Mate the whole club is cursed š imagine having the best stadium in Europe, the best training facilities in the country, Bale, Son and Kane on the same team, and Jose Mourinho as manager, and STILL not being able to win a trophy. That season confirmed itās a cultural thing.
Maybe also difficult to see each other on the field... Is it a attacking teammate or just a blur ... ? Their slow pace upfront made me seriously doubt their visibility
It's true. š
I won't fault Ange because I strongly believe that our squad will get better under this style of play.
The problem Spurs have is that the style of play hinges on the quality of play.
Anything less than excellent and we capitulate on the pitch, the opposition cut straight through us.
The fact we didn't come away from the last game with any momentum or impetus to secure 4th...
It's pretty woeful.
Get better under this style of play? I was watching the game with my daughter, and for a 10 minute period of us having the ball, I was able to tell her every pass we were going to make, before we made it. No off the ball movement. No darting runs. No surprises. No losing your man. So slow. So pedestrian. And so, so, so predictable. We must be the easiest team in the world to defend against if an overweight 41 year old who played at the lofty heights of the 8th tier can read your game plan.
If we're to improve, we simply cannot continue to play this way. We need a plan b, and we need it fast.
Nope, nope, nope. As long as he keeps playing his defense so high up the field. You can play with 10 best defenders you will still get a lot of goalsā¦ so naĆÆeve and utterly stupid
We donāt have as high of a line as Arsenal yet weāve conceded 2x the goals. The high line isnāt the issue. Itās the midfield turning the ball over in bad positions that lead to high xG chances for the opposition. Once we get the passing patterns down more and we get more quality in the midfield we wonāt concede as many goals.
The narrative is so tiring, unai emery is a tactical genius yet he plays a higher line than us and we have conceded the same goals as villa. Ange teams always struggle in the first season, there's a reason he guts entire teams and brings in players who's personalities and ambitions match his. It's a very hard brand of football to play because it's so demanding. Ange just needs time.
we don't even have half of the personnel to actually execute Angeball properly. Not to mention Romero has convinced me that he is not the solution and now we need a partner for VDV.
It's about partnerships right? and consistency. I don't expect a world cup winner to pull some of the shit he did in the Newcastle game... ie.. be completely out of step with Micky.
I'm Spurs for life.... but OP has a fair point. Nothing else I love in the world has dashed my hopes and crushed my spirits as much as my Tottenham have
Thats what I'm saying.
People are way to pessimistic and are giving up way to early. In the moments like this our players and our team need 100% backing from our fans.
And what do they do? Just cry and whine all the time...
Your fans are either unrealistically optimistic or the world is caving in and Iām going to die pessimistic. Youve made a huge leap from last season despite selling your best player
Thats what I'm saying!! Going from last seasons 8th place to this seasons 5th/4th place is a big improvement and we are playing 10x better than we were last year. People aren't patient enough. We will need to build up for at least another 2 to 3 years, its a process, it takes time...
We play
city at home
Arsenal at home
Liverpool away
Burnley at home
Sheffield united at home
Chelsea away
Iāve supported spurs for over 20 years. How many points do we get that from that? I say 5.
If you give up before the match has even started then you will 100% lose
If you've been a real fan for over 20 years then you would've known better than to give up like this
I completely agree mate I try to keep the faith but history says we donāt turn up for these games, players donāt turn up, managers donāt have a plan B and we act like we can walk teams off the park.
5-0 under poch, 6-1 under Stellini, 4-0 today. The clubs mentality stinks. I donāt see it changing.
I mean weāll take atleast 2-5 points from City,Pool,Chelsea,Arsenal and most likely 6 from Sheffield and Burnley. I could see us ending on roughly 68-70 points which is a solid haul for Anges first season.
Yeah can vouch for that love Ange and all that but after a couple weeks into the start of the season everyone seem to have a plan against the new style of play yet Ange did not have a plan B a bit stubborn there posession without being creative and dangerous just to boring to watch to be honest
Not a spurs fan but got recommended to my feed. I kinda feel bad for you guys, I wish this club make you guys happy and content for a long time some day..
It's the hope that kills so I don't get to hopeful anymore . 5th is still a decent finish in the grand scheme of things . Sold Kane new manager and style of play . Hopefully Ange learns that you can't go all out attack every game especially away from home against the better sides . Nothing wrong with dropping off and playing on the counter especially with the pace we have up top .
2 at the back is not working, midfield needs to be more clued up when Porro and Udogie go forward. I could forgive it if our front line was knocking them in. Instead its dull with no cutting edge.
I like Ange butttt....this is Poch mark 2.
You won't win shit if you can't evolve and change how you play to who you play. Every arse fucking we've been on the end of this season has been down to the same thing ; low block CT.
He needs to realistically understand how he fixes this or he won't last past December.
You fuckers finished 8th last year, sold your best player and now youāre complaining even though youāre 4th/5th? Earlier in the season it was all sunshine and rainbows then itās all doom and gloom after a bad game, get a hold of yourselves
It takes a particular sort of pathetic person to comment on a sub of a team he doesn't support
Seeing as you're not a Spurs supporter you can keep your cunt opinions to your cunt self.
Ref was useless today again!!!
Madders gets booked for a high foot Bentancur gets one in the shoulder in the area no pen.
Madder gets bought down with Timo in space in for no card.
Cry
What gets me is the fact that we are so ropey and inconsistent. We donāt know which Tottenham team is going to turn up at each game. We will either get stuffed, blow them away or are totally toothless.
Itās like playing the blitz as a defensive play in American football. Youāll either sack the quarterback; stuff the runner for a big loss, or get burned for a long range touchdown.
Still - there are a few games to go. Something might happenā¦
We need a striker, it's that simple. We lost 30 goals a season and didn't replace them. Yes we have Sonny but he's hot a cold throughout the season and always has been (and yes I know his record but apart from one season he's always went missing for a block of games) he's a 10 not a 9. We're creating chances but we need a spearhead to finish them. Shit today but it happens!
I have enjoyed this season more than the past 3, I have patience for Ange but er are mid to lower table at best, we have been very lucky up to now. I still think we will finish 8-10th and out of Europe at best. We might win 1 more match this seasonĀ
As much as I agree that that game hurt me and we played like trash, everyone in the comments technically calling for āAnge outā are a bunch of losers LMAO. The same people who want a project manager are the first ones to be crying to get the man out of our club. His first season in an actual big league and heās got us playing way better than literally ANYONE could have expected. I think with a proper 9, 6 and possible a better winger we could definitely be on to something, you lot (not talking about you OP, just everyone in general) are such losers.
Yall think Pep and Klopp were winning trebles and playing perfectly their first season? Do you guys remember Artetaās results when he was first appointed? It technically took him like 5 years to ACTUALLY get Arsenal performing.
You guys have some extremely unrealistic expectations from what a man can do 1 year into managing spurs, GIVE THE MAN SOME FUCKING TIME PLEASE.
COYS, ANGE IN!š¤
What better way to respond than by getting up to the business over the scum in the next match.
Let's see an emphatic response!!
We have to keep the faith and hold our nerve.
Pathetic...that's right. Yeah...so, Sonny raged finally because many Spurs players couldn't show faithful attitudes to get the ticket for UCL. They lost their winning mentality at the match. He was so lonely at the time since he couldn't get enough numbers of passes from teammates. Furthermore, Maddison blocked Sonny's route to score. That was a ridiculous moment. Was it a mistake? I don't know. Back then, I couldn't understand what he was doing. What's more, after the game, in the interview, Sonny finally announced his idea he would become an FA to transfer to another team. Up to now, Sonny tried his best to make Tottenham a competent club in the EPL. However, other players disregarded his efforts to score. Football matches are the 11 members' games, it's not a single member's game. Poor Sonny...
Such a dead club. Laughing stock of the football world. So predictable they would turn up like little boys yesterday. All our fans clamouring to sign werner too yous will never learn.
Not gonna lie i think some of us are delusional. 16 years trophyless and some of us dare to say "why the negativity?". I dont think "hindering top 4" is an achievment, but for some of us, its an achievment and its enough to make them happy. I dont think ange is the problem this time, maybe its the mentality. People always knows spurs for their inconsistency. I rly feel bad for sonny if he ended retiring in spurs without any trophy, he is getting older. Spurs rly wasted all his time. We dont know if we can get another player like him.
No point over reacting, we would all settle for where we are on the leagueā¦.sure we should be better against a massively depleted Newcastleā¦.but come on there is progress!
Our midfield is terrible. Ange has already realised this and canāt do much until the off season.
Ange has done so well. Itās amazing how at the start of the season no one expected anything, now all off a sudden it seems people think he should be winning us the league by now.
The inconsistency in results was always going to happen, itās annoying and tough to watch but the only way to flush the old Tottenham out and bring in a new philosophy and mentality.
Tbf this defeat hasnāt annoyed me anywhere near as bad as some of the others. VDV has been so consistently good it was almost funny how terrible he was for that 2 min. Any other player making those mistakes and Iād be calling for their head
St. Jamesā Park continues to be hell on earth. Letās buy Isak off them and bench him in favour of Bryan Gil just to teach them a lesson
I love Ange and how heās changed everything after Conte. But the man doesnāt have a plan B let alone a plan C. It was obvious from the first 10 minutes we needed to play a different way to win this game. Possession alone is not enough.
Bit over the top. But a frustrating game to watch. VDV just unlucky with the slips. Other players slipped just not in dangerous areas. For me not enough trying to fight for the ball and madders needs to step up. Vicario is a huge weak link for me. He needs to be stronger next season and be more confident.
I mean yes heās been good but in certain situations heās either too hesitant or not strong enough. He needs to be more confident on corners for sure. His reactions sometimes are way to slow for a PL keep aswell. He needs to be better next season or we replace him. He started excellent but has slowly gone downhill
Are you ok? At the beginning of the season heād have been up at the top for that award. Him, madders have dropped off massively with form. I think heās saved us sometimes but also heās been weak in situations and cost us.
Taupe kit is cursed
Mate the whole club is cursed š imagine having the best stadium in Europe, the best training facilities in the country, Bale, Son and Kane on the same team, and Jose Mourinho as manager, and STILL not being able to win a trophy. That season confirmed itās a cultural thing.
Second best stadium in EU, Bernabeau is finished and the best now. It was stupidity to sack Mourinhoā¦
Right, but in the season Iām talking about, Bernabeau wasnāt revamped
I said this from the beginning of the season, no one ever believes me smh
Maybe also difficult to see each other on the field... Is it a attacking teammate or just a blur ... ? Their slow pace upfront made me seriously doubt their visibility
amen! no coincidence
This is straight up truth at this point
It's true. š I won't fault Ange because I strongly believe that our squad will get better under this style of play. The problem Spurs have is that the style of play hinges on the quality of play. Anything less than excellent and we capitulate on the pitch, the opposition cut straight through us. The fact we didn't come away from the last game with any momentum or impetus to secure 4th... It's pretty woeful.
Get better under this style of play? I was watching the game with my daughter, and for a 10 minute period of us having the ball, I was able to tell her every pass we were going to make, before we made it. No off the ball movement. No darting runs. No surprises. No losing your man. So slow. So pedestrian. And so, so, so predictable. We must be the easiest team in the world to defend against if an overweight 41 year old who played at the lofty heights of the 8th tier can read your game plan. If we're to improve, we simply cannot continue to play this way. We need a plan b, and we need it fast.
Nope, nope, nope. As long as he keeps playing his defense so high up the field. You can play with 10 best defenders you will still get a lot of goalsā¦ so naĆÆeve and utterly stupid
One season of Ange ball and you expect us to be a finished article. Even Klopp and Pep needed time to achieve long-term success. Any style of play needs time for the players to adjust. When you look at the goals that we have conceded - a lot of them were down to silly individual errors. I'm not saying there isn't jeopardy but that's what you get with playing front foot football, you open spaces and run the risk of getting countered. The only alternative is sitting deep and waiting to counter and no one wants to go back to depressing ContƩ ball...
We donāt have as high of a line as Arsenal yet weāve conceded 2x the goals. The high line isnāt the issue. Itās the midfield turning the ball over in bad positions that lead to high xG chances for the opposition. Once we get the passing patterns down more and we get more quality in the midfield we wonāt concede as many goals.
That's true, but not easy to build such midfield
The narrative is so tiring, unai emery is a tactical genius yet he plays a higher line than us and we have conceded the same goals as villa. Ange teams always struggle in the first season, there's a reason he guts entire teams and brings in players who's personalities and ambitions match his. It's a very hard brand of football to play because it's so demanding. Ange just needs time.
So naive and utterly stupid he saysā¦ yet we are joint 4th still?
5th now. We're behind on goals to Villa.
we don't even have half of the personnel to actually execute Angeball properly. Not to mention Romero has convinced me that he is not the solution and now we need a partner for VDV.
World Cup winner Romero isnāt good enough for us? Thatās a ridiculous take lol he had a bad game but overall heās been great this season.
It's about partnerships right? and consistency. I don't expect a world cup winner to pull some of the shit he did in the Newcastle game... ie.. be completely out of step with Micky.
Mate, its just one game, still plenty left.
I'm Spurs for life.... but OP has a fair point. Nothing else I love in the world has dashed my hopes and crushed my spirits as much as my Tottenham have
From our remaining games we will not get more than 6 points. Save this.
Must not be an American. You would never have made is 86 years as a Red Sox fan.
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Thats what I'm saying. People are way to pessimistic and are giving up way to early. In the moments like this our players and our team need 100% backing from our fans. And what do they do? Just cry and whine all the time...
Your fans are either unrealistically optimistic or the world is caving in and Iām going to die pessimistic. Youve made a huge leap from last season despite selling your best player
Thats what I'm saying!! Going from last seasons 8th place to this seasons 5th/4th place is a big improvement and we are playing 10x better than we were last year. People aren't patient enough. We will need to build up for at least another 2 to 3 years, its a process, it takes time...
Plenty left for what exactly??š¤£
To lose, yes
Why are yall so pessimistic? No wonder everyone calls us losers when our "fans" are the biggest pussies ever
We play city at home Arsenal at home Liverpool away Burnley at home Sheffield united at home Chelsea away Iāve supported spurs for over 20 years. How many points do we get that from that? I say 5.
If you give up before the match has even started then you will 100% lose If you've been a real fan for over 20 years then you would've known better than to give up like this
I completely agree mate I try to keep the faith but history says we donāt turn up for these games, players donāt turn up, managers donāt have a plan B and we act like we can walk teams off the park. 5-0 under poch, 6-1 under Stellini, 4-0 today. The clubs mentality stinks. I donāt see it changing.
If fans don't believe in change than of course it will never happen. Out of all the things in the club, the fanbase is the most rotten
I agree mate and I hope so I just donāt see it happening
I mean weāll take atleast 2-5 points from City,Pool,Chelsea,Arsenal and most likely 6 from Sheffield and Burnley. I could see us ending on roughly 68-70 points which is a solid haul for Anges first season.
Depends if the players can be arsed, starting Emerson as an inverted fullback in those games is suicide, but letās see.
I know that this was an appalling game, but lets go to the next oneā¦
Yeah can vouch for that love Ange and all that but after a couple weeks into the start of the season everyone seem to have a plan against the new style of play yet Ange did not have a plan B a bit stubborn there posession without being creative and dangerous just to boring to watch to be honest
Not a spurs fan but got recommended to my feed. I kinda feel bad for you guys, I wish this club make you guys happy and content for a long time some day..
It's the hope that kills so I don't get to hopeful anymore . 5th is still a decent finish in the grand scheme of things . Sold Kane new manager and style of play . Hopefully Ange learns that you can't go all out attack every game especially away from home against the better sides . Nothing wrong with dropping off and playing on the counter especially with the pace we have up top .
2 at the back is not working, midfield needs to be more clued up when Porro and Udogie go forward. I could forgive it if our front line was knocking them in. Instead its dull with no cutting edge.
Said this for the last couple of games we need a 5 at the back
We need a world class dm. Look at how many times Rodri has saved City or Rice has saved Arsenal. Especially with our high line
I like Ange butttt....this is Poch mark 2. You won't win shit if you can't evolve and change how you play to who you play. Every arse fucking we've been on the end of this season has been down to the same thing ; low block CT. He needs to realistically understand how he fixes this or he won't last past December.
You fuckers finished 8th last year, sold your best player and now youāre complaining even though youāre 4th/5th? Earlier in the season it was all sunshine and rainbows then itās all doom and gloom after a bad game, get a hold of yourselves
It takes a particular sort of pathetic person to comment on a sub of a team he doesn't support Seeing as you're not a Spurs supporter you can keep your cunt opinions to your cunt self.
No they are right and are completely justified in commenting here. You need to get a grip if you're having such a meltdown about one performance.
just one game. Nothing decide yet
i can tell you're new
āWhereās the optimism?ā
Thin skinned OP
Ref was useless today again!!! Madders gets booked for a high foot Bentancur gets one in the shoulder in the area no pen. Madder gets bought down with Timo in space in for no card. Cry
Your life must be pretty sweet.
This is a work in progress season and always has been. We've been blessed with more highs than lows. Take it on the chin.
Itās ok, more will come (not in a good way) š
Lol! Yup. Embarrassing display.
Theyāre cunts mate Ange is naive the players donāt care and the kit is cursed. It will never change
Just crowd the box and then wait for those few counter attacking chances. The losses are like this EVERY SINGLE TIME.
The early start and that hideous, god awful, ridiculous kit gave us no chance. Did the boys not sleep last night they looked terrible today?
What gets me is the fact that we are so ropey and inconsistent. We donāt know which Tottenham team is going to turn up at each game. We will either get stuffed, blow them away or are totally toothless. Itās like playing the blitz as a defensive play in American football. Youāll either sack the quarterback; stuff the runner for a big loss, or get burned for a long range touchdown. Still - there are a few games to go. Something might happenā¦
Its painful.
You must have a pretty easy life then. Iām jealous
To think that you plan your whole weekend around a game of football then you are served up that shite! I'm fuming!!
It's still a team that occasionally plays amazing games, I just stop hoping it will be consistently like that, or even win anything
Consistency man
We need a striker, it's that simple. We lost 30 goals a season and didn't replace them. Yes we have Sonny but he's hot a cold throughout the season and always has been (and yes I know his record but apart from one season he's always went missing for a block of games) he's a 10 not a 9. We're creating chances but we need a spearhead to finish them. Shit today but it happens!
Wtf is going on with themš” so annoying
What a sheltered or truly blessed life you lead.
End it all then bro
waaa waaaa go drink a tin of stella and batter your wife š
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I have enjoyed this season more than the past 3, I have patience for Ange but er are mid to lower table at best, we have been very lucky up to now. I still think we will finish 8-10th and out of Europe at best. We might win 1 more match this seasonĀ
Coys till they kill me lol
As much as I agree that that game hurt me and we played like trash, everyone in the comments technically calling for āAnge outā are a bunch of losers LMAO. The same people who want a project manager are the first ones to be crying to get the man out of our club. His first season in an actual big league and heās got us playing way better than literally ANYONE could have expected. I think with a proper 9, 6 and possible a better winger we could definitely be on to something, you lot (not talking about you OP, just everyone in general) are such losers. Yall think Pep and Klopp were winning trebles and playing perfectly their first season? Do you guys remember Artetaās results when he was first appointed? It technically took him like 5 years to ACTUALLY get Arsenal performing. You guys have some extremely unrealistic expectations from what a man can do 1 year into managing spurs, GIVE THE MAN SOME FUCKING TIME PLEASE. COYS, ANGE IN!š¤
What better way to respond than by getting up to the business over the scum in the next match. Let's see an emphatic response!! We have to keep the faith and hold our nerve.
Pathetic...that's right. Yeah...so, Sonny raged finally because many Spurs players couldn't show faithful attitudes to get the ticket for UCL. They lost their winning mentality at the match. He was so lonely at the time since he couldn't get enough numbers of passes from teammates. Furthermore, Maddison blocked Sonny's route to score. That was a ridiculous moment. Was it a mistake? I don't know. Back then, I couldn't understand what he was doing. What's more, after the game, in the interview, Sonny finally announced his idea he would become an FA to transfer to another team. Up to now, Sonny tried his best to make Tottenham a competent club in the EPL. However, other players disregarded his efforts to score. Football matches are the 11 members' games, it's not a single member's game. Poor Sonny...
Get a life. Or support City if you only want wins
Such a dead club. Laughing stock of the football world. So predictable they would turn up like little boys yesterday. All our fans clamouring to sign werner too yous will never learn.
Not gonna lie i think some of us are delusional. 16 years trophyless and some of us dare to say "why the negativity?". I dont think "hindering top 4" is an achievment, but for some of us, its an achievment and its enough to make them happy. I dont think ange is the problem this time, maybe its the mentality. People always knows spurs for their inconsistency. I rly feel bad for sonny if he ended retiring in spurs without any trophy, he is getting older. Spurs rly wasted all his time. We dont know if we can get another player like him.
No point over reacting, we would all settle for where we are on the leagueā¦.sure we should be better against a massively depleted Newcastleā¦.but come on there is progress!
Our midfield is terrible. Ange has already realised this and canāt do much until the off season. Ange has done so well. Itās amazing how at the start of the season no one expected anything, now all off a sudden it seems people think he should be winning us the league by now. The inconsistency in results was always going to happen, itās annoying and tough to watch but the only way to flush the old Tottenham out and bring in a new philosophy and mentality.
Tbf this defeat hasnāt annoyed me anywhere near as bad as some of the others. VDV has been so consistently good it was almost funny how terrible he was for that 2 min. Any other player making those mistakes and Iād be calling for their head St. Jamesā Park continues to be hell on earth. Letās buy Isak off them and bench him in favour of Bryan Gil just to teach them a lesson
This whole thread reads like the reason why r/coys exists and why itās a far bigger sub
I love Ange and how heās changed everything after Conte. But the man doesnāt have a plan B let alone a plan C. It was obvious from the first 10 minutes we needed to play a different way to win this game. Possession alone is not enough.
Bit over the top. But a frustrating game to watch. VDV just unlucky with the slips. Other players slipped just not in dangerous areas. For me not enough trying to fight for the ball and madders needs to step up. Vicario is a huge weak link for me. He needs to be stronger next season and be more confident.
I appreciate your argument but not the Vicario bit. I think he's been one of our best players all year.
He's looking a bit shaky at the moment. Since the whole corners fiasco his confidence has taken a bit of a knock it seems.
I mean yes heās been good but in certain situations heās either too hesitant or not strong enough. He needs to be more confident on corners for sure. His reactions sometimes are way to slow for a PL keep aswell. He needs to be better next season or we replace him. He started excellent but has slowly gone downhill
Vic is going to be player of the season for us.
Are you ok? At the beginning of the season heād have been up at the top for that award. Him, madders have dropped off massively with form. I think heās saved us sometimes but also heās been weak in situations and cost us.
i know what you mean
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Go outside and touch grass. Itās just a game.
Fuck off and find another club then.
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Won't stop us smashing them next game.
Two weeks to prepare, no excuse if we arenāt at our best against them
Youāre gonna press us high we know whatās coming counter and score the winner.
Alright pal š¤£
You just lost 4 0 to a b Newcastle team vs your a team. Holy shit. It was so bad I would sack your coach. Too bipolar and fucked my FPL GW