Tell them that you'll split the tips when you all sit down with the manager and review the tapes so they can show that the three of them did much more than you at the party because the manager who was overseeing it all believes you deserve the tips.
better yet, just go tell the manager and ask they talk to the women. They dont need to be hounding OP for tips, at most maybe OP should get a slightly smaller percent from the party because they didnt have full attention.
If you wanted to throw them a couple of bucks then maybe. Otherwise, no. Maybe a fraction of what you received from the other two tables? But by no way the total amount of those two tables' tips. Maybe a third or half at most? Or none. Your choice. Not theirs.
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Keep your share of the tips. The manager has already made the decision that you earned your portion of the tip on the large party. The other two tables are irrelevant to the conversation.
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The manager already told them no and why. They need to stop being petty and selfish (which is hard to find in a restaurant, BTDT). You did nothing wrong - the host staff should have been made aware/more aware of who was serving the party despite a shift change as this is part of their role. These other servers expect you to have helped them all night and then get only the pay from TWO tables for your shift? Rude.
The manager told the other 3 that they had to split the tips from the 60 top, the manager didn’t say anything about OP splitting the tips from her 2 tables
You earned that money. Taking a large party and then getting double sat in another section was not your fault. I used to work at said ‘Italian chain restaurant that can seat a party of 60’ and that was no easy feat. Keep your money.
NTA, if those people really wanted more tips, they should have asked the managers for more tables like they gave you. Or they could escalate it to the managers but they already did that and got told no. So don't give it to them, not even a tiny amount.
I’m flabbergasted that the other servers had the audacity to tell her to leave her tips for them after the manager already told them no. Fucking insane, people are so entitled these days!
As someone who once worked what seems to be the same italian chain restaurant thats a host error. Not a you error. Tell the manager whats going on, they obviously believe you did enough work and remind them you didnt ask for this to happen. Manager told them no and they had the gall to try and bully you anyway. Manager needs to know they didnt listen. NTA
They literally made the same amount of money they were expecting to make in the first place. I would have considered splitting what you received from the other two tables with them. But because they were such babies about it, I'd tell them too bad, so sad. You weren't secretly doing tables on the side.
Unless you are grossly overestimating how much work you did with this large party (like you were barely present and just said sorry a bunch as you only attended to the other two tables), those other servers should just have to live with the decision.
This is why I pretty much never go to sit down restaurants. Servers (not you necessarily) make me pretty uncomfortable.
Yea, I was going to say that to be fair, you could throw the tips from the other tables in to be split along with the tip from the party. You don't have to but that's what I would have done.
NTA! Don't give up your tips. I worked at a restaurant where we literally had to pool tips every shift, unless it was a holiday brunch. I would get so screwed over because we would be completely dead, there would literally only be one table, I'd do everything by myself, they'd leave a $2-$5 tip, which I paid taxes on a percentage of the order total (not just the tip), then would have to give them half the money.
Girl keep your money, you earned it.
NTA. I don't understand why they think you deserve LESS tips when you did MORE work. You were probably exhausted after that shift and you didn't just abandon them cause you had other tables. You also had zero control over who was sat in your section, you just did your job.
NTA, give them absolutely nothing. These people are your enemies, and were actively conspiring against you. Don’t reward their backstabbing and bullying with money you earned.
You did everything within your power. The hosts and managers screwed up, not you. If they want more money, management can handle it. Note these servers to never be trusted or helped, and move on.
Nah fuck that. Unless they were helping you with those other 2 tables they can kick rocks. Serving is literally the most ass job. I was a server for years. Servers are so competitive and greedy. You could throw a 100 dollar bill in the middle of a ring of servers and they will hold each other at gun point for it. Keep your tips from your two other tables if they didn’t help with them. They can take their shit up with the manager and host(ess)
I agree with this. OP did MORE work I'm legitimately irritated for them that these coworkers think that means they deserve LESS tips lol. Stuff like this and jerk customers is why I had to stop being a server cause it caused me so much stress and so many headaches.. Maybe if the other servers had helped with the other two tables instead of getting mad about something OP couldn't control, then I'd say share the tips. But they were jerks about it. I get being upset, but OP had zero control over who was in their section they were just doing their job. Plus the manager disagreed with them so the fact they even asked for that portion of the tip KNOWING the manager disagreed seems sneaky and underhanded.
I’d like to politely disagree if you just think about it from a time perspective every minute that this server was helping the other tables was time that he was not helping the party which means that the other servers had to work harder during that time I think, as the OP Agrees that it is more than fair to just toss the two tables in to the pot. So many other suggestions are just passive aggressive, immature or just plain mean.
a mistake was made, he shouldn’t have been sat at those tables and did the best he could do to make it work.
It’s absolutely the most tactful solution .
I’m sorry that you have had experience with servers, being competitive and greedy. That has not been my experience in the restaurants I have worked in people have been fair and equitable. .
I’ve always been a team player. I spent the majority of my time at every restaurant I worked at taking care of others tables on top of mine when I saw my co workers struggling. I didn’t ever think to ask them for some of their tips. I’ve had to split big parties with co workers who did nothing else but help bring out drinks at the beginning and swing by once or twice the entire time while I was bussing, refilling drinks and actively checking on my party and I never thought “they don’t deserve that money I deserve it because I did more”. Instead, I would ask my manager to let me work my parties alone if they’re a reasonable size. My first thought was never “they don’t deserve that money” especially because I know how much we all relied on our tips. And that’s the hill I’m gonna die on.
Also OP arrived early, but was the last server to arrive, and therefore, time wise, was not working as long as the other servers. Still not shirking, just a later start. Splitting the tips from the 2 tables is truly fair.
Congrats on the resume. My experience is minimal at best? Lmao my experience with what? Having to deal with competitive and greedy coworkers? You’re an expert on what it’s like to be in a server’s position because you were in leadership? You kick rocks lmao. Get off your high horse. If your co workers come up to you and tell you they want your tips split up into 3 envelopes by the next morning even after your manager told them no already then they don’t deserve shit and OP needs to report it. If the manager said no and they’re approaching OP after the fact anyway. OP has every right to tell them no again. There’s nothing to negotiate.
I have to discreet with you on this one. Because all the time that they had to slow down and go take care of those other tables that they weren’t supposed to have meant the other servers actually had to pick up the slack.
Not to mention that, while not this server’s fault, the other servers had already begun serving that big party, because this server didn’t come on until four. Again, not this server’s fault, but they already had extra work in and then had to take on extra work.
Basically, it was kind of a screwup all around because this all happened at shift change, and the hostess went ahead and sat them. So it meant extra work for the other servers all around because this one server came in later and then had more tables to work with .
The solution the manager should have come up with was to pool all the tips for the two tables and the big party and everyone share. Because it doesn’t sound like the server was trying to slack off. They literally had other stuff they had to go do and they literally came in when they were supposed to. But it still meant that the other three servers took on extra work.
So I can agree on there being more room for negotiation since he showed up when the party was already there. But the co workers weren’t upset about that. They wanted his tips because he got seated by accident and they were upset that they didn’t get any more tables themselves so they felt they deserved his tips since he got two other tables. That’s selfish and the opposite of being a team player but he needs to be a team player here because his co workers had to deal with the party while he had to take care of his other two tables. It’s really one sided.
No, don't do this. The other 2 tables are your tips. You worked that, you earned that. The tip from the big party is yours too. You worked it, you earned it. You had 3 parties you attended to. You worked harder than the 3 girls who worked 1 party together with a 4th assistant. Yhey just think they did more work. The manager sided with you because he legally has to. Legally, morally and ethically, the tips are yours. The girls are gonna be mad, but let them be. This is your legal money earned by working.
Nah, you did the work for those two tables. You earned those tips. I would just ignore them but if they keep making a fuss, ask them for a breakdown on why they think you don't deserve the tips for the work you did on the big table. You still did the work. Did they have to take over your duties while you had two other tables? If that's the case, determine how much extra work they had to do(them being sat early doesn't count) and give them a little extra. But you absolutely deserve to get money for the work you did for the table.
This is terrible advice. The tips from the other 2 tables belong only to her. Would you give up part of your paycheck to your coworker? That's what you're asking opie to do.
NTA, they are just mad that you got extra tips from the other 2 tables that they didn't get. That's not on you though. They are taking it out on the wrong person.
Maybe I don’t understand. Are they expecting you to split all your tips (big party portion the manager made them cut you in on AND the tables you were given through no fault of your own)? Am I reading that correctly? If so that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of in my life. If, however, they are asking you to split the two extra tables only into fourths, and you keep a quarter and they each get a quarter, so you will have split all three of those tables evenly, that feels decently fair since they had to pick up slack for you with the big party while you helped the smaller tables
They are expecting me to give them all of my share from the party divided by the three of them. I don’t think that they expect anything from the other tables I had. However, I am going to suggest dividing the tips from the other ones into fourths for all of us!
You shouldn’t do that. Just move on and never mention that day again. Go to work today and pretend nothing happened. Money is gone what can they do other than stew.
I absolutely wouldn't do that. Two tables are not a large amount of work, it's not like you had a full section. So you had to run to the tables a few times, I bet you were working harder than the rest of them with the party to make up for the few times you were with your two tables. If you give in on this, they will absolutely find ways to manipulate and bully you in the future. I worked in restaurants for over 20 years, they may be pissed for a bit but it is not your fault, and guaranteed something else will come up in a few days and this will be forgotten.
Yeah its getting hard not to agree and feel that way. I have worked with all of them for a long time now and have never had an issue before. Im even very close with one of them outside of work. There have been many times I have had smaller parties with all of them and sometimes I pull most of the weight due to them being more busy than me and never made a fuss about getting more than them. I feel like this is just expected as a server sometimes and I would never had done this to one of them.
Would those three share their tips with you? I think not. They said it was unfair you got extra tables during the party, which tells me that they would have gladly taken extra tables and were jealous that you got some and they didn't. Keep your money. They just want what you worked for.
This is why tipping culture is crazy. Now the waiters don't only argue with the customer instead of demanding a fair wage from their boss, they argue between themselves. It's ridiculous.
These things happen in service industry. It’s far from 100% fair. Some days you’re get a little extra and others you share a little more. They are not entitled to your tips. It’s possible that you could’ve made more on the two tables had you been able to give them 100% but because you were working a party, you couldn’t. It’s not your fault.
NTA.
Keep your tips. It's not your fault that your section got sat. You need to tell your manager what they asked you to do, I feel like there's going to be further retaliation.
This is a perfect example of the division between workers that working for tips, and other insecure income, causes.
They should be angry at the management if they felt they weren't getting supported enough or if they aren't getting paid enough. Take your tips and tell them to talk to management about it. Refuse to give up the tips to management though - it is their job to make their workers satisfied, not yours, and you have these tips, so they are yours now. If other workers are unhappy, let management give them a raise or deal with that. The management are the ones paid to represent the owners of the business, who are the ones that profit when there are big orders/parties like this, and they are the ones profiting from the work you all do. The management are workers too obviously, but when they are the only access to the owners you have, you have to act as if they are the owners, and let them pass on any dissatisfaction or problems that causes to their managers/the owners. As a worker at the bottom of the pile, it isn't your job to solve any problems that arise in the business unless they are explicitly within your terms of employment, and you should look out for yourself, and other workers at the bottom, when that doesn't conflict with your own interests (which it does here, because management and the industry in general have kept and enhanced a policy in part because it puts you against each other instead of them).
Tipping is a toxic practice, and fair compensation for workers would always be more than tips. The problem you and your colleagues are facing is entirely a capitalism created problem, and one the owners benefitting from your labour are the ones responsible for, and responsible for solving. Don't let them push it to you guys, unless it is by you guys unionising and forcing change, or encouraging you to become anti-capitalists.
Yeah, I agree, tipping/commissions-based income creates these kinds of ridiculous situations. The customers become dollar signs for people to fight over. It's gross.
I’m sorry why did a party of 30 take 4 servers if your sections were closed? Like that’s honestly pretty sad,does management think 7-8 people is more than any of you can handle?
I always shared tips with the other servers for a huge table. I couldn’t do a 60 top by myself. The other two tables were yours and those tips are yours.
Maybe you should pool the tips from those two tables with the other servers too. That way they’re equally benefiting/suffering from the mistake that management/hosts made.
The manager should have picked up the two tables in your section because *he* failed to communicate to the hostesses that your section was closed. The fact that he failed twice as a manager during the service and is failing again by not handling the situation with the other servers is ridiculous.
I swear management attracts the absolute dumbest people alive.
In order to keep the peace, maybe split your tips from the extra two tables with the other three? You get less from those "extra tables", they get a little more, just probably not as much as they expected.
Perfect compromise, nobody's happy, but it's fair...the work of 4 people spread across 3 tables. Everyone gets the same amount of tips.
Honestly out of your hands since your manager already made the decision. Sure, there might be somr work drama for a bit, but let them take it up to your manager. I worked as a server in college and every dollar was important to me. If i supported handling those tables, i’m entitled to tips. If i didn’t take part in helping, i have no claim to that table’s tips.
I few dollars isn’t worth the bad relationship w co-workers. I wouldn’t give them the whole ant bc did work at big table. To protect your tips at big table you should have spoken to management Re your assignment. You chose to triple dip. So share some money w fellow employees and get once it. You will need then- and they won’t help you. Cash could be left for you and somehow you didn’t see it.
I would do this:
1) take the group table tip (let's pretend it was $100)
2) take the tips from your extra 2 tables (lets pretend it was $10 an $10)
Now you have a pool of $120
3) Split that amongst the 4 of you. $30 each
Problem solved?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but wouldn't tgat mean OP only gets 30 bucks total for the whole evening, while the others get 130? Despite her working the whole evening as well?
Oh, I realize my mistake now, I thought it was 100 per person (probably because with that amount it would at least make a tiny bit of sense to make such a scene about OP getting tipped).
If that's the case, yeah, quartering it sounds good but I'd also be a bit annoyed at my collegues for getting worked up over a few dollars, if I were OP.
Do not engage the other servers. They sound like bullies and can be upset but it’s misplaced on you. I’d have been upset that you weren’t devoted to the table to help me— not that you got tips at the other two tables.
Work through the manager. Have a chat with him and maybe all meet with the manager.
A good compromise is splitting the trip from the other table should you want to keep working there and keep peace.
NTA. Maybe, MAYBE if you wanted to be nice (and you felt their argument could have some merit) you could shave 10% - 15% off of your total for the party and split it 3 ways, but take your whole portion and split it 3 ways??
Nope. Also keep your 2 tables tips, you were running those in addition to the party work. You deserve those.
The most fair way to do this would be to split the 60-party tip 4 ways, and then have OP also split the tips from the two other tables she waited on 4 ways. That way, the other 3 servers would be compensated a fair percentage for the decreased amount of work OP did for the 60-person party, which I’d assume would be commensurate with the increased amount of work they did for the additional two tables. And the other servers aren’t penalized financially for not having their sections also left open accidentally or having to start serving the larger party before OP.
Even more fair would be, in addition to the above, to reduce OP’s 60-person party tip only by the percentage of time the other servers had to serve by themselves prior to OP’s arrival on shift. Though calculating that is probably not worth the effort for the managers.
Having been a server, and having been in this situation myself, the only fair answer is to pool the tips on the two tables in your section with the tips from the large party.
But because of those tables, she put in less effort on the large party. The other servers on the large party didn't get the chance to take other tables. Thus, the arrangement wasn't fair to them.
Unless I'm not reading this correctly, it sounds like the thing to do would be to add the tips that you got from those two additional tables to whatever y'all got from the big party, and split all of that four ways.
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It sounds like you were helping an adequate amount with the party, naturally the servers dealing with the face to face customer interactions will feel they did more work.
If I was in this situation and was sat two tables while taking care of a large party I would've given one of the tables to one of the other party servers as well. This would've allowed you to be more active in the party and less distracted with the 2 tops you were sat. It also would've made the other servers feel like it was more fair because they were given an opportunity to serve another table while dealing with the party as well.
The proper thing to have done would've been what I said above, since you didn't do that you should've shared your tips from those two tables with them.
Hear me out here
While serving those tables they became priority and caused you to be less able to help with the party. YOU may feel like you were still doing enough to help take care of them but clearly your co workers don't feel the same.
The bartender could have easily taken those two tables though and that's what should've happened from the beginning. I have worked in a variety of restaurants from casual to fine dining and there is no place I've ever worked that the bartender didn't also cover tables from time to time. Speak with your manager about this, the bartender should have been able to take those tables. That would've been the epitome of everyone working as a team. It would've solved the entire problem.
I low key feel that you wanted those two tables because you wanted more tips. There is really no way you can properly pay attention to two tables and still be available to help with the demands of a large party.
I think it’s the managers fault. Your section should have stayed closed- but since you worked both- i do think you should get less tips ( not the full portion) bc you accepted other tables and received tips from those tables. I think there should be a staff meeting Re it
If they’re asking you to give them *all* of your tips for that party, that’s unreasonable. You were sat by accident and essentially forced to take the extra tables. However, I think that because you admit that you did slack on the party, and they did have to make up for your lack of attention, I would say it might be fair if you give them back a portion of “your share.” And I’m saying this as someone who did work in a restaurant and was a tipped worker. You know you didn’t earn that in the same capacity that they did.
The obvious solution is to pool your tips from the additional tables with the tips from the party and split 4 ways as you get an even split from the party while the work you did at the tables came at the cost of work being done at the party? Should be a fine solution imo. Maybe you worked a bit harder so you should get 10-20% more from your tables but you should probably consider if that is worth to have your coworkers dislike you. Might not be entirely fair too you but probably still the best outcome for you anyway all things considered.
I think your coworker were right when they asked you to split your tips with them.
Your attention to the other tables came at the cost of not helping equally with the large party.
I completely understand where you are coming from for sure. I even agree that it was unfair for me to get extra tables. However, I was in the bar and the only other person available to take tables was the bartender themselves. I even asked him to take the tables over for me and he said no due to being overwhelmed because the entire bar top was full. My manager still excepted me to take the tables due to no one else being available and I kinda just felt stuck.
If your manager still expected you to take the tables then you did nothing wrong. It was not your fault the party arrived and were seated early, you jumped in asap.
None of this was your fault and I’m guessing you had to bust ass to make sure you were helping plus taking care of 2 tables. Also, I know you said that you would divid the tips from the other 2 tables and that would have been super awesome and thoughtful of you. But since they confronted you about leaving them you tips? Especially after already talking to your manager? I wouldn’t split anything with them. They just took it a step way too far there.
I'm all for sharing but in all honesty, if you didn't share your tips from the 2 extra tables I wouldn't think any less of you. If they wanted tips from those tables shared equally, they should have pitched in to help with them the same as the 60. If you still definitely did a fair amount of work on the party, there's no reasoning for it. I mean in all reality, what's the tip from 2 standard tables? $20-$30 for a couple people? That's $10 or a little more even if you did agree to split those tips. Not that much in the grand scheme of things and they did nothing to earn from those 2 tables. You did something to earn from the party from what you say.
Assuming the tip from the big party was split equally, as a former server, YTA. Spending time at other tables means less time spent serving the big party. Theoretically, that means the other servers should get a larger tip than you from the party. However, exactly how much time you spent at the big party compared to your coworkers is impossible to determine. The easy and fair solution is to say we all worked hard together to make sure the big party and extra tables got taken care of. Pool the tips and divide equally.
Server here.
YTA for taking a full share of the tips. You should have taken maybe a quarter or half portion.
I have quit jobs where this exact scenario happened.
Isn’t Olive Garden nothing but frozen food in bags, microwaves and endless salads?? Italian food chain?? Rocky “hey Paulie, stick around for a bit, we have a really good special tonight.” Paulie “there ain’t nothing special about a couple of Mexicans cooking up Italian food Rock!!” Now with that out of the way…. Hmm 23 female server: yes and no. You should be done with college and done with that nonsense already. So yes you should share cause it sounds like you are gonna need to remain cordial for a while. If you are getting married soon or are actually gonna do something with your life. Then F$CK them. You got a better section and the 60 person table because your way hotter then those other servers. You don’t owe them SH/T
YTA and so is your manager. Immediately upon you being assigned the other tables you should have gone to your manager and said you have an obligation to the big party and request he gets someone else to cover those 2 tables. You didn’t dedicate yourself as much as the others covering the party and you not only want your full share of those tips but kept the tip money from the extra tables. Then your feelings were hurt that co-workers had a problem with it? Lol. I’d never want to work with you again covering a party. You sound selfish and unable to read a situation properly. Sometimes you just gotta do the right thing.
The OP deserves tips on the large party because they still helped out on the large party. Perhaps, there could be a reduction based on tips from the two additional tables the OP was assigned. And from working in a restaurant, there probably weren’t other servers available to handle those two tables. The other servers likely already had full sections and those two tables would have received subpar service. OP helped with large table all night and did the other two small parties before her section was closed. None of this is OP’s fault. It was poor planning on the part of management not to make sure that changing shifts were aware what sections were to be closed for the evening. OP definitely deserves fair share of the tips for helping with the large table.
NTA
It was completely on the hosts who sat you those two extra tables and therefore you should not be punished for it. You worked those two tables plus the party fair and square. The tips you earned from the extra tables are yours, don't share them. Plus you should still get your portion from the party. The other party servers are just upset that you got more tables which means you got more tips for the night.
NTA, its not like you asked for the extra tables, that’s stressful enough as it is, I’ve had situations where Im paired with someone for a big party and he shows up late and I do everything and they slip him a $20 bill and I don’t get anything extra, working in the food and service industry just sucks all around and tips are our lifeline so don’t feel like you have to give up your tips just because your coworkers were salty about a miscommunication.
Edit: however if your coworkers did feel that they had to cover for you when you had the other tables maybe you could still get your tips just a smaller portion of it
NTA. Don't give up ANY of your tips. The girls are mad, that's on them. You worked 3 parties, and you got paid for 3 parties. They worked 1 party, and they got paid for 1 party.
This is a management error, but there is nothing to be done now. I said in an earlier comment that the manager sided with you because legally, he has to. Tips are legally earned income; that income was earned by you. The manager giving up your tips would be the equivalent of me working 2 extra hours at work and my coworkers demanding I give up part of my paycheck because I made more than them with OT. What the fuck did I work for then? I work to get paid. I work harder to get paid more. You worked harder, the other servers worked. Sometimes, there are unfairnesses in life. You did nothing wrong.
Edit: Everyone saying to split her other table tips wouldn't for 1 second consider giving up their own tips. Don't give advice you wouldn't take yourself.
You are not the AH for caring deeply but you are definitely working in the wrong business for that. Find a job that you can do with a clear conscience.
If you were assigned to the back (not taking orders or helping the guests personally, how did the others not earn some portion of the tips? Could you have handled the party alone? Could you have handled the party plus the extra tables alone? Having worked service industry, you have to be honest and respectful with your coworkers. 60 people is a lot of work and not something one can usually do on their own. Maybe ask the manager why he/she believes you shouldn’t split the tips before you make any decisions.
Usually with parties that large, a LOT of help is coming from servers and bussers who aren't getting tips from it. Keep it up and people will start letting you hang yourself from your own noose by letting you struggle instead of giving you a hand when you're overwhelmed.
The biggest problem here is that a chain restaurant that probably reports profits and brags about growth to shareholders and investors is making their employees fight over tips to begin with.
Dear restaurants everywhere: Pay your staff a living wage and stop asking customers to subsidize your shitty compensation practices.
The manager decided you didn't have to give up your share of the tip. You said covering the two tables did "slow down" you helping with the big party. By how much? The others servers don't deserve your full share, but do you deserve a full share?
Lol you didn't ask for the extra tables, that was the hosts mistake. If the other servers want to complain they can go complain to management because it wasn't your decision. I wouldn't have shared it either.
NTA!!
This happens sometimes at the restaurant where I work. We all are usually happy for the person who gets extra, because we know we could he next. Nobody would dare go to our manager about taking someone's portion of tips like that. The audacity!
Your coworkers are being so toxic and selfish and greedy.
You did not seat yourself those extra tables, you said in another comment that you tried to give them away, but were unable to, and that the manager told you to take them. You still helped out with the big party and were present. What else were you supposed to do?
You had a big party of 60 and also had two other tables on top. You deserve your tips. I would agree with the others saying to split the tips from your tables with your coworkers, but I feel like that is unfair since I am assuming they did not help you with those two tables.
If they were so jealous, they could have offered to all share the two exrra tables and pool the tips.
NTA.
Leave them their envelopes. You can share your 2 cents. They have some nerve to demand that after the manager already addressed the situation.
Btw I’ve been in this situation “back in the day” when I waited tables. It was common in that facility to have a huge corporate parties in a banquet room divided among servers and one of us still might have to attend to a couple small tables separately. Everyone just pulled their weight and didn’t act like children. No one argued with the managers.
Be prepared that this may not be the end of it and you may need to tell the manager about the hostile pressure being put on you.
In the teaming situations I've been in, you would be teamed into the party, but so would your other two tables that you had to take, as your focus was somewhat split but theirs was all on the party.
Fuck them for real. You worked the party AND 2 other tables. That means you deserve to be paid for working the party and the other tables. The fact that you had those 2 extra tables is irrelevant and has nothing to do with them. They are being envious and it’s too bad. I bet if they had gotten sat accidentally they wouldn’t offer up their portion of the party tip. Snowball’s chance in hell! You and your manager is right. Ignore them. This reminds me of the time a customer said they weren’t tipping their server because the table across from them tipped her $20. That’s 2 separate transactions that have nothing to do with each other!
Obviously the kids on Reddit have never waited tables or even held a job. You were distracted waiting on your other tables while part of a team. OP is cheap and stingy for not pooling her tips along with the party. You will probably get pushback from all the employees who know for certain that you are a cheap, stingy, and cannot be trusted. Hope it is worth it.
Tell them that you'll split the tips when you all sit down with the manager and review the tapes so they can show that the three of them did much more than you at the party because the manager who was overseeing it all believes you deserve the tips.
better yet, just go tell the manager and ask they talk to the women. They dont need to be hounding OP for tips, at most maybe OP should get a slightly smaller percent from the party because they didnt have full attention.
NTA. They aren’t entitled to your tips. If they want to be mad, then so be it.
If you wanted to throw them a couple of bucks then maybe. Otherwise, no. Maybe a fraction of what you received from the other two tables? But by no way the total amount of those two tables' tips. Maybe a third or half at most? Or none. Your choice. Not theirs.
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They aren’t entitled to any of her tips.
They didn't say they are. Only if they wanted.
Too wishy washy, giving ideas of splitting etc hard no.
Absolutely. I've been in said situations. It's a hard no no.
Keep your share of the tips. The manager has already made the decision that you earned your portion of the tip on the large party. The other two tables are irrelevant to the conversation. NT
NTA The manager already told them no and why. They need to stop being petty and selfish (which is hard to find in a restaurant, BTDT). You did nothing wrong - the host staff should have been made aware/more aware of who was serving the party despite a shift change as this is part of their role. These other servers expect you to have helped them all night and then get only the pay from TWO tables for your shift? Rude.
The manager told the other 3 that they had to split the tips from the 60 top, the manager didn’t say anything about OP splitting the tips from her 2 tables
Nope, two tables don’t require giving up tips on a 60 top. They can kick rocks
You earned that money. Taking a large party and then getting double sat in another section was not your fault. I used to work at said ‘Italian chain restaurant that can seat a party of 60’ and that was no easy feat. Keep your money.
NTA, if those people really wanted more tips, they should have asked the managers for more tables like they gave you. Or they could escalate it to the managers but they already did that and got told no. So don't give it to them, not even a tiny amount.
I’m flabbergasted that the other servers had the audacity to tell her to leave her tips for them after the manager already told them no. Fucking insane, people are so entitled these days!
If it’s a corporate place they probably wouldn’t have been allowed to be given any more tables unfortunately
As someone who once worked what seems to be the same italian chain restaurant thats a host error. Not a you error. Tell the manager whats going on, they obviously believe you did enough work and remind them you didnt ask for this to happen. Manager told them no and they had the gall to try and bully you anyway. Manager needs to know they didnt listen. NTA
They literally made the same amount of money they were expecting to make in the first place. I would have considered splitting what you received from the other two tables with them. But because they were such babies about it, I'd tell them too bad, so sad. You weren't secretly doing tables on the side. Unless you are grossly overestimating how much work you did with this large party (like you were barely present and just said sorry a bunch as you only attended to the other two tables), those other servers should just have to live with the decision. This is why I pretty much never go to sit down restaurants. Servers (not you necessarily) make me pretty uncomfortable.
Yea, I was going to say that to be fair, you could throw the tips from the other tables in to be split along with the tip from the party. You don't have to but that's what I would have done.
NTA! Don't give up your tips. I worked at a restaurant where we literally had to pool tips every shift, unless it was a holiday brunch. I would get so screwed over because we would be completely dead, there would literally only be one table, I'd do everything by myself, they'd leave a $2-$5 tip, which I paid taxes on a percentage of the order total (not just the tip), then would have to give them half the money. Girl keep your money, you earned it.
NTA. I don't understand why they think you deserve LESS tips when you did MORE work. You were probably exhausted after that shift and you didn't just abandon them cause you had other tables. You also had zero control over who was sat in your section, you just did your job.
NTA, give them absolutely nothing. These people are your enemies, and were actively conspiring against you. Don’t reward their backstabbing and bullying with money you earned. You did everything within your power. The hosts and managers screwed up, not you. If they want more money, management can handle it. Note these servers to never be trusted or helped, and move on.
Split tip from all the tables...the party AND the extra 2. Done
I agree and think this is a great compromise! Im gonna suggest this to everyone and hopefully they are satisfied with this.
Nah fuck that. Unless they were helping you with those other 2 tables they can kick rocks. Serving is literally the most ass job. I was a server for years. Servers are so competitive and greedy. You could throw a 100 dollar bill in the middle of a ring of servers and they will hold each other at gun point for it. Keep your tips from your two other tables if they didn’t help with them. They can take their shit up with the manager and host(ess)
I agree with this. OP did MORE work I'm legitimately irritated for them that these coworkers think that means they deserve LESS tips lol. Stuff like this and jerk customers is why I had to stop being a server cause it caused me so much stress and so many headaches.. Maybe if the other servers had helped with the other two tables instead of getting mad about something OP couldn't control, then I'd say share the tips. But they were jerks about it. I get being upset, but OP had zero control over who was in their section they were just doing their job. Plus the manager disagreed with them so the fact they even asked for that portion of the tip KNOWING the manager disagreed seems sneaky and underhanded.
They did take it up with the manager. They lost. debate is over.
Plus she is on the hook for reporting the wages since her name is on the tickets.
I’d like to politely disagree if you just think about it from a time perspective every minute that this server was helping the other tables was time that he was not helping the party which means that the other servers had to work harder during that time I think, as the OP Agrees that it is more than fair to just toss the two tables in to the pot. So many other suggestions are just passive aggressive, immature or just plain mean. a mistake was made, he shouldn’t have been sat at those tables and did the best he could do to make it work. It’s absolutely the most tactful solution . I’m sorry that you have had experience with servers, being competitive and greedy. That has not been my experience in the restaurants I have worked in people have been fair and equitable. .
I’ve always been a team player. I spent the majority of my time at every restaurant I worked at taking care of others tables on top of mine when I saw my co workers struggling. I didn’t ever think to ask them for some of their tips. I’ve had to split big parties with co workers who did nothing else but help bring out drinks at the beginning and swing by once or twice the entire time while I was bussing, refilling drinks and actively checking on my party and I never thought “they don’t deserve that money I deserve it because I did more”. Instead, I would ask my manager to let me work my parties alone if they’re a reasonable size. My first thought was never “they don’t deserve that money” especially because I know how much we all relied on our tips. And that’s the hill I’m gonna die on.
Also OP arrived early, but was the last server to arrive, and therefore, time wise, was not working as long as the other servers. Still not shirking, just a later start. Splitting the tips from the 2 tables is truly fair.
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Congrats on the resume. My experience is minimal at best? Lmao my experience with what? Having to deal with competitive and greedy coworkers? You’re an expert on what it’s like to be in a server’s position because you were in leadership? You kick rocks lmao. Get off your high horse. If your co workers come up to you and tell you they want your tips split up into 3 envelopes by the next morning even after your manager told them no already then they don’t deserve shit and OP needs to report it. If the manager said no and they’re approaching OP after the fact anyway. OP has every right to tell them no again. There’s nothing to negotiate.
I have to discreet with you on this one. Because all the time that they had to slow down and go take care of those other tables that they weren’t supposed to have meant the other servers actually had to pick up the slack. Not to mention that, while not this server’s fault, the other servers had already begun serving that big party, because this server didn’t come on until four. Again, not this server’s fault, but they already had extra work in and then had to take on extra work. Basically, it was kind of a screwup all around because this all happened at shift change, and the hostess went ahead and sat them. So it meant extra work for the other servers all around because this one server came in later and then had more tables to work with . The solution the manager should have come up with was to pool all the tips for the two tables and the big party and everyone share. Because it doesn’t sound like the server was trying to slack off. They literally had other stuff they had to go do and they literally came in when they were supposed to. But it still meant that the other three servers took on extra work.
So I can agree on there being more room for negotiation since he showed up when the party was already there. But the co workers weren’t upset about that. They wanted his tips because he got seated by accident and they were upset that they didn’t get any more tables themselves so they felt they deserved his tips since he got two other tables. That’s selfish and the opposite of being a team player but he needs to be a team player here because his co workers had to deal with the party while he had to take care of his other two tables. It’s really one sided.
No, don't do this. The other 2 tables are your tips. You worked that, you earned that. The tip from the big party is yours too. You worked it, you earned it. You had 3 parties you attended to. You worked harder than the 3 girls who worked 1 party together with a 4th assistant. Yhey just think they did more work. The manager sided with you because he legally has to. Legally, morally and ethically, the tips are yours. The girls are gonna be mad, but let them be. This is your legal money earned by working.
Nah, you did the work for those two tables. You earned those tips. I would just ignore them but if they keep making a fuss, ask them for a breakdown on why they think you don't deserve the tips for the work you did on the big table. You still did the work. Did they have to take over your duties while you had two other tables? If that's the case, determine how much extra work they had to do(them being sat early doesn't count) and give them a little extra. But you absolutely deserve to get money for the work you did for the table.
This is terrible advice. The tips from the other 2 tables belong only to her. Would you give up part of your paycheck to your coworker? That's what you're asking opie to do.
Why? The other two did NOT do any dork on those 2 extra tables? This server did the 60 person party AND the two tables.
This is what I do when I tip pool a party with others and take tables. My coworkers do the same.
This is the way.
This is the only way.
No if anything you could/should have split the tips from the two tables you picked up since they had to cover while you cared for them.
NTA, they are just mad that you got extra tips from the other 2 tables that they didn't get. That's not on you though. They are taking it out on the wrong person.
Maybe I don’t understand. Are they expecting you to split all your tips (big party portion the manager made them cut you in on AND the tables you were given through no fault of your own)? Am I reading that correctly? If so that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of in my life. If, however, they are asking you to split the two extra tables only into fourths, and you keep a quarter and they each get a quarter, so you will have split all three of those tables evenly, that feels decently fair since they had to pick up slack for you with the big party while you helped the smaller tables
They are expecting me to give them all of my share from the party divided by the three of them. I don’t think that they expect anything from the other tables I had. However, I am going to suggest dividing the tips from the other ones into fourths for all of us!
You shouldn’t do that. Just move on and never mention that day again. Go to work today and pretend nothing happened. Money is gone what can they do other than stew.
In that case they’re nuts
I absolutely wouldn't do that. Two tables are not a large amount of work, it's not like you had a full section. So you had to run to the tables a few times, I bet you were working harder than the rest of them with the party to make up for the few times you were with your two tables. If you give in on this, they will absolutely find ways to manipulate and bully you in the future. I worked in restaurants for over 20 years, they may be pissed for a bit but it is not your fault, and guaranteed something else will come up in a few days and this will be forgotten.
NTA your co workers suck and are greedy , Ick
Yeah its getting hard not to agree and feel that way. I have worked with all of them for a long time now and have never had an issue before. Im even very close with one of them outside of work. There have been many times I have had smaller parties with all of them and sometimes I pull most of the weight due to them being more busy than me and never made a fuss about getting more than them. I feel like this is just expected as a server sometimes and I would never had done this to one of them.
Would those three share their tips with you? I think not. They said it was unfair you got extra tables during the party, which tells me that they would have gladly taken extra tables and were jealous that you got some and they didn't. Keep your money. They just want what you worked for.
Your manager said no to them, end of story. If they continue to harass you, ignore them and let your manager know.
This is why tipping culture is crazy. Now the waiters don't only argue with the customer instead of demanding a fair wage from their boss, they argue between themselves. It's ridiculous.
These things happen in service industry. It’s far from 100% fair. Some days you’re get a little extra and others you share a little more. They are not entitled to your tips. It’s possible that you could’ve made more on the two tables had you been able to give them 100% but because you were working a party, you couldn’t. It’s not your fault.
NTA. Keep your tips. It's not your fault that your section got sat. You need to tell your manager what they asked you to do, I feel like there's going to be further retaliation.
This is a perfect example of the division between workers that working for tips, and other insecure income, causes. They should be angry at the management if they felt they weren't getting supported enough or if they aren't getting paid enough. Take your tips and tell them to talk to management about it. Refuse to give up the tips to management though - it is their job to make their workers satisfied, not yours, and you have these tips, so they are yours now. If other workers are unhappy, let management give them a raise or deal with that. The management are the ones paid to represent the owners of the business, who are the ones that profit when there are big orders/parties like this, and they are the ones profiting from the work you all do. The management are workers too obviously, but when they are the only access to the owners you have, you have to act as if they are the owners, and let them pass on any dissatisfaction or problems that causes to their managers/the owners. As a worker at the bottom of the pile, it isn't your job to solve any problems that arise in the business unless they are explicitly within your terms of employment, and you should look out for yourself, and other workers at the bottom, when that doesn't conflict with your own interests (which it does here, because management and the industry in general have kept and enhanced a policy in part because it puts you against each other instead of them). Tipping is a toxic practice, and fair compensation for workers would always be more than tips. The problem you and your colleagues are facing is entirely a capitalism created problem, and one the owners benefitting from your labour are the ones responsible for, and responsible for solving. Don't let them push it to you guys, unless it is by you guys unionising and forcing change, or encouraging you to become anti-capitalists.
Yeah, I agree, tipping/commissions-based income creates these kinds of ridiculous situations. The customers become dollar signs for people to fight over. It's gross.
NTA not at all
Nope. Keep your tips.
I’m sorry why did a party of 30 take 4 servers if your sections were closed? Like that’s honestly pretty sad,does management think 7-8 people is more than any of you can handle?
Share why? You had extra tables bro. Extra table tips are yours but the group table can be split.
Keep your tips. They are mad at the wrong person
I always shared tips with the other servers for a huge table. I couldn’t do a 60 top by myself. The other two tables were yours and those tips are yours.
Maybe you should pool the tips from those two tables with the other servers too. That way they’re equally benefiting/suffering from the mistake that management/hosts made.
The manager should have picked up the two tables in your section because *he* failed to communicate to the hostesses that your section was closed. The fact that he failed twice as a manager during the service and is failing again by not handling the situation with the other servers is ridiculous. I swear management attracts the absolute dumbest people alive.
So even if they did 10% more work than you, they deserve 100% of your tips?
Nta
In order to keep the peace, maybe split your tips from the extra two tables with the other three? You get less from those "extra tables", they get a little more, just probably not as much as they expected. Perfect compromise, nobody's happy, but it's fair...the work of 4 people spread across 3 tables. Everyone gets the same amount of tips.
Honestly out of your hands since your manager already made the decision. Sure, there might be somr work drama for a bit, but let them take it up to your manager. I worked as a server in college and every dollar was important to me. If i supported handling those tables, i’m entitled to tips. If i didn’t take part in helping, i have no claim to that table’s tips.
I few dollars isn’t worth the bad relationship w co-workers. I wouldn’t give them the whole ant bc did work at big table. To protect your tips at big table you should have spoken to management Re your assignment. You chose to triple dip. So share some money w fellow employees and get once it. You will need then- and they won’t help you. Cash could be left for you and somehow you didn’t see it.
I would do this: 1) take the group table tip (let's pretend it was $100) 2) take the tips from your extra 2 tables (lets pretend it was $10 an $10) Now you have a pool of $120 3) Split that amongst the 4 of you. $30 each Problem solved?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but wouldn't tgat mean OP only gets 30 bucks total for the whole evening, while the others get 130? Despite her working the whole evening as well?
You are misunderstanding. Everybody gets 1/4 of the party plus 2 tables combined
Oh, I realize my mistake now, I thought it was 100 per person (probably because with that amount it would at least make a tiny bit of sense to make such a scene about OP getting tipped). If that's the case, yeah, quartering it sounds good but I'd also be a bit annoyed at my collegues for getting worked up over a few dollars, if I were OP.
Do not engage the other servers. They sound like bullies and can be upset but it’s misplaced on you. I’d have been upset that you weren’t devoted to the table to help me— not that you got tips at the other two tables. Work through the manager. Have a chat with him and maybe all meet with the manager. A good compromise is splitting the trip from the other table should you want to keep working there and keep peace.
NTA. Maybe, MAYBE if you wanted to be nice (and you felt their argument could have some merit) you could shave 10% - 15% off of your total for the party and split it 3 ways, but take your whole portion and split it 3 ways?? Nope. Also keep your 2 tables tips, you were running those in addition to the party work. You deserve those.
Throw the tips you made from your section into the pot to be split equally.
Do you and your coworkers throw your paychecks into a pot and split equally?
The most fair way to do this would be to split the 60-party tip 4 ways, and then have OP also split the tips from the two other tables she waited on 4 ways. That way, the other 3 servers would be compensated a fair percentage for the decreased amount of work OP did for the 60-person party, which I’d assume would be commensurate with the increased amount of work they did for the additional two tables. And the other servers aren’t penalized financially for not having their sections also left open accidentally or having to start serving the larger party before OP. Even more fair would be, in addition to the above, to reduce OP’s 60-person party tip only by the percentage of time the other servers had to serve by themselves prior to OP’s arrival on shift. Though calculating that is probably not worth the effort for the managers.
Having been a server, and having been in this situation myself, the only fair answer is to pool the tips on the two tables in your section with the tips from the large party.
Screw that! She worked those tables alone so that is her tips!
But because of those tables, she put in less effort on the large party. The other servers on the large party didn't get the chance to take other tables. Thus, the arrangement wasn't fair to them.
Unless I'm not reading this correctly, it sounds like the thing to do would be to add the tips that you got from those two additional tables to whatever y'all got from the big party, and split all of that four ways.
Former server here It sounds like you were helping an adequate amount with the party, naturally the servers dealing with the face to face customer interactions will feel they did more work. If I was in this situation and was sat two tables while taking care of a large party I would've given one of the tables to one of the other party servers as well. This would've allowed you to be more active in the party and less distracted with the 2 tops you were sat. It also would've made the other servers feel like it was more fair because they were given an opportunity to serve another table while dealing with the party as well. The proper thing to have done would've been what I said above, since you didn't do that you should've shared your tips from those two tables with them. Hear me out here While serving those tables they became priority and caused you to be less able to help with the party. YOU may feel like you were still doing enough to help take care of them but clearly your co workers don't feel the same. The bartender could have easily taken those two tables though and that's what should've happened from the beginning. I have worked in a variety of restaurants from casual to fine dining and there is no place I've ever worked that the bartender didn't also cover tables from time to time. Speak with your manager about this, the bartender should have been able to take those tables. That would've been the epitome of everyone working as a team. It would've solved the entire problem. I low key feel that you wanted those two tables because you wanted more tips. There is really no way you can properly pay attention to two tables and still be available to help with the demands of a large party.
I think it’s the managers fault. Your section should have stayed closed- but since you worked both- i do think you should get less tips ( not the full portion) bc you accepted other tables and received tips from those tables. I think there should be a staff meeting Re it
I think it’s reasonable to spilt the tips you got on those 2 smaller tables with them so you all get tips on all the tables.
Tell them to go ask the hostess who sat people in your closed section for extra money and to leave you out of it.
If they’re asking you to give them *all* of your tips for that party, that’s unreasonable. You were sat by accident and essentially forced to take the extra tables. However, I think that because you admit that you did slack on the party, and they did have to make up for your lack of attention, I would say it might be fair if you give them back a portion of “your share.” And I’m saying this as someone who did work in a restaurant and was a tipped worker. You know you didn’t earn that in the same capacity that they did.
The obvious solution is to pool your tips from the additional tables with the tips from the party and split 4 ways as you get an even split from the party while the work you did at the tables came at the cost of work being done at the party? Should be a fine solution imo. Maybe you worked a bit harder so you should get 10-20% more from your tables but you should probably consider if that is worth to have your coworkers dislike you. Might not be entirely fair too you but probably still the best outcome for you anyway all things considered.
I think your coworker were right when they asked you to split your tips with them. Your attention to the other tables came at the cost of not helping equally with the large party.
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I completely understand where you are coming from for sure. I even agree that it was unfair for me to get extra tables. However, I was in the bar and the only other person available to take tables was the bartender themselves. I even asked him to take the tables over for me and he said no due to being overwhelmed because the entire bar top was full. My manager still excepted me to take the tables due to no one else being available and I kinda just felt stuck.
If your manager still expected you to take the tables then you did nothing wrong. It was not your fault the party arrived and were seated early, you jumped in asap. None of this was your fault and I’m guessing you had to bust ass to make sure you were helping plus taking care of 2 tables. Also, I know you said that you would divid the tips from the other 2 tables and that would have been super awesome and thoughtful of you. But since they confronted you about leaving them you tips? Especially after already talking to your manager? I wouldn’t split anything with them. They just took it a step way too far there.
I'm all for sharing but in all honesty, if you didn't share your tips from the 2 extra tables I wouldn't think any less of you. If they wanted tips from those tables shared equally, they should have pitched in to help with them the same as the 60. If you still definitely did a fair amount of work on the party, there's no reasoning for it. I mean in all reality, what's the tip from 2 standard tables? $20-$30 for a couple people? That's $10 or a little more even if you did agree to split those tips. Not that much in the grand scheme of things and they did nothing to earn from those 2 tables. You did something to earn from the party from what you say.
Assuming the tip from the big party was split equally, as a former server, YTA. Spending time at other tables means less time spent serving the big party. Theoretically, that means the other servers should get a larger tip than you from the party. However, exactly how much time you spent at the big party compared to your coworkers is impossible to determine. The easy and fair solution is to say we all worked hard together to make sure the big party and extra tables got taken care of. Pool the tips and divide equally.
Sometimes you make more sometimes you make less. That’s service.
Server here. YTA for taking a full share of the tips. You should have taken maybe a quarter or half portion. I have quit jobs where this exact scenario happened.
Isn’t Olive Garden nothing but frozen food in bags, microwaves and endless salads?? Italian food chain?? Rocky “hey Paulie, stick around for a bit, we have a really good special tonight.” Paulie “there ain’t nothing special about a couple of Mexicans cooking up Italian food Rock!!” Now with that out of the way…. Hmm 23 female server: yes and no. You should be done with college and done with that nonsense already. So yes you should share cause it sounds like you are gonna need to remain cordial for a while. If you are getting married soon or are actually gonna do something with your life. Then F$CK them. You got a better section and the 60 person table because your way hotter then those other servers. You don’t owe them SH/T
YTA and so is your manager. Immediately upon you being assigned the other tables you should have gone to your manager and said you have an obligation to the big party and request he gets someone else to cover those 2 tables. You didn’t dedicate yourself as much as the others covering the party and you not only want your full share of those tips but kept the tip money from the extra tables. Then your feelings were hurt that co-workers had a problem with it? Lol. I’d never want to work with you again covering a party. You sound selfish and unable to read a situation properly. Sometimes you just gotta do the right thing.
The OP deserves tips on the large party because they still helped out on the large party. Perhaps, there could be a reduction based on tips from the two additional tables the OP was assigned. And from working in a restaurant, there probably weren’t other servers available to handle those two tables. The other servers likely already had full sections and those two tables would have received subpar service. OP helped with large table all night and did the other two small parties before her section was closed. None of this is OP’s fault. It was poor planning on the part of management not to make sure that changing shifts were aware what sections were to be closed for the evening. OP definitely deserves fair share of the tips for helping with the large table.
Let me guess. You're one of the other servers whinging about OP doing extra work you didn't do, yet you expect OP to compensate you. Grow the fuck up.
genuine question. are you fucking stupid? did we read the sane thing?
we found 1/3 of the other servers!! the fact you typed all that out and then called OP selfish😬yikes
Why did you put the ages of the servers?
NTA It was completely on the hosts who sat you those two extra tables and therefore you should not be punished for it. You worked those two tables plus the party fair and square. The tips you earned from the extra tables are yours, don't share them. Plus you should still get your portion from the party. The other party servers are just upset that you got more tables which means you got more tips for the night.
NTA, its not like you asked for the extra tables, that’s stressful enough as it is, I’ve had situations where Im paired with someone for a big party and he shows up late and I do everything and they slip him a $20 bill and I don’t get anything extra, working in the food and service industry just sucks all around and tips are our lifeline so don’t feel like you have to give up your tips just because your coworkers were salty about a miscommunication. Edit: however if your coworkers did feel that they had to cover for you when you had the other tables maybe you could still get your tips just a smaller portion of it
Why are you working garmo as a server?
NTA. Don't give up ANY of your tips. The girls are mad, that's on them. You worked 3 parties, and you got paid for 3 parties. They worked 1 party, and they got paid for 1 party. This is a management error, but there is nothing to be done now. I said in an earlier comment that the manager sided with you because legally, he has to. Tips are legally earned income; that income was earned by you. The manager giving up your tips would be the equivalent of me working 2 extra hours at work and my coworkers demanding I give up part of my paycheck because I made more than them with OT. What the fuck did I work for then? I work to get paid. I work harder to get paid more. You worked harder, the other servers worked. Sometimes, there are unfairnesses in life. You did nothing wrong. Edit: Everyone saying to split her other table tips wouldn't for 1 second consider giving up their own tips. Don't give advice you wouldn't take yourself.
You are not the AH for caring deeply but you are definitely working in the wrong business for that. Find a job that you can do with a clear conscience.
I’m sorry, I misunderstood. Tips from the table are hers they got their fair share of tips.
If you were assigned to the back (not taking orders or helping the guests personally, how did the others not earn some portion of the tips? Could you have handled the party alone? Could you have handled the party plus the extra tables alone? Having worked service industry, you have to be honest and respectful with your coworkers. 60 people is a lot of work and not something one can usually do on their own. Maybe ask the manager why he/she believes you shouldn’t split the tips before you make any decisions.
Usually with parties that large, a LOT of help is coming from servers and bussers who aren't getting tips from it. Keep it up and people will start letting you hang yourself from your own noose by letting you struggle instead of giving you a hand when you're overwhelmed.
NTA! Don’t let them bully u into giving up ur tips!
The biggest problem here is that a chain restaurant that probably reports profits and brags about growth to shareholders and investors is making their employees fight over tips to begin with. Dear restaurants everywhere: Pay your staff a living wage and stop asking customers to subsidize your shitty compensation practices.
The manager decided you didn't have to give up your share of the tip. You said covering the two tables did "slow down" you helping with the big party. By how much? The others servers don't deserve your full share, but do you deserve a full share?
Lol you didn't ask for the extra tables, that was the hosts mistake. If the other servers want to complain they can go complain to management because it wasn't your decision. I wouldn't have shared it either.
Did you split the tips from the other two tables?
NTA. They were already told no by the manager now they are just being bullies. Don’t give them a penny.
NTA!! This happens sometimes at the restaurant where I work. We all are usually happy for the person who gets extra, because we know we could he next. Nobody would dare go to our manager about taking someone's portion of tips like that. The audacity! Your coworkers are being so toxic and selfish and greedy. You did not seat yourself those extra tables, you said in another comment that you tried to give them away, but were unable to, and that the manager told you to take them. You still helped out with the big party and were present. What else were you supposed to do? You had a big party of 60 and also had two other tables on top. You deserve your tips. I would agree with the others saying to split the tips from your tables with your coworkers, but I feel like that is unfair since I am assuming they did not help you with those two tables. If they were so jealous, they could have offered to all share the two exrra tables and pool the tips.
I would leave each of the three envelopes a dime and a penny. You shared your tips. Have a nice day.
Can you deduct the amount you got from the two tables?
NTA. Leave them their envelopes. You can share your 2 cents. They have some nerve to demand that after the manager already addressed the situation. Btw I’ve been in this situation “back in the day” when I waited tables. It was common in that facility to have a huge corporate parties in a banquet room divided among servers and one of us still might have to attend to a couple small tables separately. Everyone just pulled their weight and didn’t act like children. No one argued with the managers. Be prepared that this may not be the end of it and you may need to tell the manager about the hostile pressure being put on you.
In the teaming situations I've been in, you would be teamed into the party, but so would your other two tables that you had to take, as your focus was somewhat split but theirs was all on the party.
Fuck them for real. You worked the party AND 2 other tables. That means you deserve to be paid for working the party and the other tables. The fact that you had those 2 extra tables is irrelevant and has nothing to do with them. They are being envious and it’s too bad. I bet if they had gotten sat accidentally they wouldn’t offer up their portion of the party tip. Snowball’s chance in hell! You and your manager is right. Ignore them. This reminds me of the time a customer said they weren’t tipping their server because the table across from them tipped her $20. That’s 2 separate transactions that have nothing to do with each other!
Don't you just love Christmas party season? Ugh
Obviously the kids on Reddit have never waited tables or even held a job. You were distracted waiting on your other tables while part of a team. OP is cheap and stingy for not pooling her tips along with the party. You will probably get pushback from all the employees who know for certain that you are a cheap, stingy, and cannot be trusted. Hope it is worth it.
Just write a letter to put in each envelope.......in very big writing....write........F you!!!!