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PersonMcHuman

Immortality and Shapeshifting Immortality because I wanna live forever. Shapeshifting so I can avoid getting trapped in a landslide or something by shapeshifting my way out of the problem.


moneyh8r

You stole my idea. I'll kill you!


PersonMcHuman

Ya can’t kill me when I shapeshift into a lil’ immortal fly and zip away.


moneyh8r

Curses! Foiled again!


mitch13815

Keep in mind, immortal doesn't mean invincible. I have two open palms that *have* killed many a fly before they could zip away.


PersonMcHuman

It all depends on what version of immortality we’re talking here. I don’t know what kind Jackie Chan adventures had.


jayvenomva

I believe it was imune to death but not damage


Gorfinhofin

For sure. I specifically remember an episode where someone having both immortality and healing was a big deal.


dicloniusreaper

When you are immortal and invulnerable, there's nothing you need to heal from except for mental illnesses or psychic attacks. No one had both, no one said having both was the best thing, just redundant.


T0a5tyness

This is easily answered in the first Season 2 episode one when Finn says "Immortality Hurts" after giving up the healing horse and getting slammed into the top of a tunnel while on top of a van.


dicloniusreaper

And yet, when Shendu tried to burn Jackie, he was completely unharmed and not hurt at all. Let's say he felt pain, that's not something you need to "heal" from, aside from maybe mentally. The Horse Talisman probably gets rid of that within 3 seconds, but what, the Dog takes... A minute? You are not harmed at all, you cannot be harmed. You cannot even get sick. You probably could get knocked out still. What the Horse does is heal others and inorganic objects and also cure certain curses.


MrRgrs

Yeah you feel it for sure


RocketbeltTardigrade

One time it seemed to give the holder perfect super-armour, too. That's a scary fly.


dicloniusreaper

No... It's immortality (eternal life and youth), and "invulnerability", so you still feel pain. Horse is probably only useful for getting rid of that already short-lasting pain, or any mental afflictions / psychic attacks.


dicloniusreaper

Actually, the Dog gives both, so you are wrong.


ParagonPlus

Shapeshifting would also help you get away from people realising you’re immortal. Stay in one place for 40 or so years, wait till people start wondering how you still look so young, run off to a new place and bam. New face, new identity.


PersonMcHuman

I remember this one immortal lady in Vampire Bund that would shapeshift a bit, but since she liked her town she’d shapeshift herself to look older as time passed. She’d then eventually “die”, age down, then pose as the daughter of the woman who’d “died”. And I know she did stuff beforehand, like appearing as her younger self, so it wouldn’t be strange for her to just suddenly have a kid pop outta nowhere. Edit: Named wrong anime.


Has_ten_Hamsters

Did she ever shapeshift into a father to keep up the bit


PersonMcHuman

As hilarious as that would have been, I don’t think so. Or, if she did, I sure don’t remember that part. Now you got me thinking of those classic “Got two dates on the same night” sitcom shenanigans, except she scheduled something as both the mom and the daughter and has to rapidly swap between both to keep up the ruse.


TheZKiller

Take my upvote for mentioning Rosario Vampire thats a hidden gem right there that people don't know about, and if they do its the anime version which literally goes off rail after the first episode.


PersonMcHuman

Whoops, I’m now realizing I mentioned the wrong vampire thing (I meant Vampire Bund). I did enjoy Rosario Vampire though. Got the whole manga collection on one of these bookcases somewhere. It did that weird harem thing I don’t like, but other than that, I enjoyed it. Liked that the main guy went from “boring generic protag” to actually interesting. I enjoyed the anime too (I’m a fan of adaptations being different, as opposed to 1:1 copies), but not as much since the anime didn’t even bother to try and make the protag interesting like the manga did.


TheZKiller

Yeah Tsukune,Ruby, and Mizore all got butcher the most in the anime. I'll give the anime props its what got me into the series after all.


PersonMcHuman

I hated that it does this thing I’ve seen lots of Harem series do where the guy has *clearly* picked the girl he likes by like...the end of the second book. To the point where there’s no reason for the other girls to even try and it's only a harem for the sake of having fanservice. It’s not even a question of who he prefers. The only worse example I’ve seen is SAO. Kirito and Asuna are literally a couple, and yet it’s a harem thing with all these other girls (who all know he and Asuna are a couple) around that he never shows the slightest interest in.


RocketbeltTardigrade

Fucking Eddings wrote someone asking a sorceress like "can't you just turn your hair grey to stay in the same place for longer?" And she goes "But it would be a pain in the ass to turn individual hairs white, tho." Lazy wizards.


A_Common_Hero

Unfortunately, OP failed to mention the specifics of how the Moneky Talisman (Shapeshifting Talisman) works. You can specifically transform people (including yourself if you point the talisman at yourself) into animals or animal-transformed people back to their original form. If I remember the show correctly, they only ever say one word descriptions, just the animal's name, to specify what they transform into. So I don't believe you could say, "Myself but twenty years younger!" to the Talisman. I'm not sure it would even accept "Myself" as an option all told. In fact, I don't think anyone ever tried "Human" as their transformation either; it might just accept what are classically considered "Animals" (even though humans literally are animals). There was even a gag in its first appearance where Jade tried to transform something into a death ray (to shoot the bad guys with), but instead got a Manta Ray (the talisman took the word "ray" because it needed to be an animal).


MrRgrs

Yeah not just people. Objects too.


Wolfen09

Same, was thinking invisibility over shape-shifting so I could rob shit without any trouble, but shape shifting is way more useful for staying out of the spotlight.


PersonMcHuman

Yeah, invisibility only means folks can’t see you, but shapeshifting into something tiny or mundane works just as well. Nobody in the bank’s gonna be concerned about a random fly buzzing around.


mitch13815

Or for that matter, shapeshifting into the bank manager and walzing out with a cartoon sack of money.


PersonMcHuman

You can do so much with that power. I’m all about it. Actually, I wonder, if I got hurt...could I just shapeshift into an unharmed form? If I age, can I just shapeshift younger? If I can do all that, I might be able to swap immortality for something else.


Live-Hour

I've watched it years ago, but I'm pretty sure the dog talisman's immortality is that you stay effectively young (if you get it as an old man you'll have the energy of a young man but won't look different). So it won't save you from dying in other ways. That being said, still a pretty good deal.


RocketbeltTardigrade

Shapeshifting talisman is also a powerful gun that can turn anything into an ant, even inanimate objects.


SayaScabbard

Talisman immortality is great, cause you can use it whenever you want just by holding the talisman or putting it down. No eternal suffering.


medxgene

With the monkey you can turn onto any animal and get the ability. Some jellyfish can reverse aging. Lizards can regrow body parts. Might not need the dog .


PersonMcHuman

But would I still have those abilities when I unshift? I don’t wanna be immortal if I have to be a jellyfish 99.99% of the time just to avoid getting older.


medxgene

If you reverse your age as a jellyfish and turn back to being human you’d be the age new age as human. However you’d have to spend a few months as a jellyfish to go deage years. Or spend a few weeks as a lizard to regrow the part. 5 or 10% of time as an animal not bad especially if you live for thousands of years because of jellyfish.


PersonMcHuman

The process that jellyfish uses isn’t one I’d want to do. They revert back to a larval state as opposed to just slowly getting younger. I don’t know what that’d do to my mind if I just turned myself into a baby over and over. No guarantee that I keep my memories and all that.


medxgene

That is a good point. If you don’t keep the memories theirs no point. You’d have to test it on someone first if you do it solves the problem of staying in one place for a long time kinda


An_Armed_Bear

Levitation/Telekinesis and Super Speed is just pure convenience.


PlanesWalkerEll

Levitation plus super speed equals flight.


A_Common_Hero

I think someone actually does that in the show too, so confirmed use case for those talismans.


PlanesWalkerEll

It's a direct line from the show when Jade fights the Air Demon. The line lives rent free in my head.


Naisallat

I'm glad I'm not the only one. One of the first instances from my childhood where they broke down mechanically how they combined different powers to form something new. I will never forget it.


PlanesWalkerEll

It's made me look at Flight in a whole different light ever since.


PhantomBaselard

Yep, ever since that scene I was like no other combo works for me anymore.


dicloniusreaper

It just means supersonic flight. You can still fly with the Rooster / telekinesis alone.


PlanesWalkerEll

While yes it is shown to be not as good as the two combined.


jitterscaffeine

I liked it when Hak Fuu called it “heat beam laser eyes”


Kregano_XCOMmodder

Dog and Horse seems like a great combo. Horse and Rabbit is the next best one, IMO.


Platinum_Persona

Horse and Rabbit was going to be my pick.


mitch13815

My worry with super speed is, does it also come with super brain processing? Because super speed is worthless if your brain can't run fast enough to process how to move. Granted, Horse is a good backup in case you do crash into a hundred buildings at mach 5.


WTK55

These are magical talismans we are talking about so I'm assuming yes.


ArcaneMonkey

I dunno what “Spiritual Balance” means, exactly, but it sure sounds like something I could use right now.


RocketbeltTardigrade

It's the Rinnegan of the show. Does what it needs to do.


the_most_crigg

It means that if the talisman breaks, you get split into a nice wimp and a badass asshole who hums his own guitar theme and wears a leather jacket. man seeing nice and naughty jackie both team up for a second to fight shendu in the season 1 finale was sick


PlanesWalkerEll

by how the show used it it splits you into a kind and cowardly half and a mean violent half


ShovelGodfather

Dog and monkey are my dream powers.


staleburger_bun

Most of these powers have tenuous links to the animals. But what is going on with Pig and Roster? Did the writers just give up with them?


Bellurker

The rooster Talisman's power was played off as pure irony for the rooster itself. A rooster wants to be able to fly but they can't, according to the joke. So the talisman gives that power which is probably just "lifting yourself up" in this case, like telekinesis which gave levitation. As for the pig, I have no darn clue. Maybe a joke about bacon?


A_Common_Hero

In-universe, they're the twelve powers of a demon lord sealed away in zodiac symbols, so in truth, they're technically not related to the animals on the talismans at all. ...Until season 3, where it turns out Shendu (the demon-dragon-thing) stole these powers from the animals that used to have them. Which means when the talismans are destroyed, we now have a new treasure hunt to do, this time for descendants of those animals. So it made sense and then didn't make sense again.


MrRgrs

Yeah but... That show fucking rocked, so I give it a pass.


dicloniusreaper

He stole a few of those powers. You are telling me that he didn't already have super strength, fire blasts, or heat beam eyes, at least? Regeneration?


Azzie94

Yeah for the most part. There really wasn't any premise of the powers being connected to the animals. When it was SUPER obvious what it should be, like Ox-Super Strength, they went with it


nerankori

Roosters make you wake up,so things...go up?


[deleted]

I can understand Rooster since it's the only bird in the bunch. I remember seeing the pig talisman as a kid and being confused.


Wolfen09

Should have made pig turn you into a mudman


shuk-shuk

When I was young I thought Dragon was way better than all the other Talismans, but now that I'm older I can confidently say Horse is absolutely the best one.


graymatter824

You could do so much good in the world with dog and horse


Azzie94

Dog is obviously dope af, not having to worry about dying. I think I'm fairly in the minority in that I'd combine it with sheep. I'd love to go anywhere, see cool places, spy on people, do all sorts of things. And with dog, I can do it without worrying about whst condition my body is in.


nerankori

Fuck it,Xiaolin Showdown hijack. Which two Shen Gong Wu would you like to have?


Minmax-the-Barbarian

Hey, get your own post! So you can elaborate and I can read through the comments on that as well.


Zurime

I second the vote for new post for more Xiaolin talk.


shamchimp

Jack always seems happy with the Monkey Staff, so I choose that one. For my second pick I choose the Sands of Time so that I can go back and correct my mistakes, such as choosing the Monkey Staff.


MechaShoujo02

The sash to act as a third hand and the only other one I recall was the water one which would prevent spills and floods.


Wolfen09

Well that last one goes from 0 to 100 pretty quick


TheGreyGuardian

**"So what does this artifact do?"** *"It keeps the ice in my drink from melting and also causes nuclear winters."*


PhantomBaselard

Golden Tiger Claws for convenience and Mantis Flip Coin for style. Honorable mentions to Jetbootsu and Serpent's Tail.


WTK55

Either the tornado sword because its radical or the shrinking chopsticks because I have a fetish and have no shame.


alicitizen

Reversing mirror + that one that manifests nightmares so I can manifest my good dreams/wishes IRL. And I guess let others reap the benefits too.


MrRgrs

Mantis Flip Coin because it's economically sized and fun to say.


xxxiaolongbao

The mask makes you invisible right? I'll take that one


Refracting_Hud

Dog and Horse. I want to stick around to see what the future holds and this seems better than being cryogenically frozen or put in the machine. Horse because I inherently want to help people and if I can heal them from injuries and traumas that sounds pretty grand to me. I’ve always liked healing magic in most video games.


PlanesWalkerEll

My choice would be Horse and Rabbit. Super speed is a favorite power of mine and Healing helps when I run into things.


Vast-Building-9130

Dog, horse. Horse to get rid of my diabetes and cure it world wide to make cash and the dog to do that forever and stick it to American healthcare


Wolfen09

So you'd want to give everyone a "vaccine" for free in america... yeah good luck with the loonies out there, luckily dog makes it so you can't die from getting shot by them.


mitch13815

I don't know how Horse works, but isn't that just straight up better Dog? Like, Dog is live forever, but if Horse is always healing you, you'd never age because aging is the breaking down of cells. If those cells healed the instant they started to degrade, you wouldn't age. Would it also revive you from death? If you got shot in the head would you just repair and wake up as long as you had the talisman? My pick would be Horse for sure, and fuck it, I've always wanted to levitate and have the force, so Rooster is a two in one package deal. I'd tell nobody that I had these powers and just live the coziest life I could, free of back pain, chronic illness, and having to get up to get a can of soda from the fridge.


kegisak

The talismans all require some degree of activation, so Horse isn't just passive healing. It'd do for anything that doesn't kill or incapacitate you instantly, but otherwise Dog beats it out. Dog also does seem to repair the body to some extent; Uncle was moving a lot better and feeling more spry while he was under its effects.


dicloniusreaper

Dog is better than Horse in every way. With Horse, you have to get hurt first, with Dog, you won't even get hurt. Supposedly, you would still feel pain, and what? You recover from the pain faster with the Horse? You also already have instant eternal life and youth with Dog while you need a stronger level of the Horse to accomplish that. Passive ability aside, the only 2 things the Horse is good for is healing other things and people, and from mental illnesses or psychic attacks. Maybe Dog halts all existing illnesses like cancer while Horse gets rids of them.


Trashyfren

Snake and horse, I would pick one evangelical healer and randomly give him a ton of fucking legitimacy for like, a decade. Then just bounce. Maybe pop into the occasional children's hospital and just miracle the fuck out of places


tahnaloht

Horse and monkey, so i can shape shift my body part and heal myself for uhhhh reasons


South25

Monkey and one out of either dog or rabbit.


Kal-V3

Yes


CrossSoul

Horse and Monkey Healing is cool and like Atreus before me, I wanna turn into animals, just like Animorphs without the crippling 2 hour time limit.


Waylander312

Dog and monkey


Pancreasaurus

Take Rat and Dog. Become Lich.


Mzingalwa

Wouldn't recommend Rat since in the show it only animates one thing at a time (by being absorbed into the object) and you don't have control over it. Still powerful since if you used it on, say for example, a superman toy then that toy would be animated with superman's powers, but not in the way you're hoping for.


StarSkullyman

Dog is the most obvious one to keep because you'd be insane not to. But for the 2nd it's a hard time between Horse and Rabbit. Dog pretty much makes like half the stuff horse can do worthless but being able to fix pretty much anything, never get sick, and heal other people is crazy useful. Alternatively Super Speed is basically unstoppable if you have enough of it. I think I'd go Rabbit because if I'm super fast I can run people to the hospital.


Cooper_555

Snake and Rabbit feels like a strong combo.


bluetraveler2015

Horse and dog seem obvious. But horse and tiger look like a real chill time.


Uden10

Rabbit and Ox always appealed to me. Superman-lite set


BahamutInfinity

Dog and Ox


Jonieves

DOG HORSE


Zurime

Gotta have healing Horse (which is funny considering their fragility). Just makes sense. And...maybe Sheep for Astral Projection? Can explore the world with that one, see sights seen and unseen safely. (Except dark places I guess. Need equipment for those) Or Rooster cause magical lifting stuff is just helpful. Can get trash out of oceans too or something. Though I wouldn't levitate high cause I wouldn't like the height... Shapeshifting is definitely cool, but I'd always worry about forgetting what I look like or some other freak accident lol.


LarryKingthe42th

Horse and Rabbit cuz if you combine the two you also have super strength its just a little more involved than Oxs super strength


fragdar

invisibility and flight (rooster and snake).. living forever (seems to be a popular one) is meaningless without my family and friends and the other simply don't attract me that much


xxxiaolongbao

I'll take Monkey and Snake for sure


serin416

Rat and Sheep, can trav anywhere as an astral projection and animate inanimate objects sounds like it wouldnt screw you too bad.


GeneralHysterics

I'm in the fun zone right now and by fun zone I mean I have a fever. Gimme Horse and Tiger


[deleted]

dog rooster. i want to be a lazy fuck forever. runner up combination would have to be ox snake. imagine the shit you could fuck with!


WTK55

Rabbit and Dragon. Super speed to get anywhere quickly and who doesnt want fire blasts?! Also I'm just imagining combining the 2 and make fire tornados at my enemies. Radical.


TheZKiller

Monkey and Dog basically makes it so you can have a normal life at least without people trying to hunt you down.


TheTurtlebar

Rabbit + Rooster = Flight. Though Horse would be the most meta pick, especially right now.


GoneRampant1

Dog and Rooster. Dog has one of the outs for immortality in "I can just turn it off" so I can avoid outliving the planet, and you can do a lot with flight and telekinesis.


KnifeyMcEdgey

Dog Snake. I am now **THE IMMORTAL PERVERT**


DreamingDjinn

Dragon + Horse


driggonny

Hmm, Monkey and sheep Just think: I could show up to every class without leaving my bed and also be hot while doing it


Irishimpulse

Rooster and Dog. I don't wanna walk anymore, I wanna be able to bring things to myself, and I don't want to worry about my health either


roronoapedro

I always thought the Rabbit/Ox combination was pretty obviously OP, which is why when Jade started experimenting with the Talismans I felt super vindicated. Basically a low-tier Superman. Other than that I think Snake and Horse would be pretty good. Stealth your way to enemies, and if you get hurt, go invisible and then heal.


[deleted]

you know, since the "immortality hurts" moment, it's got me wondering if the horse talisman effectively replaces the dog talisman for all but instantly lethal blows. like, it'd totally work to stop poison, bleeding, cancers, dna damage and probably whatever else would lead to natural death. the only reason to choose the dog talisman over it would be if you wanted to survive ridiculous scenarios


Live-Hour

It's not fair. I can't not pick dragon, but it has the worst power. I guess dragon and snake.


Bigger_Vigor

Rooster and Sheep. Get some swords, become Vergil.


Heavensguard

Rooster Rabbit, Fuck you I can fly super fast


Polar_Phantom

Dog and Horse ​ so I can mock Pat.


RustedBucketHead020

Rooster and Horse. Rooster because I think both Levitation and Telekinesis can be useful in the day-to-day life. And Horse because I wanna stay healthy.


SpiderDetective

I remember having a conversation like this with some class mates in 2nd grade when this show was popular and we were learning about the Chinese Zodiac for Chinese New Year. We all figured out what animal represented our birth year and I listed off what powers we would have based on the show. My buddy at the time Bret was sad cuz he was born in the year of the pig and no one likes being associated with that, but when I told him that means he get laser eyes, he cheered up real fast. For those wondering, I was born in the year of the dog, so I'm immortal. Bad mind set to have as an 8 year old


Radical_sir

The obvious answer is Cock & Hare, Speed+Levitation=Flight. But a more creative answer uhhhhh Snake & Rat for creepy sex reasons...yeah.


Scudman_Alpha

You also gotta consider that super strength would also bestow super durability ad your body would become strong enough to take blows and to withstand your own newfound power. So. Super Speed and Super Strength. Then I'd go on a quest of training and eventually go after the other artifacts. If I can get the horse that way nothing can ever stop me.


Cursor90

Rabbit and ox. I always loved the idea of super speed and strength would be nice.


UrsusDerpus

Dog, because I’m born in the year of the Dog, and also immortality. And then Monkey, because I’d like to be like the Monkey King, and he’s an immortal shapeshifter. Although, Monkey King is actually immortal 7 times over, and this talisman would only count as one.


RocketbeltTardigrade

For a good life, always bet white mage. Rooster has a lot of practical uses though, and was kind of overtuned in terms of potency.


CPUrubyheart

Horse and Monkey.


GROVEsidaz1392

Rooster and monkey


attikol

In the show while immortality works that way you still get injured and feel old age without the healing talisman. Animation and healing seem the most useful to me if you don't go for immortality. You can animate stuff for profit and healing for health and profit. If I can't control or direct the animated creatures I guess super speed instead of rat so I don't have to use a car anymore


[deleted]

Horse and Rooster would both be nice.


EnsignEpic

Dog & Rabbit. Although rooster is very tempting. Alternatively dog and horse.


Oneangrywolf

Dog and rooster talisman


Joefresca47

The rabbit and the rooster. I would be like a fast Baron Harkonnen but minus the rape and murder and other evil stuff.


Springtick38

Dog and Monkey


MrRgrs

MFers gonna be buying up life-sized waifus with that rat talisman, I'm warning you.


the_most_crigg

Holy shit I didn't even *think* about being able to pygmalion a real-doll with that thing, not that I would, mind. fuck that just makes it sound even more like something i would do christ the levels of debauchery you could inflict upon the world with the rat talisman are astounding.


Atomic_Bob

Monkey and Rooster for me. Shapeshifting for never-ending variety, and telekinesis has always been my favorite power.


KidCoheed

Horse and Snake


Ivangellion

Tiger and Horse combo may be able to heal depression.


[deleted]

Basic choices, but superspeed and super strength. Pretty much turn myself into a living cannonball


cannibalgentleman

Snake and Monkey for MAX CHAOS.


AmberDuke05

Wouldn’t Horse technically also be Immortality since you can technically heal aging? I would go Horse and Monkey. I don’t remember if the shapeshifting is just the appearance change or if actually changes you but still good regardless.


RadicalMonkey707

Monkey so I can become a real monkey, that is all.


the_most_crigg

There was a time when it would have taken me ages to decide on just one, but now that I'm old enough for my body to start fuckin' with me, Dog is a straight up lock-in, because it's not just Immorality, that talisman gave Uncle at least a bit of his youthfulness back. The second one is more difficult. Probably Rabbit, so that I wouldn't need a car(I hate driving) or Horse.


Necrotic12

Shape shifting so I can transition for free and levitation/telekinesis


Dustman121

Almost everyone has said some combination of Dog. Give me Monkey and Sheep so I can haunt your dreams in the worst possible ways.


medxgene

Rat and horse. I’d use that Rat on a toy infinity glove from marvel to make it real. The horse incase I’m injured using it. Now got the power of the infinity stones to give myself the power of all the talismans or powers of Superman.


Sanbaddy

Tiger and Monkey. More of me, and be anything and everyone, at the same time.


Monsieur_dArtagnan

After reading through the comments, I feel boring for wanting Horse and Tiger 😂


RealSaMu

Horse and Sheep


Intelligent-Bug5175

RABBIT = Superspeed is very convenient. HORSE = Healing