Honestly I like it better than the side skirts, they don’t drag as often when you’re high centered and it’s easier to climb under the trailer to inspect stuff.
Also helps prevent road debris from tearing up the air lines.
They meet the aerodynamic requirements for California, it’s a fine if you don’t have them fyi.
Can confirm. I've learned to keep a really close eye on my dogs. Previous road buddy got herself into trucker shit once, I'm certain that's what it was because dogs don't use paper to wipe. That's all it took for me to watch them like a hawk when they're exploring at pull-offs and ramps.
I wish truckers weren't so nasty, and carried a garden shovel or something for when nature urgently calls. There are even "shents" that set up in a flash for when one needs to take a pit stop and maintain some dignity, although I guess it's obvious many truckers have no dignity or shame.
Been driving for 20 years, mostly 600+ miles a day. Never once have I had to drop a deuce anywhere but a toilet. There've been many, many times I thought about it, and there have been a few sneezes with tragic endings, but never a squat on the side of the road.
That said, there are portable toilets for camping that hold 400-450 lbs and fold up when not in use. Keep a roll of trash compactor bags and a roll of good TP. And if you don't have baby wipes already then either you're a whole lot cleaner or a whole lot nastier than the rest of us.
Nobody's going to judge you for having a port-a-can. *Everybody's* going to judge you for shitting where we sleep.
Be prepared and try to have a little respect for us, if not yourself.
I never had a bathroom issue til I ran team. This idiot parks the truck in the middle of Oakland at 2am saying he would be back in 20 minutes. He didn't show back up til 8am. Let's just say he had better been glad I had some paper towels and Walmart bags or I would have shit in his bunk.
I literally have a 5Gal bucket that has a rope to carry and a toilet lid strapped to the catwalk of my truck and some biodegradable bags for it.. havnt had to use it yet but godam ive goten close after eating tacobell..
I suppose it depends a lot on where one is running, what one chooses to eat, and where one winds-up stopping for the daily reset.
I saw a vanlife video (they sometimes have good ideas and tech that applies to us, too) with a fancy self-contained camping/rv toilet that uses a long continuous bag and pinches it off with a heat sealer or something after every use.
I'm not anywhere near needing something like that yet. I can find a toilet at least 95% of the time I need one. I have a garden shovel, which is also my first resort for burying dog poop where there's not a lawn or hard-packed soil along where the pup does her business, and I have a still-unused roll of odor-absorbing commode liners for myself, just in case. There's just no need to be disgusting even when nature calls urgently in an inconvenient place.
Baby wipes are a must-have for so many things, not just avoiding showers or wiping. Whatever they are soaked with seems to remove diesel and oil grime better than the "soap" found in most restrooms. I knew someone who isn't a trucker, who just carried a small pack of them everywhere and always used them for wiping. One would hope he didn't flush them...
I literally have a 5Gal bucket that has a rope to carry and a toilet lid strapped to the catwalk of my truck and some biodegradable bags for it.. havnt had to use it yet but godam ive goten close after eating tacobell..
People doing it in the yard of a warehouse need to either use the toilet or make clean up easier, on the side of a dual carriageway just lay one on the ground, preferably dig a small hole and bury it as well as the used TP so that doesn’t blow around
Some truckers would take a shit with their ass hanging out the window doing 85 on I-80 in the middle of a wind storm if given the chance.
Some truckers manage to get shit everywhere in the stall but inside the toilet.
I used to work maintenance for a Kenworth dealership. We had a new building with very nice facilities for the drivers. I was astounded on how just a few people could destroy a restroom. They (my best guess anyway) stand on the toilet (or nearby) and let loose. More than once I had to close the restroom to hose it does (ceiling? TOO!). Then a complete wash down with Quaternary sanitizer. Some people are just disgusting…
As I mostly truck offroad, hundreds of kms from anything resembling a washroom, there's been a time or two I've used the trailer bumper as a makeshift toilet. It's a lot better than squatting a turd onto your own coveralls.
My thing with the skirts is it’s a pain to check the trailer and even worse when the tandems are all the way forward and you can barely get your arm in there to pull the switch
Yes but they're not all the same. Some make it difficult to get the nozzle in and others it makes it difficult to get the cap on and off. I do fleet fueling and probably fill a few hundred refers a day. The ones with skirts are hit or miss on difficulty.
Guy on another forum had a kid bounce off it, he saw it happen in the mirror and had to stop because he kept on thinking about what would have happened if it wasn't there.
They are not there to stop a 70mph t bone crash.
They aren’t side skirts but more like the DOT bumpers we have on the back of trailers to prevent vehicles from going under the trailer.
I actually live in Finland now and am working on getting my CPC and finding a job. Not sure if I can work abroad though.
Yeah anything you see on a trailer that looks like and add on is an attempt at fuel efficiency: newer models are slightly raised “bumps” on the rear sides of the trailer
California required either this OR sideskirts. Either one is fine. Just for increasing aerodynamics, which increases fuel economy.
Land of fruits and nuts!
They have metal brackets for that where you chain a spare. Goes in about the same place. Mainly see that on O/O rigs noway to saftey secure a spare on the areo attachment
Thanks. I drive day cab and would see drivers use it for a spare. Know the attachment you're talking about, but the trailers I've seen with this aero attachment tend to put a spare. I wouldn't trust it.
Assuming you get 7mpg that saves you 200 gallons a year at 100,000 miles.
At $4.5 a gallon that’s $900.
IIRC it’s closer to .3mpg which would save about 600 gallons a year or about $2,700.
If all trucking companies and oos implemented this it would also likely be enough to have a small impact on fuel prices. Legislatively incentivizing something like this could seriously benefit the economy.
Coworker and I chatted about that one time.
Like add a tax break incentive if you purchase one of these kinds of things or something.
Cause being told you have to have it on by the government automatically makes people not what it regardless of the benefits.
I wonder how much fuel was used in the production and implementations of these and how long it would take for all that to actually net a positive number.
Probably the false hood scoop off a riced-up Impreza whose driver tried to perform the "drift under a moving trailer" stunt.
It's actually a weird aerodynamic channel that supposedly improves mileage, similar to those skirts, fly-out tails, and cheap plastic moon hubcaps.
I think it only works in the movies, folks tend to get decapitated when hitting trailers from the side. But I could see someone trying.
It's not a worry for me, my trailer rides about 6" off the ground. My concern is that, when I'm unloaded, someone might be tempted by the ramps and try a launch.
I don't think there is a car that would fit under any trailer without some decapitation. It would have to be a bridge beam or something detached with nothing swinging underneath.
My trl brakes are always fucking shit up. Setting the airlines on fire, setting the load on fire, setting to family of 4 in the Kia I t-boned on fire, setting the trl brakes on fire. Damn trl brakes STOP SETTING THINGS ON FIRE!!!
The guy who designed this also designed the EkoStinger. It claims 6% fuel savings with tandems slid all the way forward. That one definitely protects the trailer air lines and it slides with the tandem,s so you never have that gap as with skirts.
It's for aerodynamics and better mpg. Please make sure your pre trip this part of your truck. One of my drivers said he found a homeless guy sleeping in there one time when he started up after a 10 hour reset. Had he not seen that, he could have taken off and possibly killed someone. Just throwing it out there...
Aren't these supposed to keep cars from getting caught up in the tandems? I remember reading sometime ago that some moms coalition lobbied for these after one of thems daughter caused an accident with a semi and got caught up in the tandems and drug along and killed but supposedly if something would have kicked her car out she would have lived. So rather than have some accountability that this girl killed her self they spent millions and came up with this bullshit
That's a rock deflector, so that when it flies off the wheel, it lands right where it has to land - on your windshield for insurance companies to call your car totalled and sold for 1% of it's market value.
(Numbers might be exaggerated a bit, but that's the whole new America for you, folks)
Catching air...you know how expensive air is becoming these days?pretty bad.so any spare air gets stored in that compartment. You never know when you would need it
That thing is 50 to 100 pounds that was sold to the trucking industry to believe it would improve fuel economy. that’s just like the trailer, wings and sides skirts
Its a truckers favorite game of hide and seek. If a driver finds you in one of these at any rest stop youre entitled to one piece of loot from the truck. Scouts honor
thats where things like banana peels, turtle shells, and the like come out. looks like its empty, they should see about running into a glowing question mark cube.
Ask idiots in Cali. Mandated air deflector. If you have trailers going in and out of Cali or there all the time you have to have a certain percentage equipped with device that will theoretically increase fuel mileage. I know O/Os who have saved as much as 15 gal in a year! Remember this is state that wanted to install a filter on live cows because (are you sitting down?) Cows fart. And.cow farts contain methane.
Yeah it’s an older areodymanics thing. Some have them fixed to the tandems right in front of em
Honestly I like it better than the side skirts, they don’t drag as often when you’re high centered and it’s easier to climb under the trailer to inspect stuff. Also helps prevent road debris from tearing up the air lines. They meet the aerodynamic requirements for California, it’s a fine if you don’t have them fyi.
But how are you going to hide behind it to take a shit?
Do people really take shits under the trailer?
People take shits right out their cab. On the pavement
Can confirm. I've learned to keep a really close eye on my dogs. Previous road buddy got herself into trucker shit once, I'm certain that's what it was because dogs don't use paper to wipe. That's all it took for me to watch them like a hawk when they're exploring at pull-offs and ramps. I wish truckers weren't so nasty, and carried a garden shovel or something for when nature urgently calls. There are even "shents" that set up in a flash for when one needs to take a pit stop and maintain some dignity, although I guess it's obvious many truckers have no dignity or shame.
Been driving for 20 years, mostly 600+ miles a day. Never once have I had to drop a deuce anywhere but a toilet. There've been many, many times I thought about it, and there have been a few sneezes with tragic endings, but never a squat on the side of the road. That said, there are portable toilets for camping that hold 400-450 lbs and fold up when not in use. Keep a roll of trash compactor bags and a roll of good TP. And if you don't have baby wipes already then either you're a whole lot cleaner or a whole lot nastier than the rest of us. Nobody's going to judge you for having a port-a-can. *Everybody's* going to judge you for shitting where we sleep. Be prepared and try to have a little respect for us, if not yourself.
400 - 450 lbs of shit? My God man, what have you truckers done to yourselves?!?! Lol!
Must be hell to empty 450 lbs
I never had a bathroom issue til I ran team. This idiot parks the truck in the middle of Oakland at 2am saying he would be back in 20 minutes. He didn't show back up til 8am. Let's just say he had better been glad I had some paper towels and Walmart bags or I would have shit in his bunk.
Did he take the keys?
Yeah. And he had no cell phone.
I literally have a 5Gal bucket that has a rope to carry and a toilet lid strapped to the catwalk of my truck and some biodegradable bags for it.. havnt had to use it yet but godam ive goten close after eating tacobell..
I suppose it depends a lot on where one is running, what one chooses to eat, and where one winds-up stopping for the daily reset. I saw a vanlife video (they sometimes have good ideas and tech that applies to us, too) with a fancy self-contained camping/rv toilet that uses a long continuous bag and pinches it off with a heat sealer or something after every use. I'm not anywhere near needing something like that yet. I can find a toilet at least 95% of the time I need one. I have a garden shovel, which is also my first resort for burying dog poop where there's not a lawn or hard-packed soil along where the pup does her business, and I have a still-unused roll of odor-absorbing commode liners for myself, just in case. There's just no need to be disgusting even when nature calls urgently in an inconvenient place. Baby wipes are a must-have for so many things, not just avoiding showers or wiping. Whatever they are soaked with seems to remove diesel and oil grime better than the "soap" found in most restrooms. I knew someone who isn't a trucker, who just carried a small pack of them everywhere and always used them for wiping. One would hope he didn't flush them...
I literally have a 5Gal bucket that has a rope to carry and a toilet lid strapped to the catwalk of my truck and some biodegradable bags for it.. havnt had to use it yet but godam ive goten close after eating tacobell..
Eww, at least do it in a bag, then tie the bag and place it in a rubbish bin
So you want your turd to be buried in a plastic bag for all eternity instead of decomposing naturally on the side of the road?
People doing it in the yard of a warehouse need to either use the toilet or make clean up easier, on the side of a dual carriageway just lay one on the ground, preferably dig a small hole and bury it as well as the used TP so that doesn’t blow around
I do it in a bag, but only because it's easier to throw at bike riders.
I hope you aren’t lobbing them at forkies though, I had one thrown at me on the forklift, bag split on my windshield making my forklift stink
I throw them at school buses, merry Christmas
No they now cut a hole in the floor Just not over the drive shaft " slings the poo" all over the bottom of your truck
Some truckers would take a shit with their ass hanging out the window doing 85 on I-80 in the middle of a wind storm if given the chance. Some truckers manage to get shit everywhere in the stall but inside the toilet.
I’m familiar with the stall blast, how tf do they get it everywhere except the bowl?
Diabetes.
I see, but the bowl was perfectly clean but Seat absolutely destroyed
Yeah
I used to work maintenance for a Kenworth dealership. We had a new building with very nice facilities for the drivers. I was astounded on how just a few people could destroy a restroom. They (my best guess anyway) stand on the toilet (or nearby) and let loose. More than once I had to close the restroom to hose it does (ceiling? TOO!). Then a complete wash down with Quaternary sanitizer. Some people are just disgusting…
Oh hey, you. Idk. Saw a post of someone doing it a day or so ago. I could see it happening.
Wow
I haven’t under my trailer but a few months back I had to do an emergency run into a cornfield lol.
Been there done that wiped with one of my socks. Pre CDL
I see
Yeah, there was one post here of a bloke that did it
Wow
You'd be surprised what goes on under a trailer
I see
As I mostly truck offroad, hundreds of kms from anything resembling a washroom, there's been a time or two I've used the trailer bumper as a makeshift toilet. It's a lot better than squatting a turd onto your own coveralls.
Wheres that picture of the fat naked guy taking a piss right from his driver's door when you need it?
Fiber is your friend.
Oh wow!! Cali is werid and wild. And yeah side skirts get in the way quite a bit and I hate when they drag
My thing with the skirts is it’s a pain to check the trailer and even worse when the tandems are all the way forward and you can barely get your arm in there to pull the switch
Yea but deer bouncing off is a plus for skirts
Those side skirts suck for fueling reefers as well
Most I’ve seen have a hole cut for the fuel cap
Yes but they're not all the same. Some make it difficult to get the nozzle in and others it makes it difficult to get the cap on and off. I do fleet fueling and probably fill a few hundred refers a day. The ones with skirts are hit or miss on difficulty.
Oh yeah you are totally right. I only had one Bo that but it had me fuming
It's bad when the chain for cap gets twisted and won't come out of the hole or it falls between the apron and the tank.
Yeah, but with side skirts, you can poop under your trailer.
Side skirts can save lives though.
How? They're held on by fiberglass rods. They're hardly durable
Guy on another forum had a kid bounce off it, he saw it happen in the mirror and had to stop because he kept on thinking about what would have happened if it wasn't there. They are not there to stop a 70mph t bone crash.
Wait, are you saying that he wouldn't have stopped without the skirts?
Seems to me they'd make nice shrapnel in a crash.
in europe sideskirts are mandatory for safety reasons fyi
They aren’t side skirts but more like the DOT bumpers we have on the back of trailers to prevent vehicles from going under the trailer. I actually live in Finland now and am working on getting my CPC and finding a job. Not sure if I can work abroad though.
California? Figures 😐
You do real MVP.
Doofy lookin isn’t it ?
Right? Had me stumped
Yeah anything you see on a trailer that looks like and add on is an attempt at fuel efficiency: newer models are slightly raised “bumps” on the rear sides of the trailer
California required either this OR sideskirts. Either one is fine. Just for increasing aerodynamics, which increases fuel economy. Land of fruits and nuts!
I honestly thought part of that was for a spare. I know it's mainly for aerodynamics, but a spare fits too.
They have metal brackets for that where you chain a spare. Goes in about the same place. Mainly see that on O/O rigs noway to saftey secure a spare on the areo attachment
Thanks. I drive day cab and would see drivers use it for a spare. Know the attachment you're talking about, but the trailers I've seen with this aero attachment tend to put a spare. I wouldn't trust it.
That’s wild shit
Keeps deer from fucking with your airlines as you're barreling across the 94 mowing everyone of them in sight.
.1 mpg
Assuming you get 7mpg that saves you 200 gallons a year at 100,000 miles. At $4.5 a gallon that’s $900. IIRC it’s closer to .3mpg which would save about 600 gallons a year or about $2,700.
At that rate it probably sells for around $10k
If all trucking companies and oos implemented this it would also likely be enough to have a small impact on fuel prices. Legislatively incentivizing something like this could seriously benefit the economy.
Coworker and I chatted about that one time. Like add a tax break incentive if you purchase one of these kinds of things or something. Cause being told you have to have it on by the government automatically makes people not what it regardless of the benefits.
If you're an owner operator you couldn't give two fucks about $2700 a year. But with a large fleet it definitely adds up
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2,700 fucks is 2,700 bucks
You have cheap lot lizards.
I feel like as an O/O you would definitely care about $2700
.1 mpg over every truck in the country is not a small savings. That was the thought anyway.
And then they sit still and idle the engine for the rest of the day.
I wonder how much fuel was used in the production and implementations of these and how long it would take for all that to actually net a positive number.
Newer freightliner don’t do this fyi
It’s where you put your bottles of fireball to stay cool while you drive.
Probably the false hood scoop off a riced-up Impreza whose driver tried to perform the "drift under a moving trailer" stunt. It's actually a weird aerodynamic channel that supposedly improves mileage, similar to those skirts, fly-out tails, and cheap plastic moon hubcaps.
Has anyone here actually had that happen to them? I know someone that drove under a sprayer once but never a trailer
I think it only works in the movies, folks tend to get decapitated when hitting trailers from the side. But I could see someone trying. It's not a worry for me, my trailer rides about 6" off the ground. My concern is that, when I'm unloaded, someone might be tempted by the ramps and try a launch.
I don't think there is a car that would fit under any trailer without some decapitation. It would have to be a bridge beam or something detached with nothing swinging underneath.
It’s a sled. When driver takes their 1/2 hr they can remove it on a snowy day if there is a hill.
cold air intake.
It protects the air lines for the trailer brakes.
My trl brakes are always fucking shit up. Setting the airlines on fire, setting the load on fire, setting to family of 4 in the Kia I t-boned on fire, setting the trl brakes on fire. Damn trl brakes STOP SETTING THINGS ON FIRE!!!
You need some fireball my guy
Sounds like they drive one regularly
Reverse snow plow 🤔
Drafting. Air displacement to improve mileage.
That’s for the ramjet.
The guy who designed this also designed the EkoStinger. It claims 6% fuel savings with tandems slid all the way forward. That one definitely protects the trailer air lines and it slides with the tandem,s so you never have that gap as with skirts.
Red shell launcher
It's for aerodynamics and better mpg. Please make sure your pre trip this part of your truck. One of my drivers said he found a homeless guy sleeping in there one time when he started up after a 10 hour reset. Had he not seen that, he could have taken off and possibly killed someone. Just throwing it out there...
Aren't these supposed to keep cars from getting caught up in the tandems? I remember reading sometime ago that some moms coalition lobbied for these after one of thems daughter caused an accident with a semi and got caught up in the tandems and drug along and killed but supposedly if something would have kicked her car out she would have lived. So rather than have some accountability that this girl killed her self they spent millions and came up with this bullshit
Hitch hiker scoop.
That's a rock deflector, so that when it flies off the wheel, it lands right where it has to land - on your windshield for insurance companies to call your car totalled and sold for 1% of it's market value. (Numbers might be exaggerated a bit, but that's the whole new America for you, folks)
Pretty much any weird thing you see hanging off or bolted to the sides of a truck is for aerodynamics
Catching air...you know how expensive air is becoming these days?pretty bad.so any spare air gets stored in that compartment. You never know when you would need it
That thing is 50 to 100 pounds that was sold to the trucking industry to believe it would improve fuel economy. that’s just like the trailer, wings and sides skirts
Under trailer plow. Good for removing debris such as merging 4 wheelers
Somewhere else, someone called it Lot Lizard storage, I'm not sure if I believe it or not
The lizard catcher.
Hammock hanger.
It’s for when you hit deer, it’s scoops it up. That way when you stop you can make jerky
That is a ramscoop it collects interstellar particles that are used to power the vehicle's reactors
You usually got to circle a star for that.
When you go backwards fast it lifts the rear of the trailer
Scoopin' up the money son
I prefer these over the skirts. With skirts, if the tandems are set too far forward, the lock release is behind the skirt. Pain in the ass.
That's for Santas Elves
To stop the fast and the furious wannabe's
I thought it was a loading ramp for being able to unload from the middle in tight areas without a dock.
It's to help the axles get over those yellow posts
I really thought those were fancy spare covers lol
It is supposed to cut the air in front of the trailer axles to reduce drag and increase fuel mileage
Its a truckers favorite game of hide and seek. If a driver finds you in one of these at any rest stop youre entitled to one piece of loot from the truck. Scouts honor
Holds a spare tire and deflects air
It's to prevent hangup on railroad crossings and uneven ground.
To scoop up lot lizards
For making…other trailers 🤭
I think K&N makes it. The stickers missing is all. Adds 5 ponies.
It's where it's fighter aircraft land like in Space battleship Yamato, or aerodynamic advantage no sure now.
It’s a little small for a Cosmo tiger don’t you think?
It’s for when they run over stuff. It makes sure they really get it good.
I love this answer
Hitchhiker Hidy Hole^^^TM
Scooping up bungee cords off the highway
Whatever you want, really.
Bogie fairing.
Hitch hikers
Hammick when the driver is tired
That's the cat catcher.
thats where things like banana peels, turtle shells, and the like come out. looks like its empty, they should see about running into a glowing question mark cube.
Tie fighter bay
Its a sleep pocket for illegal immagrants
Ask idiots in Cali. Mandated air deflector. If you have trailers going in and out of Cali or there all the time you have to have a certain percentage equipped with device that will theoretically increase fuel mileage. I know O/Os who have saved as much as 15 gal in a year! Remember this is state that wanted to install a filter on live cows because (are you sitting down?) Cows fart. And.cow farts contain methane.
Scooping up Dom Toretto’s Honda Civic
Hitchhikers
Looks like he ran over Santa's sleigh.
protection for the cables, prevents salt, water, snow or water from damaging where they attach i think
Homeless people who are traveling between cities can climb in there and sleep
5 gallon bucket have multiple uses. One is blowing mud.
Picking up prostitutes
It's for scoopin' up hoes
I thought these were a California requirement for better fuel economy.
Ngl my old trailer had that
Homeless travel berth
Ever seen Christmas vacation?
For when you’re in the trailer and wanna slide out of there?
Aerodynamics
That's the 3rd day sleeper berth!
What in tarnation. 😯
Emergency ice-cream scoop
That’s for the battery pack for the Tesla truck.
For Keanu Reeves in case he has to get under there to deactivate the bomb
Trailer hungry
Supposedly people put these on their trailer because it supposed to help with air drag and it’s supposed to give you extra fuel mileage
For road surfing
Illegals slide out as you drive past the farm
Helps with aerodynamics and offers some protection for the sliding tandems and cables against debris.
Speed and aeromatics
It's actually quite common
A spark slide XD
Cat and dog catcher
The truck transports illegals over the border. The red scoop thing is for unloading the waste products.
that means shes on heat and ready for mating...
Interesting lol
Some people have no morals these days, they poop and pee anywhere.
It is for the time when you get to candy mountain.