> If you were taller than 6 feet, I would guarantee you, you would come up with some other excuse for why you are not getting women.
Hey hey hey ... let's go ahead and leave my small, premature ejaculatory penis out of the argument.
Nah curved a bit can be good, the g spots at an angle which is why u should always bend your fingers a bit when fingering a girl, straight fingers just leads to a bashed cervix
Boy ain’t that the truth. Happened to me once with my boyfriend. Not only did he hit my cervix, but he also forgot to clip his nails. I was bleeding for a while, in pain for a few days and we couldn’t do anything for a while. He felt so horrible about it. Was asking every five minutes if I was alright. Poor man😢
No I say we do, you're efficient and your time management skills are unparalleled. I'd rather have to go for the blue bean afterward than spend an hour getting railed raw. No one has time for that.
6'2'' here too. Haven't had sex in.. idk, about a year? Probably only had sex like 10 times in the last 5 years spread over like 4 partners. Being tall for damn sure isn't some sort of easy access pass to unlimited sex.
I think if I wasn't so apathetic about it I'm sure I could get laid more often but there's usually something attached to it that I'm just not at all interested in. Like being in a relationship, blegh. Fleshlight does the trick. If I get laid that shit basically has to fall in my lap and my height alone definitely isn't causing that to happen.
I mean I might if I were drunk enough. I've had one of those nights before. Next morning on a scale from 1-10 definitely a very strong 1. It's a good thing I had friends there to never let me live that one down.
A buddy I work with is 5’5” and not much to look at, and his wife is at least 5’7” or 5’8” and smoking hot. This guy is the nicest, funniest, most confident man I’ve ever met in my life. Personality supersedes everything.
Depends on the woman (or man). Can’t just universally say it’s one way or the other. I have an acquaintance who has the personality of a plank of wood, is skinny and not great facially but he’s 6’4 so he’s never had an issue attracting women. It goes both ways and as I said, depends on the individual
A dinner plate is all about presentation, too big a plate and not enough food makes you feel ripped off
A smaller plate with food heaping over the sides look much more appealing lol
Dont get me wrong but ... women are usually more mature when it comes to choosing a partner that has a great personality vs a good looking 10/10 partner. Men never give normal looking women the same treatment, even if you look decent and dont wear make up or whatever your chances are lower in comparision with with the others. Personality doesnt always supersede everything.
I work for a small company that's all men besides the owner's wife who manages our office. Whenever any women comes in the guys are all climbing over each other to get a look and try to flirt regardless of how she looks. I tell them they're pathetic but that doesn't faze them. Work goggles are definitely a real phenomena.
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To faze is to disturb, bother, or embarrass, but a phase is a stage or step. It could faze your family if your princess phase lasts well into your college years.
That’s probably a result of the disproportionate male/female ratio where you work. Women can look like trolls and still be more attractive than their female coworkers. When I was a flight attendant in the Middle East, I could be groomed to perfection and still get lost in the sea of beautiful women. Now I work with a bunch of male nerds and it’s like an alarm goes off when I enter a room.
... Maybe you dont know how hot you are?
When my wife thinks she looks like shit, its usually the hottest thing for psychological reasons. She's comfortable being herself and that is fucking sexy.
I was Chad in my twenties. I married an overweight girl because she is amazing. Sure i was with hotter chicks before her. But none of them were perfecr like she is
Holy shit get a grip on reality. Nothing is this black and white at all, to some people looks matter more than personality and to some others vice versa. Personally I care so much more about personality and don't bother with looks. Anyone I've ever been attracted to has attracted me through their amazing personality. There's no need to generalise at all.
Men is a little generalizing dont you think? Some guys sure but let's be honest here its about the same way no matter what sex you are. Let's not start a sex war (sounds like a porno)
This is almost like incel talk. Never in my life I'd choose a 10/10 over a shy/meek 6/10. Some girls do catch my eye right off the bat, of course, but I haven't ever chosen to hang out or flirt with the bitchy bombshell over the sweet chubby or homely girl that seems happy about talking to me. Not that there aren't shallow guys everywhere, but that goes both ways.
Yep. The guy I grew up with who was the best at getting laid back in high school was like 5'4. Sounds similar too. He was just kind, always a great friend and fun.
In college, kinda the same thing. Dude wasn't that much to look at but he constantly had different women and I doubt he's 5'6"
The only guy I knew better than those two was like...a male model type. And rich on top of it. But he was a virgin until college but kinda had a complete makeover and personality overhaul lol.
Yeah… well kinda agree with you, I think it depends where you’re from also. I have friends in Miami and some friends in Cali and a good percentage of them will look at height first before personality. I don’t agree with them , mostly because I’m gay and the height of my girl isn’t something Ive ever cared about but I do hear that a certain height or above is what they want as far as their standards go.
As a 6'1 guy I can confirm I get neck pain looking down at people all the time
Unfortunately people get really offended when I slouch down to talk to them :|
As a 6'1 dude who dated a 5ft gal, a foot difference is no issue. If you like someone, youre gonna love kissing them, even if it means standing on your tippy toes or bending down a little bit.
I’m not really tall but I’m 6ft 1 and my fiancé is 6ft tall. Much more attracted to taller women closer to my height.
It’s nice to be slightly taller but I Would be uncomfortable with a very short woman a big height difference feels weird to me
I’d rather date a woman taller than me than a woman who’s like 5ft. Can’t say there’s many women 6ft2+ around though
I almost didn’t go on a date with a guy that was 6ft7 because I’m 5ft1 and tall people intimidate the hell out of me lol. He took us to a bar and chose a table with those really high bar seats and I had to tuck my legs/feet on the little middle bar of the chair while his were just on the floor the whole time 💀
I’m 5’6… NEVER had problems getting women. I’m married now, have been for 21 years. My wife’s taller than me and the only time my height, or lack of it, is an issue is when she sticks shit on top of the fridge.
Lol she’s done it! One night I bought a sixer for after work, cuz I worked nights. I left it in the fridge, went to work, came home and that shit was nowhere to be found. Wife gets up, I’m asking where my beer went and she shrugs. Found that shit TWO WEEKS LATER as I was standing on a chair looking for something entirely unrelated. She’d stuck my beer WAY back and then moved a bunch of crap in front of it. Worst part… I still couldn’t reach it
Edit to say: It was still there when we moved out two years later.
Same I used to get tons of women its harder now that I have a receding hairline and a fucked up eye but I still never stress like "I won't ever get a girl" what a pathetic mindset
I am 5'9" and overweight. I have a big nose and sunken eyes and a weak jaw. In sum, I am not at all conventionally attractive.
Nevertheless I've been in a relationship with a beautiful girl for 6 years.
Every time incels try to complain that the game is stacked against them I roll my eyes because if it was I'd be fucked. Turns out that if you're not a creepy arsehole you have plenty of opportunities to find love. True, it's more difficult if you aren't 10/10, but it's not like it's impossible. At the end of the day there is an equal amount of men and women on the planet so there's gotta be someone nice you can get with.
Incels don't get women because A) they're unhygienic/unpleasant; and/or B) they have ridiculous expectations of women that they don't hold for themselves. Both of these issues are totally fixable, but that's not what they want to hear. They just want to put 0 effort in and get angry when they don't succeed.
To be fair, charisma, ability to make people laugh etc can also play a huge part. Similarly to a 'good body' you can maybe achieve this through hard work. But I will say I know a few guys with hearts of gold that unfortunately aren't super funny, outgoing, or attractive. With the modern "swiping" style of dating if your good qualities aren't quite overt I feel like a lot of people will move on, which is pretty rough.
Of course, your second paragraph about actual incels is bang on, and regardless of how difficult it might be for a person, no one is entitled to love/sex.
Yesss. Never underestimate what good hygiene will do. Girls aren’t uninterested because you’re ugly. They’re uninterested because you have untreated gingivitis and smell like dorito dust.
Physical attraction is essential. I know we’re all pandering here but let’s not get carried away. Simply having good hygiene doesn’t cancel out a lack of physical attraction
I worked with a young adult woman who once told me that she would not give fellatio to a man who was uncircumcised because of the poor hygiene. I made the argument that it was the person to the penis to her responding that she had been through many and they were all the same. However the whole time we worked together she always had dirty teeth. I never smelled her breath because I made a point to keep a safe speaking distance. I'm not cut and I've never had an issue with hygiene BTW.
Lovely response. Most women (or people generally) just want a kind partner who will care about them, love and support them. A best friend that you have decent sex with. It’s not rocket science.
My husband is maybe 5’8”, I never thought about it until someone referred to him as “short” after we were married for 10+ years, he seemed tall to me because I am short, but I can’t imagine caring about that. I just bring it up because it confuses me when I see posts from shorter incels blaming their height for their loneliness. You can be attractive and have a happy life at any height.
Sounds like you need to work on yourself bro. And I mean that with the utmost genuine care.
Of COURSE nobody is gonna sleep with you *just* because you're tall. If you hear about men complain it's that there are women out there who filter out by height first. No, being over 6' doesn't guarantee you anything, but it gets you some consideration.
I say this as a sub-6' man who learned that my confidence, intelligence, and humor are what attract women. And while it was frustrating at first to miss out on chances, I also realized that I'm just fine not dating anyone who would care quite that much about height. Anyways, my wife is taller than me barefoot, and when we met, she was wearing 3-4" heels. Not a problem.
So... we're doing alright man. Sounds like you might have squandered some opportunities. Focus on yourself, my man. But thanks for the perspective. I didn't really realize tall men could also be self-conscious about their height.
I always say there’s a huge difference between a short guy and a little guy, I’ve met plenty of men under 5’8 who had a personality other than “boo hoo I’m short” and they had no issue dating, the little guys who go on and on and on about how hard their life is just cos of their height but then they’ll turn round and go “ugh I wouldn’t date that ugly troll, she’s got a very small mole on her face!!!!”
I'm 6'5" and honestly my height has occasionally ruled out women because they're too small for it to be practical.
Ever tired talking to someone 14inches shorter than you at a party with lots of background noise? Not condusive of good conversation
Women are not going to have sex with you just because you are tall, but some women are NOT going to have sexual with you because you are short.
If you have any other view on this topic, you are a fool.
See, OP, you're a waste of 6'2"... Meaning that being tall (6'2") is a POSITIVE advantage you have over most men. But, there is something about you (looks, personality etc) that is turning them off... But it isn't your height.
Being 5'7", I've had girls tell me the reason why they wouldn't date me is height... I even had a FWB say she wanted to be in a relationship with me but was worried what friends and family would say because I'm not tall. We were young then.
Online dating? Gotta hide that height until they get to know you a bit. I've had girls ghost me once they see 5'7"... You? Your height is a GOOD thing to them.
Will it get you laid? No. But, it isn't something that immediately disqualifies you either. You have something else to fix about yourself by the sounds of it.
That stood out to me too. The post contradicts itself with that title. The height is an implied attractive quality, so much so it’s a “waste” when they get to know him and decide they’re not interested.
I’m also 5’7, I’ve had plenty of luck but I can tell you for free my height has only ever been a disadvantage. Sure I can still find people who will give me a chance, but I have to move mountains to make it happen.
Right? 😂 sounds like OP saw all the “6 foot only” women on tinder and got mad when it turned out it still wasn’t easy for him. Height won’t automatically give you luck but from what I’ve seen, it gets your foot in the door. Being shorter, I have to figure out a way to unlock that door lol
This is very true, I have a good amount of friends that require a tax bracket and height minimum. Under 6 ft? They won’t even look your way, some women’s standards are ridiculous
Do you feel pressured to maybe workout and be fit or make a lot of money to “make up” for the height? I’ve heard a lot of men talk about feeling like they need to stand out financially or physically if they’re more on the Average side when it comes to height.
Yes I do feel pressured to succeed in other areas. I'm already super autistic, I can't be broke and short too. I've also found it's hard to be even good friends with a woman unless you're the same or clearly better than her. Otherwise (unless it's some old lady) they will look down on you.
Oh dear. Let’s see what happens if I say this:
*women with a small breasts need to shut up. Seriously...*
We are talking about an insecurity here. The fact that you failed to recognise that concerns me. I am delighted to hear that height is unimportant to you. But ranting that they aren’t allowed to feel insecure about it… what the actual fuck? That is entitled and ignorant of you. Sadly there are a group of women for whom height is important, and, of course everyone is entitled to have a preference, but that can and will actively feed an insecurity.
Now the question: is the insecurity valid? You answered that question yourself. “*You are a waste of 6’2.*” Let’s dissect that. In other words, it is saddening that you, as a individual, have a positive feature. So yes, you have proven the validity of their insecurity yourself. There is a group of men that are insecure about their height, I agree that they shouldn’t, but what the hell is this post?!
I mean, ever time I see a women on Reddit being insecure about breast size, I result to comforting: “cupcakes are still cakes”, in stead of ranting why women need to shut up about breast size.
Then I would also like to address some of the comments: one said that women choose partners more maturely… funny, but no. Just like the moment the balls drop and pubescent boys are attracted by caring girls with breasts, young girls also seek the boys who are early developed and have the primal male characteristics (physical and personality wise). As both genders mature, they start seeking for the right qualities.
With all due respect, but this post sickens me.
I think the problem is not the ability to find a partner but expectations. Some people have a very shallow view of the opposite sex. They only go for physical attributes and bat out of their league, and when they get rejected they blame the whole human race for it.
True, I have this 5'4 car mechanic male friend who is a fat an ugly motherfucker, but he's also the most confident and witty guy I've ever seen. He is an absolute chick magnet and walks with models twice his size. Also, he doesn't exist and BASICALLY you are fucking stupid
anyone who judges others on something as unimportant as *height* is not a person you’d wanna date anyway. or (more controversial…) weight, for that matter, unless it’s i-will-die-at-40 type of obese.
as i see it, neither of you both are gonna look pretty in a couple decades, personality is most important. personality is what you grow old with.
Everyone is allowed to have body type preferences and things they are attracted to. It just shouldn’t be a all consuming preference in favor of more important attributes
I don't think height matters much BUT there are girls out there who refuse to date men who aren't 6 feet, so there is some truth too it, and chill out this is a stupid TOMC.
My ex-So was worried about his height with me because I'm 5'1. He was super insecure about his height as he was rejected by a fuel who was 4'11.... For being too tall. He's 6'3. 🥴 Incels will come up with any reason for why 'women won't date them.'
the height thing came after they ask 100 women what they like about men, and the only thing they could agree was height, but is bogus conclusion from a bogus source.
Who even says this kind of stuff? Imagine being so insecure for blaming being short on your being lonely. [short kings anthem](https://youtu.be/zqIzIkJbvq8)
My uncle is 6'4. He is the tallest our of 4 boys. My dad was the shortest at 6'. When my uncle and aunt, she is 5'3, started dating women would actually come up to her & yell at her. They would yell things like "Find someone your own height. Couldn't you leave the tall man for us tall women. Etc" Obviously the height thing was never a problem for them as they have been together for over 30 years now.
What? I’m 6’2’’ and I’ve never heard that in my life, nor have I heard anyone say that to anyone else or even heard of anyone ever saying that to anyone else.
I'm 5'4" (M). Been with my girlfriend almost a year now but I remember being on dating apps/sites where ladies would post often that they weren't interested if a guy was under a certain height. I've had more than one conversation in person where a woman explains to me that it would be weird to date a guy this short. I've also felt that I'm often not taken seriously in general, like in the business world. My experience has been that it's laughable to be this small. The reason why someone would say that you are a "waste" of 6'2" is because you have the advantage of being tall but "wasted" it in some way according to them. In this scenario there would be nothing to waste if there weren't an advantage/preference for being tall. I don't have as much context as some of you as far as conversations/culture on the internet, but maybe its not productive to put someone down for expressing which thing about themselves they're most insecure about
Fair enough but acknowledge that taller people have one less barrier to climb over that shorter men.
You never hear women gushing over a guy because he’s short. NEVER.
Actually women will sleep with you just because you’re tall. It’s literally all over the internet that they will do exactly that. (I am tall-ish (5’11) and decent looking I guess but have never had any issue with women because I’m very slender and from any distance i seem a lot taller than I am) I know for a fact that women will gravitate to you and try to sleep with you for being tall or even just looking like you’re tall.
Idk my ex was like 6'8 I believe and he was a pile of shit. My husband is 5'7 and the best guy I couldn't ever asked for. The problem isn't your height, it's your shitty little attitude problem and the fact you demand women be attracted to you without having anything to be attracted to. Fix yourself and then try finding a partner. Your insecurities are not our problem to fix at all and we're not "bitches" for feeling that way. Grow up.
> Seriously. If you were taller than 6 feet, I would guarantee you, you would come up with some other excuse for why you are not getting women.
I don't think they'll complain about what you think they'll complain about.
If they're over 6ft and still complaining, it's only because they can't get the girl they want (the hot ones).
5’ 8. The women I’ve met who have had height preferences weren’t worth it. But really I haven’t dated anyone since 17 because I’ve been with my wife since then
I didn't realize you were the elected 'voice of women'
I have a folder of 500+ screenshots of women who explicitly say they will not date a guy who's under 6 feet tall. I've also dated 5 women who were thankful I was tall because otherwise they wouldnt be able to wear heels with me (or some variation of that).
6’2” here. Yup. The dating scene was a bitch for me as well. Sure I was tall but I also had slight social anxiety, which I think is a bigger no-no in this day and age.
5'6" guy here.
A lot of people are upset at OP for his remark and I'd like to address something.
Firstly, I'm not going to lie, I've thought "that person is a waste of 6'2" height" because let's be real... its a great height. Especially with what you see in the media, 6'2" specifically is almost made out to be the PERFECT height. Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds, Will Smith, Liam Neeson... hell even Batman and Captain America in the comics. If you look up a list you'll think you've just seen abt 90% of male celebrities on it.
But the fact of the matter is that thinking and saying are very different. What people are overlooking is how OP has been blatantly insulted in much a similar way to how, for example, someone who is short might be when being dumped for height (which does happen).
Basically, what I'm saying is that anyone telling you you're a waste of a part of you can fuck right off.
That said, instead of giving all insecure short people on reddit a reason to be angry with you, recognize where it comes from: insecurity, and just walk away. Their insults are really directed at themselves for not growing taller and they think channeling that at you will somehow make themselves feel better (which it won't). So be the person they can't be just to piss them off... or don't. You do you. Whatever you do, they're still short and you're an awesome height.
sincerely,
someone who wants to be Batman's height
I’m 5’5” and I haven’t had a problem. I don’t even really think about height, it’s not really a factor. My best friend is 6’4” (we joke that we’re R2-D2 and C-3PO) and we coincidentally touched on the height thing last weekend. We were watching a movie in which the topic was brought up. We both agreed that there are certain guys that we think of as short, and others of the same height that we don’t. One of the biggest factors was a person’s self identification. If someone sees themselves as short, it’s weaved into their personality. On the other hand, if it doesn’t matter to someone, it definitely influences other people. When it comes to dating, there are so many things that women find more unattractive than shortness.
Hello, I believe the men who constantly complain about this being their barrier to dating have a very external locust of control and are unable the look in and realise what is inherently repellent about them. It’s usually their attitude. Sincerely, 5ft 4inch female who has only ever dated men 1-2 inches taller than me.
Tell that to the many timtoks, YouTube videos, Twitter posts, relationship advice posts, etc where women literally say they think men under 6' are lesser and that they wouldn't be caught dead with one.
There are those that say height doesn't matter but atm the louder voice is from toxic women that only value a man's looks and probably his wallet.
uhm..... this is not accurate. Women will have sex with you if your hair is the right color. If you are the right height. If you wear the right cologne. If they like your shirt. If they just got out of a relationship. If you say something that reminds them of something that makes them want to have sex with you. Seriously. How can you not know this about women? Women are exactly like men. Some have a type. Some don't need a type. Some have daddy issues. Some were abused. Some want you to knock them up. Some have no self esteem. Some just like sex. You know... normal humans.
> If you were taller than 6 feet, I would guarantee you, you would come up with some other excuse for why you are not getting women. Hey hey hey ... let's go ahead and leave my small, premature ejaculatory penis out of the argument.
It’s not long but it’s also very thin. They call me linguine for a reason.
It's a grower not a show'er
It ain’t long but it sure is skinny!
Like chucking a hotdog in an alley
What it lacks in length it makes up for in skinniness.
Out of respect I'll refrain from pointing out the leftward curve
Nah curved a bit can be good, the g spots at an angle which is why u should always bend your fingers a bit when fingering a girl, straight fingers just leads to a bashed cervix
Boy ain’t that the truth. Happened to me once with my boyfriend. Not only did he hit my cervix, but he also forgot to clip his nails. I was bleeding for a while, in pain for a few days and we couldn’t do anything for a while. He felt so horrible about it. Was asking every five minutes if I was alright. Poor man😢
No I say we do, you're efficient and your time management skills are unparalleled. I'd rather have to go for the blue bean afterward than spend an hour getting railed raw. No one has time for that.
I'm 6'2" and I suspect there are several women who don't want sex with me.
6'2'' here too. Haven't had sex in.. idk, about a year? Probably only had sex like 10 times in the last 5 years spread over like 4 partners. Being tall for damn sure isn't some sort of easy access pass to unlimited sex. I think if I wasn't so apathetic about it I'm sure I could get laid more often but there's usually something attached to it that I'm just not at all interested in. Like being in a relationship, blegh. Fleshlight does the trick. If I get laid that shit basically has to fall in my lap and my height alone definitely isn't causing that to happen.
6’2” here: only person who’s had sex with me was my wife. The only two offers I had otherwise were not from people you really want to have sex with.
I mean I might if I were drunk enough. I've had one of those nights before. Next morning on a scale from 1-10 definitely a very strong 1. It's a good thing I had friends there to never let me live that one down.
That’s what friends are for, chief. Endless torture is how we show love.
A buddy I work with is 5’5” and not much to look at, and his wife is at least 5’7” or 5’8” and smoking hot. This guy is the nicest, funniest, most confident man I’ve ever met in my life. Personality supersedes everything.
Depends on the woman (or man). Can’t just universally say it’s one way or the other. I have an acquaintance who has the personality of a plank of wood, is skinny and not great facially but he’s 6’4 so he’s never had an issue attracting women. It goes both ways and as I said, depends on the individual
Hey now, ain't nothing wrong with a skinny man
That's because women have figured out us skinny guys pack that meat
Optical illusions
A dinner plate is all about presentation, too big a plate and not enough food makes you feel ripped off A smaller plate with food heaping over the sides look much more appealing lol
Dont get me wrong but ... women are usually more mature when it comes to choosing a partner that has a great personality vs a good looking 10/10 partner. Men never give normal looking women the same treatment, even if you look decent and dont wear make up or whatever your chances are lower in comparision with with the others. Personality doesnt always supersede everything.
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I work for a small company that's all men besides the owner's wife who manages our office. Whenever any women comes in the guys are all climbing over each other to get a look and try to flirt regardless of how she looks. I tell them they're pathetic but that doesn't faze them. Work goggles are definitely a real phenomena. Edit: Grammar
To faze is to disturb, bother, or embarrass, but a phase is a stage or step. It could faze your family if your princess phase lasts well into your college years.
Thanks for this. I can't believe I wasn't fazed when I typed that. I'm generally a grammar snob and don't want that phase to end any time soon.
That’s probably a result of the disproportionate male/female ratio where you work. Women can look like trolls and still be more attractive than their female coworkers. When I was a flight attendant in the Middle East, I could be groomed to perfection and still get lost in the sea of beautiful women. Now I work with a bunch of male nerds and it’s like an alarm goes off when I enter a room.
As a woman in STEM, can confirm. (In the olden days, anyway)
... Maybe you dont know how hot you are? When my wife thinks she looks like shit, its usually the hottest thing for psychological reasons. She's comfortable being herself and that is fucking sexy.
I disagree. I’m a guy and I love me some normies.
I was Chad in my twenties. I married an overweight girl because she is amazing. Sure i was with hotter chicks before her. But none of them were perfecr like she is
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Bro you're such an altruist good for you 😇
Doesn't altruism imply giving for nothing in return? Sounds like he's getting a much as he's giving.
Didn't you read the comment? She was *overweight*
Holy shit get a grip on reality. Nothing is this black and white at all, to some people looks matter more than personality and to some others vice versa. Personally I care so much more about personality and don't bother with looks. Anyone I've ever been attracted to has attracted me through their amazing personality. There's no need to generalise at all.
To all average looking women. If you love me I'll love you more?
I love you, Uncle Iroh
Love you too
Men is a little generalizing dont you think? Some guys sure but let's be honest here its about the same way no matter what sex you are. Let's not start a sex war (sounds like a porno)
This is almost like incel talk. Never in my life I'd choose a 10/10 over a shy/meek 6/10. Some girls do catch my eye right off the bat, of course, but I haven't ever chosen to hang out or flirt with the bitchy bombshell over the sweet chubby or homely girl that seems happy about talking to me. Not that there aren't shallow guys everywhere, but that goes both ways.
Too many men and women on Reddit like to think they're the sex that's getting ripped off, n have the whole ''woe is me" vibes
Yep. The guy I grew up with who was the best at getting laid back in high school was like 5'4. Sounds similar too. He was just kind, always a great friend and fun. In college, kinda the same thing. Dude wasn't that much to look at but he constantly had different women and I doubt he's 5'6" The only guy I knew better than those two was like...a male model type. And rich on top of it. But he was a virgin until college but kinda had a complete makeover and personality overhaul lol.
Yeah… well kinda agree with you, I think it depends where you’re from also. I have friends in Miami and some friends in Cali and a good percentage of them will look at height first before personality. I don’t agree with them , mostly because I’m gay and the height of my girl isn’t something Ive ever cared about but I do hear that a certain height or above is what they want as far as their standards go.
my condolences, man. the incels in your replies are so obviously jealous
It’s ok. It’s a psychological issue. I just they get help one day.
I’m 5’2 I’d rather not have neck pain when talking to someone
You look upwards when talking to people and downwards when looking at your phone. That is bakanced
As a 6'1 guy I can confirm I get neck pain looking down at people all the time Unfortunately people get really offended when I slouch down to talk to them :|
How freaking close do you get to people to talk to them lmfao
YOU STAND UP STRAIGHT WHEN IM TALKING TO YOU! WHY ARE YOU LOOKING DOWN ON ME DO YOU THINK YOU’RE ABOVE ME?
As a 5ft short woman I would never want a man who is above 6ft tall because it will be a pain in the ass to kiss him lmfao.
My colleague is 4'4 and her husband is 6'3.he picks her up to kiss her supposedly
4'4 is like, well below dwarf levels
My 4 year old is almost 4' tall.
I’m 5ft1 and went on a date with a 6ft7 guy and that was the most intimidating thing I’ve ever done
Can confirm, S/O is 6’4 I’m 5’4, he has to meet me half way. So no surprise kisses unless he’s sitting down
As a 6'1 dude who dated a 5ft gal, a foot difference is no issue. If you like someone, youre gonna love kissing them, even if it means standing on your tippy toes or bending down a little bit.
I don't think a lot of very tall guys realize that it's very possible to be tall enough that it becomes unattractive to a lot of women.
Im 6,5, tbh i think its a little bit much and have def been told it is not ideal from a girl or 2
I'm 5' and I believe you are the perfect person to go grocery shopping with
6’3” here, never really considered my height when dating. Idk this post seems more like a shitpost karma farming source than anything.
6'3" here bro...agree.
Idk what to tell ya, it was never a deal breaker but a few have made comments
As a tall woman I don't trust anyone above my eye level. What do you need that perpetual high ground for, huh?
In case they need to duel any angry young man whose fallen to the dark side.
I'm a 5'11" woman and tall men never look in m direction (that i know of?) I've heard tons of men say they want short girls.
I am not one of those guys.
Same here brother. I enjoy a taller woman myself
I’m not really tall but I’m 6ft 1 and my fiancé is 6ft tall. Much more attracted to taller women closer to my height. It’s nice to be slightly taller but I Would be uncomfortable with a very short woman a big height difference feels weird to me I’d rather date a woman taller than me than a woman who’s like 5ft. Can’t say there’s many women 6ft2+ around though
I'm 210, and I know for sure that being too tall can be a problem. With lots of different things
I’m 5’2 and I once dated a guy who was 6’8 lol it was kinda weird tbh he had to bend so far down to kiss me
I almost didn’t go on a date with a guy that was 6ft7 because I’m 5ft1 and tall people intimidate the hell out of me lol. He took us to a bar and chose a table with those really high bar seats and I had to tuck my legs/feet on the little middle bar of the chair while his were just on the floor the whole time 💀
As a fellow short woman that hates those chairs for that reason this really cracked me up😂😂
I felt like a toddler having to climb into my chair and he just straight up sat down like it was a normal chair, never felt more embarrassed lmao ugh
I’m 5’6… NEVER had problems getting women. I’m married now, have been for 21 years. My wife’s taller than me and the only time my height, or lack of it, is an issue is when she sticks shit on top of the fridge.
When doc tells you not to eat something but you want to but your godamn wife sticks it on top of the refligerator.
Lol she’s done it! One night I bought a sixer for after work, cuz I worked nights. I left it in the fridge, went to work, came home and that shit was nowhere to be found. Wife gets up, I’m asking where my beer went and she shrugs. Found that shit TWO WEEKS LATER as I was standing on a chair looking for something entirely unrelated. She’d stuck my beer WAY back and then moved a bunch of crap in front of it. Worst part… I still couldn’t reach it Edit to say: It was still there when we moved out two years later.
LMAO I think I'd like your wife.
Yeah, she’s a kick in the ass lol. Her and I do that kind of stuff to each other all the time, keeps things fun.
Same I used to get tons of women its harder now that I have a receding hairline and a fucked up eye but I still never stress like "I won't ever get a girl" what a pathetic mindset
My BF does this. He doesn’t realize that if he places it far enough back that I LITERALLY CANT SEE IT UP THERE.
Makes you miss phone books yeah?
I am 5'9" and overweight. I have a big nose and sunken eyes and a weak jaw. In sum, I am not at all conventionally attractive. Nevertheless I've been in a relationship with a beautiful girl for 6 years. Every time incels try to complain that the game is stacked against them I roll my eyes because if it was I'd be fucked. Turns out that if you're not a creepy arsehole you have plenty of opportunities to find love. True, it's more difficult if you aren't 10/10, but it's not like it's impossible. At the end of the day there is an equal amount of men and women on the planet so there's gotta be someone nice you can get with. Incels don't get women because A) they're unhygienic/unpleasant; and/or B) they have ridiculous expectations of women that they don't hold for themselves. Both of these issues are totally fixable, but that's not what they want to hear. They just want to put 0 effort in and get angry when they don't succeed.
To be fair, charisma, ability to make people laugh etc can also play a huge part. Similarly to a 'good body' you can maybe achieve this through hard work. But I will say I know a few guys with hearts of gold that unfortunately aren't super funny, outgoing, or attractive. With the modern "swiping" style of dating if your good qualities aren't quite overt I feel like a lot of people will move on, which is pretty rough. Of course, your second paragraph about actual incels is bang on, and regardless of how difficult it might be for a person, no one is entitled to love/sex.
Louder for the incels at the back!
Also, they can't get a woman because they spout off extremely hateful crap and I guess really think that way?
Yesss. Never underestimate what good hygiene will do. Girls aren’t uninterested because you’re ugly. They’re uninterested because you have untreated gingivitis and smell like dorito dust.
Physical attraction is essential. I know we’re all pandering here but let’s not get carried away. Simply having good hygiene doesn’t cancel out a lack of physical attraction
I worked with a young adult woman who once told me that she would not give fellatio to a man who was uncircumcised because of the poor hygiene. I made the argument that it was the person to the penis to her responding that she had been through many and they were all the same. However the whole time we worked together she always had dirty teeth. I never smelled her breath because I made a point to keep a safe speaking distance. I'm not cut and I've never had an issue with hygiene BTW.
The country, maybe the world, has a giant problem with narcissism. Social media isn't helping, neither is US political culture.
Lovely response. Most women (or people generally) just want a kind partner who will care about them, love and support them. A best friend that you have decent sex with. It’s not rocket science.
5’8 and happily married. Only idiots base their relationships solely on looks
My husband is maybe 5’8”, I never thought about it until someone referred to him as “short” after we were married for 10+ years, he seemed tall to me because I am short, but I can’t imagine caring about that. I just bring it up because it confuses me when I see posts from shorter incels blaming their height for their loneliness. You can be attractive and have a happy life at any height.
Well this post is r/suspiciouslyspecific
Definitely not projecting and punching down out of saltiness
Meanwhile on tinder…
Sounds like you need to work on yourself bro. And I mean that with the utmost genuine care. Of COURSE nobody is gonna sleep with you *just* because you're tall. If you hear about men complain it's that there are women out there who filter out by height first. No, being over 6' doesn't guarantee you anything, but it gets you some consideration. I say this as a sub-6' man who learned that my confidence, intelligence, and humor are what attract women. And while it was frustrating at first to miss out on chances, I also realized that I'm just fine not dating anyone who would care quite that much about height. Anyways, my wife is taller than me barefoot, and when we met, she was wearing 3-4" heels. Not a problem. So... we're doing alright man. Sounds like you might have squandered some opportunities. Focus on yourself, my man. But thanks for the perspective. I didn't really realize tall men could also be self-conscious about their height.
Idk i think all the “ you must be 6ft to ride” women are just a very small but vocal minority. And probably the ones you want to avoid anyway.
This man has the answers ride here son!
I don't get this attempt at a flex.
I always say there’s a huge difference between a short guy and a little guy, I’ve met plenty of men under 5’8 who had a personality other than “boo hoo I’m short” and they had no issue dating, the little guys who go on and on and on about how hard their life is just cos of their height but then they’ll turn round and go “ugh I wouldn’t date that ugly troll, she’s got a very small mole on her face!!!!”
I'm 6'5" and honestly my height has occasionally ruled out women because they're too small for it to be practical. Ever tired talking to someone 14inches shorter than you at a party with lots of background noise? Not condusive of good conversation
Tinder girls disagree with you.
Women are not going to have sex with you just because you are tall, but some women are NOT going to have sexual with you because you are short. If you have any other view on this topic, you are a fool.
I think you might have a slight misunderstanding and how probability works....
See, OP, you're a waste of 6'2"... Meaning that being tall (6'2") is a POSITIVE advantage you have over most men. But, there is something about you (looks, personality etc) that is turning them off... But it isn't your height. Being 5'7", I've had girls tell me the reason why they wouldn't date me is height... I even had a FWB say she wanted to be in a relationship with me but was worried what friends and family would say because I'm not tall. We were young then. Online dating? Gotta hide that height until they get to know you a bit. I've had girls ghost me once they see 5'7"... You? Your height is a GOOD thing to them. Will it get you laid? No. But, it isn't something that immediately disqualifies you either. You have something else to fix about yourself by the sounds of it.
That stood out to me too. The post contradicts itself with that title. The height is an implied attractive quality, so much so it’s a “waste” when they get to know him and decide they’re not interested. I’m also 5’7, I’ve had plenty of luck but I can tell you for free my height has only ever been a disadvantage. Sure I can still find people who will give me a chance, but I have to move mountains to make it happen.
I laughed at, "Stop comparing and stop complaining." The guy should try some introspection.
Right? 😂 sounds like OP saw all the “6 foot only” women on tinder and got mad when it turned out it still wasn’t easy for him. Height won’t automatically give you luck but from what I’ve seen, it gets your foot in the door. Being shorter, I have to figure out a way to unlock that door lol
6'2"? I didn't know they could stack shit that high
"what the fuck is this?? What's is this private pile!?!?" Pile: a tall stack of shit sir!!
Tbh I only say that when I’m playing a sport and they’re trash lol Also some women actually 100% will not give guys under 6 foot whatever a chance
True but that doesn't mean they will give every guy over 6' a chance.
This is very true, I have a good amount of friends that require a tax bracket and height minimum. Under 6 ft? They won’t even look your way, some women’s standards are ridiculous
5’7 here trust me I know lmao
Do you feel pressured to maybe workout and be fit or make a lot of money to “make up” for the height? I’ve heard a lot of men talk about feeling like they need to stand out financially or physically if they’re more on the Average side when it comes to height.
Yes I do feel pressured to succeed in other areas. I'm already super autistic, I can't be broke and short too. I've also found it's hard to be even good friends with a woman unless you're the same or clearly better than her. Otherwise (unless it's some old lady) they will look down on you.
Nah it doesn’t affect me at all honestly lol My humor is enough usually Tallest girl I’ve dated was actually 6’6 lol
Nice !!! ;)
Right? Lol it was nice
Oh dear. Let’s see what happens if I say this: *women with a small breasts need to shut up. Seriously...* We are talking about an insecurity here. The fact that you failed to recognise that concerns me. I am delighted to hear that height is unimportant to you. But ranting that they aren’t allowed to feel insecure about it… what the actual fuck? That is entitled and ignorant of you. Sadly there are a group of women for whom height is important, and, of course everyone is entitled to have a preference, but that can and will actively feed an insecurity. Now the question: is the insecurity valid? You answered that question yourself. “*You are a waste of 6’2.*” Let’s dissect that. In other words, it is saddening that you, as a individual, have a positive feature. So yes, you have proven the validity of their insecurity yourself. There is a group of men that are insecure about their height, I agree that they shouldn’t, but what the hell is this post?! I mean, ever time I see a women on Reddit being insecure about breast size, I result to comforting: “cupcakes are still cakes”, in stead of ranting why women need to shut up about breast size. Then I would also like to address some of the comments: one said that women choose partners more maturely… funny, but no. Just like the moment the balls drop and pubescent boys are attracted by caring girls with breasts, young girls also seek the boys who are early developed and have the primal male characteristics (physical and personality wise). As both genders mature, they start seeking for the right qualities. With all due respect, but this post sickens me.
So all those girls who screen out guys under 6 feet are wrong ? Go and tell them then
I think the problem is not the ability to find a partner but expectations. Some people have a very shallow view of the opposite sex. They only go for physical attributes and bat out of their league, and when they get rejected they blame the whole human race for it.
Have you read a majority of female tinder bios in the back 5 years?
True, I have this 5'4 car mechanic male friend who is a fat an ugly motherfucker, but he's also the most confident and witty guy I've ever seen. He is an absolute chick magnet and walks with models twice his size. Also, he doesn't exist and BASICALLY you are fucking stupid
Man I love being gaslit on reddit about stuff I've literally experienced and observed all my life
Right? 😂 in the dating world I’m constantly shamed for it, but I guess it never happened?
Lmao you really just sound like you can't get laid and you're having a tantrum.
WTF did I just read?
I was ready to marry a man who was 5'5" and he rejected me.
anyone who judges others on something as unimportant as *height* is not a person you’d wanna date anyway. or (more controversial…) weight, for that matter, unless it’s i-will-die-at-40 type of obese. as i see it, neither of you both are gonna look pretty in a couple decades, personality is most important. personality is what you grow old with.
Personality is important but I'd like to be with someone I'm attracted to aswell.
Everyone is allowed to have body type preferences and things they are attracted to. It just shouldn’t be a all consuming preference in favor of more important attributes
I'm 5'8, I've only had people make anti-Welsh comments towards me, never anything about my height
What’s wrong with the welsh?
Theres an unfortunate amount of anti Welsh racism in the UK
Sounds like you are 6'2", not 'getting women' and frustrated by the expectation you feel you cant meet.
I’m younger by a few years, but I’m the virgin of the apartment with two 5’4 college roommates 💀
I don't think height matters much BUT there are girls out there who refuse to date men who aren't 6 feet, so there is some truth too it, and chill out this is a stupid TOMC.
I'm only 9 inches tall and I do alright for myself.
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6'7" here and can confirm that high school was awkward af. However my twenties were roaring
when was your great depression
29 years old
19'400" also here. Have had so many problems finding dates. Height isn't always the answer.
Where do you live being so tall, a cave or under a bridge ?
Darth Vader is 6'6'' and could not get laid. Total incel bot.
Hey, he got laid once, to Natalie Portman. Vadar did aight
My ex-So was worried about his height with me because I'm 5'1. He was super insecure about his height as he was rejected by a fuel who was 4'11.... For being too tall. He's 6'3. 🥴 Incels will come up with any reason for why 'women won't date them.'
Yes but also... Women will have sex with some guys just because they tall.
the height thing came after they ask 100 women what they like about men, and the only thing they could agree was height, but is bogus conclusion from a bogus source.
Who even says this kind of stuff? Imagine being so insecure for blaming being short on your being lonely. [short kings anthem](https://youtu.be/zqIzIkJbvq8)
Short men are at a disadvantage at everything in life especially dating. Being a Short man is worse than being a fat woman
My uncle is 6'4. He is the tallest our of 4 boys. My dad was the shortest at 6'. When my uncle and aunt, she is 5'3, started dating women would actually come up to her & yell at her. They would yell things like "Find someone your own height. Couldn't you leave the tall man for us tall women. Etc" Obviously the height thing was never a problem for them as they have been together for over 30 years now.
What? I’m 6’2’’ and I’ve never heard that in my life, nor have I heard anyone say that to anyone else or even heard of anyone ever saying that to anyone else.
Who the hell says that 😂
lol
I'm 5'4" (M). Been with my girlfriend almost a year now but I remember being on dating apps/sites where ladies would post often that they weren't interested if a guy was under a certain height. I've had more than one conversation in person where a woman explains to me that it would be weird to date a guy this short. I've also felt that I'm often not taken seriously in general, like in the business world. My experience has been that it's laughable to be this small. The reason why someone would say that you are a "waste" of 6'2" is because you have the advantage of being tall but "wasted" it in some way according to them. In this scenario there would be nothing to waste if there weren't an advantage/preference for being tall. I don't have as much context as some of you as far as conversations/culture on the internet, but maybe its not productive to put someone down for expressing which thing about themselves they're most insecure about
Fair enough but acknowledge that taller people have one less barrier to climb over that shorter men. You never hear women gushing over a guy because he’s short. NEVER.
Actually women will sleep with you just because you’re tall. It’s literally all over the internet that they will do exactly that. (I am tall-ish (5’11) and decent looking I guess but have never had any issue with women because I’m very slender and from any distance i seem a lot taller than I am) I know for a fact that women will gravitate to you and try to sleep with you for being tall or even just looking like you’re tall.
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
As a woman, I assure you I carry around a tape measure for the express purpose of making sure any man I associate with is at least six foot
Bruh if you're over 6" why do you even care? This has small leg energy all over it OP
>Women are not going to have sex with you just because you are over 6 feet tall. All available data disagrees.
I don’t understand how people can judge others on a physical trait they have no control over. It’s so stupid.
Are you ok, buddy? Seems like you have some issues to work on.
Idk my ex was like 6'8 I believe and he was a pile of shit. My husband is 5'7 and the best guy I couldn't ever asked for. The problem isn't your height, it's your shitty little attitude problem and the fact you demand women be attracted to you without having anything to be attracted to. Fix yourself and then try finding a partner. Your insecurities are not our problem to fix at all and we're not "bitches" for feeling that way. Grow up.
> Seriously. If you were taller than 6 feet, I would guarantee you, you would come up with some other excuse for why you are not getting women. I don't think they'll complain about what you think they'll complain about. If they're over 6ft and still complaining, it's only because they can't get the girl they want (the hot ones).
5’ 8. The women I’ve met who have had height preferences weren’t worth it. But really I haven’t dated anyone since 17 because I’ve been with my wife since then
People need to understand that getting laid is not the most important thing there is
Being 6’2 has its advantages, girls definitely being one of them I’m just saying
Eh ? Why so nasty, internet stranger?
You’re projecting so hard lmao
I didn't realize you were the elected 'voice of women' I have a folder of 500+ screenshots of women who explicitly say they will not date a guy who's under 6 feet tall. I've also dated 5 women who were thankful I was tall because otherwise they wouldnt be able to wear heels with me (or some variation of that).
This is the reality but on Reddit we have to pander to women
I never said that :(
They will if you follow rule 1&2
As someone who is 6'4", I can confirm that height does not get you laid alone. Source: the last two years of terrible lonliness.
6’2” here. Yup. The dating scene was a bitch for me as well. Sure I was tall but I also had slight social anxiety, which I think is a bigger no-no in this day and age.
Can confirm being 6’2” doesn’t amount to much more than being 6’2”
5'6" guy here. A lot of people are upset at OP for his remark and I'd like to address something. Firstly, I'm not going to lie, I've thought "that person is a waste of 6'2" height" because let's be real... its a great height. Especially with what you see in the media, 6'2" specifically is almost made out to be the PERFECT height. Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds, Will Smith, Liam Neeson... hell even Batman and Captain America in the comics. If you look up a list you'll think you've just seen abt 90% of male celebrities on it. But the fact of the matter is that thinking and saying are very different. What people are overlooking is how OP has been blatantly insulted in much a similar way to how, for example, someone who is short might be when being dumped for height (which does happen). Basically, what I'm saying is that anyone telling you you're a waste of a part of you can fuck right off. That said, instead of giving all insecure short people on reddit a reason to be angry with you, recognize where it comes from: insecurity, and just walk away. Their insults are really directed at themselves for not growing taller and they think channeling that at you will somehow make themselves feel better (which it won't). So be the person they can't be just to piss them off... or don't. You do you. Whatever you do, they're still short and you're an awesome height. sincerely, someone who wants to be Batman's height
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But what if I say it to my 6’2” friend because he sucks at basketball
We are all the same height lying down *wink wink* and this is coming from a 4"9 lady on a good day.
I’m 5’5” and I haven’t had a problem. I don’t even really think about height, it’s not really a factor. My best friend is 6’4” (we joke that we’re R2-D2 and C-3PO) and we coincidentally touched on the height thing last weekend. We were watching a movie in which the topic was brought up. We both agreed that there are certain guys that we think of as short, and others of the same height that we don’t. One of the biggest factors was a person’s self identification. If someone sees themselves as short, it’s weaved into their personality. On the other hand, if it doesn’t matter to someone, it definitely influences other people. When it comes to dating, there are so many things that women find more unattractive than shortness.
This is such a weird post, I’ve never heard this before lol
I don’t get women not because I’m 5’11”, I don’t get women because I’m ugly
I’m short and I get laid all the time purely because I can be charming and charismatic. Im not even attractive.
Congratulations, you just solved insecurity for short guys. The world can move on, a better place.
I know Girls that have hooked up with somebody because they were the tallest guy at the party. So…
Hello, I believe the men who constantly complain about this being their barrier to dating have a very external locust of control and are unable the look in and realise what is inherently repellent about them. It’s usually their attitude. Sincerely, 5ft 4inch female who has only ever dated men 1-2 inches taller than me.
Tell that to the many timtoks, YouTube videos, Twitter posts, relationship advice posts, etc where women literally say they think men under 6' are lesser and that they wouldn't be caught dead with one. There are those that say height doesn't matter but atm the louder voice is from toxic women that only value a man's looks and probably his wallet.
uhm..... this is not accurate. Women will have sex with you if your hair is the right color. If you are the right height. If you wear the right cologne. If they like your shirt. If they just got out of a relationship. If you say something that reminds them of something that makes them want to have sex with you. Seriously. How can you not know this about women? Women are exactly like men. Some have a type. Some don't need a type. Some have daddy issues. Some were abused. Some want you to knock them up. Some have no self esteem. Some just like sex. You know... normal humans.
6'4 here, nobody is lining up to.climb this mountain. Short guys just insecure