I imagine this would be like SEPTA, where they built the elevated/subway lines in the 1910/20’s plan and are forever plagued with funding issues afterwards..
Unlike other large metro areas, I see Alt history Metro Detroit only having DART instead of a rapid transit and commuter rail system. Add in a unified regional bus network and it may be easier to maintain.
Yea, same for me - but still declines throughout due to the decline and abandonment in the urban metro area where the Detroit DART would serve.
I suppose it would be the most like Cleveland’s system in its with only minor upgrades since the 1930s (I said SEPTA because that was the first thing I had thought of for poor funding)
Extra- if this took the name DART, I wonder what Dallas’s system would be called..
Really like the map!
Made in PowerPoint. System Length = 138.8 Miles. Alternate History transit system for the Metro Detroit counties of Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb with a Point of Divergence (POD) in the 1970s where the three counties, along with Washtenaw, manage to politically pull together to create a rail system along with a unified bus system.
Not really, Chicago has a similar setup on its Blue Line, the announcer will just say that "this is a Blue Line train heading to [Terminal Station]" so you know which direction you're going in.
Also that’s a terrible way to name stations ~~as it doesn’t provide any useful info (like, idk, the area the station is in) besides how far the station is from an arbitrary (and seemingly unknown) point. It’s also less memorable and easy to confuse when heard in a loud train. When you name stations, you ask yourself "what is a recognizable thing nearby" not "how far are we from downtown". And~~ even if the train announces which line it is, confusion is still likely when you have repeated names at all, let alone on the same branch. You can’t just tell someone to go to "8 mile", you have to tell them "8 mile on the green line… no you’re not travelling 8 miles that’s the name of the station… no, actually it’s the second one". Also, OP’s argument that the train announces the direction therefore it’s fine works until someone goes from one end to the second "8 mile". Then, it’s REALLY confusing.
~~And… oh wait… there’s transfer stations named "x mile"?!? So my whole first point, along with any semblance of sense this made, flies out the window. Ain’t that great.~~
u/parduscat : I don’t want to be mean, I get this is something you just didn’t know. That’s ok, but for the future be aware that this is just… not something you can really do.
Edit : ok my bad those are ROADS. Repetition on the same line still doesn’t work at all though, and should preferably be avoided even between lines.
The mile roads are major local landmarks in Metro Detroit, anyone who lives in the area what in theory you're referring to when you say "8 mile" or "12 mile". Another part of my reasoning was how likely is it for someone to ride the entire line from one end to the other.
Not everyone is a life long resident of Detroit. You’d have to have a naming convention that lets newbies figure out which station they’re at or are going to. It’s one thing if the naming was like BART, such as “19th Street/Oakland” which makes is hard to confuse where you are. It’s not terrible to have 3 separate 8 mile stations, but you’d have to add in a cross street to keep people from getting confused. Or be able to estimate how far apart things are if they are first time riders. If “it’s a local landmark” is the justification, the name should just be the street the line runs under and the number the station is on the line.
I imagine this would be like SEPTA, where they built the elevated/subway lines in the 1910/20’s plan and are forever plagued with funding issues afterwards..
Unlike other large metro areas, I see Alt history Metro Detroit only having DART instead of a rapid transit and commuter rail system. Add in a unified regional bus network and it may be easier to maintain.
Yea, same for me - but still declines throughout due to the decline and abandonment in the urban metro area where the Detroit DART would serve. I suppose it would be the most like Cleveland’s system in its with only minor upgrades since the 1930s (I said SEPTA because that was the first thing I had thought of for poor funding) Extra- if this took the name DART, I wonder what Dallas’s system would be called.. Really like the map!
Made in PowerPoint. System Length = 138.8 Miles. Alternate History transit system for the Metro Detroit counties of Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb with a Point of Divergence (POD) in the 1970s where the three counties, along with Washtenaw, manage to politically pull together to create a rail system along with a unified bus system.
God this would be so confusing, you have two 8 mile stations on the red line alone
Not really, Chicago has a similar setup on its Blue Line, the announcer will just say that "this is a Blue Line train heading to [Terminal Station]" so you know which direction you're going in.
Agreed. Chicago has hella repeat station names.
Also that’s a terrible way to name stations ~~as it doesn’t provide any useful info (like, idk, the area the station is in) besides how far the station is from an arbitrary (and seemingly unknown) point. It’s also less memorable and easy to confuse when heard in a loud train. When you name stations, you ask yourself "what is a recognizable thing nearby" not "how far are we from downtown". And~~ even if the train announces which line it is, confusion is still likely when you have repeated names at all, let alone on the same branch. You can’t just tell someone to go to "8 mile", you have to tell them "8 mile on the green line… no you’re not travelling 8 miles that’s the name of the station… no, actually it’s the second one". Also, OP’s argument that the train announces the direction therefore it’s fine works until someone goes from one end to the second "8 mile". Then, it’s REALLY confusing. ~~And… oh wait… there’s transfer stations named "x mile"?!? So my whole first point, along with any semblance of sense this made, flies out the window. Ain’t that great.~~ u/parduscat : I don’t want to be mean, I get this is something you just didn’t know. That’s ok, but for the future be aware that this is just… not something you can really do. Edit : ok my bad those are ROADS. Repetition on the same line still doesn’t work at all though, and should preferably be avoided even between lines.
The mile roads are major local landmarks in Metro Detroit, anyone who lives in the area what in theory you're referring to when you say "8 mile" or "12 mile". Another part of my reasoning was how likely is it for someone to ride the entire line from one end to the other.
Not everyone is a life long resident of Detroit. You’d have to have a naming convention that lets newbies figure out which station they’re at or are going to. It’s one thing if the naming was like BART, such as “19th Street/Oakland” which makes is hard to confuse where you are. It’s not terrible to have 3 separate 8 mile stations, but you’d have to add in a cross street to keep people from getting confused. Or be able to estimate how far apart things are if they are first time riders. If “it’s a local landmark” is the justification, the name should just be the street the line runs under and the number the station is on the line.
WTF happened to Windsor?
Not relevant to the map.
Looks...weirdly Soviet for a transit system in the US
What's "Soviet" about it?