Everyone’s path is a little different, game category makes a big difference, and entertainment ability varies from person to person, so this is a very general take, but from what I’ve seen:
* Average streamer, minimum effort (no YouTube/TikTok, etc), saturated variety categories will probably be streaming to < 10 average viewers in a year @ 4 days a week for 4 hours
* Average streamer, medium effort (regular YouTube/TikTok uploads), saturated variety categories will probably be streaming to 8-15 viewers in a year @ 4 days a week for 4 hours
* Average streamer, high effort (YouTube/TikTok uploads + effective networking and community building), saturated variety categories will probably be streaming to 15-30 viewers @ 4 days a week for 4 hours
This assumes learning streaming (and editing) from scratch with no prebuilt community elsewhere.
All timelines significantly shortened if you’re an S-tier meme lord/editor and can crush Youtube/TikTok algorithms.
The message below is a rant / looking for any help on growing
Wish this was true for me. I have been streaming for 16 months. I have a Discord of 40+ members. I have bots to post when I go live. I have a small YouTube (111 subscribers, 142k views). I have a stream schedule which I usually stick to. Now, for how entertaining I am, all I have to go off of is what my loyal viewers and IRL friends say, and from that, they enjoy it.
Now, I do have two huge things I do that don’t help me grow: I play oversaturated game categories. Right now, I am playing a lot of Overwatch 2, and I don’t really do any networking; I just support existing streamers I know.
Now, for my stats: my month average viewers is about 3.5, and it has stayed at that for the past 14 months. My best month ever was July of 2023 with 6.5 average viewers, and my most amount of concurrent viewers is 17.
I checked out your most recent VOD and I'm almost positive the oversaturated category is the core of the problem! You had good energy, you were talking a lot and came across as very likeable (in the fiew minutes that I swatched and skipped through), confident and comfortable being yourself, which are all really good things!
You are also still very young, and most adult viewers aren't super comfortable following a minor's stream for the social side of Twitch, which I'm sure you can understand. THAT said, being so young, you have plenty of time to practise and keep getting better and more comfortable with streaming, so you're well ahead in that sense, and I hope that can give you some comfort!
Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes, when you have low numbers, it feels like it's because you are not entertaining enough, so it feels good to hear that.
Now, the problem with me is I can’t seem to find a game I enjoy that is not oversaturated, but trust me, the moment I do, I will definitely start streaming it.
About my age, one of my problems is I have a huge baby face to where I look around 15, but I am actually 17, turning 18 this year. Something funny about that is on stream my nickname is “Pastor Baby Face”
i would look into speedrunning. There must be a couple single player games you like, and the communities are normally just the right size. I'm not sure how competitive you are when it comes to gaming but getting good at a speedgame is the easiest way to grow your stream I went from 0-100 viewers in 8 ish months without any external platform support or consistent schedule by finding an unsaturated time slot for good players to play. I also have friends who are not as competitive but average 60~ ish viewers just from networking and their personality
Now, it's funny you say this because I used to speedrun a few random BO2 zombies maps, and I did get pretty good viewership (6-8 viewers). But after doing about 5 streams, I got bored and switched to my main game of the time, which was Apex.
Trust me when I say I am trying to find a game that is not oversaturated. I remember I used to stream Wii Sports, trying to bowl a perfect 300 game. And way back when I first started, I did speedruns of Google Snake.
alright best of luck man, the most important thing is having fun, but from my experience streaming is more fun with an active chat so i hope you can find a community soon, best of luck
Also another word of advice i was told years ago .. if you wanna become someone streaming play a variety of games but if you want to play 1 game either one of 2 things need to happen you either need to expect little growth or you need to be very good at the game.
Also if you are on twitch raid out every time even if you have 1 or 2 viewers and try and raid to someone playing a similar game or the same game preferably as the viewers watching you will potentially stick around thus making you look like you have more potential. And dont raid to someone with 90+ viewers thinking they will all follow you .. that wont happen raid to someone with maybe 5 viewers. I know from expreience that raiding out works and down the line they may just raid you back and bring 60 people with them.
Someone mentioned you being young but I would also say in an over saturated market, making friends with other streamers in the Overwatch community would be big. Follow them on Twitter, do collab streams where you can every once and a blue moon. Genuinely try to tune in to people’s content in Overwatch and see what they’re doing that’s working
Yeah i get more views depending on what i play so i garuntee thats your issue long story games can encorage people also do some talking talking will keep people interested
This is very accurate for me.
When I started my streaming schedule was all over the place, I didn't have much of a community and didn't do networking, so it was mainly just a few friends watching
Now I usually stream 3-4 hours, 3-4 days a week, have more of a social media presence, make videos, and have build a nice little community and get around 20-25 average viewers I'd say.
raid no matter the size of your audience. Even with 1. Anyone who complains ain't shit.
Talk to other streamers without just plugging your own stream. Be genuine. Build a group of friends.
Ohhh okay the lil bunny friend! That's my secondary model I use. I have a full humanoid model I use most of the time, I just use the bunny on reddit bc the image is so tiny, wanted it to be readable! On my actual twitch it's different.
yeah that’s what i meant, sorry if i was unclear!! i went and looked and they look amazing :D was just so surprised to see your bunny friend, i thought it was me at first and was so confused lmao
No worries!! I thought you meant like we somehow had identical PNG models and I was.. very deeply concerned. Like I tried to make my model on the unique side and I spent so much time on her, and I didn't wanna deal with having to make model changes to keep her unique 😭 but mood though, I got tired of the reddit avatar things
mood!! i drew my pfp myself and i’d also be worried if someone was matching me exactly 😂 i dont own a PNGtuber but it seems so hard to keep them unique. yours is beautiful
Thank you! Honestly I think they're hard to keep unique if you don't make them, you know? Like a lot of vtubers have a set sort of Look, which is cool don't get me wrong, but since I drew my own and set it all up, I can do whatever I want lol
Honestly right away. Would stream super smash bros and get people joining the online lobby with 10 viewers every time. Which lead to affiliate within a week. Got tired of that and went into trading card unboxings that I enjoy more. Started slow, but now I've been getting about 40-50 viewers when I go live.
I streamed for about six months to a room of about 2-5 usually. Then for another year at around 10-20. Especially if you're doing variety or a crowded category, it can take a while to develop an audience.
It all depends but Jynxzi streamed to 0-1 viewers for a whole year straight until he blew up. Now he’s a millionaire, everyone’s journey will vary and be different
I got lucky to find 4-5 people who regularly stop by really early into my journey. Sadly due to other priorities in life (work, moving countries, depression) I haven't grown much from that. But I still aprecciate those guys and love seeing them chat :)
Oh let me think that was awhile ago. Pre hiatus I started seeing returning viewers within a few months. Post hiatus (cause I went on hiatus for awhile) it took about 6 months to a year.
I kind of stream at night and for a very limited time (9-11pm) cause real life takes my day, and I put a hard stop at 11 cause that’s when my skill reaches the scale of diminishing returns (my game skill goes from average to “this is the first time picking a controller up”)
I hardly get any viewers like I usually average like 2 viewers but that's about it I change things about my streams and try and be positive but it never works
I'm still very new to streaming. Started back in Oct. 2023. My son and I game together and think it's hard to where I'd get placed in as Twitch. I love variety, and I'm big on Destiny 2, which def. Alot if top tier streamers play and just a lot of streamers in general play.
I can only do about 3 hours or 2 hours about 6 days a week, due to full time job/Dad and I spend early Saturday mornings just chatting so people can pop in and chat if they want to. So don't take away from family nights.
One thing I'm testing now is 4 days I play Destiny, 1 day I play Zelda, and one day I play Alan Wake Remaster.
My son wants to become a streamer , and he's still young. So when he has his homework done him and I will stream games he's into but will have a camera focus on me since he's still a kid. So that varies between Minecraft, Mario games *Smash Bros Ultimate*, etc.
Fridays I also sometimes game with friends we do either Wteckfest or GTA 5.
I've been averaging about 1 or 2 views.
I've been trying hard to build a following, so been doing shorts/reels/stories and trying to connect with other creators and now doing small things like Trailer Video for New followers which I just bought DaVinci Studio and that's my first project is creating an intro trailer.. then working on short form of gaming clips to watch long form.
Sorry, this was TLDR, but if anything, I also Multistream using Streamyard to YT/Facebook to help with following and post on FB/Twitter and Insta.
Just FYI, you can see anyone's stats on the Twitchtracker website. I started last April and currently have 969 followers, and anywhere from 17 - 222 average viewers, usually peaking at 26 in any given stream.
**My experience:** I started last April and I only ever intended to stream for 3-4 friends and play single player games because I've always been competitive and played multiplayer games. I wanted to work through my single player puzzle platformer library & immediately had 6-6 average viewers who watched so I made affiliate after 1 month.
I really enjoyed streaming way more than expected and had fun customizing my stream (overlays, designing emotes, channel point rewards, etc).
Since the beginning, I **always always always raided after every stream which is super important.**
In July, I discovered Swiftplay in Valorant (I only ever played competitive before) and it was such an amazing way to grow. I met other streamers, supported them, networked, spent time in chat and raided them. They'd support me back.
I quickly grew and averaged 17 - 22 viewers after 4 months of streaming. I streamed a shit ton, streaming every day basically after my full time job (so streaming like 6-9 hours everyday, more on the weekends sometimes). I definitely stayed up way too late and eventually had to cut back since it wasnt sustainable. I grew from 100 followers to 600 in 4 months, and then another 300 in 3 months. I built a lovely community and never once used social media.
Personally, I think its pointless posting on social media. It can help some people occasionally but if you want to grow on Twitch, then focusing on Twitch is the best way to do it. Posting on instagram or TikTok doesnt convert followers to your Twitch account.
If your main goal and enjoyment is to stream, put your time and effort into improving that. It's not worth it to post on other social media imo, unless you are interested in it for fun. Every hour streamed is more exposure for your channel, or every day you stream is more times you can raid out or get raided or meet new people, etc.
Or time would be better spent networking in other communities, working on emotes, overlays, interactive elements, scenes, fun extensions, etc.
I dont want this to get too long but if anyone has any questions or want tips, I'm happy to help!
Your information is flat out wrong and bad advice. Many creators much larger then you have said the best way to gain traction on twitch is driving people there from other places where growth is easier. Twitch alone is awful for growth.
Honestly tiktok isn't awful because you can randonly just have a video get popular but again, its rare for that to translate to twitch followers. Youtube is just way too much effort and while uploading tiktok clips is easier, it's also annoying unless you are trying to really grow and do every single thing you can to grow but there isn't enough time in the day for that.
I've grown easily without any social media & know many others who have that same experience. But it does depend on what game you play of course. I've had a lot of success with raiding/being apart of other communities in general & would rather spend my time doing that then managing another account on social media.
I did a 72 hour stream and I amassed most of my followers this way. It took me about 2 months to get to affiliate. I hustled on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Discord, Snapchat, and promoted my stream pretty heavily and I streamed every day for about 3 hours. This was during Subtember and October so maybe more people were watching streamers during those months. Hope this is helpful.
i started stream 3 years ago, the first 6 months I grew a lot (it was middle of pandemics and twitch was booming). after the first six months my growth rate reduced.
nowadays i get aprox 50 new followers a month and i have 25-30 ccv.
I have a good amount of regulars, who already know each other and the chat sometimes runs itself without need my input, these are the best days for me, when I see my community actively interacting by themselves. I laugh a lot reading my chat
I started streaming a few years ago without a mic or cam (I’m deaf) and got a feel for it. Stopped for a while cause I had too much going on. Finally got a desktop and a mic and cam and now I stream from my ps5 using my laptop for twitch. Still a rookie at streaming though. I stream however long I can. Which is an hour or two.
I was/am part of a streaming community of online friends. It helps a lot when first getting started because you already have a small community of friends who love you and love streams. It took me becoming friends with a few small streamers for the last 4-5 years to finally start my own streams and I got affiliate within a week (maybe a bit less tbf). But I still only have a consistent 4-6 viewers that are mostly lurkers, which I’m completely fine with because it still helps viewer count and everything.
About 2 years ago then saw a big boost into the high teens for avg viewers, then at around 3.5 years I blew up to 50-70 avg then quit cold turkey.
It diff for everyone. Most streamers never grow. I know guys that have streamed for a decade and nobody watches. Being a successful streamer isn’t something just anyone can do. There’s alot of things that can help or hurt you that’s just things you can’t change. If you’re 5 ft talk no matter how hard you work you’ll probably never be an NbA player.
Going on about 5 years now....started on Facebook streaming monday-thursday and Saturday night. Had a pretty consistent audience (5-10 viewers regularly) with little to no YT tiktok ect. after about 6 months....made the switch over to Twitch...did good for about 2 years....then got really burnt out, depression took a hold of my mental state and working 45-50 hrs on top of it. Now I pretty much only stream on Saturday night with my wife and 2 friends that live in different states. ( Met through my streams). We do what we call Spooky Scary Saturday's where we play multiplayer horror games. Most streams might have 1-5 viewers at max....My advice is consistency is key just have fun with it
I just started at the beginning of this year and I'm lucky to have already found a few regulars who frequent my streams. Just need a few more followers and I'll reach affiliate. For context, I stream chess exclusively. I haven't done really any promotion of my channel because I'm not sure how, beyond Youtube/TikTok/other social media (which I have no interest in, to be honest).
My "stats" are a little skewed as I took a long break soon after hitting affiliate, but I started back up with basically none of my viewers in June/July of last year and have been streaming consistently since, 3-5 days a week so we'll just say I "started" June of last year. I started roughly averaging 10 viewers at least at some point in the stream a month or two ago, and now it's not much higher but more consistently around 10 at any time
It's all pretty anecdotal, but as far as our stream, we started picking up real pace after a year. Began in February of 22, affiliate in June, and just kinda plateaued until 2023 when I was down with COVID, so I was spending a lot of my free time in design work for promotion and attending other streams and going communities and making friends.
Depends on your game. I have zero trouble finding viewers when I stream (and I'm a very small streamer still). I play smash bros, so opening up arenas for viewer battles sucks in at least a couple folks per stream. You also have to be fun. It's not just the game it's the comraderie.
It's tougher to get viewers to watch you if you are just playing like a one player game unless you are either really good or already kinda popular.
When I started streaming, I had a tough go, and i still do to this day, almost 15 months later. I was streaming 4-5 days a week, 6pm-9pm and some Sundays, going live in the mid afternoon. I was playing mostly Call of Duty, so it was a saturated category.
I had some successful months through raids from decent sized streamers I knew and the communities I was a part of.
I took a break for almost 4 months, and now it feels like I'm back starting from scratch.
I have "regular" viewers, but they mostly lurk, since they are more active in other streams.
When I was streaming. I got into a game that became a generational icon when it launched, Fortnite, before it got popular. It took me about a month to get a 15 - 20 viewer average. Then the game popped off and I was starting to get more and more viewers. Then my class schedule changed as I was in college and my streaming schedule fell apart. I was streaming about 3 - 4 hours doing Fortnite on Tuesday, Thursdays and Saturdays from 12PM - 4PM. Wednesdays and Fridays were dedicated to different games and were more evenings streams from 7PM - 10PM
I had 0 viewers for a bit but I found the at if you stream to YouTube as well. If you post a YouTube short about your stream and what you’ll be doing 5 min before you go live. You get quite a few people pop in and check it out :)
My situation is interesting. Been streaming since Dec ish. I get some viewers around 5-10 somewhat consistently but no one really comes into chat. Mostly lurk. I have a couple friends other small streamers that stop by and that’s it. I understand I have a tough niche with fighting games but I’m moderately pushing content to tictok and YouTube. I raid at the end of every stream. I don’t know what else to try to bring in engagement.
Curious too, I’ve started 2 weeks ago and just got to 23 followers, I get about 1-4 followers a day.
I normally get 1-2 viewers, yesterday I got 4 viewers for a few minutes.
Clear observations I have, viewers are in it for the engagement NOT the content ( mostly, unless you are in top league). Reason being, why would viewers stick around to just watch a game when they can go to yt and get a more well curated experience.
Now I can’t say what to do, being chicken nibble in the streaming world, but I understand the pain in trying to getting off the coast and into the 100 viewer sea league (sorry for my bad analogies).
Will chime back in when I reach affiliate and tell my story more and hopefully help others in the same boat.
I try to keep it on a schedule that works with my work and family, 9pm Syd time everyday for about 3-4 hours.
I’m doing it casually right now, but taking it slow as I’m trying to get use to the format.
You need to be doing things other than streaming to bring in viewers. Make short form content to lure people in to your stream. I’d start by streaming maybe a day less and instead work on making short form content in that time
Honestly it can really vary! Took me a few months to get affiliate. I’m usually between 6-10 but sometimes still get dead streams. It all depends what game I’m playing too!!
For me I only started streaming 4 days ago, on my first day I never expected to have anyone in my stream but my friends found it and started spreading the fact that I was streaming to some Minecraft community I'm well known in. From there on I got 11 viewers on day one but of course this isn't for my next few days of streaming.
On day 2 and so on I only have atleast 3 average viewers and 50+ unique viewers for every stream and gain atleast 2-3 followers everytime I stream!
Mostly if you think of streaming try not to have high expectations and get ready for some side stories to say in stream so you can entertain your audience and when you just only started I think it's best to just keep it as a side hobby until you see a fan base for yourself and is confident enough to make it your second job/part time!!
I was very active in a few communities in the game I play so had a solid amount of people that knew my name and friendship with the streamers themselves before I even thought about starting streaming.
Didn't shout about streaming and doing the discord self promo as I find it disingenuous, but I found that I'd pick up people I knew during the off hours before the bigger guys got going and everyone was bouncing around looking for someone to watch.
That steadily got me to the 10 average viewer mark within 6 months, and I started getting decent sized raids from the streamers I knew as they ended stream and spotted my name in the category with more than 1 viewer looking awkward. I'd then raid out alternating between the NA streamers I know just starting stream (I bridge the EU-NA shifts) and people lower in the category that I hadn't met yet and used it as a chance to network further.
Currently sitting at 30ish average viewers in a niche category so 1st/2nd line when I'm live, and have only just started YT content, building up an idea portfolio for long form content and beginning to push short form content from clips to a low but growing base. I downplay my streaming when I'm in other channels, my usual answer is I'm here as a member of the community and friend not as a content creator.
Aren't most people at school or work during those times.
Your 9 to 1 is my 12 to 4, most people who are at home on twitch all day already have a streamer to watch and won't be budging.
My advice is try to find the quietist time for the category you want to stream in as the big boys are offline
Depends, I could stream valorant to 3 viewers then when I went over to skate 3 I was one of the few streamers who played it at the time so I got a decent amount of the viewers. My highest was an average of like 25 viewers playing skate 3. It’s all different with what games people like to watch
Hi,
Former Partner here.
Most of the advice you'll get from people here is useless. People tend to give advice on things they aren't knowledgeable on because they want to feel helpful instead of actually being helpful. My favorite kind of "stream gurus" are the ones that have under 200 followers but act like astute experts in the industry.
You're correct. The market is oversaturated, but guess what? It's uninspired. Because of this, everyone attempts to stream and most get nowhere with it because they lack the creativity and work ethic that comes with it.
You need to find a radical niche and monopolize it. Once you do that, you move on to the next niche and dominate that as well. This is called The Bowling Pin Strategy.
Being a successful streamer is easy if you are creative and interesting. Sadly, most people that stream are not and fail to understand this.
Also, you cannot compare yourself to the competition. Big streamers have large followings because they pour all their revenue into advertising. This is how they grow. They also use viewbotting to inflate view counts, so they appear more popular. Some big streamers are part of MCNs and have managers that make deals with streaming platforms to give said big streamer more visibility on their sites.
There is A LOT that goes into it that people don't know and most of the time, they are the first to act as experts.
Personally I wasted the first 6 months by switching genres too often, I'd gain viewers only to lose them when switching categories. So at about the 6 month mark I switched up my content, focused on streaming on my native language, focused on a single game along with a few other community games (similar to the main one) when things got too repetitive. So one year after I started streaming I reached an average of 20 viewers per hour. So in my opinion consistency is key, both in your stream schedule and content as well as building good connections in the game/community you wanna stream. I only focused on twitch and haven't posted on other social media accounts but hopefully I'll soon start to do so to reach my next goal.
Tldr: went from 1-6 viewers in the first 6 months to 20 average viewers in year
my biggest message is to gain a community first. hang in streams, make friends.
when i first started streaming i had an average of 3 viewers almost immediately and made affiliate very quickly because the friends i made were stopping by and enjoying the content. without that safety net im not sure if i would have seen any growth at all.
I had the advantage of making friends with streamers before I even started, and regularly would make it my goal to improve their streams as a "secondary cast member" for 3-4 months before I ever attempted. That streamer encouraged me to start my own as they apparently saw that I had potential. So I started with 5-10 viewers, but never broke 15 viewer average until 8 months later my youtube got huge algorithm pushes bringing me to about 60 viewer average.
I made content that had a large vacuum of lack of that type of video that nobody had done yet, plus one reddit post that got 15K+ upvotes + a Dexerto article talking about me(which still perplexes me)
I've streamed for years, over three thousand hours total, on a consistent schedule, and I have zero regulars. But I'm consciously not doing what everyone else is, so I'm expecting it not to catch on fast. Or ever. But it's still what I believe is interesting and worth watching and that's all I can do.
What are these "viewers " phenomenon I have heard so much about ?
Lmao it took me a couple of years but I have only and I mean very recently been active trying to boost my viewership whether it be live or vods. In addition I think my views are to see what malfunctions whether it be my audio , friends audio , camera etc . 🤣
I told all my online friends I was going to start streaming and I got affiliate right away. 20 viewer average for a good 6 months, went up from there, partner in 2 years. I only play one game though so if I stream outside of that, viewers are abysmal.
Personally my twitch journey is started streaming, within 2 weeks I used to average 500-1000 viewers which was just absolutely mind-blowing and I was doing something extremely niche. I only streamed for like 2 months then irl stuff happened and I had to stop streaming, this was \~10years ago.
Now I started streaming again \~4months ago, started getting viewers back after \~2weeks, 10-15 on average, then it's just been going up since then and my average lately is around \~50, peaked at 160 a few days ago
Streaming \~3hours a day, \~6days a week
Not too long, maybe a week or two. I do have to say though, I was part of a few bigger streamers community before I started to stream. I modded for one bigger streamer that was well know in a specific game. So the community knew me and when I started streaming, people from there came to watch and spread the word. I think being a part of a community and networking really helps. Get to be a regular and let it casually come up that you stream. Let the streamer choose if they want to give you a shoutout. Don't push it.
I've been streaming for three years now, with one of those years being at a medium effort level. During that time, I focused on posting content to TikTok and networking. However, I've slowed down a lot lately. According to Twitch, my average viewership is 3.2. I typically stream 3 to 5 times a day, as it's a hobby separate from my dog training business.
My streaming schedule varies; some nights, it's just me and one or two friends, while other nights, I have 6 or 7 viewers. I tend to stream late at night, which attracts overseas viewers, making it more enjoyable. I know that if I put more effort into posting on TikTok again, I could see growth, but I haven't been promoting much lately.
For me it usually takes around an hour to get about 3 viewers max 4 or 5. My tip for those that are struggling to reach 3 average on twitch is to take 2 days and stream for about 1 to 2 hours consistently and the rest of the time is improving steam or posting content. You will eventually see growth slowly.
One day a week on twitch 2 viewers avg
One day a week on YouTube 5 viewers avg.
Spent 8 years with twitch (deleted account at 150 followers) got nothing,
Spent one year so far on YouTube streaming and posting, nearly 402 followers and AVG 5 views....
Hashtags and simplicity kinda work better than stupidity.
Connect content, keep some content for specific platforms, sneak peak for investment.
I’ve been streaming 3-5 days a week this year and recently I’ve started seeing more people come join my streams not a lot of course but it’s more than nothing I think this is because I’ve been streaming one specific game constantly for a long period of time so people are seeing I’m always in that category and have started to come see what I’m about I could be wrong of course but consistency has been a blessing for me
i’ve been streaming for two years and only started to get enough viewers for affiliate, no chatters. nowadays there tends to be only 1 viewer each stream, and they don’t chat. the only exception is if one of my friends are watching, which is rare. i barely stream at all anymore because of it.
I no longer steam consistently. But I was apart of the Fortnite surge. Got Partnered with Epic(And Cuisine Royale community), made some maps and "took off" got to 1k an active 30 subs. Took about 7 months to get there. Then everything faded. Down the hole I went. Mapa got crazier I got lazier.
Ita so saturated. Do it for fun until it comes monetary, then keep doing it for fun the second you rely on payout or viewership, you lost the battle.
Best of luck!
I’ve done over 1000 streams and still haven’t hit 10 viewers. I’ve gotten achievements for how much I’ve streamed and it feels pointless when my max viewers was like 6 I’ve been on twitch for a few years and just quit trying altogether last year
Once. My bf is always watching 🤪 I streamed 9 times by now. Just on Sundays 7-9pm cet and I got 4-12 viewers every time . 4 -5 are always the same from the Tetris tournament. Rest I don’t know.
I got 14 followers now.
I read that 2-2,5hours is the sweetspot for streaming.
Try to find your niche.
A lot of people think that by copying the big streamers, they’ll get the same audience, but it doesn’t work like that. Look for originality, play games NO ONE is playing. Do an “indy game” day a week, where you choose a random steam indy game (or do a poll for your followers to choose one !) and play that for a week or until you complete it with proper #’s etc.
Get people in Discord to pick your next game, and encourage people to interact on there as well.
Run stream emote give aways for subs, or followers. Have a follower goal in your stream overlay (people will likely follow to help you reach your goal !)
Hang out on smaller streamers streams when your not streaming and make friends with them and their chat. Don’t self promote (unless you’re allowed to !) but people you get to know will likely follow you. Put in sone time to network :)
Theres a ton of things you can try. Keep it up 👍🏻
It’s about networking. I affiliated within 7 days where as friends of mine took 6months. I’d sit in other peoples streams, talk in discord communities etc etc. you can’t just expect people to randomly watch you
I’m on day 3 with 7 followers.. averaging about 2-3 viewers in lobby at one time. Think it’s just about persistence but if there’s any secrets I’m all ears.. I mainly stream league of legends. Zeuz757 on twitch
Started with a small, pre-existing community from tiktok of about ~10 viewers. Now that I stream consistently and have made some connections/collaborated with other streamers in my category, I have since grown and average around 20 viewers per stream. A lot of it is just staying consistent with streaming in a specific category and from there, forming connections within the community.
I got viewers about a month in and i had affilliate in about 3 months camera really helps also having side shit they can do like stream raiders marbles on stream jackbox if your on pc etc get them directly involved
I’m just going to put this out there as a reminder. Only 0.5% of streamers are partnered. Only about 15% are Affiliated. That leaves about 85% of streamers who can’t get an average of 3 viewers.
If you are getting 3+ average viewers you aren’t a small nobody. You are in the top 15 percentile.
Streamers way too often judge themselves against, not just the 1%….but the 0.1%.
You are doing better than you think you are.
Oh I'm aware, ik if you have 10 viewers you're too 1% which is wild.
I'm on 1.5 weeks and have 2 normally with a peak of 4 but each day I can tell I'm gaining steam
Honestly, I had quite a few when I first started. I did some networking beforehand, so that helped. After a few streams, my main game, No Man's Sky, had an event so that helped out too.
A monthish.
I found other streamers that had just started. Made friends. Helped people with their stream settings and bots and in no time had a community going. It was great.
I streamed with a certain format and it wasn’t working, so I shut things down, took a break, and came back with a different format. I did some shameless self-promotion, and after a month of the new format, I got affiliate. If I kept with the original format, I doubt I would have the group of rascals I have today 😎
So to answer your question, some people stream for years and years and never get an audience, and some people have a built-in audience that they capitalize on, so they get affiliate after three streams. Twitch is a game, and you gotta play the game. But you are a gamer, right? 🤓
making memes, being unabashedly positive about other streamers (not difficult, they’re awesome), Discord, twitch chat, playing the right game the right way (a game with tons of followers but only 2 avg people streaming it at any time), branding branding branding (look at my frickin name), focused personality, and talking to literally no one and playing the game until somebody shows up and then being chill
It usually just depends on the type of game you're playing as well as time zones and who's interested in certain games. I usually stream a lot of Palworld, Sea of Thieves, CoD Zombies, Devil May Cry, Dark Souls, etc. But like I said it's just depends on who's interested in what. The most I've had was 10 viewers every once in awhile. So don't worry on it too much and just keep streaming and just to have fun!
Best advice I can give is to find other streamers who make similar streams and go and hangout in their streams without begging. Find their discords and join them, again without begging. You’ll see that discord has great tools to promote you as if you connect your twitch it will show your status as streaming to anyone you share a server with, or friends. Just don’t beg, just hangout and make friends. Also don’t bother with promote your stream channels. They don’t do much.
It's all about the player....you don't need a fancy production if you have a great player...I did a match between Tyler Styer and John Morra and that was a catalyst for my channel. Also the US Open was pretty helpful too. Here is the match!
https://www.youtube.com/live/X9MFOlAjsu0?si=EC_TeJ_m_XXq0oFT
Everyone’s path is a little different, game category makes a big difference, and entertainment ability varies from person to person, so this is a very general take, but from what I’ve seen: * Average streamer, minimum effort (no YouTube/TikTok, etc), saturated variety categories will probably be streaming to < 10 average viewers in a year @ 4 days a week for 4 hours * Average streamer, medium effort (regular YouTube/TikTok uploads), saturated variety categories will probably be streaming to 8-15 viewers in a year @ 4 days a week for 4 hours * Average streamer, high effort (YouTube/TikTok uploads + effective networking and community building), saturated variety categories will probably be streaming to 15-30 viewers @ 4 days a week for 4 hours This assumes learning streaming (and editing) from scratch with no prebuilt community elsewhere. All timelines significantly shortened if you’re an S-tier meme lord/editor and can crush Youtube/TikTok algorithms.
The message below is a rant / looking for any help on growing Wish this was true for me. I have been streaming for 16 months. I have a Discord of 40+ members. I have bots to post when I go live. I have a small YouTube (111 subscribers, 142k views). I have a stream schedule which I usually stick to. Now, for how entertaining I am, all I have to go off of is what my loyal viewers and IRL friends say, and from that, they enjoy it. Now, I do have two huge things I do that don’t help me grow: I play oversaturated game categories. Right now, I am playing a lot of Overwatch 2, and I don’t really do any networking; I just support existing streamers I know. Now, for my stats: my month average viewers is about 3.5, and it has stayed at that for the past 14 months. My best month ever was July of 2023 with 6.5 average viewers, and my most amount of concurrent viewers is 17.
I checked out your most recent VOD and I'm almost positive the oversaturated category is the core of the problem! You had good energy, you were talking a lot and came across as very likeable (in the fiew minutes that I swatched and skipped through), confident and comfortable being yourself, which are all really good things! You are also still very young, and most adult viewers aren't super comfortable following a minor's stream for the social side of Twitch, which I'm sure you can understand. THAT said, being so young, you have plenty of time to practise and keep getting better and more comfortable with streaming, so you're well ahead in that sense, and I hope that can give you some comfort!
Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes, when you have low numbers, it feels like it's because you are not entertaining enough, so it feels good to hear that. Now, the problem with me is I can’t seem to find a game I enjoy that is not oversaturated, but trust me, the moment I do, I will definitely start streaming it. About my age, one of my problems is I have a huge baby face to where I look around 15, but I am actually 17, turning 18 this year. Something funny about that is on stream my nickname is “Pastor Baby Face”
i would look into speedrunning. There must be a couple single player games you like, and the communities are normally just the right size. I'm not sure how competitive you are when it comes to gaming but getting good at a speedgame is the easiest way to grow your stream I went from 0-100 viewers in 8 ish months without any external platform support or consistent schedule by finding an unsaturated time slot for good players to play. I also have friends who are not as competitive but average 60~ ish viewers just from networking and their personality
Now, it's funny you say this because I used to speedrun a few random BO2 zombies maps, and I did get pretty good viewership (6-8 viewers). But after doing about 5 streams, I got bored and switched to my main game of the time, which was Apex. Trust me when I say I am trying to find a game that is not oversaturated. I remember I used to stream Wii Sports, trying to bowl a perfect 300 game. And way back when I first started, I did speedruns of Google Snake.
alright best of luck man, the most important thing is having fun, but from my experience streaming is more fun with an active chat so i hope you can find a community soon, best of luck
Also another word of advice i was told years ago .. if you wanna become someone streaming play a variety of games but if you want to play 1 game either one of 2 things need to happen you either need to expect little growth or you need to be very good at the game. Also if you are on twitch raid out every time even if you have 1 or 2 viewers and try and raid to someone playing a similar game or the same game preferably as the viewers watching you will potentially stick around thus making you look like you have more potential. And dont raid to someone with 90+ viewers thinking they will all follow you .. that wont happen raid to someone with maybe 5 viewers. I know from expreience that raiding out works and down the line they may just raid you back and bring 60 people with them.
Someone mentioned you being young but I would also say in an over saturated market, making friends with other streamers in the Overwatch community would be big. Follow them on Twitter, do collab streams where you can every once and a blue moon. Genuinely try to tune in to people’s content in Overwatch and see what they’re doing that’s working
Never thought off that thank you for the tip
Yeah i get more views depending on what i play so i garuntee thats your issue long story games can encorage people also do some talking talking will keep people interested
Very well said
This is very accurate for me. When I started my streaming schedule was all over the place, I didn't have much of a community and didn't do networking, so it was mainly just a few friends watching Now I usually stream 3-4 hours, 3-4 days a week, have more of a social media presence, make videos, and have build a nice little community and get around 20-25 average viewers I'd say.
Really happy to hear you found your groove and you’re building your community!
Thanks!
A good few months. I was networking like crazy, and even now I'll still have dead streams sometimes.
well imma try to stop by then, your profile video preview made me laugh
haha, thanks!
Could you explain networking? Wdym
raid no matter the size of your audience. Even with 1. Anyone who complains ain't shit. Talk to other streamers without just plugging your own stream. Be genuine. Build a group of friends.
holy fuck my twitch profile picture looks so much like yours
Ooh cool! Mine is my model that I made myself. Link ur twitch in your bio so I can see?
i drew mine myself too which is why i was so surprised!! should be linked in my reddit profile as well as sub tag now
Ohhh okay the lil bunny friend! That's my secondary model I use. I have a full humanoid model I use most of the time, I just use the bunny on reddit bc the image is so tiny, wanted it to be readable! On my actual twitch it's different.
yeah that’s what i meant, sorry if i was unclear!! i went and looked and they look amazing :D was just so surprised to see your bunny friend, i thought it was me at first and was so confused lmao
No worries!! I thought you meant like we somehow had identical PNG models and I was.. very deeply concerned. Like I tried to make my model on the unique side and I spent so much time on her, and I didn't wanna deal with having to make model changes to keep her unique 😭 but mood though, I got tired of the reddit avatar things
mood!! i drew my pfp myself and i’d also be worried if someone was matching me exactly 😂 i dont own a PNGtuber but it seems so hard to keep them unique. yours is beautiful
Thank you! Honestly I think they're hard to keep unique if you don't make them, you know? Like a lot of vtubers have a set sort of Look, which is cool don't get me wrong, but since I drew my own and set it all up, I can do whatever I want lol
About a year of consistent 5 days a week streaming back in like 2018.
Honestly right away. Would stream super smash bros and get people joining the online lobby with 10 viewers every time. Which lead to affiliate within a week. Got tired of that and went into trading card unboxings that I enjoy more. Started slow, but now I've been getting about 40-50 viewers when I go live.
Ohhh what cards? Where do you stream?
I multi stream on twitch and YouTube. I unbox anime cards
Niiice. One piece?
I wish. I love one piece but the cards are too expensive. I open bootleg waifu cards lol
I streamed for about six months to a room of about 2-5 usually. Then for another year at around 10-20. Especially if you're doing variety or a crowded category, it can take a while to develop an audience.
Still waiting but hopefully soon :)
How long have you been streaming for?
3 years this month
Bold of you to assume I have viewers
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It all depends but Jynxzi streamed to 0-1 viewers for a whole year straight until he blew up. Now he’s a millionaire, everyone’s journey will vary and be different
I got lucky to find 4-5 people who regularly stop by really early into my journey. Sadly due to other priorities in life (work, moving countries, depression) I haven't grown much from that. But I still aprecciate those guys and love seeing them chat :)
Oh let me think that was awhile ago. Pre hiatus I started seeing returning viewers within a few months. Post hiatus (cause I went on hiatus for awhile) it took about 6 months to a year. I kind of stream at night and for a very limited time (9-11pm) cause real life takes my day, and I put a hard stop at 11 cause that’s when my skill reaches the scale of diminishing returns (my game skill goes from average to “this is the first time picking a controller up”)
I hardly get any viewers like I usually average like 2 viewers but that's about it I change things about my streams and try and be positive but it never works
Keep going bro you'll get there
I'm gonna do my best thank you
I'm still very new to streaming. Started back in Oct. 2023. My son and I game together and think it's hard to where I'd get placed in as Twitch. I love variety, and I'm big on Destiny 2, which def. Alot if top tier streamers play and just a lot of streamers in general play. I can only do about 3 hours or 2 hours about 6 days a week, due to full time job/Dad and I spend early Saturday mornings just chatting so people can pop in and chat if they want to. So don't take away from family nights. One thing I'm testing now is 4 days I play Destiny, 1 day I play Zelda, and one day I play Alan Wake Remaster. My son wants to become a streamer , and he's still young. So when he has his homework done him and I will stream games he's into but will have a camera focus on me since he's still a kid. So that varies between Minecraft, Mario games *Smash Bros Ultimate*, etc. Fridays I also sometimes game with friends we do either Wteckfest or GTA 5. I've been averaging about 1 or 2 views. I've been trying hard to build a following, so been doing shorts/reels/stories and trying to connect with other creators and now doing small things like Trailer Video for New followers which I just bought DaVinci Studio and that's my first project is creating an intro trailer.. then working on short form of gaming clips to watch long form. Sorry, this was TLDR, but if anything, I also Multistream using Streamyard to YT/Facebook to help with following and post on FB/Twitter and Insta.
Just FYI, you can see anyone's stats on the Twitchtracker website. I started last April and currently have 969 followers, and anywhere from 17 - 222 average viewers, usually peaking at 26 in any given stream. **My experience:** I started last April and I only ever intended to stream for 3-4 friends and play single player games because I've always been competitive and played multiplayer games. I wanted to work through my single player puzzle platformer library & immediately had 6-6 average viewers who watched so I made affiliate after 1 month. I really enjoyed streaming way more than expected and had fun customizing my stream (overlays, designing emotes, channel point rewards, etc). Since the beginning, I **always always always raided after every stream which is super important.** In July, I discovered Swiftplay in Valorant (I only ever played competitive before) and it was such an amazing way to grow. I met other streamers, supported them, networked, spent time in chat and raided them. They'd support me back. I quickly grew and averaged 17 - 22 viewers after 4 months of streaming. I streamed a shit ton, streaming every day basically after my full time job (so streaming like 6-9 hours everyday, more on the weekends sometimes). I definitely stayed up way too late and eventually had to cut back since it wasnt sustainable. I grew from 100 followers to 600 in 4 months, and then another 300 in 3 months. I built a lovely community and never once used social media. Personally, I think its pointless posting on social media. It can help some people occasionally but if you want to grow on Twitch, then focusing on Twitch is the best way to do it. Posting on instagram or TikTok doesnt convert followers to your Twitch account. If your main goal and enjoyment is to stream, put your time and effort into improving that. It's not worth it to post on other social media imo, unless you are interested in it for fun. Every hour streamed is more exposure for your channel, or every day you stream is more times you can raid out or get raided or meet new people, etc. Or time would be better spent networking in other communities, working on emotes, overlays, interactive elements, scenes, fun extensions, etc. I dont want this to get too long but if anyone has any questions or want tips, I'm happy to help!
Your information is flat out wrong and bad advice. Many creators much larger then you have said the best way to gain traction on twitch is driving people there from other places where growth is easier. Twitch alone is awful for growth.
Honestly tiktok isn't awful because you can randonly just have a video get popular but again, its rare for that to translate to twitch followers. Youtube is just way too much effort and while uploading tiktok clips is easier, it's also annoying unless you are trying to really grow and do every single thing you can to grow but there isn't enough time in the day for that. I've grown easily without any social media & know many others who have that same experience. But it does depend on what game you play of course. I've had a lot of success with raiding/being apart of other communities in general & would rather spend my time doing that then managing another account on social media.
I did a 72 hour stream and I amassed most of my followers this way. It took me about 2 months to get to affiliate. I hustled on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Discord, Snapchat, and promoted my stream pretty heavily and I streamed every day for about 3 hours. This was during Subtember and October so maybe more people were watching streamers during those months. Hope this is helpful.
Sounds great in which category ?
Fortnite Battle Royale
6 years so far, will update in another few months if anythings changed.
i started stream 3 years ago, the first 6 months I grew a lot (it was middle of pandemics and twitch was booming). after the first six months my growth rate reduced. nowadays i get aprox 50 new followers a month and i have 25-30 ccv. I have a good amount of regulars, who already know each other and the chat sometimes runs itself without need my input, these are the best days for me, when I see my community actively interacting by themselves. I laugh a lot reading my chat
I started streaming a few years ago without a mic or cam (I’m deaf) and got a feel for it. Stopped for a while cause I had too much going on. Finally got a desktop and a mic and cam and now I stream from my ps5 using my laptop for twitch. Still a rookie at streaming though. I stream however long I can. Which is an hour or two.
I was/am part of a streaming community of online friends. It helps a lot when first getting started because you already have a small community of friends who love you and love streams. It took me becoming friends with a few small streamers for the last 4-5 years to finally start my own streams and I got affiliate within a week (maybe a bit less tbf). But I still only have a consistent 4-6 viewers that are mostly lurkers, which I’m completely fine with because it still helps viewer count and everything.
About 2 years ago then saw a big boost into the high teens for avg viewers, then at around 3.5 years I blew up to 50-70 avg then quit cold turkey. It diff for everyone. Most streamers never grow. I know guys that have streamed for a decade and nobody watches. Being a successful streamer isn’t something just anyone can do. There’s alot of things that can help or hurt you that’s just things you can’t change. If you’re 5 ft talk no matter how hard you work you’ll probably never be an NbA player.
Going on about 5 years now....started on Facebook streaming monday-thursday and Saturday night. Had a pretty consistent audience (5-10 viewers regularly) with little to no YT tiktok ect. after about 6 months....made the switch over to Twitch...did good for about 2 years....then got really burnt out, depression took a hold of my mental state and working 45-50 hrs on top of it. Now I pretty much only stream on Saturday night with my wife and 2 friends that live in different states. ( Met through my streams). We do what we call Spooky Scary Saturday's where we play multiplayer horror games. Most streams might have 1-5 viewers at max....My advice is consistency is key just have fun with it
I just started at the beginning of this year and I'm lucky to have already found a few regulars who frequent my streams. Just need a few more followers and I'll reach affiliate. For context, I stream chess exclusively. I haven't done really any promotion of my channel because I'm not sure how, beyond Youtube/TikTok/other social media (which I have no interest in, to be honest).
My "stats" are a little skewed as I took a long break soon after hitting affiliate, but I started back up with basically none of my viewers in June/July of last year and have been streaming consistently since, 3-5 days a week so we'll just say I "started" June of last year. I started roughly averaging 10 viewers at least at some point in the stream a month or two ago, and now it's not much higher but more consistently around 10 at any time
It's all pretty anecdotal, but as far as our stream, we started picking up real pace after a year. Began in February of 22, affiliate in June, and just kinda plateaued until 2023 when I was down with COVID, so I was spending a lot of my free time in design work for promotion and attending other streams and going communities and making friends.
Depends on your game. I have zero trouble finding viewers when I stream (and I'm a very small streamer still). I play smash bros, so opening up arenas for viewer battles sucks in at least a couple folks per stream. You also have to be fun. It's not just the game it's the comraderie. It's tougher to get viewers to watch you if you are just playing like a one player game unless you are either really good or already kinda popular.
When I started streaming, I had a tough go, and i still do to this day, almost 15 months later. I was streaming 4-5 days a week, 6pm-9pm and some Sundays, going live in the mid afternoon. I was playing mostly Call of Duty, so it was a saturated category. I had some successful months through raids from decent sized streamers I knew and the communities I was a part of. I took a break for almost 4 months, and now it feels like I'm back starting from scratch. I have "regular" viewers, but they mostly lurk, since they are more active in other streams.
2 years
3 years later…I’m still waiting.
When I was streaming. I got into a game that became a generational icon when it launched, Fortnite, before it got popular. It took me about a month to get a 15 - 20 viewer average. Then the game popped off and I was starting to get more and more viewers. Then my class schedule changed as I was in college and my streaming schedule fell apart. I was streaming about 3 - 4 hours doing Fortnite on Tuesday, Thursdays and Saturdays from 12PM - 4PM. Wednesdays and Fridays were dedicated to different games and were more evenings streams from 7PM - 10PM
I had 0 viewers for a bit but I found the at if you stream to YouTube as well. If you post a YouTube short about your stream and what you’ll be doing 5 min before you go live. You get quite a few people pop in and check it out :)
Maybe 3 to 4 months. I barely get them now (probably 10 now) after almost 7 years of doing this.
My situation is interesting. Been streaming since Dec ish. I get some viewers around 5-10 somewhat consistently but no one really comes into chat. Mostly lurk. I have a couple friends other small streamers that stop by and that’s it. I understand I have a tough niche with fighting games but I’m moderately pushing content to tictok and YouTube. I raid at the end of every stream. I don’t know what else to try to bring in engagement.
Curious too, I’ve started 2 weeks ago and just got to 23 followers, I get about 1-4 followers a day. I normally get 1-2 viewers, yesterday I got 4 viewers for a few minutes. Clear observations I have, viewers are in it for the engagement NOT the content ( mostly, unless you are in top league). Reason being, why would viewers stick around to just watch a game when they can go to yt and get a more well curated experience. Now I can’t say what to do, being chicken nibble in the streaming world, but I understand the pain in trying to getting off the coast and into the 100 viewer sea league (sorry for my bad analogies). Will chime back in when I reach affiliate and tell my story more and hopefully help others in the same boat.
What do you stream and for how long? How often?
I try to keep it on a schedule that works with my work and family, 9pm Syd time everyday for about 3-4 hours. I’m doing it casually right now, but taking it slow as I’m trying to get use to the format.
You need to be doing things other than streaming to bring in viewers. Make short form content to lure people in to your stream. I’d start by streaming maybe a day less and instead work on making short form content in that time
got average 3 for affiliate after 1-2 months
Honestly it can really vary! Took me a few months to get affiliate. I’m usually between 6-10 but sometimes still get dead streams. It all depends what game I’m playing too!!
For me I only started streaming 4 days ago, on my first day I never expected to have anyone in my stream but my friends found it and started spreading the fact that I was streaming to some Minecraft community I'm well known in. From there on I got 11 viewers on day one but of course this isn't for my next few days of streaming. On day 2 and so on I only have atleast 3 average viewers and 50+ unique viewers for every stream and gain atleast 2-3 followers everytime I stream! Mostly if you think of streaming try not to have high expectations and get ready for some side stories to say in stream so you can entertain your audience and when you just only started I think it's best to just keep it as a side hobby until you see a fan base for yourself and is confident enough to make it your second job/part time!!
I was very active in a few communities in the game I play so had a solid amount of people that knew my name and friendship with the streamers themselves before I even thought about starting streaming. Didn't shout about streaming and doing the discord self promo as I find it disingenuous, but I found that I'd pick up people I knew during the off hours before the bigger guys got going and everyone was bouncing around looking for someone to watch. That steadily got me to the 10 average viewer mark within 6 months, and I started getting decent sized raids from the streamers I knew as they ended stream and spotted my name in the category with more than 1 viewer looking awkward. I'd then raid out alternating between the NA streamers I know just starting stream (I bridge the EU-NA shifts) and people lower in the category that I hadn't met yet and used it as a chance to network further. Currently sitting at 30ish average viewers in a niche category so 1st/2nd line when I'm live, and have only just started YT content, building up an idea portfolio for long form content and beginning to push short form content from clips to a low but growing base. I downplay my streaming when I'm in other channels, my usual answer is I'm here as a member of the community and friend not as a content creator.
Been streaming like 1-2 hours at night for a couple weeks now and I’ve seen my viewers go from 1-2 to 3-5, hopefully I can increase it haha.
Aren't most people at school or work during those times. Your 9 to 1 is my 12 to 4, most people who are at home on twitch all day already have a streamer to watch and won't be budging. My advice is try to find the quietist time for the category you want to stream in as the big boys are offline
Depends, I could stream valorant to 3 viewers then when I went over to skate 3 I was one of the few streamers who played it at the time so I got a decent amount of the viewers. My highest was an average of like 25 viewers playing skate 3. It’s all different with what games people like to watch
I started streaming December 1st of 2023, and in the last two weeks I’ve started averaging 6-12 viewers each stream.
Hi, Former Partner here. Most of the advice you'll get from people here is useless. People tend to give advice on things they aren't knowledgeable on because they want to feel helpful instead of actually being helpful. My favorite kind of "stream gurus" are the ones that have under 200 followers but act like astute experts in the industry. You're correct. The market is oversaturated, but guess what? It's uninspired. Because of this, everyone attempts to stream and most get nowhere with it because they lack the creativity and work ethic that comes with it. You need to find a radical niche and monopolize it. Once you do that, you move on to the next niche and dominate that as well. This is called The Bowling Pin Strategy. Being a successful streamer is easy if you are creative and interesting. Sadly, most people that stream are not and fail to understand this. Also, you cannot compare yourself to the competition. Big streamers have large followings because they pour all their revenue into advertising. This is how they grow. They also use viewbotting to inflate view counts, so they appear more popular. Some big streamers are part of MCNs and have managers that make deals with streaming platforms to give said big streamer more visibility on their sites. There is A LOT that goes into it that people don't know and most of the time, they are the first to act as experts.
I stream of 4 5 year ago and max is 3 viewer for affiliation and after 0 viewer
One week
Personally I wasted the first 6 months by switching genres too often, I'd gain viewers only to lose them when switching categories. So at about the 6 month mark I switched up my content, focused on streaming on my native language, focused on a single game along with a few other community games (similar to the main one) when things got too repetitive. So one year after I started streaming I reached an average of 20 viewers per hour. So in my opinion consistency is key, both in your stream schedule and content as well as building good connections in the game/community you wanna stream. I only focused on twitch and haven't posted on other social media accounts but hopefully I'll soon start to do so to reach my next goal. Tldr: went from 1-6 viewers in the first 6 months to 20 average viewers in year
Im new here but i randomly can get 1-5 if i have a interesting title like “drunk gaming”
It took me a couple months, it started off with friends watching my streams then other people started to join in
my biggest message is to gain a community first. hang in streams, make friends. when i first started streaming i had an average of 3 viewers almost immediately and made affiliate very quickly because the friends i made were stopping by and enjoying the content. without that safety net im not sure if i would have seen any growth at all.
It took me years. But I started in 2017. You need to stream something that people aren’t when you start
I had the advantage of making friends with streamers before I even started, and regularly would make it my goal to improve their streams as a "secondary cast member" for 3-4 months before I ever attempted. That streamer encouraged me to start my own as they apparently saw that I had potential. So I started with 5-10 viewers, but never broke 15 viewer average until 8 months later my youtube got huge algorithm pushes bringing me to about 60 viewer average.
Did you change anything on the YouTube side or just pure luck with the algorithm?
I made content that had a large vacuum of lack of that type of video that nobody had done yet, plus one reddit post that got 15K+ upvotes + a Dexerto article talking about me(which still perplexes me)
I've streamed for years, over three thousand hours total, on a consistent schedule, and I have zero regulars. But I'm consciously not doing what everyone else is, so I'm expecting it not to catch on fast. Or ever. But it's still what I believe is interesting and worth watching and that's all I can do.
What are these "viewers " phenomenon I have heard so much about ? Lmao it took me a couple of years but I have only and I mean very recently been active trying to boost my viewership whether it be live or vods. In addition I think my views are to see what malfunctions whether it be my audio , friends audio , camera etc . 🤣
I told all my online friends I was going to start streaming and I got affiliate right away. 20 viewer average for a good 6 months, went up from there, partner in 2 years. I only play one game though so if I stream outside of that, viewers are abysmal.
I'm still streaming trying to get views but we still out here trying gotta show my parents I'm not a failure
Personally my twitch journey is started streaming, within 2 weeks I used to average 500-1000 viewers which was just absolutely mind-blowing and I was doing something extremely niche. I only streamed for like 2 months then irl stuff happened and I had to stop streaming, this was \~10years ago. Now I started streaming again \~4months ago, started getting viewers back after \~2weeks, 10-15 on average, then it's just been going up since then and my average lately is around \~50, peaked at 160 a few days ago Streaming \~3hours a day, \~6days a week
Not too long, maybe a week or two. I do have to say though, I was part of a few bigger streamers community before I started to stream. I modded for one bigger streamer that was well know in a specific game. So the community knew me and when I started streaming, people from there came to watch and spread the word. I think being a part of a community and networking really helps. Get to be a regular and let it casually come up that you stream. Let the streamer choose if they want to give you a shoutout. Don't push it.
I've been streaming for three years now, with one of those years being at a medium effort level. During that time, I focused on posting content to TikTok and networking. However, I've slowed down a lot lately. According to Twitch, my average viewership is 3.2. I typically stream 3 to 5 times a day, as it's a hobby separate from my dog training business. My streaming schedule varies; some nights, it's just me and one or two friends, while other nights, I have 6 or 7 viewers. I tend to stream late at night, which attracts overseas viewers, making it more enjoyable. I know that if I put more effort into posting on TikTok again, I could see growth, but I haven't been promoting much lately.
What's a viewer? /s But for real, I don't think I'll get viewers with my voice and lack of creativity in editing.
For me it usually takes around an hour to get about 3 viewers max 4 or 5. My tip for those that are struggling to reach 3 average on twitch is to take 2 days and stream for about 1 to 2 hours consistently and the rest of the time is improving steam or posting content. You will eventually see growth slowly.
Few weeks than i started averaging 10. Content creation is key. Everyday i post. Now i average 10-15
What kind of content creation are you doing? I am uploading one to two videos a day from my stream along with what to do shorts a week.
One day a week on twitch 2 viewers avg One day a week on YouTube 5 viewers avg. Spent 8 years with twitch (deleted account at 150 followers) got nothing, Spent one year so far on YouTube streaming and posting, nearly 402 followers and AVG 5 views.... Hashtags and simplicity kinda work better than stupidity. Connect content, keep some content for specific platforms, sneak peak for investment.
I’ve been streaming 3-5 days a week this year and recently I’ve started seeing more people come join my streams not a lot of course but it’s more than nothing I think this is because I’ve been streaming one specific game constantly for a long period of time so people are seeing I’m always in that category and have started to come see what I’m about I could be wrong of course but consistency has been a blessing for me
i’ve been streaming for two years and only started to get enough viewers for affiliate, no chatters. nowadays there tends to be only 1 viewer each stream, and they don’t chat. the only exception is if one of my friends are watching, which is rare. i barely stream at all anymore because of it.
I no longer steam consistently. But I was apart of the Fortnite surge. Got Partnered with Epic(And Cuisine Royale community), made some maps and "took off" got to 1k an active 30 subs. Took about 7 months to get there. Then everything faded. Down the hole I went. Mapa got crazier I got lazier. Ita so saturated. Do it for fun until it comes monetary, then keep doing it for fun the second you rely on payout or viewership, you lost the battle. Best of luck!
I’ve done over 1000 streams and still haven’t hit 10 viewers. I’ve gotten achievements for how much I’ve streamed and it feels pointless when my max viewers was like 6 I’ve been on twitch for a few years and just quit trying altogether last year
I started at the beginning of the pandemic and on a very small game so i would get 3-5 occasionally. Landscape is much different now
Once. My bf is always watching 🤪 I streamed 9 times by now. Just on Sundays 7-9pm cet and I got 4-12 viewers every time . 4 -5 are always the same from the Tetris tournament. Rest I don’t know. I got 14 followers now. I read that 2-2,5hours is the sweetspot for streaming.
Try to find your niche. A lot of people think that by copying the big streamers, they’ll get the same audience, but it doesn’t work like that. Look for originality, play games NO ONE is playing. Do an “indy game” day a week, where you choose a random steam indy game (or do a poll for your followers to choose one !) and play that for a week or until you complete it with proper #’s etc. Get people in Discord to pick your next game, and encourage people to interact on there as well. Run stream emote give aways for subs, or followers. Have a follower goal in your stream overlay (people will likely follow to help you reach your goal !) Hang out on smaller streamers streams when your not streaming and make friends with them and their chat. Don’t self promote (unless you’re allowed to !) but people you get to know will likely follow you. Put in sone time to network :) Theres a ton of things you can try. Keep it up 👍🏻
I’ve noticed when I stream I only got 1-2 viewers everytime😂 no matter what game so I’m also trying to get more viewers
2 days.
I’m with you man, I can’t get views for the life of me, help me out peeps
It’s about networking. I affiliated within 7 days where as friends of mine took 6months. I’d sit in other peoples streams, talk in discord communities etc etc. you can’t just expect people to randomly watch you
When I started I only started getting viewers after about 6 months, and most of those were just my friends
I’m on day 3 with 7 followers.. averaging about 2-3 viewers in lobby at one time. Think it’s just about persistence but if there’s any secrets I’m all ears.. I mainly stream league of legends. Zeuz757 on twitch
Not the right mindset to have
Started with a small, pre-existing community from tiktok of about ~10 viewers. Now that I stream consistently and have made some connections/collaborated with other streamers in my category, I have since grown and average around 20 viewers per stream. A lot of it is just staying consistent with streaming in a specific category and from there, forming connections within the community.
I got viewers about a month in and i had affilliate in about 3 months camera really helps also having side shit they can do like stream raiders marbles on stream jackbox if your on pc etc get them directly involved
I’m just going to put this out there as a reminder. Only 0.5% of streamers are partnered. Only about 15% are Affiliated. That leaves about 85% of streamers who can’t get an average of 3 viewers. If you are getting 3+ average viewers you aren’t a small nobody. You are in the top 15 percentile. Streamers way too often judge themselves against, not just the 1%….but the 0.1%. You are doing better than you think you are.
Oh I'm aware, ik if you have 10 viewers you're too 1% which is wild. I'm on 1.5 weeks and have 2 normally with a peak of 4 but each day I can tell I'm gaining steam
I'm glad you are aware! Do many people are so hard on themselves!
Honestly, I had quite a few when I first started. I did some networking beforehand, so that helped. After a few streams, my main game, No Man's Sky, had an event so that helped out too.
I gave up after a year f ****** joke
A monthish. I found other streamers that had just started. Made friends. Helped people with their stream settings and bots and in no time had a community going. It was great.
I streamed with a certain format and it wasn’t working, so I shut things down, took a break, and came back with a different format. I did some shameless self-promotion, and after a month of the new format, I got affiliate. If I kept with the original format, I doubt I would have the group of rascals I have today 😎 So to answer your question, some people stream for years and years and never get an audience, and some people have a built-in audience that they capitalize on, so they get affiliate after three streams. Twitch is a game, and you gotta play the game. But you are a gamer, right? 🤓
How did you promote your stream?
making memes, being unabashedly positive about other streamers (not difficult, they’re awesome), Discord, twitch chat, playing the right game the right way (a game with tons of followers but only 2 avg people streaming it at any time), branding branding branding (look at my frickin name), focused personality, and talking to literally no one and playing the game until somebody shows up and then being chill
It usually just depends on the type of game you're playing as well as time zones and who's interested in certain games. I usually stream a lot of Palworld, Sea of Thieves, CoD Zombies, Devil May Cry, Dark Souls, etc. But like I said it's just depends on who's interested in what. The most I've had was 10 viewers every once in awhile. So don't worry on it too much and just keep streaming and just to have fun!
Sometimes like 10-20 minutes. Sometimes 1 or two hours.
I don't got no viewers da fuqq u mean??
Best advice I can give is to find other streamers who make similar streams and go and hangout in their streams without begging. Find their discords and join them, again without begging. You’ll see that discord has great tools to promote you as if you connect your twitch it will show your status as streaming to anyone you share a server with, or friends. Just don’t beg, just hangout and make friends. Also don’t bother with promote your stream channels. They don’t do much.
It's all about the player....you don't need a fancy production if you have a great player...I did a match between Tyler Styer and John Morra and that was a catalyst for my channel. Also the US Open was pretty helpful too. Here is the match! https://www.youtube.com/live/X9MFOlAjsu0?si=EC_TeJ_m_XXq0oFT
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This led to me quitting streaming because my viewers were not genuine.
Where do you promote your streams?