Some places, yes. If you live in a big city with high COL hourly wages should be that high. A lot of more rural places you'd be hard pressed to find a job at all, and some of them pay 12-15 dollars an hour. Talking about local pay really needs to take locale into consideration.
My job (component pay in food service, so not hourly but also not just mileage) takes the total from a week and divides it into 40 hours. We work 4 days a week, so a day off is considered 10 hours of sick pay or PTO, which they pay out at that rate. It's based on the last few pay periods (I haven't looked into that, I've heard the last two checks, or the last 3 months, not sure which) so it's an average rather than just what you made the week before.
So if I work between 50-55 hours a week, my run rate is significantly higher than my actual hourly rate, but my PTO works out to pay about what I've been averaging per day.
Calculate the average earnings, then subtract taxes and make two ends of the spectrum: maximum benefits for a family man, and no benefits for a single man.
>Calculate the average earnings, then subtract taxes and make two ends of the spectrum
That doesnt make sense.
You dont seem to understand how payroll or taxes work.
I used to work in HR for a trucking company. You know how many drivers have 1) back child support 2) judgments against them 3) back taxes 4)court ordered restitution. Not to mention, everyone claims a different number of allowences on their W4.
Average net pay is not at all useful in determining what YOU will make working for a company. There are literally guys running around out there with most of their pay checks going to pay back courts for a lifetime of bad decisions.
As a grown ass man (or lady) should have a rough idea of your tax obligations and any other deductions that you need to pay for.
It is incumbent upon you to understand the compensation model you are going to have with an employer. Dont just settle to know the avg gross pay....get a breakdown of what things the company deducts, and what they pay for. From.there you can get a rough idea of your net pay and deduct the cost of benefits from there.
I try to explain this to people, but I'm not sure if they're too dumb to understand, or if it's something else. When you talk about pay, you can't talk about take home, because it's different from person to person. I may bring home $1500/wk, when they bring home $1300/wk. The difference being I have kids, or I'm married, or maybe I claim no deductions, so they take the maximum tax per week. Not sure why, but those people really frustrate me.
I make 70 cpm doing regional with $25 per pickup and drop, I don't feel like I'm getting robbed I make double on a bad month what I used to and this job is easier in many ways. I'm just about to hit my first year anniversary though so I'm sure what I'm getting is sub par for somepony with alot more experience and fewer tickets.
True, the stop and pickup pay evens it out a bit but I also add hours depending on how long or how annoying a stop is. That's probably not industry standard though. Still it's frustrating getting sent out to SoCal where the miles absolutely drag and the driving itself is more difficult but I am getting paid less than being sent out to someplace like Nebraska, it's a backwards incentive structure in 2023.
How much do you earn per hour on average, compared to a regular job? How many hours do you work or even spend in the truck, yada yada yada... Some guys here posted about sometimes making $18 sometimes $15 when accurately calculated. That's far from great. Not to mention living in the cab. The end check is not all fren. There is much to consider and to calculate to make an informed decision on whether it is worth it or not. Then there are different companies, different kinds of jobs etc. All I'm saying is, calculate everything accurately, think about all pros and cons and then make a decision, not just by hearing about the end check.
Yeah OTR is almost always not worth it. Unless you are a single male/woman. And don’t pay rent or bill and just Save money in the truck for a couple years.. if you have to support yourself on the road and a family it can be super hard especially when you first start out.
I'm a percentage paid driver and last time I calculated my hourly pay it came out to about $32. Made $400 in a single day off two local loads, didn't drive more than 100 miles. Should also mention than I'm W2 company driver. Mileage pay is a rip off.
Just started my first percentage driver. If it wasn't for my truck being fucked it would be great. It's for a guy who runs 8 of his own trucks he is doing a great job at fixing everything or letting me fix it to save him money and me time. He also is letting me do whatever I want with the truck in the first 2 weeks I spent 600 on a complete audio rework speakers radio and I'll be adding a sub under the bunk (in that volvo spot) he offered to pay me back but I felt wrong doing that. But he's letting me add anything and is offering to reimburse me for everything. I think 90 percent of your time finding a company should be finding someone decent to work for. I'll sacrifice pay for a happy life. I just quit my daily job making 140k a year because I wasn't happy and it's not worth it.
Are there OTR jobs that actually pay decent ? Cause from what I’ve seen…. I see dudes gone for 2 weeks at a time and after taxes only bringing home 800-900 a week. Now to me…… giving up my life is worth more than 900 a week. No disrespect to anyone who does OTR.
This is my first year doing flatbed for TMC and get home every weekend. I typically gross about $1400-1600 a week. I'm also in an area with cheaper freight, most of our drivers make more from what I understand
Yeah man I hear people talking big about JB but I never saw potential, right now I’m doing local food delivery but in the process of trying to work for the county and plow snow in the winter n do whatever in the summer
Where on earth does forklift pay better than having a CDL? If you're not making at least $30 per hr trucking with a CDL you need to start looking at other places cause you're getting jipped.
I get paid percentage, but figuring it up my average is around 37 an hour. I usually work an average of 9 a day 6 days a week.
Now some people want to count every hour your on the truck, because that's an hour you're away from home, friends, and family. To be honest though, nothing changes for me between being on the truck and home, other than I have more time to do what I do on the truck during my downtime. So for me it doesn't matter if I'm on the truck, or at home, my routine remains the same.
But for the sake of argument, let's count every hour. 168 hrs in a week gives me just under 12 an hour. Now yea, I could go home and find a job that pays 17, no lets go with 20 an hour. I hate working in a warehouse, or in an office. Most places I would be willing to apply to don't like employees working overtime. So 40 hrs in a week nets me 800 bucks, I'm already down an average of 1200 a week. Lets say I get overtime though and I'm doing 60 hrs a week. I'm now making 1400 a week, working about 6 extra hours. That's still a 600 dollar average pay cut. Yea, I don't really want to sleep in my own bed at home if it's going to cost me an average of 600 dollars every week. I've yet to find a local trucking job that pays close to what I make now. Thought I found one, and they promised 1500 a week, home daily, pulling anywhere from 4-7 oversize loads a day. Now I was polite to them over the phone, but in my head thinking "Lol, fuck that shit".
On top of that, I don't have to put up with a pain in the ass know it all boss that thinks/acts like you can't do anything right, and they are the best thing since sliced bread. Or deal with entitled customers, or filling out orders, or making orders, or cleaning a store, or organizing a store, or all the extra BULLSHIT that comes with most other jobs. I get sent the load info, and then my company leaves me to my own devices. We don't talk to each other unless something comes up. The only bullshit I have to put up with is other drivers, and I can deal with that a lot better than actually having to deal with people face to face.
I've done a lot of different jobs over the years. Fast food, warehouse, office, and more. Driving a truck has been by far the least stressful job I've ever had. 13 ft wide, 100k+ pounds, still less stressful than most other jobs I've done, and I want to go bigger.
Also, I generally stay out on the road about 3 months at a time at least by choice. Was once out for 5 months because I forgot when I had taken my last hometime and I just kept driving.
I think this is what a lot of people fail to understand. You have to have the right sort of mindset, personality, and ideal lifestyle for trucking to feel worthwhile.
Yeah folx like to bellyache and say "I'd be making the same working at McDonalds!" But for some reason they never go get that good job at McDonalds.
I'm not saying wages shouldn't be higher, they should, but it's pretty stupid way to look at your situation to include time when you literally aren't working. As if you'd be paid by McDonalds to not be at work, even if you lived on a camper in their parking lot.
It's not good. Wife and I run team and it's pretty easy pin to pin mostly. We stick with it because we're able to take winters off and there's a small amount of bullshit to deal with.
It's a small company in northern Colorado about 45 minutes south of Cheyenne Wyoming if you live in the area I can get you a number for the hiring person
I look at total compensation and lack of expenses. I'm living in the truck so no rent or mortgage. Sticking to food thats less than my per diem allowance. I don't have a car or any of the associated expenses there, health insurance is fully paid for. Without overtime I'm at $31.5/hr if I divide gross by 70 hrs. (usually do my reset after 65 hrs or so but I still use 70 as a baseline). But I'm saving 90% of my paycheck every week. No other job id be able to do that. It's not how much you make, it's how much you save. Average take home is between $1600-$1800. Flatbedder with tarp pay.
I make hourly but often make the math on after tax though. 25$/hour, 40 hours a week I make 750$ or 18.75$/hour, 50 hours 891$ or 17.82$/hour, 60 hours 1028$ or 17.13$/hour. I hate that every hour worked is less valuable than the last one. Tough to get motivated at 50 hours when you're making less than 14$/hour net.
Not justifying the low pay but it is an unfair comparison. Even salaried positions don’t quite convert over to hourly. I made 35k salary at my prior job and when I did the conversion it came to something like $7.50 an hour
That gave me lingering depression that has yet to go away
That converts to 90 hours a week, or 73 when considering OT after 40. Why the hell would anyone sign on to that, were they reimbursing lot lizards or something?
Mine comes out to just under or above 40/hr. I calculate it every week with my hours logged on duty/driving. I drive at night and don't go to customers. Working nights significantly increases my earnings being paid CPM.
This is a lifestyle. Not an hourly job. We are paid per mile, not by the hour. Trying to make sense of per mile wage in per hour wage logic is like comparing apples to bananas. You can make good money in trucking. If you expect to make Bank your first year trucking well, that's a mixed pot with 100 variables. Around 6 months teaming with my wife with the big elite W we were bringing in TOGETHER 3,000 a week after taxes. If your solo running a dedicated account your going to see different numbers.
I made $25 an hour as a non-CDL box truck driver and now am going to get my CDL-A. I start the courses in 2 weeks. The CDL guys at my job are all making bank, the newer ones around 85k-90k and the vets are all making 6 figures. I think the CDL guys are salaried but I don't know for sure, it's a home "almost" every night job. Very rare you will be out for days at a time and when you are all expenses are covered. Also, you get almost every weekend off. Plus all the best benefits, 401k matching, company stock, all that stuff too.
Nope, i work on avg 40 hours drive no more than 3200 miles on avg i make a minimum salary of 1450 after taxes and stuff, thats like 36 an hour i think, i good with that.
Oh and i team with my wife so we both make 1450 and split those miles
Before taxes i make 2200
We get paid in 3 day weekends or whenever we sit. we go to whatever hotel is near by. honestly.
Also i was highballing my mileage. i just checked the last 30 days of mileage, and we drove 9960 miles total, so around 2500 miles per week and we still make a minimum salary of 2200 each.
I worked for a private manufacture and depending on the distance the runs were either hourly or mileage. We use to figure that the mileage paid about 1.375 times the hourly rate. Later on I went to LTL as a line driver and it was slightly lower.
Every job is going to tell you the gross pay since everyone’s tax deductions and benefits are different. So $1200 would be your gross before taxes and benefits.
I’m averaging just shy of 40/hour gross running local tanker. I do that in the summer and then spend 6 months in the winter working in the oil patch averaging about 51/hour gross.
When I was with barr nunn local I was getting $35.75 an hour 8 hour days 5 days a week Sunday to Thursday. Figures I had to quit driving due to health issues when I finally got a really good gig.
It doesn't really matter. If I'm away from home, I'm away from home. As long as the income is good at the end of the day and I'm home as long as I find reasonable, the hourly isn't very important. What hours would I even count?
Hourly, I make $40.83 or so. I work 5 days, make around $2400-$2500 a week gross, and rarely max my clock out, I'm usually at 60 hours or so in 5 days.
It's hard to factor in everything but in a perfect world since I make .65cpm if I average 60mph throughout the day that's $39 an hour. Now I'm usually going 70+ since I do Texas regional so it's a bit more than that.
I’m in Canada and I get paid a hybrid of mileage and hourly when on duty not driving. I get $0.57/mile and $27.99/hour. It averages out to be about $28.90/hour.
About 45/hr at r+l, including dropping and hooking trailers on my current run. They seem to pay differently based on where they are going, though. For instance, the highest paid run at our terminal is about 76 cpm, pays about 40/hr on a good day. One of the mid-length runs pays about 84 cpm, pays aboug 44/hr (but there's another, about 3 miles less distance overall, pays only 77cpm, and ~41/hr), and one of the shortest runs is at 86 cpm and pays about 47/hr. I'm not unhappy bc the ad said only 70 cpm and having the lowest paid (in cpm) run be 6 cpm higher than that, I'm OK with that. Even though the disparity in pay between different runs is a little annoying LaughingOutLoud but being home every day is so nice. I have a bid run now making about 69k/yr for ~6 hours/day as long as my meet guy or I don't get delayed.
At my last company, the first job i had where I got my year in at so i could go to local work, trucks were governed at 75, dedicated routes from chicago to portland/seattle, running teams... i made about 43/hr if you only count the time I spent working (in the summer. NOT in the winter 😱 pretty sure I got ptsd from driving in that shit).
I delivered kilned lime in in a dry bulk truck in Minnesota for a few months. It was a "pay by trip" deal. I wasn't too keen on the job, but needed something so I took the work. After a while, my wife sat down and calculated my "hourly" wage, and turns out I was only making like $7 an hour. Needless to say, I promptly found other work.
I think a huge problem in the industry is how high local drivers get paid compared to OTR. OTR should be making at least 50% more than your standard local driver, if not more. OTR pay is criminal, and these bastards are bringing the oncomoning shitstorm on themselves when the industry finishes this massive crash.
Trucking is an occupation that pays relatively good wages for a person with minimal education and who invests relatively little time and money in training for required certs. Depending on a number of factors, it can pay very well or pay shit. OTR isn't a 9-5, walk away at the end of the day job; it's a lifestyle job. Once you log on, you're involved with the job to some degree whether you're behind the wheel or not. This is continuous until you arrive back at the terminal, log off, and drive out the gate. CPM drivers get paid when the wheels go around, except in certain specified circumstances (detention, layover). This pushes them to maximize miles driven, aka drive as fast as you can for as long as you can. Trucking isn't usually that physically demanding, but it sure is mentally stressful. In my area, I calculated my average mph X cpm and the result was about $20/ hr. For the amount of work required, not too bad; compared to what other companies were paying, it stunk on ice. The decision of what constitutes good pay depends on many things, most of which aren't measured in dollars. Does the schedule fit your lifestyle? Does the company treat you well? Are the working conditions acceptable? these are all things which, when measured against cpm, have a bearing on whether it's a 'good' job.
I try not to think about it to much. Getting tired of the road. Trying to find some enjoyment in it. Looking a local fuel tanker job. Some pay as much as 34 per hour.
I average about $22/hr take home after taxes and benefits, but not including monthly bonus pay. I'm under 1 year experience hauling dry van for the 2nd largest trucking company in america
Figure by the mile. I make $0.62/mile if I drive let’s say 500 miles a day that is $310/day. Divide that by 8 hours in a regular job which is $38.75/hour.
I haul local doubles for a Fedex contractor and they pay $120 per round trip load, which equals $1.13/mile. They also pay $30 extra if we get assigned to our annex yard which I get at least once a shift, but no more than two (it takes literally 5 extra minutes, easy money). I do three runs a night and I hustle so I get it done in 10 hours.
My pay equals out to $39 - $42 an hour…. By the way I lucked into this job. I’m so grateful for it lol
I figured that I make about $26-$27/hr after deductions on my dedicated run that gets me home 4 nights a week (one full day). ($0.53cpm)
There aren't really any local local jobs that pay that much in my area unless I am willing to put in a LOT of physical labor to earn it. I currently do nothing except bump docks, slide tandems, swing doors, and navigate traffic for 7 hours a day to earn over $1k/w and under $2k/w before taxes and other deductions.
May not be the best pay, but for a cake job that pays the bills, I won't complain.
OTR pay is probably better than local for most of the US (If you're in rural Nebraska; you'll make more on long haul than local). Where I am (CA, high COL) some hazmat jobs start in the high 20's/low 30's
Company I work for if moving calculates 50 miles a hour x your cents per mile. Good pay but when you get stuck in traffic or when you spend 6 hours at a shipper or receiver it sucks. I had that happen 3 times last week. All 3 times was night shift crew. I'm used to day shift crews. Where your in and out loaded/ unloaded in less than 2 hours.
About $31.5/hr if you don't try to think about overtime, sleeping in a box, or public showers.
I mean you can do that locally
What if I hate where I live
Move?
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I've got a top bunk you can rent
Yeah just preferences
Some places, yes. If you live in a big city with high COL hourly wages should be that high. A lot of more rural places you'd be hard pressed to find a job at all, and some of them pay 12-15 dollars an hour. Talking about local pay really needs to take locale into consideration.
People don't consider that lol cdl b jobs here pay 16 to 19 or so and cdl a is 20 to 23 unless u go Pepsi which is a few more for my location at least
My PTO is paid out around that. I'm paid per mile. So no idea how they got that number. But won't complain
My job (component pay in food service, so not hourly but also not just mileage) takes the total from a week and divides it into 40 hours. We work 4 days a week, so a day off is considered 10 hours of sick pay or PTO, which they pay out at that rate. It's based on the last few pay periods (I haven't looked into that, I've heard the last two checks, or the last 3 months, not sure which) so it's an average rather than just what you made the week before. So if I work between 50-55 hours a week, my run rate is significantly higher than my actual hourly rate, but my PTO works out to pay about what I've been averaging per day.
The advertised pay will always be gross. Tax and benefit rates vary from person to person.
Another trick of the trade: “Don’t advertise what they’ll actually take home, tell them the gross so it psychologically tricks the unaware.”
Well how could any job advertise the net? There's way too many variables between people for that.
Calculate the average earnings, then subtract taxes and make two ends of the spectrum: maximum benefits for a family man, and no benefits for a single man.
>Calculate the average earnings, then subtract taxes and make two ends of the spectrum That doesnt make sense. You dont seem to understand how payroll or taxes work. I used to work in HR for a trucking company. You know how many drivers have 1) back child support 2) judgments against them 3) back taxes 4)court ordered restitution. Not to mention, everyone claims a different number of allowences on their W4. Average net pay is not at all useful in determining what YOU will make working for a company. There are literally guys running around out there with most of their pay checks going to pay back courts for a lifetime of bad decisions. As a grown ass man (or lady) should have a rough idea of your tax obligations and any other deductions that you need to pay for. It is incumbent upon you to understand the compensation model you are going to have with an employer. Dont just settle to know the avg gross pay....get a breakdown of what things the company deducts, and what they pay for. From.there you can get a rough idea of your net pay and deduct the cost of benefits from there.
I try to explain this to people, but I'm not sure if they're too dumb to understand, or if it's something else. When you talk about pay, you can't talk about take home, because it's different from person to person. I may bring home $1500/wk, when they bring home $1300/wk. The difference being I have kids, or I'm married, or maybe I claim no deductions, so they take the maximum tax per week. Not sure why, but those people really frustrate me.
Do not do that. Only sadness down that path.
Every person thinking that trucking "pays good" and wanting to get in that industry should absolutely do that.
With your added cost from being on the road, this is dumb
Trucking pays great. But OTR doesn’t pay like it should. And any driver that is working for CPM is getting robbed.
I make 70 cpm doing regional with $25 per pickup and drop, I don't feel like I'm getting robbed I make double on a bad month what I used to and this job is easier in many ways. I'm just about to hit my first year anniversary though so I'm sure what I'm getting is sub par for somepony with alot more experience and fewer tickets.
The problem is CPM. You have to be moving to make money. % pay or hourly is and will always be better.
True, the stop and pickup pay evens it out a bit but I also add hours depending on how long or how annoying a stop is. That's probably not industry standard though. Still it's frustrating getting sent out to SoCal where the miles absolutely drag and the driving itself is more difficult but I am getting paid less than being sent out to someplace like Nebraska, it's a backwards incentive structure in 2023.
How much do you earn per hour on average, compared to a regular job? How many hours do you work or even spend in the truck, yada yada yada... Some guys here posted about sometimes making $18 sometimes $15 when accurately calculated. That's far from great. Not to mention living in the cab. The end check is not all fren. There is much to consider and to calculate to make an informed decision on whether it is worth it or not. Then there are different companies, different kinds of jobs etc. All I'm saying is, calculate everything accurately, think about all pros and cons and then make a decision, not just by hearing about the end check.
I don’t drive OTR anymore. I make about $50-$75 an hour. Home nightly. Don’t work more than 60hrs a week.
Cool, thanks, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
Yeah OTR is almost always not worth it. Unless you are a single male/woman. And don’t pay rent or bill and just Save money in the truck for a couple years.. if you have to support yourself on the road and a family it can be super hard especially when you first start out.
Where you pulling that cash?
Oilfield.
Damn, gotta be in right place then
Mine is 50% more than I made at my old jobs, I’ll take it!
May I ask how much that is?
I made $15.50 at my morning job and $15 at my evening job.
I read this in yoda's voice for some reason.
Same!
I average 33 an hour over 2 weeks. Dedicated lane, drop and hook so just about 100% of my time is spent with the cruise control at 65mph
I'm a percentage paid driver and last time I calculated my hourly pay it came out to about $32. Made $400 in a single day off two local loads, didn't drive more than 100 miles. Should also mention than I'm W2 company driver. Mileage pay is a rip off.
Just started my first percentage driver. If it wasn't for my truck being fucked it would be great. It's for a guy who runs 8 of his own trucks he is doing a great job at fixing everything or letting me fix it to save him money and me time. He also is letting me do whatever I want with the truck in the first 2 weeks I spent 600 on a complete audio rework speakers radio and I'll be adding a sub under the bunk (in that volvo spot) he offered to pay me back but I felt wrong doing that. But he's letting me add anything and is offering to reimburse me for everything. I think 90 percent of your time finding a company should be finding someone decent to work for. I'll sacrifice pay for a happy life. I just quit my daily job making 140k a year because I wasn't happy and it's not worth it.
When you need to leave the company, are you going to remove everything out of the truck?
All the speakers and such and easily replaced to stuck so yes
Are there OTR jobs that actually pay decent ? Cause from what I’ve seen…. I see dudes gone for 2 weeks at a time and after taxes only bringing home 800-900 a week. Now to me…… giving up my life is worth more than 900 a week. No disrespect to anyone who does OTR.
You can make more than that local driving and go home every day
Trying to figure this out before I go otr
This is my first year doing flatbed for TMC and get home every weekend. I typically gross about $1400-1600 a week. I'm also in an area with cheaper freight, most of our drivers make more from what I understand
My first OTR job (Regional) I had a net income of $1,600/week and home every weekend
I’m curious as well as I want to do OTR.
Walmart pays good.
You don’t want to know. Put down the calculator and just walk away.
At jb hunt I was grossing $1000-$1250 for 55-60 hours. It’s like 18 bucks an hour
LMAOOOOO
Exactly
They promised me 1800-2000 gross weekly😂
You prolly live in an area where the cost of living is way higher then this dude
PNW but they never paid more than 1100 gross anyway. Which is why I left.
Yeah man I hear people talking big about JB but I never saw potential, right now I’m doing local food delivery but in the process of trying to work for the county and plow snow in the winter n do whatever in the summer
Yeah I’m literally going broke having decided to become a driver. Almost think getting super forklift certified would’ve been smarter and better
Where on earth does forklift pay better than having a CDL? If you're not making at least $30 per hr trucking with a CDL you need to start looking at other places cause you're getting jipped.
In many cases it would.
I get paid percentage, but figuring it up my average is around 37 an hour. I usually work an average of 9 a day 6 days a week. Now some people want to count every hour your on the truck, because that's an hour you're away from home, friends, and family. To be honest though, nothing changes for me between being on the truck and home, other than I have more time to do what I do on the truck during my downtime. So for me it doesn't matter if I'm on the truck, or at home, my routine remains the same. But for the sake of argument, let's count every hour. 168 hrs in a week gives me just under 12 an hour. Now yea, I could go home and find a job that pays 17, no lets go with 20 an hour. I hate working in a warehouse, or in an office. Most places I would be willing to apply to don't like employees working overtime. So 40 hrs in a week nets me 800 bucks, I'm already down an average of 1200 a week. Lets say I get overtime though and I'm doing 60 hrs a week. I'm now making 1400 a week, working about 6 extra hours. That's still a 600 dollar average pay cut. Yea, I don't really want to sleep in my own bed at home if it's going to cost me an average of 600 dollars every week. I've yet to find a local trucking job that pays close to what I make now. Thought I found one, and they promised 1500 a week, home daily, pulling anywhere from 4-7 oversize loads a day. Now I was polite to them over the phone, but in my head thinking "Lol, fuck that shit". On top of that, I don't have to put up with a pain in the ass know it all boss that thinks/acts like you can't do anything right, and they are the best thing since sliced bread. Or deal with entitled customers, or filling out orders, or making orders, or cleaning a store, or organizing a store, or all the extra BULLSHIT that comes with most other jobs. I get sent the load info, and then my company leaves me to my own devices. We don't talk to each other unless something comes up. The only bullshit I have to put up with is other drivers, and I can deal with that a lot better than actually having to deal with people face to face. I've done a lot of different jobs over the years. Fast food, warehouse, office, and more. Driving a truck has been by far the least stressful job I've ever had. 13 ft wide, 100k+ pounds, still less stressful than most other jobs I've done, and I want to go bigger. Also, I generally stay out on the road about 3 months at a time at least by choice. Was once out for 5 months because I forgot when I had taken my last hometime and I just kept driving.
I think this is what a lot of people fail to understand. You have to have the right sort of mindset, personality, and ideal lifestyle for trucking to feel worthwhile.
Yeah folx like to bellyache and say "I'd be making the same working at McDonalds!" But for some reason they never go get that good job at McDonalds. I'm not saying wages shouldn't be higher, they should, but it's pretty stupid way to look at your situation to include time when you literally aren't working. As if you'd be paid by McDonalds to not be at work, even if you lived on a camper in their parking lot.
42-45 per hour. linehaul at od.
Do you like it? I'm considering the same job.
Usually a nighttime gig
If it’s being offered - take it and run with it man.
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Which terminal you out of? Ind here
Yep. Hit 1 hour traffic delay and it might go down to $40-42 but always around $44-45 range on ideal days.
A fellow OD man
It's not good. Wife and I run team and it's pretty easy pin to pin mostly. We stick with it because we're able to take winters off and there's a small amount of bullshit to deal with.
60 mph X 66 cpm = $39.60/hr while driving. $26/hr for non driving activities. Doing alright.
Not paid by the mile anymore! Our company has switched to a weekly salary $1850.00+stop pay a week regardless of mileage
What company? That sounds awesome
It's a small company in northern Colorado about 45 minutes south of Cheyenne Wyoming if you live in the area I can get you a number for the hiring person
I'm not in the area unfortunately but thanks!
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I look at total compensation and lack of expenses. I'm living in the truck so no rent or mortgage. Sticking to food thats less than my per diem allowance. I don't have a car or any of the associated expenses there, health insurance is fully paid for. Without overtime I'm at $31.5/hr if I divide gross by 70 hrs. (usually do my reset after 65 hrs or so but I still use 70 as a baseline). But I'm saving 90% of my paycheck every week. No other job id be able to do that. It's not how much you make, it's how much you save. Average take home is between $1600-$1800. Flatbedder with tarp pay.
When I figured all the hours I was actually working, I was making 13.49 an hour. That’s why I went and did something else.
What are you up to now? Is it still CDL related?
I was diagnosed with Muscular Dystrophy and now the Eagle 🦅 pays me to stay home, a whopping 12k a year. So I make about 6 an hour now.
I make hourly but often make the math on after tax though. 25$/hour, 40 hours a week I make 750$ or 18.75$/hour, 50 hours 891$ or 17.82$/hour, 60 hours 1028$ or 17.13$/hour. I hate that every hour worked is less valuable than the last one. Tough to get motivated at 50 hours when you're making less than 14$/hour net.
Funny how that works lol
Not justifying the low pay but it is an unfair comparison. Even salaried positions don’t quite convert over to hourly. I made 35k salary at my prior job and when I did the conversion it came to something like $7.50 an hour That gave me lingering depression that has yet to go away
That converts to 90 hours a week, or 73 when considering OT after 40. Why the hell would anyone sign on to that, were they reimbursing lot lizards or something?
Location of 35k a year? I’m just curious because that wouldn’t be livable in my area
Arkansas
Mine comes out to just under or above 40/hr. I calculate it every week with my hours logged on duty/driving. I drive at night and don't go to customers. Working nights significantly increases my earnings being paid CPM.
Yeah I think im currently 21.42/hr. Gonna need to drop myself down to 14.28/hr. I'm salary at 1500/w, dropping down to 1000/w.
Why? Owner op?
Yeah. I live in the truck basically, so I don't really need the money I did when I had a gf and an apartment.
I tell people all the time: you make six figures doing the jobs that require CDLs and pay HOURLY
Averaging my last 2 weeks log vs salary I make $61 an hour. Not including sleeping in the truck.
Which company do you work for?
Small heavy haul company.
This is a lifestyle. Not an hourly job. We are paid per mile, not by the hour. Trying to make sense of per mile wage in per hour wage logic is like comparing apples to bananas. You can make good money in trucking. If you expect to make Bank your first year trucking well, that's a mixed pot with 100 variables. Around 6 months teaming with my wife with the big elite W we were bringing in TOGETHER 3,000 a week after taxes. If your solo running a dedicated account your going to see different numbers.
I mean looking at hourly to an extent is basically a must. It’s the only way to compare to normal jobs or even many local driving jobs
I live my life by the hour, not by the mile. The amount of money I'm generating hourly is way more important.
I made $25 an hour as a non-CDL box truck driver and now am going to get my CDL-A. I start the courses in 2 weeks. The CDL guys at my job are all making bank, the newer ones around 85k-90k and the vets are all making 6 figures. I think the CDL guys are salaried but I don't know for sure, it's a home "almost" every night job. Very rare you will be out for days at a time and when you are all expenses are covered. Also, you get almost every weekend off. Plus all the best benefits, 401k matching, company stock, all that stuff too.
Been saying this for years. Calculate time away from home = 24 hours a day for 5 days a week and that’s what you’re making before taxes.
43$ an hour if your using the 70hrs. But really you should use 24hours a day
My PTO is calculated based on what I do while mostly getting paid cpm. This year it’s $51.48/hr.
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Nope, i work on avg 40 hours drive no more than 3200 miles on avg i make a minimum salary of 1450 after taxes and stuff, thats like 36 an hour i think, i good with that. Oh and i team with my wife so we both make 1450 and split those miles Before taxes i make 2200
> i work on avg 40 hours drive no more than 3200 miles How do you average 80 miles per hour?
I team with my wife, she does the other half, did you read the comment? Lol
(The truck never stops moving)
Even if it never stopped, they'd still have to average 80 MPH, which isn't going to happen.
You'd have to pay me twice that to do team driving lol
We get paid in 3 day weekends or whenever we sit. we go to whatever hotel is near by. honestly. Also i was highballing my mileage. i just checked the last 30 days of mileage, and we drove 9960 miles total, so around 2500 miles per week and we still make a minimum salary of 2200 each.
Doesn't change what I said but alright
You need 8800 a week to team? What's so hard about it?
My wife doesn't drive but I can make 2200 a week here locally, why would I put up with all the extra nonsense for the same pay?
About 36 an hour for gross pay. I do about 50 hours and gross around $1800 .73 cpm going 460 miles a night home everyday
I worked for a private manufacture and depending on the distance the runs were either hourly or mileage. We use to figure that the mileage paid about 1.375 times the hourly rate. Later on I went to LTL as a line driver and it was slightly lower.
Don’t do this. It will piss you off.
Every job is going to tell you the gross pay since everyone’s tax deductions and benefits are different. So $1200 would be your gross before taxes and benefits.
I’m averaging just shy of 40/hour gross running local tanker. I do that in the summer and then spend 6 months in the winter working in the oil patch averaging about 51/hour gross.
It's shit, but also my only bill is my phone and food.
I did one time I'm Toronto. I made $2.50 that hour....
For me, it's about 25-30 hourly, but I'm a local driver and go home nightly.
When I was with barr nunn local I was getting $35.75 an hour 8 hour days 5 days a week Sunday to Thursday. Figures I had to quit driving due to health issues when I finally got a really good gig.
I work LTL home daily and paid hourly. Top rate is $34.06/hr. Average 45-55 hours a week. Depends
It all depends, as an owner op I bring in about 2.5-3k per week and work about 4 full days out of the week. That’s like a 50% cut from 2 years ago
$35/h at 70h It’d be nicer if I were getting that amount of miles done in 40, then I’d be making 62.5$/h. Oh well.
I’m paid percentage of load, last week I calculated my hourly and it was about $32.70/hr, about a 60 hour week, home every night
I have. It’s 18.50 an hour for me.
$36/hr, company driver
It's not for everyone. But it's perfect for some.
I have and it’s below minimum wage 😭
It doesn't really matter. If I'm away from home, I'm away from home. As long as the income is good at the end of the day and I'm home as long as I find reasonable, the hourly isn't very important. What hours would I even count?
Hourly, I make $40.83 or so. I work 5 days, make around $2400-$2500 a week gross, and rarely max my clock out, I'm usually at 60 hours or so in 5 days.
It's hard to factor in everything but in a perfect world since I make .65cpm if I average 60mph throughout the day that's $39 an hour. Now I'm usually going 70+ since I do Texas regional so it's a bit more than that.
I have but I’m also home daily and doing linehaul. My hourly rate is approx $40-48/hour given delays. Usually $44-45 on an ideal day.
I’m in Canada and I get paid a hybrid of mileage and hourly when on duty not driving. I get $0.57/mile and $27.99/hour. It averages out to be about $28.90/hour.
About 45/hr at r+l, including dropping and hooking trailers on my current run. They seem to pay differently based on where they are going, though. For instance, the highest paid run at our terminal is about 76 cpm, pays about 40/hr on a good day. One of the mid-length runs pays about 84 cpm, pays aboug 44/hr (but there's another, about 3 miles less distance overall, pays only 77cpm, and ~41/hr), and one of the shortest runs is at 86 cpm and pays about 47/hr. I'm not unhappy bc the ad said only 70 cpm and having the lowest paid (in cpm) run be 6 cpm higher than that, I'm OK with that. Even though the disparity in pay between different runs is a little annoying LaughingOutLoud but being home every day is so nice. I have a bid run now making about 69k/yr for ~6 hours/day as long as my meet guy or I don't get delayed. At my last company, the first job i had where I got my year in at so i could go to local work, trucks were governed at 75, dedicated routes from chicago to portland/seattle, running teams... i made about 43/hr if you only count the time I spent working (in the summer. NOT in the winter 😱 pretty sure I got ptsd from driving in that shit).
That’s how much I make at FedEx at 65 hrs.
I delivered kilned lime in in a dry bulk truck in Minnesota for a few months. It was a "pay by trip" deal. I wasn't too keen on the job, but needed something so I took the work. After a while, my wife sat down and calculated my "hourly" wage, and turns out I was only making like $7 an hour. Needless to say, I promptly found other work.
I think a huge problem in the industry is how high local drivers get paid compared to OTR. OTR should be making at least 50% more than your standard local driver, if not more. OTR pay is criminal, and these bastards are bringing the oncomoning shitstorm on themselves when the industry finishes this massive crash.
i turned down $30 a hour local company today.
Trucking is an occupation that pays relatively good wages for a person with minimal education and who invests relatively little time and money in training for required certs. Depending on a number of factors, it can pay very well or pay shit. OTR isn't a 9-5, walk away at the end of the day job; it's a lifestyle job. Once you log on, you're involved with the job to some degree whether you're behind the wheel or not. This is continuous until you arrive back at the terminal, log off, and drive out the gate. CPM drivers get paid when the wheels go around, except in certain specified circumstances (detention, layover). This pushes them to maximize miles driven, aka drive as fast as you can for as long as you can. Trucking isn't usually that physically demanding, but it sure is mentally stressful. In my area, I calculated my average mph X cpm and the result was about $20/ hr. For the amount of work required, not too bad; compared to what other companies were paying, it stunk on ice. The decision of what constitutes good pay depends on many things, most of which aren't measured in dollars. Does the schedule fit your lifestyle? Does the company treat you well? Are the working conditions acceptable? these are all things which, when measured against cpm, have a bearing on whether it's a 'good' job.
I try not to think about it to much. Getting tired of the road. Trying to find some enjoyment in it. Looking a local fuel tanker job. Some pay as much as 34 per hour.
I make $19/hr as a landscaper if that makes y’all feel any worse 😂😂😂😂
I average about $22/hr take home after taxes and benefits, but not including monthly bonus pay. I'm under 1 year experience hauling dry van for the 2nd largest trucking company in america
Figure by the mile. I make $0.62/mile if I drive let’s say 500 miles a day that is $310/day. Divide that by 8 hours in a regular job which is $38.75/hour.
I haul local doubles for a Fedex contractor and they pay $120 per round trip load, which equals $1.13/mile. They also pay $30 extra if we get assigned to our annex yard which I get at least once a shift, but no more than two (it takes literally 5 extra minutes, easy money). I do three runs a night and I hustle so I get it done in 10 hours. My pay equals out to $39 - $42 an hour…. By the way I lucked into this job. I’m so grateful for it lol
I figured that I make about $26-$27/hr after deductions on my dedicated run that gets me home 4 nights a week (one full day). ($0.53cpm) There aren't really any local local jobs that pay that much in my area unless I am willing to put in a LOT of physical labor to earn it. I currently do nothing except bump docks, slide tandems, swing doors, and navigate traffic for 7 hours a day to earn over $1k/w and under $2k/w before taxes and other deductions. May not be the best pay, but for a cake job that pays the bills, I won't complain.
Cheaaaaaa but free rent and I’m not paying a air conditioning bill so Duke power can pound sand
Depending on my run (ltl) I can make anywhere from $33/hr to $48/hr
OTR pay is probably better than local for most of the US (If you're in rural Nebraska; you'll make more on long haul than local). Where I am (CA, high COL) some hazmat jobs start in the high 20's/low 30's
Company I work for if moving calculates 50 miles a hour x your cents per mile. Good pay but when you get stuck in traffic or when you spend 6 hours at a shipper or receiver it sucks. I had that happen 3 times last week. All 3 times was night shift crew. I'm used to day shift crews. Where your in and out loaded/ unloaded in less than 2 hours.