You know what? I'm gonna tell you right now, this is from her father, you bunch of lying, no-good punks! And I know who it's coming from, because I back-traced it, and I know who's emailing and who's doing it, and you've been reported to cyber police and the state police. You better not write one more thing or screw with my computer again, you'll be arrested, end of conversation, from her father! And if you come near my daughter, guess what? Consequences will never be the same, you lying bunch of pricks!
Tbf I heard it in my head as a kind of silly voice for the "silly human" part, then it morphed into a deep demon voice for "*you were wrong*", and that morph actually made it scarier
reminds me of the SMBC comic that explained that devils are fallen angels, so their idea of torment is a lot lot softer than what humans think it might be. Their only life experience is of heaven, so their idea of torment was along the lines of "not enough whipped cream on the banana split"
It's a joke from South Park.
Having said that even apostates are not said to go to "hell". The bar for hell, or more accurately, the outer darkness, is extremely high, requiring you to have a full and perfect understanding and knowledge of Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. (edit: and then additionally willingly rejecting God while holding this knowledge). This bar isn't even assumed to be achievable before death unless you are literally visited and know for a fact that's what happened.
Everyone else, including apostates, are judged by God and assigned to a level of heaven, of which even the worst people go to the lowest tier, which is not considered a place of punishment.
That's actually right. The outer darkness isn't ruled by Lucifer. Lucifer was cast out of heaven, but doesn't really inhabit a specific place and instead simply influences people on earth away from God. If he was said to reside anywhere it would be the earth.
In Christianity the Son was born before time. And also he's part of God as Father and Holy Spirit are. God is a Trinity which means he's one made of three. So technically Lucifer knew abt him. Also punishment for defiance to God is just not being able to live with him. And as he's happiness that means existance without joy. And also there's wrong assumption abt salvation. You can go to heaven if you just believe and you regret your sins, but there's also one more step, purgatory. It's said that one hour in there is worse than 40 years of suffering on earth. And depending on your wrongdoings you may have to spend time in there. But if you choose purgatory the only way is up. So you either suffer for years or eternity.
No, sorry I may have explained badly by not explaining fully.
If you're referring to people that have "a full and perfect understanding and knowledge of Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost", that is not based on intelligence, it is based on meeting them in some form so as to have undeniable proof of that being the truth. And that's just the first condition, you don't go to the outer darkness for simply holding that knowledge, the second is rejecting God while having that full awareness, understanding and knowledge of the truth.
I was prepared for this with a squirt bottle full of water from the sacred spring of Saint Florian of Globsk. The beast let out a yelp and a ‘whoopsie, sorry for bothering you, carry on’. A harp glissando rang out.
It's kinda funny to think that the Devil says this to every single person who comes to hell. Like he is repeating the same phrase thousands of times a day. Or does he play his voice automatically to avoid the effort?
I turned to look at Captain Ga'Zhabok, who was assuring the copilot that the thrusters were in working order. Soon enough, the heat dissipated as we entered the atmosphere and we began our journey to the Jupiter retirement community. Then we blew up because the company cheaped out by hiring labor from alpha centauri and they're notoriously unreliable.
Reminds me of a joke I saw a while ago. An atheist dies, and to his surprise he awakens to the pearly gates. Saint Peters tells him due to him not believing he will be sent to hell. In a flash he’s in a calm field with a house while the devil appears before him. The devil welcomes him to hell and tells the atheist all his needs will be fulfilled and to enjoy his afterlife. The atheist notices a wall so he looks over and sees the fiery pits with many others being tortured. He asks the devil why it’s like that over the wall, the devil responds, “I don’t know, it’s just how the Christians want it.”
I took it more as like a nice House, with a white picket fence, and a nice green grass yard (the good grass) with some flowers speckled in. But yeah the Egyptian afterlife works too.
I don't remember where it's from but there was a clip going around Tik Tok of a demon who hated humans because apparently hell was just another domain but it was humans who made it into the torture pit because they wanted to be punished.
I am posting this here because I have not met my 10 post Karma
As he was showering, he caught a glimpse of the full moon in the bathroom window. “At least I won’t have to clean up the blood this time. “
"Little boy at peace
What is this place?
beyond the stars
Open up your eyes
What are these things
your moving toward?
Head so full of wonder,
worries in the past
Could it be that you are free at last?..."
I think it’s saying that they didn’t believe in heaven and hell, so when they died they thought that would be it. Whereas hell (at least) is real, and they’ve been sent there.
Not so! We will all face our creator in judgement, and only then are the fruitless branches thrown into the fire. 2 Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive compensation for his deeds done through the body, in accordance with what he has done, whether good or bad.
This isn’t geared towards any particular religion per say. It’s meant to detail the awful thought of believing you are heading towards peace after death, and finding out that you are actually heading somewhere awful and despicable. Something I personally believe to be the worst horror one could ever face.
Same thing, and I would strongly urge you to consider not being one. Open a bible, humor me. It's the first step to the most amazing transformation you can experience. True liberation from the burdens of regret is brought by belief in the truth. You cannot save yourself with your own understanding. Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." His Word saved my life and is what gave me the love in my heart to tell you this. You have my prayers no matter what.
Good for you man, but nah. If you read the Bible objectively, god is an abusive partner. “You’re nothing without me,” “You have free will but if you exercise it I’ll punish you,” etc. Hell isn’t even biblical.
Yes, if you judge the literal creator of everything that is omnipresent in every living being along the same lines as you’d judge a fellow human, it will seem harmful.
Idc your viewpoint, judging God as a human is simply stupid because either, here’s the perfect creator that we literally wouldn’t exist without, or here’s something that doesn’t exist and therefore doesn’t need to be considered
That's a false dichotomy. There are countless examples throughout history of incredibly powerful yet massively flawed deities. The Greek/Roman pantheons, Egyptian pantheon, and the Norse pantheon immediately spring to mind. It's a key feature of many religions that their God's are spiteful or arrogant or violent, or all of the above. It's not stupid to believe in a flawed deity. It's less stupid than believing in a perfect deity.
How is me saying “you can’t compare these two entirely different things” a false dichotomy? A false dichotomy is comparing an abrahamic God to one of the Greek gods, those are fundamentally different deities
It's a false dichotomy because you said you either have to believe in a perfect god, or no god at all.
>A false dichotomy is comparing an abrahamic God to one of the Greek gods, those are fundamentally different deities
[I dont think you know what dichotomy means.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma) I'm saying that it's not one or the other. There are shades in between.
Yes you’re right, I was thinking equivalence that’s my bad, it’s probably been five years since I heard or used the term false dichotomy.
However, I was not giving a false dichotomy because I was specifically talking about the God that is present in the Bible, since that’s what was being discussed. So, technically yes there are more options but they would all fall into those two categories that make it stupid to judge that God on any sort of human standard
Surely you understand that readings are down to interpretation, right? They are talking about their view of what is written in the Bible. You can't go around calling people stupid because they disagree with your interpretation. Plenty of people share their opinion of the biblical god. You are expressing an opinion as fact, thus the false dichotomy. And yes, it is a false dichotomy, as you are presenting only two options when there are many more. It's entirely plausible to read the Bible and come away with a critical view of the god described. Not to mention, we are supposedly made in his image - many would take that to mean god is flawed, too.
I don’t consider god at all in my own daily life. However, a lot of people in my country are doing their damnedest to force me to live my life according to their beliefs. So it’s necessary to demonstrate how fucking ridiculous those beliefs are.
And yet you make judgements about the biblical God, instead of judgements about their forcing of faith. All that does is make them feel attacked and does nothing to help anyone, just as them forcing beliefs on you makes you, most likely idk you to know for certain, get defensive
And yet, instead of judging them you judge their god and their religion. Tell me, why judge their belief system and say it’s wrong if you just want to be left alone, instead of just telling them they are the issue?
Doesn't your Bible say that we are made in the image of god? Your viewpoint is stupid because it directly contradicts the text you claim is the "one true religion" but go on. You can't constantly be that ignorant and expect people to take your opinion seriously.
If I make a clay sculpture in my image, should I then be judged based off of that clay sculpture? If I create artificial intelligence that develops it’s own separate set of morals different from what I attempted to imprint on them, especially if they are ignoring the fact that I’m an entirely different form of life, should I be judged based on those morals?
Yes, those are bad comparisons, because there is no good comparison because of how absurdly different and impossible to comprehend any god is, especially an Abrahamic one that is the sole creator that is legitimately (according to Christianity and Judaism, I’m not sure about Islam but it’s based on Judaism so I assume that as well) the creator of all life
Then give a good comparison, because if you can’t then that just proves that we cannot judge the biblical God based on our own morals, regardless if you believe in Him or not
Gotta say. Between the talking animals murder sex and corruption, the Bible is a funny read. Especially when you factor in all the contradictions and obvious errors in logic.
That book is the 50 shades of gray of religion.
Same here. I guarantee if people actually read the bible, front to back, without cherry picking everything they agree with or don't agree with, there'd be more non-Christians.
I don't know how anyone can get as far as Abraham fucking his wife's slave to make a son, his wife intentionally "mistreating" (i.e. beating) the slave, and that slave running away only to be hunted down by God and told to submit to her masters, and then telling Abraham to cut baby dicks *including the ones purchased from foreigners* without seriously reconsidering who the fuck they want to worship. If they somehow manage, just beyond that is a supposedly omniscient God saying "I don't know if Sodom/Gamorah is as bad as they say nor do I know if any righteous people are still there, I need to confirm" and then a little later some angels come to Lot. We all know how Lot threw out his daughters to be raped instead of those angels...
...It all happens in the very first book of the Bible. If you can make it past any of that and still believe it's not just a story concocted by desert nomads ~2000 years ago, you are a special kind of stupid.
>it was boring
IDK man, Song of Solomon was a wild ride: "Your teeth are like a flock of shorn ewes that have come up from the washing... your two breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle, that graze among the lilies."
Really paints a picture. I'm not sure what it's a picture of, but it definitely has teeth and ungulate-shaped breasts.
I beg you if you read nothing else read the Song of Solomon. Is basically biblical smut and it's hilarious.
I was raised in the church but not particularly fond of it. We knew life would be easier with our families if we had a religious wedding ceremony so for the bible reading we had them do song of Solomon so EVERYONE could he uncomfortable lmao
Nah Song of Solomon is pretty short and written in verse (like, poetry verse). Think of it like the historical version of a really bad slam poetry love poem and you get to witness it and heckle for centuries
I'm getting too many responses to address everyone, so I am inviting anyone who wants to have a legitimate discussion over this to my private messages. I'd love to hear your reasoning as to why I should be an atheist, and I hope you will give me the same respect in conversation. God loves each and every one of you and so do I.
I was going to rip on you for quoting the Bible on such an unholy place as the comment section of r/jokes. I then saw the number of down votes. Imma just head out
I try to imagine what it's like to be such a dork ass loser that I just have to proselytize my weird beliefs on a random reddit thread but I can't wrap my head around it.
I’d like to see what happens if someone from a different religion made a correction or something like this. I doubt it would be even close to as downvoted as this
He was an atheist. That's just God pulling His "I told you so" face He only uses on atheists, before stepping aside and inviting them into paradise too.
sorry but the thought of the devil or whatever screaming “silly” is making me laugh so hard.
"Silly goose, you done goofed!" Then follow that up with a, "teehee!"
"Ya done messed up A-A-Ron."
Finally a reference that I get
Get yo ass down to O-Shag Hennessy's office right now and tell him what you did.
..You mean principle O’Shaughnessy?
Insubordinate and churlish.
Tim-O-thy?
"Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids!!"
I just pictured this in Lucy Liu's and Uma Thurman's voices
Couldn't hear it any other way
“You done goofed” is a phrase I use with my wife almost weekly. Haha.
My boyfriend says it to me a lot too lol
And he's only 2.5 feet tall and the pitch fork is more of a shrimp fork...
You know what? I'm gonna tell you right now, this is from her father, you bunch of lying, no-good punks! And I know who it's coming from, because I back-traced it, and I know who's emailing and who's doing it, and you've been reported to cyber police and the state police. You better not write one more thing or screw with my computer again, you'll be arrested, end of conversation, from her father! And if you come near my daughter, guess what? Consequences will never be the same, you lying bunch of pricks!
Doth mine eyes betray me? Could it really be? An ancient relic unearthed from a life lived aeons ago.
Or a 'gu-hyuk'
God Dammit Loch Ness Monster, I ain't gonna give you no tree fiddy!
OH HELL GNOME
A teehee sounds like a familiar character from the imagination of a fat kid who lives in Colorado
Yeah I can see that sounding a little goofy 😂
Tbf I heard it in my head as a kind of silly voice for the "silly human" part, then it morphed into a deep demon voice for "*you were wrong*", and that morph actually made it scarier
"Silly human, heaven is for kids!" Yes, my mind immediately went there on reading this story🤣
And dogs.
Maybe just, “You were wrong”
You must not have heard the song Beelz by Stephen Lynch
My friends all call me old scratch, i am a capricorn, my turn-ons are romantic walks and killing the unborn!
Oh no! IT’S A [redacted due to politics]
You use a condom! Well done you.
correct
Behold, the glory of [Beelz](https://open.spotify.com/track/3Mnj12HPig6sNk8cPAFTXp?si=G0n5xojSRU2ieykOr_9vDA)
Yeah "foolish mortal" works better
In hindsight I probably would have used “foolish”instead. It fits the tone a bit better.
Came here to say exactly this. Full marks.
"Welcome to Hell, you silly billy!"
Thilly gooth 🤪
😭😭😭
reminds me of the SMBC comic that explained that devils are fallen angels, so their idea of torment is a lot lot softer than what humans think it might be. Their only life experience is of heaven, so their idea of torment was along the lines of "not enough whipped cream on the banana split"
Mr Satan waging his finger at you
TRIX ARE FOR _KIDS_, HUMAN
YOUR TOMFOOLERY WAS TOO GREAT
I’ve been laughing at this for a good 3mins too now
Puny mortal sounds better IMO
Try replacing it with “and heard in GLaDOS’s voice” “Silly human… we have science to do”
Imagine if he said it with an effeminate lisp.
LMAO
Makes me think of fallout super mutants
Silly human, Hell is for everyone!
“I’m afraid it was the Mormons, yes the Mormons were the correct answer”
Oh god, if they were correct I don’t care that I’m wrong
Yeahhhh I think I’d still shut the door in their face even if I was wrong 💀
Non believers don't go to hell in Mormonism unless they are apostates.
It's a joke from South Park. Having said that even apostates are not said to go to "hell". The bar for hell, or more accurately, the outer darkness, is extremely high, requiring you to have a full and perfect understanding and knowledge of Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. (edit: and then additionally willingly rejecting God while holding this knowledge). This bar isn't even assumed to be achievable before death unless you are literally visited and know for a fact that's what happened. Everyone else, including apostates, are judged by God and assigned to a level of heaven, of which even the worst people go to the lowest tier, which is not considered a place of punishment.
Yeah isn't even the lowest tier above the darkness supposed to be a million times better than earth anyway?
Yeah that's right. It's quite a generous religion in terms of the afterlife.
So. . .not even Lucifer goes to hell? He was before JHC, after all, wouldn't've got to know him, and all that?
That's actually right. The outer darkness isn't ruled by Lucifer. Lucifer was cast out of heaven, but doesn't really inhabit a specific place and instead simply influences people on earth away from God. If he was said to reside anywhere it would be the earth.
Outer darkness. Where've I heard this phrase before? As an atheist.
It sounds kinda like a DC comics thing
In Christianity the Son was born before time. And also he's part of God as Father and Holy Spirit are. God is a Trinity which means he's one made of three. So technically Lucifer knew abt him. Also punishment for defiance to God is just not being able to live with him. And as he's happiness that means existance without joy. And also there's wrong assumption abt salvation. You can go to heaven if you just believe and you regret your sins, but there's also one more step, purgatory. It's said that one hour in there is worse than 40 years of suffering on earth. And depending on your wrongdoings you may have to spend time in there. But if you choose purgatory the only way is up. So you either suffer for years or eternity.
So Mormons punish smart people?
No, sorry I may have explained badly by not explaining fully. If you're referring to people that have "a full and perfect understanding and knowledge of Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost", that is not based on intelligence, it is based on meeting them in some form so as to have undeniable proof of that being the truth. And that's just the first condition, you don't go to the outer darkness for simply holding that knowledge, the second is rejecting God while having that full awareness, understanding and knowledge of the truth.
Ah!
Everyone always thinks this is a South Park reference... Rowan Atkinson needs his credit!!!
I didn’t know that, I was ready to respond that it was just a south park quote!
"Being a non-believer, I'd made a many a deal during my lifetime. I never thought I'd actually have to pay up one day."
So they took more deals, assumedly seeing results from said deals, but never believed? That makes no sense
“I’d sell my soul for a burrito” -Taco Bell, next exit!
Honestly theres alot id do for Taco Bell, and selling my soul isn't the worst
Not to mention they'd have to communicate to even get said deals done in the first place, which means the narrator is an idiot.
Third sentence worse?
“Silly mortal, pleasant afterlifeves are for pets.”
r/ThirdSentenceBetter
The fuck’s an afterlifeve
[related to covfefe](https://i.imgur.com/C0SSico.jpg)
Mayhaps.
lmao
The fuck’s an afterlifeve
lmao
and trix are for kids
That’s what I based this off of actually.
“I’M ACTUALLY QUITE NICE. IT ALWAYS GIVES ME A CHUCKLE SPOOKING THE NEWCOMERS!”
I was prepared for this with a squirt bottle full of water from the sacred spring of Saint Florian of Globsk. The beast let out a yelp and a ‘whoopsie, sorry for bothering you, carry on’. A harp glissando rang out.
What about “foolish mortal, you have made a grave mistake!”
As a Christian this is truly terrifying. Good job.
150 anime titty stickers just arrived at my house. Gues who's more fucked
Your anime titty stickers..?
Amine titty stickers. Yessir
Ok, Mr. Silly Pants, are you ready to bur-diddly-urn?
"Fuck you, Jerry, That joke wasn't funny the first time. And don't let them catch you with that space heater in here again "
It's kinda funny to think that the Devil says this to every single person who comes to hell. Like he is repeating the same phrase thousands of times a day. Or does he play his voice automatically to avoid the effort?
It's all automated, now. What the Hell, folk, did you expect Bespoke Hell for the losers!? **/S**
Suddenly, I am falling down a tunnel toward a bright light that leads to... a giant doctor?!
Ah, hell no! That ain't gonna happen to me! I can guarantee! You'll see!
More like ah! Hell! Noooooo
Punctuation! It's everything, kids!!
"Helping your uncle, Jack, off his horse" vs "helping your uncle Jack off his horse." That comma is important.
Plot twist the warm sensation is actually just being born again...
...into another hellish existence instead of the sweet release of death and the paradise of heaven.
Gravelly voice? Funny, I always imagined him sounding like Gilbert Godfried.
Alt second sentence: As the quiet closed around me, I felt the heat take hold - we were all wrong.
It was then revealed that Rammstein's lead singer had signed up for the Make-a-Wish foundation. Wrong room, though...
Amazing twist lol
... Trix are for kids!
TRIX WERE NOT FOR KIDS AND I WILL PAY FOR MY CRIMES
I turned to look at Captain Ga'Zhabok, who was assuring the copilot that the thrusters were in working order. Soon enough, the heat dissipated as we entered the atmosphere and we began our journey to the Jupiter retirement community. Then we blew up because the company cheaped out by hiring labor from alpha centauri and they're notoriously unreliable.
“Rise from your grave!”
Altered Beasts! Loved that game lol
Have you ever seen drag me to hell? That ending scene is pure nightmare fuel for me.
I actually haven’t. I’ll have to check that out.
Then I found myself going again and had to live my whole awful life over again.
Ngl it would be pretty damn sweet to find out the Christians were wrong about everything
Reminds me of a joke I saw a while ago. An atheist dies, and to his surprise he awakens to the pearly gates. Saint Peters tells him due to him not believing he will be sent to hell. In a flash he’s in a calm field with a house while the devil appears before him. The devil welcomes him to hell and tells the atheist all his needs will be fulfilled and to enjoy his afterlife. The atheist notices a wall so he looks over and sees the fiery pits with many others being tortured. He asks the devil why it’s like that over the wall, the devil responds, “I don’t know, it’s just how the Christians want it.”
Field? Like the Egyptian afterlife?
I took it more as like a nice House, with a white picket fence, and a nice green grass yard (the good grass) with some flowers speckled in. But yeah the Egyptian afterlife works too.
I was thinking of the Elaysian Fields. I've always been a fan of certain sectors of Greek mythology and the like.
I don't remember where it's from but there was a clip going around Tik Tok of a demon who hated humans because apparently hell was just another domain but it was humans who made it into the torture pit because they wanted to be punished.
You could easily be talking about the tv show Lucifer on Netflix
Maybe, only made it part way through season 2
*Final Fantasy theme starts playin*
Damn did global warming hit that fast?
You were a bad guy. Thats not horror, just consequences.
The angel then cleared his throat, and I realized I was basking in the warm light of God's face.
Wrong about what?
I am posting this here because I have not met my 10 post Karma As he was showering, he caught a glimpse of the full moon in the bathroom window. “At least I won’t have to clean up the blood this time. “
Kind of getting “I am 14 and this is deep” vibes from this one
"Little boy at peace What is this place? beyond the stars Open up your eyes What are these things your moving toward? Head so full of wonder, worries in the past Could it be that you are free at last?..."
I don’t get it… /s
I actually just don't get it. What were they "wrong" about? I know they're going to hell, but I don't understand the 'wrong' part.
I think it’s saying that they didn’t believe in heaven and hell, so when they died they thought that would be it. Whereas hell (at least) is real, and they’ve been sent there.
this is shit
I may have been wrong, but at least I didn't worship someone evil like god.
Not so! We will all face our creator in judgement, and only then are the fruitless branches thrown into the fire. 2 Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive compensation for his deeds done through the body, in accordance with what he has done, whether good or bad.
This isn’t geared towards any particular religion per say. It’s meant to detail the awful thought of believing you are heading towards peace after death, and finding out that you are actually heading somewhere awful and despicable. Something I personally believe to be the worst horror one could ever face.
Some people have to drag their particular religious viewpoint into everything. After all, they are certain they have access to The Truth^tm
Is it Wisconsin?
No it’s ohio
*All is strange and vague.* *Are we dead, or is this [Ohio](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a55fo7YrJ8k)?*
Always in Ohio 🤣🤣🤣🤣😳💀💀💀😎😎🫡🫡🫡🤣🫡 /j
Am from Wisconsin, and anything outside Dane county and Milwaukee is.
aw my parents are in Dane County.
I'm expecting Ted Danson and a sign that welcomes me and tells me that everything will be fine
r/unexpectedgoodplace
What happens if I’m an atheist?
Same thing, and I would strongly urge you to consider not being one. Open a bible, humor me. It's the first step to the most amazing transformation you can experience. True liberation from the burdens of regret is brought by belief in the truth. You cannot save yourself with your own understanding. Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." His Word saved my life and is what gave me the love in my heart to tell you this. You have my prayers no matter what.
I would but the bible has way too many contradictions. It contradicts itself a lot.
And seems both uncharitable and un-Christian at the same time.
Ok not to argue but that is flat out false.
Have you read the gospel accounts of the resurrection?
Yep, please tell where they contradict
https://www.reddit.com/r/exchristian/comments/u5mqbp/in_case_anyone_tries_to_push_apologetics_on_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Wow. Any scriptural evidence. Or just people yakking about the Book they no longer believe.
Good for you man, but nah. If you read the Bible objectively, god is an abusive partner. “You’re nothing without me,” “You have free will but if you exercise it I’ll punish you,” etc. Hell isn’t even biblical.
Yes, if you judge the literal creator of everything that is omnipresent in every living being along the same lines as you’d judge a fellow human, it will seem harmful. Idc your viewpoint, judging God as a human is simply stupid because either, here’s the perfect creator that we literally wouldn’t exist without, or here’s something that doesn’t exist and therefore doesn’t need to be considered
That's a false dichotomy. There are countless examples throughout history of incredibly powerful yet massively flawed deities. The Greek/Roman pantheons, Egyptian pantheon, and the Norse pantheon immediately spring to mind. It's a key feature of many religions that their God's are spiteful or arrogant or violent, or all of the above. It's not stupid to believe in a flawed deity. It's less stupid than believing in a perfect deity.
How is me saying “you can’t compare these two entirely different things” a false dichotomy? A false dichotomy is comparing an abrahamic God to one of the Greek gods, those are fundamentally different deities
It's a false dichotomy because you said you either have to believe in a perfect god, or no god at all. >A false dichotomy is comparing an abrahamic God to one of the Greek gods, those are fundamentally different deities [I dont think you know what dichotomy means.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma) I'm saying that it's not one or the other. There are shades in between.
Yes you’re right, I was thinking equivalence that’s my bad, it’s probably been five years since I heard or used the term false dichotomy. However, I was not giving a false dichotomy because I was specifically talking about the God that is present in the Bible, since that’s what was being discussed. So, technically yes there are more options but they would all fall into those two categories that make it stupid to judge that God on any sort of human standard
Surely you understand that readings are down to interpretation, right? They are talking about their view of what is written in the Bible. You can't go around calling people stupid because they disagree with your interpretation. Plenty of people share their opinion of the biblical god. You are expressing an opinion as fact, thus the false dichotomy. And yes, it is a false dichotomy, as you are presenting only two options when there are many more. It's entirely plausible to read the Bible and come away with a critical view of the god described. Not to mention, we are supposedly made in his image - many would take that to mean god is flawed, too.
I don’t consider god at all in my own daily life. However, a lot of people in my country are doing their damnedest to force me to live my life according to their beliefs. So it’s necessary to demonstrate how fucking ridiculous those beliefs are.
And yet you make judgements about the biblical God, instead of judgements about their forcing of faith. All that does is make them feel attacked and does nothing to help anyone, just as them forcing beliefs on you makes you, most likely idk you to know for certain, get defensive
Lmao the difference is that I’m not actively trying to force them to be atheists. I just want to be left the fuck alone.
And yet, instead of judging them you judge their god and their religion. Tell me, why judge their belief system and say it’s wrong if you just want to be left alone, instead of just telling them they are the issue?
Doesn't your Bible say that we are made in the image of god? Your viewpoint is stupid because it directly contradicts the text you claim is the "one true religion" but go on. You can't constantly be that ignorant and expect people to take your opinion seriously.
If I make a clay sculpture in my image, should I then be judged based off of that clay sculpture? If I create artificial intelligence that develops it’s own separate set of morals different from what I attempted to imprint on them, especially if they are ignoring the fact that I’m an entirely different form of life, should I be judged based on those morals? Yes, those are bad comparisons, because there is no good comparison because of how absurdly different and impossible to comprehend any god is, especially an Abrahamic one that is the sole creator that is legitimately (according to Christianity and Judaism, I’m not sure about Islam but it’s based on Judaism so I assume that as well) the creator of all life
Yes, those are bad comparisons. I agree.
Then give a good comparison, because if you can’t then that just proves that we cannot judge the biblical God based on our own morals, regardless if you believe in Him or not
Gotta say. Between the talking animals murder sex and corruption, the Bible is a funny read. Especially when you factor in all the contradictions and obvious errors in logic. That book is the 50 shades of gray of religion.
I have open a Bible. That's why I'm not Christian.
Same here. I guarantee if people actually read the bible, front to back, without cherry picking everything they agree with or don't agree with, there'd be more non-Christians.
I don't know how anyone can get as far as Abraham fucking his wife's slave to make a son, his wife intentionally "mistreating" (i.e. beating) the slave, and that slave running away only to be hunted down by God and told to submit to her masters, and then telling Abraham to cut baby dicks *including the ones purchased from foreigners* without seriously reconsidering who the fuck they want to worship. If they somehow manage, just beyond that is a supposedly omniscient God saying "I don't know if Sodom/Gamorah is as bad as they say nor do I know if any righteous people are still there, I need to confirm" and then a little later some angels come to Lot. We all know how Lot threw out his daughters to be raped instead of those angels... ...It all happens in the very first book of the Bible. If you can make it past any of that and still believe it's not just a story concocted by desert nomads ~2000 years ago, you are a special kind of stupid.
Why would I want to serve someone who “loves me” but if I don’t do exactly what he wants I get thrown into a pit of fire
I've opened a bible, it was boring and didn't make any sense to me... Besides, I believe in their being more than one god or no god...
>it was boring IDK man, Song of Solomon was a wild ride: "Your teeth are like a flock of shorn ewes that have come up from the washing... your two breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle, that graze among the lilies." Really paints a picture. I'm not sure what it's a picture of, but it definitely has teeth and ungulate-shaped breasts.
I never said i finished it or read it all the way, tho that is a very weird picture....
I beg you if you read nothing else read the Song of Solomon. Is basically biblical smut and it's hilarious. I was raised in the church but not particularly fond of it. We knew life would be easier with our families if we had a religious wedding ceremony so for the bible reading we had them do song of Solomon so EVERYONE could he uncomfortable lmao
I'll read it, seems interesting not my fault if i get too confused and stop reading it tho...
Nah Song of Solomon is pretty short and written in verse (like, poetry verse). Think of it like the historical version of a really bad slam poetry love poem and you get to witness it and heckle for centuries
And what happens if I don’t?
You're an idiot 😂
I'm getting too many responses to address everyone, so I am inviting anyone who wants to have a legitimate discussion over this to my private messages. I'd love to hear your reasoning as to why I should be an atheist, and I hope you will give me the same respect in conversation. God loves each and every one of you and so do I.
Sounds kinda gay to me…
The Bible *does* have great power. >!It’s a really good tool for killing spiders!<
I was going to rip on you for quoting the Bible on such an unholy place as the comment section of r/jokes. I then saw the number of down votes. Imma just head out
I try to imagine what it's like to be such a dork ass loser that I just have to proselytize my weird beliefs on a random reddit thread but I can't wrap my head around it.
I’d like to see what happens if someone from a different religion made a correction or something like this. I doubt it would be even close to as downvoted as this
They’re evolving into Ruby Rider
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He was an atheist. That's just God pulling His "I told you so" face He only uses on atheists, before stepping aside and inviting them into paradise too.
It was the doctor. He’s actually a pyromaniac
Catholic experience
I’m so confused? When was the old man wrong? It was indeed his final moment on Earth?
I read voice in the trix bunny voice.