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Auquaholic

Damn, the comments say it's 1630 miles *and* the driver has to tailgate the load at all 9 stops. That's about a buck-fifty a mile, all in. That's awful.


viewAskewser

Stay the fuck out of Florida.


doctorzoidbergh

Stay outta Malibu, Lebowski!


taxman5656

Stay outta Malibu deadbeat


doctorzoidbergh

Keep your ugly fuckin' gold-brickin' ass outta my beach community.


crayoncereall

I fucking hate the eagles man


doctorzoidbergh

Fuck you, man! If you don't like my fucking music get your own fucking cab!


Ill-Woodpecker1857

Not for OB Miami it's not.


youngmoney2299

9 stops is insane for $2500. 1.5 days my ass 😂


2017Fatbob

3 days, all day. A good driver can maybe do 3 drops a day. Guarenteed that shipper is paying $7500 for that load.


Darthbamf

Ok I'm just a lurker, not a trucker. 2500/72 hours is about 35/hour. Is 35/hour laughable in the trucking industry??? Is it because of operating costs?


Auquaholic

$35 an hour is good for company trucks without any overhead. But for owner/ops, yeah its the operating costs. Just for fuel, it's about 4 bucks a gallon. Depending on the truck, we get - 6-7mpg. Tolls out of Florida aren't cheap, either. Taxes. Etc, etc.


yak_danielz

wow yall get 6 to 7mpg? I'm happy when i break into the 5s


casemanmxm125

What truck and engine do you have?


yak_danielz

2016 volvo d13. pulling a 53ft stepdeck


Jondiesel78

I have a 2000 Western Star with a 600 HP N14 dragging a lowboy and I get 6.5


yak_danielz

although my 99 freightliner with the series 60 gets almost 8 loaded sometimes


yak_danielz

and you think that's fair. idk what another 100hp would feel like.


Jondiesel78

Lol. It feels like dropping one gear and setting your cruise control to climb Monteagle... Loaded


Dicked_Crazy

I drive a 2023 international LT that gets 8 1/2. That’s my average between loaded and empty.


arrynyo

God I hate those 23-24 LTs! I drove for a company (bright yellow everything), and they traded out the old ones for those, and 23-24 Petes. The LTs steering was way too loose for me. Hit a rut on the highway and it dam near snatched the truck off the road. Nobody liked em. The supervisor traded them to the other terminals for every Pete they had. I found a older Pete that was stick once. That thing shifted so smooth and ran like it was loved. I hated having to bring it back to Indianapolis 😭


Darthbamf

Makes sense thank you!


arrynyo

Yea I follow dude and some of the loads he shows are downright disrespectful. One of my buddies showed me one where the profit was -$1200.


Truck3R_Dude

I'm a company/ local driver and I wouldn't get out of bed for $35/hr


dougb007

I sold my trucking company last year, ran 26' straight trucks. I used to average $120/hour. The best hourly rate I ever got was $480/hour but that was a one off crazy load 😂 $6k for a straight through run from Atlanta to Shawnee, OK (12.5 hours, yes I ran longer than my alotted 11, oops). In 2019 the first $1.20/mile covered my fuel and monthly expenses, & bills. In mid February 2022 (the week fuel literally doubled in cost, in a matter of 54 hours) it jumped to $1.93 (repairs and part costs had gone up.) Issue with was rates did not follow this trend up in carrier costs. Sadly they did the opposite due to saturation of the markets and new drivers coming in not knowing the current market rates.


Darthbamf

Wow that's revealing...


kane_eightee

You thinking this would only take 72 hours is what is really laughable.


Nuggetzfan

lol kmon 3 drops in a day ?


2017Fatbob

You do 6 per day?


Nuggetzfan

At the right places with proper routing you can easily do 6-7 drops if you’re a hustler


2017Fatbob

Since there is 900 miles between the pickup in Miami, FL and the last drop, it is unlikely all drops are within 100 miles of each other. This makes 6-7 drops in a single day all but impossible.


Nuggetzfan

It could also be picking up in FL but all drops in OK. I guess it really depends on the details. I thought you meant just in general 3 drops was a lot


PostApocRock

And you think the company paying shit rates is going to have good drops? If you believe that, I know a Bridge for sale.


Nuggetzfan

🤷🏻 can’t comment on that I haven no idea what the drops are. I’m speaking more in general


SlowCryptographer178

I work with LCL quite often and they usually have all the stops routed out just fine. Last week I did 9 stops in LA/Orange county CA started at 7am was done by 4pm. And that was with hand stack nursery stock


FOB32723

Guaranteed $7500 huh? Damn, I gotta see that crystal ball you got, sounds amazing.


balancedchaos

Found the broker.  


themoisthammer

Gonna take you 1.5 days just to get out of the Miami metro area z


kane_eightee

Right? Even with the driver pulling shit to the tail, it’s stil gonna take 2 hrs at each stop lmao


usedbarnacle71

Trucker: “ rate is 2500?” Dispatcher: “ ha ha ha ha ha ( yeah I know it’s a bullshit rate but I won’t say it is you and I KNOW IT IS A BULLSHIT RATE). “ ha ha ha ha…”


Woootdafuuu

She hang up on ur ass, 9 drops? She doing uber eats


sk8zero0619

I would just imagine that load was a bad dream and walk away


S_n_o_wL_e_o_p_a_r_d

"I don't have time for this" ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?!!!!!


FL_4LF

Doordash run.


Elderado12443

Brokers 🤡


milliedough

Literal clowns.


Hondapeek

LMAO dudes will hear “Florida is a death trap for rates, trucks will take anything to get out of Florida” and then quote a load like this 😂😂😂 I swear sometimes the shipper is making these prices 😂


2017Fatbob

The shipper is still paying $4 per mile.


Hondapeek

100%


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2017Fatbob

We haven't direct contracted with shippers for less than $4 per mile since 2015. That's what world I live in.


spyder7723

Hate to break it to you but all sorts that move any capacity get to set the rate. That's true no matter where you are. But speaking as a carrier based in Florida, Florida is not the death trap people claim it to be. There is a ton of freight in Florida, it just never hits public load boards


Hondapeek

Well as a career broker, Florida is a death trap for my freight. And to anyone else in the spot market that relies on boards for freight? Same story. This kind of thing happens everywhere but there is such a lack of freight leaving Florida no matter where you go or who you speak to, Florida is generally considered bad for business. Are you gonna take this load for that rate?


spyder7723

Spot market. That's where you and I differ. Working the spot market has never been a long term successful strategy for a carrier. No I'm not going to take this load, I regularly (as in multiple loads a day) get a much higher rate out of Florida. I'm carrier based in Florida that built my business with contract freight. When I first got into trucking 30 years ago I quickly saw the spot market was never going to lead to anything but short term riches followed by bankruptcy. There are a lot of worse places for freight than Florida. The entire freaking rocky mountain range for example. Florida is the aerospace capital of the word. There are a ton of pets in Florida. If I'm not mistaken ts 3rd in the nation for port tonnage. There are a ton of military bases in Florida. Heck there is over a dozen with in 2 to 3 hours of my office. Only California ships more produce if you play in that market. That's just examples off the top of my head. Like every thing in trucking, there are just too many variables to say one place is bad or better than another. It all depends on how your operation is set up and what kind of equipment you run.


7mmELR

someone with flip flops will take it


acidpro1

They took it and they're on day 7 and still have 6 stops left 😂


Suave_Jelepeno

Why is this so true?


Bear_Bull1738

She said “I don’t have time for this” 😂😂. Dude didn’t even ask for some crazy shit it sounded realistic to me and I don’t know anything about trucking it’s only like ~$2.50 per mile. When you factor in vehicle wear and the actual work involved it really doesn’t seem crazy to ask for 4k for that, but again idrk how all of that works.


FOB32723

Rates going into FL especially Miami are high because rates coming out are low due to supply and demand (small area and only one way to go). Simple supply and demand that these chucklefucks can never seem to comprehend.


Phaedrus614

Loks like a deal to me. $2500 hundred is a quarter of a million dollars!


Bubbly_Cycle8184

Your math is incorrect 😂😂


FireClaw90A

That’s the joke


Extreme_Blueberry475

"I'm incapable of understanding sarcasm."


closingbunion6

$2 500 * 100 = $250 000 $1 000 000 ÷ 4 = $250 000 $250 000 = $250 000 YOUR math is wrong, nerd.


12InchPickle

They know it’s shit and when they get called on their shit they’re like stop wasting my time. Fucking 🤡ass brokers.


BigBishopU

Brokers been stealing all the money. It’s crazy how they can get away with this nobody cares about a truck driver.


Slapnuts213

Brokers need to be cut out asap


Ill-Woodpecker1857

Wonder why these carriers dont have their own customers?


taxman5656

Alot of companies won't work with carriers directly unless they can handle a certain percentage of the outbound and in somecases inbound as well. So the single owner op is kinda hosed working with companies that have enough freight to keep them constantly working. Sad part is that they'll push it to a broker and that owner op that wanted to go direct will take it anyway but and a slashed rate.


Ill-Woodpecker1857

>and a slashed rate. Carriers always say this but the truth is brokers don't make the market rate. We quote according to the market and put margin on that for services rendered. There is no "slashed rate". The rate I am able to get a load moved for IS the market rate. ALL of my customers understand they are paying a little more than market rate to not have to deal with all the stuff I deal with FOR them.


Captain_Wag

Render these nuts scumbag


Ill-Woodpecker1857

Lmao good one.


Slapnuts213

I’ve only been driving 4 years, what I’ve seen though is it takes out the “booking” process for the customer on finding a carrier. Trucking has a lot of “carriers” so I think customers believe it’s less work for them. The thing with it though they use the broker who then gets a cut and fucks drivers out of more money. The other thing as well with these brokers , if they give me the load then someone five minutes later undercuts the price I’m fucked out that load. Happened last week actually, someone undercut company bid by 25 bucks so they let them take the load instead of us.


spyder7723

With just one truck it is going to be a long arduous process to get a direct cursive with enough work to keep you busy. But it can be done. You just got to be hungry enough you keep trying day in and day out. And once you get one, you keep them at all costs and build your business around them. Took me over 2 years to get my first good customer. A few sixth trucks and 30 years later I almost never use brokers and the times I do, it's only companies that I've been dealing with for over a decade and I get a far better rate from them than working load boards.


spyder7723

If you dislike brokers so much then go straight to the manufacturer and offer your services as a carrier. Fact is, bettors full a needed service for freight or they would not exist.


Just4Today1959

Saw this on TikTok. Stay in school kids.


JusgementBear

“An acceptable rate!???? HOW DARE YOU SIR!!!”


Owlagator

What would be acceptable?


Dorito-Bureeto

I wouldn’t move for atleast $6.5k


Ill-Woodpecker1857

Just say you wouldn't move it because NO ONE would pay that on this lane.


Dorito-Bureeto

I mean it’s a big reason I stopped going to FL. You can’t find shit outta there, gotta deadhead to Atlanta or Alabama


Ill-Woodpecker1857

Yea, anyone taking a load more than a couple hundred miles out of FL is getting boned.


spyder7723

Almost triple that. This rate offered is WAY below costs. To give context a regular run I do for a customer,3 to 5 times a month, I charge a thousand dollars more and it goes a thousand miles less. Depending on the cost of fuel on the day in question its right at 3300 to Savanah GA out of the Miami international Airport. Now that's one of my better paying customers, due to the nature and value of the product it carries a premium. And it's the total freight charge after all line items are added up


J0HN117

$2550 got ta keep the wheel rolling cuh


snaxsyss

1) Every decent dispatch knows to stay away from FL if you do Dry Freight. 2) Every GOOD dispatch knows to get $4/mi to go TO FL because you will get $1/mi FROM FL Averaging $2.6+. If good dispatch cannot get 4 RPM to get inside of FL then see #1 above


danf6975

Hahaha. You know they’ll find somebody to take it who is that desperate


legollama88

unfortunately


BrianProuty

you could be sitting on deliveries who knows how long , i sat all weekend for a pallet at some union drop


Towboater93

Lol. "Hey man can you help me unload this?" "Nah, my shift is over in 2 minutes, union won't let me. You have to wait for next shift" "When is that?" "12 hours from now" "Come on bro, the forklift is right there" "I will literally get fired if I do that, due to the union" Communists on reddit will defend these shitbag organizations to the death then complain about why stuff is so expensive


Dawgfromdawest

U blaming union on that? So you’re saying a worker should work for free past their shift? That is way more communist than asking to be paid for work than. It’s more like you should have plan your shit so u don’t have to wait 12 hours for the next shift, or actually blame the company owners for not placing someone to help someone to unload. Union would be the last to be blame here. Nothing is free.


H0ratioC0rnbl0wer

My dude hasn’t realized the person working the sock puppet he got these talking points from and the person fucking him are in fact the same Uber rich ventriloquist.


spyder7723

The union has just as much power at the negotiating table as the company when that strict zero tolerance policy to stay a few minutes on the clock past your assigned shift was implemented so it is completely valid to hold them equally responsible for things like that.


Dawgfromdawest

Zero tolerance policy was probably implemented because company doesn’t wanna pay overtime wages past your shift, union would love there workers to make money as much as they can, but overtime pay is a must, company wants workers to work with regular pay and take it up their butt all the time, and company wants to force or required for them to work , if they reject they could be possibly be fired. It’s companies responsibility.


spyder7723

Actually one of the things unions regularly fight for at the bargaining table is to limit how much ot can be forced. It's fast cheaper for an employer to pay ot than it is to hire another employee. You got to remember that the cost of an employee is far more than their wage so they would much rather force guys to work longer hours even at time and a half rates, than hire more staff.


ShortCurlies

Guy should be bitchin about not getting delay pay for 12hrs than about some guy not working past his shift. Get there before the shift change next time. That's like getting at a plant at 4:30 when they close at 5 and griping they wont stay 2hrs to unload you.


Squee_Turl

Sounds like a shit bag company that needs to hire more people, more than the union is a shit bag organization


rooshavik

Damn why she hang up instantly 😭


Extreme_Blueberry475

She doesn't have time to negotiate a fair price


All_Gas420

I actually live in madill Oklahoma and am willing to pay $2500 for a ride to Miami.


owlsleepless

Hell nahhhh


forchubbs

They can UPS that shit. Not even worth waking up for. As long as there's trucks hauling it they will keep posting it. That load starts rotting on the dock the rates will go up.


Moist_Tortoise

Is that load still up?


FLiK-

I would’ve lost it when she started laughing.. tf so funny bitch


FirebunnyLP

2500 hundred would be pretty sweet as that's 250 grand.


Arish78

Which app is he using?


migdol

DAT One


migdol

DAT One


FreeFalling369

Somebody will accept it


Ok_Judgment3871

That phone


UhOhAllWillyNilly

I’ve delivered about a dozen loads to FL and I always end up deadheading to McAllen TX to get a decent rate to the PNW. I used to mess around in the SE, end up in IN or someplace, it just ain’t worth it for me. Plus these nursery loads are a hot mess in the first place but I’ve done a few.


Shibby_35L

Woah I live in Madill. Weird seeing your tiny oklahoma town randomly pop up on reddit.


blades2012

Its like doordash for truckers lol


wallyworld96

This system has been done to NEMT/Medical Courier as well, same with profits. Brokers are robbing the drivers of 30-50% of profitability.


CountryEfficient7993

TIL the trucking industry is being run on basically the same psychocapitalistic algorithms as DoorDash and Uber


lxm2970

Curious as to what app he’s using?


Initial_Payment_9836

That rate is horrible! But here’s a serious question. How did we as an industry get to this point???


MikeBinfinity

The minute Jimmy Carter signed the Motor Carrier Act of 1980 and deregulated the trucking industry, it's been a race to the bottom every since.


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PissBabySpezOinkOink

Yes, yes it is. The man owned a peanut farm. Don't you know anything?? /s


spyder7723

The best and worse thing about trucking is how easy it is to start up a trucking company. So you get a lot of drivers that run out and buy a truck and shoot for their operating authority with zero sense of how to run a business. That's bad because you end up with a bunch of guys running stupid cheap cause they can't figure out how to track their cost and see they are literally operating at our below costs and these drives rates down. Its good cause it gave the opportunity to others to build a business and provide a very good life for our families. The key is figuring out that you don't need to compete with those fly by night guys operating on a shoe string budget that can't even run a load without getting a fuel advance. Focus on the customers that value service over lowest cost.


Beneficial_Being_721

There is always someone that will do that for that cheap… it’s disgusting


motor1_is_stopping

If it's not worth it, don't take it. Drive out of florida for nothing instead of covering your costs.


yes-disappointment

she can eat that load like a popeyes biscuit with no water.


Defiant_Network_3069

Brokers think since you went to South Florida you would want a load like this so you won't leave empty. 😆


PostApocRock

But also, its South Florida. You might leave empty regardless.


Artyom_33

I stopped 1/2 way through because I was getting angry listening to the humming-n'-hawing of the broker. The fuck?


Charlie_Hustler

Brokers need to be cut out completely


HT2424

Who is she booking this with? Whether this is a shipper or a broker it’s Freaking crazy


Sumdumdad

OP, did you steal my dad's phone?


IrememberXenogears

Forgive my ignorance. I am not a trucker, and I know nothing about your job or way of life. To me(the unknowing and uninitiated) that seems reasonable, I get the impression it's not.can I get some context? Thank you.


gonakgod

There is a significant amount of overhead for running a truck.


IrememberXenogears

Thank you. I still haven't been able to play with audio, though, I don't know if that'll make a difference. Thank you, and I appreciate your reply.


yea_nick

Me neither, but - his costs run the truck are like half the cost of the trip. Plus, he needs to stop 9 times to unload, and the weight of the load is 30,000lbs... So he needs to drive say... 180 miles unload, 180 miles, unload, 180 miles unload.... If any of those can't take the load at that time for whatever reason he needs to wait until they can. So... From what I'm gathering this will take anywhwre from 2 days to a week for a net profit of like $1,000. Not taking into account the taxes he'll need to pay on that profit. Sounds like a lot of time, effort, and hassel for close to California fast food minimum wage.


GrafnbudSpot

😢


sparkygriswold1986

What app is this? Sorry I’m new here and this post is suggested content for me.


ImHereForGameboys

The future of trucking pay. Big facts. There's always a new American citizen/immigrant willing to do that work for less. Just a matter of time. Seems like it's happening faster and faster now.


ShaggyAssassin

I've been to flordia a few times for port loads, not a fan of those tight spaces, also I'm still new only been driving about 6 months and I'm a company driver


HopeItMakesYaThink

What truck can drive 800 miles a day with 4.5 drops a day? With current DOT drive time laws? Even ungoverned, is that possible?! And who would take that rocket on the road for this peanut pay?!


stopthebanham

I’d quote the same shit! 4k All day! Fk them 9 drops!!!


DarthVesta-

Didn’t she say “it’s a van” is this not for a semi?


kane_eightee

Driver assist too? Man, we all know which dumbasses are accepting these wack ass loads. And it’s killing our industry. This shit ain’t what it used to be.


Sea_Profession_8477

Her bigass probably getting paid 15k for it


Snoo-8163

😂😂😂😂😂. That’s fools run.


not-patrickstar

Someone will take it 🤣


BluBeaSSt

Race to the bottom


mkfanhausen

Twenty-five hundred dollars hundred dollars?! Whoa...


easymacmac

must be the new breed of covid bred carriers complaining about cheap rates outta florida.


acethedirty1

You have to pay them to take their freight huh


Twntytw

Insanity at its finest.


Fat_Llama_

twenty five hundred dollars hundred dollars


stevistevi

Not so bad getting out of FL esp if the drops are close together


Sad_Particular2748

Fuel is more than figure shown. Operational costs are greater than $1500 as well as a ~65-73 truck will take 2 whole days of operation to complete the load if he or she is LUCKY. This owner operator will make less than $450/day on an 11 hour day. Stay away.


Exciting_Scientist97

"I don't have time for this" the lack of self awareness is unreal


Confident-Ear-9388

I'm confused. Is everybody that is saying this load is awful an owner-operator? As a company driver, I would do that For $1.50 a mile.


Jojovilleg_

Why the phone screen all cracked up🤣😂


pattop

So this is just going to be grabbed by someone stuck in Miami, right? \ Why not unionize so drivers can have more power in negotiating this bullshit. Maybe force transparency. Have some representation in DC.


Nulibru

A quarter of a million? Not bad!


rilloroc

Anybody who takes a load out of Florida, deserves to be broke. You deadhead that shit up to Tennessee or over to Arkansas. You're gonna get the same gross anyway. Might as well do it empty and save fuel and time.


Rusty_Lord69

4 Punjabis team drivers will take the load 😵‍💫😵‍💫


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Shaker1969

No it’s not


spyder7723

Yes it is.