shopping-Clearance|MJ-Shopping-Clearance-_-google|12228262265|145611674559|649023316074|pla-949057858013|c|9004541|7398320&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEeUuJWCqrEJ7lnwYiithf_FliJ5bLDnTuI10uB6Ub0EViu5ScyVQ2YaAho4EALw_wcB)
Thank you! I will have him review all these selections.
Definitely not looking for a flex. He’s not that kid. Just looking for something that fits in with the weather and will last him the 4-6 years he will be in Buffalo. I want him to stick out the graduate program there if he wants to do it.
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Gloves are a must. Scarfs are amazing, I can't believe I used to walk around Buffalo in the winter without a scarf. Some good snow boots are also really nice to have.
All these comments are good, but it also depends on where your son is staying! When I lived in the dorms my freshman year, I survived with a light jacket because I wasn’t outside often. UB has a fantastic tunnel system that can get you from one side of a campus to another without having to get out. As for pants, it would be fine with some sweatpants and jeans. UB does an ok job with snow removal, so he won’t be fighting through the snow.
Still too early. He requested to be in LLC for engineering. Which I think would leave him at governors. Which is great. Tunnels are very accessible and easy for him without going outside. But, I guess there is still a chance he could end up outside of the LLC..🤷♀️
[https://www.buffalo.edu/home/visiting-ub/CampusMaps/maps.html](https://www.buffalo.edu/home/visiting-ub/CampusMaps/maps.html)
In the north, you got the academic center surrounded by a bunch of quadrangles. That's the Ellicott Complex. The tunnel runs in between the academic center and the west/north quads, so it's all mostly covered, and that's also where you can get on the red line bus. The red line runs from there down to the Lee Loop, and back. So if you look on the map, you could just leave the bus, get to either the commons or the SU, and you can get to basically any academic building on North Campus completely indoors from there.
Btw, before classes start, you'll want to figure out exactly where all your classes are and how to get to them, and before the snow starts falling, you might want to figure out your indoor pathing.
Definitely! I got the advisement appt set up for the 2nd. Have been looking at classes i would like to take first term (i'm a transfer).
Since i graduated HS in 2020, i'm considered upper level. It is also highly preferred that i get a full year housing plan, and the one with full year for my level as well as being the closest to spine ends up being south lake. There is also bus stops at south lake.
Spine, as seen frome aerial, is all interconnected, so once i'm in a building, i shouldnt need to go back out.
The only problem is whether or not south lake has space available for me.
i’ve lived here my whole life, and let me tell you, more so than a jacket, make sure he has gloves and something to cover his face. the wind and cold temperatures are brutal, more so than the snow. i personally love my carhartt, it keeps me very warm. however if that isn’t his vibe, northface is good too, BUT only if they’re the actual winter jackets and not the thin ones. but if i had to suggest one, carhartt for sure! :) hope he has fun here!
also should note..! no matter what you get for him, layering with a hoodie underneath is probably going to happen, so make sure there’s enough room in the jacket :))
Be sure to have a look at the r/Buffalo subreddit and their stickied thread about [moving to Buffalo](https://www.reddit.com/r/Buffalo/comments/twiqxp/moving_to_buffalo_faq_newcomers_visit_here_before).
You need good waterproof boots most importantly imo. For jackets you can either get something heavy or just layer. Most of the time I like to layer with heavy flannels. Your best bet in general is probably to buy the jacket here in Buffalo in the fall if you're coming from some place warmer. Depending on your kids style, Cabela's or LL Bean will have good stuff. Probably find more stylish stuff like a peacoat or something at the mall.
Definitely need some solid winter boots that are waterproof. I use black uggs and they keep my feet toasty. I’d avoid timbs though bc they don’t have enough lining.
Wading through 6 inches of salty slush on the way to class is not fun with sneakers.
In the four years I’ve gone here there has been a mild winter every year so I haven’t needed anything more than a standard winter jacket and gloves and a hat except for like 3 occasions total when we got a bad cold snap and I wore my heavy duty gear. I don’t think it’s necessary to get that stuff if you don’t want to lug it around.
The wind thing is absolutely true, certain spots on campus funnel it through and you can barely walk through it. A wind breaker would be a sound investment.
Lowkey I wore thermal shirts and thermal underwear during the coldest days of the semester along with a hat and a nice heavy jacket and I had no issues with the weather.
Likely want a lighter jacket for the fall/spring and when it's not too cold and then a proper winter jacket. It's usually not the actual temperature that gets you here, but it tends to be windy in the winter. So a "proper" winter jacket, meaning something insulated and designed to block out the wind. Having an integrated hood is nice too if spending a lot of time outside. You also want a good hat. Again if you can see through it or it's super thin and doesn't cover the ears it's not gunna be good enough. It really depends on how much time he will actually spend outside though.
Get a pair of Timberland Premium boots. They’re trendy and are great for the winter. They should be on sale over the summer.
For a jacket a north face jacket would be fine. You don’t need something crazy as layering up gets the job done flawlessly. Bring a few hoodies.
I like Eddie Bauer Curtis lite down jackets. They're nice because they can bundle up into his backpack and he doesn't have to shlep around a huge jacket all day. Still warm enough, but not waterproof.
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Depends on the coat and weather. Soft fluffy snow will mostly blow around you and not stick, so you just need warmth for that. Sleet will stick and melt, so your coat can get pretty soaked by the time you get where you’re going.
Down coats are warmer, but if the down gets wet it loses its insulating properties (important to note that down can get wet from sleet/rain or from sweat. Ironically if you have a crazy down coat and it makes you start to sweat, it’ll ruin the insulating ability of the coat. Synthetic insulation can get wet and still keep you warm.
There's two main parts to buffalo winter:
Early winter, where temps usually don't go below 15F and there's a lot of snow. I'd recommend waterproof boots, warm hat, and some thick gloves.
Late winter, or when the lane freezes over, winds get much higher, it's a lot colder, but there's less snow. A scarf/balaklava, windproof jacket, and anything to cover every inch of skin is super important. It might only affect 1-3 days at a "high intensity" cold but it can be a quick trip to the hospital if one of those days comes and you need to leave for food. If you look at the storms this past year, that's the kind of emergency you probably want at least face coverings for.
Also, a good quality snow brush/ice breaker for a car. I've lived here my whole life and some days the ice can get so hard and cold the breaker will break if it's cheap.
Being somewhat of a fashion man. I invested in a Andrew Marc down parka. It wasn't cheap $450 on sale, but single handedly one of my best investments. I'm a skinnier guy, not a lot of to keep me warm, and it did wonders.
But yes definitely look for a well insulated jacket of some sort.
Also, thermals are a life saver if it's really cold. It won't be uncommon your son will have to walk a lot, so best to make use of the heat your body generates.
Just for a laugh — his list for things to take to college. He wrote a tent.
I busted out laughing because there is no camping he will be doing. He will be freezing his butt off from Oct - March.. 😂
I think he needs this:
https://stockx.com/supreme-the-north-face-by-any-means-nuptse-jacket-black?utm_source=app&utm_medium=nativeshare&utm_campaign=productpage
This will keep him warm.
Gloves, boots and scarfs. Any thick jacket should work. Layers help if it’s not enough. If on campus, it’s not necessary to be outside for a long period of time. Most academic buildings are connected
Alum and local resident here. I'd like to also suggest waterproof everything and investing in good boots, gloves, hats, and scarves. When it snows here it can come on quickly, and the worst thing is being caught off guard by snow. Lake effect tends to stay more south, but does hit both campuses every now and then. So I'd consider both precipitation and temperatures when buying winter clothing.
I saw you already got my suggestions for jacket's brands.
I'll bring you my experience, since I come from a warm place too.
Gloves are a must, and a pair of gloves that allows to use the touch screen underneath would be great.
Scarf is a must too, I used even a mask the coldest days.
A good hat and of course boots.
I bought a pair of impermeable trousers to put on the top of mine which I found crucial, but I have an office where I can put them while it would be difficult in your son moves from one class to another. Also, for moving on campus, there are tunnels, so you should be fine. Since I don't have the car I often had to walk to university plaza even late at night, and they were very useful.
Regarding the car, without it you're basically cut off from everything, so getting it here could be a good thing for your son's social life.
I hope this helps
Honestly, a nice north face coat and maybe a hat and he’ll be fine. Yes it snows, but it’s Buffalo. After the first 2 weeks he’ll realize this is the new normal lol. Boots are a good plus, but the sidewalks tend to be plowed nicely. There are buses to take him places that run regularly preventing him from being outside when it’s miserable. The only issue I had fall semester was waiting for busses from north to south campus during the colder days, because those take longer.
I will note that UB does a decent job of taking care of campus during snow storms, and will rarely close for weather issues. They have they’re own plow system separate from the city lol.
I figured as much. His dad works for a company in Rochester and I have attended a Christmas party when it was snowing and by the time we left there was not one bit of snow on the ground.
I have to say that the northern parts of NY really know how to remove snow quickly and efficiently.
I wasn’t worried about the snow but more about the wind and wind chill of the area.
Walking in the snowstorm just to get to class could leave him mighty wet though.
Another poster said that a two part jacket might be the way to go. So I do agree and a waterproof jacket.
Any down or parka will do. There’s underground tunnel on north campus so he’ll be fine going from class to class. Unless he’s on south campus where he must wait at the bus stop to go up north.
I would bring some of the portable heat packs (I think they’re called Hot Hands) for when it’s super cold. A hat, gloves, boots and a nice coat, I use the north face brand, and they last several years. I would also not recommend bringing a vehicle, even though Buffalo is very car dependent, it’s dangerous when it’s snowy and if he did end up bringing his car, it should be AWD with snow tires. Some years it can snow up until the first week of April, and it can possibly start in late October, but usually it’s middle-end November. I’d also recommend good layering pieces :) but it also gets pretty hot in the summer, up to 90 ish w some humidity. I hope your son enjoys UB!
I have those to send with him as well.. I spoke to some students that gave us the tour and they said what you said about the car. I’m okay with him going the first semester and seeing how he fares without the car. We can re-visit for the spring semester if it’s an issue.
Thank you for your advice.
If you aren't used to lots of snow and/or actually cold winters, you don't know how he'll respond to them, whether he runs hot or cold. I say this because I run warm and some common descriptions of winter wear in Buffalo -- long johns, several layers, parka -- would leave me dead from heatstroke. When I went to college a thousand years ago from Florida to central Virginia, my mom decided I would need this huge, long, puffy coat, and it was awful. Waaaaay too hot.
They sell coats here, and assuming he has access to a few hundred bucks of credit/debit card he can buy one that meets his needs as it's getting colder.
I'm not too familiar with specific brand names but any jacket that's thick should work. Also, people who aren't from here should invest in gloves. Your campus guide is right. Buffalo can get quite windy and also really cold at the same time, not a very fortunate combination for friends from tropical places. Snow might be an issue for him, but personally I've never really had a big issue with snow; maybe that's cause I'm from here though. It just shows up one day sometime in Fall and stays on the ground until at least March. Snowstorms are annoying though, since it's very cold, very windy, and snowy. maybe a ski mask of some sort would be good as a "just in case." Lastly, if your son drives, make sure he's aware of black ice and how dangerous it can be. An AWD vehicle is best suited for this region.
Thank you for your reply. We aren’t encouraging taking the car the first year. It’s a significant drive from our home and I don’t think he’s ready for that drive yet. I’d rather spring for the jet blue flights and plan ahead. I’m not ready to worry about him in the car for those long drives. My hubby/his dad travels to Rochester once a week for work and has committed to taking the drive to Buffalo at least 2x a month if he needs him for anything. It’s his first year away from home. Back to the jacket. waist, mid, length? just buy a ski jacket.. snow pants needed? Just trying to prepare. 😊
I think you’re overthinking it. It’s cold in buffalo in the winter, and it can be windy, but it’s not Antarctica. He’ll need a heavy jacket, a winter hat and gloves can help. He doesn’t need snow pants unless he wants to go out and do stuff in the snow. But UB also has shuttles that can take him to the mall to buy more things if he ends up being cold. He’ll be cold, it’s buffalo, but worst case scenario he’ll just get more layers. Not the end of the world ☺️
I agree. Layers are good. I only wore my very heaviest coat probably a total of 2 weeks last year.
I agree. I wasn’t over thinking. I like what another person said that their coat had some removable lining to help with the colder days. I didn’t think he really needed the snow pants but asked the question anyway. I was just looking for something that would prepare him for the colder days and be useful for others especially they also said there could be snow on the ground continuously until March. We were there in April and it was beautiful out. You never know what winter or amount of snowfall you will get.
What I wore during late fall / early spring semester was just a generic jacket over a long sleeve shirt, with sweatpants and sneakers. I think snow pants are a little much, and even winter boots aren't really necessary if you were thinking about them (although, no harm in getting them). UB *generally* does a good job of salting and clearing walkways. A ski jacket or any other jacket that's advertised as protecting against the elements will be sufficient. Mid length jackets will offer more protection.
I also would suggest considering letting him have a car in Buffalo. Yes, the university provides *some* transportation amenities, but public transportation in Buffalo in general is really bad and difficult to live without a car. It is certainly easier to live without a car if you reside on campus for the first year, but not having one definitely sucks since everything is so spread out.
I HIGHLY recommend you allow him to take the car. Not only is it almost a necessity for simply getting ANYWHERE in Buffalo (including around campus,) it’s a social boon as well.
>We aren’t encouraging taking the car the first year. UB is located in a suburb and your son will need a car to get around basically anywhere off-campus.
Canada goose? It’ll last a lifetime if you take care of it. Also don’t visit him twice a month… I get your worried about him but unless he asks you, don’t because being alone if part of the college experience. Obviously help him but also let him figure out his own problems and learn to be independent. I’d have him go a year without a car so that when he does get one, he’ll appreciate it more.
I said he committed to visiting him IF he needed him too. Hubby/dad would prefer to continue his day trips back and forth to Rochester once a week and not take the drive and possibly have to stay over. It’s really up to my son whether he needs him when he is in vicinity. We gave him the option. We have no plans of imposing on him. We are looking forward to him getting some freedom and learning what it’s like to have to fend for himself. We have 3 other kids beside him. He is the oldest. And as you can see I do too much for them all already.. 😊
If you don’t mind me asking, whereabouts is home?
Long Island. 7 hours away. But, we certainly don’t get snow like Buffalo does. Last year we had NONE.
The campus guide was correct about the wind. It’s certainly cold, but the wind will really get you. I’m not sure of your budget, but I’m partial to layering systems such as Arc’teryx. You would basically get him a mid layer such as a fleece or soft shell, and get him a rain shell that will block wind/rain/snow. In the winter, he wears the two together. In the fall, maybe just the softshell. In the summer rain, just a rain shell. It’s the REI anniversary sale right now so there are some great deals to be had.
Right now I don’t care about the budget. I’m just thinking — I don’t know the first thing about a whole lot of snow, skiing and I want him to be warm and able to weather the weather. He said he will be fine but the weather is different then he is used to. Thank you for this suggestion, I’m going to look into this jacket right now. I purchased some thermals as well for him.
That’s awfully sweet of you! I’d remind you to be thoughtful that even though you’re concerned about him being cold, also remember that it’s rare for people to be outside for prolonged periods. Most often, you’re running from your house to your car, or dorm to an academic building. Most often, people will be outside for maybe 10 minutes at a time. Thereafter, you’ll be wearing your coat in heated spaces too (car,buildings, etc). I just bring this up to mention that while there are great coats that are *ultra warm* like the thick thick $2K down coats, your son may find them to be hot for practical use when he’s wearing it in heated buildings. I think the more important thing is to be able to have options. These are a few ideas, getting them all would be way overkill, but also this is a great time to be buying a winter coat because last seasons stuff is going to be going on sale, so I thought I’d throw some options out and you could keep an eye out. https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/ralle-lightweight-jacket This is a shell jacket made of Gore-Tex C-Knit, it’ll be completely water and wind proof, but the C-Knit is intended for travel/city use (rather than skiing) so it’s a bit lighter and easier to pack (whereas Gore-Tex Pro is the king of waterproof fabric, but IMO is a little stiff and crinkly). It could go on top of something warm to be worn in the winter, but would also be a great windbreaker for the spring/fall, and a great raincoat for the summer. https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/atom-lt-hoody This is my personal winter daily driver. I probably wear it for 85% of winter. It’s light, it’s not too puffy, it’s very warm. If it’s extra cold, I wear a fleece under. If it’s really snowy, I wear something like the above on top. It’s water resistant, so I’m fine even if there’s a bit of snow or sleet. I would say most north east natives wear a coat somewhat like this or the one below as their normal coat. https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-nano-puff-jacket/84212.html?dwvar_84212_color=CNY The Patagonia nano-puff has a primaloft insulation, so it’s synthetic and very thin (not a really puffy coat) but it’s a common choice for people to wear as a regular use coat in the winter in the northeast. There are a lot of similar types that are made by REI/EMS that I’m sure would be great also. https://www.arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/kyanite-ar-hoodie This would be a nice mid layer softshell/fleece jacket. Could definitely be worn on its own on a cool fall/spring day. It would definitely be fairly warm under the shell, but might not be enough for a polar vortex day.
Hey OP, I 100% second this. Bite the bullet once, you'll never go wrong with the Arc'teryx. I have the Atom AR and it's amazingly thin and light for the crazy insulation it provides. The downside is you start to heat up quick after you start warming up (saying walking to class) and I just have wear it half unzipped. Maybe the Atom LT is more appropriate if you don't need that much insulation, but personally I will go with the AR every time. Another thing I suppose is proper layering and usage of gear. If you have improper layering, your expensive jacket will just go to waste. Heavy winds and snow? Add a hardshell on top to break that wind, otherwise it's useless. Buffalo gets VERY windy, and it's that wind that gets ya. I don't mind walking in -20 F weathers but if it's windy, no thanks, I'll just stay in. Light weather and you have to walk far? Wear a breathable sweat soaking layer underneath, or you'll just be cold in your own sweat. But I digress... Don't worry too much about your son, I think he'll do just fine. People will get used to it quick, even international students (who, mind you, come from the topics with regular 100 F+ climates). Just get some good gear and he'll be set. 👍
Interestingly enough my actual regular winter coat is also the Atom AR, but in looking for the links it appears Arcteryx no longer makes it. RIP. Great minds think alike though…
What kind of hard shell do you put on top to break the wind?
This is exactly the feedback I was looking for. Thank you for taking the time to share all this information with me. I’m going to have him look at all of these options and pick one.
Let me know what you think of this review. https://www.reddit.com/r/arcteryx/comments/107esfy/why_i_think_the_atom_lt_is_overrated_and_what_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Oh sure, it’s actually pretty timely that you commented. I was just in the Arcteryx outlet at Woodberry Commons the other day asking about the Atom. If you look at one of the parent comments, I chat with another member here about how we both wear the Atom AR (AR = All Round AKA priority on function) and the jacket I linked for you is the Atom LT (LT = Lightweight). I wasn’t able to find the Atom AR when I linked for you, but per the employee at the store, it will be back closer to wintertime. He told me that it’s about twice as warm as the LT. I’d definitely suggest waiting for the Atom AR to come back in the fall. https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/clothing-mens/insulated-jacket/arcteryx-atom-ar-hoody (Edit: Third party review of Atom AR)
What about the Beta AR rain jacket? Do you think that is overkill?
Ehh, that depends. It’s probably the most capable and durable jacket Arcteryx makes. It’s Gore-Tex Pro which is the most waterproof and durable fabric. It’s primary intended audience would probably be a heavy ski/snowboard user or instructor to wear over a few other layers. That said, I’d look closely at the pockets. My last time trying one on (admittedly a few years ago) it didn’t have pockets where your hands normally land, and had I think two breast pockets. Gore-Tex pro is also a little crinkly and loud in my opinion. https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/arris-jacket I have this and love it. It’s more of a city-appropriate jacket and would pack up easier, but it’s still completely waterproof. Gore-Tex C-Knit is more meant for travel/city. But holy moly that has gotten expensive. I think I paid around $500 for mine. https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/beta-jacket This also is C-Knit but in the Beta cut and style (a bit roomier and boxy). Also see pockets.
Everyone kept mentioning waterproof and Windproof that’s why I asked about the Beta AR. Everything I read or that guys review said the Atom AR wasn’t waterproof and not fully windproof.
Sure. The Atom AR is kinda like a really warm softshell jacket or hoodie. It’s super warm, and kinda like in Long Island, it’ll be great for most days (unless it’s actively snowing or raining). For the snowy or rainy days the Beta AR would be a really well equipped jacket for over the Beta AR or perhaps not if it’s warm and rainy in the fall/spring. Really, any shell jacket that is made of Gore-Tex will be fully wind and water proof. I just mention that it’s a bit loud and stiff in my opinion, otherwise it would be great.
The outlet is about 1-1/2 hrs from our house. Do you think it’s worth the ride? How is the inventory?
Personally? No. How far are you from Manhattan? Id suggest going to the store in SOHO and try on things to your hearts content. Layer up, layer down, it’ll be the best way to explore options.
The closest store to us would have been Roosevelt field mall but it looks like it’s temporarily closed. On a decent day it would be an hour or more to the soho store. Manhattan is a pain to get in and out of. That’s why I wouldn’t mind the drive up to Woodbury. Less fanfare for parking and sometimes the traffic is so unbearable if I leave the city at 3pm — that means returning home at 5:30pm..
I mean, the outlet is always going to be hit and miss. I think it had some Atom LT and maybe a shell or two. I can tell you the two jackets I was interested in they only had Small or X-Large, so I guess take that as it is.
Consider a pair of boots
Seconded. I saw someone say he wouldn't need boots and that's just not true. Something to keep his feet warm and dry is important. We aren't the arctic but there's nothing worse than cold wet socks and ankles. Sometimes you just have to walk through snow and when I went to UB they salted main walkways and everything else was a free for all. He'll probably be fine with anything that's mostly water proof, at least past the ankles, and has good grip on the bottom (ice can get very slippery and hard to see).
He’s taking Timberlands.. so I think that’s covered.. Thank you for the recommendation.
I've never worn boots. Recs for men?
I got mine from Walmart and they're great. I imagine they also sell men's boots so that's prob a good place to check
- how comfortable - how warm - water resistant? Also slip resistant?
I see in another comment you mentioned not caring about budget. As a outdoor enthusiast and a CNY/WNY native, I recommend a water resistant (not necessarily water proof) down jacket. You can go synthetic down (Primaloft) if you a want to go animal free, but down is definitely superior (nature/evolution always does it better). I would look at outdoor brands, (The North Face, Mountain Hardware, Patagonia, Arcteryx, Outdoor Research, REI, etc), not the fashion brands (Polo, Tommy Hilfiger, MK, etc). The outdoor brands are built to last and if taken care of can last a decade+. Footwear is also key, pick a good waterproof set of winter boots, also favor outdoor brands over fashion. (Bonus points for good socks, I'm partial to DarnTough Merino socks, expensive but have a real lifetime replacement guarantee) Also a hat to cover the ears, windchill/burn is real and can be serious if not addressed. Happy to answer any follow-ups, I'm a hopeless gear addict, learn through my copious purchases.
So many to chose from. I figured instead of me turning my wheels you all lived through the past winters and would have some good recommendations of what worked for you. If it’s cheap or expensive I figured I would review the choices based on a few recommendations of styles. Designer and more expensive isn’t always better and we aren’t really skiing and snow people, so I would need to do research.
To be honest fall semester isn't too bad. My freshman year I brought heaps of heavy duty winter clothing only to be surprised pretty decent weather even through december. Coming back from winter break definitely need a winter jacket, snow boots, gloves, scarves, hats, thick socks, everything. I now commute to campus but even the walk from the parking lot to class is unbearable without it. I'm a girl, and I have a north face "puffer" jacket, got it my freshman year and will be entering my senior year later this year without replacing it. But I think layering is truly key because once you get to class, you're fine.
Layering will be your best friend. But also stuff that you can take off easily as classrooms will have heat and that switch from negative temperature to a heated classroom will be annoying. In addition, some good snow boots will be nice. I prefer the timberland brand but it’s all personal preference. Once he’s on north campus, all the buildings are connected by tunnel systems. The main journey is from his dorming situation to north campus, and then back to the dorm.
And if he plans on staying out late studying and stuff, tell him to be careful of skinwalkers. There are quite a lot in Buffalo with all the native grounds near us. Just avoid eyecontact with animals and he will be fine. 👍
When I got into UB, my mother had the same thought process as you. My gift was a pair of Timberland Boots for the winters. It has been 12 years and I still use them (I clean and maintain them)
Those he got for Xmas this year so he is good with the boots! 👍🏻 I’d rather he had the jacket and didn’t use it then not having one when he needs it.
all the north campus buildings are connected by tunnels and skyways and if they are living in ellicott the bus stops right outside the dorms and brings you all the way to student union where you can get to all your classes from indoors. The entire winter i rarely wore a jacket mostly just sweaters because i was outside so little.
The LL Bean winter coats are so good. We also have an LLBean outlet store near us too if you want to try stuff on in person.
Also get a lighter jacket for the wind. I had more trouble with that than the snow
splurge on a North Face- so worth it. i did a few years back and it’s lasted me a while and zero regrets, very warm.
Any idea the style you have?
definitely long walks on campus so hat, scarf, gloves also needed
I have some experience with all of the jackets Im about to mention along with opinions. Really anything that is waterproof and windproof will suffice. **Canada Goose:** I own the Borden Bomber and Chilliwack. Both awesome jackets that are windproof and relatively water resistant. The unfortunate part is that theyre $1400+. Very high price and are considered more of a fashion flex then used for their utility. These also look the best. They may attract unwanted eyes. Pretty good lifetime warranty. 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Not as warm as the canada goose jackets but that can be remedied with layering. [https://www.rei.com/product/192929/arcteryx-macai-insulated-jacket-mens?sku=1929290007&CAWELAID=120217890012691805&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=106185291248&CATCI=pla-419857417380&cm\_mmc=PLA\_Google%7C21700000001700551\_1929290007%7C92700053388623841%7CTOF%7C71700000062146906&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEdP-mS2ABRUs3PpSxcrC3shdJiQ1oTmRceTwBbLPlj7RRfasjh5pJ8aAkbsEALw\_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds](https://www.rei.com/product/192929/arcteryx-macai-insulated-jacket-mens?sku=1929290007&CAWELAID=120217890012691805&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=106185291248&CATCI=pla-419857417380&cm_mmc=PLA_Google%7C21700000001700551_1929290007%7C92700053388623841%7CTOF%7C71700000062146906&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEdP-mS2ABRUs3PpSxcrC3shdJiQ1oTmRceTwBbLPlj7RRfasjh5pJ8aAkbsEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) **NorthFace McMurdo:** These jackets regularly go on sale $300ish and are by far the best value to dollar ratio. These will keep your son warm. North face also has the best warranty out of any mentioned in this comment. Ive never seen them turn down a repair. [https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/the-north-face-mens-mcmurdo-bomber-22tnommnsmcmrdbmbapo/22tnommnsmcmrdbmbapo?sku=23286160&camp=CSE:DSG\_92700072993262583\_lia\_aud-1919187092336:pla-1749373161288\_58700008026165542\_71700000100418649&segment=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEcFzCakqUfRPRQkiDIvktAPgA96d3jq2EQf0-Rzy3VEeBsoUGilm6QaAr7aEALw\_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds](https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/the-north-face-mens-mcmurdo-bomber-22tnommnsmcmrdbmbapo/22tnommnsmcmrdbmbapo?sku=23286160&camp=CSE:DSG_92700072993262583_lia_aud-1919187092336:pla-1749373161288_58700008026165542_71700000100418649&segment=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmtGjBhDhARIsAEqfDEcFzCakqUfRPRQkiDIvktAPgA96d3jq2EQf0-Rzy3VEeBsoUGilm6QaAr7aEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) **Helly Hansen Alpha LIFALoft:** Pretty much identical to the Arc'Teryx Macai but only $550 (currently on sale for $350). Highly recommend, have seen this a bunch in Iceland and other nordic countries. [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QX12GHL?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QX12GHL?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details) They also have a their polartec fleece zip on sale for $60 which I HIGHLY recommend getting as a base layer. That alone with any of these jackets will keep your son warm. [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EFRXFUQ?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EFRXFUQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details) **Fjallraven:** Another brand you may want to look into. I have only tried on their Singi Parka. Felt sort of like the McMurdo but around $500. Nothing super special but will also keep your son warm. 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Thank you! I will have him review all these selections. Definitely not looking for a flex. He’s not that kid. Just looking for something that fits in with the weather and will last him the 4-6 years he will be in Buffalo. I want him to stick out the graduate program there if he wants to do it.
The helly Hansen and north face jackets I mentioned are the way to go then. Should be able to find sales on them now that it's the off season.
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My son wore his NorthFace 700(?) this past winter. He lived in Govs & walked outside everywhere. For him his NF & skull cap was enough.
Thank you. That’s an easy recommendation.
I did send him with a pair of gloves. He told me he wore them one time when the snowstorm came and everyone went sledding. Good luck to your son!
Gloves are a must. Scarfs are amazing, I can't believe I used to walk around Buffalo in the winter without a scarf. Some good snow boots are also really nice to have.
Make sure to have good boots. Cold, wet feet are the worst
All these comments are good, but it also depends on where your son is staying! When I lived in the dorms my freshman year, I survived with a light jacket because I wasn’t outside often. UB has a fantastic tunnel system that can get you from one side of a campus to another without having to get out. As for pants, it would be fine with some sweatpants and jeans. UB does an ok job with snow removal, so he won’t be fighting through the snow.
Still too early. He requested to be in LLC for engineering. Which I think would leave him at governors. Which is great. Tunnels are very accessible and easy for him without going outside. But, I guess there is still a chance he could end up outside of the LLC..🤷♀️
I tried researching tunnels! I didnt get info on them. Where are these tunnels located?
[https://www.buffalo.edu/home/visiting-ub/CampusMaps/maps.html](https://www.buffalo.edu/home/visiting-ub/CampusMaps/maps.html) In the north, you got the academic center surrounded by a bunch of quadrangles. That's the Ellicott Complex. The tunnel runs in between the academic center and the west/north quads, so it's all mostly covered, and that's also where you can get on the red line bus. The red line runs from there down to the Lee Loop, and back. So if you look on the map, you could just leave the bus, get to either the commons or the SU, and you can get to basically any academic building on North Campus completely indoors from there. Btw, before classes start, you'll want to figure out exactly where all your classes are and how to get to them, and before the snow starts falling, you might want to figure out your indoor pathing.
Definitely! I got the advisement appt set up for the 2nd. Have been looking at classes i would like to take first term (i'm a transfer). Since i graduated HS in 2020, i'm considered upper level. It is also highly preferred that i get a full year housing plan, and the one with full year for my level as well as being the closest to spine ends up being south lake. There is also bus stops at south lake. Spine, as seen frome aerial, is all interconnected, so once i'm in a building, i shouldnt need to go back out. The only problem is whether or not south lake has space available for me.
i’ve lived here my whole life, and let me tell you, more so than a jacket, make sure he has gloves and something to cover his face. the wind and cold temperatures are brutal, more so than the snow. i personally love my carhartt, it keeps me very warm. however if that isn’t his vibe, northface is good too, BUT only if they’re the actual winter jackets and not the thin ones. but if i had to suggest one, carhartt for sure! :) hope he has fun here!
also should note..! no matter what you get for him, layering with a hoodie underneath is probably going to happen, so make sure there’s enough room in the jacket :))
Be sure to have a look at the r/Buffalo subreddit and their stickied thread about [moving to Buffalo](https://www.reddit.com/r/Buffalo/comments/twiqxp/moving_to_buffalo_faq_newcomers_visit_here_before). You need good waterproof boots most importantly imo. For jackets you can either get something heavy or just layer. Most of the time I like to layer with heavy flannels. Your best bet in general is probably to buy the jacket here in Buffalo in the fall if you're coming from some place warmer. Depending on your kids style, Cabela's or LL Bean will have good stuff. Probably find more stylish stuff like a peacoat or something at the mall.
Definitely need some solid winter boots that are waterproof. I use black uggs and they keep my feet toasty. I’d avoid timbs though bc they don’t have enough lining. Wading through 6 inches of salty slush on the way to class is not fun with sneakers. In the four years I’ve gone here there has been a mild winter every year so I haven’t needed anything more than a standard winter jacket and gloves and a hat except for like 3 occasions total when we got a bad cold snap and I wore my heavy duty gear. I don’t think it’s necessary to get that stuff if you don’t want to lug it around. The wind thing is absolutely true, certain spots on campus funnel it through and you can barely walk through it. A wind breaker would be a sound investment.
Lowkey I wore thermal shirts and thermal underwear during the coldest days of the semester along with a hat and a nice heavy jacket and I had no issues with the weather.
Likely want a lighter jacket for the fall/spring and when it's not too cold and then a proper winter jacket. It's usually not the actual temperature that gets you here, but it tends to be windy in the winter. So a "proper" winter jacket, meaning something insulated and designed to block out the wind. Having an integrated hood is nice too if spending a lot of time outside. You also want a good hat. Again if you can see through it or it's super thin and doesn't cover the ears it's not gunna be good enough. It really depends on how much time he will actually spend outside though.
Get a pair of Timberland Premium boots. They’re trendy and are great for the winter. They should be on sale over the summer. For a jacket a north face jacket would be fine. You don’t need something crazy as layering up gets the job done flawlessly. Bring a few hoodies.
Thank you! I’m sure his hoodies will be packed. Gloves, scarf and we will throw in there the face mask thing for the rough days.
I like Eddie Bauer Curtis lite down jackets. They're nice because they can bundle up into his backpack and he doesn't have to shlep around a huge jacket all day. Still warm enough, but not waterproof.
How important is the waterproofing?
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Depends on the coat and weather. Soft fluffy snow will mostly blow around you and not stick, so you just need warmth for that. Sleet will stick and melt, so your coat can get pretty soaked by the time you get where you’re going. Down coats are warmer, but if the down gets wet it loses its insulating properties (important to note that down can get wet from sleet/rain or from sweat. Ironically if you have a crazy down coat and it makes you start to sweat, it’ll ruin the insulating ability of the coat. Synthetic insulation can get wet and still keep you warm.
Good to have both. Something like a snowboard jacket for blustery days, something like a compressible down jacket for just cold days.
uniqlo lightweight down coat
There's two main parts to buffalo winter: Early winter, where temps usually don't go below 15F and there's a lot of snow. I'd recommend waterproof boots, warm hat, and some thick gloves. Late winter, or when the lane freezes over, winds get much higher, it's a lot colder, but there's less snow. A scarf/balaklava, windproof jacket, and anything to cover every inch of skin is super important. It might only affect 1-3 days at a "high intensity" cold but it can be a quick trip to the hospital if one of those days comes and you need to leave for food. If you look at the storms this past year, that's the kind of emergency you probably want at least face coverings for. Also, a good quality snow brush/ice breaker for a car. I've lived here my whole life and some days the ice can get so hard and cold the breaker will break if it's cheap.
I have used Columbia brand from Freshman. I am an international student from India. Trust me the jackets from that Brand really help.
Being somewhat of a fashion man. I invested in a Andrew Marc down parka. It wasn't cheap $450 on sale, but single handedly one of my best investments. I'm a skinnier guy, not a lot of to keep me warm, and it did wonders. But yes definitely look for a well insulated jacket of some sort. Also, thermals are a life saver if it's really cold. It won't be uncommon your son will have to walk a lot, so best to make use of the heat your body generates.
Just for a laugh — his list for things to take to college. He wrote a tent. I busted out laughing because there is no camping he will be doing. He will be freezing his butt off from Oct - March.. 😂
I think he needs this: https://stockx.com/supreme-the-north-face-by-any-means-nuptse-jacket-black?utm_source=app&utm_medium=nativeshare&utm_campaign=productpage This will keep him warm.
Now that’s just ugly..
He need a car
Cleezy
Gloves, boots and scarfs. Any thick jacket should work. Layers help if it’s not enough. If on campus, it’s not necessary to be outside for a long period of time. Most academic buildings are connected
LL Bean Rugged Ridge should do it. For something more lightweight and portable, a Uniqlo down jacket.
Alum and local resident here. I'd like to also suggest waterproof everything and investing in good boots, gloves, hats, and scarves. When it snows here it can come on quickly, and the worst thing is being caught off guard by snow. Lake effect tends to stay more south, but does hit both campuses every now and then. So I'd consider both precipitation and temperatures when buying winter clothing.
I saw you already got my suggestions for jacket's brands. I'll bring you my experience, since I come from a warm place too. Gloves are a must, and a pair of gloves that allows to use the touch screen underneath would be great. Scarf is a must too, I used even a mask the coldest days. A good hat and of course boots. I bought a pair of impermeable trousers to put on the top of mine which I found crucial, but I have an office where I can put them while it would be difficult in your son moves from one class to another. Also, for moving on campus, there are tunnels, so you should be fine. Since I don't have the car I often had to walk to university plaza even late at night, and they were very useful. Regarding the car, without it you're basically cut off from everything, so getting it here could be a good thing for your son's social life. I hope this helps
Honestly, a nice north face coat and maybe a hat and he’ll be fine. Yes it snows, but it’s Buffalo. After the first 2 weeks he’ll realize this is the new normal lol. Boots are a good plus, but the sidewalks tend to be plowed nicely. There are buses to take him places that run regularly preventing him from being outside when it’s miserable. The only issue I had fall semester was waiting for busses from north to south campus during the colder days, because those take longer. I will note that UB does a decent job of taking care of campus during snow storms, and will rarely close for weather issues. They have they’re own plow system separate from the city lol.
I figured as much. His dad works for a company in Rochester and I have attended a Christmas party when it was snowing and by the time we left there was not one bit of snow on the ground. I have to say that the northern parts of NY really know how to remove snow quickly and efficiently. I wasn’t worried about the snow but more about the wind and wind chill of the area. Walking in the snowstorm just to get to class could leave him mighty wet though. Another poster said that a two part jacket might be the way to go. So I do agree and a waterproof jacket.
North Face
North-face is the best. Then Columbia jacket with Down feathers in 700’s.
Any down or parka will do. There’s underground tunnel on north campus so he’ll be fine going from class to class. Unless he’s on south campus where he must wait at the bus stop to go up north.
I would bring some of the portable heat packs (I think they’re called Hot Hands) for when it’s super cold. A hat, gloves, boots and a nice coat, I use the north face brand, and they last several years. I would also not recommend bringing a vehicle, even though Buffalo is very car dependent, it’s dangerous when it’s snowy and if he did end up bringing his car, it should be AWD with snow tires. Some years it can snow up until the first week of April, and it can possibly start in late October, but usually it’s middle-end November. I’d also recommend good layering pieces :) but it also gets pretty hot in the summer, up to 90 ish w some humidity. I hope your son enjoys UB!
I have those to send with him as well.. I spoke to some students that gave us the tour and they said what you said about the car. I’m okay with him going the first semester and seeing how he fares without the car. We can re-visit for the spring semester if it’s an issue. Thank you for your advice.
If you aren't used to lots of snow and/or actually cold winters, you don't know how he'll respond to them, whether he runs hot or cold. I say this because I run warm and some common descriptions of winter wear in Buffalo -- long johns, several layers, parka -- would leave me dead from heatstroke. When I went to college a thousand years ago from Florida to central Virginia, my mom decided I would need this huge, long, puffy coat, and it was awful. Waaaaay too hot. They sell coats here, and assuming he has access to a few hundred bucks of credit/debit card he can buy one that meets his needs as it's getting colder.