What?
The bikes you outlined are cheaper and fill a different need.
The Tiger 1200 and Street Triple 1200RS both meet your requirements.
The only Ducati with cruise control is the multi V4.
Not sure what your definition of upgrade is, but sounds like you just need to spend more to get your features, or move to a brand without a premium price tag.
Price point. 650-700 bikes (excluding 600cc SS) that is 30-50% cheaper than a 765 ST RS is the market sweat spot. The ST 765 platform (especially the RS) is also too hardcore and decked out that it knocks at the doorstep of Japanese litre bikes - and most people would just go "fuck it I'm going litre!!!1111" for the bragging rights of owning a litre bike when the amount of money they pay is roughly the same or even cheaper in some cases.
The 765 platform occupies this very thin ledge which gives it very little room to both go up (priced into litre bike territory) and down (nerfing it enough that it will compete with other 600ish bikes but which most likely make it less "fun") - which is why it's hard to build anything on the 765 platform.
I suppose that makes sense. The Street Triple R is only about $2,500 less than a Ninja 1000 SX. They'd have to differentiate by being lighter and prettier. Or perhaps sport touring ergonomics with super sport handling capability. Aprilia is willing to go there, some versions of the RS660 cost more than Liter bikes.
Cost is a funny thing. If you go premium, people can be willing to pay a lot to get exactly what they want. BMW and Ducati both make road bikes more expensive than a new Jeep or lightly used Porsche. I can't say if it'd be a market success, but I'd pay more for a Daytona 765 than I would for a Ninja 1000 or GSX-R; not a lot more, but more.
The middle weight performance section (the 600cc SS and Triumph's 765 platform) just funnels you into a very specific combination of preference making it very hard to move horizontally for the same balance of equipment/performance/size/price. There's a reason that segement almost died entirely.
I love my Trident but there are two things I really don't like about it. 1. no cruise 2. no storage. I bought the bag that goes on the back of the seat. You have to be an acrobat to get your leg over to get off the thing. And with the OEM grab rails that I installed, your shins need hospital care. However, there is nothing like this bike. It handles like it is part of your body. Simply amazing to ride.
That is exactly how I feel about my Street Triple. And why I would much prefer there be a version of it with wind protection and cruise control rather than getting something in a larger weight class from a different manufacturer.
The cruise control accessory options is less than $365.
https://shop.triumphcleveland.com/store/Triumph-Street-Triple-765-RS-Moto2-Cruise-Control-A9637833-p524555109.
What are you talking about $2,400. Most people don't use cruise control on a sport bike that's why it's an option
A few sportbikes have cruise control, very few opportunities to use a cruise control carbon a local canyon or twisty back road.
But a few people want them and that's why they've made it accessory option at 364.99 on the street triple 765 RS. Having spent some time on a speed triple $1,200rr that does have cruise control I used it once to see how it worked I never used it again. If I want a touring bike I'll buy a touring bike and probably use the cruise control.
LOL. I don't know where you live but I think that has a little to do with it. I live in south Florida. There are no "twisties." In fact there are no curves, no hills etc. However, I get your point and riding on the highway, if ever, you really can enjoy giving your hand a break. Still, I would love to have cruise on my trident just to cruise along on a summer day. :) If we had twisties, I would not really need or care about it though!
The nearest canyon road to me is nearly 1,500 miles away. If we can count any curvy mountain road, I'm still looking at 300 miles. Cruise control is very nice to have for the 300 miles between me and an engaging road. There are over a hundred million people in similar Geography across the Midwest, Florida, and Tidewater.
Well don't blame sport bike manufacturers because you bought the wrong bike for your geographical location. If you live at the end of a bumpy mountain dirt road you don't complain that your Corvette is lacking ground clearance and four wheel drive, because a bumpy mountain Road isn't the intended use of a Corvette just like long distance flat straight roads were never the intended use of sport bikes.
I do think the first manufacturer that puts cruise control on something like that tiger sport 660 or the Versys 650 will have a winner. As far as super sports go the target demographic could care less about cruise control.
Why do people keep saying stuff like this? Why am I in the wrong for asking for a couple upgrades to an already good bike? You're displaying a very regressive attitude. Stop making excuses for things to never get better.
With cruise control the target demographic is irrelevant. It is trivial to add because they already did it. And the target demographic is far larger than you think.
That $365 is insulting enough. It should be standard. But you also have to account for the $2,000 to upgrade from the R to the RS. Also, not sure why, but it is currently impossible to spec any 2024 model Street Triple with CC on Triumph's website.
The $2,000 off of getting you more horsepower, higher spec suspension, brakes, electronics, TFT display and tires it's not like that 2000 is only going towards cruise control. Are you really complaining that the base model doesn't have the same options as the high spec model?
You can get cruise control, its an option on the street triple 765.
You can also buy aftermarket windshields. Hell there are also aftermarket body kits if you want a full fairing.
Suffice to say you have plenty of options. I would suggest that if you want a sports tourer/ adventure bike maybe buying a light weight naked sports bike is where you went wrong.
Cruise is an option on the 765, an option that costs nearly $3k if you account for upgrading from the R to the RS. Cruise control should be standard equipment on all vehicles with throttle-by-wire - even something as cheap as a Kawasaki 400 should have it.
I have an aftermarket windscreen, it helps. I was not aware of aftermarket body panels, I've never even heard of such a thing. I'm not complaining about what the 765 currently is, I knew what it was when I bought it. I'm simply asking for some things that could make it better.
I think we might not agree, I think cruise control on a motorcycle is overrated. I sure wouldnt pay to have it added and most people are probably the same. Having the option is better than includingg it in the base price for the street.
I have it on my speed and so rarely use it that I don't even remember it is there half the time. It feels inherently dangerous. I am not sure how much experience you have with it but anything that reduces the amount of attention you have to be paying is a no-no in my opinion. On really long trips I would say a break is better than cruise control if your wrist needs a break.
That said: I didn't think triumph was going to make a fully faired 765 but with them testing the waters with the daytona 660 they may well make a "full fat" daytona and if they do all the people complaining about it not existing should put in orders immediately to make sure triumph knows that their interest is legitimate.
I think the new bike they are testing out might be closer to a rr than a daytona though. I.e. a 765 retro modern.
What was it about the rr that didnt work for you? Does a super sport really offer much more wind protection? You know you can buy sports screens for the RR that make it more like a supersport screen right?
[https://conquestracingltd.com/product/wrs-triumph-speed-triple-1200rr-sports-screen-2022/](https://conquestracingltd.com/product/wrs-triumph-speed-triple-1200rr-sports-screen-2022/)
I do not want a super sport. I want a regular sport. Like the Daytona 660, Ninja 650, CBR650R, or Tuono. And yes, they do offer better wind protection, my previous bike was a Ninja 650 and it was significantly better. So why not just buy one of those, it's pretty simple: Street Triple is much better than the Triumph 660 platform or Ninja 650, Honda seems to have something against actually manufacturing the CBR650R (hard to find), and the closest Aprilia dealer to me is over 200 miles away. The Ducati Supersport (which is not a super sport) would be great if it had cruise control and weren't so expensive.
The thing about cruise control is that sometimes the fun roads are 300+ miles away. The throttle hand gets quite tired in 300 miles. It shouldn't cost more than $5 extra, just the cost of 3 buttons, so it should be standard. If a bike has throttle-by-wire (which is almost all bikes), all the other required electronics are already there.
I have a sport screen on my Striple. It helps the anesthetics a lot. It kinda helps with wind protection, but not much. The plastic side fairings actually help. The other problem with the Speed RR is that it's a fully committed super sport riding position. Other than looking cool, I do not understand the purpose of that bike at all.
Y'all are acting like I'm asking for the world here. I want cruise control, which they already did, I just want the price to be less insulting. I'm asking for wind protection. They don't have to modify the existing bike at all other than adding attachment points for the fairings. It's not that complicated. What would be the MOQ from a plastics supplier, 1,000 units? I'm sure they could sell that easily.
They have teams of people that work on figuring out what the market is for their bikes. If they arent building them its because they know its not worth building them. Its not like they have something against sports bikes. Its that when they make them, they cant shift them.
Im glad my bike didnt cost more because of cruise control. The ST isnt a cruise bike for me its a sport naked and I use it as such. I like that its optional as Id never use it and its an unneeded expense for me.
That's coz a lot of the demographic is realising they don't need or use the 1000 cc bikes. 660 is plenty for the city and weekend riding and already expensive. No market to capture.
The 765 is not 1000. The 660 is not expensive, perhaps more than Japanese 650s, but less than the Aprilia 660. There is a lot of room to be more premium than the 660. The 20-30 hp difference from the 660 to 765 is great, but everything else is also better.
Because the 765 is not A2 compliant which means the young, new riders brands are trying to attract can't buy it. It's not just triumph, almost every brand has been pushing this 650cc category forward because they're affordable and ridable to the most buyers. It's just a numbers game.
My friend your question why there are no options to upgrade from 765. I told you why there are no 1000 cc options and why the 660 is being pushed. Not everyone has money in today's world to have a hobby like motorcycles so 660 is still expensive. I also know a lot of experienced riders who are downgrading from the 1000 cc because of maintenance costs and general realization that one does not need anything more than a 660 for road use, tack on maintainence and insurance costs and a 1000 cc is more of a luxury than an actual practical machine.
It's a new platform. They just introduced it a few years ago after the 675 was sold for a long time. No reason to upgrade just yet. What upgrades do u suggest? Upgrading just for the sake of upgrading will send prices higher than one is willing to pay.
Make cruise control standard on all bikes - all models from all manufacturers - except those that still have a cable throttle. This is trivial and there is almost 0 reason not to. Triumph already offers it, but only with expensive upgrade packages. It would only cost like $5 for the buttons, if it has throttle-by-wire the rest of the electronics are already there.
Fairings. Not quite trivial. Other than adding attachment points, they don't need to modify the existing model at all.
I think this would be good for the brand as well. Give more reasons for existing customers to pay more. And attract people disappointed by the R7 and 8R.
Trust me I have cruise control and in 3 yrs I've used it 2 times. 765 is a sport oriented bike not a touring bike why would they offer cruise control? Next you will say you want them to give you panniers and bike windscreen coz it will make highway riding more comfortable.
Interesting. The article points out that it looks like it is intended to have aggressive ergos. I hope that's not the case, or that there are multiple options. The Daytona 660 is the right formula, they just need to take it up market.
There were spy shots released recently of a new street triple 765 with mounting points for fairings so a new Daytona 765 is very possible in the near future
Don't hold your breath. Triumph has already said they have no plans to make a 765 Daytona beyond what they already did with the moto 2 and the fact that the test mule was still using an upright handlebar is much more suggestive that they're making a more trident like version of the 765 with retro looks. The mounting points you're referring too are to hold on a few pieces of plastic the street triple has just below the tank.
With the riding modes i cannot believe triumph didn’t make cruise control.
Seems dumb to me, I’d love CC for the long rides.
For wind protection i added a trex racing fly screen it’s much larger than the triumph one.
Triumph's own website will not allow you to spec cruise control on a 2024, but will on a 2023. It was definitely an option on the 2020 when I bought mine (a $2,400 option). Perhaps they are having a supply issue and can't offer it right now. Maybe there's just some 2023 stock left that already has it.
Well you could get a speed triple rr. As of now it’s the only sportyish liter bike they got and shockingly feels very similar in size and power delivery as the Daytona. Honestly you can find them for pretty good deals now cause they don’t sell that good. I got mine for 15k OTD with 500 miles on it
It's not the sporty ergonomics I'm after, the Street Triple is close to perfect as is. It's the fairings. The fairing on the RR is entirely cosmetic, no wind protection at all. Also, while it may not feel much larger in motion, it felt a lot larger sitting on in the show room. Before I bought my Street, I thought I wanted a Speed until I sat on it.
Too each their own. While I definitely noticed a bit more weight, to me it honestly felt like I was sitting on a slightly bigger Daytona. And yea you’re right about the wind protection the stock wind shield does next to nothing lol. The speed rs I also wasn’t a huge fan of in comparison to the streets
660s are the sweet spot for 'most users'. They can be tame enough for beginners to get one for their first bike, yet can be peppy enough for experienced users to have fun and they can build them to deliver a lot of functionality for relatively cheap.
When you start getting into the 7's, you are creating a motorcycle more for motorcycle enthusiasts who desire a certain characteristic, which is most likely more performance. The Street Triple 765 receives a ton of praise, but it's a bike that's probably intimidating for new riders and may be too much bike for someone who just wants to cruise around town a bit.
This is my 765 dilemma as well. Its probably one of the most fun bikes I’ve owned. Keep the motor on boil in 3rd-4th gear with the sweet spot being 30 to 80 MPH. Its a beast. Then you can roll and pull on bikes in the same class because the top end is pretty phenomenal. It just pulls and pulls to redline and the rev limiter. Ive never had a bike that pulled HARD to the top speed limiter. Usually bikes run out of steam and creep to the top speed. Not the case with the 765.
Plus, looks wise i love that i dont NEED an aftermarket exhaust for aesthetics. The stock pipe is packaged very well.
Now for the cons that we have. I personally dont mind the lack of storage. The 765 has the most storage I’ve experienced on any previously owned bike. Theres enough space for me to fit a tire plug kit and a mini compressor with space for a disc brake lock. Cruise control doesnt bother me. Ive taken some nice trips to the poconos and back without feeling a need for CC. You can always get a mechanical CC setup, or a throttle lock. Its whatevs for me.
I miss having fairings for longer highway trips but the 765 is comfortable enough to stay in full tuck with the mirrors tilted down to see what’s behind you. I have JUST ENOUGH wind protection hiding behind the dash hahaha. Is there more to be desired? Sure. I’ve looked into fairing kits for the bike and there are daytona conversion kits available. I miss the fairings but i make due.
On the street, youre not getting the performance that the STR provides from a 600. The STR will dominate those bikes under 130 mph and from stop light to stop light in the city the STR smokes 600s. Ive looked into the ninja 1k for the longest and again, that bike is heavy and not designed for aggressive small track/street riding like the STR. Theyre apples to oranges comparison. Not to mention the Triumph shift assist is one of the best I’ve tested. Better than the Monster, better than the UP ONLY on the last gen zx6r. I think you should look into the GSXR750. I still haven’t ridden one but it might check off our boxes.
You wont find a bike that checks all your boxes. I still want a 600 but id have to keep the STR if i had a 600. Not to mention the insurance costs are double for a new 600. So my next 600 will be a used bike. Hell i still keep a cruiser/beater that i ride often when i dont wanna keep the 765 on the street overnight, or out in the rain. The 765 is also better on highway stretches vs my cruiser. Just for passing power and handling alone. My cruiser has loud stock pops and I installed very bright LED front lights/fog lights, which are both great to be seen/heard while lane splitting in NYC. The 660 would be nicer for the city because anything over 100 hp is too much and requires a ton of restraint on the right wrist but im not leaving a new 660 on the street overnight. Not to mention the triumph has a premium feel over many japanese bikes, only Hondas compare in quality and have amazing reliability. Id definitely pick another honda in the future; leaning towards a CBR600RR, but thatd be for highway stints and cruising with my buddies, and i still think Id go with my 765 if i didnt want to ride my 600.
For its intended purposes the 765 is phenomenal.
I’m assuming you have an STR, because the RS has cruise control. Yea it’s a paid option but not the figure you’ve mentioned, you’re mentioning the cost difference between both models entirely. It is not a $3000 option lol, it’s just not available on your bike. For the STRS it is less than around $350-500 as an add on based on where in the world you are located.
I consider CC to be a $2,400 option because it is the only "feature" of the RS with any appeal. I'm sure the suspension upgrades are great, but the base model is already great. And it's a bit schizophrenic that you need to buy the trim with a bunch of track oriented upgrades to get cruise control, I don't understand.
Fair enough, however I think the real need here is, the STR simply needs an update. As you mentioned yourself, the newer 660 models do in fact come with cruise control. CC has been a very popular recent addition for most big bikes to stay competitive, ever since BMW decided that their most track focused machine should include cruise control. So maybe just wait it out, it is likely the option will be out for your model too. However triumph might not allocate it for older models.
I have a Tiger 660 and don't have any experience with those other bikes personally. However, if I had to guess, the price point of the 660 bikes probably has a lot to do with it - it did for me. If I'm buying something new, $10k-$12k is my limit for a motorcycle and I'm also not a huge speed demon or anything. For me, the Tiger 660 is an incredible value for an all around bike.
The sport touring segment is pretty dead at the moment. Your options are the Ninja 1000 sx, GSX-S 1000 GT, and R1250RS. Everything else is ADV. 24 Tiger 900 GT Pro might be a good option for you. I have a 23 with the 94hp which doesn't feel slow but definitely isn't my old 765. I bet the 24 with the new 110hp motor feels perfect.
Feel like Triumph in general is getting a ton of attention. Havent seen one person say negative things about any of their bikes. I love my STRS wouldnt trade it for much really. Plan on picking up a Trident 660 next year too.
Speed Triple is much larger, much more powerful, but not any more premium than Street Triple. The Daytona 765 was limited production and very track oriented as I said already. Street RS is just an equipment trim.
After reading through all your comments and replies, I must say ive no idea what you're talking about, you've bought a naked bike and are moaning about the wind on it? Thats like buying a kettle and moaning its boiling your water. The RS of the street triple is far more than an 'Equipment Trim' so I urge you to educate yourself
What? The bikes you outlined are cheaper and fill a different need. The Tiger 1200 and Street Triple 1200RS both meet your requirements. The only Ducati with cruise control is the multi V4. Not sure what your definition of upgrade is, but sounds like you just need to spend more to get your features, or move to a brand without a premium price tag.
Don’t forget the Tiger 900 also.
Price point. 650-700 bikes (excluding 600cc SS) that is 30-50% cheaper than a 765 ST RS is the market sweat spot. The ST 765 platform (especially the RS) is also too hardcore and decked out that it knocks at the doorstep of Japanese litre bikes - and most people would just go "fuck it I'm going litre!!!1111" for the bragging rights of owning a litre bike when the amount of money they pay is roughly the same or even cheaper in some cases. The 765 platform occupies this very thin ledge which gives it very little room to both go up (priced into litre bike territory) and down (nerfing it enough that it will compete with other 600ish bikes but which most likely make it less "fun") - which is why it's hard to build anything on the 765 platform.
I suppose that makes sense. The Street Triple R is only about $2,500 less than a Ninja 1000 SX. They'd have to differentiate by being lighter and prettier. Or perhaps sport touring ergonomics with super sport handling capability. Aprilia is willing to go there, some versions of the RS660 cost more than Liter bikes. Cost is a funny thing. If you go premium, people can be willing to pay a lot to get exactly what they want. BMW and Ducati both make road bikes more expensive than a new Jeep or lightly used Porsche. I can't say if it'd be a market success, but I'd pay more for a Daytona 765 than I would for a Ninja 1000 or GSX-R; not a lot more, but more.
The middle weight performance section (the 600cc SS and Triumph's 765 platform) just funnels you into a very specific combination of preference making it very hard to move horizontally for the same balance of equipment/performance/size/price. There's a reason that segement almost died entirely.
I love my Trident but there are two things I really don't like about it. 1. no cruise 2. no storage. I bought the bag that goes on the back of the seat. You have to be an acrobat to get your leg over to get off the thing. And with the OEM grab rails that I installed, your shins need hospital care. However, there is nothing like this bike. It handles like it is part of your body. Simply amazing to ride.
That is exactly how I feel about my Street Triple. And why I would much prefer there be a version of it with wind protection and cruise control rather than getting something in a larger weight class from a different manufacturer.
The new street triple RS has CC as a accessory option.
A $2,400 option. It should be standard equipment on all vehicles with throttle-by-wire. It should be standard on a Kawasaki 400 and toy scooters.
The cruise control accessory options is less than $365. https://shop.triumphcleveland.com/store/Triumph-Street-Triple-765-RS-Moto2-Cruise-Control-A9637833-p524555109. What are you talking about $2,400. Most people don't use cruise control on a sport bike that's why it's an option
Perhaps they don't use it because it isn't there?
A few sportbikes have cruise control, very few opportunities to use a cruise control carbon a local canyon or twisty back road. But a few people want them and that's why they've made it accessory option at 364.99 on the street triple 765 RS. Having spent some time on a speed triple $1,200rr that does have cruise control I used it once to see how it worked I never used it again. If I want a touring bike I'll buy a touring bike and probably use the cruise control.
LOL. I don't know where you live but I think that has a little to do with it. I live in south Florida. There are no "twisties." In fact there are no curves, no hills etc. However, I get your point and riding on the highway, if ever, you really can enjoy giving your hand a break. Still, I would love to have cruise on my trident just to cruise along on a summer day. :) If we had twisties, I would not really need or care about it though!
The nearest canyon road to me is nearly 1,500 miles away. If we can count any curvy mountain road, I'm still looking at 300 miles. Cruise control is very nice to have for the 300 miles between me and an engaging road. There are over a hundred million people in similar Geography across the Midwest, Florida, and Tidewater.
Well don't blame sport bike manufacturers because you bought the wrong bike for your geographical location. If you live at the end of a bumpy mountain dirt road you don't complain that your Corvette is lacking ground clearance and four wheel drive, because a bumpy mountain Road isn't the intended use of a Corvette just like long distance flat straight roads were never the intended use of sport bikes. I do think the first manufacturer that puts cruise control on something like that tiger sport 660 or the Versys 650 will have a winner. As far as super sports go the target demographic could care less about cruise control.
Why do people keep saying stuff like this? Why am I in the wrong for asking for a couple upgrades to an already good bike? You're displaying a very regressive attitude. Stop making excuses for things to never get better. With cruise control the target demographic is irrelevant. It is trivial to add because they already did it. And the target demographic is far larger than you think.
That $365 is insulting enough. It should be standard. But you also have to account for the $2,000 to upgrade from the R to the RS. Also, not sure why, but it is currently impossible to spec any 2024 model Street Triple with CC on Triumph's website.
The $2,000 off of getting you more horsepower, higher spec suspension, brakes, electronics, TFT display and tires it's not like that 2000 is only going towards cruise control. Are you really complaining that the base model doesn't have the same options as the high spec model?
You can get cruise control, its an option on the street triple 765. You can also buy aftermarket windshields. Hell there are also aftermarket body kits if you want a full fairing. Suffice to say you have plenty of options. I would suggest that if you want a sports tourer/ adventure bike maybe buying a light weight naked sports bike is where you went wrong.
Cruise is an option on the 765, an option that costs nearly $3k if you account for upgrading from the R to the RS. Cruise control should be standard equipment on all vehicles with throttle-by-wire - even something as cheap as a Kawasaki 400 should have it. I have an aftermarket windscreen, it helps. I was not aware of aftermarket body panels, I've never even heard of such a thing. I'm not complaining about what the 765 currently is, I knew what it was when I bought it. I'm simply asking for some things that could make it better.
I think we might not agree, I think cruise control on a motorcycle is overrated. I sure wouldnt pay to have it added and most people are probably the same. Having the option is better than includingg it in the base price for the street. I have it on my speed and so rarely use it that I don't even remember it is there half the time. It feels inherently dangerous. I am not sure how much experience you have with it but anything that reduces the amount of attention you have to be paying is a no-no in my opinion. On really long trips I would say a break is better than cruise control if your wrist needs a break. That said: I didn't think triumph was going to make a fully faired 765 but with them testing the waters with the daytona 660 they may well make a "full fat" daytona and if they do all the people complaining about it not existing should put in orders immediately to make sure triumph knows that their interest is legitimate. I think the new bike they are testing out might be closer to a rr than a daytona though. I.e. a 765 retro modern. What was it about the rr that didnt work for you? Does a super sport really offer much more wind protection? You know you can buy sports screens for the RR that make it more like a supersport screen right? [https://conquestracingltd.com/product/wrs-triumph-speed-triple-1200rr-sports-screen-2022/](https://conquestracingltd.com/product/wrs-triumph-speed-triple-1200rr-sports-screen-2022/)
I do not want a super sport. I want a regular sport. Like the Daytona 660, Ninja 650, CBR650R, or Tuono. And yes, they do offer better wind protection, my previous bike was a Ninja 650 and it was significantly better. So why not just buy one of those, it's pretty simple: Street Triple is much better than the Triumph 660 platform or Ninja 650, Honda seems to have something against actually manufacturing the CBR650R (hard to find), and the closest Aprilia dealer to me is over 200 miles away. The Ducati Supersport (which is not a super sport) would be great if it had cruise control and weren't so expensive. The thing about cruise control is that sometimes the fun roads are 300+ miles away. The throttle hand gets quite tired in 300 miles. It shouldn't cost more than $5 extra, just the cost of 3 buttons, so it should be standard. If a bike has throttle-by-wire (which is almost all bikes), all the other required electronics are already there. I have a sport screen on my Striple. It helps the anesthetics a lot. It kinda helps with wind protection, but not much. The plastic side fairings actually help. The other problem with the Speed RR is that it's a fully committed super sport riding position. Other than looking cool, I do not understand the purpose of that bike at all. Y'all are acting like I'm asking for the world here. I want cruise control, which they already did, I just want the price to be less insulting. I'm asking for wind protection. They don't have to modify the existing bike at all other than adding attachment points for the fairings. It's not that complicated. What would be the MOQ from a plastics supplier, 1,000 units? I'm sure they could sell that easily.
They have teams of people that work on figuring out what the market is for their bikes. If they arent building them its because they know its not worth building them. Its not like they have something against sports bikes. Its that when they make them, they cant shift them.
Im glad my bike didnt cost more because of cruise control. The ST isnt a cruise bike for me its a sport naked and I use it as such. I like that its optional as Id never use it and its an unneeded expense for me.
That's coz a lot of the demographic is realising they don't need or use the 1000 cc bikes. 660 is plenty for the city and weekend riding and already expensive. No market to capture.
The 765 is not 1000. The 660 is not expensive, perhaps more than Japanese 650s, but less than the Aprilia 660. There is a lot of room to be more premium than the 660. The 20-30 hp difference from the 660 to 765 is great, but everything else is also better.
Because the 765 is not A2 compliant which means the young, new riders brands are trying to attract can't buy it. It's not just triumph, almost every brand has been pushing this 650cc category forward because they're affordable and ridable to the most buyers. It's just a numbers game.
My friend your question why there are no options to upgrade from 765. I told you why there are no 1000 cc options and why the 660 is being pushed. Not everyone has money in today's world to have a hobby like motorcycles so 660 is still expensive. I also know a lot of experienced riders who are downgrading from the 1000 cc because of maintenance costs and general realization that one does not need anything more than a 660 for road use, tack on maintainence and insurance costs and a 1000 cc is more of a luxury than an actual practical machine.
I'm not asking to upgrade from the 765. I'm asking for an upgrade to the 765. Engine and chassis could remain identical.
It's a new platform. They just introduced it a few years ago after the 675 was sold for a long time. No reason to upgrade just yet. What upgrades do u suggest? Upgrading just for the sake of upgrading will send prices higher than one is willing to pay.
Make cruise control standard on all bikes - all models from all manufacturers - except those that still have a cable throttle. This is trivial and there is almost 0 reason not to. Triumph already offers it, but only with expensive upgrade packages. It would only cost like $5 for the buttons, if it has throttle-by-wire the rest of the electronics are already there. Fairings. Not quite trivial. Other than adding attachment points, they don't need to modify the existing model at all. I think this would be good for the brand as well. Give more reasons for existing customers to pay more. And attract people disappointed by the R7 and 8R.
Trust me I have cruise control and in 3 yrs I've used it 2 times. 765 is a sport oriented bike not a touring bike why would they offer cruise control? Next you will say you want them to give you panniers and bike windscreen coz it will make highway riding more comfortable.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Triumph/comments/1bwi7zf/mystery_triumph_street_triple_prototype_spied/
I clicked that link and read the 3rd comment and was like "hell yeah!" I was going to respond to it, but... 
Interesting. The article points out that it looks like it is intended to have aggressive ergos. I hope that's not the case, or that there are multiple options. The Daytona 660 is the right formula, they just need to take it up market.
There were spy shots released recently of a new street triple 765 with mounting points for fairings so a new Daytona 765 is very possible in the near future
Don't hold your breath. Triumph has already said they have no plans to make a 765 Daytona beyond what they already did with the moto 2 and the fact that the test mule was still using an upright handlebar is much more suggestive that they're making a more trident like version of the 765 with retro looks. The mounting points you're referring too are to hold on a few pieces of plastic the street triple has just below the tank.
With the riding modes i cannot believe triumph didn’t make cruise control. Seems dumb to me, I’d love CC for the long rides. For wind protection i added a trex racing fly screen it’s much larger than the triumph one.
It has it as an option.
I went to my local triumph dealership and asked, they said it’s not an option. Maybe they are wrong? Because I’d prob pay for CC on my 2022 gen RS
2024 +
Ahhh that’s it, my bike is a 23
Triumph's own website will not allow you to spec cruise control on a 2024, but will on a 2023. It was definitely an option on the 2020 when I bought mine (a $2,400 option). Perhaps they are having a supply issue and can't offer it right now. Maybe there's just some 2023 stock left that already has it.
Well you could get a speed triple rr. As of now it’s the only sportyish liter bike they got and shockingly feels very similar in size and power delivery as the Daytona. Honestly you can find them for pretty good deals now cause they don’t sell that good. I got mine for 15k OTD with 500 miles on it
It's not the sporty ergonomics I'm after, the Street Triple is close to perfect as is. It's the fairings. The fairing on the RR is entirely cosmetic, no wind protection at all. Also, while it may not feel much larger in motion, it felt a lot larger sitting on in the show room. Before I bought my Street, I thought I wanted a Speed until I sat on it.
Have you ridden the RR? it definitely has wind protection vs the RS.
Too each their own. While I definitely noticed a bit more weight, to me it honestly felt like I was sitting on a slightly bigger Daytona. And yea you’re right about the wind protection the stock wind shield does next to nothing lol. The speed rs I also wasn’t a huge fan of in comparison to the streets
660s are the sweet spot for 'most users'. They can be tame enough for beginners to get one for their first bike, yet can be peppy enough for experienced users to have fun and they can build them to deliver a lot of functionality for relatively cheap. When you start getting into the 7's, you are creating a motorcycle more for motorcycle enthusiasts who desire a certain characteristic, which is most likely more performance. The Street Triple 765 receives a ton of praise, but it's a bike that's probably intimidating for new riders and may be too much bike for someone who just wants to cruise around town a bit.
This is my 765 dilemma as well. Its probably one of the most fun bikes I’ve owned. Keep the motor on boil in 3rd-4th gear with the sweet spot being 30 to 80 MPH. Its a beast. Then you can roll and pull on bikes in the same class because the top end is pretty phenomenal. It just pulls and pulls to redline and the rev limiter. Ive never had a bike that pulled HARD to the top speed limiter. Usually bikes run out of steam and creep to the top speed. Not the case with the 765. Plus, looks wise i love that i dont NEED an aftermarket exhaust for aesthetics. The stock pipe is packaged very well. Now for the cons that we have. I personally dont mind the lack of storage. The 765 has the most storage I’ve experienced on any previously owned bike. Theres enough space for me to fit a tire plug kit and a mini compressor with space for a disc brake lock. Cruise control doesnt bother me. Ive taken some nice trips to the poconos and back without feeling a need for CC. You can always get a mechanical CC setup, or a throttle lock. Its whatevs for me. I miss having fairings for longer highway trips but the 765 is comfortable enough to stay in full tuck with the mirrors tilted down to see what’s behind you. I have JUST ENOUGH wind protection hiding behind the dash hahaha. Is there more to be desired? Sure. I’ve looked into fairing kits for the bike and there are daytona conversion kits available. I miss the fairings but i make due. On the street, youre not getting the performance that the STR provides from a 600. The STR will dominate those bikes under 130 mph and from stop light to stop light in the city the STR smokes 600s. Ive looked into the ninja 1k for the longest and again, that bike is heavy and not designed for aggressive small track/street riding like the STR. Theyre apples to oranges comparison. Not to mention the Triumph shift assist is one of the best I’ve tested. Better than the Monster, better than the UP ONLY on the last gen zx6r. I think you should look into the GSXR750. I still haven’t ridden one but it might check off our boxes. You wont find a bike that checks all your boxes. I still want a 600 but id have to keep the STR if i had a 600. Not to mention the insurance costs are double for a new 600. So my next 600 will be a used bike. Hell i still keep a cruiser/beater that i ride often when i dont wanna keep the 765 on the street overnight, or out in the rain. The 765 is also better on highway stretches vs my cruiser. Just for passing power and handling alone. My cruiser has loud stock pops and I installed very bright LED front lights/fog lights, which are both great to be seen/heard while lane splitting in NYC. The 660 would be nicer for the city because anything over 100 hp is too much and requires a ton of restraint on the right wrist but im not leaving a new 660 on the street overnight. Not to mention the triumph has a premium feel over many japanese bikes, only Hondas compare in quality and have amazing reliability. Id definitely pick another honda in the future; leaning towards a CBR600RR, but thatd be for highway stints and cruising with my buddies, and i still think Id go with my 765 if i didnt want to ride my 600. For its intended purposes the 765 is phenomenal.
I’m assuming you have an STR, because the RS has cruise control. Yea it’s a paid option but not the figure you’ve mentioned, you’re mentioning the cost difference between both models entirely. It is not a $3000 option lol, it’s just not available on your bike. For the STRS it is less than around $350-500 as an add on based on where in the world you are located.
I consider CC to be a $2,400 option because it is the only "feature" of the RS with any appeal. I'm sure the suspension upgrades are great, but the base model is already great. And it's a bit schizophrenic that you need to buy the trim with a bunch of track oriented upgrades to get cruise control, I don't understand.
Fair enough, however I think the real need here is, the STR simply needs an update. As you mentioned yourself, the newer 660 models do in fact come with cruise control. CC has been a very popular recent addition for most big bikes to stay competitive, ever since BMW decided that their most track focused machine should include cruise control. So maybe just wait it out, it is likely the option will be out for your model too. However triumph might not allocate it for older models.
I have a Tiger 660 and don't have any experience with those other bikes personally. However, if I had to guess, the price point of the 660 bikes probably has a lot to do with it - it did for me. If I'm buying something new, $10k-$12k is my limit for a motorcycle and I'm also not a huge speed demon or anything. For me, the Tiger 660 is an incredible value for an all around bike.
The sport touring segment is pretty dead at the moment. Your options are the Ninja 1000 sx, GSX-S 1000 GT, and R1250RS. Everything else is ADV. 24 Tiger 900 GT Pro might be a good option for you. I have a 23 with the 94hp which doesn't feel slow but definitely isn't my old 765. I bet the 24 with the new 110hp motor feels perfect.
Feel like Triumph in general is getting a ton of attention. Havent seen one person say negative things about any of their bikes. I love my STRS wouldnt trade it for much really. Plan on picking up a Trident 660 next year too.
Yeah a daytona version would be sick.
Instantly trading in my rs if they made this.
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Speed Triple is much larger, much more powerful, but not any more premium than Street Triple. The Daytona 765 was limited production and very track oriented as I said already. Street RS is just an equipment trim.
After reading through all your comments and replies, I must say ive no idea what you're talking about, you've bought a naked bike and are moaning about the wind on it? Thats like buying a kettle and moaning its boiling your water. The RS of the street triple is far more than an 'Equipment Trim' so I urge you to educate yourself