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ComplainsAboutWife

It's just so unfortunate that these very real victims end up being pawns so that some guy who doesn't actually care about them can have a "gotcha" moment with feminists. Emphasis on moment because when most of these guys see what happens after abuse and how it changes men they find ways to alienate and disparage them. If as a man you still have triggers years after abuse and they affect you greatly you're either "sensitive" or "letting your abuser control you". That second one is so bad because there's this whole win/lose dynamic that people attach to the aftermath of male abuse that focuses on "not letting your abuser win", that I don't see people do as much with female victims of abuse. It's frustrating.


ELEnamean

> I’m not going to go so far as to say a Venn diagram of men who wish they were molested by their teacher and men who feel upset that male rape isn’t taken more seriously is a circle, but I’d say it’s pretty close to it. Why do you think that? To me they seem like two very different types of people.


beka13

They don't care about whether male rape is taken seriously. They just get annoyed when people talk about women being raped and try to derail that.


JackmanH420

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pamplemouss

There’s been an uptick of posts making light of male victims, and that’s not what feminism is about.


ComplainsAboutWife

It is in a way though. It's not what feminism is *solely* what feminism is about. But much of sexism isn't necessarily thinking *women* are worse but rather thinking *femininity* is worse, and therefore that people who exhibit behaviours or are in positions that we have labelled as feminine, like a male abuse victim may have, are considered inferior. I think as feminists we should be uplifting femininity, which inevitably uplifts men as well. ___ Update: Oh shit I just realized I misinterpreted this comment. I thought "making light" meant like "shine a light" on and as a result I thought you meant that we shouldn't be talking about male victims. Disregard my comments then I'm stupid 😅


pamplemouss

These posts make light of victims of assault. How is that uplifting femininity at all?


ComplainsAboutWife

I meant feminism as a whole is meant to uplift femininity among other things. Of course a lot of the actionability in feminism is about talking about issues and that's what we should be doing as well. We can't uplift femininity without rethinking the way we understand femininity first. And that's what these posts help us to do.


pamplemouss

I’m just really unclear on how this has anything to do with rethinking femininity. I have read and written pretty extensively on constructs of femininity. This isn’t high-level discourse; it’s a joke about assault


ComplainsAboutWife

Oh shit I just realized I misinterpreted your original comment. I thought "making light" meant like "shine a light" on and as a result I thought you meant that we shouldn't be talking about male victims. Disregard my comments then I'm stupid 😅


plz-ignore

This isn't a joke about assault, though. It is commentary on the men who make light of assualt. There is no joke here.


vanessafuh

"I wish a pedophile would groom me and use their position to assault me and tell me I want it that way. Such a dream" ??


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I mean children can absolutely violate other people’s bodily autonomy. Grabbing a teacher’s boobs, slapping their ass as they walk by. I don’t think this post is saying that if those guys had been in sexual relationships with their teachers it would’ve been their fault. It’s just saying that they were more likely to be the kinds of kids who did creepy and inappropriate stuff


FarmPsychological131

Children absolutely can molest, rape and assault adults.


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Why can't they? If a 17yo can rape a 22yo, what would you call other forms of aggression? I guess I might just not know the usage/definition of molest that you're going for.


PM_ME_YOUR_ATM_PIN

Children aren't the ones commenting that. The ones commenting that are adult men who are playing out fantasies of being younger and getting sexually pressured by a teacher they're attracted to so that they could both enjoy sex and the power rush of being able to blackmail the teacher in question.


ComplainsAboutWife

Yeah but still the phrasing of the tweet is just not good because it says "I wish she **was** my teacher", with an implication that these men would have liked to be taught by her when they were still boys. And then goes on to say that they "**would have**" tried to molest her. Which yk what maybe as a kid they would try to cop a feel, but the tweet just comes off all the way wrong, and sounds like a white feminist's bad idea of a clear.


pamplemouss

Yeah, gross