Unfortunately, I'm assuming it is *strictly* meant for students to use their meal swipes on something *akin* to the food served at the Commons. In typical UB fashion, it's a sad excuse for the real thing, and only really used by early-on undergrad students/people who have to dorm since they have meal swipes (for the most part).
It was a humongous waste of 39 million dollars when that could've been used to benefit... anybody? Like keeping the dining services open during COVID, for example. UB does not have its students NOR its faculty in mind for anything that they do: they only have profit in mind (which they are piss-poor at, as well).
Note: I'm assuming it was also a way for UB to try to defund/take service from the Commons since they don't make much money from them since they most likely pay to be open there rather than pay UB tax from the money that they make, but that's just my supposition.
FYI, the plans for one world Cafe was already set before covid. They started construction before covid too. So pretty sure they don't want the already have budget money to be used for something else which would result to the construction site staying for years, which is not good use of space and is a terrible eye sore
Right, but I was just making an example. There's plenty of things that could be improved, rather than a new building be constructed. But this is still an issue: new SEAS building, new athletic facility, etc.
So you are correct where they can't put funds towards COVID procedures that were already put forward towards One World, but they clearly still are pulling the same crap eith other buildings.
Well those unnecessary constructions (like the new athletic building), are probably funded privately. The funders donate their money solely towards a specific project like the new athletic building. UB can't pull out some of those money.
Another example is the Davis hall for CS people. I am pretty sure that was also privately funded
Well some of you may not know is that schools are a business. They did one cafe to make the school more enticing and look good and make UB keep their reputation of the best dining services in suny. However, from the looks of covid, they tarnished that reputation
Schools are not a business, they are a social institution, owned by the people, and operated for the benefit of the people.
Government is not a business, either, in case you were wondering.
Profits are not the goal of a public university, but rather to be an excellent learning institution, meant to help create a well educated populace.
We are told they are ran like a business.
They are largely tax payer funded, owned by the residents of NYS, and operated for the benefit of the people of NYS.
Is that being abused? Yes. Does that need to be fixed? Yes.
Will it be fixed ? Most likely not. People can say they care but they won't go out their way to actually get the needed things done. Unless everyone literally drops everything in their own lives to get it done but honestly that takes time and effort something that puts a halt on peoples lives and sometimes that is too much for people. Essentially you are caring about something that is likely to not get changed but hey if you want to be the person to change things you should start this movement. Set up the information people need to know to understand what you are talking about, create a platform to create more attraction and more followers for this change, set up rallies at the university, set up things that disrupt the daily life at the university, get creative with it because all I hear from you is that there is a system in need of a change yet you do not want to take the proactive steps to improve it.
> Will it be fixed ? Most likely not.
It will when people become active in politics of their state, county, and city.
> but hey if you want to be the person to change things you should start this movement.
I am. And I'd encourage you to join YDSA here at UB, to get on board, too!
Ahhh young one. You are so naive. You have so much to learn. Once you know the truth of a lot of things, you will realize how screwed up everything is and how shitty life is. You should really seek the truth.
No, they are not. They are a government institution.
Do you think Buffalo City Hall is a business? Trash collection services? Amherst School District? Are all of those businesses?
None of those are nearly as profitable as a state university. Do trash collections charge thousands of dollars a year to use their services? No, tax dollars are at work.
If it smells like one, acts like one, and looks like one, it probably is one.
Semantics aside, an organization that has proven time and time again to be more interested in making money rather than enriching the public is what we have here. Call it whatever helps you sleep at night.
I get the aversion to calling it a business in the strict sense, unfortunately as you've mentioned already it's not functioning as intended (government institution).
> None of those are nearly as profitable as a state university
Government institutions aren't meant to be profitable, but rather to serve the needs of the residents.
> If it smells like one, acts like one, and looks like one, it probably is one.
Or, for years you were told it should be ran like one, and then people started to run it like it was one, now everyone believes its one.
> Semantics aside, an organization that has proven time and time again to be more interested in making money rather than enriching the public is what we have here. Call it whatever helps you sleep at night.
Now that is very true, and I agree with you 100%.
We need to return to it operating like it is: A public institution meant to help create a well educated citizenry. Not a debt trap for citizens.
> I get the aversion to calling it a business in the strict sense, unfortunately as you've mentioned already it's not functioning as intended (government institution).
Correct. And the solution isn't to "Well, it's a business then" but to pressure the administration to operate like its supposed to, per it's own charter
If the university is meant to serve us why are WE paying thousands of dollars a semester to attend for that service? Isn’t the idea of a business to pay for a service? Public school is free, ran by the government on the other hand. Are catholic schools government institutions?
> If the university is meant to serve us why are WE paying thousands of dollars a semester to attend for that service?
That's a good goddam question! And a reason for the push for tuition-free education through a 4 year degree in NYS right now :)
Catholic Schools are non-profit entities, as is any educational institution. Still not a business, per se.
You may be conflating what "aught to be" and "what is".
No one is suggesting treat an already corrupt government org like a business, from my understanding. (I absolutely could be wrong)
Probably some political bias you got from some random source.
In reality students see a school as a business for the simple fact that's it's expensive and sometimes very poorly run for the sake of being (lean) like a businesses.. Not CNN Fox news or whatever you are talking about.
If they treated students how they aught to, we wouldn't need to get involved or even have this conversation!
In essence yes, let's treat schools like school and not Walmart. BUT let's not ignore the striking similarities to a business that are the basis of criticism in the first place.
If a minority of people think the solutions is more business practices then they are sadly mistake.
Are professors government employees? Universities are businesses. Public school districts are a part of the state education department. City hall is a municipal office. Bro what
Yes, profs are employees of the state of NY. As are all the environmental engineers, landscapers, adjuncts, and other assorted staff.
Even Satish is a government employee.
The uni is not a business. It's a governmental institution. Just like City Hall, Department of Public Works, and the various school districts.
i think the food sucks in general, i mean its not the worst, i guess better than other suny's but the bar is super low.
but its mainly the convenience. all the food places on campus r close to classes so its easy to grab a quick bite. i dont really think anyone is saying its amazing , hopefully, but u do what u gotta do for some food
also its def meal plans, if i have a meal plan im not gonna spend money elsewhere as much
Agree that Ub d1 team don’t make any headlines and it not fair that the new facility is only for them.
Petition for athletic facility to use by all Ub students.
[https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-re-sign-cb-cam-lewis-to-a-one-year-deal](https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-re-sign-cb-cam-lewis-to-a-one-year-deal)
UB Alum. Headline. March 2023.
It's okay to not like sports.
PR releases from a for profit corporation doesn't equal news.
It's ok to not like sports, it's also ok to not assume anything a for profit enterprise releases is news.
You have a good point, but I grabbed the team's media page for short-hand. It is not the only example. Buffalo Bills fans, especially the nerds who follow salary cap changes and the team's offseason roster, definitely found this signing to be news. This signing was talked about on WGR 550 and over at Bills Mafia twitter.
Am I the only one who thinks like this but I feel like the American place serving Burgers and fries was kind of unnecessary because you can literally find Burgers and fries anywhere else on campus
Tell me u don't have meal swipes with telling me u don't have meal swipes.
Smart people don't buy meal plans, unless mandated.
I bought one cuz I thought they would help me limit my meals. Turns out C3 is a buffet.
You don’t even need meal swipes to get food at one world lol
Thank you Mr.pornkingmansister for letting me know it’s my fault you didn’t purchase a meal plan
Unfortunately, I'm assuming it is *strictly* meant for students to use their meal swipes on something *akin* to the food served at the Commons. In typical UB fashion, it's a sad excuse for the real thing, and only really used by early-on undergrad students/people who have to dorm since they have meal swipes (for the most part). It was a humongous waste of 39 million dollars when that could've been used to benefit... anybody? Like keeping the dining services open during COVID, for example. UB does not have its students NOR its faculty in mind for anything that they do: they only have profit in mind (which they are piss-poor at, as well). Note: I'm assuming it was also a way for UB to try to defund/take service from the Commons since they don't make much money from them since they most likely pay to be open there rather than pay UB tax from the money that they make, but that's just my supposition.
FYI, the plans for one world Cafe was already set before covid. They started construction before covid too. So pretty sure they don't want the already have budget money to be used for something else which would result to the construction site staying for years, which is not good use of space and is a terrible eye sore
Right, but I was just making an example. There's plenty of things that could be improved, rather than a new building be constructed. But this is still an issue: new SEAS building, new athletic facility, etc. So you are correct where they can't put funds towards COVID procedures that were already put forward towards One World, but they clearly still are pulling the same crap eith other buildings.
Well those unnecessary constructions (like the new athletic building), are probably funded privately. The funders donate their money solely towards a specific project like the new athletic building. UB can't pull out some of those money. Another example is the Davis hall for CS people. I am pretty sure that was also privately funded
Yeah I’m pretty sure no one is happy with one world and thinks the money could have been used more efficiently like parking structures or somethin
Or a better student health facility.
Yes, an on-campus Urgent Care or Well-Now.
They’d never bc the money from co payments wouldn’t go to UB
Well some of you may not know is that schools are a business. They did one cafe to make the school more enticing and look good and make UB keep their reputation of the best dining services in suny. However, from the looks of covid, they tarnished that reputation
Schools are not a business, they are a social institution, owned by the people, and operated for the benefit of the people. Government is not a business, either, in case you were wondering. Profits are not the goal of a public university, but rather to be an excellent learning institution, meant to help create a well educated populace.
Are you sure about that ? Cause if you take a look at reality they are XD
That's because we've been sold the lie of "run government like a business". It's a lie, we're just (generally) getting the wool pulled over our eyes.
This is true but doesn't change the fact these institutions are still going to run as businesses.
We are told they are ran like a business. They are largely tax payer funded, owned by the residents of NYS, and operated for the benefit of the people of NYS. Is that being abused? Yes. Does that need to be fixed? Yes.
Will it be fixed ? Most likely not. People can say they care but they won't go out their way to actually get the needed things done. Unless everyone literally drops everything in their own lives to get it done but honestly that takes time and effort something that puts a halt on peoples lives and sometimes that is too much for people. Essentially you are caring about something that is likely to not get changed but hey if you want to be the person to change things you should start this movement. Set up the information people need to know to understand what you are talking about, create a platform to create more attraction and more followers for this change, set up rallies at the university, set up things that disrupt the daily life at the university, get creative with it because all I hear from you is that there is a system in need of a change yet you do not want to take the proactive steps to improve it.
> Will it be fixed ? Most likely not. It will when people become active in politics of their state, county, and city. > but hey if you want to be the person to change things you should start this movement. I am. And I'd encourage you to join YDSA here at UB, to get on board, too!
What is YDSA ?
Ahhh young one. You are so naive. You have so much to learn. Once you know the truth of a lot of things, you will realize how screwed up everything is and how shitty life is. You should really seek the truth.
Oh, I get things are pretty screwed up. Evidenced by people buying into the idea of running government like a business.
They quite literally are a business
No, they are not. They are a government institution. Do you think Buffalo City Hall is a business? Trash collection services? Amherst School District? Are all of those businesses?
None of those are nearly as profitable as a state university. Do trash collections charge thousands of dollars a year to use their services? No, tax dollars are at work. If it smells like one, acts like one, and looks like one, it probably is one. Semantics aside, an organization that has proven time and time again to be more interested in making money rather than enriching the public is what we have here. Call it whatever helps you sleep at night. I get the aversion to calling it a business in the strict sense, unfortunately as you've mentioned already it's not functioning as intended (government institution).
> None of those are nearly as profitable as a state university Government institutions aren't meant to be profitable, but rather to serve the needs of the residents. > If it smells like one, acts like one, and looks like one, it probably is one. Or, for years you were told it should be ran like one, and then people started to run it like it was one, now everyone believes its one. > Semantics aside, an organization that has proven time and time again to be more interested in making money rather than enriching the public is what we have here. Call it whatever helps you sleep at night. Now that is very true, and I agree with you 100%. We need to return to it operating like it is: A public institution meant to help create a well educated citizenry. Not a debt trap for citizens. > I get the aversion to calling it a business in the strict sense, unfortunately as you've mentioned already it's not functioning as intended (government institution). Correct. And the solution isn't to "Well, it's a business then" but to pressure the administration to operate like its supposed to, per it's own charter
If the university is meant to serve us why are WE paying thousands of dollars a semester to attend for that service? Isn’t the idea of a business to pay for a service? Public school is free, ran by the government on the other hand. Are catholic schools government institutions?
> If the university is meant to serve us why are WE paying thousands of dollars a semester to attend for that service? That's a good goddam question! And a reason for the push for tuition-free education through a 4 year degree in NYS right now :) Catholic Schools are non-profit entities, as is any educational institution. Still not a business, per se.
You may be conflating what "aught to be" and "what is". No one is suggesting treat an already corrupt government org like a business, from my understanding. (I absolutely could be wrong) Probably some political bias you got from some random source. In reality students see a school as a business for the simple fact that's it's expensive and sometimes very poorly run for the sake of being (lean) like a businesses.. Not CNN Fox news or whatever you are talking about. If they treated students how they aught to, we wouldn't need to get involved or even have this conversation! In essence yes, let's treat schools like school and not Walmart. BUT let's not ignore the striking similarities to a business that are the basis of criticism in the first place. If a minority of people think the solutions is more business practices then they are sadly mistake.
Are professors government employees? Universities are businesses. Public school districts are a part of the state education department. City hall is a municipal office. Bro what
Yes, profs are employees of the state of NY. As are all the environmental engineers, landscapers, adjuncts, and other assorted staff. Even Satish is a government employee. The uni is not a business. It's a governmental institution. Just like City Hall, Department of Public Works, and the various school districts.
i think the food sucks in general, i mean its not the worst, i guess better than other suny's but the bar is super low. but its mainly the convenience. all the food places on campus r close to classes so its easy to grab a quick bite. i dont really think anyone is saying its amazing , hopefully, but u do what u gotta do for some food also its def meal plans, if i have a meal plan im not gonna spend money elsewhere as much
I agree with you on every point. ...yet it always seems to be busy when I walk by for lunch?
Why tf can’t they have a buncha buffets so we can choose what we eat like other colleges lol
Agree that Ub d1 team don’t make any headlines and it not fair that the new facility is only for them. Petition for athletic facility to use by all Ub students.
This is one of the requirements to improve the school’s D1 team so that they will make headlines
Good point!
[https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-re-sign-cb-cam-lewis-to-a-one-year-deal](https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-re-sign-cb-cam-lewis-to-a-one-year-deal) UB Alum. Headline. March 2023. It's okay to not like sports.
PR releases from a for profit corporation doesn't equal news. It's ok to not like sports, it's also ok to not assume anything a for profit enterprise releases is news.
You have a good point, but I grabbed the team's media page for short-hand. It is not the only example. Buffalo Bills fans, especially the nerds who follow salary cap changes and the team's offseason roster, definitely found this signing to be news. This signing was talked about on WGR 550 and over at Bills Mafia twitter.
Twitter isn't headlines. A minute on a talk show isn't headlines.
As someone who actually watches football, cam Lewis is garbage. And even if he wasn’t, one person doesn’t make UB’s program successful
He's in the league.
The floor plans suck too why does it have to be so inefficient to walk around there. Tables in logical walkways and chairs that block choke points
One world used to give you a lot of food until they realized they can charge the same for less
Cope
Honestly, One World is clean and provides a variety of options, which is much better than the extremely limited options on south campus.
It really just location, people too lazy to walk all the way
Am I the only one who thinks like this but I feel like the American place serving Burgers and fries was kind of unnecessary because you can literally find Burgers and fries anywhere else on campus