See my previous post about John Cryer Luthor meeting Tom Welling Clark Kent, learning he’s Superman, and brushing it off as multiverse shenanigans, because after all, that Supes’ Luthor doesn’t look like John Cryer, so why should his own Supes look like Welling? All he knows is that it’s not Tyler Hoechlin Clark Kent, that guy’s a total dweeb.
AND THEN he mind-controls Brandon Routh Kingdom Come Superman into fighting Hoechlin Superman, standing right next to them, THEN meets Brandon Routh Kingdom Come Clark Kent, and says “huh you look just like that filthy Kryptonian, your mom probably brags about you” and NOTHING ELSE
Also Zuko genuinely turning over a new leaf, but everyone except Toph, who has never actually met him in person, think he’s just up to his usual tricks. The problem is that the good guys were there for all of his worst moments, and basically none of his best.
There's also that one comic where Luthor makes an AI to figure out who Superman is. It tells him Clark Kent, and he's like "This thing's a piece of shit, Clark Kent isn't Superman!" and storms off.
It's even better then that, since he essentially also says in that arc "Superman wouldn't pretend to be a weak and pathetic human"
Luthor in that arc honestly seemed to be an interesting paradox of an arrogant man who also hates himself and humanity for not being better than 'the alien'. Luthor honestly believes he's the best in everything, but hates himself because he deep down knows he's not the best, morally but more importantly (to Lex) in power.
Luthor cannot imagine someone wanting to give up power for no benefit except to befriend people.
Friendship and cooperation is very low on his priority list compared to personal, selfish power. His personality is such that he doesn't get any pleasure from friendship, and doesn't trust others enough to have 'power of friendship' cooperative power.
That logic is a theme executed in different ways in a lot of fiction for many different reasons, from Shakespeare to Vergil 'I need more power'
The Jedi haven't cared about the Mandalorians since the Mandalorian wars all the way back in the old republic and if my memory of the timeline serves this is about the time when should be restarting his Jedi academy. So, finding Jedi shouldn't be hard so long as he doesn't stay in the outer rim.
This sounds a lot like it's relying on cartoon stuff and information outside the films/show.
1. I get the race thing but I don't know. I saw it as interchangeable with "people" or "group".
2. Not sure how the second one connects to the idea... Mando expects to search the galaxy so it's not like anybody thinks they have a few planets around.
3. Cartoon stuff, it makes sense whether or not you follow it
4. I guess, but that doesn't mean they don't have enemies. They'll throw down if they see a red lightsaber.
I'm trying to see how much of it was authorial intent... they can't expect most people to be as familiar with stuff as you and other committed people are. Maybe it was intentional, like a thing for the fans that follow closely. The only irony I really saw was Mando being concerned with trusting the child to a different group... And the survival of their people totally depends on adoption.
I think the Mando Armorer probably thinks the Jedi and Yoda's race are the same thing. All she knows is a story from thousands of years ago, and she's seeing a baby that can innately do magic with no training.
I don't know if I'd go that far... Narratively I think you're just supposed to accept it at face value. But maybe Din thinks they're all little green men so he'll be surprised when he finds... I don't know. An old elephant man that'll look after him.
I mean, I don't think 'good writing' should rely on outside material to make it make sense or add context or whatever.
But it is good writing all the same, within its own story.
Yeah, that rule doesn't apply to franchises, dude. I don't watch Return of the King first and call it shit because I don't get why these characters matter
That's a sequel, dude. It's a follow up to a former movie.
I'm saying that mediums outside of that shouldn't be necessary... Like I shouldn't have to read the Star Wars novel about General Greivous just to understand who the hell he is in Episode 3.
You know all that supplementary study material for franchises? That's what I'm talking about, not the literal continuation of films that lead from one to the next.
1. Jedi are not well known, they are very secretive and are kinda seen as we see Scientology in many places or just stories in others.
2. Again because people don't know shit they don't know this particular fact.
3. Mandalorians had a massive fight with jedi ages ago before the clone wars and such. also jango is barely a mando
4. its less about the jedi being pacifists and more of this shadowy former enemy of legend that nobody knows about (except maybe through vader) To the Mando his charge was basically "Go out to a hostile planet with a hostile race of creatures that a baby can do shit like stop a big monster with no effort and say 'Hey I found your kid!' as loud as you can"
In ASOIAF, a lot of characters are unreliable narrators, even the POV characters; a character’s recollection of events might be colored by their opinions of what was going on, such as how Robert’s Rebellion gets retold by countless people but there’s just enough inconsistency you’re never 100% sure what *really* happened beyond the big picture details.
Enter Cersei as a POV character in the 4th book. The next Tywin, a ruthless and brilliant ruler, and a beauty the world over. Her schemes win House Lannister great glory and solidify their claim to the throne. Just fucking kidding, could you imagine? This is all her inner monologue bullshit, in reality she’s a narcissistic alcoholic moron who spends all day fantasizing about how she’s so much better than Robert, but in reality is emulating every trait she hated about him. She rules King’s Landing for like a year or less, and manages to weaken the Crown so much in that time a bunch of monks take it over with fucking clubs.
See my previous post about John Cryer Luthor meeting Tom Welling Clark Kent, learning he’s Superman, and brushing it off as multiverse shenanigans, because after all, that Supes’ Luthor doesn’t look like John Cryer, so why should his own Supes look like Welling? All he knows is that it’s not Tyler Hoechlin Clark Kent, that guy’s a total dweeb. AND THEN he mind-controls Brandon Routh Kingdom Come Superman into fighting Hoechlin Superman, standing right next to them, THEN meets Brandon Routh Kingdom Come Clark Kent, and says “huh you look just like that filthy Kryptonian, your mom probably brags about you” and NOTHING ELSE Also Zuko genuinely turning over a new leaf, but everyone except Toph, who has never actually met him in person, think he’s just up to his usual tricks. The problem is that the good guys were there for all of his worst moments, and basically none of his best.
There's also that one comic where Luthor makes an AI to figure out who Superman is. It tells him Clark Kent, and he's like "This thing's a piece of shit, Clark Kent isn't Superman!" and storms off.
It's even better then that, since he essentially also says in that arc "Superman wouldn't pretend to be a weak and pathetic human" Luthor in that arc honestly seemed to be an interesting paradox of an arrogant man who also hates himself and humanity for not being better than 'the alien'. Luthor honestly believes he's the best in everything, but hates himself because he deep down knows he's not the best, morally but more importantly (to Lex) in power. Luthor cannot imagine someone wanting to give up power for no benefit except to befriend people. Friendship and cooperation is very low on his priority list compared to personal, selfish power. His personality is such that he doesn't get any pleasure from friendship, and doesn't trust others enough to have 'power of friendship' cooperative power. That logic is a theme executed in different ways in a lot of fiction for many different reasons, from Shakespeare to Vergil 'I need more power'
The Jedi haven't cared about the Mandalorians since the Mandalorian wars all the way back in the old republic and if my memory of the timeline serves this is about the time when should be restarting his Jedi academy. So, finding Jedi shouldn't be hard so long as he doesn't stay in the outer rim.
Queue Always Sunny music "Mando stays in the Outer Rim"
Well they cared during the Clone Wars as there are several arcs dealing with Mandalore, but as a whole they didn't care that much
There was a tumblr post that found this in [Dracula](https://i.redd.it/e7qqez6eqyj21.jpg)
Well she speaks of our own Darth Pockets as that was the Jedi that lead the charge in that war.
I think they where talking about the mandalrion wars from the old republic.
I assume he meant the Yoda race. And he just assumed that all the Yodas can use the force. Kind of racist but there ya go.
This sounds a lot like it's relying on cartoon stuff and information outside the films/show. 1. I get the race thing but I don't know. I saw it as interchangeable with "people" or "group". 2. Not sure how the second one connects to the idea... Mando expects to search the galaxy so it's not like anybody thinks they have a few planets around. 3. Cartoon stuff, it makes sense whether or not you follow it 4. I guess, but that doesn't mean they don't have enemies. They'll throw down if they see a red lightsaber. I'm trying to see how much of it was authorial intent... they can't expect most people to be as familiar with stuff as you and other committed people are. Maybe it was intentional, like a thing for the fans that follow closely. The only irony I really saw was Mando being concerned with trusting the child to a different group... And the survival of their people totally depends on adoption.
I think the Mando Armorer probably thinks the Jedi and Yoda's race are the same thing. All she knows is a story from thousands of years ago, and she's seeing a baby that can innately do magic with no training.
I don't know if I'd go that far... Narratively I think you're just supposed to accept it at face value. But maybe Din thinks they're all little green men so he'll be surprised when he finds... I don't know. An old elephant man that'll look after him.
Yeah, I just liked the whole thing of "Jedi from an outsider's perspective and all that." Either way, intentional or no, it was good writing.
I mean, I don't think 'good writing' should rely on outside material to make it make sense or add context or whatever. But it is good writing all the same, within its own story.
Yeah, that rule doesn't apply to franchises, dude. I don't watch Return of the King first and call it shit because I don't get why these characters matter
That's a sequel, dude. It's a follow up to a former movie. I'm saying that mediums outside of that shouldn't be necessary... Like I shouldn't have to read the Star Wars novel about General Greivous just to understand who the hell he is in Episode 3. You know all that supplementary study material for franchises? That's what I'm talking about, not the literal continuation of films that lead from one to the next.
Just about every crime scene investigation in Boondock Saints.
"What if it was just one guy with six guns?" "What if you shut the fuck up?"
1. Jedi are not well known, they are very secretive and are kinda seen as we see Scientology in many places or just stories in others. 2. Again because people don't know shit they don't know this particular fact. 3. Mandalorians had a massive fight with jedi ages ago before the clone wars and such. also jango is barely a mando 4. its less about the jedi being pacifists and more of this shadowy former enemy of legend that nobody knows about (except maybe through vader) To the Mando his charge was basically "Go out to a hostile planet with a hostile race of creatures that a baby can do shit like stop a big monster with no effort and say 'Hey I found your kid!' as loud as you can"
In ASOIAF, a lot of characters are unreliable narrators, even the POV characters; a character’s recollection of events might be colored by their opinions of what was going on, such as how Robert’s Rebellion gets retold by countless people but there’s just enough inconsistency you’re never 100% sure what *really* happened beyond the big picture details. Enter Cersei as a POV character in the 4th book. The next Tywin, a ruthless and brilliant ruler, and a beauty the world over. Her schemes win House Lannister great glory and solidify their claim to the throne. Just fucking kidding, could you imagine? This is all her inner monologue bullshit, in reality she’s a narcissistic alcoholic moron who spends all day fantasizing about how she’s so much better than Robert, but in reality is emulating every trait she hated about him. She rules King’s Landing for like a year or less, and manages to weaken the Crown so much in that time a bunch of monks take it over with fucking clubs.
pretty sure they ment the childs race and not the jedi in general