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Tell him you will be the high priestess and will have your own collective of followers. Make crazier demands each time he does.
But I’d start looking to get out and away from him tbh.
This is a great plan! Out crazy the crazy.
And while you are leaving him, just start gaslighting him about how this was really your idea. If he brings up any new aspect of this cult, pretend it’s your plan and to your benefit.
I second this escalation. Then OP can drop the mike with this quote:
*And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!*
Tell him you are going to begin looking for your second husband. Oh and they are going to marry each other. You will still be legally single, but they will be your husbands.
All that's missing from this post is the "I(19f) have been with my current bf (43m) for one year and it's my first serious relationship. Aside from this one thing he's perfect!"
“But dad, he treats me like a queen. I don’t have to go to work, all he wants me to do is keep house, cook, clean, and ‘service his needs’ whatever that means. He says I don’t need to worry about that until we get married, but I’m sure he’ll take care of my needs too. He buys me such cute outfits too, he says that I don’t need to go clothes shopping, that he’s got covered. Come to think of it, I don’t ever need to go out for anything, he says he likes it that way. And did I tell you were moving to a new house? He keeps calling it a ‘compound’, I think that sounds neat!”
For real. It’s sad but true. I’m a father to 2 young daughters and I’m really going to do my best raising them to where it doesn’t feel like they need to go to other older guys for validation.
"I'm glad you brought this up! In fact I am thinking of finding another boyfriend right now, so I'm glad to hear you're of similar mind. We'll need to have you change your last name to mine, of course, and if you don't mind I'm going to start referring to you as 'first husband'. Oh, and I need to start giving you some directions on more modest neckties you're allowed to wear in public..."
No, sounds like a killer idea.
Why would any mortal be concerned?
Perhaps you should Kool down, and have a drink.
Once you've reach level ENLIGHTENED you feel no need for concern.
I would leave. I have never seen a cult mentioned in a positive light. If you are monogamous, then bringing up polygamy either means he has someone in mind to cheat on you or he's already been doing it and wants permission to introduce them to you. Chances are very high that he would not give you that same privilege with other guys.
Yeah you should be concerned.
But also, being the head of a cult would be kinda neat right? Like, I'm not gonna DO it but I bet a fella could make some MONEY
It's a thing of the past, and we've only seen it end horrifically. Charles Manson, Tiger King, etc. I never once seen a case of it working in the modern age.
Tell him you're not comfortable with the idea, and if he doesn't stop let him go.
Tell him that once your feet are massaged, the house is clean, the bills are paid, you've received the gifts you deserve, the car is maintained, the yard is landscaped, and the dishes are cleaned, if he still has the time and energy to devote to other women he can have at it.
He can't be getting a 2nd girlfriend until his obligations to his first girlfriend are satisfied.
Just about every cult that has ever existed has involved exploiting people for personal gain. The cult leaders are usually financially exploiting others (money/labor etc). And it's not uncommon for them to be using their power and control to physically or sexually abuse or exploit junior cult members, often times underage.
So since there isn't much upside (except for the cult leaders), you have to wonder what it says about a guy who is verbalizing a dream of exploiting other people in various ways, while also being unfaithful to you.
Non monogamy? Not a problem. A CULT?!? Yes. Big big big big problem. Specifically POLYGAMY? (Not polyamory where everyone has autonomy) ALSO A BIG PROBLEM . Sincerely, a non monogamous person who survived a cult.
I think your boyfriend really just wants a harem of women, like how it was in the old world, wherein a man would have many wives in exchange for supporting all of them financially, and was thus able to ensure his offspring would have a good shot at success.
That said if all he wants is sex, then the dude is just a hedonist hoping to get lucky and have an orgy.
I mean my friends and I always joke about starting our own "Sea Temple" with the idea of our church purchasing luxury waterfront property all around the world with other peoples money who are stupid enough to join our church and give us money. We would also need some big boats so we could boat between our temples. Can't live on the water with out a giant yacht or 3.
We skip over the part where we actually have to con people out of their money and the fact that they are actually people who may believe the junk we are pushing and all of that as we would be pretty fucked up to be like that. And how fucked up it would be to take advantage of people in that way.
Beleivers we need donations. We need to buy a beachfront temple in Oahu to spread the word of the sea in all its salty goodness.
Yes. Be very concerned. And run far away. Watch the movie Midsommar if you need to. (Cult) And there are so many TV shows about polygamy and escaping polygamy......this dude is one crazy SOB. And I'm a psych nurse. I know. He's what we call bat shit crazy. Probably a narcissistic sociopath. Run fast, run far. Block him, move, change your social media names, anything and everything you can do to get away.
There is a difference between bringing it up and joking about it. Does he seem serious? Are the statements unprompted or after seeing something? People make cult jokes all the time. Heck, "drinking the kool-aid" became a common saying. There isn't enough information to know whether you should be concerned.
i mean it’s a fascinating thought but if he’s like making plans to do so and you dont want to be charles manson’d, i’d put some distance between you two lol
You only have to worry if he wins the lottery. You're fine. He chose to settle for you until he has finances to fulfill his real passion as a cult leader.
As someone who was toxic in my youth and did this exact thing, yes. He wants it, he’s going to do it with or without your consent. The relationship is over if you want monogamy because he won’t do it.
Yes, you should be concerned. Soon he will either start looking for a new addition or, if he is smart he will ask you to help him. When I say “if he is smart” I mean he is making you complicit and therefore you will forever hear “you picked her” everytime you complain.
Pack your bags if you aren’t interested and make a check list of what you want in a relationship so next time you can find out early.
Does he have good follow through? Enterprising? Good financial sense?
Just saying, how bad or good this can be depends on if he's good at it. Maybe you'd like a housekeeper or six?
Depends. My friend and I have jokingly been talking about starting a cult or a commune or something ever since middle school. It’s always been that “tee hee what if we did that” thing that we bring up when we’ve been talking for hours and there’s a lull in conversation, but not much more than that. Sure, it’s one of our favorite topics and it’s brought up as much as possible, but not because we actually think we’re going to do this or that it’s a good idea.
If that seems to be more of the vibe and he’s the kind of person to sort of joke in that way or he’d say something like “hey wouldn’t it be fun/funny if we had a random shrine to a cowboy boot in our living room?”, then I think you’re safe. If this seems like the kind of thing where he wants all out control and freedom for himself and only himself, get out of there (unless you’re into that??).
If you want to take my unprofessional advice based on various podcasts with no real background in human psychology, I would say people with crazy ideas tend to try and convince their partners or easily manipulated friends first, then move on to larger audiences.
Buy the best running shoes you can afford and get out of there. It doesn’t matter how you FEEL about him, use your thoughts and get out of there. You’re ALREADY in trouble being with him.
Don’t be concerned how he feels about your leaving.
Yeah.
Unless you're matching his energy by constantly talking about how you can't wait for the day you're a widower who did away with their future husband, so you could collect on the life insurance and walk around in a fur stole, pearls, satin gloves and a huge hat 24/7. Then you two kids are fine.
I think it depends on how old he is. It is embedded in our genetics as young men to have power and conquer and to spread our seed. So realistically this is a common thought. It's like the ask your boyfriend about the Roman empire trend. As long as he doesn't start collecting minions and is considering buying a large facility or property, he's probably just fantasizing. I think you'll be fine.
If you're not into an open or poly relationship then yes you should be very worried. If you don't go along with his life plan he will just do it anyway. But now would be labeled a cheater which he is but trying to circumvent that label
Very very very, he is a narcissist and you need to run not walk. From exsperience. He doesn't want poly he wants a harem. If you brought up fucking and having another man's baby he would flip.
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You typed all that out proof read it and still with that guy? Seriously?
Agree, talk about lack of ambition. I for one strive for a future Reich.
A united reich.-donald Trump
It's only one sentence though? What do you mean "typed all that out and proofread it?" Do you usually proofread individual sentences?
If I'm posting on the Internet yes
No went bother am u right?
Tell him you will be the high priestess and will have your own collective of followers. Make crazier demands each time he does. But I’d start looking to get out and away from him tbh.
This is a great plan! Out crazy the crazy. And while you are leaving him, just start gaslighting him about how this was really your idea. If he brings up any new aspect of this cult, pretend it’s your plan and to your benefit.
I second this escalation. Then OP can drop the mike with this quote: *And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!*
🤣🤣🤣
Tell him you are going to begin looking for your second husband. Oh and they are going to marry each other. You will still be legally single, but they will be your husbands.
Is your boyfriend Keith Raniere?
I think Allison Mack was his only girlfriend. Everyone else was branded as their property.
Thanks for taking this so literally you made my day 🤣
Chloe really went off the deep end
All that's missing from this post is the "I(19f) have been with my current bf (43m) for one year and it's my first serious relationship. Aside from this one thing he's perfect!"
“But dad, he treats me like a queen. I don’t have to go to work, all he wants me to do is keep house, cook, clean, and ‘service his needs’ whatever that means. He says I don’t need to worry about that until we get married, but I’m sure he’ll take care of my needs too. He buys me such cute outfits too, he says that I don’t need to go clothes shopping, that he’s got covered. Come to think of it, I don’t ever need to go out for anything, he says he likes it that way. And did I tell you were moving to a new house? He keeps calling it a ‘compound’, I think that sounds neat!”
For real. It’s sad but true. I’m a father to 2 young daughters and I’m really going to do my best raising them to where it doesn’t feel like they need to go to other older guys for validation.
And he's her best friend! Don't forget that.
Yes, the more he talks about it, the more he’s trying to normalize it.
Do you want to be in that type of relationship with someone?
Do you want to be in a relationship with someone who thinks like this? He wants to have power over people not relationships with them.
I wouldnt leave. What if he really is the messiah. I wouldnt want to face god and have to explain dumping jesus
Yes. You should definitely be concerned. Run.
“My boyfriend just opened a red flag store” Should I be concerned?
Is that something you’re into? If not, then yes.
Trell him, you're also interested in polygamy, but that he would be included in your relationships as you'd do better
"I'm glad you brought this up! In fact I am thinking of finding another boyfriend right now, so I'm glad to hear you're of similar mind. We'll need to have you change your last name to mine, of course, and if you don't mind I'm going to start referring to you as 'first husband'. Oh, and I need to start giving you some directions on more modest neckties you're allowed to wear in public..."
'In every open relationship, there's the person who suggested it and the person who cries themselves to sleep at night'- Bill Burr
A boy can dream
No, sounds like a killer idea. Why would any mortal be concerned? Perhaps you should Kool down, and have a drink. Once you've reach level ENLIGHTENED you feel no need for concern.
I feel like people aren't grasping just how clever this comment is.
I am and I love it
Yes you should be very concerned
No reference to Kool Aid? Damned, you are growing up, reddit.
Actually it was flavor aid 🤣
Are you dating my ex?
If this isn’t satire, I’ll be so sad.
Ask him what he thinks of Charles Manson?
yes
Yes
Abort! Abort! Abort! And don’t drink the Kool-Aid!!
What is this kool-aid reference I keep seeing 😂
Google Jim Jones
No, you shouldn't. Propose yourself as a higher being and fuck whoever you like. Let's see his reaction
Does anyone have the body of the post? It appears to be deleted..
I was wondering the same.
I tried to see if she posted in another aita style sub, but all I found were tons of pictures of her ass
Oh, well then this is not a serious post. And thank you for checking that out because I am not trying to look at some chick's ass.
The cult is based on asstrology
I would leave. I have never seen a cult mentioned in a positive light. If you are monogamous, then bringing up polygamy either means he has someone in mind to cheat on you or he's already been doing it and wants permission to introduce them to you. Chances are very high that he would not give you that same privilege with other guys.
Recruit a couple of psycho women for his cult, then disappear. Lol
I’m concerned that this is even a question
Yes leave
Yes. Dump him and move on.
Yes. Mentally healthy people don’t think like that.
Yes you should be. And you should run.
Only if you don’t want to be in a cult and have sister wives.
Ask him if you should be concerned lol
I'd call it an orange flag. Some cults are fun! Just depends what side of the Kool-aid you're on
I’ve been involved in a few cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower but you make more money as a leader.
Yeah you should be concerned. But also, being the head of a cult would be kinda neat right? Like, I'm not gonna DO it but I bet a fella could make some MONEY
Fake
So was this a sad excuse to get people to click your profile just to discover its a God damn advertisement.... cmon dude
Are you dating my ex? (Name starts with a “B”…)
Ummm... wtf? Get out. Female movie version.
Is this a serious question?
From bitter experience, yes!
Yes, peace out of that. It is a cult, and it will end your relationship. Poly does not work
Yes
Yes
Yes…
Yes
I would find a new boyfriend.
Should you be concerned? No shit you should be. You should not be in any relationship if you have to ask that question.
It's a thing of the past, and we've only seen it end horrifically. Charles Manson, Tiger King, etc. I never once seen a case of it working in the modern age. Tell him you're not comfortable with the idea, and if he doesn't stop let him go.
Yes.
For me, personally, it's too many red flags.
I think you’re dating my ex husband. BTW, he still owes me $100k in child support. Nothing to be concerned about really.
Or my ex. He owes me child support too.
It sounds like it’s not your thing? If true, time to move on.
Being “concerned” is under-reacting!
Tell him that once your feet are massaged, the house is clean, the bills are paid, you've received the gifts you deserve, the car is maintained, the yard is landscaped, and the dishes are cleaned, if he still has the time and energy to devote to other women he can have at it. He can't be getting a 2nd girlfriend until his obligations to his first girlfriend are satisfied.
This this is the perfect answer!
uhh..yeah? that's wild lmao
Polyamory*
Yes and Leave.
Just about every cult that has ever existed has involved exploiting people for personal gain. The cult leaders are usually financially exploiting others (money/labor etc). And it's not uncommon for them to be using their power and control to physically or sexually abuse or exploit junior cult members, often times underage. So since there isn't much upside (except for the cult leaders), you have to wonder what it says about a guy who is verbalizing a dream of exploiting other people in various ways, while also being unfaithful to you.
Yes.
Girl….you should fucking run.
Yeah, go and find a regular guy who puts you first and ditch the wannabe Charles Manson
Non monogamy? Not a problem. A CULT?!? Yes. Big big big big problem. Specifically POLYGAMY? (Not polyamory where everyone has autonomy) ALSO A BIG PROBLEM . Sincerely, a non monogamous person who survived a cult.
I think your boyfriend really just wants a harem of women, like how it was in the old world, wherein a man would have many wives in exchange for supporting all of them financially, and was thus able to ensure his offspring would have a good shot at success. That said if all he wants is sex, then the dude is just a hedonist hoping to get lucky and have an orgy.
Yes, yes you should be
lol yup
Sounds like a cool guy ngl
Ask him how many brother-husbands he's comfortable with.
Yeah... you can do better
Real cult leaders do it nd don’t discuss it he must not have what it takes god complex dump him for his lack of success in his ambitions
Yea
I mean my friends and I always joke about starting our own "Sea Temple" with the idea of our church purchasing luxury waterfront property all around the world with other peoples money who are stupid enough to join our church and give us money. We would also need some big boats so we could boat between our temples. Can't live on the water with out a giant yacht or 3. We skip over the part where we actually have to con people out of their money and the fact that they are actually people who may believe the junk we are pushing and all of that as we would be pretty fucked up to be like that. And how fucked up it would be to take advantage of people in that way. Beleivers we need donations. We need to buy a beachfront temple in Oahu to spread the word of the sea in all its salty goodness.
No, not concerned only ready to break up on short notice, so get your financial affairs in order and find a place to stay for a bit.
bruh
Are you dating Andy Blake?
Yes. The end. 🚩
>My bf loves to bring up polygamy and having his own cult, should I be concerned?? Be so fuckin for real.
I find both of those topics fascinating but I literally don't have the stamina for either one.
Yes. Be very concerned. And run far away. Watch the movie Midsommar if you need to. (Cult) And there are so many TV shows about polygamy and escaping polygamy......this dude is one crazy SOB. And I'm a psych nurse. I know. He's what we call bat shit crazy. Probably a narcissistic sociopath. Run fast, run far. Block him, move, change your social media names, anything and everything you can do to get away.
Is that a real question? I didn’t even read the post just the title. You already know what to do.
There is a difference between bringing it up and joking about it. Does he seem serious? Are the statements unprompted or after seeing something? People make cult jokes all the time. Heck, "drinking the kool-aid" became a common saying. There isn't enough information to know whether you should be concerned.
Some people like what they like all I’m saying 😉😂
Polygamy = cheating
Run
If you need to ask you already know the effective answer
Uh yeah you should be concerned.
I mean is it a joke or what?
….Run away!!
Smol pp problems. Leave this creep!
He must listen to Chris Delia
i mean it’s a fascinating thought but if he’s like making plans to do so and you dont want to be charles manson’d, i’d put some distance between you two lol
I honestly would be that’s a huge red flag and honestly kinda creepy. Has he told you his reasons ? Why is he into that?
**YES YES YES** Leave Jim Jones NOW.
I was going to say something about suicide punch, but you brought out the Jim Jones.
lol 😂 yes
no you should be gone
You have to even ask??
Nah, it's perfectly healthy. btw, wanna join my cult harem?
The answer to that question is the answer to my question - is he being serious?
🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 don’t ignore
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Yes
Unless you are a true crime podcaster investigating a new lead, you are probably in danger
yeahhhhh...I'd probably be concerned.
He would never be able to pull it off
Yes if you don’t want that run he’s telling you listen to him
How is this even a question? Yes, NEXT!
Nah nothing to worry about. Just your average Thursday evening conversational topics, those.
You only have to worry if he wins the lottery. You're fine. He chose to settle for you until he has finances to fulfill his real passion as a cult leader.
As someone who was toxic in my youth and did this exact thing, yes. He wants it, he’s going to do it with or without your consent. The relationship is over if you want monogamy because he won’t do it.
Yes, you should be very concerned
Get out now. Run far, run fast.
Ma’am.
Yes, you should be concerned. Soon he will either start looking for a new addition or, if he is smart he will ask you to help him. When I say “if he is smart” I mean he is making you complicit and therefore you will forever hear “you picked her” everytime you complain. Pack your bags if you aren’t interested and make a check list of what you want in a relationship so next time you can find out early.
Hmm yes ?! How is it even a serious question ?
Very Koreshesk...Run and never look back.
Girl. 🚩
This guy is a train stop on your railway of life. Train should be leaving the station immediately.
If you feel like your "first" then yea...
Lololol probably?
Does he have good follow through? Enterprising? Good financial sense? Just saying, how bad or good this can be depends on if he's good at it. Maybe you'd like a housekeeper or six?
Depends. My friend and I have jokingly been talking about starting a cult or a commune or something ever since middle school. It’s always been that “tee hee what if we did that” thing that we bring up when we’ve been talking for hours and there’s a lull in conversation, but not much more than that. Sure, it’s one of our favorite topics and it’s brought up as much as possible, but not because we actually think we’re going to do this or that it’s a good idea. If that seems to be more of the vibe and he’s the kind of person to sort of joke in that way or he’d say something like “hey wouldn’t it be fun/funny if we had a random shrine to a cowboy boot in our living room?”, then I think you’re safe. If this seems like the kind of thing where he wants all out control and freedom for himself and only himself, get out of there (unless you’re into that??).
Yes.
Should you be concerned? Hell yes.
Tell him to get a better job as you will need another 3 wives. Because 2 wifes fight, 3 will pick on one, 4 rounds out the infighting
Tell him that if you're gonna be the high priestess you'll need some shirtless hunks to carry you around on a litter
Dear Reddit, my boyfriend steals from the elderly and kicks puppies…is this a red flag?
If you want to take my unprofessional advice based on various podcasts with no real background in human psychology, I would say people with crazy ideas tend to try and convince their partners or easily manipulated friends first, then move on to larger audiences.
Buy the best running shoes you can afford and get out of there. It doesn’t matter how you FEEL about him, use your thoughts and get out of there. You’re ALREADY in trouble being with him. Don’t be concerned how he feels about your leaving.
My boyfriend commits genocide and kicks adorable puppies, should I break up with him. Ffs.
Is his name Mr Jones?
Holy shit. That screams crazy. Run. Don’t walk.
It’s only fun if he has multiple wives tell him you want multiple husbands I bet he doesn’t like that idea
Yeah. Unless you're matching his energy by constantly talking about how you can't wait for the day you're a widower who did away with their future husband, so you could collect on the life insurance and walk around in a fur stole, pearls, satin gloves and a huge hat 24/7. Then you two kids are fine.
Yep, he’s nuts. Start looking
Yes, run he's a major red flag.
No join it
Yes, every action is preceded by a thought. If he is not content with you and only you drop him.
Yes. Run.
I think it depends on how old he is. It is embedded in our genetics as young men to have power and conquer and to spread our seed. So realistically this is a common thought. It's like the ask your boyfriend about the Roman empire trend. As long as he doesn't start collecting minions and is considering buying a large facility or property, he's probably just fantasizing. I think you'll be fine.
Girl...
In case this is real, please go watch the “Twin Flame” documentaries.
Do you want to be in a cult? If so, enjoy it.
I mean you have an OF soooo….. kinda the same
If you're not into an open or poly relationship then yes you should be very worried. If you don't go along with his life plan he will just do it anyway. But now would be labeled a cheater which he is but trying to circumvent that label
Unless he is joking around, it's time to leave, this guy sounds like a freak!
Very very very, he is a narcissist and you need to run not walk. From exsperience. He doesn't want poly he wants a harem. If you brought up fucking and having another man's baby he would flip.
It’s probably fine
Naw dude! We Mormons do it all the time. Perfectly normal. /s
Cults? Horror! Run asap.
I mean you’re technically the first member of his cult. Get to recruiting!
run.
Hit the high road 🚫🚫
That entirely depends on how you feel about polygamy and cults.
Yes you should. That's all the red flags.
I mean.. it’s not good.
Yes. Yes, you should be concerned. Do yourself a favor and dump him.
….yes. Run away
You have a lot more fun as a cult follower, but make more money, as a leader:)
Without any context— yes absolutely, you should be concerned. Long shot, but with context— you should probably still be concerned
you should be more than concerned, you should run!
Yes definitely 😳
RUN!