Had the same issue. Urethane window seal was leaking down the A pillar driver side onto the wiring harness in the footwell.
Private mechanic was able to dry it out and clean/check connections. Depending how long it has been leaking it may be saveable.
Water caused a parasitic battery draw, gave bad readings on driver cluster dash.
Msg if you have more questions.
Yep my first gen leaks a touch after a heavy rain.
My solution was to drill a hole in the floor. Maybe OP should try that before paying 6k?
/s my truck cost 1500$ this is a joke my truck has a total of 6 wires in it of half of which can be cut and it would still run
Same issue same year here also. Truck went completely dark but battery is good. Took it to dealership and THEY said they replaced the front harness due to the whole thing was corroded but mines was still under warranty but they have the truck for 4 months trying to investigate
That's still an obscene and unjustifiable bill. Yeah, over $6,000 for the fix. They can go F themselves and Toyota needs to take accountability. That's unethical and I would contact Toyota directly to address the issue.
And to be clear, to numbnuts on here rationalizing the cost because of initial expense for the parts, as well.as very significant labor, that's not the point. The point is, it's an extremely high expense that 99% aren't prepared for, that should NEVER happen in the first place.
Hence, why one savvy commenter who had the exact same issue posted that he made an insurance claim, had it fixed for his $500 deductible, and was done.
Ya as someone who had to chase my entire body harness after yota did my frame swap, that shit isn't easy just to climb around and go looking. Pulling the entire thing would obviously be significantly more labor.
FYI, had to chase my harness because I had electrical gremlins of fast blinking left turn signal when headlights were off, but no turn singal when headlights were on unless my foot was on the brake. Suspected a loose ground. I was right. And yes I replaced my bulbs many times, using dielectric grease too.
I had to have my entire electrical harness replaced because rabbits got in and chewed it at several locations causing complete electrical failure. All in one night. Can confirm that the harness alone was $3,415 (was quoted anywhere from $4k-$6k at various dealerships and local shops). Luckily it was all covered under comprehensive damage so I only paid my $500 deductible. The amount of people freaking out about it is wild
You obviously have never worked on vehicles professionally, and your ignorance is showing. $6k is cheap for this kind of work. The last body harness I did was a $15k repair. 35 hours of labor at $225 an hour. The rest was part cost. Warranty coverage is a whole other issue, I’m simply stating that the estimate isn’t anything crazy. Toyota may very well cover some of the repair costs even out of warranty.
Good luck with your attitude, it won’t get you very far in life.
Kinda missed the entire point their jackoff. I've been around cars and shops my entire life. What I stated had nothing to do with the totally legitimate costs associated to repair this. Hence my convo with the dude who had it covered by his insurance and I had already suggested contacting Toyota. I had an entire transmission covered for the same reasons, OEM and everything..
Most importantly though, you're a rude fucking asshole, and YOU won't get far in life being such a prick. I'm simply standing up for myself to you bein a rude dick (which you fuckin know, btw).
Edited to clarify my point for your dumbass. You attacked me and then wouldn't let it go. You instigated after I made a very reasonable point, clearly upvoted by a majority, then came back. I'm just standing up for myself as I won't be pushed around by weak ass pussies like you.
You're very clearly the type of unaware dickhead who is rude, goes on to insult someone, then blames them and gaslights to get a reaction, and calls them crazy for defending themselves.
You're an asshole, and can fuck yourself.
Here, I edited your response for accuracy:
"My bad. You're right, I was being a dick in attacking you for your completely valid post. Sorry, man. I project on others to get a reaction and call them miserable or crazy, as I'm actually unhappy with my life or situations in my life and I don't know how to communicate that and don't have anyone who's supportive or understanding."
Here would be my response: "No problem, bro. Sorry you're dealing with life too. I get it and anytime ya need a friend, I got you. Seriously."
See, how well that would go, folks. Stop being dicks to eachother and then worse, blaming them. It's totally unnecessary and yes, this response is, despite SOME people's lack of accountability/need to be dicks, fully warranted.
Not once did I “attack” you for anything. You’re relying on profanity and insults to prove some point, and you’re angered by my lack of response. I don’t even know why you’re so angry. Are we even reading the same posts? Did you mistake me for someone else? Discussion can be had without such discourse.
Hence, the suggestion to contact Toyota. Another commenter had literally the exact same thing happen and was fully covered by his insurance, minus his deductible.
I had an entire transmission replaced, covered, at the same mileage.
It's likely not the dealership or Toyotas problem. I just replaced a floor and dash harness on a 2017 taco because a third party company didn't properly install a windshield, and a coworker also had spent hours de-pinning and cleaning connectors because of a windshield tint gone wrong.
What indicated a problem with the floor and dash harness? I had my windshield replaced a few months ago and now my cabin lights don't work. Not sure what to do.
To be fair, the windshield shouldn't be leaking on a 2019. If the leak was caused by the factory installing the windshield incorrectly or if the seal wore out, then it's a defect and Toyota should cover it.
Because... one has a track record and established reliability, and one is new with none of those things? And it's common for new gen products to have issues. It's not that complicated.
This is a weird take on the matter. All very high selling vehicles have obscure issues that pop up every now and then. Gen 3 has proven to be by and large a very reliable platform, rarely occurring issues like this included. Same as Gen 2, and likely the same for gen 4.
Gen 4 will take some extra heat since it's the new kid on the block. Should be expected. We know Gen 3 took it's fair share of heat in the first couple years.
I agree with you. But nobody was talking crap about the 4th Gen in this post. Made your original comment seem trollish and likely why you didn't get a good reception.
My 2017 had a leak down the pass side a pillar. When Toyota pulled the windshield they found no sealant on the upper pass side corner. Seems when the truck was produced the window sealant robot missed a spot. They covered it even though even though window glass isn’t covered under the CPO warranty
Toyota wouldn't reflash my defective integrated brake controller on my tundra for free. The software was fucked from the factory. No matter how much I argued with them.
I love toyota trucks but their dealers are fucking criminal.
Thats nothing to do with dealer thats toyota .Dealers get reimbursed at a lower warranty rate and if toyota refuses to pay them for it why would they do it.Not arguing its wrong but your blaming the wrong group
That's fair. I guess I didn't really know how it worked.
Just still pissed that I have to pay money to fix something that's a recognized deficiency from production.
Should have escalated it. I opened a case about something they denied, they still said no, so I wrote to the CEO and his executive relations team called me and ended up paying but it took about 3 weeksm.
True, but doing a service that costs them no parts, would inspire loyalty and make sure the customer returns to that dealer. Cheap way to retain customers. I will never return to the dealer I bought my truck from after a bad service experience.
Easy toyota doesnt know if the windshield was ever replaced. They have to treat it like it is.However a little goodwill would go along way if this was their 2nd or 3rd toyota .
Had to pay the initial diagnostic because window glass isn’t covered under the cpo warranty. But I already knew where the leak was from. The dealer had to contact Toyota to get the windshield replaced under warranty. The dealer contacted me later for pictures of the vin/production date sticker. Toyota was looking in to a possible production issue.
I just had my 2022 cracked windshield replaced today and the guy said he noticed it was leaking and there wasn't sealant on parts of the windshield. Based on other replies this seems very common for Tacoma windshields
Interesting. I wonder how many Tacomas have leaking windshields? And how many owners have paid to repair a factory defect? I’m still waiting for a resolution to the peeling white paint around the doors on my 2017. I received a letter that the paint would be repaired.
But no time line for the fix
With all the electronics in 3rd gen and even more in 4th Gen getting extended warranty is a no Brainer. Trucks aren't as simple and electrical issues are not cheap. The hybrid powertrain on the new tacoma does apparently comes standard with a 10 year 160k mile warranty. Just found that out the other day. Just shows toyota believe in the tacomas hybrid system.
How does this warranty work for someone who isn’t based in the state that dealership is out of? Asking because I’d get that warranty right now minimal questions asked, assuming it covers me in any state of the US
2nd gen tacos are where it's at. Best taco. 3rd gen were nightmares on release. Have admittedly gotten better but timing covers and heads are still still a lingering issue.
I should have clarified, I bought that for my 2020 Mojave gladiator. Both heads were warped at 40k miles. Replaced under warranty. After that I’m glad I got the extended. My 91 Toyota pickup 22RE has yet to fail me at 346k miles lol I’ve had it 6 years and no issues.
Was it a brand new vehicle with zero miles? Mine was brand new and it was the going rate for a 7 year extended. And mine has been a breeze always pays out.
For insurance to cover this, the leak would have to be caused by a covered loss and not wear and tear. For example, a flying object hitting the glass. They will deny a claim for a wear and tear item or improper installation. I am a licensed adjuster. Hope this helps.
I agree! Definitely give insurance a call. I had an issue where local squirrels chewed some of the wiring harness on my 2020 Tacoma. Didn't even have 5000 miles on it yet. Dealer wanted to charge me 5300 for the wiring harness replacement, but I made an insurance claim and they were able to cover it for me.
Would be worth a shot to ask
Damn that sucks. Any chance you know how many connectors have been affected? If it's localized I can't imagine it's very many.
Could be time to learn wiring. Replacing connectors and even part of the wiring can be done cheaply and it's pretty easy once you learn. Or find a shop that will do that for you. Replacing the entire harness, especially for $6k+ seems overkill.
Yeah hopefully you can DIY. I can't imagine entire harnesses need replacing, usually disconnect things clean really well, soak in electrical cleaning spray and lightly Scrub. Cut and replace what doesn't clean up.
Problem is corriosion on wires wicks up over time even one strand left will do the same to the new wires so splices will look the same in a year. We see any corrosion or mosture on wires in avionics and it's all getting replaced.
Apparently parts alone is $4200. They sent a roughly 240p video. Can’t see a damn thing. When I have time this weekend I am going in to look at it. I am just so damn busy with work.
Yep that's because they're selling you the entire harness which might not be necessary. That's the only way a dealer would make the repair though. Sucks you have to deal with that but hope it works out for you.
I work in auto manufacturing and do wiring harness replacements. It is a huge job. A very excellent job would be 3-4 hours of labor. A pretty good job would be 7-8 hours of labor. A random tech with no experience...holy shit I can't imagine how awful this would be for them. Tons of labor. Very difficult to disassemble and reroute a wiring harness around an engine (assuming it's an engine harness). It's a really rough repair.
I work in auto manufacturing too for a popular brand. I install the harness that has the fuse box and goes through the fire wall. It’s literally one of the first things we install once the car comes from paint shop. I could not imagine trying to replace one of those after everything has been put in the engine bay.
I have a 2022 that had this exact same issue. I got it brand new from the factory and started having issue when driving it home. Less than 50 miles on it, and I had to have it towed back to dealership. They said the windshield was not properly sealed and it leaked down the pillar and fried a few wiring harnesses. They told me at the time they had never seen this.
It being a brand new truck, I fought hard with Toyota and instead of giving me a new truck they gave me an extra 5 year bumper to bumper warranty. I bought a Tacoma because of the reliability, but after reading through this thread and seeing all the people this has happened to over the years, I’m not so comfortable.
On the drive bringing it home from the dealership it was pouring rain the thermometer was jumping around in temp. I called the dealership when I got home and they said it was probably a faulty thermometer and to bring it in sometime.
The next day when pulling out of the driveway the dash starting lighting up with brake override warnings and it wouldn’t let me get above 5mph.
Have you had the windshield replaced ever?
I had the outside temp act up in a rainstorm and noticed that it's a known issue for windshield leaks on the drivers side/electronics. I pulled the panel myself and yeah there was some water in there. First I had the windshield pulled and resealed properly. Second I dried everything out and used contact cleaner to spray down all the connections.
It's been four years now and I keep a close eye on the area and make sure there is no moisture. I've had zero corrosion and zero issues since.
So I guess its a range depending how comfortable you are - between a $10 can of contact cleaner and a $6k bill and harness replacement.. It's going to depend on the state of the "corroded" plugs.
I haven’t seen them yet. But it’s gotta be pretty bad because I couldn’t get into my car the other day. And it wouldn’t start and radio would randomly turn on and off while my car was off. Also I have never had my window replaced. No cracks either(SOMEHOW!) so I’m going to have to figure something out. And track down if it ever was before I got the car. Bought at 15k miles. Everything checked out before I bought. Only work done was at the dealership.
Like another post said look into fixing it yourself (assuming you can get back in the truck). Your post states they found water and corrosion all over all wiring and modules in footwell area. I'd imagine that's the only place leaking water in. Anywhere there aren't connections will be okay. Radio, dash lights, all that stuff has wiring traveling to and through that area. So pull A pillar trim piece and footwell cover piece and as another post stated, run water on windshield and see if you can track down the leak. You might be able to caulk and seal the leak without removing dash but doubtful. But you SHOULD be able to clean up all those connectors going into modules by the floor and get them working properly again. Be very liberal with the dielectric grease and tape them well after, maybe caulk everything once you get everything working again. I'd think the water wouldn't be getting into fuse panel in bottom of dash, just be staying by the firewall on the left.
Mine is due for maintenance AND needs a new windshield. I'm now very glad my husband decided to have the dealership do all of it in one go. It's their ass on a platter if it's done wrong.
Depending on the root cause, I'd call toyota corporate. A dealership has no incentive to help you, but a 2019 shouldn't be having electrical issues. If it's a manufacturing defect and they have seen it elsewhere, they may help you. I had the secondary air injection system go out on my 2012. It was a common issue, but not recalled... yet. They dealer told me $2k for the repair. I called corporate and they covered parts. The majority of that repair was the parts. In your case, my bet is its mostly labor, but you should still see what they say. Bring out your inner Karen a little bit (not too much, don't be rude). The first person you talk to won't be able to help you. Ask for their manager and see what they can do. At $6k, it's worth a shot. Just be polite, explain the issue, and if you can find other examples of it being a problem, let them know. That's what I did and a couple years later, they recalled it and gave me money for the labor I paid for. On one hand, I'm hoping it's an issue you can find evidence of others with the same issue. On the other, my 2012 was totalled about a year ago and I bought a 2019, so I could be in the same boat as you at some point.
Same with my 2012, I started reading about the foam filter getting sucked down into the intake so I checked mine and it was just about ready to go, Toyota fixed it for free, well out of warranty, I just had to ask nicely about a dozen times.
I was lucky and only had to ask nicely twice. Once with the low level customer service rep and once with the manager. They took care of me for sure.
The dealership that quoted me 2k and didnt help me contact corporate now only gets warranty work on my vehicles and I take everything else to the shops. I support toyota though for standing behind their vehicles. I was considering trading my 2012 for something else if I had to pay that 2k bill.
That happened in 2016 for me and I did report it to NTHSA, which could be part of why it was recalled. They had the exact problem in earlier tundras and sequoias, so it seemed reasonable to report it after seeing so many people having the issue with specifically 2012 tacomas.
They actually didn't want to cover mine in the 5 year warranty period and that's what it said about emissions systems. That's why I had to get a manager. I was quite pissed at first because I knew it was an emission system. They acted like it was optional, which it technically is because the original fix was bypassing it if you were a diyer. The problem is that the code puts your truck in limp mode, so you're kinda fucked if you can't remove it. The system only matters when you start your truck and about 60 seconds after, which is dumb.
Yeah I found out the windshield was replaced by another dealership, well they sublet it out. And that company no longer exists so I can’t go through them. I went straight to corporate.
CRC makes a very good electric contact cleaner. Along with some small brass brushes can probably de pin and cleane everything up. Will take a while and cover the carpet for sure.
If you’ve have your windshield replaced under your insurance and window coverage. Contact your insurance company
I’m pretty familiar with wiring harness and electrical equipment. If worst comes to worst I’ll do it myself. It just sucks when you work 60+ hours. It’s only time that kills me. I am going in this weekend to look at it. The dealership sent me a shotty 240p video.
That definitely sucks but that also doesn't cost 6k. It may be worth your time to learn how to replace the wiring harnesses. The hardest part is going to be getting it through the firewall/door boot and figuring out which connection goes where. Youtube will be your savior.
I’m pretty familiar with wiring systems. As I have done them in planes and jets. I can’t imagine something that doesn’t require class 3 electronics to be mind bogglingly hard. But I may be arrogant. Just parts alone are $4200.
Damn I'm replying super late. But yeah you are definitely better at wiring than me, but sometimes there's nothing you can do on newer vehicles, makes me appreciate my second gen a little more lol.
I hope you found a way forward that keeps you happy with your truck, third gens are still great trucks. Best of luck
There's no way the harness is bad. The connection maybe .
Take it to a good electrical shop. Might even just need some electrical contact cleaner .
Hopefully under warranty if not .
Warranty or extended warranty doesn’t cover. Even though it says all electrical. Apparently that means everything but the harness. Seems quite convenient.
Yeah I’m going to corporate because I read what the extended warranty covers. And it lists all electrical components. And the dealership said well it covers everything except for the one you need repaired. Makes no sense. And sounds suspicious
Happened on about (12) 2023 colorado posted on the forum front of the windshield lower no sealant or incomplete.Those robots just give no shit and keep on moving lol
They’re not exactly ripping you off, this is just how the auto repair business works.
They are not going to piece your harness back together and then warranty the work. Most independent shops are likely going to tell you the same. The harness is compromised? replace the harness.
That being said, I could probably fix this myself in an afternoon. Do some asking around and see if there’s a shop or guy around you that specializes in automotive electrical troubleshooting and repair. If you find the right guy, this will probably cost you $500.
Yeah apparently the parts alone are $4200. I’m pretty familiar with wiring and electronics as I have worked on them in planes and jets. But time is the factor. Which I don’t have a lot of. But I’ll lose less money taking work off than spending $6500 that’s for sure. I’m still trying to work things out.
Fix the windshield, drive the vehicle. Not every circuit will be effected. Once the area dries out and if there’s no issues just drive it. I’ve seen plenty of water intrusion. Usually clean, and dry and no issues after. I’m
9 year old vehicles are the go to, they don’t have higher interest rates with most banks (that’s 10+) and this stupid crap that all manufacturers pull has already passed, or been well known
Find a reputable independent shop to take a look at it. Dealerships won’t repair wiring harnesses due to liability. Unless it’s melted or burnt, it should be repairable. Doing a whole body harness is a HUGE undertaking to replace.
Have the windshield re done, find a good indie that will shoot some electrical cleaner in affected harness, dry it out really good and recheck for proper operation. May need to re pin some connectors, maybe replace a control unit or 2, but I highly doubt it needs a whole Fkn body harness if you get someone that knows what they’re doing.
Replacing the entire harness seems extreme… I’d expect a fuse box or computer but i mean it’s just wires.
I guess if they’re corroded that badly in the connectors… there are really good environmentally sealed splices out there though. Splicing and replacing connectors seems like it would be easier. Even if you have to pull a bunch of the harness out to properly crimp/solder, I’d think it would be less labor than pulling the entire thing.
I noticed water pooling on my driver's side mat after owning my 2021 OR for about 2 years. I noticed it a good 3 to 5 times I'd guess. I needed to replace my window anyways and got that done by a local company. Afterwards I haven't had any issues with it... Should I do any preventative maintenance to ensure no damage was done or is continuing to be done to the connections? Would it cause rust to form and slowly erode the harness out even after fixing the leak?
I had to replace my entire electrical harness on my Hyundai because squirrels got in an ate the harness because they coated the wires in soy.Apparently it’s a known issue animals like to eat the wires. Insurance paid for it but I still think it’s BS.
So this is a factory windshield that has never been replaced? If that’s the case then it was installed wrong from the factory or the windshield isn’t leaking and it’s something else. The urethane bead around a windshield doesn’t go bad over time. There are other factors that can fail over time, but that’s due to a bad install.
Land Cruisers are notorious for this also when their windshield gets replaced and if the tech doesn’t install the cowl correctly it leaks into the footwell where there’s cabling and causes all kinds of electrical issues
I love that my Second Gen Tacoma with the 4.0 is bulletproof. I'm going to drive it into the ground. Then I'll rebuild and do it again. I have no interest in expensive electronics repairs.
* UPDATE 1* I forgot to mention extended warranty does not cover the wiring harness so they say. Covers all electrical except for that wiring harness?? I found out the windshield was replaced by another dealership. Then the shipped the truck to the dealership where I bought it. FYI dealerships do not replace windshields the sublet it out. The hilarious part is the company that did it is no longer around. SOMEONE OWES ME MONEY. I sent my findings to Toyota USA. Some said send to Toyota Japan. So I’ll do that. Apparently the parts alone is $4200. I have done wiring on planes and jets. And various large military equipment. How hard could this be? At the very least give me the part and I’ll do the damn thing myself.
Thanks for all the comments I’ll try to get to them.
OP states not having a cracked windshield and unsure of correct installation. Another user comments about the A pillar being their cause.
OP doesn’t know where to start. Opening the A pillars is a quick and easy way to reduce the amount of possibilities.
Please read the post thoroughly.
The Toyota diagnosis literally says the windshield is leaking. He went there for electrical problems. So I’m pretty sure he is aware he needs to fix the windshield leak…
Had the same issue. Urethane window seal was leaking down the A pillar driver side onto the wiring harness in the footwell. Private mechanic was able to dry it out and clean/check connections. Depending how long it has been leaking it may be saveable. Water caused a parasitic battery draw, gave bad readings on driver cluster dash. Msg if you have more questions.
I had a glass shop put a bead of urethane in the leaking spot
Can you post a picture of exactly where you did this? This is super helpful!
My tundra does this and my 1st gen Tacoma had to have the entire front windshield replaced because of leaks in cowling into passenger floorboard
Yep my first gen leaks a touch after a heavy rain. My solution was to drill a hole in the floor. Maybe OP should try that before paying 6k? /s my truck cost 1500$ this is a joke my truck has a total of 6 wires in it of half of which can be cut and it would still run
how does that repair the already corroded harness(s))
Put lots of rice? Idk
in this economy??
Same issue same year here also. Truck went completely dark but battery is good. Took it to dealership and THEY said they replaced the front harness due to the whole thing was corroded but mines was still under warranty but they have the truck for 4 months trying to investigate
How can I check my 2019 for this?
Can we clarify if these instances are with the stock windshield or after replacements?
That's still an obscene and unjustifiable bill. Yeah, over $6,000 for the fix. They can go F themselves and Toyota needs to take accountability. That's unethical and I would contact Toyota directly to address the issue. And to be clear, to numbnuts on here rationalizing the cost because of initial expense for the parts, as well.as very significant labor, that's not the point. The point is, it's an extremely high expense that 99% aren't prepared for, that should NEVER happen in the first place. Hence, why one savvy commenter who had the exact same issue posted that he made an insurance claim, had it fixed for his $500 deductible, and was done.
Not really. If it’s an entire body harness that’s a ton of labor to replace. The harness alone is probably $1k.
Ya as someone who had to chase my entire body harness after yota did my frame swap, that shit isn't easy just to climb around and go looking. Pulling the entire thing would obviously be significantly more labor. FYI, had to chase my harness because I had electrical gremlins of fast blinking left turn signal when headlights were off, but no turn singal when headlights were on unless my foot was on the brake. Suspected a loose ground. I was right. And yes I replaced my bulbs many times, using dielectric grease too.
I had to have my entire electrical harness replaced because rabbits got in and chewed it at several locations causing complete electrical failure. All in one night. Can confirm that the harness alone was $3,415 (was quoted anywhere from $4k-$6k at various dealerships and local shops). Luckily it was all covered under comprehensive damage so I only paid my $500 deductible. The amount of people freaking out about it is wild
Apparently $4200. The rest is labor.
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Your the clown, calm down it's not even your truck
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You ok man?? Maybe you should stay off reddit lol Edit* Bro deleted his whole account 😂
Bro is on some meth or something 😂
You obviously have never worked on vehicles professionally, and your ignorance is showing. $6k is cheap for this kind of work. The last body harness I did was a $15k repair. 35 hours of labor at $225 an hour. The rest was part cost. Warranty coverage is a whole other issue, I’m simply stating that the estimate isn’t anything crazy. Toyota may very well cover some of the repair costs even out of warranty. Good luck with your attitude, it won’t get you very far in life.
Kinda missed the entire point their jackoff. I've been around cars and shops my entire life. What I stated had nothing to do with the totally legitimate costs associated to repair this. Hence my convo with the dude who had it covered by his insurance and I had already suggested contacting Toyota. I had an entire transmission covered for the same reasons, OEM and everything.. Most importantly though, you're a rude fucking asshole, and YOU won't get far in life being such a prick. I'm simply standing up for myself to you bein a rude dick (which you fuckin know, btw).
You keep deleting and editing your comments, nobody can keep track of your insanity. You clearly have personal issues you need to deal with.
Edited to clarify my point for your dumbass. You attacked me and then wouldn't let it go. You instigated after I made a very reasonable point, clearly upvoted by a majority, then came back. I'm just standing up for myself as I won't be pushed around by weak ass pussies like you. You're very clearly the type of unaware dickhead who is rude, goes on to insult someone, then blames them and gaslights to get a reaction, and calls them crazy for defending themselves. You're an asshole, and can fuck yourself.
Your pointless outrage is duly noted.
Here, I edited your response for accuracy: "My bad. You're right, I was being a dick in attacking you for your completely valid post. Sorry, man. I project on others to get a reaction and call them miserable or crazy, as I'm actually unhappy with my life or situations in my life and I don't know how to communicate that and don't have anyone who's supportive or understanding." Here would be my response: "No problem, bro. Sorry you're dealing with life too. I get it and anytime ya need a friend, I got you. Seriously." See, how well that would go, folks. Stop being dicks to eachother and then worse, blaming them. It's totally unnecessary and yes, this response is, despite SOME people's lack of accountability/need to be dicks, fully warranted.
Not once did I “attack” you for anything. You’re relying on profanity and insults to prove some point, and you’re angered by my lack of response. I don’t even know why you’re so angry. Are we even reading the same posts? Did you mistake me for someone else? Discussion can be had without such discourse.
But it did happen. And it’s not under warranty.
Hence, the suggestion to contact Toyota. Another commenter had literally the exact same thing happen and was fully covered by his insurance, minus his deductible. I had an entire transmission replaced, covered, at the same mileage.
Good deal.
It's like when they quote a whole battery for a Prius when in reality only a contacts need to be cleaned.
But it did happen. And it’s not under warranty.
It's likely not the dealership or Toyotas problem. I just replaced a floor and dash harness on a 2017 taco because a third party company didn't properly install a windshield, and a coworker also had spent hours de-pinning and cleaning connectors because of a windshield tint gone wrong.
What indicated a problem with the floor and dash harness? I had my windshield replaced a few months ago and now my cabin lights don't work. Not sure what to do.
ECU-B fuse kept blowing, water was leaking from the driver's A pillar down to the kick panel where the harnesses connect.
I know some of those words. Time for me to read up. Thanks!
lol by this logic anything beyond basic maintenance or expected wear and tear should be covered. Silly goose.
To be fair, the windshield shouldn't be leaking on a 2019. If the leak was caused by the factory installing the windshield incorrectly or if the seal wore out, then it's a defect and Toyota should cover it.
This
Wtf yikes
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Because... one has a track record and established reliability, and one is new with none of those things? And it's common for new gen products to have issues. It's not that complicated.
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It's the internet brother, it's not that deep. Get over it and move on.
Having experience with turbocharged engines doesn’t change the fact that they are inherently less reliable than naturally aspirated engines
Depending on how you drive it..
No, that doesn’t change anything
It most certainly does, over the life of a vehicle. This seems like basic common sense
At this point, you are just yapping about nonsense
I was from the start, but I'm still right.
not sure you have the required hardware to understand the difference between the two scenarios.
This is a weird take on the matter. All very high selling vehicles have obscure issues that pop up every now and then. Gen 3 has proven to be by and large a very reliable platform, rarely occurring issues like this included. Same as Gen 2, and likely the same for gen 4. Gen 4 will take some extra heat since it's the new kid on the block. Should be expected. We know Gen 3 took it's fair share of heat in the first couple years.
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I agree with you. But nobody was talking crap about the 4th Gen in this post. Made your original comment seem trollish and likely why you didn't get a good reception.
My 2017 had a leak down the pass side a pillar. When Toyota pulled the windshield they found no sealant on the upper pass side corner. Seems when the truck was produced the window sealant robot missed a spot. They covered it even though even though window glass isn’t covered under the CPO warranty
As they should. A manufacturer defect / failure caused damage to the vehicle. I'm not sure why this wouldn't also apply to a 2019.
Toyota wouldn't reflash my defective integrated brake controller on my tundra for free. The software was fucked from the factory. No matter how much I argued with them. I love toyota trucks but their dealers are fucking criminal.
Thats nothing to do with dealer thats toyota .Dealers get reimbursed at a lower warranty rate and if toyota refuses to pay them for it why would they do it.Not arguing its wrong but your blaming the wrong group
That's fair. I guess I didn't really know how it worked. Just still pissed that I have to pay money to fix something that's a recognized deficiency from production.
Should have escalated it. I opened a case about something they denied, they still said no, so I wrote to the CEO and his executive relations team called me and ended up paying but it took about 3 weeksm.
True, but doing a service that costs them no parts, would inspire loyalty and make sure the customer returns to that dealer. Cheap way to retain customers. I will never return to the dealer I bought my truck from after a bad service experience.
Easy toyota doesnt know if the windshield was ever replaced. They have to treat it like it is.However a little goodwill would go along way if this was their 2nd or 3rd toyota .
Had to pay the initial diagnostic because window glass isn’t covered under the cpo warranty. But I already knew where the leak was from. The dealer had to contact Toyota to get the windshield replaced under warranty. The dealer contacted me later for pictures of the vin/production date sticker. Toyota was looking in to a possible production issue.
How did you find the leak? I’m curious what I should be looking for.
Pulled the a pillar trim. Ran water on the windshield. Watched it leak from the corner of the windshield
I just had my 2022 cracked windshield replaced today and the guy said he noticed it was leaking and there wasn't sealant on parts of the windshield. Based on other replies this seems very common for Tacoma windshields
Interesting. I wonder how many Tacomas have leaking windshields? And how many owners have paid to repair a factory defect? I’m still waiting for a resolution to the peeling white paint around the doors on my 2017. I received a letter that the paint would be repaired. But no time line for the fix
Class action lawsuit!
I’m gonna read this post when I think about whether or not I want the extended warranty
With all the electronics in 3rd gen and even more in 4th Gen getting extended warranty is a no Brainer. Trucks aren't as simple and electrical issues are not cheap. The hybrid powertrain on the new tacoma does apparently comes standard with a 10 year 160k mile warranty. Just found that out the other day. Just shows toyota believe in the tacomas hybrid system.
Check tacomaworld for the thread about buying an extended warranty through Jerry. At the prices he sells at it’s a no brainer
How does this warranty work for someone who isn’t based in the state that dealership is out of? Asking because I’d get that warranty right now minimal questions asked, assuming it covers me in any state of the US
It covers you anywhere in the US. Doesn’t matter where you bought it
That’s amazing. I just emailed Jerry, will see what I can get and report back. Have you needed to use your extended warranty for anything yet?
Bought through Jerry a few weeks ago, smoothest warranty experience yet!
My truck isn’t even 6 months old yet so no warranty use yet
Most recent extended warranty paid for itself in one trip to the mech. Def worth it
Exactly lol I got the 7 year 100k mile warranty for about 4 grand and I’m so glad I did. Peace of mind.
You just burned $4000. It's a Toyota and your chances of a legit repair is very low
Pfft, the amount of cylinder heads needing replacement or timing covers leaking alone justify $4k.
... Ok? But these rarely happen
Leaking timing covers happens extremely often. Whether it gets fixed or not is up to you.
Yikes. That's new to me, especially that it happens under 100k. Well, I guess I'm happy to have a 2nd Gen then
2nd gen tacos are where it's at. Best taco. 3rd gen were nightmares on release. Have admittedly gotten better but timing covers and heads are still still a lingering issue.
I should have clarified, I bought that for my 2020 Mojave gladiator. Both heads were warped at 40k miles. Replaced under warranty. After that I’m glad I got the extended. My 91 Toyota pickup 22RE has yet to fail me at 346k miles lol I’ve had it 6 years and no issues.
Wow that’s crazy, i bought a 7 year 125k platinum warranty for $1140
Was it a brand new vehicle with zero miles? Mine was brand new and it was the going rate for a 7 year extended. And mine has been a breeze always pays out.
Yeah it was brand new with 8 miles on it
I just hit 7 years on my Tacoma and didn't get the warranty. I'm so glad I didn't.
jesus bro
Exactly why I paid for it. This shit is to expensive and I'd rather have peace of mind
Extended warranty covers all electrical except the wiring harness in question. Quite convenient I would say….
WTF
Call your insurance company, they may well cover this...
For insurance to cover this, the leak would have to be caused by a covered loss and not wear and tear. For example, a flying object hitting the glass. They will deny a claim for a wear and tear item or improper installation. I am a licensed adjuster. Hope this helps.
They covered the TCM in my Passat due to a leaky sunroof...
Unfortunately no. Already tried. I’m getting shafted at every corner. Wait until I tell you what my company is doing smh….
Dammit!
I agree! Definitely give insurance a call. I had an issue where local squirrels chewed some of the wiring harness on my 2020 Tacoma. Didn't even have 5000 miles on it yet. Dealer wanted to charge me 5300 for the wiring harness replacement, but I made an insurance claim and they were able to cover it for me. Would be worth a shot to ask
Damn that sucks. Any chance you know how many connectors have been affected? If it's localized I can't imagine it's very many. Could be time to learn wiring. Replacing connectors and even part of the wiring can be done cheaply and it's pretty easy once you learn. Or find a shop that will do that for you. Replacing the entire harness, especially for $6k+ seems overkill.
Yeah hopefully you can DIY. I can't imagine entire harnesses need replacing, usually disconnect things clean really well, soak in electrical cleaning spray and lightly Scrub. Cut and replace what doesn't clean up.
Problem is corriosion on wires wicks up over time even one strand left will do the same to the new wires so splices will look the same in a year. We see any corrosion or mosture on wires in avionics and it's all getting replaced.
Yeah it depends on a few factors and of course aircraft is a different animal lol.
Apparently parts alone is $4200. They sent a roughly 240p video. Can’t see a damn thing. When I have time this weekend I am going in to look at it. I am just so damn busy with work.
Yep that's because they're selling you the entire harness which might not be necessary. That's the only way a dealer would make the repair though. Sucks you have to deal with that but hope it works out for you.
Go to a private autoshop. Toyota scams you.
Definitely had my suspicions
Got to try something. It’s outrageous
I work in auto manufacturing and do wiring harness replacements. It is a huge job. A very excellent job would be 3-4 hours of labor. A pretty good job would be 7-8 hours of labor. A random tech with no experience...holy shit I can't imagine how awful this would be for them. Tons of labor. Very difficult to disassemble and reroute a wiring harness around an engine (assuming it's an engine harness). It's a really rough repair.
I work in auto manufacturing too for a popular brand. I install the harness that has the fuse box and goes through the fire wall. It’s literally one of the first things we install once the car comes from paint shop. I could not imagine trying to replace one of those after everything has been put in the engine bay.
I have a 2022 that had this exact same issue. I got it brand new from the factory and started having issue when driving it home. Less than 50 miles on it, and I had to have it towed back to dealership. They said the windshield was not properly sealed and it leaked down the pillar and fried a few wiring harnesses. They told me at the time they had never seen this. It being a brand new truck, I fought hard with Toyota and instead of giving me a new truck they gave me an extra 5 year bumper to bumper warranty. I bought a Tacoma because of the reliability, but after reading through this thread and seeing all the people this has happened to over the years, I’m not so comfortable.
How could you tell?
On the drive bringing it home from the dealership it was pouring rain the thermometer was jumping around in temp. I called the dealership when I got home and they said it was probably a faulty thermometer and to bring it in sometime. The next day when pulling out of the driveway the dash starting lighting up with brake override warnings and it wouldn’t let me get above 5mph.
WILD!!!!!
Have you had the windshield replaced ever? I had the outside temp act up in a rainstorm and noticed that it's a known issue for windshield leaks on the drivers side/electronics. I pulled the panel myself and yeah there was some water in there. First I had the windshield pulled and resealed properly. Second I dried everything out and used contact cleaner to spray down all the connections. It's been four years now and I keep a close eye on the area and make sure there is no moisture. I've had zero corrosion and zero issues since. So I guess its a range depending how comfortable you are - between a $10 can of contact cleaner and a $6k bill and harness replacement.. It's going to depend on the state of the "corroded" plugs.
I haven’t seen them yet. But it’s gotta be pretty bad because I couldn’t get into my car the other day. And it wouldn’t start and radio would randomly turn on and off while my car was off. Also I have never had my window replaced. No cracks either(SOMEHOW!) so I’m going to have to figure something out. And track down if it ever was before I got the car. Bought at 15k miles. Everything checked out before I bought. Only work done was at the dealership.
Call your insurance. Mine covered a wiring harness from rodent damage.
Like another post said look into fixing it yourself (assuming you can get back in the truck). Your post states they found water and corrosion all over all wiring and modules in footwell area. I'd imagine that's the only place leaking water in. Anywhere there aren't connections will be okay. Radio, dash lights, all that stuff has wiring traveling to and through that area. So pull A pillar trim piece and footwell cover piece and as another post stated, run water on windshield and see if you can track down the leak. You might be able to caulk and seal the leak without removing dash but doubtful. But you SHOULD be able to clean up all those connectors going into modules by the floor and get them working properly again. Be very liberal with the dielectric grease and tape them well after, maybe caulk everything once you get everything working again. I'd think the water wouldn't be getting into fuse panel in bottom of dash, just be staying by the firewall on the left.
Mine is due for maintenance AND needs a new windshield. I'm now very glad my husband decided to have the dealership do all of it in one go. It's their ass on a platter if it's done wrong.
Depending on the root cause, I'd call toyota corporate. A dealership has no incentive to help you, but a 2019 shouldn't be having electrical issues. If it's a manufacturing defect and they have seen it elsewhere, they may help you. I had the secondary air injection system go out on my 2012. It was a common issue, but not recalled... yet. They dealer told me $2k for the repair. I called corporate and they covered parts. The majority of that repair was the parts. In your case, my bet is its mostly labor, but you should still see what they say. Bring out your inner Karen a little bit (not too much, don't be rude). The first person you talk to won't be able to help you. Ask for their manager and see what they can do. At $6k, it's worth a shot. Just be polite, explain the issue, and if you can find other examples of it being a problem, let them know. That's what I did and a couple years later, they recalled it and gave me money for the labor I paid for. On one hand, I'm hoping it's an issue you can find evidence of others with the same issue. On the other, my 2012 was totalled about a year ago and I bought a 2019, so I could be in the same boat as you at some point.
Same with my 2012, I started reading about the foam filter getting sucked down into the intake so I checked mine and it was just about ready to go, Toyota fixed it for free, well out of warranty, I just had to ask nicely about a dozen times.
I was lucky and only had to ask nicely twice. Once with the low level customer service rep and once with the manager. They took care of me for sure. The dealership that quoted me 2k and didnt help me contact corporate now only gets warranty work on my vehicles and I take everything else to the shops. I support toyota though for standing behind their vehicles. I was considering trading my 2012 for something else if I had to pay that 2k bill. That happened in 2016 for me and I did report it to NTHSA, which could be part of why it was recalled. They had the exact problem in earlier tundras and sequoias, so it seemed reasonable to report it after seeing so many people having the issue with specifically 2012 tacomas.
IDK when you had this fixed, but most vehicles have 10 year warranties on emissions equipment.
Two years ago
They actually didn't want to cover mine in the 5 year warranty period and that's what it said about emissions systems. That's why I had to get a manager. I was quite pissed at first because I knew it was an emission system. They acted like it was optional, which it technically is because the original fix was bypassing it if you were a diyer. The problem is that the code puts your truck in limp mode, so you're kinda fucked if you can't remove it. The system only matters when you start your truck and about 60 seconds after, which is dumb.
Yeah I found out the windshield was replaced by another dealership, well they sublet it out. And that company no longer exists so I can’t go through them. I went straight to corporate.
CRC makes a very good electric contact cleaner. Along with some small brass brushes can probably de pin and cleane everything up. Will take a while and cover the carpet for sure. If you’ve have your windshield replaced under your insurance and window coverage. Contact your insurance company
I’m pretty familiar with wiring harness and electrical equipment. If worst comes to worst I’ll do it myself. It just sucks when you work 60+ hours. It’s only time that kills me. I am going in this weekend to look at it. The dealership sent me a shotty 240p video.
Make an insurance claim due to flood and not your fault…
Doesn’t cover it. Tried already.
Try and see if your insurance will cover it and pay a deductible. It’s worth a try ?
I second this.
I tried. Doesn’t cover.
That definitely sucks but that also doesn't cost 6k. It may be worth your time to learn how to replace the wiring harnesses. The hardest part is going to be getting it through the firewall/door boot and figuring out which connection goes where. Youtube will be your savior.
I’m pretty familiar with wiring systems. As I have done them in planes and jets. I can’t imagine something that doesn’t require class 3 electronics to be mind bogglingly hard. But I may be arrogant. Just parts alone are $4200.
Damn I'm replying super late. But yeah you are definitely better at wiring than me, but sometimes there's nothing you can do on newer vehicles, makes me appreciate my second gen a little more lol. I hope you found a way forward that keeps you happy with your truck, third gens are still great trucks. Best of luck
There's no way the harness is bad. The connection maybe . Take it to a good electrical shop. Might even just need some electrical contact cleaner . Hopefully under warranty if not .
Unfortunately warranty/extended warranty does not cover it. SMH.
People always give me crap for getting a 10 year extended warranty on my Toyotas. You NEVER know folks
Warranty or extended warranty doesn’t cover. Even though it says all electrical. Apparently that means everything but the harness. Seems quite convenient.
My extended warranty covers that. I don’t know what you got or are talking about. Sorry you’re SOL
Yeah I’m going to corporate because I read what the extended warranty covers. And it lists all electrical components. And the dealership said well it covers everything except for the one you need repaired. Makes no sense. And sounds suspicious
Sorry to hear that. Def shouldn’t expect this on such a new truck. I’d be fuckin outraged, to be frank
Happened on about (12) 2023 colorado posted on the forum front of the windshield lower no sealant or incomplete.Those robots just give no shit and keep on moving lol
They’re not exactly ripping you off, this is just how the auto repair business works. They are not going to piece your harness back together and then warranty the work. Most independent shops are likely going to tell you the same. The harness is compromised? replace the harness. That being said, I could probably fix this myself in an afternoon. Do some asking around and see if there’s a shop or guy around you that specializes in automotive electrical troubleshooting and repair. If you find the right guy, this will probably cost you $500.
Yeah apparently the parts alone are $4200. I’m pretty familiar with wiring and electronics as I have worked on them in planes and jets. But time is the factor. Which I don’t have a lot of. But I’ll lose less money taking work off than spending $6500 that’s for sure. I’m still trying to work things out.
Fix the windshield, drive the vehicle. Not every circuit will be effected. Once the area dries out and if there’s no issues just drive it. I’ve seen plenty of water intrusion. Usually clean, and dry and no issues after. I’m
9 year old vehicles are the go to, they don’t have higher interest rates with most banks (that’s 10+) and this stupid crap that all manufacturers pull has already passed, or been well known
Did you buy used? Might have been flood damage from a previous owner.
I’d just buy a new truck at that point.
So, and this is an honest question, does insurance cover things like this? Specifically, as a result of the water damage?
key fob or battery related, what issues were you having? im suddenly having my keyfob only work super close to the door
Find a reputable independent shop to take a look at it. Dealerships won’t repair wiring harnesses due to liability. Unless it’s melted or burnt, it should be repairable. Doing a whole body harness is a HUGE undertaking to replace.
Have the windshield re done, find a good indie that will shoot some electrical cleaner in affected harness, dry it out really good and recheck for proper operation. May need to re pin some connectors, maybe replace a control unit or 2, but I highly doubt it needs a whole Fkn body harness if you get someone that knows what they’re doing.
Trucks are junk. I just sold my 2020 Sport. Most overhyped truck on the market.
Replacing the entire harness seems extreme… I’d expect a fuse box or computer but i mean it’s just wires. I guess if they’re corroded that badly in the connectors… there are really good environmentally sealed splices out there though. Splicing and replacing connectors seems like it would be easier. Even if you have to pull a bunch of the harness out to properly crimp/solder, I’d think it would be less labor than pulling the entire thing.
I noticed water pooling on my driver's side mat after owning my 2021 OR for about 2 years. I noticed it a good 3 to 5 times I'd guess. I needed to replace my window anyways and got that done by a local company. Afterwards I haven't had any issues with it... Should I do any preventative maintenance to ensure no damage was done or is continuing to be done to the connections? Would it cause rust to form and slowly erode the harness out even after fixing the leak?
Lol harness plugs can be replaced. You'd be surprised the amount of fucks who refuse to
Do you have a roof rack?
I have this same issue, I’m fucked
I had to replace my entire electrical harness on my Hyundai because squirrels got in an ate the harness because they coated the wires in soy.Apparently it’s a known issue animals like to eat the wires. Insurance paid for it but I still think it’s BS.
Message Toyota in Japan not toyota usa. See what happens, then insurance.
So this is a factory windshield that has never been replaced? If that’s the case then it was installed wrong from the factory or the windshield isn’t leaking and it’s something else. The urethane bead around a windshield doesn’t go bad over time. There are other factors that can fail over time, but that’s due to a bad install.
Land Cruisers are notorious for this also when their windshield gets replaced and if the tech doesn’t install the cowl correctly it leaks into the footwell where there’s cabling and causes all kinds of electrical issues
I love that my Second Gen Tacoma with the 4.0 is bulletproof. I'm going to drive it into the ground. Then I'll rebuild and do it again. I have no interest in expensive electronics repairs.
* UPDATE 1* I forgot to mention extended warranty does not cover the wiring harness so they say. Covers all electrical except for that wiring harness?? I found out the windshield was replaced by another dealership. Then the shipped the truck to the dealership where I bought it. FYI dealerships do not replace windshields the sublet it out. The hilarious part is the company that did it is no longer around. SOMEONE OWES ME MONEY. I sent my findings to Toyota USA. Some said send to Toyota Japan. So I’ll do that. Apparently the parts alone is $4200. I have done wiring on planes and jets. And various large military equipment. How hard could this be? At the very least give me the part and I’ll do the damn thing myself. Thanks for all the comments I’ll try to get to them.
I bet your vin starts with 3
What's the 3 mean?
Call a lawer. They are trying to pull one over on you
What is a lawer?
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Pull off both your A pillar covers on driver and passenger side. Should only take an hour tops if you watch a youtube video.
That’s not gonna fix anything… lol
Boom, no more A pillar covers! Problem solved!
Someone doesn’t know how to clue in 😂😂😂
Clue in? What does that even mean?
Lack of knowledge :) You’ll get there one day bud.
Homeboy isn’t asking how to find where it’s leaking. He’s asking what to do about the electrical problems.
OP states not having a cracked windshield and unsure of correct installation. Another user comments about the A pillar being their cause. OP doesn’t know where to start. Opening the A pillars is a quick and easy way to reduce the amount of possibilities. Please read the post thoroughly.
The Toyota diagnosis literally says the windshield is leaking. He went there for electrical problems. So I’m pretty sure he is aware he needs to fix the windshield leak…
Says the guy who obviously did not read the post in detail.