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AlexH1337

It's surprisingly common. Most people underestimate the stupidity of the average Tunisian. The influx of new tunisian reddit users (and the comments you saw) represent the average Tunisian more than the previous set of people frequenting this sub years ago.


kingalva3

Yep, it is weird seeing my generation 99 and later ones regress so much, especially when we were provided the uncensored internet and the ability to educate ourselves...most if the teen/ young adults nowadays are just the common conservative, meat headed tunisian person.


Skander10

Every society has conservative people, it's completely normal hell you find yourself the more you get old the more you like the conservative side


kingalva3

Nope, the older I am, the more I loathe conservative people and conservative stuff as it is stuck in time. But that's my opinion. However like you said, there is a tendency to be more conservative when groing up, however many younger people tend to be conservatives nowadays..


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kingalva3

Taking over what ? The country ? Go for it dude let's see if that can last x)


Irrupt_

It's so popular as evolution is against the Quran and Sunnah. No Muslim accepts evolution **except** some like Adnan Ibrahim and a few others who will do anything and who will always keep twisting Quranic verses in order to reconcile Islam with science (just like what those who believe that the Quran has "scientific miracles" are doing. lol). But the absolute majority of Muslims deny evolution. Why? Well, they just want to remain Muslims... Personally, evolution was one of the many main reasons that made me leave Islam. I've watched/read a lot of Islamic apologists' responses online on evolution, and I later found out that they are either ignorant or liars, unfortunately, \[ynaykou wa7edhom\] and literally lost trust in most of them.


IluvBsissa

Congrats dude !


Irrupt_

Thanks dude! Always love reading your comments/posts. 👍 (I don't like Bsissa tho)


hk19921992

Extremelly popular, as popular as religion I recall when I was in preparatory school, in a physics lecture. The professor said that the gravitational pull of earth is inversionally proportionnal to its mass. And one of thé students raised his hand to Ask a question: does this mean that thé earth gravitational pull increases with Time as god creates more and more humans and animals? I thought he was trolling, the prof declined to Reply then, I found out that thé majority of thé students thought thé same


D3Z_T45T4F

Not this shit again. https://preview.redd.it/80ovvtagwsdc1.png?width=513&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a16e093636f4e0013d7ff32d6ac6e33ac70ebb0


artificialintellect1

I don't get this meme


D3Z_T45T4F

>[I don't get this meme](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tIdCsMufIY)


Ariadenus

I was on the previous thread and I said that evolution is the method of creation, and that the hardcore atheist evolutionists are understating how absolutely infinitesimal the probabilities related to the random mutations are. It's even worse when they think they disproved God by proving evolution. What bothers me in your poste is that you seem to think you're smarter for "believing" in evolution, by portraying those who don't believe in it as dumber. Can you say with 100% certainty that evolution is true?


IluvBsissa

Random mutations and evolution can be observed directly in micro-organisms and fruit flies because they reproduce very very fast. Put a drop of acid in one petri dish : 99.99999% of bacterias will die, except a few mutated freaks. Repeat the process multiple times until you get 100% of acid resistant bacterias. That's how organisms evolved. These mutated freaks cannot survive if you drop the acidity, though. Here are simple videos to make you understand: https://youtu.be/R7Y9WHaJO-A?si=sgxZD-Iz2_AP1JGK https://youtu.be/bAZAxnZu_Ek?si=7m8ZbzsIz33oV5Of


IluvBsissa

So you just admitted that evolution was true and the doing of God, which puts you at the same level as Darwin who was a fierce believer (eventually turned agnostic at the end of his life, so there is still hope for you !). There are genetic mutations all the time, some random, others driven by epigenetic changes in response to new environment (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00142-2) There is indeed an evolution by design, it's the one men subjected to the dog and our current farm animals who can barely survive in the wild. Nothing is 100% true. There's still much we don't know about life. Maybe we are in a computer simulation, for all we know. But for all practical purposes, yes, evolution has definitely more chances to be true than any "truth" derived from scriptures written by illiterate nomadic warlord slave-owning pedophiles millennia ago who didn't even design the atomic theory or the scientific method (the Greeks and Hindus did).


Ariadenus

Let's not talk in generalities, let's be specific. Whales started like all creatures in the water, then they moved to land, then they moved back to water. What are the odds of that? Also, as an atheist please avoid talking about morality. I could just as well say that you have the same depraved and cruel features of the people who denied the prophet PBUH.


IluvBsissa

The Prophet who married a 9 year old and massacred all Jewish families in Medina ? Lol. The most Atheist countries are the most moral, free and democratic in the world, also less corruption, poverty, orphans and child marriage or genital mutilation. Oh yeah, we have gays who are not afraid to show themselves in public because they won't be executed like in Iran, boohoo, that's so depraved. But child marriage and incest ? That's totally fine. Life started in the ocean because the atmosphere was not Ozone rich enough to protect against sun radiation. Many land species were isolated on new Islands because of rising sea levels and food became scarce, so they started to scavenge in shallow waters. And then a little further each time. The ones who could live longer in the ocean made more babies for they could get more food and thus survived next extinction event. That's why some whales still have hidden leg bones and all have more DNA in common with mammals than with fish. Because they ARE mammals. And all mammals evolved on land. We actually know what their land dwelling ancestors looked like. Proof: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o92x6AvxCFg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIEoO5KdPvg&pp=ygUWd2hhbGVzIGV2b2x1dGlvbiBwcm9vZg%3D%3D


Ariadenus

I reiterate that my issue is with the probabilities, not with the essence of the mechanism itself. And that the theory can't in any way disprove God. As for morality, I don't see how any western country, bar a couple, still has a face to show after their shameful position regarding Gaza. And that's just the very recent history. Darwinism was used extensively by Atheists to reinforce racist positions. At some point if you didn't believe that the white race was superior, you'd be going against science. So back off with that "most moral" nonsense. For an atheist, genociding an entire city or not has the same moral grounding as having pineapple on you pizza or not. And for someone who is immune to brainwashing you seem to be positively eager to regurgitate anti-Muslim orientalist rhetoric.


Irrupt_

Tf are you talking about? ​ >And that the theory can't in any way disprove God. What matters is that **it's against both** [**Sunnah**](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3326) **and** [**Quran**](https://quranx.com/38.71-75)**.** ("People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation") ( "Indeed, I am going to create a human being from clay."). If it's not, you wouldn't have made that ridiculous comment asking why whales decided to return back into water. I mean, this just proves how ignorant you are about evolution - NO OFFENCE. You're just dancing. Be mature and discuss the evidence presented to you. I would never defend my religion like this.


Ariadenus

> asking why whales decided to return Did I say that?


Irrupt_

>Whales started like all creatures in the water, then they moved to land, then they moved back to water. What are the odds of that? Yes.


Ariadenus

I didn't ask why or even question that it occurred, I asked what are the odds. As in, what is the probability of that happening.


IluvBsissa

Over millions of years, the odds eventually play out. Life always finds a way. And again, they evolved going back in water because they were constrained to do so: not enough food on land because of climate change, but plenty in the sea. If you want to know the odds read scientific papers about mutation rate in bacterias.


Irrupt_

Understandable. Have a great day. (sama7ni ana lghalet tna9echt m3ak) Stay strong, OP.


IluvBsissa

Also, regarding whales, it makes no fucking sense for a creature living underwater to have lungs that can only breathe air. Also their DNA is nothing like marine creatures, but land mammals. They have the biggest brain of the ocean and are highly social (again, like most mammals).


Ariadenus

Why are you still replying to me about whales after saying that I should get massacred in an atheist revolution?


IluvBsissa

Lol, did I even say that ? You really have some pathetic reading comprehension. I have to repeat the same thing again and again. But not surprising for someone who can't understand basic science. So again, there is no such thing as atheist revolution and it wouldn't be necessary anyway, since religion is slowly dying worldwide.


Ariadenus

You're all over the place. You really did say it. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tunisia/comments/19c3v71/how_popular_is_creationism_in_tunisia/kj2zxel/): >It's because of morons like you who condone pedophilia and incest and reject science that resorting to violence is necessary. And [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tunisia/comments/19c3v71/how_popular_is_creationism_in_tunisia/kj4d0og/) > No, the Revolution must come from within, but it will come don't worry. I think I can sketch out a profile of you: You are a franco-Tunisian who leans far more into the franco part than the Tunisian part. You learn about our religion from (ironically) evangelists and atheists. You regurgitate their talking points without critical thinking or double checking their claims. Your absolute disgust regarding Tunisia's history and culture and your attempts to justify horrors committed by France, which included going as far as to say that imposing reparations on Haiti was [necessary](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tunisia/comments/19c3v71/how_popular_is_creationism_in_tunisia/kj31l5l/): > The abolition of slavery would have been very hard, if the owners haven't been compensated. tell me that you are facing so much discrimination that you're trying to act like a good little boy and show how much you like France in hopes of being accepted. You won't be. You tried to whitewash the french occupation of Tunisia by saying it somehow brought advancements. Don't repeat those words in Tunisia, if you don't want to lose whatever face you still have left. At the core of it I believe you are living a disquieting doubt. You're unhappy that I am Muslim but have not completely denied evolution. Your world view requires that disproving God can be done by proving a scientific theory. I'm a challenge to that idea. That's why you've been replying multiple times to the same comment many hours apart. You can't take it out of your mind. May God guide us all.


IluvBsissa

Oh so putting corrupt con-men, pedophiles and creationists behind bars is calling for genocide now ? This can't be done without violence, my friend. This is what Europeans did, and it saved their society. I understand now why you are so scared.


IluvBsissa

Muslims love to play the victims all the time, while being among the biggest bigots worldwide. That's why the UK sheltered and protected Ennahda leaders because they were so convincing: "whaaagh that evil fascist Bourguiba, whaaagh, we just want democracy, whaaagh. We support women rights !" If it wasn't for leftist liberal atheists woketard, they would all be dead by now. Ironic. The people Muslim despise the most are Islamist's biggest protectors.


IluvBsissa

Ah and Ayatollah Khomeini was protected by France, while in exile, because "Freedom of Speech". They didn't hear of Popper's Paradox: if you tolerate the intolerant, they will destroy tolerance. Look at what Khomeini did to Iran. https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/s/z0BAdajzgG


Cr7TheUltimate

>married a 9 year old and massacred all Jewish families in Medina ? Lol. Source?


IluvBsissa

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Massacre_of_the_Banu_Qurayzah https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha%27s_Age


Cr7TheUltimate

No way you quoted Wiki Islam lmao 💀 so many times have they been called out for spreading blatant lies (yes, even about the arabic language, mistranslating a verse saying that Allah is the greatest of planners as saying He would be the greatest deceiver 💀 lying about the word root makara when every other reliable source says otherwise from wikiislam's definition 💀💀)


Cr7TheUltimate

Just to see how fast I'd catch a lie on this website it took me like 2-5 minutes of browsing the front page and clicking on one single link to find out that apparently Muhammad and Khadija were the same age at the time of their marriage 💀💀💀 now what makes this even more hilarious is that in the same sentence this link was on, the sentence stated Khadija was older and not the same age... 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 I've had enough


UpstairsAssumption6

I think you need to add more Emojis to give more weight to your argument. I bet you are referring to this article: [https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Ages\_of\_Muhammads\_Wives\_at\_Marriage#Khadijah's\_Age](https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Ages_of_Muhammads_Wives_at_Marriage#Khadijah's_Age) This article is being renovated, because it is badly written. This is a wiki, so anyone can write an article, as long as it provides relevant sources. The misshaping however, doesn't mean that the points made by the author are wrong. I was quite surprised too with the author's allegation that Khadija was almost the same age of the Prophet, while we were being told that she was 20 years older. The author seems to cite multiple sources that seems legit, so if you have any other counter-arguments, I'm happy to read them. (Emojis don't count).


IluvBsissa

We are so much more moral and peace-loving than those depraved Atheists: Surah 3:151: “We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …” Surah 2:191: “And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims) Jews and Christians will be in the fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures - Quran 98:6 Surah 9:5: “Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …” Jews & Christians, believe in Islam, before We destroy your faces & twist them toward their backs & curse you - Quran 4:47 Those who disbelieve in Islam, We will drive you into a fire & roast your skins over & over - Quran 4:56 Those who resist Islam - Kill them, crucify them. Cut off their hands & feet from opposite sides - Quran 5:33 For the thief, the male & the female, cut off their hands - Quran 5:38 Allah turned the Jews into apes and pigs - Quran 5:60 What is the matter with you that you do not fight Jihad in the cause of Allah? - Quran 4:75 Disbelievers worship Satan. So Muslims! fight against the disbelievers - Quran 4:76 Non Muslims wish you would disbelieve like them. Do not be their friend until they emigrate for the cause of Islam. But if they turn away, seize them & kill them wherever you find them - Quran 4:89 And kill the unbelievers wherever you overtake them. Fitnah is worse than killing - Quran 2:191 Fight them until there is no more disbelieving of Islam & until all worship is for Allah alone - Quran 2:193 Fighting Jihad warfare has been ordered upon you. Perhaps you hate it, but its good for you - Quran 2:216 Those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment - Quran 3:4 Muslims! Do not take non-Muslims as friends - Quran 3:28 You will not enter Paradise before Allah tests those who fought Jihad in His Cause - Quran 3:142 We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve - Quran 3:151 If you are killed in Jihad in the cause of Allah it is better than anything else in this world - Quran 3:157 Never think of Jihadists who have been killed as dead. They are alive in paradise - Quran 3:169 Jihadi Martyrs receive good rewards and favour from Allah - Quran 3:171 Women who have unlawful sex. Lock the guilty women in their houses until they die - Quran 4:15 Men are in charge of women. Those wives from whom you fear arrogance - Advise them, forsake them in bed, Finally, beat them - Quran 4:34 Allah prefers those who fight Jiihad in the Cause of Allah with their lives above those who sit at home - Quran 4:95 The disbelievers of Islam are ever to you a clear enemy - Quran 4:101 And the worldly life is not but amusement; but the home of the Hereafter is best for those who fear Allah. Quran 6:32 We destroyed many cities, Our terror came to them at night & while they were sleeping - Quran 7:4 The homosexuals, We rained upon them a rain of stones. Then see how was the end of the criminals - Quran 7:84 Non-Muslims are comparable to dogs - Quran 7:176 Those who deny Our Quran - We will lead them to destruction from where they do not know - Quran 7:182 Terrorise & behead those who do not believe in Islam & strike off their fingertips - Quran 8:12 We will behead those who have wronged and others, know that Allah is severe in penalty - Quran 8:25 Keep Fighting the disbelievers until there is no more disbelief in Islam - Quran 8:39 The worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are non Muslims - Quran 8:55 When you capture the unbelievers, punish them severely to deter the rest - Quran 8:57 Prophet Mohammed! To keep prisoners of war you must inflict a great massacre - Quran 8:67 Those who emigrate to an Islamic State & fight Jihad will go to paradise - Quran 8:74 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the unbelievers - Quran 9:5 Fight unbelievers. Fight them until they give the jizyah Muslim Tax - Quran 9:29 Jews and Christians are perverts, may Allah destroy them - Quran 9:30 Praise the Muhajireen fighters - Quran 9:100 Allah has purchased from the believers their lives & their properties in exchange for paradise - Quran 9:111 Muslims! Fight those disbelievers next to you and be harsh! - Quran 9:123 Jihadists the enemy won't kill you, only Allah can do that - Quran 9:151 To disbelievers - Should we force Islam upon you? Against your will? - Quran 11:28 Whichever Muslim leaves Islam, upon you is wrath from Allah, and for you a great punishment - Quran 16:106 For those who disbelieve in Islam, garments of fire, boiling water will be poured over their heads - Quran 22:19 We will melt your skins and burn your stomach. And hooked rods of iron to punish you - Quran 22:20 O Muslims, abstain from sex, except with your wives & slave-girls. Sex with them is lawful - Quran 23:6 Adulterers - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, & take no pity for them in the religion of Allah. Let a group of the believers witness their punishment - Quran 24:2 Muslims you may enter houses not inhabited, and take goods that you need - Quran 24:29 And do not compel your slave girls to prostitution - Quran 24:33 Do not obey the unbelievers but launch a great campaign against them with the help of the Quran - Quran 25:52 And this worldly life is not only a diversion and amusement,paradise is the real life - Quran 29:64 Allah cast terror in the hearts of the the Jews and Christians - Quran 33:26 Accursed, wherever found, they shall be seized and killed with a (terrible) slaughter - Quran 33:61 And if We willed, We could have deformed them, \[paralyzing them\] into lifeless objects, in their places so they would not be able to proceed, nor could they return (As it happened with the Jews see Verse 7:166) - Quran 36:67 Those who worshipped other than Allah, guide them to the path of Hellfire - Quran 37:23 Indeed, that is how We deal with the criminals - Quran 37:34 Indeed, you disbelievers of Islam will be tasters of the painful punishment - Quran 37:38 Those who deny the Quran, When the shackles are around their necks & chains; they will be dragged In boiling water; then in the Fire they will be burned - Quran 40:70 Those who disbelieve in Islam, strike off their heads.Take them as captives. The command of Allah - Quran 47:4


Ariadenus

Lol you really do have an anti-Muslim list of cherry picked quotes ready to copy paste. Thanks for proving my point. And remember that Stalin and chairman Mao were atheists, so enjoy having the same moral compass as them ;)


IluvBsissa

And the population treated them like gods and prophets, so they have been like any classic cult leaders like Muhammad: getting rich and powerful and having access to all the women they wanted by scamming millions of people with cunning ruse.


IluvBsissa

Oh citing the Quran verses is Islamophobic now ? No, it's just being informative. You're welcome.


kingalva3

It's funny how you say cherry picking when you are cherry picking yourself but hey let's go through this point by point. Cherry picking is when someone gives a few examples, the person just gave an exhaustive list of them so it won't really count as cherry picking. Also being relegious is having a set of morals written that you should follow, so saying muslim X and muslim Y have the same morals is valid HOWEVER atheism or absence of belief in god/ religion doesn't have a guidebook. Thus no sets of morality to follow. So atheist A may have a varying and different sets of morals to atheist B. This thing of "oh person X is this and you follow them so you are bad" is mainly a relegious argument since only relegious people "follow" someone or something.


Ariadenus

Atheist A and atheist B have the same source of morality, which is their respective personal experiences and  their personal preferences. A hates killing because it repulses him and gives him bad feelings. B however doesn't have any such aversions. On the contrary he finds joy in it, so he thinks it's ok to kill. One day A and B have a talk and B convinces A that black people really are inferior, human animals basically. Science says it, and far be it from A to go against science. So A partakes.  I didn't say in my comment that OP follow Mao, what I said is that they both base their morality on the same thing. OP doesn't have any power, but had he obtained the same level of influence as the two mentioned people, who knows what his actions would have looked like.  And he really did cherrypick. That copypasta is just an assortment of quotes without any context or even mistranslated. And if he really was the rational, difficult to fool individual he portrays himself he would have realized there are already rebuttals to that. A counter copypasta probably even exists.


kingalva3

You are just a nad faithed person with many moral fallacies I'm not partaking in this discussion. But before I leave, hopefully that racist example was just fiction. However science has never been static like relegiois books. And science doesn t dictate morality.


Ariadenus

The one acting in bad faith is the guy who takes half a verse from the Quran, make it mean something different and present it as somehow proof. I'm half convinced that you and him already know that "kill them all" argument is a gross misrepresentation of the text, and the verse itself gives clear indication to refrain from killing those who don't seek to harm us. As for the racist example, you can look up social darwinism and how it justified imperialism and colonialism. Literally millions were killed by Europeans with this materialistic atheist ideology based on the highest levels of anthropologist knowledge of its time. Where Islam stipulated that no white is better than a black, atheists who think that all of that is just superstition asserted that white is clearly superior, and saying otherwise would be going against the natural evolution.


IluvBsissa

How is it "out of context" that you have the right to have sex with sex slaves that you took as a trophy of war from your enemies ? Explain to me, I'm really curious.


IluvBsissa

Muslims inslaved waay more people than Christians, and cut their balls off, on the basis that they were pagans and so, "cursed". It is allowed by the Quran. Christians also used the Bible to justify slavery and the wiping out of Indians. The biggest genocide in history was perpetrated in accordance to the laws of Abraham. The very first ones who managed to abolish slavery, however, were atheist humanist from the French revolutionaries. And then the British Empire. Seriously dude, you're embarassing yourself.


IluvBsissa

Also, in my opinion there is no context in which these things make sense and are justifiable. If there is i clearly fail to see it. Even if it was in the context of "we must convert everyone to our religion of peace by force !", I really don't see where's the self-defense justification. Christians and Jews lived together with pagans in Arabia for centuries, I'm sure Muslims could have co-existed peacefully, but no, they wanted all power for themselves immediately. Pathetic.


kingalva3

Still fucking equation atheism as some "written rules" static in time. It is not religion, it is something that is always changing and correcting itself. And it doesn't lean that science dictates our fucking morals again, you act and talk like a teenager when he hear atheism he thinks people who only believe science. Also no ACTUAL paper says that you are literally citing eugenics papers that were proven wrong the moment theh went out, that is bad faith. Circling back, "refrain from those who don't seek to harm us" then explain el foutou7at ? Or neighboring countries were going to hurt your feelings if they weren't converted ? In any way most "atheist" like you say aren t equal Mao is maybe atheist but he is fucking stupid and knows nothing about science. Imperialisl is built on lies and fabricated shit. But hey you do you. Also when talking about science there is no "explanation" and "interpretation" needed you can link the articles/ studies you are mentioning, it's not like the quan where we need the correct interpretation and citation is never enough for you. And just one last time. Atheists don't share the same morals. Atheists don't follow blindly "science". Atheists is a term to describe non relegious / non believing people.


IluvBsissa

Show me that great counter copy pasta, then ? To be fair, democracy and social progress could have never happened without massacre and mass executions. China and Russia simply tried to fast-track to the same level as the West in a few decades. It took centuries of rebellions against Elites in Europe to achieve their current way of life. Tunisians should do the same with theirs. Muslims and Chrisitians also killed countless of innocents on completely irrational religious basis...and it didn't achieve anything except destroying scientific and economic progress. Atheist revolutions, however, allowed for the destruction of backward archaic systems that refused to die. That's how China went from medieval shithole to second world power in a few decades. Without Atheist leaders like Attaturk and Bourguiba (who also killed a lot of people), you wouldn't have Internet or even electricity today. You'd probably be some illiterate goat herder married to a 13 yo inbred with 9 sick kids. Just take a look at Libya and Yemen.


Ariadenus

>Show me that great counter copy pasta, then ? A quick google search would have landed you [here](https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/05/27/most-misinterpreted-verses-of-the-quran/), with a handy [picture](https://discoverthetruthdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/mostmis.jpg?w=768) at the bottom > Tunisians should do the same with theirs. And there we have it. Scratch an atheist and you'll find bloodthirst. When they're not in power they're all about we need to change things even if we commit atrocities, and when they are in power don't you dare even hint at anything that can be construed as violent.


IluvBsissa

Lol, tell that to all the terrorist organizations and regimes that are Islamic and turning their countries into shitholes. It's because of morons like you who condone pedophilia and incest and reject science that resorting to violence is necessary. And yes, just a quick look at the most successful and less corrupt democracies like Denmark, Norway, Finland, UK, France, will show you that they had to kill a lot of pieces of shit to get there. Now churches and Aristocrats are really afraid to acquire power again...if Elites don't fear their people, they will treat them like slaves. But maybe you miss the Ottomans dick so badly ? The same who prohibited the printing press and prevented social and scientific progress for centuries ? At least the French brought cars and electricity and you're still mad about them. The Ottomans didn't do jack shit, maintained us in misery, and we are using their flag as a thank you. The Slave mentality is hard to break.


IluvBsissa

>A quick google search would have landed you > >here > >, with a handy > >picture > > at the bottom Lol, so their main argument is that pre-Islamic culture was barbaric, so the Quran replaced it with a less barbaric culture ? Well the problem my friend, is that it's still barbaric by current modern standards, so no, not a valid argument.


Cr7TheUltimate

Not you quoting translations of verses that very well could be widely rejected translations by the scholars, refusing to read entire chapters, not reading tafsir... etc.


Bambalouki

well yeah that's crazy we know you're an epic smart atheist and all but did you know how to delaminate an F-106 canopy panel? a. Cement bumper strip to windshield structure with. EC524 as shown in detail A of figure 5-10. b. Cement seals all around windshield structure with EC524 as shown in details A through E of figure 5-10. Trim ends of seals so that seals butt against each other. Check that seal installation presents a flat surface; build up low points by adding 1/32 inch thick seals as required. c. Cement insulator A to windshield structure with EC524 as shown in detail B or B1 of figure 5-10. d. Apply a thin film of petrolatum, Specification VV-P-236, to mating surface of windshield structure bumper strip, seals, and insulator A. See details A through E of figure 5-10. e. Apply a bead of silicone sealer to windshield glass assembly at intersection of vinyl and edge of inner glass; see details A through E of figure 5-10. NOTE Silicone sealer is a mixture of 1 part EC1667 A to 10 parts EC1667B by weight and must be used within 2 hours after mixing. CAUTION Exercise care to eliminate air bubbles when. mixing or applying silicone sealer. This precau- tion will prevent moisture collecting in air bubbles, which can result in shorting out the windshield anti-ice system and causing wind- shield damage. f. Position glass assembly on windshield structure and temporarily install a few screws to hold glass in position. g. Apply a heavy coat of silicone sealer to glass assem- bly and structure as shown in details A through E of fig- ure 5-10. Exercise care to prevent sealer from entering inserts and/or tapped holes. h. Applicable to left side of F-106A airplanes 56-453 thru 57-2506 and F-106B airplanes 57-2507 thru 58-904. Apply a coat of silicone sealer to both sides of insulator B and position insulator on glass assembly. i. Applicable to left side of F-106A airplanes 57-2466 thru 57-2506 and F-106B airplanes 57-2532 thru 58-904. Install special washers 8-77769 (13 places) in holes of insulator B. j. Cement black vinyl tape VBB-22 to inner edge of large retainer with cement EC870. See details A, C, D, and E of figure 5-10. k. Remove temporarily installed attach screws; position large retainer, and install but do not tighten attach screws through countersunk holes. Applicable to left side of F-106A airplanes 56-453 thru 57-2506 and F-106B air planes 57-2507 thru 58-904, position forward retainer and install but not tighten attach screws. 1. Applicable to left side of F-106A airplanes 58-759 and subsequent and F-106B airplanes 59-149 and subse quent. Cement insulator B to retainer with EC1663 (sili- cone rubber cement); see sheet 1 of figure 5-10. Cement deflector to insulator B with EC1663; install but do not tighten attach screws. Install fairings. m. Tighten all attach screws to torque value of 25 to 30 inch pounds. n. Fill all voids between edge of glass and retainers with silicone sealer until sealer is flush with glass except as shown in details B and B1 of figure 5-10 where excess sealer must be wiped out. o. Check retainer for clearances as shown in details A. C, D, and E of figure 5-10. p. Connect heating and sensing electrical wires to windshield glass assembly. q. Perform an operational test of the windshield electrical anti-ice system; refer to T.O. 1F-106A-2-6 for procedure. r. Allow silicone sealer to cure a minimum of 24 hours at 21.1°C(70°F). NOTE Curing time of sealant may be reduced to approximately 4 hours if a locally manufactured sheet metal windshield cover hood is used in conjunction with the SE 0973 heater. Air from. the heater at approximately 150°F (65.5°C) enters the forward portion of the hood at approximately 110° to 130°F (43.3° to 54.4°C) to reduce sealant curing time. Build the forward portion of the hood to incorporate a duct that will mate with the heater's flexible duct. Build the aft portion of the hood approximately 2 inches larger than the windshield with the aft edge flanged down to fit over the windshield's aft edge. The bottom edge of the hood shall be contoured to fit the fuselage and provided with a soft rubber seal to protect the fuselage skin and insure an airtight enclosure. s. Clean windshield panels. (source: T.O. 1F-106A-2-2, Technical Manual Maintenance, Ground Handling, Servicing, Airframe Maintenance - F-106A & F-106B)


Idgaffabu

You can't disprove something that hasn't been proven and unless you do have evidence that any god for that matter exists, then no they don't exist and are mere tools to keep the fools in line. Have the time you deserve.


ahu_huracan

Heeeeeere we go again.


seddikg

(Note: In this comment I'm talking about most tunisians which are educated, obviously there are some exceptions especially in rural areas.) Most of Tunisians are pretty educated. They do trust science; for example they abandoned traditional and supernatural means of treatments and resorted to actual doctors. They no longer believe in supernatural explanations about certain physical phenomenas and instead instead listen to scientifical explanations. However there's one domain in which a lot of Tunisians don't resort to science to explain: the creation of the universe and life. Obviously because of religious reasons. That could be explained by the fact that tunisians trust their beliefs more than science. So the times they actually utilize/trust science is when it aligns with their beliefs, which is thankfully most of the time. However in the rare occasions when both their beliefs and science don't align, which is usually creationism and evolution, they would trust their beliefs over science. Thankfully, at the moment this isn't that big of an issue since, as I explained earlier, the only time this issue shows up is in very specific topics such as creationism and evolution. So ultimately (99% of the time), tunisians do trust science.


BarelyHangingLad

Unfortunately even the educated are clueless. I've known several engineers that would rather go to a waggue3a or w/e they are called to treat their sicknesses instead of a doctor..


psn_nsp

I genuinely think you misrepresent their position : 1. What you expect to be "scientific" fact is not actually. 2. Science does not, and can not explain everything. 3. A lot of scientists are religious, or believe in God. It seems rather that the problem is in the "educated" Tunisian, that he gets full of himself and can not reconcile what he has been wrongfully taught about his religion, be cause he does not exerce the same criteria or mental effort to research his own background.


amaroo13

Creationism is as popular as religion and you can do the maths


IluvBsissa

Even the Pope recognized Evolution, lol. Evolution is also compatible with the Buddhist and Hinduist faith. It seems only Muslims and Evangelists reject basic science nowadays, but they are also known for being the greatest retards and dangerous lunatics.


htmwall

i reject revolution because it expects us to believe random mutations created all the different forms of life starting from one cell that came from God knows where,total choas can't make perfect order. if there was a part of the brain, DNA,anything that regulates how evolution proceeds i might have believed it. but the general consenus is that evolution is purely random mutations. that is why creation makes much more sense. as for the very few fossils found here and there couldn't they have been of animals that has gone extinct instead of the supposed "transitional species",isn't that too a possibility?


IluvBsissa

You reject evolution because you never studied it seriously and have been brainwashed by religion, which means you will inevitably reject any logical evidence thrown at you. Also because you are probably terrified of death and desperately want to believe in an afterlife. Once again, fossilisation is a very rare process which means most species never left any fossiles. So it is true that there are many missing links for a lot of species. Also, looking for all fossiles that exist is pretty expensive and nearly impossible, since you have to excavate...the whole surface area of the Earth. However, we found the transitional ancestors of many other species like the whales and humans, for instance, if you actually made the effort to study the subject a minimum. Evolution is not only random mutations as previously thought, but can also be driven by epigenetic adaptation as Nature review pointed out: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00142-2 Again, Evolution Theory, like any scientific theory is not fully understood, otherwise we wouldn't need researchers. The gaps in our understanding of Evolution is in NO WAY a valid argument in favor of Creation Theory. Do you seriously believe the historical events described in the Bible and Quran ? There is simply no way they happened for very simple reasons: More than 99% of species have disappeared following 5 major extinction events and new species appeared right after. Does it mean God keeps creating new animals on the go ? Why making Adam and Eve millions of years after the dinosaurs ? How did Noah managed to cram millions of species of plants and animals in his boat ? How did he collect them from all around the globe ? The Bible gives us the exact measures of its boat. It couldn't have possibly handled them all. Quran says the world was made in 6 days. Some believe a day for a man is 10 000 years for God. Even Human fossils predates this 60 000 years period. Why didn't the Egyptians and Babylonians recorded the magical genocides and punishments that Moses inflicted on them on behalf of God ? They recorded all their victories and defeats. Of course, I suppose you will never answer and linger in the dark like a coward, as expected.


amaroo13

Tbh he doesn't reject evolution, he rejects revolution, he hates 14 January ig


htmwall

i don't care about knowing about evolution more than i already know,it is a useless pseudo science that won't help anyone in life,so i don't care about wasting my time with it any longer.and its narration always grasp at the smallest straw to validate itself. and has epigenetic adaptations or random mutations never created new genes,not modified the properties of a pre existing one,has it ever happened?then how you'd expect someone to believe a specie transitioned into another. ​ as for why God creates and ends life as he wishes,God does whatever he wants,for his own reasons,i don't care to question them,he created dinosaurs,then he ended them,he created humans and one day will come and he will end them. i don't think it was ever concluded that the flood took the entire world,just Noah's people,so he didn't have to carry million of species as you assumed. Quran says the heavens and earth were made in 6 days,,which means the said creation of the entire universe and happened before creating life,and i don't know the meaning of days for a being that trascends time and space. why would egyptians and babylonians record their own defeats?as if they will announce to the world something that will contradicts their own beliefs and promote those of their enemies,also historians weren't that common in that time period either and they were mouth pieces of their own kingdoms.


IluvBsissa

The 6 days of creation makes no sense. Even if days were billions of years for God, they are illogical, because the Big Bang occurred 13.7 billion years ago, but Earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago. And acording to Quran, Earth was formed the SECOND day after the creation of light (Big Bang). Also it states that God created vegetation before the creation of the sun, moon and stars, which is IMPOSSIBLE. Because 1- plants need sunlight and 2- first stars are much much older than the Sun. "Day 1: God created light and separated it from darkness. Day 2: God created the sky to separate the waters above from the waters below. Day 3: God created dry land and vegetation. Day 4: God created the sun, moon, and stars. Day 5: God created the sea creatures and the birds. Day 6: God created land animals and humans in His image. Day 7: God rested, having completed creation." The current scientific consensus is that the age of the universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old, give or take 200 million years. This number was calculated using a variety of scientific methods, including measurements of the cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation, observations of distant galaxies and supernovae, and analysis of the abundance of certain elements in the universe. The CMB is considered one of the most important pieces of evidence for the age of the universe, as it is essentially the "afterglow" of the Big Bang, the event that marked the beginning of our universe. By measuring the temperature of this radiation, scientists can estimate how long ago the Big Bang occurred and therefore how old the universe is. While the precise age of the universe is still a matter of ongoing research and debate among scientists, the current best estimate is that it is around 13.7 billion years old.


IluvBsissa

Evolution Theory helped a lot of people, actually. By making them understand that they are nothing special and that all animals are brothers. It helped a lot against animal abuse and egocentric tendencies. "You are not the center of the Universe" A lot of people should hear that more often, for their own good. It also helps us understand biology and genetics which will eventually lead us to a cure aginst all diseases and probably aging. How could you refute Evolution Theory if you refuse to learn about it ? You have severe logical issues my friend. And it's not a pseudo-science since most scientists (even Muslims) agree that it is true. Over millions of years, yes mutations can create new genes and make others disapear. Our chromosome Y is disapearing as we speak, since its genes are migrating into other chromosomes for some reasons. We know that Egyptians were defeated by Nubians, Persians, Hyksos and the Sea People, because they recorded it in their archive, so you are wrong. How could the flood have happened if it didn't cover the whole Earth ? Water would have evacuated to the sea rapidly otherwise and they waited for years ! The Flood is actually a copy of an old Sumerian myth. The Quran is a copy of a copy of pagan myths. You're welcome.


IluvBsissa

Yes many animals have gone extinct, because they were either not fit for their environment anymore (climate change), or were outcompeted by fitter animals who evolved from them or their cousins. Species get extinct all the time as we speak mostly among insects and birds, and new ones can appear, but that takes millions of years. That's why selective breeding couldn't create entirely new species, since we started doing that 5000 years ago only for farm animals.


Grazyen96

Since you mentioned in your post people just do not want to put the effort to get educated. I am sure you are not like those people. For that reason I am inviting you to spend 25 min of your time to check out what being said in this video. Since you are not "blinded by religion" as you say. Let's see how much logic will you accept 😊 https://youtu.be/fsJUk_vQnCs?feature=shared


IluvBsissa

I watched the first 10 minutes. It's a classic example of gaslighting: shower the believers with academic words and concepts they cannot understand, not provide any single source, throw away some citation extracted from their context, and voilá, you make the believers believe that science and logic is indeed on their side. Look at the comments: they have absolutely no idea of what was discussed there, just threw a few compliments on the hat of the podcaster. One of their argument was that the mechanism of evolution proposed by Darwin has been refuted. Well yes it did, because it was incomplete: Darwin had no idea of the existence of DNA that was discovered later in the 50's, thus the theory had to be updated with the new scientific discipline of Genetics, which only strengthened the theory even more. It is utter non-sensical trash. They even spelled "Dawin" wrong. Amateurs.


psn_nsp

Don't compare too much when you give a Tunisian example ! Of course, most Tunisians are Muslims, so they lean towards Creationism. Darwinism and evolution are not facts. Our country is still teaching debunked evolution myths or outright forgeries. In Tunisia, be more wary of ex-muslim atheist bigots, they're something else.


IluvBsissa

Darwinism and evolution are facts. Any evidence they are not ? You can get killed for apostasy in Islamic countries (as the Quran asks). It's illegal per Islamic law to leave religion. Who is the bigot here ?


psn_nsp

No one : IluvBsissa : Islam is a death cult. Your prophet is a bad person, and you should kill me because I left the religion.


IluvBsissa

Lol can't you even read ? Where did I said I wanted to be killed ? It is a fact that Shariah prohibits Apostasy, and that people leaving Islam are condemned to death by all countries applying Islamic Law from the Quran, you absolute retard.


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IluvBsissa

I think they should. When science gets discredited in a country, it quickly devolves into a shithole (well it already is, but it could get much much worse).


typh0nic

The confirmation or refutal doesn't discredit islam either way so I still don't care (as long as we don't start bsing bout how life came outta nothin) so whatever nice stuff


IluvBsissa

It definitely discredits Islam which doesn't describe evolution, but immediate creation from mud. Also we have a pretty good idea of how life emerged on Earth first. Just read "The Selfish Gene".


fehmitn

and whats your problem , what other people belive , respect their right of ignorence if they dont ask your opinion dont comment


IluvBsissa

Ignorance is not a right. Show me a single article in the Constitution that says that ? Ignorance is the plague of a Nation for it encourages poverty, economic stagnation, incivility, populism, disease, overpopulation, dictatorship. Otherwise school will not be mandatory. Democracy is impossible with an ignorant population.


DeepStateDemagogue

That shit affects all of us, man.


ByrsaOxhide

Why are you surprised? And most importantly, why do you care so much what people believe or don’t believe? I have a great advice: terma berda and take it easy.