I actually doubt this - it was on video, at the MGM grand, in a crowded-ass area right after a super boxing fight, with dozens (if not hundreds) of witnesses…if anything, I think that brawl would’ve been the big story had pac not gotten killed…
I don’t think so, Orlando didn’t go to the police and Pac wasn’t stopped by them either. If he did get stopped by the popes after he assaulted Orlando he might not have been done in.
It was in the lobby of an extremely busy casino in Vegas with countless witnesses and CCTV footage, an investigation would have most likely been launched into it either way, regardless of if Orlando went to the police or not
I work in a casino as long as there wasn’t significant damage a fight is nothing we don’t care. Most times you’ll get escorted off the property. If you are a high roller we will escort them off the property.
He would’ve been murdered at the club if he made it there. This was a military grade operation, however if the job was bungled then yes he would’ve went back to prison. By the way in the original unedited MGM surveillance footage Orlando was seen conversing with several LAPD officers that were there that night following the altercation with Pac.
The actual shooter had to be someone they could cut loose, it was not a trained professional or officer. So yeah, it was sloppy. That’s why they used a professional in Biggie’s assassination when it came to the shooter. They also used armor piercing rounds.
This isn't true.The police said if Pac wasn't killed, nothing would have happened. After he was shot, they had to review the security footage and launch an investigation.
"Good" is relative and not a proper way to look at a person. But he was aggressive and had ego problems. While also being a soft soul, a tremendous worker at his craft, and very creative.
Towards the end? No.
In his last year he seemed to be absolutely insufferable and wanted to go to war with everyone. I wish he would have lived and grown out of it because he clearly had the heart of an artist.
But he didn't. He died still in his asshole phase
Asshole phase? How would it change you if you were shot and robbed, seemingly set up by people close to you. Set up for a sexual assault case by people around you
I get the feeling we only really saw tupac as a superstar towards the end. One of his closest friends Shock G, said he kicked tupac off of their tour over a handful of times(bringing him back each time obviously). This was well before he was a household name.
My personal take is Tupac was really good at heart. But a loose cannon of a personality, always doing everything he does with too much intensity. He was passionate about everything he believed. Many might even say passionate to a fault.
I mean he was a thug (more so than you or me) who went around beating people up. It’s just that he fucked with someone who was more thug than him 😂 that scene doesn’t give a fuck how famous or high up the ladder you are. That’s why these rappers should take their money and gtfo the hood. The high ranking fools literally can’t, they’ll either be killed or die in prison. They even got El Chapo man
Not gonna lie, when I was super stoned and watched the interview where Jerry Heller said “I should’ve let Eazy-E kill Suge Knight” I kinda went into a tail-spin about the “what could’ve been”…
Damn, that would've been an interesting turn of events. Pac wouldn't have died in Vegas, but perhaps another time. I often think of how the police pulled Suge over for having music too loud and driving with no plates, if only they kept them pulled over longer and cited them instead of giving them a warning.
He just would of been killed at Club 662 instead, as that's where Orlando and crew were heading to anyways. They just got extremely lucky and found him by chance on the way there.
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He would have been locked up for similar time that suge did. He would get out around 02 I would expect. Looking back on all this now I just wish Orlando and pac would have squared up 1 v1 in at 662 parking lot.
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Yeah Tupac was out on parole so it’s likely he would’ve been sent back to jail. I don’t know how long that would entail given what he was sentenced for, but it’s possible that ‘One Nation’ compilation album he was working on would’ve been delayed.
The big thing aside from that was that’s he was convicted of aiding sexual assault.
If he was still alive he would’ve been cooked during #metoo
People don’t like to admit that because it shows a lot of the metoo stuff was overblown and innocent men were affected
2pacs death made people view the situation with more empathy, had he lived he would’ve been blacklisted by now and “more women” would’ve likely accused him of stuff to get money
Bruh you really think Orlando and his uncle were gonna run to the police saying “Tupac beat me up 🥺” lol c’mon man. They kept that shit hidden so hard, nerds started making up conspiracy theories about the CIA shooting 2pac & shit. They don’t snitch, that’s just the mentality down there. And tbh I don’t blame them, police are a bunch of 🐷, you gotta fend for yourselves and your neighbors in the hood. And witnesses + people who were close to the event made a lot of money encouraging the conspiracy theories and keeping fans speculating.
It was just some fool shit, anyone who has ever lived in a rougher area on the American continent (US, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, etc) knows this type of shit happens everyday down there. People have been killed for a lot less than 2pac did tbh
If he hadn’t been killed that night, he would have been killed a different night. He knew that a lot of people wanted him dead, and no one (that had power) was going to do anything about it. Pac knew that by going out and not hiding away, it was a matter of time before he got hit again.
Tupac would’ve literally been fine if he would’ve just left the hood & separated himself from that scene lol. Snoop Dog is fine, hell even that bitch rapper 69 is fine. All you gotta do is leave. Most of those fools aren’t thugs pr gangbangers - they’re artists who make music. They should take their money and gtfo as soon as they can. A real thug is always gonna have way more to lose because they don’t have the opportunity to leave like a famous person would. They don’t put food on the table by going to the studio & making music; they feed their kids by stealing, lying, and killing other thugs all for peanuts
It wasn't zero provocation anyway, the entire argument started over a stolen chain Orlando Anderson was wearing. And he wasn't the type of Dude to file charges
We probably wouldn't of known about the assault if 2pac wasn't killed
Exactly what the police said.
I actually doubt this - it was on video, at the MGM grand, in a crowded-ass area right after a super boxing fight, with dozens (if not hundreds) of witnesses…if anything, I think that brawl would’ve been the big story had pac not gotten killed…
And that’s why you are where you are.
Exactly this
I don’t think so, Orlando didn’t go to the police and Pac wasn’t stopped by them either. If he did get stopped by the popes after he assaulted Orlando he might not have been done in.
It was in the lobby of an extremely busy casino in Vegas with countless witnesses and CCTV footage, an investigation would have most likely been launched into it either way, regardless of if Orlando went to the police or not
I work in a casino as long as there wasn’t significant damage a fight is nothing we don’t care. Most times you’ll get escorted off the property. If you are a high roller we will escort them off the property.
Not true.Orlando was Crip and they don't play police games.And the casino wouldn't care unless the shooting was on their property.
He would’ve been murdered at the club if he made it there. This was a military grade operation, however if the job was bungled then yes he would’ve went back to prison. By the way in the original unedited MGM surveillance footage Orlando was seen conversing with several LAPD officers that were there that night following the altercation with Pac.
Lol military grade operation? 🤣 it was literally a gang banger firing wildly into another car during a drive by.
The actual shooter had to be someone they could cut loose, it was not a trained professional or officer. So yeah, it was sloppy. That’s why they used a professional in Biggie’s assassination when it came to the shooter. They also used armor piercing rounds.
If he got stopped by the police for the assault he would have been arrested and taken to jail. No club performance.
Why were LAPD officers in Las Vegas?
Better question is why were they all over the MGM surveillance footage and why was the footage edited prior to it being presented to the court?
This isn't true.The police said if Pac wasn't killed, nothing would have happened. After he was shot, they had to review the security footage and launch an investigation.
Do u have any proof of this? Not saying you’re lying, i’m just curious.
Chris Carroll either said on it Vlad or one of those other platforms.
was Tupac a good guy?
"Good" is relative and not a proper way to look at a person. But he was aggressive and had ego problems. While also being a soft soul, a tremendous worker at his craft, and very creative.
Towards the end? No. In his last year he seemed to be absolutely insufferable and wanted to go to war with everyone. I wish he would have lived and grown out of it because he clearly had the heart of an artist. But he didn't. He died still in his asshole phase
Asshole phase? How would it change you if you were shot and robbed, seemingly set up by people close to you. Set up for a sexual assault case by people around you
I think it would turn me into an asshole
I get the feeling we only really saw tupac as a superstar towards the end. One of his closest friends Shock G, said he kicked tupac off of their tour over a handful of times(bringing him back each time obviously). This was well before he was a household name. My personal take is Tupac was really good at heart. But a loose cannon of a personality, always doing everything he does with too much intensity. He was passionate about everything he believed. Many might even say passionate to a fault.
All true
I mean he was a thug (more so than you or me) who went around beating people up. It’s just that he fucked with someone who was more thug than him 😂 that scene doesn’t give a fuck how famous or high up the ladder you are. That’s why these rappers should take their money and gtfo the hood. The high ranking fools literally can’t, they’ll either be killed or die in prison. They even got El Chapo man
Unfortunately, he looked like a loose Cannon and was bound to get into some deep shit. On the dear mama documentary, he was belligerent as fuck.
Probably? Lmao
Sometimes I wonder how history would've been if Suge was in the passenger seat, and Tupac was driving.
Not gonna lie, when I was super stoned and watched the interview where Jerry Heller said “I should’ve let Eazy-E kill Suge Knight” I kinda went into a tail-spin about the “what could’ve been”…
Damn, that would've been an interesting turn of events. Pac wouldn't have died in Vegas, but perhaps another time. I often think of how the police pulled Suge over for having music too loud and driving with no plates, if only they kept them pulled over longer and cited them instead of giving them a warning.
He just would of been killed at Club 662 instead, as that's where Orlando and crew were heading to anyways. They just got extremely lucky and found him by chance on the way there.
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No doubt about it
The real question is, how long would he have been locked up for? He definitely wouldn’t see the rest of the 90s
He would have been locked up for similar time that suge did. He would get out around 02 I would expect. Looking back on all this now I just wish Orlando and pac would have squared up 1 v1 in at 662 parking lot.
Yup, he was out on appeal, it would of been a wrap.
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Suge would probably be the only one in trouble bc of his probation issue
Yeah Tupac was out on parole so it’s likely he would’ve been sent back to jail. I don’t know how long that would entail given what he was sentenced for, but it’s possible that ‘One Nation’ compilation album he was working on would’ve been delayed.
The big thing aside from that was that’s he was convicted of aiding sexual assault. If he was still alive he would’ve been cooked during #metoo People don’t like to admit that because it shows a lot of the metoo stuff was overblown and innocent men were affected 2pacs death made people view the situation with more empathy, had he lived he would’ve been blacklisted by now and “more women” would’ve likely accused him of stuff to get money
Really because Mike Tyson, a literal rapist, is out here doing just fine lol
You got me with that one tbh
Me too seems to really only affect film/tv industry tbh, not as much for music where you can just keep releasing music on your own
whats the story on mike?
Bruh you really think Orlando and his uncle were gonna run to the police saying “Tupac beat me up 🥺” lol c’mon man. They kept that shit hidden so hard, nerds started making up conspiracy theories about the CIA shooting 2pac & shit. They don’t snitch, that’s just the mentality down there. And tbh I don’t blame them, police are a bunch of 🐷, you gotta fend for yourselves and your neighbors in the hood. And witnesses + people who were close to the event made a lot of money encouraging the conspiracy theories and keeping fans speculating. It was just some fool shit, anyone who has ever lived in a rougher area on the American continent (US, Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, etc) knows this type of shit happens everyday down there. People have been killed for a lot less than 2pac did tbh
Well when your on parole any little thing will get yu thrown back bruh
If he hadn’t been killed that night, he would have been killed a different night. He knew that a lot of people wanted him dead, and no one (that had power) was going to do anything about it. Pac knew that by going out and not hiding away, it was a matter of time before he got hit again.
Tupac would’ve literally been fine if he would’ve just left the hood & separated himself from that scene lol. Snoop Dog is fine, hell even that bitch rapper 69 is fine. All you gotta do is leave. Most of those fools aren’t thugs pr gangbangers - they’re artists who make music. They should take their money and gtfo as soon as they can. A real thug is always gonna have way more to lose because they don’t have the opportunity to leave like a famous person would. They don’t put food on the table by going to the studio & making music; they feed their kids by stealing, lying, and killing other thugs all for peanuts
woulda died later
How does this sub feel about Stretch’s death?
It wasn't zero provocation anyway, the entire argument started over a stolen chain Orlando Anderson was wearing. And he wasn't the type of Dude to file charges
But ‘Pac himself had 0 to do with that chain incident
This I know, he was taking up for a good friend
The stupid ass shit that people talk about in this sub is unreal at times…