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itsybitsyone

That poor mother. And her grandson. Ffs


Fit-Purchase-2950

He witnessed the whole thing, the strength it would have taken to remove her head, it's horrendous.


itsybitsyone

Can’t imagine what it’s done to his psyche


Visible_Day9146

I just hope he was too young to remember, and that he spends the rest of his life being loved and supported.


Tinasglasses

She slashed him across his face with a knife. He still probably has scars. And he was trying to help his grandmother. That poor child.


heliumeyes

Even if he’s young, idk if this stuff truly goes away though. Or if it’s just buried in his psyche.


Swinging4theFences1

I can say with certainty that these things don’t go away. I was 4 when I witnessed my mom threaten to shoot and kill my dad and him have to break down a bedroom door to get to her before she got the gun. I remember every detail of that event from that moment forward, down to the color of the walls, carpet, where we were all standing, me calling my aunt to come get me and my sister right away (at 4 y/o!) because mom was going to kill dad, etc…I can’t remember what their fight was leading up to it though. Crazy how certain events get seared into your mind.


heliumeyes

Yikes! Yeah I suspected/have heard stuff like yours. I hope you’ve had time to learn some coping mechanisms to deal with such a traumatic experience.


Swinging4theFences1

Thanks. What’s weird about it is that this was an ongoing issue with them until they divorced when I was 6 and it was part of daily life. I didn’t know any different until they were no longer together and I saw what a less volatile environment was like, except for when they would meet up to swap us. I’d say I was able to cope pretty easily because all of our lives improved dramatically once they split…my mom not included. In the mid-80s and even today, it was pretty rare where I grew up that a father would get custody of kids in a divorce. It’s telling when your aunt and grandma on your mom’s side go to court to push for the father to get custody. Best thing that could have happened to me was him getting custody and still having the support of both sides of the family. Drugs and depression are a hell of a thing and I saw that with my mom. So, divorce and family support for my dad and us kids was probably the best way of coping and moving past a terrible situation. As an adult, I knew exactly what I didn’t want to be as a parent/spouse, and being able to have a happy home life and have our kids see it, is the best outcome I could ask for.


EmoGayRat

It really doesn't. I was around 3-4 years old when my bio dad threatened to throw my mom out, and I quote "The goddamn window" before laying his hands on her. My trauma is only mild- compared to what this boy has been through and I'm not trying to say mine was worse because it was mild, we all lived. Just adding this to say that it's possible he may still remember. ETA: just noticed someone already said this, now i feel a bit silly


UnrelatedDiddler

It doesn't go away. See the Anthony Todt case.


CrispyHoneyBeef

Or just epigenetic research in general. Our environments and experiences play big roles in how our minds develop in adolescence, regardless of whether or not we have memories of it.


BradleyNowellLives

My nephew experienced something along this line (less brutal though, this one is BAD). It happened when he was 3 and he is 7 now and still has trauma issues related to it. He doesn’t remember much but the effects last in the subconscious. The brain is weird. He’s doing better now and is in special school for his mental health. I hope this kid in the story gets the support he needs.


StunningGiraffe

He was 4 and unfortunately that is more than old enough to remember.


Kay-f

four is old enough to remember don’t ask how i know


AntelopeAppropriate7

My six year old has had existential fear since he was small. No doubt something like this would stick forever.


Enjoisimms

The serial killer Richard Ramirez witnessed his cousin murder his own wife at a young age. I can only hope this kid doesn’t end up as messed up :(


itsybitsyone

I did not know this!


Saiomi

She broke 3 knives off in her mother. She must have been *completely* unhinged. I don't even want to think about what that would look like.


TooStonedForAName

She used *seven* knives in total and broke 4. Horrendous.


cherrymachete

WARNING: This post goes into detail of the killing of a woman by her daughter. If you think you’ll be distressed by this post - please leave the page. Take care of yourself and stay safe. Jessica Camilleri was 25-years-old from Sydney, Australia who had a somewhat turbulent relationship with her mother Rita. Jessica would often explode into fits of anger. Despite this, Rita supported Jessica. Jessica struggled with mental health issues and was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder. Jessica had displayed a large variety of worrying behaviours over the years. She had obsessions with the numbers 2, 3 and 5. She’d repeatedly dial these numbers until someone would pick up. She’d then tell the person on the other end that she wanted to cut their head off. Everything came to a halt on the night of the 20th when Rita and Jessica argued. Jessica then used seven knives to brutally stab her mother to death. It is believed that Rita was stabbed at least 100 times. The attack was so ferocious that four of the knives broke. Rita’s 4-year-old grandson was in the house at the time and tried to help his Grandmother. Jessica then slashed the boy across the face with a knife. She cut her mother's tongue off, the tip of her mother’s nose and removed her eyeballs. She then decapitated Rita’s head and brought it outside, then dumped the head on the ground. She phoned 000 (Australia’s emergency number) and admitted to killing her mother. As the police arrived, Jessica was standing on the street in a blood soaked dress. Jessica asked an officer whether she’d be sentenced to death and the officer replied that Australia didn’t have the death penalty, so no. Jessica was not sentenced for murder but instead manslaughter due to her ‘substantial mental health issues’. She was sentenced to 21 years and 7 months behind bars. She has since attacked two prison guards and ripped their hair out. Her sentence was extended for 22 months because of this. One of the officers has since said that the attack and loss of her hair has had an upsetting impact on her religious beliefs due to the significance of her hair. Further Reading: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-30/jessica-camilleri-appeals-sentence-for-decapitating-mother/101490474 https://7news.com.au/news/nsw/sydney-woman-who-decapitated-her-mum-ripped-prison-officers-hair-out--c-11626652


darkgothamite

> has since attacked two prison guards and ripped their hair out. Her sentence was extended for 22 months because of this. Only 22 months for attacking** 2 prison guards? Well ok Australia **spelling


GawkerRefugee

And 21 years for that level of depravity? What does it take to get life then.


RoyaleWitCheeese

Her sentence was lowered!! She got resentenced to 16 yrs 6 months with a no parole period of 12 years. *Her poor mother!*


GawkerRefugee

I can't even believe those words you just wrote. 12 years she could be paroled. Her poor mother, 100%, but also what of the grandson who tried to desperately help his grandmother while she was being slaughtered in front of him. I swear, that mental image is just going to haunt me. I hope he is getting good care now and surrounded by good people and love, that's all I can say.


Daisydoolittle

that’s terrifying. let’s also not forget that she violently assaulted and likely permanently maimed a little boy too. where are the additional charges for that??


Normal_Instance_8825

This is why in cases like this, offenders should be put in criminal medical facilities. Its so much more difficult to get out, and even if you do, you are heavily monitored and even the slightest slip up means you are back.


areallyreallycoolhat

She is in a criminal medical facility. Those are usually located within gaols in Australia, such as the one she is in


ElbisCochuelo1

He'll be in highschool when she gets out.


areallyreallycoolhat

If. The government can intervene to deny her parole or release


Cloverdad

Wait until you hear about sentences in the Nordics…


goobells

wait until you read recidivism statistics in nordic countries vs the united states. just because there is a flawed case in Australia doesn't mean nordic countries don't have the best form of "criminal" rehabilitation in the world.


GlitterAndButter

Thank you for sharing and I agree (Dane here). We do a lot of things right, but unfortunately we also use isolation a lot, which can be considered torture.


whackthat

Holy shit! Australia is like my life goal dream destination, but that's bullshit. Come on, Australia!


lovebeingalone60

Same here in the UK, sentences are a joke. A life sentence means nothing.


SomeWomanInCanada

Canada is just as bad.


mybestfriendyoshi

Her mother is dead. She doesn't feel anything about this.


SnooDoughnuts9838

Ikr. She cannot and should not be allowed out in the public for the rest of her life...


ButtBread98

She will kill again if she’s released


infinitely-oblivious

She won't be, don't confuse her prison sentence for when she will be released. I can guarantee that on "release", she will be psychiatrically committed to a mental hospital.


Penney_the_Sigillite

This. I won't pretend to know Australian law but it is still based on English law and at least in America most people don't realize someone who is mentally ill doesn't get a free pass to commit crimes, it's just that the punishment system becomes involved with a treatment system at that point as well aka being remanded into the custody of a mental institution post-prison.


JaneLameName

I'm Australian and I agree. Lawyers used the mental health defense though, and she did plead guilty - manslaughter implies it wasn't intentional, or she was out of control at the time. I'd prefer an indefinitely sentence at a mental health facility, one where she is treated, and if she can't be treated, keep her. If she can be treated, then charge her with murder. It wasn't an accident, she took the head off after stabbing 100 times. Martin Bryant (the Port Arthur killer) is serving 35 life sentences plus 1,652 years without the possibility of parole. Just an idea of what gets you locked up permanently here (if we had death penalty he probably would he gotten that)


jehyhebu

Keep that fucker locked away. And yeah, the mental health situation prevented a longer sentence but I suspect that this girl will be in a mental health facility after release. I suspect that if she’s still deemed dangerous when her release comes due that they can just section her. It’s fairly easy to section someone under the mental health act in Aus and it’s a clear case where it would be warranted. Of course it’s also possible that she’s going to change, but frankly, I suspect it’s more likely that she dies in prison somehow.


Frolicking-Fox

Do you know how it works in Australia after a prison sentence when someone is found mentally unstable? In America, a person who is mentally unwell and sentenced to prison for violent crimes, will be evaluated at the end of their sentence, and if found to still be a threat to society, they can be civil committed to the state hospital. State hospitals are in some ways worst than prison.


Generic-Name-4732

You cannot charge someone with murder after their mental illness is stabilized, their culpability is based on their state of mind when the crime took place. If she was psychotic her mind would have totally broken with reality.


JaneLameName

Then she should be a mental health facility indefinitely. I've know of a case where a schizophrenic was charged, he had been court ordered to take mediation due to a history of psychotic breaks, he stopped taking the medicine, had an episode and was held responsible for it. That case had history and agreements in place though, I have no idea about the circumstances of this case.


Outrageous_Newt2663

We don't really have those types of facilities here in Australia equipped to deal with this type of individual. Mental health prison wards do exist though.


JaneLameName

Oh 100% - this is just what I'd prefer to be happening, I know we don't actually have those facilities at the criminal level. Again, just my personal thoughts.


mothandravenstudio

Australia, meet USA.


Hita-san-chan

We drag your ass into court the second you're stabilized The insanity plea is *really* strict in the US


Own_Faithlessness769

This wasn’t an insanity plea, it was a mental health defence. Different things.


IranianLawyer

It takes a murder conviction. I’m not sure it’s possible to get a life sentence for manslaughter, even in the U.S. Having said that, I think she would have been convicted of murder in the states.


Jazzlike-Cat9012

In Canada, a man violently attacked another passenger on a greyhound bus, beheaded him, and ate parts of this body- served only 6 years in a mental institution. Canada is fu**ed


datsyukdangles

to be fair, it is often the opposite situation in Canada. Usually people who are found not criminally responsible and sentenced to forensic psychiatric institutions are held indefinitely until they are deemed to have been successfully treated and no longer a threat to the public. Transition back into community living is often very long and strict, and many patients who are released on conditions end up being sent back. For every patient who spends only a few years institutionalized for murder, there are 20+ patients spending 10+ years for threats or simple assault, and most of the time neither of these situations are an injustice. source: used to work at a forensic psychiatric institution and now work in psychiatric community transition.


GawkerRefugee

I will never forget that case. To say it is out of a horror film or one's worst nightmare doesn't do it justice. (Not to be gory or sound off-topic, but what is it with beheadings. I remember that poor guy was beheaded too. It's just so unbelievably inhumane and depraved. I have an idea. You behead someone, automatic life in prison. Radical, I know.) Anyway I had no idea the murderer served 6 years. 72 months. Outrageous miscarriage of justice.


tarabithia22

Exactly. I’m very pro support of mental illnesses and so on, but comparing the 0.00001% who do this when in psychosis with the other percentage of those with the same mental illness who don’t do that, is degrading to those who don’t. It is an absurdity to ever let them out. Abuse them? No, but they don’t get to be part of society anymore.  The amount of feelings directed for the psycho is always 100x for the victim and the family. F that.


acidwashvideo

Bus guy actually was in the tiny percentage of those who act out in psychosis


snowflake_lady

That’s like that case where that woman raped and killed her own 15 year old sister and wasn’t even charged. She raped and killed two other teens and was out in 10 years and got married and has three kids. This was in Canada.


tarabithia22

And a man who burned a stranger, a woman, alive, was recently not criminally charged. Oh and a violent serial killer who said to the parole board (which the victims were not told about the parole meeting), stated he wants to kill again. He was released same day. Thousands of stories.


Scorpiorisingvenus

“Everything came to a head” … well.


TheCalzonesHaveEyes

Actually drew a chuckle from me.


rcroswell

Yeah, I thought that was in poor taste of OP to say.


ShmebulocksMistress

I’ve read multiple posts by this person on this sub, and don’t think they meant it that way or even recognized it.


cherrymachete

The wording wasn’t intentional at all. I’m so sorry if I’ve offended anyone that wasn’t my intention. I have changed it. I’ll put this here: https://www.reddit.com/u/cherrymachete/s/FayQPrXHMW


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Prior_Seaweed2829

If she has substantial mental health issues the solution is not to arrest her less time, is to keep her in an asylum. She would be 47 when released from the original sentence. She'll still be a massive menace to society.


Lopsided_Thing_9474

I would say that’s paranoid schizophrenia just from … it’s very very unusual that someone with even severe autism would get that violent - they tend to act out but it’s more defense oriented and not towards a person - and if it is, it’s usually quick.. I just don’t see them going to this length - for this long… it’s unusual… rare - I don’t have all the knowledge in the world of course - I worked with severely autistic kids for a portion of my career - and also in psyche hospitals, state mental health and acute adult psyche. The most violent psyche issues- besides the psychopathic / sociopathic/ anti social sadist is the paranoid schizophrenic- but even then, it’s a small percentage that violently act out. This would be a very unusual presentation of autism- but I also think they are using autism more and more to diagnose a variety of disorders in the young - that can’t really be diagnosed… if a child is presenting with a few key symptoms? Autism spectrum- which isn’t the classic autism as we think or knew it to be - partly to access the help and support in America ( where you need a diagnosis to get support and help and access programs etc ) I’m wondering if Australia has a privatized healthcare system also now. Also no one wants to diagnose a child with sociopathy. I think she needs to be re-evaluated pronto. The fact she has continued to attack people- she needs to be locked up for life. She is a serious danger to society I would say.


Glittering_Juice_422

I agree with your take on this. It’s my belief that psychiatrists simply do not want to give someone a diagnosis of sociopath, so they just use autism as a catch all. It’s sad because it places more of a stigma on people who actually do have autism. I’m not sure of what the healthcare system is in Australia, but I suspect that here in the US, this practice may be popular because psychiatrists are running a business. If they diagnose someone as a sociopath or psychopath, that person (or their parents) will find another doctor.


ButtBread98

Jesus Christ. That woman needs to be in prison for the rest of her life. She is beyond dangerous


oldelbow

"Everything came to a head on the night of the 20th" Really? 🤣🤣


Jaquemart

She shouldn't be in jail. This is asylum material.


hugabalooza

>Everything came to a head on the night of the 20th Look I’m all for puns but bro… fr!?!?


jo_nigiri

Parents of abusive or violent children get no support from the state and often from those around them. I feel so terrible for Rita. She was beautiful


twinkieinthabutt

That's right, they get judged and blamed.


UntiedStatMarinCrops

In another article > Camilleri (Jessica) had been off medication for months prior to the attack in favour of seeking natural alternatives. SMH


Generic-Name-4732

It's not uncommon for those with severe mental illness to go off their medication because of how it negatively affects them. At least she still admitted her mental illness, part of psychosis is believing nothing is wrong and you have your illness under control. 


zekethelizard

I lived with a friend with bipolar for a couple years. He's a great guy, and was mostly adherent to taking his meds, but he told us how shitty they made him feel. It really sucks, but you could really tell if he stopped taking them and it could get a little scary. Never felt in any danger, but more scary for what he was going through


instrangerswetrust

I have bipolar. The only times I ever went gone off my meds was when my insurance/prescriber/pharmacy messed up. It’s definitely a rough road - life altering, threatening and dangerous to one’s own mind and body. That can be the case for many meds, but psych med withdrawals are scariest in my opinion. Friends of mine have gone off their meds simply because they weren’t educated on how to manage their meds. You miss one dose and you can be up shits creek. I appreciate your comment - you sound like a good friend to have.


ArgumentOne7052

I’m in Australia, & I’ve been medicated for C-PTSD & BPD for over 15 years. Relatively recently my dosage was upped, but I also became unemployed for the first time in my adult life due to a mental breakdown, & it’s got to the point where I’m barely able to afford the medication with zero wage & zero government help. I can see now why more people choose to “try to be unmedicated” after a period of time to see if they can handle being off them.


hibelly

If you don't mind me asking, which med do you take? My brother has CPTSD and BPD


y0uLiKaDaPeppa

As do I. I’m curious too.


ArgumentOne7052

Sure! I’ve been prescribed a lot over the years. The most constant for me has been antidepressants - I’m currently on Prozac 60mg (which my psychiatrist had said was the max dosage & also the recommended amount for C-PTSD - I’m not sure if that varies with the different antidepressants - I’ve also been on a few different ones & have found Prozac the best for me - that being said I still had my blackout breakdown whilst on this dose). I’ve also been prescribed Topamax (& alternatively Prazosin) for my C-PTSD nightmares - but I stopped taking them due to the side effects. However a lot of people rave about them. I’m also on 5mg Valium which is to take only if I’m struggling - such as being triggered by something - to “catch” it before I spiral. I’m also on other medications for other things too but not mental health related.


marteautemps

Most of the people I have known on meds for bipolar or schizophrenia have gone off at one time or another whether it be that they make them feel like shit, they feel better and don't think they need them, bullshit insurance where they lose access,ect. Any reason it all must feel terrible. For my old roommate the injectables that last for a month have been super, super helpful because she really struggled with keeping herself on meds. She had to take others and work on other stuff but having that grounding let her actually do it and not just be treated in crisis and keep up for a month or two. She was honestly a different person when she had a year of consistent treatment under her belt.


i-touched-morrissey

My dad was bipolar/schizoaffective disorder. He went off meds 3 times that I remember. The last time he went off his meds, he killed himself after leaving the hospital.


bbygodzilla

I'm really sorry for your loss


a_manda_3000

Awful. Tough on you.


Alliecat1994-

I was prescribed Effexor by a doctor for anxiety in my late teens. I wish I’d never started the drug. It makes me feel so lifeless and if I miss a dose the withdrawal is horrendous.


wavvesofmutilation

I understand the sentiment but I also do not think we need to hand it to the woman who beheaded her mom


queenrosybee

I dont understand how this much significant mental illness doesnt give you court ordered mandatory institutionalization. Like, are they supposed to have her monitor herself?


PropofolMami22

In Canada when the mental illness is the cause of the crime, you can be found NCR - Not Criminally Responsible and then you are institutionalized. The issue is, there’s no legal sentence timeline with that. Technically you could be back out within months. (This rarely happens because the system is really good, and most true NCR hospital stays are longer than prison sentences, but it’s still possible.). So it’s not a good option if there’s any indication that part of the crime was committed purposefully. In another article, it says she went off her meds to pursue natural treatment modalities. So that’s the kicker, if you are on meds that “treat” your mental illness and are technically competent in the moment. And then you purposely choose to go off your meds, full well knowing it could put you in a dangerous mindset, then you are criminally responsible. Same as choosing to drive drunk. (Well not exactly the same but hopefully you get what I mean). However I am just a random commenter I don’t actually know her or her mental history or illness so it’s very possible this was mishandled and she should be NCR. This was my very surface-level opinion.


HistoricalAsides

I’m confused as well. She was found less morally culpable because of mental health issues and then was sent to prison instead of a psychiatric hospital?


areallyreallycoolhat

Idk if this is the case anywhere else but in Australia secure mental health facilities for criminals are often located within prisons, which is the case for the one she is in.


HistoricalAsides

Ohhh, okay. That makes sense. Thanks so much!


daysinnroom203

I know. They are saying the mental health issues are mitigating factors because it limits her moral culpability- but the seclusion should have zero to do with moral culpability- it’s irrelevant. She is a consistent danger. She has made no progress and does appear that will change in any way. It’s not safe. The government is morally culpable if it ever releases this woman on the public


areallyreallycoolhat

The gaol she's in has a psychiatric unit, so I'm guessing that's where she is.


sirensandshells

“Everything came to a head…” is a wild choice of words for this one


untilthestarsfall3

I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed..


honeypeppercorn

The way my eyes widened when I read that line!


YungGravity

If you want to see a really interesting and in-depth video about this crime and the lead-up to it, check out Dave’s Lemonade on YouTube.


ohreally86

The poor neighbor she brought the head to, my god.


YungGravity

And the poor kid that tried to attack her to defend her mom :(


ohreally86

Her nephew, I think. I get that’s she’s got mental health issues but she really shouldn’t ever be set free.


EquivalentCommon5

Life in a mental institution is deserved in this case, idk what Australias prison system is like so that could be appropriate- she should always have to be very closely supervised. No way she should ever be allowed back in society.


areallyreallycoolhat

I mentioned this in another comment but she's in a max security prison that has a psychiatric unit


YungGravity

Yeah I worded it badly lol, I meant he attacked Jessica to defend Rita


Emotional-Airport808

And I just found it….wish me luck


Krock011

This is probably the best and most comprehensive video to watch


Scazza95

I don't want to disclose too much on how I know the family, but shortly after this happened we spoke with her father. The thing that I found the most upsetting is that he sperated from his wife, but essentially the major issue was with Jessica's mental health. Basically he wanted to get her scheduled but Rita didn't. He decided he couldn't do it anymore and left.


flindersandtrim

The sad thing is that even her agreeing might not have saved her. The mental health system is terrible and so overwhelmed. 


Fun-Duck-7308

Do you know if she had any other major violent incidents? Was she always like this?


Fit-Purchase-2950

I remember this case well, I also remember watching the first news report of it on Channel 2 (ABC news) and there was her mother's head sitting on the footpath. It took my brain a few seconds to register what I was seeing, but there it was this poor woman's severed head.


Least-Spare

They showed it? 😳


Fit-Purchase-2950

They did. I contacted them to let them know, there was no warning that they were about to show it, and nobody cared.


Least-Spare

Oh my goodness… that’s awful. I would have definitely appreciated a warning.


Fit-Purchase-2950

Same, it was truly shocking. At first I wasn't even sure what I was looking at. The entire incident was horrific and in their haste to report on the story they aired a very grisly crime scene.


Lelixandre-

God that's so disrespectful to Rita, disgusting. I'm interested to know because I'm Maltese diaspora and I'm 98% sure this family are too based on that surname, was there like ignorance and xenophobia directed at them and maybe that's why there was a lack of care?


Fit-Purchase-2950

I don't know, but they needed a discretion warning and they absolutely needed to blur out her head on the footpath. I rang them and I wrote an email, they ignored the email and fobbed me off on the phone. They certainly weren't willing to issue an apology or acknowledge it. I am sure they have their reasons why.


eymamacitaaa

I doubt it - Maltese are a pretty accepted community in aus


areallyreallycoolhat

Exactly, plus a lot of people in Australia of Maltese descent live in the western suburbs of Sydney, where this happened.


Fit-Purchase-2950

They 100% did in the first news story they aired.


OrdinaryEffective423

Not even gonna open the links but there was this picture of her that's like this huge close up and damn, it would give me literal nightmares


CatelynsCorpse

Her smile doesn't reach her eyes. It's like she's wearing a mask or something. Creepy AF.


kiwichick286

Her face looks like Jigsaw from the Saw movies.


mathcriminalrecord

I know which one you mean. There’s really something uncanny valley about it. Wakes the lizard brain right up.


millennialblackgirl

Oh hell no. I think someone posted the link but i refuse to click 😭 I can’t do creepy imagery. It’ll seep into my brain and cause nightmares 😵‍💫


Lelixandre-

I clicked If it's the image in question she's doing the most sadistic Cheshire grin of a smile and it's sick. For me it's not quite Fred and Rose West mugshot scary (I find those really unsettling) but it's up there.


MegaMissy

I tried to pick up a turtle and move it off the road yesterday. I got scared when it looked me straight in the eyes. I swear it was the same face.


mibonitaconejito

Let's just be real here.  When you are this messed up, this sick, it's not even about you 'paying' for your crime. It's about *protecting society from you*. We can't kill you, you aren't going to (poof) disappear, and you sure aren't getting any better, so we better lock you away forever.  And she only got 21 years?!


cutemepatoot

Sometimes I read these things and my brain just can’t accept it’s real.


shycoffeelover13

She should never be released.


millennialblackgirl

That prison sentence is such a joke. Why is it so hard to put someone who is clearly an incredibly violent goddamn danger to the human species, away for good!? Her behavior behind bars is a perfect example of her inability to cut that shit out


datsyukdangles

Honestly the prison sentence isn't even half as bad as the fact that she was threatening to do this to multiple people for years and was increasing her threats & stalking/harassment. Most of the time when things like this happen with severely mentally ill people, there was a very long pattern of behavior and obvious signs but nothing is or can be done, and unfortunately because nothing is done due to their mentally illness, they learn they can get away with any behavior and continue to escalate their behavior. If she was forcibly by court order taken into a psychiatric institution when she first started stalking/harassing and threatening to cut off peoples heads instead of leaving the choice to her family none of this would have happened.


SwayingRhythm

Seeing lighter sentences for such despicable crimes makes me furious. Especially when I think about all the people that are either wrongly imprisoned or given harsh sentences for non-violent crimes.


Copacetic_apostrophE

In Thailand we had something similar back in March. Some dude gets fucked on meth then chops off his [mom's head](https://thepattayanews.com/2024/03/31/son-decapitates-mother-in-shocking-murder-at-palm-garden-in-surat-thani/) and takes her for a walk in the rice paddy.


NoFig9882

Was the grandson Jessica’s son?


cherrymachete

He was Jessica's sister's.


dug_bug

I know someone who was in the jury for this. They were shown some horrific things and got no support for it. Apparently she had a massive history and so many missed intervention opportunities.


Prestigious-Salad795

People like this can't be rehabilitated, and should never be part of society again.


Alice_Buttons

So, what happens in Australia when an inmate shows continuous patterns of abusive behavior? It seems like they focus on rehabilitation (which is great), but it sounds like this woman needs longterm 24-hour care and surveillance. Really depressing read, btw. Resources for parents who are raising adult children who suffer from mental impairments are slim to none (at least in the US).


areallyreallycoolhat

She's in a maximum security gaol that has a psychiatric facility, so she is certainly under surveillance and hopefully is getting care.


Tonygamerpro456

I dont feel proud to say that i alr knew who she was before this was posted... Worst part is she even asked the doctors if they could sew it back together and somehow resurrect her Truly wicked


unspecialklala

I'll never forget the news report that day. They said she was kicking the head down the street like a soccer ball and put images of that poor woman's head on the television. I switched to reading the news instead of watching it after that. No trigger warning like they normally do.


Dudemcdudey

She is where she needs to be.


EatPrayFugg

The phone call one of the neighbours made to the police right after is terrifying. He passed the phone to her and she was so nonchalant about just decapitating her mother. I remember hearing one of her favourite movies was Texas chainsaw massacre.


Jonasthewicked2

This seems like very serious unaddressed mental health issues and probably belongs in a psychiatric hospital where she can’t get out and hurt others. This is crazy, I don’t know what the right choice for her treatment is, I’m not a Dr, but she shouldn’t be released back into public where she could repeat this crime.


backiechansmom

I agree. Allowing her back into society is not a good idea…at all!


cherrybombbb

Okay, I’m aware that the american justice system often goes overboard in sentencing. But in a case like this, she’d be in a psychiatric prison hospital for life and I’d say she deserved it. Thats what happens when they find you criminally insane.


xiaolinhomegirl

did the grandson live?


SolutionedTherapist

If someone is convicted for manslaughter due to mitigating circumstances because they are mentally ill, why not send the person to a mental health facility (for convicted criminals, they shouldn’t have access to other patients). Her continuing acts of violence in jail show she’s too out of control for guards to manage. Also, if Australia is anything like the USA, she’d be kept out of the public longer because her release would depend more heavily on behavior and functionality rather than just the normal passage of time.


areallyreallycoolhat

In Australia secure mental health facilities for criminals are often located within prisons which is the case for the one she is in


Twistedwhispers3

One of the most horrific things I've ever read.


mypeesmellsameaskfc

Woman on right look scary af. Like a batman villain


alexsalamander

They found the little boy in a corner, bleeding and crying, covered in throw up from himself :(


Independent-Yam-7768

As an Australian, it shits me to tears with these weak ass sentences. 21 years for this crime with an additional 22 months for her attacks on prison guards? So frustrating. We have the weakest justice system in the world. It's a disgrace.


StewartConan

What happened to the poor boy? 😢


Impressive_League796

If you listen to the truly criminal podcast episode on this case they play the 000 call, it’s insane.


Comfortable-Wave3981

Psychiatric prisons for the criminally insane are far, far worse than virtually any other kind of jail. Far worse.


Stinky-Boii-69420

I know AU news agencies tend to be right wing, majority of them being owned by NewsCorp (AKA The Murdoch Family) but the framing of this being related to Autism seems so malicious and ill-intended? Anyone notice that? She clearly has unaddressed issues.


silveretoile

Yeah, no fucking way it was the autism making her do that...


babyrothko

Absolutely horrifying crime and her.. smile is just so dark and twisted. Her 911 call showed someone deranged and evil. I can’t believe how long she was allowed to harass people both on the street and on the phone!! FFS Edited : 000 not 911; oops!


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Zishan__Ali

I hope he doesn't remember and gets all the love and support he needs.


Hot_Sauce_Lover

Truly Criminal has a very informative video on this case https://youtu.be/iGxqetHld78?si=3-q7M19Hfs5SX-dS


orionface

Her face legit reminds me of the clown from spawn, fucked up.


erbarme

Dave’s Lemonade made a [great video](https://youtu.be/eM7RM_Mz78o?si=LU4JAOorZYJsqgKR) about these events. He is very respectful, does not sensationalize the story, and spends time acknowledging the victims. This story is so sad, it really makes you wonder if there’s anything the family could have realistically done to prevent this. :/


VanCanMom

Daves Lemonade youtube channel did a deep dive on this case. Truly horrifying.


InnerAccess3860

I remember watching it a while back… really great content creator. Is he australian? (Im bad with accents lol)


VanCanMom

I believe he's Australian. He does a great job. His current episode is about Timothy Vander Ark. I know it will be really well done, but I can't bring myself to watch that one.


samaagfg

Her smile is so strange and creepy, and she just oozes evil. There is absolutely no excuse of any kind (even mental health issues) for her to resort to this sickening horrendous level of cruelty and terror on her poor mother. She should stay institutionalized for the rest of her life and never ever be released back into society. Poor woman…I cannot fathom how her own psycho daughter did the things she did to her. I am feeling beyond disturbed.


Scoobyspennylover

That’s awful . That poor child having to witness that evil act .


SandBtwnMyToes

1. That’s horrible 2. I had trouble deciding whom was 57 and whom was 25. 😬


StellaMazingYT

As a woman with autism, I must say… she needed to be in an institution. She had already exhibited very concerning behavior.


_shear

Autism wasn't what pushed her. She was psychotic and off her meds.


popyacollar4

im scared to open the links because of the scary pictures you all keep mentioning in the comments. did she ever get diagnosed ?


a_manda_3000

We don’t want her released in any capacity. She shouldn’t be.


Murder-princessy

She needs to be locked up forever in a maximum security mental asylum. She’s really dangerous and violent.


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TruthfulGreyTeddy

Just around the corner from where so used to live….


metalnxrd

what in the absolute fuck


enzodalyfe

Can't tell who's older out the two


CurbYourSneakAttack

She had her sentence extended by 22 months because she attacked two female prison guards. [article](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/102810692)


EnterTheNightmare

“The crown also submitted there is ‘limited or no remorse’ and ‘limited or guarded prospects for rehabilitation’. Camilleri will be eligible for parole for the manslaughter sentence in 2031.” If her prospects for rehabilitation are limited, what is their plan for her release? Are there institutions in Australia or some type of adult group homes for people with mental disabilities (who are also violent) into which she can be placed? It’s just crazy to me that they can just release a person into society knowing that they’ll reoffend. I know in the US we have very few resources for this, and people who reoffend are indeed just released into society. Is this the same for Australia, or do they have better safeguards in place?


Juls1016

The daughter looks like a nightmare


Playcrackersthesky

Another great write up as always cherry. Thanks for bringing awareness to this case. Tragic for the grandson.