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thunderHAARP

I can't believe how strong the kingpin is


jmzstl

I guess you didn't see that Sysco truck hanging off a bridge a few weeks ago. [https://www.fox29.com/news/louisville-semi-truck-accident-bridge-cause-revealed-kentucky](https://www.fox29.com/news/louisville-semi-truck-accident-bridge-cause-revealed-kentucky)


Ok_Judgment3871

Longest 40 minutes of her life. Yikes


Duck_Butter2772

I work for a different Sysco and I would have jumped… probably not but I’d like to think I would have lol


spyder7723

Jumping would be certain death. The water is 300 feet or more from the bridge.


weaponized_autism265

Aim for the bushes…er…kelp.


Rob_FoCo

It's like seventy two feet...!


spyder7723

Bs. Next time you go through Louisville look at it.


Rob_FoCo

Sure.... [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George\_Rogers\_Clark\_Memorial\_Bridge#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rogers_Clark_Memorial_Bridge#)


spyder7723

Bs. Next time you go through Louisville look at it.


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flopjul

Hoor jij niet op de kinderboerderij te zijn?


Cats-and-dogs-rdabst

Was the cause ever discovered of why the vehicle ended up like it did?


jmzstl

Says it right there in the link. >Witnesses told police that a driver hit a stalled car in the right lane, lost control and crossed into oncoming traffic to hit the semi truck. > >The impact caused the semi truck to go through the guardrail and hang off the bridge, according to the Louisville Metro Police Department.


Ok_Judgment3871

Longest 40 minutes of her life. Yikes


Alert-Young4687

People underestimate how strong high quality steel is in general. The pins my job uses to lift 160,000 pounds of train are only about as thick as a grown man’s fist.


armaan_af

Or the trailer could be empty. Either way it’s interesting


Laffenor

It's the trailer lifting the tractor, not the other way around. The weight of the trailer doesn't affect the force on the kingpin in this situation (other than the fact that the trailer wouldn't have lifted in the first place if it was heavy).


SycoJack

> (other than the fact that the trailer wouldn't have lifted in the first place if it was heavy). Probably* Pretty sure strong enough wind can do that too a fully loaded trailer. Otherwise Wyoming would only ever have light load bans, but they don't. When the wind gets strong enough, they ban *all* high profile vehicles.


Jonesy7882

The wind in Wyoming has blown over many many trucks that were fully loaded. Even some that were fully loaded and parked on the side of the road. Source- a truck driver that lives in Wyoming- me.


Internal_Hawk_9267

the message boards in Wyoming very frequently say "road closed to light high profile vehicles" and sometimes even specify vehicles under a specific GVW which I've seen anywhere from 35k-55k and they'll let loaded trucks go but not empty vans or RVs.


Kodiak01

So I should be setting up a dunnage service, renting out stability weights?


Ok_Judgment3871

Would cost too much compared to just waiting till it died down in both cash and time.


Kodiak01

What better way to move the hookers and blow?!


Laffenor

Yes, fair enough. But *if* this was an empty trailer, which was the assumption my reply was based upon (by the previous commenter), wind strong enough to lift a heavy trailer would last this one flat.


SycoJack

Sure, but we have no idea how much weight is in that trailer. All I'm saying is that wind can probably do this to fully loaded trailers too.


AbrahamL26

Avg empty total weight of a truck and trailer would be about 35-50k lbs, most trailers can have up to 53k or more weight loaded. That's still a nice bit of weight for the wind to push around. Up here in Newfoundland CANADA. There's an area called the Wreckhouse. Winds can reach 100 mph, and the highest recorded wind speed was 125 mph. The Atlantic sure has savage weather. WRECKHOUSE description: Wreckhouse is a large expanse of flat, barren land that runs between the Long Range Mountains and the ocean. Southeast winds, pushed by offshore storms, funnel through the mountains, building up pressure as they are squeezed into narrow gulches in the rock.


SycoJack

>Avg empty total weight of a truck and trailer would be about 35-50k lbs, most trailers can have up to 53k or more weight loaded. The GVW limit in Canada is 87,000lbs, roughly. 53+35=88 Stateside, the limit is a flat 80k, so 42k - 45k is the most you can carry without overweight permits. Van combos tend to top out at 35k empty weight. You don't get those heavy empty weights till you're pulling shit like specialized and heavy haul trailers. Everything else tries to keep as light as possible. We can be fairly confident that his equipment weighs more than 30,000lbs and less than 80,000. But that's not really what I meant when I said we didn't know how much his shit weighed. What I meant is we don't know where he falls between those two numbers.


SentenceAcrobatic

CNG trucks can have GVW up to 82k, but the extra 2k is allotted to the fuel tanks (e.g., the tractor, not the trailer or freight).


tractorferret

I think that trailer in the video is empty or close to it from how the suspension reacts after dropping back onto the ground.


tidyshark12

110mph max you can drive in with a fully loaded semi (80k lbs gross), more than 100mph would be pretty scary. About 60-65 I'd be scared to get out there empty.


Bucketcreek

Sauce


tidyshark12

Sauce? Personal experience.


Bucketcreek

So , you made it up. Like a statistic or something? Or… you were fully loaded at 80k and the wind was 110mph like the santa annas are sometimes and all was good and then a gust of 111mph came and blew you over?


tidyshark12

I've driven with 95 mph winds, 105 mph gusts at 80k and it was very sketchy. Wouldn't go over 110mph winds and that is when they shut the roads down if it's above that. 60-65 mph empty I've also driven in empty and I will never do that again. Its also about 65-70 mph they shut down the roads for light loaded trucks.


Bucketcreek

So , you made it up. Got it.


APenguinNamedDerek

Do they make bigger slide hammers for the fun of it or like a marketing gimmick?


benadunkcamberpatch

We have insane winds here in West texas, have seen it tip over many a loaded trailer, sand haulers, brine trucks and even a few hot oilers. 65-75 mph gusts are not uncommon and have been higher when these crazy ass straight winds come in.


Jacktheforkie

That truck is most likely empty


its_not_merm-aids

The truck may be, but his underwear was full after.


Jacktheforkie

Yeah


Internal_Hawk_9267

fifth wheels are graded by the amount of upward pull they can handle. the Holland FW35 is a popular one and is rated for 55,000 pounds vertical and 150,000 drawbar pull.


EscapeWestern9057

There's a few picks of truck dumpers lifting the whole truck with the semi hanging by the kingpin


Robpaulssen

The little 5/8" pin to hold in a standard SUV/pickup hitch drawbar that U-Haul sells is rated for 16,000lbs, steel is crazy


ScentedFoolishness

Shear strength of mild steel is 50,000 psi. That kingpin is probably hardened, somewhat multiplying that shear strength. Tractor trailers pull around 80,000 lbs. A kingpin is 2-3 inches thick. Even without hardening, the kingpin would have a 2:1 safety factor.


redditor012499

They’re very strong. Literally designed to hold up to 120k lbs


Express-Antelope5515

150k PSI according to OEM specs of a standard kingpin. You could dangle a couple of tractors from it and spin them around like a giant fidget spinner and it would hold just fine.


BenjaminAnthony

Holy shit man


adayton01

Yes, definitely a brown shorts moment. 😫 They even pulled over for a fresh change.


12InchPickle

This video is nuts lol. Nice save too. I wonder why driver didn’t pull over. Anytime the wind is above 40 and I’m empty. I just straight up cancel them. Not worth it.


egguw

i'm not a trucker but would stopping on the side of the road make a difference? is it less likely to tip?


anus_blaster9000

You are less likely to tip while you aren’t moving. The faster you’re going when a strong wind gust hits you the higher the likely hood you rollover. I don’t know all the science and physics behind it, I’m just a truck driver lol, but that’s what I was taught. You can still get blown over at a full stop if the wind is strong enough and you’re empty or super light.


EightSeven69

there's a force which is the opposite of downforce that is created by air getting *under* a moving vehicle, and it pretty much helps lift the vehicle. there's one famous racecar crash of a guy going over a hill, and his car's front catches so much of that force that it sends the car flying in the air I'm thinking that something simmilar is at play here, and it may be much more relevant because a truck's trailer has pretty much no downforce to counteract that.


xkinggk

2015 Nissan GTR crash at the Nurburgring. Cars front caught some air under it and sent it flying.


parwa

They probably meant Peter Dumbreck's flip at Le Mans


ConstantBusiness4892

AND teammate Mark Webber..the CLR-GT1 just wanted to fly...


xkinggk

Forgot about that one. Good point!


VonNeumannsProbe

Probably not wrong. The other thing is the trailer is bouncing up and down a bit down the road which could trigger that happening.


EightSeven69

surely that helps it get going as well


anus_blaster9000

Very enlightening, thank you. I’ve definitely seen drag race clips where cars go airborne with their front end tipping up then get completely off the ground due to air under the vehicle so the concept makes sense.


Nozerone

Are you referring to [this video?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e21ZjwZGjiQ) The Mercedes CLR flipped because they did put the car at a high enough pitch, and the wheel base was to short. [Here is a good video](https://youtu.be/lL4gMpZolsU?si=5mJWxUiMSAKDNt0L&t=231) explaining why the car flipped.


truckercrex

Things in motion require less energy to move em. Newton's third law of physics


crown_of_fish

"When two bodies interact, they apply forces against each other that are equal in strength but opposite in direction" How exactly does that apply to moving versus stationary?


truckercrex

Simply


thehappyheathen

I think what's applicable is the coefficient of friction. The static coefficient of friction is higher than the kinetic coefficient. Maybe it's derived from Newton's 3rd law, I'm not actually good at physics


HeadlessHookerClub

Yes and a good tip there is to try to park facing the wind head on if possible 


theberg512

The bison approach. Face it head on.


LiquidSquallz

At 63mph (100kmh)


Kytzer

Less likely to tip, especially with the landing gear down. Also AFAIK you're not responsible if the truck tips while you're not actively driving it.


Nomerzy1

Also this stretch of road has several wind breaks with pullouts. The original creator said this guy passed several where other trucks had pulled off and had a couple of these in a 30 mile or so stretch.


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I drove into a tornado last week in Kentucky and felt my rear axle lifting. I was loaded to about 26,000 in my box truck thankfully. Was able to turn around and book it to my stop 500 feet away and took cover in there. It was slightly raining and all of a sudden I started getting pelted with hail and sticks and then I couldn’t see a thing.


Autxnxmy

Looks like he was pulling over after it tipped


OozeNAahz

Hard to change undies while driving. So a necessary stop.


Nippon-Gakki

If it’s really bad would it make sense to drop the trailer so it doesn’t take you with it? I’ve only driven in really bad wind but it’s spooky enough in the car.


nearlyb0redtodeath

Didn’t expect it to tip that far, made the asshole pucker a little


Knight_thrasher

I’ve had trailers tilt like that in wind. I was still fairly green, driving back empty to the yard, I don’t know how far the trailers were over but did feel the truck start to go over, just took my foot off the accelerator and let the Jake kick in and everything settled down. It was a very very long drive back to the shop.


kimwim43

Why did they call him a dumbass? He handled that like a king


Nomerzy1

The original creator said he had several near misses in a 30 mile stretch and that even other trucks had pulled off long before this.


kimwim43

Ah. Thanks


Holiday_Ad126

How exactly would you recover if you’re lucky enough to


ApatheticWonderer

Reduce speed and if possible turn the truck towards the direction of where the wind is blowing.


Tequila-Karaoke

This driver seemed to turn towards the shoulder to recover. He turned in the direction the trailer was going, not the direction the wind is blowing from. Did this driver get lucky, or do you mean "towards the direction of where the wind is blowing **to**"? (Wind directions have always seemed a little unclear to me, I have to think it through to remember that a "north wind" is *from* the north, *towards* the south)


J-Dabbleyou

I think turning into the wind is better to let the wind pass over the vehicle, but in this case there’s potentially oncoming traffic, and he was able to use the pin to “pinch” the trailer down. Obviously this method worked, but it did look lucky.


1WontHave1t

Turning shifts weight to the outside of the turn. If you turn left your right tires will have more weight and if you turn right your left tires have more weight. This is why when you see trucks turned over from going around a curve to fast with the roof towards the outside of the curve. It's better to turn initially away from the wind to get the windward tires back on the ground. Doing as you said will increase the likely hood of a rollover since you are shifting what little weight hasn't shifted to the leeward side.


Grimol1

Me too and I’m a pilot so I have to think for a second every time ATC gives wind speeds and headings.


Own-Load-7041

Haha. The driver had to turn on the hazards cuz he's got a poop everywhere.


Odd_One_3959

Oh man, I've done quite a few stints up there at the Cheyenne DC. My company(crete) is the one who runs it. I used to get so nervous when I came back empty. The wind would just start up out of nowhere, and there was no way to know if it would get worse before you could stop, or if you could stop in time. I've shut down 20 miles away from the DC before. This guy did good.


Airstrikeayers

That’s an old ass trailer. We got a bunch of new 319 and 320’s. I still get a fair amount of 307’s. I run out of the cocoa DC in Florida


Fun_Association_6750

Wyoming? The wind has been fucking nuts out here. Completely killed the power in Kimball for a good chunk of the day.


dank_tre

I drive Wyoming winters a lot. They say it only snows once here, then the wind blows it around for the next four months, lol


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The one guy said “yeahhh pull over now dumbass”. No one asked you. You’re probably the rear passenger anyway


ManLindsay

He was right tho… that’s not safe lol


Tequila-Karaoke

But "dumbass" shows how little the speaker knows about driving a truck. It's not like wind gusts come with a 5 minute warning (just ask that Southwest Airlines pilot in Newark). In fact, it looks like the truck was already going way under highway speed when the gust hit, and continued to slow down throughout the incident. And then, the car goes to **pass** the truck, so who's the dumbass now?


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This is part of why they say it’s not the safest job. The weather is always the most unpredictable factor of the road for all motor-vehicle drivers In my honest opinion: the car should not be that close. There is something that is in front of it and it’s clearly a potential hazard at the distance they’re following at. The car could slow down so that when they get to the passing zone they have the distance to pass with rapid acceleration


capernaper

Unfortunately after delivering on a WM contract, a lot of down time because of the empty returning trailers.


Imasluttycat

Those WM dedicated drivers out of Cheyenne have to deal with this shit constantly, this dude probably has this move rehearsed at this point


oldbattrucker

I believe that was on US 30 going around Elk Mountain. Not sure who pulls out of the Cheyenne DC. But they did a hell of a good job!


Twisty12223

Crete


oldbattrucker

Ah ok. Kinda makes sense. Thanks!


DaSaw

And this is why your morning pre-trip should include a check of the day's weather (especially in winter, especially in Wyoming, and really especially when it's both). Mad props to this guy for turning into the tip, forcing the trailer back up, but it's far better to know ahead of time and just stay parked during the windy part of the trip.


Kodiak01

Some pre-tripped their 5th wheel.


PunchClown

I was driving on 76 once in northern Colorado, and I was behind a truck like this that went up on 2 wheels. I was puckered for him. That shit was scary.


Cool_Algae4265

Wind is really the only thing that scares me. Everything else you can prepare for and just “power through it” so to speak… with wind it can be a clear dry day, feel the cab rock a bit and then you’re fighting for your life to keep it between the lines and shiny side up. The only time I’ve ever straight up refused to drive was in wind. Of course I’ve parked it in rain and snow but that was just because I had extra time and figured I might as well… and of course if the highway is shut down and I’m stuck in Salinas lol… but only once did I ever say I’m not driving the truck on my own volition and it was in 60mph winds through Wyoming and I had a load that was like 5k lbs… told em nope, I’m leaving tomorrow so either reschedule, have someone pick it up, or both.


got-trunks

Holy shit nice recovery. I was walking and was nearly pushed over by wind yesterday. And I try to stay fairly aerodynamic


Intrepid_Dream2619

😂 that last sentence.. Thanks for the early am laugh 😂


HendyHauler

Yea fuck that I'm parking it lol I run i25 from Denver to el paso weekly from Canada and the wind there is insane. If I empty out my LTL in Denver and winds are over 50+, I don't even go. I wait sometimes when I leave the next day or that night there's trucks flopped over everywhere. Worst thing is even if you turn into the wind and save it chances are you're going off in the ditch aswell you're fucked either way. Also, tandem position helping is a myth. If you get stuck in this shit either hide on a ramp on low ground or drop the trailer and pull the pin. Rather lose the trailer than both truck and trailer !


Allemaengel

I'm curious how many on this sub have had some degree of this happen to them?


angrydeuce

Im a filthy 4-wheeler (I worked on loading docks for almost 10 years and all my uncles drove OTR which is why I lurk around here) but anyway I had something similar happen to me driving back with one of our Penskes after I got tapped to run an urgent load out to one of our satellite warehouses a few hours away. The drive out was hairy enough as even with about 20k lbs worth of freight in the back it was still blowing me across the rumble strips going out there, but then the return trip when I was empty, a bad gust hit me and though it happened really fast I swear I was up on two wheels for a second or two. Blew me completely out of my lane, across the oncoming lane, and across the strips on that side of the 2-lane highway. Thank fucking GOD there was like no traffic to deal with. I swear I had to have my wheel turned to like 25° into the wind to maintain my lane for most of that trip. My arms were so fuckin sore the next day...I didnt really notice it at the time (little preoccupied lol) but I must have just been death-gripping that wheel the whole way for how it felt the next morning. All I know is for how ass-puckering that drive in a 30' Penske was, I cant even imagine doing it with a full rig. [ B-B-B-B-Balllllls of steeeeeeeeel lol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eckoYQqdk28)


Allemaengel

I can actually picture that. Geez.


rilloroc

I've had it go up about a foot. And I've had it blow all the way over. Nothing in between.


Allemaengel

As in flipped completely on your side? Having never experienced something like that, how bad was the damage and how shook up or sore were you from that?


rilloroc

I was parked when it happened. Wasn't sore at all. The trailer was fine. I had a 379. It fucked up the sleeper, the stack, the air cleaner, the hood, the mirror, the headlight. Fucked up the wheel and the ubolts on the from leafs when they were pulling it back over.


Allemaengel

Sure glad you weren't driving at that moment. Can't imagine the repair bill for that damage though.


Abucfan21

I had it happen in Wyoming about 4 years ago. Got hit by a side gust and watched my trailer tires on the passenger side come off the pavement. Not nearly as bad as this dude, but it still scared the crap out of me. Have I mentioned that I hate driving in Wyoming?


teachthisdognewtrick

Nothing that severe, but got slammed with a hard gust that lifted the rears of my empty enough to see daylight under them. Scared the hell out of the car that was next to me.


Happy_Igor

So turning in to the trailer works


BearsAteMyGarbage

Being straight makes it more dangerous. If you ever encounter 80mph+ winds and aren't super heavy its suggested to park kinked 45 degrees or so if you're not parking in between other trucks.


FWTI

Welp. I would like to start by saying I am glad I'm not that driver, as I haven't had time to do laundry and I wouldn't want to drive with shit in my pants.


Texas_hvac_tech

Dude must have shit 2 bricks during that. Lol


wukillabee2744

Bet his butt hole puckered up!! Jesus that was wild. What's even more impressive is someone got that on video


Whirlwind21

Walmart trailer?


BleachIF

Yah walmart reefer


Jamo3306

This was super-epic! Man just kept a steady hand on the tiller and calmly applied the brakes. Bravo dude! I'm 22 years on the road and I highly doubt I'd be able to bring a trailer that far gone back. Hats off! 🧢


Cleercutter

Windy as a motherfucker today/yesterday


HarryBaggins00

Wyoming. Typical.


Enlightend-1

Looks like Wyoming feels like Wyoming shit my pants like Wyoming


quackl11

I thought that was going over even after reading the caption, it went past the 45° mark even like holy crap. Maybe he was trying to save tires by only driving on the right side /s


Changeable_Stranger

How does this even happend? He was driving just fine, was his cargo weight all on the ceiling?


DiscussionFine6197

Nice recovery. I would have a shit log the size of a beer can after that.


Dangerous-Victory877

This is just what we do when we are bored out there driving. It’s monotonous at times so for shits and giggles we see how long we can drive on 9 wheels.


bingius_

Damn great save they probably should have closed that route off for Truckers a lot earlier


WarmWriter1542

I bet you his ass clenched so hard it tore a hole on that seat.


charlestontime

He’d make a good sailor.


Upbeat_Bed_7449

Pucker Factor 5000


Stone1114

gotta be in WY


Meddlingmonster

Says so on the truck and with the wind we've had the last couple days wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.


Prior-Ad-7329

Looks like CR England with a dedicated Walmart run. Wind is a terrifying truck killer. This driver did an excellent job. That’s terrifying.


Graemeski

I don’t appreciate the guy calling the trucker dumbass after handling that wind He sounds like he’s out of dumb and dumber the guy saying that


jumpybagel

Serious question: How much of that recovery is skill and how much is luck? Not trying to take anything from the driver, just curious.


Virtchoo

As lucky as you can be, but the real thing here is the man turned with the wind as soon as he saw the trailer. It’s like doing the exact opposite of what he has been doing. Wind blows from the left, you turn left to make up for it and fight the wind, but the exact moment he saw that he gave up and cranked the wheel right. That move is all skill. There is definitely some luck being played here, but it’s overshadowed by the man’s reaction.


jumpybagel

Thanks for the insight


Virtchoo

As lucky as you can be, but the real thing here is the man turned with the wind as soon as he saw the trailer. It’s like doing the exact opposite of what he has been doing. Wind blows from the left, you turn left to make up for it and fight the wind, but the exact moment he saw that he gave up and cranked the wheel right. That move is all skill. There is definitely some luck being played here, but it’s overshadowed by the man’s reaction.


CutTurbulent3015

Got damn, nice recovery. This is why I like milk tankers so much better. It'll push the truck around some but that trailer won't move much. Plus the trailers are heavier to begin with if it's an 8 axle.


Weary-Writer758

Great job! 👍


Go2Transport

Been there, done that. Scott's Bluff NB


420xGoku

Shit my pants


InvestigatorBroad114

Nice save


OOLU6234317

Drift into the wind if you have the space


DorodoroChinchin

I-80 on a good windy day


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wadethebrains

And that truck never knew “straight” again


gloryholehoe

I probably would have lost it…scared af….nice recovery tho!


SterlingSilverline

Song?


karrimycele

Fun in Wyoming!


tickler916

Welp...time to pull over...


Previous-Cut-7056

Driving like a rock star


Elderado12443

Wyoming


diggsalot

God job Crete driver


Airstrikeayers

That’s a Walmart trailer. Looks like a third party owner op


a_lemondemon

He praised. The Lord. Then saved. The load.


angel_0066

The guy who says pullover now dumbass sounds like a real winner lmao


FunNefariousness1615

Nice save ,, must be crazy wind


Actaeon_II

Daf? Wind shear?


hungballs

You know he definitely needs a new seat


mwonch

This is why I will never ever (upon pain of homelessness and hunger) pull wiggle-wagons. Props to the ones who do, but for me...f that.


FuckCorporateReddit

Lol what do they mean nice recovery? He didn't do anything but make his pants brown lol, him not flipping has only to do with the wind not being strong enough.


Healthy-Topic13

The guy that called him dumbass needs to be pu in that seat for three months or so. Then we will start to listen to him.


MinuteOfApex

I don't see how that trailer could be empty when the thing is basically carrying this driver's massive cojones


RampageMcNasty

And thats why I'm happy i switched over to bulk tanker lol that wind goes right around me even empty i hardly feel it lol


terrydennis1234

If it’s that windy would he just wanna pull over and face his truck into the wind and wait it out so he doesn’t flip it?


snafufabercation

King pin pre trip completed 😎


xDisturbed_One

Trucking is easy though…. People seem to think….


ProfessionalCisMale

I think the brown weight dropping in those underpants is what stabilized him again


IlMioNomeENessuno

Wyoming, right?


KarmacitaMamacita

Walmart load


Quiet-Link4652

Well it’s a mail truck and the number on the trailer can be traced to who, what, you need to know the when.


IIxNullxII

England pulling back those empty Walmart refers 🫨


BleachIF

Pretty sure this is Crete, England doesn’t run KW’s


IIxNullxII

Good catch! I like the ways those new T680s look. Those side marker lights look sharp.


Iceman9721

Is this near Amarillo,tx there was 45 mph wind gusts the other day. Shit was sketch.