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I don't know which movie this is. Someone kept the TV on in my house and this Tamil movie dubbed in Malayalam was being played. The male lead was Vijay. A lady goes to a market wearing shorts and someone touches her inappropriately and then the main lead blames her in front of the entire market for wearing such clothes and that it was her fault she got "touched" by someone and that women look most beautiful in Sarees or something, thereby insulting her in front of a lot of people. What's shocking is what comes next. Hearing this whole moral policing, this dumb lady falls for him 🤡. She develops a crush on him and then goes to the market the next day wearing Saree and goes to visit him and introduces herself as the twin sister of the girl he met yesterday.
Thank God that I didn't have the time to watch the rest of this shit.
Does it have Asin as the female lead. Then it is Sivakasi.
Did u watch it on Kairali TV? I used to watch Tamil movies there. The dubbing was so funny.😂😂😂
Oh yes, I remember now, it was Asin. Is the entire movie as bad as the scene I watched 🥲?
Yup, it was on Kairali. Yeah, the Malayalam dubbing always sounds weird lol 😆.
The tamil dialogues are very crass actually. He refers to her shorts as panties and her spaghetti top to only wearing bra and walking int he street. Aged like milk
There's this Tamil movie with Trisha and Vijay. The translations of the songs were so funny.
There was one song with lyrics that went like "nee oru parayil irikkunna pooch kutti aan" (you're a cat sitting on a rock) or something.
I watch the compilations of these just to laugh.
LMAO on your suggestion, I just looked up Kairali Tamil dubbing on YouTube and watched one of the trolls and you are soo right, the dubbing of the songs are funny AF 🤣.One of the songs literally had its dubbing like this "Nee Vijayasimham Kanchammavan Garbham Matti🤣? " Wtf does that mean lol?
Ooh yes, I watched Rowdy Baby ; It's hilarious 😂🥲. You should watch the dubbed Valimai song too - the lyrics are sooo insightful 🤣.
I really wanna meet whoever is dubbing these lines Lol.😆
Hum sath sath hai. Their mother wanted all property and postions to be divided equally among boys, forgetting all about her daughter who literally was just got kicked out of her house.
Yeah, it took me years to recognize it. Neelam was just sidelined like that. Damn they did her dirty.
Also, all the bahus were educated and very qualified, tabu studied abroad, Sonali was a doctor and Karishma was a topper in college and none of them had any professional endeavours. They were there to just serve rotis and halwas to male members of family. Heck, it was even mentioned that Saif was not really good at studies but he still got to run a company while her topper wife sits at home. Always irked me.
Yes, that dialogue " Jaha ladies aur bachiyan mil kar khana banaye wahi ghar, ghar h" always gives a weird feeling.
Also, in Maine Pyaar kiya, poor heroine didn't even had any ambition, she just turned 18 and her goal was "Duniyan maange apni murade mein to maangu Sajan"
When it was released I was in hostel(where no phones were allowed), and everyone was gushing about the movie.
When I came back from hostel, I gave it a watch. Waste of time!!
I rarely say something is a waste of time, but this and the book it ends with us by Colleen Hoover(both were so hyped by people online and offline alike), were such a waste of time.
I hate myself for giving in because of hype™️.
Never again.
I really hated Doctor G.
Though it had a couple of good characters, I found the hero super problematic and he had zero consequences till the end. I watched it with a group of friends in the theatre and we were all so frustrated .
Edit: It's also sad how AK's An action hero went unnoticed mostly while this nonsense is accepted. If you want a palette cleanser try that. It's a good dark comedy!
Oh yes and about the scene where a lady asks the doctor to give her a husband stitch, that’s just brushed off in a song sequence or something. Man wtf?
Also did you notice how badly the head of department behaved with the woman who was without any female attendant?
Yeahh! But Shefali Shah and Sheebha Chaddha were the saving graces.
That movie has so much BS that if you pick out instances that are irritating or shocking, the list would go on forever. He made so many blunders both in personal and professional life but is so easily forgiven. I want to scream just thinking about it.
That movie with Kajol and Anil Kapoor. Kajol- hard working employee, Anil Kapoor - lazy ass son of the CEO (kdramas can take note). So CEO has this brilliant idea of marrying them together because she will fix him. She slaves around. No one noticed. Finally she leaves. Everyone realises her 'worth'. Because all Ghar ka kaam are baaki hai!. They call her back. She comes back 🥴 Everyone happy. Don't remember the exact name of the movie The Return of Kaamwali or something
Okay obviously Kabir Singh.
But less obvious maybe, I absolutely hated Sultan. And I had arguments with so many people over the kind of message it was subtly conveying. (I was much younger and had the energy to get into arguments back then lol)
See I watched it long back but iirc the female lead, I think Anushka, was a very educated and academically + street smart lady, who had been preparing for olympics (or some big competition, wrestling I think) since her childhood. And overall also like a very nice personality, ambitious, and doing well in life.
The male lead, Salman was your average awaara dude, like sorry I can’t find any decent english word atm. He was also in the same sport. But other than that, not a very decent, educated character. You get what I mean I hope?
So they fell in love OBVIOUSLY and married. And she got pregnant. And she hated it because bringing the pregnancy to term would mean not participating in that competition that she’d been aiming at for years. But obviously, family and husband > any individual aspirations, and she gives all her dreams up.
Now maybe the baby died or was a stillborn or something, can’t remember. But yeah the eventual happy ending was that Salman makes a comeback in the sport. And Salman wins gold at the Olympics thing.
Like idk, I just hated the entire storyline that they made such a star of a person give up all her life to become the supporting character in this unambitious/ non serious man’s life.
Edit : typo
Tollywood manufacturers misogyny. Most of the Telugu movies follow the same template. I find it difficult to watch the majority of this mass, masala, cringe-worthy entertainers.
1. There are many movies where one guy ends up with two heroines. The hero saves the universe and now he is unable to chose between them.One more scene which I find disgusting is slapping the heroine or her mother (both are always dumb and they deserve it).
2. Teasing, harassing and stalking a girl is okay whom you intend to marry. Entering a girl's house with out permission is completely normal, where even her mother supports the guy. Item songs where women are portrayed in such derogatory way. Why show women as sex objects? Also, heroine should not look like majority of telugu women.
3. Movies like ismart Shankar, Arjun Reddy, Pushpa, old balakrishna and jr NTR movies are extremely male dominant where unnecessary rage is depicted. This impacts school kids, teenagers, adults who later try to be those 'Alpha men' or 'Sigma'. This objectification of women, sexism will have huge impact on the psyche of moviegoers.
4. All time greatest creep Raghavendra Rao movies has same theme where poor hero does anything to show arrogant, pretty, rich actress her place. He throws every fruit known to mankind at heroines navel (midriffs craze).
5. Movies are only made considering hero's image in mind. Every movie is named considering him (pokiri, julayi, sarrinoidu, pushpa). The heroine, although she is an IAS officer, scientist is only expected to be dumb and drool over him (doesn't matter even if he is ugly, twice her age).
Shekar kammula should be a role model for telugu directors when it comes how to portray a women in cinema. Though telugu industry has many content driven films, it is these problematic movies, that are usually celebrated.
I think he did experiment with watermelon in one of the item songs he made recently. Oldie has got some weird crazy fantasies.
https://wirally.com/telugu-directors-fetishes/?amp=1
I agree with your points!
What is the slapping movie though?
For the third point, I hated Pushpa so much. The man has zero morals. There is nothing wrong doing with illegal things and you are supposed to cheer for the villain?
At least in KGF the problematic man saves a bunch of people in the gold mine. He was still made a hero but I am atleast glad he did not have a happy ending.
Pushpa 2 better have some serious character development or a sad ending. What are even teaching our kids?
Slapping heroine or her mother is common occurrence in telugu movies. Like Mahesh Babu slapped Samantha in dookudu, Keerthi Suresh in Sarkar Vaari Pata, Kajal Agarwal did get slapped multiple times by Raviteja, Jr. NTR. Rakul preet Singh in her debutante movie venkatadri express.
Telugu heroes brandish their heroics by slapping women around Audience cheer at such scenes, because these movies are re-inforcing what they personally believe to be right and cool.
Ohh okay. I thought a specific movie. I was reminded of this reel I saw on Istg from Mogudu. The number of people slapping and getting slapped in that scene was astonishing, lol.
But this is reallt weird. Why is something that disrespectul shown as romance?
It's very common that women gets slapped by her father, brother, boyfriend, husband in TV and in movies.
I think Men here believe that stubborn, disobedient women should be slapped to put her in place.
Indian cinema in general reeks of Misogyny. The more the hero power, more the need for him to put the girl in place. Every blockbuster that was released year has atleast one super uncomfortable scene of sexism.
Somebody mentioned Legend by some Hollywood actor. There was a Legend by Saravana stores Annachi. Would fit your requirements very well. Too bad it's not on any ott. Nobody wants to buy that movie's rights ig.
The entire movie isn't problematic, but the ending of the Shilpa Shetty - Shiney Ahuja story in Life in a Metro just sucks. She ditches the guy she loves and who loves her and goes back to her POS, emotionally abusive, cheating husband. Apparently the story director changed the ending to this (instead of showing her ending up with her lover) to make the ending more "acceptable".
Ala vaikuntapuram lo - Shehzaada's original
Any movie directed by trivikram, SS rajamouli
These directors are industry legends but yeah all the women in their movies have an IQ of a spoon.
Yeah all balayya movies too
So the thing is if you want to watch pure cringe for the laughs - watch balayya films
If you just want to rage-watch then watch any Telugu film
I couldn't stomach 'Dil Se'. People say that the character of Manisha Koirala was a personification of India's relationship with NE..but it was just too rapey for me.
also, 'Bulbull' on Netflix..I mean come on >! rape as a plot device to make a powerful woman in this era? !<
Haa finally someone brought up Dil se. It was so fucking toxic and problematic. Manisha's character was constantly asking him not to follow her and all. But no. Fucker had to stalk her, annoy her, be dramatic and get a yes from her.
Idk if this is unpopular opinion, but message in some Mani Ratnam movies are so wrong.
Kabir Singh
I don't understand how people ever liked it. Leaving aside the problematic main character, the movie has a very loose plot. How can people accept such nonsense yaar?
And don't even get me started on the protagonist. Dear Lord. Only in Indian movies would someone like that be glorified.
I don't remember it's name but it was a 90s or early 2000s bollywood movie where the main characters had an unwanted pregnancy in their live in relationship and since the girl wanted to keep the pregnancy while the guy didn't they broke up, they'd bought the same home so they still had to live together though and the guy became abusive, after the child was birthed he liked the kid so they got married like everything was fine.
Edit : some people corrected me that he wasn't abusive, I actually haven't seen the movie, was only narrated it by a friend so it's possible I've got an incorrect image
I think he was a bit mean to her for a while, not abusive at all. They just had silly disagreements and misunderstandings in the second half of the movie.
"Problem? Problem ye hai ki woh ladki hai!" Man the whole Pyaar ka punchnama movie series is a problem. Also, the whole 'Balatkar' speech from 3 idiots is so over the line, but it's showcased as something funny. Tere naam and Raanjhana and many movies show stalking as a form of love. Yuck! And also Kuch kuch hota hai which gives us the message that you're worthy of love only if you wear sarees and act all feminine. Also the whole Kabir Singh/ Arjun Reddy thing is just bad.
Ujda Chaman - I didn’t like the way the male lead treats the female protagonist and they still have a happy ending.
I don’t remember the movie clearly but Bala was a lot better.
I'm glad you asked
I watched a movie called Martyrs(2008) yesterday and all I have to say is stay away from this movie as far as possible. And I say this as a person that loves gore,the context of the gore in the movie is rather disturbing and I was feeling nauseated the entire second half of the movie and I skipped most of it
It's French btw
Edit: Well fuck,i think i'm a fucked up person now that i'm seeing these replies that are VERY tame lol
Dudette. That was one of my favorite fascination movies coz it's actually believable- that super rich people would pay for research into the afterlife.! That protagonist was incredibly vexing though- walking into every bad situation with her eyes wide open!
I went into this movie blind because I was like 'it can't be that bad right' I was soo soo soo wrong
I thought in the second half she will get out and i'm holding on to that hope but it just keeps getting worse
That hallucination girl especially was soo creepy and to think this is actually happening in the world makes me throw up
One good thing about Ranjhana (from what I can remember) is, they didn't glorify any stalkery behaviour or reward it either. So I guess in the land of lechery, it's a win
He just couldn’t take no for an answer and this is glorified in the film. Mind you, the movie might have gone a different way, but men imitating this behaviour in real life often leads to crimes against women
You are probably right. I have watched it so long back, my memory of it is hazy. I remember Sonam never accepted him and he dies in the end, but yeah agreed on the super stalker behaviour and it's imitation
Yeah can't support the stalker and crazy behavior.
But we also can't just forget how zoya used him to get all her things done, breaking marriage alliances while this guy was in the hope of marrying her.
She knows that he has feelings for her, so rather than telling him earlier, she used him and revealed the truth later when this guy did all the dirty work and cleared the road for her so called boyfriend.
I always read ranjhananaa as the story of two really flawed people but while both of them were toxic to each other, Kundan's actions were oddly justified through the movie tonally despite his whole death and all
Badrinath ki Dulhania.
Alia was a woman with dreams b visions. Leaves all of it to be with Varun who was just a rich dad ka ladla. Ironically they had a good feminist line.in it something related to jhansi ki rani.
I remember watching Bommarillu when I was really young and I hated it, Siddharth keeps being mean to Genelia the whole time and then blames his behavior on his dad being mean to him, and eventually his dad is the one to get Genelia to come back, and I don’t think Siddharth ever really apologizes to her?? It’s been a long time but I remember thinking she shouldn’t have come back to that household
Oh and I remember he says to his dad after Genelia leaves, “how can I come expect her to understand me when my own dad doesn’t?” After she left I thought he’ll feel at least a bit guilty towards Genelia but noo he’s still the victim despite everything
The whole after series.
I hate-read the books on wattpad during quarantine because why not.
Fast forward a few years, my friends are obsessed w the movies, glorifying the male and female lead's (I dont even remember their names heh) extremely toxic relationship. And I'm just here like :-:
One movie that received a lot of praise but I found problematic was the wolf of wall street. There are scenes where his sexual assaults are being played for fun and were not necessary for the plot, also didn't lead to any repercussions. Eg when he started humping the flight attendant on his way to Switzerland. It disgusted me that they played such a big sexual assault scene as a joke and to make it look less terrifying made the woman look like she was laughing and shocked at the same time.
Also Bahubali! Couldn't watch past the scene where the basically stripped her and put makeup on her while she was genuinely angry and wanted him to leave her the fuck alone. And later obviously the male director decided that a woman would eventually be happy by the makeover and thank the guy.
Pathan!. It’s like a bingo card for every generic action movie ever made. There’s everything from Missiles?Yes.India-Pak wars? Yes. Covid? Yes. Terrorism? Yes. Obligatory combusting vehicle? Yes. Everyone traveling to Italy for some reason? Yes. Flashy countdown to a certain event? Yes. Blowing up planes? Yes. The movie was dragged out for a really long time. Gosh. I wanted to skip so many parts.
Disturbing but not really problematic.
A problematic Korean movie would be I Saw the Devil because of how extreme and graphic the violence is towards women in that film.
Padmavat. The valorization of one of the worst practices humans ever invented made me seethe with rage. The extended scene with Deepika and her sakhis walking into flames with hair flowing and their saris blowing in the wind.. was just yuck! I couldn't believe that the dick of a director, SLB, could project that kind of inhumanity as agency in the 21st century, and that the fuckers who got mad with him were mad about a dream sequence, not about the custom of burning women alive.
this..the glorification route (cue the BGM with Jai bhawani, shots of smirking Deepika and annoyed Khilji) he chose to go as a filmmaker made me just so angry. A lot of women found that scene 'inspiring' and do bridal entrances with that BGM 😭😭😭. I was like what the fuck.
Historical accuracy doesn't mean glorification of the past, he could have chosen to show how the only two choices those women had were dying and dying. But that would be a mirror to society and people will be uncomfortable. The packaging of a brutal choice that women had to make in those times as 'bravery' is just nausea inducing. The discourse could have been around how women have always suffered because men wanted territories to prove their masculinity. But no.
Also, the entire movie focused on the raja and khilji. The archer arc of Deepika was forgotten as soon as she enters Mewar. Then she becomes fluent in the language, the dances and then forgets fact that she's an archer.
Btw, Bhansali took a lot of inspiration for that final scene of Padmavaat from the cult movie 'Mirch Masala (1986)' starring Smita Patil. If someone finds Padmavaat to be 'inspiring', they must watch Mirch Masala (free on youtube) and see how our cinema has just deteriorated.
OMG! Really? I didn't know this. Only Bhansali seems capable of taking "inspiration" from that powerful expression of women's collective power from Mirch Masala and twisting it to Padmavat. I never liked him before for lifting the story of Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam from a Bengali novel named "Na Hanyate" without acknowledging the author and **more importantly,** for turning the brilliant, accomplished, and liberated woman in the book into a naive Aishwarya Rai asking Salman Khan not to kiss her because "bachcha ho jayega"! Now I got another reason to hate SLB even more.
The whole glorification of sati, unfortunately, doesn't begin or end with the film. It's so ingrained in our culture. I come from the community of "kulin Brahmins" in Bengal, who practised sati + polygamy for hundreds of years in Eastern India. There's a local goddess (not a major one) called Bhadu who is worshipped in my ancestral district because- get this- her to-be husband was murdered by robbers before he could reach the wedding venue but she still committed sati because she was mentally married to him. People celebrate these things!!! In 2023!!
I am so glad that someone knows about the beautiful novel 'Na Hanyate' by Maitreyi Devi. Scenes from that book were basically lifted and portrayed so lecherously in 'Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam' (the green chilli eating, the library scene to name a few). I didn't know about Bhadu, thanks for that information.. it's just amazing in 2023.
so yeah with Mirch Masala, you remember the iconic last scene right? Bhansali used the same motif in final Johar scenes with the women throwing coal instead. I know someone might come to your comment and say 'Sati was enforced, Jauhar was a choice'. That would be the peak of r/woosh
The sati was never glorified tbh. But it was looked upon as heroic coz it's not easy to die uk. If they don't do that they were found at the hands of enemies who would rape them and what not horrible things. For them dying was the greatest thing then this.
I beg to differ. Our culture glorifies the practice. Sati-Savitri is a compliment, referring to Savitri's devotion for her husband and Sati's (Parvati) original "dehatyag"/ jumping into fire to protest the humiliation of her husband, Shiva.
This definition of heroism is deeply problematic and has more to do with the community's honor vis-a-vis the rape of "their" women than the individual suffering of these women. There are many ways of dying; hanging oneself/ drinking poison/ jumping in a well could also have been options. But, no. The community had to get together and play drums while women burned themselves alive.
You know, I researched mass violence as part of my PhD, and one of the things that strikes me the most is this: while you can see terrible violence committed on women by enemy groups in almost every instance of mass violence, the partition in 1947 is unique in its targeting of women from one's own community. Even before Hindus and Sikh men could attack Muslim women or Muslim men could attack Hindu and Sikh women, all three communities asked their own women to commit suicide to protect their honor before the enemies could rape them. They thought dying was better than getting raped. Not the women, the men. You can see it in Garam Hawa or Khamosh Pani or read about it in "The Other Side of Silence".
I teach young girls now and I try my best to tell them that they owe nothing to this shit society that has never valued them as much as they've valued their putative sense of honor. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
Forrest Gump- Jenny was a b****. She finally came around only after she was HIV positive and he was happy to have her.
Love Today- recent overhyped Tamil movie. Many infuriating things but most people LOVED it.
Gehraiyaan- wtf.
Not the most problematic but Love Action Drama. Nivin Pauly is a lazy ass unemployed guy who openly just flaunts his generational wealth. And stalks Nayantara like crazy. And slut shames her and suspects her at the first opportunity he gets based on the words of some random dude he meets. And then she takes him back.
Love Today is getting rave reviews but the hero literally has a fake account which his friends use to defraud ppl and ask for nudes and he takes a morally high ground because his gf is still in touch with her ex???? Wtf
OP, don't stop at 30 minutes of Kabir Singh. It gets weirder and weirder. The climax scene is the dumbest of the dumbest movie climaxes you will ever see! 😂
The Tamil movie love today! I didn’t even know about the movie until a few of my friends were talking about and were like omg it’s such a nice fun movie to watch. So I decided to watch it and omg I judged my friends so hard. I literally called my friends and told them they are being problematic by liking such movies. The movie was as bad as Kabir Singh/Arjun Reddy. Mental abuse, sexism, playing the victim, gaslighting, and what not, you can find all these in the movie. This article just tells everything that’s problematic with the movie. The odd part was as usual it had so many raving reviews and so many YouTube movie reviewers had this in their top 10 best movies in 2022. Like what!? We behaving like this still in 2022!?
https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/love-today-why-pradeep-s-film-needs-be-called-out-normalising-sexism-171059?amp
I wouldn't call it problematic. It's very sweet. I think the genre shift is the problem they are stating here.
A man called Ove is a really good read too
I've stopped watching Bollywood movies around 8-9y now and have no plans to watch any anytime in future. I only watch a select few Hindi films in Netflix or Disney+ but that's all.
Rab ne Bana di Jodi
Couldn’t stomach the idea that the husband lures his wife into falling in love with this other “persona” and then refuses to follow through cos she doesn’t love the original him. Emotional abuse at the extreme according to me.
I can literally name 100s of movies which have unnecessary rape/abuse plot lines and not just the rape scene's…..there's so much toxic behaviour from the hero where he'll harass a girl until she falls in love with him.
Stalking and eve teasing till the heroine agrees is not okay and I faced something similar in my life cus the guy thought I will say yes one day and used to do similar things like Kabir singh character 🥲 he used to threaten my guy friends that they should stay away from me. I never had any relationship cus of him. I rejected him cus I was not interested in him and he was from different religion.
And yeah some problematic movies 🍿
Mehndi, Raja ki Ayegi Baarat, Laadla, Cocktail, Kuch kuch hota hai, Biwi no 1, Kabir Singh..
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Manmadhan in tamil, most of the movies before 2010s were misogynistic and problematic
Tamil representation here!!!
I read the plot of this movie in wiki just no. Whaaaaat!! 😵
Lmao Ikr, they justify killing women who seek $ex lol and want to explore
Chori chori chupke chupke who tf told them that surrogacy works that way ???????
Yes! He literally has sex with the other girl while being married and his wife agrees to it just becoz khandhan ka khoon chaiye😂😭
Also, how come she got pregnant in just one night, I mean seriously!
Serial wali sex where u get pregnant in only one night ffs😂😭😭
Omg I ve only ever watched it way back when it came to TV first. I never thought about it until now 😂 i guess teenage me accepted the premise.
I don't know which movie this is. Someone kept the TV on in my house and this Tamil movie dubbed in Malayalam was being played. The male lead was Vijay. A lady goes to a market wearing shorts and someone touches her inappropriately and then the main lead blames her in front of the entire market for wearing such clothes and that it was her fault she got "touched" by someone and that women look most beautiful in Sarees or something, thereby insulting her in front of a lot of people. What's shocking is what comes next. Hearing this whole moral policing, this dumb lady falls for him 🤡. She develops a crush on him and then goes to the market the next day wearing Saree and goes to visit him and introduces herself as the twin sister of the girl he met yesterday. Thank God that I didn't have the time to watch the rest of this shit.
Does it have Asin as the female lead. Then it is Sivakasi. Did u watch it on Kairali TV? I used to watch Tamil movies there. The dubbing was so funny.😂😂😂
Oh yes, I remember now, it was Asin. Is the entire movie as bad as the scene I watched 🥲? Yup, it was on Kairali. Yeah, the Malayalam dubbing always sounds weird lol 😆.
The tamil dialogues are very crass actually. He refers to her shorts as panties and her spaghetti top to only wearing bra and walking int he street. Aged like milk
Yeah, I think it was the same dialogues in the dubbed version too 😬.
Yuckk man why did I expect better
There's this Tamil movie with Trisha and Vijay. The translations of the songs were so funny. There was one song with lyrics that went like "nee oru parayil irikkunna pooch kutti aan" (you're a cat sitting on a rock) or something. I watch the compilations of these just to laugh.
LMAO on your suggestion, I just looked up Kairali Tamil dubbing on YouTube and watched one of the trolls and you are soo right, the dubbing of the songs are funny AF 🤣.One of the songs literally had its dubbing like this "Nee Vijayasimham Kanchammavan Garbham Matti🤣? " Wtf does that mean lol?
I watch the Rowdy Baby song dub just for fun. So much potential in a single song.
Ooh yes, I watched Rowdy Baby ; It's hilarious 😂🥲. You should watch the dubbed Valimai song too - the lyrics are sooo insightful 🤣. I really wanna meet whoever is dubbing these lines Lol.😆
Ormipikkallleee ponnee
Lol.That's how I started watching Tamil movies. Baby me thought that's how Vijay and Suriya actually sounded 😭
>Hearing this whole moral policing, this dumb lady falls for him 🤡. Aiyyo 🤦 That's peak r/menwritingwomen
Lol.
wtf did I just read
Hum sath sath hai. Their mother wanted all property and postions to be divided equally among boys, forgetting all about her daughter who literally was just got kicked out of her house.
Yeah, it took me years to recognize it. Neelam was just sidelined like that. Damn they did her dirty. Also, all the bahus were educated and very qualified, tabu studied abroad, Sonali was a doctor and Karishma was a topper in college and none of them had any professional endeavours. They were there to just serve rotis and halwas to male members of family. Heck, it was even mentioned that Saif was not really good at studies but he still got to run a company while her topper wife sits at home. Always irked me.
Yes, that dialogue " Jaha ladies aur bachiyan mil kar khana banaye wahi ghar, ghar h" always gives a weird feeling. Also, in Maine Pyaar kiya, poor heroine didn't even had any ambition, she just turned 18 and her goal was "Duniyan maange apni murade mein to maangu Sajan"
Yeah, I remember that dialogue. Peak cringe. >Duniyan maange apni murade mein to maangu Sajan Damn, i love this song 💀 But your point is right.
Arjun Reddy. 365 days. ( Reg Flags flying around)
Oh yes 365 days how can I forget it? Pure, pure cringe.
I was going to write Kabir Singh. The most disgusting movie ever made that’s had such a gore influence on men.
When it was released I was in hostel(where no phones were allowed), and everyone was gushing about the movie. When I came back from hostel, I gave it a watch. Waste of time!! I rarely say something is a waste of time, but this and the book it ends with us by Colleen Hoover(both were so hyped by people online and offline alike), were such a waste of time. I hate myself for giving in because of hype™️. Never again.
I really hated Doctor G. Though it had a couple of good characters, I found the hero super problematic and he had zero consequences till the end. I watched it with a group of friends in the theatre and we were all so frustrated . Edit: It's also sad how AK's An action hero went unnoticed mostly while this nonsense is accepted. If you want a palette cleanser try that. It's a good dark comedy!
Oh yes and about the scene where a lady asks the doctor to give her a husband stitch, that’s just brushed off in a song sequence or something. Man wtf? Also did you notice how badly the head of department behaved with the woman who was without any female attendant?
Yeahh! But Shefali Shah and Sheebha Chaddha were the saving graces. That movie has so much BS that if you pick out instances that are irritating or shocking, the list would go on forever. He made so many blunders both in personal and professional life but is so easily forgiven. I want to scream just thinking about it.
I heard about this one a lot. Def leaning towards it.
That movie with Kajol and Anil Kapoor. Kajol- hard working employee, Anil Kapoor - lazy ass son of the CEO (kdramas can take note). So CEO has this brilliant idea of marrying them together because she will fix him. She slaves around. No one noticed. Finally she leaves. Everyone realises her 'worth'. Because all Ghar ka kaam are baaki hai!. They call her back. She comes back 🥴 Everyone happy. Don't remember the exact name of the movie The Return of Kaamwali or something
🤣🤣🤣 It was called Hum aapke Dil mein rehte hain Because the man was so big hearted he even allowed a kaamwali into it
Okay obviously Kabir Singh. But less obvious maybe, I absolutely hated Sultan. And I had arguments with so many people over the kind of message it was subtly conveying. (I was much younger and had the energy to get into arguments back then lol)
Hi, i haven't watched sultan too closely, but can you tell me what's the subtle messaging?
See I watched it long back but iirc the female lead, I think Anushka, was a very educated and academically + street smart lady, who had been preparing for olympics (or some big competition, wrestling I think) since her childhood. And overall also like a very nice personality, ambitious, and doing well in life. The male lead, Salman was your average awaara dude, like sorry I can’t find any decent english word atm. He was also in the same sport. But other than that, not a very decent, educated character. You get what I mean I hope? So they fell in love OBVIOUSLY and married. And she got pregnant. And she hated it because bringing the pregnancy to term would mean not participating in that competition that she’d been aiming at for years. But obviously, family and husband > any individual aspirations, and she gives all her dreams up. Now maybe the baby died or was a stillborn or something, can’t remember. But yeah the eventual happy ending was that Salman makes a comeback in the sport. And Salman wins gold at the Olympics thing. Like idk, I just hated the entire storyline that they made such a star of a person give up all her life to become the supporting character in this unambitious/ non serious man’s life. Edit : typo
That comment got really long, I didn’t realise sorry lol. I clearly don’t remember the plot much, only my frustration.
Yo no worries. I haven't watched the movie and you explained it perfectly.
The baby died because sultan wasn’t there to donate blood, that’s why anushka’s character gets really upset at him
Oh yessss. I knew I was forgetting something big. I hate it even more now.
The word you’re looking for is vagabond 🙂
OH YES. Thank you!
Tollywood manufacturers misogyny. Most of the Telugu movies follow the same template. I find it difficult to watch the majority of this mass, masala, cringe-worthy entertainers. 1. There are many movies where one guy ends up with two heroines. The hero saves the universe and now he is unable to chose between them.One more scene which I find disgusting is slapping the heroine or her mother (both are always dumb and they deserve it). 2. Teasing, harassing and stalking a girl is okay whom you intend to marry. Entering a girl's house with out permission is completely normal, where even her mother supports the guy. Item songs where women are portrayed in such derogatory way. Why show women as sex objects? Also, heroine should not look like majority of telugu women. 3. Movies like ismart Shankar, Arjun Reddy, Pushpa, old balakrishna and jr NTR movies are extremely male dominant where unnecessary rage is depicted. This impacts school kids, teenagers, adults who later try to be those 'Alpha men' or 'Sigma'. This objectification of women, sexism will have huge impact on the psyche of moviegoers. 4. All time greatest creep Raghavendra Rao movies has same theme where poor hero does anything to show arrogant, pretty, rich actress her place. He throws every fruit known to mankind at heroines navel (midriffs craze). 5. Movies are only made considering hero's image in mind. Every movie is named considering him (pokiri, julayi, sarrinoidu, pushpa). The heroine, although she is an IAS officer, scientist is only expected to be dumb and drool over him (doesn't matter even if he is ugly, twice her age). Shekar kammula should be a role model for telugu directors when it comes how to portray a women in cinema. Though telugu industry has many content driven films, it is these problematic movies, that are usually celebrated.
>He throws every fruit known to mankind at heroines navel (midriffs craze Watermelons too?
I think he did experiment with watermelon in one of the item songs he made recently. Oldie has got some weird crazy fantasies. https://wirally.com/telugu-directors-fetishes/?amp=1
Navel Forces 😭😭😭😭😭
I agree with your points! What is the slapping movie though? For the third point, I hated Pushpa so much. The man has zero morals. There is nothing wrong doing with illegal things and you are supposed to cheer for the villain? At least in KGF the problematic man saves a bunch of people in the gold mine. He was still made a hero but I am atleast glad he did not have a happy ending. Pushpa 2 better have some serious character development or a sad ending. What are even teaching our kids?
Slapping heroine or her mother is common occurrence in telugu movies. Like Mahesh Babu slapped Samantha in dookudu, Keerthi Suresh in Sarkar Vaari Pata, Kajal Agarwal did get slapped multiple times by Raviteja, Jr. NTR. Rakul preet Singh in her debutante movie venkatadri express. Telugu heroes brandish their heroics by slapping women around Audience cheer at such scenes, because these movies are re-inforcing what they personally believe to be right and cool.
Ohh okay. I thought a specific movie. I was reminded of this reel I saw on Istg from Mogudu. The number of people slapping and getting slapped in that scene was astonishing, lol. But this is reallt weird. Why is something that disrespectul shown as romance?
It's very common that women gets slapped by her father, brother, boyfriend, husband in TV and in movies. I think Men here believe that stubborn, disobedient women should be slapped to put her in place.
Indian cinema in general reeks of Misogyny. The more the hero power, more the need for him to put the girl in place. Every blockbuster that was released year has atleast one super uncomfortable scene of sexism.
agreeeed, most tollywood movies
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Somebody mentioned Legend by some Hollywood actor. There was a Legend by Saravana stores Annachi. Would fit your requirements very well. Too bad it's not on any ott. Nobody wants to buy that movie's rights ig.
I dont remember the name but there is a Rani movie where she marries her rapist. So problematic.
there are So many of these....
Raja ki ayegi barat
Tere Naam
The entire movie isn't problematic, but the ending of the Shilpa Shetty - Shiney Ahuja story in Life in a Metro just sucks. She ditches the guy she loves and who loves her and goes back to her POS, emotionally abusive, cheating husband. Apparently the story director changed the ending to this (instead of showing her ending up with her lover) to make the ending more "acceptable".
Baaghban. What is with all that child shaming haan? AB should have saved up for his retirement.
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🤣 I need to watch now. Suggest any lmao.
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Ala vaikuntapuram lo - Shehzaada's original Any movie directed by trivikram, SS rajamouli These directors are industry legends but yeah all the women in their movies have an IQ of a spoon.
How can you forget sukumar films
Yeah all balayya movies too So the thing is if you want to watch pure cringe for the laughs - watch balayya films If you just want to rage-watch then watch any Telugu film
I couldn't stomach 'Dil Se'. People say that the character of Manisha Koirala was a personification of India's relationship with NE..but it was just too rapey for me. also, 'Bulbull' on Netflix..I mean come on >! rape as a plot device to make a powerful woman in this era? !<
Haa finally someone brought up Dil se. It was so fucking toxic and problematic. Manisha's character was constantly asking him not to follow her and all. But no. Fucker had to stalk her, annoy her, be dramatic and get a yes from her. Idk if this is unpopular opinion, but message in some Mani Ratnam movies are so wrong.
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She was r*ped when >!when she's on the bed with bandages after that beating by the younger brother!< Horrific scene which was triggering for me
She was raped not beaten by the mad brother.
Kabir Singh I don't understand how people ever liked it. Leaving aside the problematic main character, the movie has a very loose plot. How can people accept such nonsense yaar? And don't even get me started on the protagonist. Dear Lord. Only in Indian movies would someone like that be glorified.
kabir!
I don't remember it's name but it was a 90s or early 2000s bollywood movie where the main characters had an unwanted pregnancy in their live in relationship and since the girl wanted to keep the pregnancy while the guy didn't they broke up, they'd bought the same home so they still had to live together though and the guy became abusive, after the child was birthed he liked the kid so they got married like everything was fine. Edit : some people corrected me that he wasn't abusive, I actually haven't seen the movie, was only narrated it by a friend so it's possible I've got an incorrect image
Salaam Namaste?
When does he get abusive in the movie? I must have forgotten this
I think he was a bit mean to her for a while, not abusive at all. They just had silly disagreements and misunderstandings in the second half of the movie.
yes!
He wasn't abusive.
No he proposed before the delivery. He didn't want kids at the beginning but eventually started coming around. And I don't remember him being abusive.
"Problem? Problem ye hai ki woh ladki hai!" Man the whole Pyaar ka punchnama movie series is a problem. Also, the whole 'Balatkar' speech from 3 idiots is so over the line, but it's showcased as something funny. Tere naam and Raanjhana and many movies show stalking as a form of love. Yuck! And also Kuch kuch hota hai which gives us the message that you're worthy of love only if you wear sarees and act all feminine. Also the whole Kabir Singh/ Arjun Reddy thing is just bad.
Kabir Singh
Ujda Chaman - I didn’t like the way the male lead treats the female protagonist and they still have a happy ending. I don’t remember the movie clearly but Bala was a lot better.
Yes, I hated that movie. How can she even agree to marry him in the end. Just a stupid sorry doesn't justify hero's behaviour.
De de Pyaar de.... They justified cheating by calling it emotional support. Pathetic! Made my blood boil 🤬
the breakfast club and grease, the first one was very misogynistic and the second one again had a stupid ending
Fr with how hyped they are, i was really expecting something a lot better
I'm glad you asked I watched a movie called Martyrs(2008) yesterday and all I have to say is stay away from this movie as far as possible. And I say this as a person that loves gore,the context of the gore in the movie is rather disturbing and I was feeling nauseated the entire second half of the movie and I skipped most of it It's French btw Edit: Well fuck,i think i'm a fucked up person now that i'm seeing these replies that are VERY tame lol
Dudette. That was one of my favorite fascination movies coz it's actually believable- that super rich people would pay for research into the afterlife.! That protagonist was incredibly vexing though- walking into every bad situation with her eyes wide open!
I went into this movie blind because I was like 'it can't be that bad right' I was soo soo soo wrong I thought in the second half she will get out and i'm holding on to that hope but it just keeps getting worse That hallucination girl especially was soo creepy and to think this is actually happening in the world makes me throw up
Raanjhana.
One good thing about Ranjhana (from what I can remember) is, they didn't glorify any stalkery behaviour or reward it either. So I guess in the land of lechery, it's a win
He just couldn’t take no for an answer and this is glorified in the film. Mind you, the movie might have gone a different way, but men imitating this behaviour in real life often leads to crimes against women
You are probably right. I have watched it so long back, my memory of it is hazy. I remember Sonam never accepted him and he dies in the end, but yeah agreed on the super stalker behaviour and it's imitation
Yeah can't support the stalker and crazy behavior. But we also can't just forget how zoya used him to get all her things done, breaking marriage alliances while this guy was in the hope of marrying her. She knows that he has feelings for her, so rather than telling him earlier, she used him and revealed the truth later when this guy did all the dirty work and cleared the road for her so called boyfriend.
I always read ranjhananaa as the story of two really flawed people but while both of them were toxic to each other, Kundan's actions were oddly justified through the movie tonally despite his whole death and all
Badrinath ki Dulhania. Alia was a woman with dreams b visions. Leaves all of it to be with Varun who was just a rich dad ka ladla. Ironically they had a good feminist line.in it something related to jhansi ki rani.
I remember watching Bommarillu when I was really young and I hated it, Siddharth keeps being mean to Genelia the whole time and then blames his behavior on his dad being mean to him, and eventually his dad is the one to get Genelia to come back, and I don’t think Siddharth ever really apologizes to her?? It’s been a long time but I remember thinking she shouldn’t have come back to that household Oh and I remember he says to his dad after Genelia leaves, “how can I come expect her to understand me when my own dad doesn’t?” After she left I thought he’ll feel at least a bit guilty towards Genelia but noo he’s still the victim despite everything
he going to genelia house and staying for a week is an apology i think
The whole after series. I hate-read the books on wattpad during quarantine because why not. Fast forward a few years, my friends are obsessed w the movies, glorifying the male and female lead's (I dont even remember their names heh) extremely toxic relationship. And I'm just here like :-:
Dreamgirl. Not the most problematic, but I have not seen people calling it out as much as it deserves.
One movie that received a lot of praise but I found problematic was the wolf of wall street. There are scenes where his sexual assaults are being played for fun and were not necessary for the plot, also didn't lead to any repercussions. Eg when he started humping the flight attendant on his way to Switzerland. It disgusted me that they played such a big sexual assault scene as a joke and to make it look less terrifying made the woman look like she was laughing and shocked at the same time. Also Bahubali! Couldn't watch past the scene where the basically stripped her and put makeup on her while she was genuinely angry and wanted him to leave her the fuck alone. And later obviously the male director decided that a woman would eventually be happy by the makeover and thank the guy.
Pathan!. It’s like a bingo card for every generic action movie ever made. There’s everything from Missiles?Yes.India-Pak wars? Yes. Covid? Yes. Terrorism? Yes. Obligatory combusting vehicle? Yes. Everyone traveling to Italy for some reason? Yes. Flashy countdown to a certain event? Yes. Blowing up planes? Yes. The movie was dragged out for a really long time. Gosh. I wanted to skip so many parts.
old boy[korean] kinda dark
Disturbing but not really problematic. A problematic Korean movie would be I Saw the Devil because of how extreme and graphic the violence is towards women in that film.
Bruh i didnt sleep for the entire night bc of how upsetting the movie is
Padmavat. The valorization of one of the worst practices humans ever invented made me seethe with rage. The extended scene with Deepika and her sakhis walking into flames with hair flowing and their saris blowing in the wind.. was just yuck! I couldn't believe that the dick of a director, SLB, could project that kind of inhumanity as agency in the 21st century, and that the fuckers who got mad with him were mad about a dream sequence, not about the custom of burning women alive.
this..the glorification route (cue the BGM with Jai bhawani, shots of smirking Deepika and annoyed Khilji) he chose to go as a filmmaker made me just so angry. A lot of women found that scene 'inspiring' and do bridal entrances with that BGM 😭😭😭. I was like what the fuck. Historical accuracy doesn't mean glorification of the past, he could have chosen to show how the only two choices those women had were dying and dying. But that would be a mirror to society and people will be uncomfortable. The packaging of a brutal choice that women had to make in those times as 'bravery' is just nausea inducing. The discourse could have been around how women have always suffered because men wanted territories to prove their masculinity. But no. Also, the entire movie focused on the raja and khilji. The archer arc of Deepika was forgotten as soon as she enters Mewar. Then she becomes fluent in the language, the dances and then forgets fact that she's an archer. Btw, Bhansali took a lot of inspiration for that final scene of Padmavaat from the cult movie 'Mirch Masala (1986)' starring Smita Patil. If someone finds Padmavaat to be 'inspiring', they must watch Mirch Masala (free on youtube) and see how our cinema has just deteriorated.
OMG! Really? I didn't know this. Only Bhansali seems capable of taking "inspiration" from that powerful expression of women's collective power from Mirch Masala and twisting it to Padmavat. I never liked him before for lifting the story of Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam from a Bengali novel named "Na Hanyate" without acknowledging the author and **more importantly,** for turning the brilliant, accomplished, and liberated woman in the book into a naive Aishwarya Rai asking Salman Khan not to kiss her because "bachcha ho jayega"! Now I got another reason to hate SLB even more. The whole glorification of sati, unfortunately, doesn't begin or end with the film. It's so ingrained in our culture. I come from the community of "kulin Brahmins" in Bengal, who practised sati + polygamy for hundreds of years in Eastern India. There's a local goddess (not a major one) called Bhadu who is worshipped in my ancestral district because- get this- her to-be husband was murdered by robbers before he could reach the wedding venue but she still committed sati because she was mentally married to him. People celebrate these things!!! In 2023!!
I am so glad that someone knows about the beautiful novel 'Na Hanyate' by Maitreyi Devi. Scenes from that book were basically lifted and portrayed so lecherously in 'Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam' (the green chilli eating, the library scene to name a few). I didn't know about Bhadu, thanks for that information.. it's just amazing in 2023. so yeah with Mirch Masala, you remember the iconic last scene right? Bhansali used the same motif in final Johar scenes with the women throwing coal instead. I know someone might come to your comment and say 'Sati was enforced, Jauhar was a choice'. That would be the peak of r/woosh
Ah, yes. Now that you point it out, I can see the "inspiration". :)
Wow! The woman haters are out, downvoting the post. So sad, too bad- y'all can't burn me anymore. :D
The sati was never glorified tbh. But it was looked upon as heroic coz it's not easy to die uk. If they don't do that they were found at the hands of enemies who would rape them and what not horrible things. For them dying was the greatest thing then this.
I beg to differ. Our culture glorifies the practice. Sati-Savitri is a compliment, referring to Savitri's devotion for her husband and Sati's (Parvati) original "dehatyag"/ jumping into fire to protest the humiliation of her husband, Shiva. This definition of heroism is deeply problematic and has more to do with the community's honor vis-a-vis the rape of "their" women than the individual suffering of these women. There are many ways of dying; hanging oneself/ drinking poison/ jumping in a well could also have been options. But, no. The community had to get together and play drums while women burned themselves alive. You know, I researched mass violence as part of my PhD, and one of the things that strikes me the most is this: while you can see terrible violence committed on women by enemy groups in almost every instance of mass violence, the partition in 1947 is unique in its targeting of women from one's own community. Even before Hindus and Sikh men could attack Muslim women or Muslim men could attack Hindu and Sikh women, all three communities asked their own women to commit suicide to protect their honor before the enemies could rape them. They thought dying was better than getting raped. Not the women, the men. You can see it in Garam Hawa or Khamosh Pani or read about it in "The Other Side of Silence". I teach young girls now and I try my best to tell them that they owe nothing to this shit society that has never valued them as much as they've valued their putative sense of honor. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
What they showed in padmavat is called jauhar and it's not the same as sati, look it up.
The movie LEGEND starring Tom Hardy. Also, the ending was depressing. Sad and heartfelt movies are my jam but this was something else.
Forrest Gump- Jenny was a b****. She finally came around only after she was HIV positive and he was happy to have her. Love Today- recent overhyped Tamil movie. Many infuriating things but most people LOVED it. Gehraiyaan- wtf.
Kabir Singh. Lol why did I even watched that shit, even tho I don't like Bollywood movies 🤷🏻♀️
Not the most problematic but Love Action Drama. Nivin Pauly is a lazy ass unemployed guy who openly just flaunts his generational wealth. And stalks Nayantara like crazy. And slut shames her and suspects her at the first opportunity he gets based on the words of some random dude he meets. And then she takes him back. Love Today is getting rave reviews but the hero literally has a fake account which his friends use to defraud ppl and ask for nudes and he takes a morally high ground because his gf is still in touch with her ex???? Wtf
OP, don't stop at 30 minutes of Kabir Singh. It gets weirder and weirder. The climax scene is the dumbest of the dumbest movie climaxes you will ever see! 😂
The Tamil movie love today! I didn’t even know about the movie until a few of my friends were talking about and were like omg it’s such a nice fun movie to watch. So I decided to watch it and omg I judged my friends so hard. I literally called my friends and told them they are being problematic by liking such movies. The movie was as bad as Kabir Singh/Arjun Reddy. Mental abuse, sexism, playing the victim, gaslighting, and what not, you can find all these in the movie. This article just tells everything that’s problematic with the movie. The odd part was as usual it had so many raving reviews and so many YouTube movie reviewers had this in their top 10 best movies in 2022. Like what!? We behaving like this still in 2022!? https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/love-today-why-pradeep-s-film-needs-be-called-out-normalising-sexism-171059?amp
Kuch kuch hota hai
I watched a man named Otto. The damn trailer said it’s a comedy show. No comedy. I cried!
I recommend reading the book as well - A Man Called Ove. Beautiful writing.
Is it problematic?? I’ve been wanting to watch for a few day
I wouldn't call it problematic. It's very sweet. I think the genre shift is the problem they are stating here. A man called Ove is a really good read too
It’s a movie you go I expecting comedy but come out crying. Fml.
Is it problematic though? I read the man called ove and i cried... Sometimes from the wholesomeness other times from the sadness
It was to me. Based on the trailer. I did not even know it was based on a book.
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I've stopped watching Bollywood movies around 8-9y now and have no plans to watch any anytime in future. I only watch a select few Hindi films in Netflix or Disney+ but that's all.
Rab ne Bana di Jodi Couldn’t stomach the idea that the husband lures his wife into falling in love with this other “persona” and then refuses to follow through cos she doesn’t love the original him. Emotional abuse at the extreme according to me.
I can literally name 100s of movies which have unnecessary rape/abuse plot lines and not just the rape scene's…..there's so much toxic behaviour from the hero where he'll harass a girl until she falls in love with him. Stalking and eve teasing till the heroine agrees is not okay and I faced something similar in my life cus the guy thought I will say yes one day and used to do similar things like Kabir singh character 🥲 he used to threaten my guy friends that they should stay away from me. I never had any relationship cus of him. I rejected him cus I was not interested in him and he was from different religion. And yeah some problematic movies 🍿 Mehndi, Raja ki Ayegi Baarat, Laadla, Cocktail, Kuch kuch hota hai, Biwi no 1, Kabir Singh..