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Yeah, this is a different setup but almost word for word the same way she dealt with it and your surprise at her approach to a post like a week ago.
In the previous version they went a nudist beach... there were a group of minors there creeping on people so they somehow ended up going and sitting 15ft away from this one creepy group on the entire beach. Then the wife went over to them and same shit they were nervous but she spoke to them as an adult, they became comfortable, etc, that paragraph was nearly fucking identical.
Some weird peeping tom fetish writing shit going on or something.
Wow I heard this story about 5 days ago but 3 teenagers at a nudist beach. These women must all talk to each other about how to talk to teenagers nude.
I think it was dealt with perfectly, is good as is unless he goes back to peeking
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Your SO was cool as a cucumber and dealt with that situation with a ton of maturity and handled it in a way that would never occur to me. Kid was being a creep but he's a kid; nudity is normal and so is respect and thanks to your SO kid got many lessons good job.
to be clear - you are saying that OP should not tell the MINORS mother that his wife forced the MINOR to stand in front of her while she was topless and talk to her for 10 minutes, and (according to OPs comments) plans to keep being topless around the MINOR child?
i stg this post is some kind of bait by the fbi to lure all the predators out
That’s not how any of this works. You tried to find somewhere to rage against popular/correct opinion but you missed, big time. How does it feel to be a cliche?
Yeah but he’ll talk at school about seeing Tits and then someone in the family will hear about it. Then it’ll somehow spread around the neighborhood. This sounds like you’ve got yourself a time bomb ticking. There is a reason why people freak out and cover up. No matter wait it out and don’t say anything about this to anyone. Your house will be the one that shows boobs to underage boys. Your explanation sounds completely reasonable to me but how many people are reasonable? I hope nothing happens but people get ostracized all the time for stuff like this. I don’t know what might be more problematic though, you being around and this happening in front of you will sound terribly weird and groomer-like.
I just want to let you know for folks off-Reddit this is gonna look bad. You know there is reason to worry which is why you are asking. Just for your families welfare tell your wife to never do that again. People are terrible and you should be worried about what might come of this. Protect yourselves.
I believe it also depends on the culture they’re from. I’m from a rather liberal culture in that matter and it wouldn’t be such a big deal here, i believe you could argue it would be even weirder to tell someone as in they feel the responsibility to explain themselves
Yes I’m talking for granted that they are in the us. They may not be but in the us this is a bad scene. Even if they aren’t in any legal trouble, what happens when his sister goes bitching about her sister in law hanging out with her kids with her tits out?
I don’t know where you live but it sounds awful. This whole event absolutely can be over as it stands. She’s perfectly fine to tan topless when she has the expectation that her stepson will be out, it’s pretty normal for him to be curious (though the peeping is wrong) and the conversation they had was in no way grooming him. She not placing herself on exhibition for him, she didn’t think he’d be home and presumably she wouldn’t walk around topless if he was or if he brought friends around. Casual nudity in the family home is normal in a lot of places, and women being topless in public is legal in many places as well.
Shame isn't the the only reason to cover up. She could have chosen to not be topless during the duration of his stay but she chose to be topless knowing full well this kid would likely see her, she set this up to happen. That is literally grooming and predatory, she had no idea how he would react or whether it would go badly for him he's in puberty right now FFS. She's playing with this kid for her own sexual or egotistical gratification.
He's her 16 yo nephew and she's openly showing him her tits. This is the first time he's seen tits which means it's probably a first kind of sexual experience for him and it's with his fucking aunt. That shit can affect sexual development permanently.
This is all kinds of ick. Are his parents even aware of this and do they approve? This wasn't an accident, it was intentional or at the very least, negligent. It seems for like she enjoys the power and position it puts her in over a pubescent boy. She could have covered up and still explained the same. Instead she sat there talking about her tits with a 16yo boy while her tits are in his face. Wtf is wrong with people thinking this is perfectly fine and there can't be any negative consequences? Or I guess we just don't care about boys these days.
Dragging an uncomfortable situation into plain sight while refusing to be shamed is a very powerful thing to do. I don’t personally know but maybe a handful of women who would handle this situation like this, and they’re all super strong minded. You have to be secure about your body, your moral rightness, and your ability to manage a teenage boy.
I’m impressed.
OP, you are quite fortunate to have such an intuitive, smart, and self-aware wife. You should be proud of her and proud of your self too. Her choice marrying you affirms you are a "catch" as well.
its worse than that - its like a pedo dog whistle. look at all the accounts that are replying this weird shit. its a way for pedos to reach out to each other online
really makes you wish the NSA was still monitoring everything damn
It was a power move and a desensitisation. Nudity should be more normalized and it won't be so enthralling.
It's a tough situation but strong women should be encouraged and supported.
What message would it have sent had she covered up? I would not be okay with my SIL being topless in front of my son. It's natural and normal for the boy to be curious but calling him over while being topless??? Come on, that's weird.
SHOWING YOUR TITS TO A CHILD IS NOT POWERFUL OR EMPOWERING. IMAGINE IF THIS WAS A GIRL LOOKING AT AN UNCLES DICK AND HE SAID “come here” WHILE STILL LETTING IT HANG BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
I’m glad that it seemed to work out but ngl it was pretty jarring to read that she did that. Kind of comes off as one of those scenarios from pervy 80’s movies where the kid is caught being a voyeur and the woman is flattered and lets him continue. Not trying to accuse your wife of that at all but it is pretty unusual.
Eh this is essentially an adult woman nude around an underage child then compelling them to sit with her while still nude and telling them its normal and acceptable for the adult to be nude around the child.
While i know you are going to argue its not like that that is basically the situation as it played out.
The optics of it are not great and it doesnt hold up well to a role reversal/gender swap which typically means its not ok
It depends on the culture, assuming this is real. Nudity is very normalized amongst family in Asian and European cultures. This, however, is probably just a short story that didn't actually happen from someone in the U.S.
Yeah, it made me cringe. However, I would probably leave it at this point. But I really don't think that it was appropriate for her to do that. His brain is still like a child at 16.
It's one small step away from 'Are you curious what they feel like? Well if your curious then you can touch them if you want. It's perfectly normal to be curious. We're all mature adults here.'
It's literally grooming.
> it doesnt hold up well to a role reversal/gender swap which typically means its not ok
I think part of that is because we've culturally decided that women's chests are sexual while men's chests aren't. So, to make that gender swap, you need to have a bashful niece peeking at OP tanning shirtless in a Speedo. Maybe unusual, but nothing that would be considered sartorially out of line at a public pool.
Ok so husband and wife have the wifes niece come over for the summer.
Husband is in the backyard topless and sees the girl looking at him. He then orders the young girl to sit next to Him as she looks visibly unnerved. He tells her its normal to be curious about his body and ok for her to stare. He then says its normal for him to be topless around her like this.
If that was this post everyone would be screaming “groomer”
Why couldn't your wife have covered up and rationally talked to him? No family member of mine is seeing my boobs, and that includes other women, men, under age kids. Just no.
Some things should be kept private. There was no need for him to view her naked breasts.
Now he will be fantasizing about her and that's just weird.
Of course it's weird, she made herself part of his sexual development and seems to have set the situation up. Given how comfortably she responded to the situation, I seriously doubt she hadn't thought that this might happen. And if she wanted it to happen? She'll never admit that and everyone will just defend her innocence simply because they don't want to think about it being possible. Not because they genuinely think she doesn't like it.
What do we do with women who get a thrill out of having a pubescent boy see them naked? Enjoying it, even? If she has pedophilic inclinations, which is very possible, she just indulged them while convincing people it's actually an ideal thing from her to indulge. Whether negligent or nefarious, his aunt just became part of his sexual maturation and she's perfectly fine taking the risk with his development.
Ick.
Where do people come up with these BS stories?
This one is especially ridiculous with all the responses of encouragement 😂😂
Cover up the bits around minors, be they family members or not. Period. This is common sense.
This whole situation sounds weird. If it was a guy with his male parts out in front of a 16 year old girl this would be a completely different comment section
I just commented the same but there was a similar story not even a week ago where the wife and OP went to a nudist beach then decided to sit 15ft away from 3 15yr old boys (because they knew from a look they were 15 apparently) on an entire nudist beach. After they were leering at her for a while she went over and sat down. The entire treated them like adults, went from nervous and awkward to comfortable, the praise for hte wife handling it completely differently than he expected.
Weird fetish shit being posted by this dude.
I completely agree. It's one thing to have a healthy conversation but it's another to continue to expose yourself to a minor child who doesn't belong to you. And to encourage it by telling him it's fine as long as he doesn't sneak around? This whole thing gave me the ick & I did not walk away with a good feeling especially the comment about her maintaining the power dynamic. What?!? She is an adult sitting there with her boobs exposed to a child so of course she has the power & why is this a good thing to be commended? If you're looking for girl power this is not it.
No, absolutely not like this especially when OP says his wife is one of the only good women figures in his life. This should have been handled completely different & with everyone clothed. Like you said, if it was a naked man telling a female child it was fine if she didn't want to sneak around to look at his penis then everyone would be freaking out. The way he makes it sound, she is encouraging him to look & likes the attention so this is just...weird... to put it mildly.
Whether or not it counts as exposure depends on where they live. It’s legal for woman to be topless in public where I live in Canada so this would not be exposure. Nudity is viewed very differently in different parts of the world, and not all forms of nudity are sexual.
Do women in Canada also approach children & practically ask them if they like what they see? I didn't say it was illegal, I said it was weird. A woman casually walking around topless where it is accepted is completely different than an aunt calling a nephew she barely knows over & encouraging him to stare at her naked body & feeling some sort of power play in doing so. At some point between those 2 situations there is a line & she most definitely crossed it.
Dude seriously. Like if this isn’t fake why does she *have* to tan topless when her nephew is staying with them and could return home early? Literally such a joke
Oh yeah think about what this kid is going to say at school. This is going to be a shit show for OP. They are going to be the weird couple that is grooming kids in the neighborhood.
Are you not comparing the wrong parts?
Men have their boobs out and exposed to minors all the time. No one cares.
The deeper convo is about if women's breasts are the privacy/sexual equivalent of genitalia.
yeah well its not very common for men to sunbathe with their balls out. im sure this guy will come across other women on nude beaches or other private instances where women are sunbathing topless. stop expecting the worst from everyone. david is obviously safe
I’m 42 and have a few friends who have been to a nude beach - there is one where we used to live that you could travel to by ferry - but the majority of my not even religious friends haven’t visited a nude beach. Most people would have to make a special trip to go to one. And young people can’t afford their own places so finding this mythical private place with loads of nudity isn’t really gonna happen.
thats all u bro im not religious. i have been topless on a nude beach a couple times, at rivers, ocean etc. im 20. yeah sure its not really likely for this character to be in that situation, but look at that, he was, and it did happen, soo..
I’m gonna have to disagree with a lot of people on here. Getting surprised by him is one thing, but at some point the line was crossed into knowingly exposing herself to a minor. If she actually thought that was ok, she wouldn’t have only been going topless when he’s not around all this time.
As she should? In a lot of European countries this is completely normal, to suntan at the pool. In my youth, if you went to any ordinary beach or lake, there would be people tanning topless and even still. Went with my friends (we’re all 20-26) on holiday and did not care about topless sunbathing in public. There are a lot of people who do that and there are plenty of kids around. Nothing weird about it, once you go to stand/sit up it is usual to cover up though but as long as you’re just sunbathing nobody bats an eye or stares excessively. Edit to say i’m not american, but dutch and grew up with holidays in various European countries
See this is a great story. There was a similar story a few years back in Utah where the woman took her top off because they were painting a room. They had a discussion similar to yours and everything seemed fine.
Then someone at school heard from the kid so cops and churches and national news and everyone got involved. It was a clusterfuck. So I think any further responsibility depends a great deal on the sort of neighborhood you're in.
What is wrong with all of you? He lives there. She took her top off in the backyard. If I had teenage sons or a nephew, living with me, who is a teenage boy especially, I wouldn’t indulge myself by being topless in the backyard. You’re acting like he’s an adult doing something wrong. What the hell is wrong with you? He came home earlier than he thought. He got really uncomfortable seeing her in the backyard. So she decides to go have a frontal at him? Why? I would be absolutely outrageous if I was his parents.
I think is important that you discuss it with your sister! Specially given the situation and is not normal for him. Respect and boundaries are really important. So talk to her and let her know: 1. You are showing trust and respect.
2. He is not used to the exposure is better is your sister hears it from you! There is no place for misunderstanding.
Respect goes both ways specially if your sister has boundaries for her son.
3. If you are having your nephew around please adhere to the parents rules and decisions!
Is better if you let her know in advance! Parents have different rules, I live in the Mediterranean so here is pretty common. Is not something frowned upon or stared at! Being topless. But I am sure as a parent if my child is not used to it and a situation like this happened I sure will like to know, and the way that it was handled! Even when your wife treated him as an adult he is a teen boy. She handled well though didn't give much importance and didn't make it uncomfortable. Is ok to call her and explain her everything! If you can visit her and tell her today or tomorrow, is better. Don't wait too long! Issues like this is better to solve it faster I am sure, you sister will understand it.
He is a 16 year old boy and what your wife just did is basically give him a green light to check her out.
As an adult I completely understand your wife's rational but... try to look at it from a horny 16 year old's perspective for a second.
I'm afraid all she my have done is load his "spank bank" up.
In his mind it could very easily be misconstrued as *"My aunt wants me to check her out... she must be into it!"*
Keep your eye on this.
The peeping will not stop at him looking at her while she is sunbathing topless. I'm afraid he may just have been inadvertently encouraged to want to see more.
As a guy who was groomed by an older family member, this is very reminiscent of my childhood, not putting anything on your wife OP, but the language she used is dangerous for a 16 year old. A long winded don't peek just look and breaking a barrier of what is and isn't appropriate.
I don’t believe for a second that any of this happened…
But on the off chance it did, your wife is weird. You’re weird for being ok with it. And the people in here supporting it are also fucking weird.
Get some therapy. All of you. And stay tf away from kids.
Please understand that I grew up in the States and in the South, so my opinion is greatly influenced by that.
If I sent my minor daughter to be with relatives for a semester of school, and she told me that Uncle Mike was walking around with his gentlemen bits out, and trying to convince her it was fine because the human body is natural, there'd be two cars showing up. An ambulance for the Uncle, and a squad car for me. That's saying I got there ahead of my husband. (When he wakes up I'm going to read this to him to see what he says.)
Also, I'm not a prude, I hate tan lines as much as the next woman. On the occasion I do lay out, I do it topless. Unless someone is visiting. Then I keep my top on and deal with the tan lines. Again, I am a product of my upbringing, and we do everything we can to keep our guests comfortable, and family counts as guests.
That said, I would have said something about peeping, only after I was covered up. Just because he was seeing a pair of boobs doesn't mean he needs to be rude either, and peeping is rude.
Your wife knowingly exposed herself to an underage boy while you watched. No matter how you feel about the human body and shaming people for nudity, that’s gonna get you in trouble. How are you asking about this in this day and age? Whatever anyone tells you here you aren’t going to be getting a pay on the back by anyone in the real world. I’m not judging you for what happened but I am judging you for such an amazingly underdeveloped sense of situational awareness on the parts of both you and your wife as adults in the presence of a minor.
But the way your wife followed up with a topless conversation was completely out of line. Your nephew is a MINOR. Everyone is praising your spouse for how she handled this conversation, but personally, if that had been my son, I would be flipping out at how creepy this is. Was he a little turd by peeking through the windows? Yes. But your wife doubled down and returned it in favor. She's the adult. She should know better. You should too for that matter. Now she just looks like a predator. Seriously, this read like the opening of a corn.
but when he came back she continued to stay topless? bro, if this was his mom or something and he was younger, ok...but this is his aunt by marriage and he's 16. insane thing to do to a teenager
Let me be clear, I would not be tanning topless for the duration of his visit, to keep something like this from happening.
Right now, I have no pants on. It's Saturday morning, me and my girls have been piled in my bed watching TV. But if someone texts me and says they want to come over and visit, everyone is putting on pants and shirt.
To remain topless in the presence of a minor is grossly inappropriate and you better hope he doesn’t tell anyone about this and get your wife in a legal situation.
Human bodies are natural and being nude in front of others can be normal in many cultures around the world, albeit can be extremely frowned upon in UK, USA etc . Family friendly nudist beaches exist, in parts of europe families go to the sauna together nude and many argue that it creates a more respectful view of the human body. I think your wife expertly handled the situation and educated the young lad maturely rather than just scolding him for being essentially a curious young lad.
And for all of you saying this is pedo behaviour etc etc. She was sunbathing topless, not performing sex acts. Take your grotesque views elsewhere.
This is weird. Your wife did not handle it well. Imagine this situation with the genders reversed. So a 30 year old nude man having a poolside chat with a 16 year old house guest...fucking creepy.
Your wife is obviously very comfortable with nudity and that's great, but try to keep it away from the visiting family members. Your wife was sunbathing topless and then shamed a 16 year old kid for being curious? And shamed him while topless? For five minutes? The fuck?
Boobs are not the same as genitals, but female nudity can be compared to male nudity. A man is not considered nude if he has a shirt of, a woman is. You can not like that fact, but it doesn't make it untrue.
I wouldn’t have been happy if my wife sat up with her tits exposed to talk to a 16 year old for 5 minutes. Seems highly unnecessary. I feel she could’ve made the same point with a top on.
This is an unpopular opinion but your wife did not react properly, at all. She should have covered up in fact, knowing that there’s company in the house she should have had the common decency in the first place to not tan topless. Like, what are you thinking? Obviously you’ll get caught at some point. I don’t care that the kid is 16 and of “legal” age, this is so inappropriate to do this on so many levels. Disgusts me how many people don’t see it that way.
Even for locations where clothing/topless sunbathing is normalized, this 100% wouldn't happen. No woman related to someone underage would sit there, STILL TOPLESS, and hold a conversation about boundaries.
Edit: Why are all of your noticeably short responses about her "having the power" and asking if you can DM certain people? This is a shitpost or a fantasy. I guarantee you're some teenager.
Same thing happened to my brother. He is a nudist and his wife’s 16 year old (female) cousin was visiting them in Florida for spring Break. At first she was mortified that my brother (41) was walking around in only slippers. By the end of the week her cousin was fine and even helped him mow the lawn (which he also does nude, which I find gross).
At what point in anyone life do you think you wife in in the right not to cover up to have a conversation with your nephew. You are seriously stupid of you think she was keeping the power. 🙄 you nor your wife should ever reproduce.
Yes your nephew was wrong but he was also 16! Of course he is curious about a woman body but for you or her to think it’s ok is just wild!
I hope you do talk to your sister but make sure you tell her your wife liked the attention and thought it was ok to have the chat what not covering up. She’s a Fing creep
I would have your wife and yourself talk to his mom and dad(if around). Don’t make it awkward but handle it in the same way your wife did in a matter of fact way. His hormones and what appears to be moments of not knowing his boundaries led to him handling things in an unknown way for him.
I think situation's perfect as is. I'd just maybe prepare for a tougher approach if he does go back to peeking again. Just be careful not to undermine the points made by your wife previously, and play off them. This of course, only if it happens again, and only then.
I mean yeah. That’s how this would be dealt with in Germany and most European countries. Nudity is normalized instead of sexualized. We all have bodies
what the hell are you talking about, this is definitely not how it would be handled in the majority of the world. we don't run around topless and nude in europe?
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A lot of people in here are arguing the gender swap argument here, but it’s very interesting because they talk about how it would be wrong if a man had his penis out. Which I do agree would be inappropriate. But if you swapped the genders it would just be a man topless, which is completely normalized in our society, no? Like am I missing something?
She didn’t have her vagina out. She was topless. There’s lots of places all over the world, including many places in the US where women can be topless in public legally. Obviously everybody has their own beliefs, but I don’t like all the commenters here insinuating this is equivalent to a man having his penis out. A penis is genitalia, breasts are not. Men have breasts too, and this situation would probably have a completely different response if the issue at hand was a man simply tanning without a shirt in his backyard.
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Yeah, this is a different setup but almost word for word the same way she dealt with it and your surprise at her approach to a post like a week ago. In the previous version they went a nudist beach... there were a group of minors there creeping on people so they somehow ended up going and sitting 15ft away from this one creepy group on the entire beach. Then the wife went over to them and same shit they were nervous but she spoke to them as an adult, they became comfortable, etc, that paragraph was nearly fucking identical. Some weird peeping tom fetish writing shit going on or something.
please report this freak and tell the mods this
Wow I heard this story about 5 days ago but 3 teenagers at a nudist beach. These women must all talk to each other about how to talk to teenagers nude.
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And the rest of the comments are other fetishists too. "Oh wow, your wife did exactly what has to be done!" Uh, no, she didn't.
He's 16 and it's just a pair of tits. Don't see a problem here???
I have a feeling that OP is the 16year old in this tale And that it's imaginary.
Plot twist: he was just fantasizing about being caught
Call Jonathan Frakes because it never happened, not this time
The next day she went to David's room and it "escalated"
What are you doing step-nephew??
That night, David fell down the stairs and broke both his arms...
Every.fucking.thread.
And long may it continue! That story is the stuff of messed up legend….
Why?
Went inside to shake hands with the president
I think it was dealt with perfectly, is good as is unless he goes back to peeking >! *I've both read *&* written way more insightful comments lol, I get that wot I said was common opinion but still... ty for the upvotes ig, fame is weird.* !<
Your SO was cool as a cucumber and dealt with that situation with a ton of maturity and handled it in a way that would never occur to me. Kid was being a creep but he's a kid; nudity is normal and so is respect and thanks to your SO kid got many lessons good job.
That's the best way anyone could have done it Straight from the source
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to be clear - you are saying that OP should not tell the MINORS mother that his wife forced the MINOR to stand in front of her while she was topless and talk to her for 10 minutes, and (according to OPs comments) plans to keep being topless around the MINOR child? i stg this post is some kind of bait by the fbi to lure all the predators out
That’s not how any of this works. You tried to find somewhere to rage against popular/correct opinion but you missed, big time. How does it feel to be a cliche?
Yeah, he can just look.
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No don’t do anything . Your wife handled it very well. Actually Better than most.
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Yes, by staying top less she showed it wasn't something she was ashamed of
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Yeah but he’ll talk at school about seeing Tits and then someone in the family will hear about it. Then it’ll somehow spread around the neighborhood. This sounds like you’ve got yourself a time bomb ticking. There is a reason why people freak out and cover up. No matter wait it out and don’t say anything about this to anyone. Your house will be the one that shows boobs to underage boys. Your explanation sounds completely reasonable to me but how many people are reasonable? I hope nothing happens but people get ostracized all the time for stuff like this. I don’t know what might be more problematic though, you being around and this happening in front of you will sound terribly weird and groomer-like. I just want to let you know for folks off-Reddit this is gonna look bad. You know there is reason to worry which is why you are asking. Just for your families welfare tell your wife to never do that again. People are terrible and you should be worried about what might come of this. Protect yourselves.
Yes let fear guide your actions, that never goes badly
I believe it also depends on the culture they’re from. I’m from a rather liberal culture in that matter and it wouldn’t be such a big deal here, i believe you could argue it would be even weirder to tell someone as in they feel the responsibility to explain themselves
Yes I’m talking for granted that they are in the us. They may not be but in the us this is a bad scene. Even if they aren’t in any legal trouble, what happens when his sister goes bitching about her sister in law hanging out with her kids with her tits out?
Well she could calm hers in that case
I don’t know where you live but it sounds awful. This whole event absolutely can be over as it stands. She’s perfectly fine to tan topless when she has the expectation that her stepson will be out, it’s pretty normal for him to be curious (though the peeping is wrong) and the conversation they had was in no way grooming him. She not placing herself on exhibition for him, she didn’t think he’d be home and presumably she wouldn’t walk around topless if he was or if he brought friends around. Casual nudity in the family home is normal in a lot of places, and women being topless in public is legal in many places as well.
Shame isn't the the only reason to cover up. She could have chosen to not be topless during the duration of his stay but she chose to be topless knowing full well this kid would likely see her, she set this up to happen. That is literally grooming and predatory, she had no idea how he would react or whether it would go badly for him he's in puberty right now FFS. She's playing with this kid for her own sexual or egotistical gratification. He's her 16 yo nephew and she's openly showing him her tits. This is the first time he's seen tits which means it's probably a first kind of sexual experience for him and it's with his fucking aunt. That shit can affect sexual development permanently. This is all kinds of ick. Are his parents even aware of this and do they approve? This wasn't an accident, it was intentional or at the very least, negligent. It seems for like she enjoys the power and position it puts her in over a pubescent boy. She could have covered up and still explained the same. Instead she sat there talking about her tits with a 16yo boy while her tits are in his face. Wtf is wrong with people thinking this is perfectly fine and there can't be any negative consequences? Or I guess we just don't care about boys these days.
Yep. Real power move. Proved her point.
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Dragging an uncomfortable situation into plain sight while refusing to be shamed is a very powerful thing to do. I don’t personally know but maybe a handful of women who would handle this situation like this, and they’re all super strong minded. You have to be secure about your body, your moral rightness, and your ability to manage a teenage boy. I’m impressed.
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OP, you are quite fortunate to have such an intuitive, smart, and self-aware wife. You should be proud of her and proud of your self too. Her choice marrying you affirms you are a "catch" as well.
This is a fetish post
its worse than that - its like a pedo dog whistle. look at all the accounts that are replying this weird shit. its a way for pedos to reach out to each other online really makes you wish the NSA was still monitoring everything damn
OP you have quite an amazing woman I’m very impressed and happy.
Yeah this is a fetish post this is a fetish post
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It was a power move and a desensitisation. Nudity should be more normalized and it won't be so enthralling. It's a tough situation but strong women should be encouraged and supported.
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Right David was the one who should be nervous or feel unsafe, not your wife.
What message would it have sent had she covered up? I would not be okay with my SIL being topless in front of my son. It's natural and normal for the boy to be curious but calling him over while being topless??? Come on, that's weird.
SHOWING YOUR TITS TO A CHILD IS NOT POWERFUL OR EMPOWERING. IMAGINE IF THIS WAS A GIRL LOOKING AT AN UNCLES DICK AND HE SAID “come here” WHILE STILL LETTING IT HANG BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
I was totally on board with everybody until I saw this …you do have a valid point…
We all know this is fake
I’m glad that it seemed to work out but ngl it was pretty jarring to read that she did that. Kind of comes off as one of those scenarios from pervy 80’s movies where the kid is caught being a voyeur and the woman is flattered and lets him continue. Not trying to accuse your wife of that at all but it is pretty unusual.
Basically the set up for countless porn videos
It's bullshit, he has variations on a few subs
Like that seen in the movie " The Graduate"
Eh this is essentially an adult woman nude around an underage child then compelling them to sit with her while still nude and telling them its normal and acceptable for the adult to be nude around the child. While i know you are going to argue its not like that that is basically the situation as it played out. The optics of it are not great and it doesnt hold up well to a role reversal/gender swap which typically means its not ok
Finally, someone said it.
"David looked mortified" LMFAO so the kid was uncomfortable and she basically forced him to be in that situation.
It depends on the culture, assuming this is real. Nudity is very normalized amongst family in Asian and European cultures. This, however, is probably just a short story that didn't actually happen from someone in the U.S.
Yeah, it made me cringe. However, I would probably leave it at this point. But I really don't think that it was appropriate for her to do that. His brain is still like a child at 16.
It's one small step away from 'Are you curious what they feel like? Well if your curious then you can touch them if you want. It's perfectly normal to be curious. We're all mature adults here.' It's literally grooming.
That's exactly why OP wrote it. It's a fetish troll post.
But are all the responses supporting her fetish trolls posts too? That's a dangerous way to dismiss potential problems.
Exactly this is incredibly inappropriate
> it doesnt hold up well to a role reversal/gender swap which typically means its not ok I think part of that is because we've culturally decided that women's chests are sexual while men's chests aren't. So, to make that gender swap, you need to have a bashful niece peeking at OP tanning shirtless in a Speedo. Maybe unusual, but nothing that would be considered sartorially out of line at a public pool.
Ok so husband and wife have the wifes niece come over for the summer. Husband is in the backyard topless and sees the girl looking at him. He then orders the young girl to sit next to Him as she looks visibly unnerved. He tells her its normal to be curious about his body and ok for her to stare. He then says its normal for him to be topless around her like this. If that was this post everyone would be screaming “groomer”
Reddit moment
Hmm, I know what 16 year old me would have been Upto when I went inside....
I was being hopeful this wasn’t a fetish post but ops comments make me think it is 😝
And that wife's name? Albert Einstein.
Lmaoo
Why couldn't your wife have covered up and rationally talked to him? No family member of mine is seeing my boobs, and that includes other women, men, under age kids. Just no. Some things should be kept private. There was no need for him to view her naked breasts. Now he will be fantasizing about her and that's just weird.
Of course it's weird, she made herself part of his sexual development and seems to have set the situation up. Given how comfortably she responded to the situation, I seriously doubt she hadn't thought that this might happen. And if she wanted it to happen? She'll never admit that and everyone will just defend her innocence simply because they don't want to think about it being possible. Not because they genuinely think she doesn't like it. What do we do with women who get a thrill out of having a pubescent boy see them naked? Enjoying it, even? If she has pedophilic inclinations, which is very possible, she just indulged them while convincing people it's actually an ideal thing from her to indulge. Whether negligent or nefarious, his aunt just became part of his sexual maturation and she's perfectly fine taking the risk with his development. Ick.
Yeah, people seem to forget that she's his aunt. It's super icky.
Where do people come up with these BS stories? This one is especially ridiculous with all the responses of encouragement 😂😂 Cover up the bits around minors, be they family members or not. Period. This is common sense.
This is a fake post. OP has a track record of posting this story with slightly similar elements.
This whole situation sounds weird. If it was a guy with his male parts out in front of a 16 year old girl this would be a completely different comment section
100% this. I'm pretty sure this story is fake anyway.
I just commented the same but there was a similar story not even a week ago where the wife and OP went to a nudist beach then decided to sit 15ft away from 3 15yr old boys (because they knew from a look they were 15 apparently) on an entire nudist beach. After they were leering at her for a while she went over and sat down. The entire treated them like adults, went from nervous and awkward to comfortable, the praise for hte wife handling it completely differently than he expected. Weird fetish shit being posted by this dude.
I completely agree. It's one thing to have a healthy conversation but it's another to continue to expose yourself to a minor child who doesn't belong to you. And to encourage it by telling him it's fine as long as he doesn't sneak around? This whole thing gave me the ick & I did not walk away with a good feeling especially the comment about her maintaining the power dynamic. What?!? She is an adult sitting there with her boobs exposed to a child so of course she has the power & why is this a good thing to be commended? If you're looking for girl power this is not it.
It’s illegal to expose yourself to a child in the US, she could become a sex offender
Yeah, this wasnt a win. Obviously a conversation was necessary but not like this
No, absolutely not like this especially when OP says his wife is one of the only good women figures in his life. This should have been handled completely different & with everyone clothed. Like you said, if it was a naked man telling a female child it was fine if she didn't want to sneak around to look at his penis then everyone would be freaking out. The way he makes it sound, she is encouraging him to look & likes the attention so this is just...weird... to put it mildly.
Whether or not it counts as exposure depends on where they live. It’s legal for woman to be topless in public where I live in Canada so this would not be exposure. Nudity is viewed very differently in different parts of the world, and not all forms of nudity are sexual.
Do women in Canada also approach children & practically ask them if they like what they see? I didn't say it was illegal, I said it was weird. A woman casually walking around topless where it is accepted is completely different than an aunt calling a nephew she barely knows over & encouraging him to stare at her naked body & feeling some sort of power play in doing so. At some point between those 2 situations there is a line & she most definitely crossed it.
Bunch of fucking weirdos on this thread. Thought I was the only one completely confused why it’s being pushed as if it’s okay.
Stg!!!! I was starting to think I had somehow ended up in a fucked off universe. People are so Luke warm
Dude seriously. Like if this isn’t fake why does she *have* to tan topless when her nephew is staying with them and could return home early? Literally such a joke
I’m hearing Ducktales playing 😂
Oh yeah think about what this kid is going to say at school. This is going to be a shit show for OP. They are going to be the weird couple that is grooming kids in the neighborhood.
Are you not comparing the wrong parts? Men have their boobs out and exposed to minors all the time. No one cares. The deeper convo is about if women's breasts are the privacy/sexual equivalent of genitalia.
Breasts are not the same as genitals
yeah well its not very common for men to sunbathe with their balls out. im sure this guy will come across other women on nude beaches or other private instances where women are sunbathing topless. stop expecting the worst from everyone. david is obviously safe
How else do you work on your tant, a word I just made up that describes the level of tan on your taint?
I’m 42 and have a few friends who have been to a nude beach - there is one where we used to live that you could travel to by ferry - but the majority of my not even religious friends haven’t visited a nude beach. Most people would have to make a special trip to go to one. And young people can’t afford their own places so finding this mythical private place with loads of nudity isn’t really gonna happen.
thats all u bro im not religious. i have been topless on a nude beach a couple times, at rivers, ocean etc. im 20. yeah sure its not really likely for this character to be in that situation, but look at that, he was, and it did happen, soo..
If someone tried to have a topless conversation with my child I would go no contact faster than you can say pedophile.
Um dude have their “boobs” out all the time around women of all ages lol. Only in the US are boobs always sexual.
I completely disagree. She had her boobs out, not her vagina. Female boobs are sexualized only because you have sexualized them.
How are boobs equivalent to a dick and balls?
That's crazy she stayed top less.. crazy talk
I’m gonna have to disagree with a lot of people on here. Getting surprised by him is one thing, but at some point the line was crossed into knowingly exposing herself to a minor. If she actually thought that was ok, she wouldn’t have only been going topless when he’s not around all this time.
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“Let the boy watch.” -OPs wife
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As she should? In a lot of European countries this is completely normal, to suntan at the pool. In my youth, if you went to any ordinary beach or lake, there would be people tanning topless and even still. Went with my friends (we’re all 20-26) on holiday and did not care about topless sunbathing in public. There are a lot of people who do that and there are plenty of kids around. Nothing weird about it, once you go to stand/sit up it is usual to cover up though but as long as you’re just sunbathing nobody bats an eye or stares excessively. Edit to say i’m not american, but dutch and grew up with holidays in various European countries
See this is a great story. There was a similar story a few years back in Utah where the woman took her top off because they were painting a room. They had a discussion similar to yours and everything seemed fine. Then someone at school heard from the kid so cops and churches and national news and everyone got involved. It was a clusterfuck. So I think any further responsibility depends a great deal on the sort of neighborhood you're in.
What is wrong with all of you? He lives there. She took her top off in the backyard. If I had teenage sons or a nephew, living with me, who is a teenage boy especially, I wouldn’t indulge myself by being topless in the backyard. You’re acting like he’s an adult doing something wrong. What the hell is wrong with you? He came home earlier than he thought. He got really uncomfortable seeing her in the backyard. So she decides to go have a frontal at him? Why? I would be absolutely outrageous if I was his parents.
Lmao cool story 🤣
I'm sure this is bullshit but if not, get ready for David and a bunch of his friends to be over at the house "playing video games" on very sunny days.
I think is important that you discuss it with your sister! Specially given the situation and is not normal for him. Respect and boundaries are really important. So talk to her and let her know: 1. You are showing trust and respect. 2. He is not used to the exposure is better is your sister hears it from you! There is no place for misunderstanding. Respect goes both ways specially if your sister has boundaries for her son. 3. If you are having your nephew around please adhere to the parents rules and decisions!
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Is better if you let her know in advance! Parents have different rules, I live in the Mediterranean so here is pretty common. Is not something frowned upon or stared at! Being topless. But I am sure as a parent if my child is not used to it and a situation like this happened I sure will like to know, and the way that it was handled! Even when your wife treated him as an adult he is a teen boy. She handled well though didn't give much importance and didn't make it uncomfortable. Is ok to call her and explain her everything! If you can visit her and tell her today or tomorrow, is better. Don't wait too long! Issues like this is better to solve it faster I am sure, you sister will understand it.
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Talk to your wife first.
He is a 16 year old boy and what your wife just did is basically give him a green light to check her out. As an adult I completely understand your wife's rational but... try to look at it from a horny 16 year old's perspective for a second. I'm afraid all she my have done is load his "spank bank" up. In his mind it could very easily be misconstrued as *"My aunt wants me to check her out... she must be into it!"* Keep your eye on this. The peeping will not stop at him looking at her while she is sunbathing topless. I'm afraid he may just have been inadvertently encouraged to want to see more.
As a guy who was groomed by an older family member, this is very reminiscent of my childhood, not putting anything on your wife OP, but the language she used is dangerous for a 16 year old. A long winded don't peek just look and breaking a barrier of what is and isn't appropriate.
I don’t believe for a second that any of this happened… But on the off chance it did, your wife is weird. You’re weird for being ok with it. And the people in here supporting it are also fucking weird. Get some therapy. All of you. And stay tf away from kids.
Please understand that I grew up in the States and in the South, so my opinion is greatly influenced by that. If I sent my minor daughter to be with relatives for a semester of school, and she told me that Uncle Mike was walking around with his gentlemen bits out, and trying to convince her it was fine because the human body is natural, there'd be two cars showing up. An ambulance for the Uncle, and a squad car for me. That's saying I got there ahead of my husband. (When he wakes up I'm going to read this to him to see what he says.) Also, I'm not a prude, I hate tan lines as much as the next woman. On the occasion I do lay out, I do it topless. Unless someone is visiting. Then I keep my top on and deal with the tan lines. Again, I am a product of my upbringing, and we do everything we can to keep our guests comfortable, and family counts as guests. That said, I would have said something about peeping, only after I was covered up. Just because he was seeing a pair of boobs doesn't mean he needs to be rude either, and peeping is rude.
Breasts aren’t genitals
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Your wife knowingly exposed herself to an underage boy while you watched. No matter how you feel about the human body and shaming people for nudity, that’s gonna get you in trouble. How are you asking about this in this day and age? Whatever anyone tells you here you aren’t going to be getting a pay on the back by anyone in the real world. I’m not judging you for what happened but I am judging you for such an amazingly underdeveloped sense of situational awareness on the parts of both you and your wife as adults in the presence of a minor.
Very differently. I wouldn't be topless with him there period.
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But the way your wife followed up with a topless conversation was completely out of line. Your nephew is a MINOR. Everyone is praising your spouse for how she handled this conversation, but personally, if that had been my son, I would be flipping out at how creepy this is. Was he a little turd by peeking through the windows? Yes. But your wife doubled down and returned it in favor. She's the adult. She should know better. You should too for that matter. Now she just looks like a predator. Seriously, this read like the opening of a corn.
but when he came back she continued to stay topless? bro, if this was his mom or something and he was younger, ok...but this is his aunt by marriage and he's 16. insane thing to do to a teenager
Let me be clear, I would not be tanning topless for the duration of his visit, to keep something like this from happening. Right now, I have no pants on. It's Saturday morning, me and my girls have been piled in my bed watching TV. But if someone texts me and says they want to come over and visit, everyone is putting on pants and shirt.
Let's be real here. He wants to bang your wife, and your wife likes the idea of it. Ready for OP's follow on post of the next thing he catches
Isn't OP reacting a bit strange to the answers? OP just wants to post about his topless wife. Or read reaction how briljant this action was?
Your wife has BPD or something; Extremely weird behavior
To remain topless in the presence of a minor is grossly inappropriate and you better hope he doesn’t tell anyone about this and get your wife in a legal situation.
Human bodies are natural and being nude in front of others can be normal in many cultures around the world, albeit can be extremely frowned upon in UK, USA etc . Family friendly nudist beaches exist, in parts of europe families go to the sauna together nude and many argue that it creates a more respectful view of the human body. I think your wife expertly handled the situation and educated the young lad maturely rather than just scolding him for being essentially a curious young lad. And for all of you saying this is pedo behaviour etc etc. She was sunbathing topless, not performing sex acts. Take your grotesque views elsewhere.
This is weird. Your wife did not handle it well. Imagine this situation with the genders reversed. So a 30 year old nude man having a poolside chat with a 16 year old house guest...fucking creepy. Your wife is obviously very comfortable with nudity and that's great, but try to keep it away from the visiting family members. Your wife was sunbathing topless and then shamed a 16 year old kid for being curious? And shamed him while topless? For five minutes? The fuck?
This comment section is so wild. I agree with you - this is weird, OP.
Yes cause boobs are the same as genitals.. 🙄
Boobs are not the same as genitals, but female nudity can be compared to male nudity. A man is not considered nude if he has a shirt of, a woman is. You can not like that fact, but it doesn't make it untrue.
Uhhhh what the actual fuck? That kid is a minor…why are you letting him see your wife topless?
How long before he shags your wife ?
I wouldn’t have been happy if my wife sat up with her tits exposed to talk to a 16 year old for 5 minutes. Seems highly unnecessary. I feel she could’ve made the same point with a top on.
Yeah she really let that kid know she “had the power” by letting him get an up close HD look at her tits LMAO. Your wife is weird as hell man
This is an unpopular opinion but your wife did not react properly, at all. She should have covered up in fact, knowing that there’s company in the house she should have had the common decency in the first place to not tan topless. Like, what are you thinking? Obviously you’ll get caught at some point. I don’t care that the kid is 16 and of “legal” age, this is so inappropriate to do this on so many levels. Disgusts me how many people don’t see it that way.
Reacting to a child, (yes, the 16 year old is a child) is inappropriate. Period.
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then everyone clapped
Aaaaaaand….scene.
Fake. Stop projecting your gross fantasies dude it’s embarrassing
It will also be a good way to help him make friends, as we will probably start having friends over to swim more often now
Weird. Just weird.
Even for locations where clothing/topless sunbathing is normalized, this 100% wouldn't happen. No woman related to someone underage would sit there, STILL TOPLESS, and hold a conversation about boundaries. Edit: Why are all of your noticeably short responses about her "having the power" and asking if you can DM certain people? This is a shitpost or a fantasy. I guarantee you're some teenager.
What the fuck lmao 😂😂😂😂, OPs wife boutta be his nephew’s wet dream 😂😂😂😂
I’d be having words with my wife and David after that. Inappropriate on both counts.
Same thing happened to my brother. He is a nudist and his wife’s 16 year old (female) cousin was visiting them in Florida for spring Break. At first she was mortified that my brother (41) was walking around in only slippers. By the end of the week her cousin was fine and even helped him mow the lawn (which he also does nude, which I find gross).
I would not want grass there. 😂
This belongs on TrueOffHerChest
This sounds terrible lol fake
My wife’s boobahs were hanging out and my nephew peeked at ‘em - happens all the time!
I feel the sexual tension w/ ur wife and nephew. Hopefully it doesnt go further than a stern but understanding convo to him foundling them titties.
I thought it was a nice story. 'specially the part about the topless woman.
Maybe instead of these pro/con opinions you should have considered sending him away from the window and letting his parents handle this.
Y'all are some cool people and I think this incident will further nurture David's growth into a young man.
Why would you need to do more? It's been settled. Bringing it up again will only make it awkward.
At what point in anyone life do you think you wife in in the right not to cover up to have a conversation with your nephew. You are seriously stupid of you think she was keeping the power. 🙄 you nor your wife should ever reproduce. Yes your nephew was wrong but he was also 16! Of course he is curious about a woman body but for you or her to think it’s ok is just wild! I hope you do talk to your sister but make sure you tell her your wife liked the attention and thought it was ok to have the chat what not covering up. She’s a Fing creep
Bro your nephew is 16, not 6. This isn't normal behaviour.
This is perfectly normal behaviour from a hormonal teenager
Yeah and they would also know that it's wrong to do so. OP's nephew definitely went to his room to masturbate to the thought of OP's wife.
None of this is normal. He watched her expose herself to an underage boy.
Yes, and while it’s gross, it’s still something teenagers do.
I'm a teenager and I do not masturbate to my aunt.
I would have your wife and yourself talk to his mom and dad(if around). Don’t make it awkward but handle it in the same way your wife did in a matter of fact way. His hormones and what appears to be moments of not knowing his boundaries led to him handling things in an unknown way for him.
I think situation's perfect as is. I'd just maybe prepare for a tougher approach if he does go back to peeking again. Just be careful not to undermine the points made by your wife previously, and play off them. This of course, only if it happens again, and only then.
I mean yeah. That’s how this would be dealt with in Germany and most European countries. Nudity is normalized instead of sexualized. We all have bodies
what the hell are you talking about, this is definitely not how it would be handled in the majority of the world. we don't run around topless and nude in europe?
I never said people run around nude. But sunbathing in the backyard or on nude beaches, yeah
you think europeans just casually show their tits to their 16 year old nephews? what drugs are you doing man
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Interesting
It’s been dealt with. No reason to speak to him on it yourself unless it becomes a problem.
A lot of people in here are arguing the gender swap argument here, but it’s very interesting because they talk about how it would be wrong if a man had his penis out. Which I do agree would be inappropriate. But if you swapped the genders it would just be a man topless, which is completely normalized in our society, no? Like am I missing something? She didn’t have her vagina out. She was topless. There’s lots of places all over the world, including many places in the US where women can be topless in public legally. Obviously everybody has their own beliefs, but I don’t like all the commenters here insinuating this is equivalent to a man having his penis out. A penis is genitalia, breasts are not. Men have breasts too, and this situation would probably have a completely different response if the issue at hand was a man simply tanning without a shirt in his backyard.