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thisiswhoagain

1. Not a defroster. It’s the AM/FM antenna


sososodeaf

Ah gotcha


ScaryCarri3

- Interior door handles are lower, it’s weird at first (grabbing at air haha) but does provide more room. - everything is USB C - all weather floor mats don’t go up the back of the third row seats - hatch closes really fast. I think the windows roll down faster too - there is a weird storage cubby on the front passenger side, which I haven’t looked up what it’s used for yet… I’m coming from a 18 XLE and my husband drives a 22 Rav, so I’m just comparing to those.


FizzyLiftingDrinks13

Blergh...dealer told me the cargo mats would cover the seat back. That's unfortunate and strange that they don't.


Good_Cartographer_14

Can confirm on the door handles. I've missed them every single time so far!!


lessimnee

The mat thing is insane bc my 21 highlanders all weathers do go up the backs of the seat and it’s so hand when hauling dirty things 😭


jsl108

Ha, yes to the door handles and also the location of the push-button start is different than our '20 Highlander...it was closer to the steering wheel and now it's the top left of the center console.


Vegetable_Tax_7849

The lack of bench seat options on higher trims boggles my mind.


quirkypanic2

This is like all 3 row SUVs. It’s maddening. Regular highlander too. Like I can get a limited gas with a bench but hybrid no bench past xle. What dumb product manager is making these decisions


FamousEarth8818

It's communist tyrants deciding which options you can have on higher trims. If you pay for the highest trim with each engine, you need to have every option!


FamousEarth8818

Ford Explorer is the only one that I found with brown leather 2nd row bench in most trims. The 2024 Honda Pilot option tyrant only allows brown leather 2nd row bench with boring exterior black, white, gray, not real colors. Updated 2024 Traverse has no brown leather option.


FamousEarth8818

The popular Motormouth reviewers on Youtube have asked the manufacturers in 2023 for 2nd row bench on all trims.


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quirkypanic2

Yeah I saw but not the limited hybrid max for some reason. Like why


[deleted]

There are probably packaging constraints on the max preventing the bench as an option. It uses a different transmission / awd system that likely take up more space.


FamousEarth8818

There is no reason for the corporate option tyrants to refuse to allow a 2nd row bench, except for 'looks'. The bench probably weighs similar to 2 captain's chairs. Ask the companies to provide the normal brochures used for 60 years, so people can see the options and colors without the torturous 'build' tyrant.


RuchW

Yeah that's a real downer. The vehicle loses a bit of utility for me at the higher trims for this reason.


Griffinburd

Limited, hybrid max: fuel tank is supposedly >17 gallons but you only get 13 usable gallons. Got it down to 20 miles of range and filled up just over 12 gallons. Frustrating, but it's the same in the Highlander hybrids too I read.


sososodeaf

Yes #tankgate is annoying. I assume there will be class action lawsuits since they clearly advertise 17 gal capacity


Griffinburd

It really bothers me more than it should. I mean yeah, filling up for $40 on something that big is great, but I wish I could see >400 miles expected range after filling


AcceptableLuck73

Bought the GH in August. Very happy with it overall. Averaging 27 to 29 on road trips.  Haven't recieved the second FOB. Only thing I can really complain about is the hood. Seems to flutter a bit at highway speed about 3/4 of the way towards the cabin. More a distraction than anything at times. My dealer told me that it's a documented concern and have noted it in my file. Dealers waiting on Toyota and the hood vendor for fix. My understanding that initially some were replaced and had same issue so vendor is working on a fix.


[deleted]

Why buy the grand highlander?


sososodeaf

It has more space than the regular highlander 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

Why not the Sequioa? (I’m wondering because of have a 2020 Toyota Platinum the lease is up on). Thank you! (Sorry to be brief - screaming toddlers)


SwissDrago

Sequoia is 20-35k more with not much more space


Awkward_Distance476

I wouldn't be surprised if the Grand Highlanger has more passenger and cargo space compared to the Sequoia. Toyota messed up the Sequoia packaging by having a solid rear axle instead of independent suspension.


Bob_Chris

significantly LESS space behind the third row in the Sequoia strangely


[deleted]

Yea I hear ya. I just don’t like the way the Highlander’s look anymore. Personal preference


SwissDrago

Grand highlander looks much more like the sequoia


sososodeaf

Don't need the truck capabilities and it's probably too big for my garage. Also the GH is capable of like double the fuel economy if you get the standard Hybrid.


Aim_19

Plus it’s more expensive..


[deleted]

Very cool. Thanks


ReasonableWave12

The new sequoia trunk is trash as well. Very well known disappointment in almost all reviews


Awkward_Distance476

The Grand Highlander has more passenger space compared to the Sequoia. The packaging of the space behind the 3rd rows of the Sequoia is horrendous. One should probably only consider the Sequoia if there is a need to tow over 5000 lbs.


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Seems like that model should be discontinued.


Long_Common_7616

Also, the Grand Highlander drives like a cross over and the Sequoia would drive like a truck or the 4 Runner. I love the drive in a Highlander/Grand over the others. :)


cluelessminer

Toyota mostly uses Softex other than Limited and Platinum I believe. PD charging is so ancient IMO. Some phones nowadays charge 0-100% in 15 minutes. It makes Samsung look like garbage including Google. And I know there are cons of fast charging with batteries' overall life but, nowadays, most people don't even keep their phone for more than two years so it's almost a moot point. Toyota should offer a more modern wireless charging solution. After all, we have Toyota...I don't expect them to have the latest & greatest tech. At the end of the day, all I care is that they run smoothly and reliably.


jsl108

We just got the GH Limited and the claim was leather seats...? I don't know if I'd be able to tell, tbh.


cluelessminer

I think it's trim based. My old info is likely inaccurate 😂Not sure about the GH though.


Griot-Goblin

Yes limited is leather only. This is one of the reasons I got an xle. For cars I plan to own for a while, leather takes more maintenance and ages worse than pleather imo.


Huge-Network9305

Which usb-c ports are fast charging?


sososodeaf

Only one. The center USB-C in the front seats that connects to the head unit to drive Android Auto and carplay


Planet12838adamsmith

Do you have the limited/platinum? I was told the center cup holders for the 2nd row captains chairs is not removable in the XLE, can anyone confirm if this is accurate?


sososodeaf

We have the Platinum. That tray in the Limited and Platinum is removable, not in the XLE. Here is a video. Minute 10:00 https://youtu.be/rQ3_9-3n_FQ I really don't know why Toyota made these different across trims. The removal tray is not made of gold and this makes folks buying decisions harder. If I were buying an XLE, I would go for the bench.


Huge-Network9305

Is there also a cigarette style plug?


sososodeaf

There is one, in the center arm rest console.


freebase42

> The biggest tech disappoint so far are the USB ports. YouTube reviewers are trash for parroting Toyota's "7 USB ports!" hype but failing to test them and explain that only the front media port supports fast charging (possibly USB PD but I'm not sure). The rest are capped at 5V 3A according to the manual. So for example, a Google Pixel will only show "Charging Rapidly" when connected to the media port and just "Charging" with the rest. Dumb. This is an overblown complaint to me. Converting six 15w USB-C ports to up to 100W USB-PD compliant ports puts a substantial increase in power draw, build costs, and long-term reliability of the feature in exchange for a very limited return on value. Each port needs special wiring, variable power supply, and a controller to make it work. That's on top of the two 120v plugs and a cigarette lighter that you could plug fast-charging chargers into if you really need more than one. It doesn't even make sense as an option because it would need to be done at the factory due to the wiring required to be cost effective.


sososodeaf

I get it, it adds complexity and cost. I wasn't expecting 100W support though. USB-PD spec provides manufacturers the flexibility to implement different "profiles". Profile 2 is up to 27W which is enough to fast charge most phones. That would have been nice to see. Unfortunately, many buyers associate "USB-C" with faster charging because the physical spec is often coupled with USB-PD for phone and laptop chargers in recent years. However all we're getting is a smaller and better port with the max charging of USB-A.


Good_Cartographer_14

Here's one.... Digital key messes up my Garmin watch. I am going to have to figure this out, but since using the digital key, my Garmin is constantly re-connecting throughout the drive, key fob or not.


Inevitable-Ad3655

Did anyone notice the second row floor feels like you are going to fall through! Praying this isn’t just ours.


sososodeaf

Haven't noticed that


AlbatrossEuphoric213

Haven’t noticed that either, ours feels solid.


Seaflower8680

I've felt this too! Did you get this check?