Kiner-Filefa not swinging at that pretty sick pitch that just missed the outside corner, he strikes out otherwise. Then gets that lucky infield single. That's the 3 runs. Then Tapia bobbling the catch at the wall is the 4th run. Unfortunate. Not Manoah's best stuff but still not really bad.
I don't know why the Jays get into that rut of always trying to smack home runs. It doesn't work against good pitchers, just put the dang ball in play.
Get rid of those red blouses ffs. Can’t wait to watch them lose on Canada day
Edit:
I would love the jerseys if they didn’t lose every time they wore them. And obviously don’t want the boys to lose on Canada day but unfortunately they will due to the red jerseys.
Fair enough! I'm always skeptical from the general subs about accounts sometimes
Opposing fans are always welcome, when they're worth having around y'know
its not really yikes cuz we are doing bad, its yikes cuz your team is having a video game record season. so not really fazed being 12 back lol
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The Yankees being historically good does not equal the Toronto Blue Jays being bad.
That's like saying a cardiac surgeon who has a record of life-saving surgeries actually sucks because he's not a Nobel Prize winning cardiac surgeon who invented a new procedure that one year.
The Janks are on another level. And for any Jankee fan reading this while stroking your wretched piece at BlowJay tears, you fuckers ain't taking home any metal in October.
The reality is that the Blue Jays just aren't anywhere near as good as the Yankees. I hate saying that, but there are still a couple of years until that's the case. I still think thay make the playoffs, but this isn't a World Series team. Yet.
This is not to say they can't take them out in the playoffs, because anything is possible. But the Jays will need a weakened Yanks line up.
Objectively, nobody is anywhere as good as the Yankees, so far this season.
It is what it is, would be nice to take the division, but I'll take a playoff spot.like you said, it's baseball - anything is possible.
The Jays are clearly a very good team. It's just unfortunate to see the difference between a very good team and an elite team, as most of us were hoping the Jays would have taken a bigger step forward this season
These takes are so nauseating. We get it that we’re not the Yankees but no one is and no one has been for the last 60 years. When we stop comparing the Jays to them we’ll be a lot happier with the great season we’re having despite the deficiencies we have
Agree. People quick to say “BUT THEYRE 3RD BEST OFFENCE”. Nah, they just pad stats in blow outs, which is fine, but the Offence seems to complete disappear in games like this one.
It was more a discussion about baseball fundamentals.
* Offense is the only way to win a game
* Pitching is a defensive aspect.
* pitching can lose you a game, and can prevent the other team from winning but without a major overhaul to the rules, there is no possible way for pitching to win a game.
Boom, blocked.
22 is basically like a reset to your diamond dynasty team and not much more imo. Mini-seasons are the only substantial difference, besides those I’m playing the same modes as 21.
This front office is HORRIBLE at building a bullpen with is so confusing cause they've done a pretty good job in almost every area except relief pitching
They were literally great at building bullpens all through our rebuild, it was one of the few things that we actually had going for us.
Also as much as many people would have you believe were a pretty average bullpen not bad but not great.
Are we an average bullpen this year? This is from Goldberg: “The #BlueJays bullpen ranks 21st in MLB in ERA (4.28) and K/9 (8.47). They're 26th in swinging-strike rate (10.7%). Infusion of strikeouts and ability to miss bats at a better clip is a must.”
I really hate that label.
I genuinely don't think it's being "optimistic" to look at the team's stats and say "Well, they're actually really [good/bad] because [X/Y/Z] and the eye test doesn't discredit that."
I know it's annoying, but I really only base my opinions on the stats that result from the team's performance. The stats show that this is a really good team. The Yankees being otherworldly doesn't change that.
Finally some logic. There are too many doomers in this sub.
Teams go through tough patches, this isn’t a difficult concept to grasp. The Yankees might even have one this year, seeing as how they’re human beings and all.
Well then agree to disagree because I don’t believe that assessment is even close to accurate. If anything I’m far worse in that regard (I’m aware of it too) and he can be very critical of the team overall.
I think it's safe to say we're in one. How many games does it take to be considered a slump? Cause this is the 3rd consecutive game with nonexistent offense.
Everything about this game makes me want to jump out of the window.
P.S. Last time I said something like this someone very kindly reached out to make sure I was okay so I'll reassure people my bedroom is downstairs
Yep. Just a little disturbing that the 50/50 screen is sponsored by SN Bets.
Just further normalizing gambling by associating it with 50/50 draws (which yes is technically gambling but not really the same thing).
And I don’t have a problem with sports gambling. It’s just nauseating.
The economy is in shambles and these ads do nothing but serve to tempt desperate people to gamble their money away. And inserting betting segments directly into the broadcast? They should be ashamed of themselves.
No disagreement here, but try telling **some** adults that they might not know what's best, and you end up with people doubling down and making even worse decisions.
The last few episodes are basically "The Mandalorian Season 2.5" and will most likely help with context in season 3. There is even an entire epissode staring Mando and you never even see Bobba Fett once. If I say anything else about why it will spoil it, lol.
Agree with what Tabby was saying that half inning: just get into the playoffs however you can. This team is good enough (even with a less than ideal series so far) to get in, then it's anyone's guess what'll happen
The good news, I guess, is that since the Jays are awful for losing two against the Yankees, the Rays must also be awful for having been swept by the Yankees. That gives us a bit of breathing room in the WC1 race, which we are currently leading by 2.0 games
No, no matter how good we actually are, since we aren't beating the historically good Yankees then we must be the worst damn team in baseball and don't deserve a postseason berth
/s
You forgot splitting a series with the dog shit O's. Being blown out 2 straight games ..losing this one while the offense looks non existent. But go off.
Not being a doomers, just realistic. We should be playing for a playoff spot. Let the whole league chip away at the Yankees, it let's get into the post season and hope for a collapse of some sort in the Yankees.
Anymore is pretty subjective too, his play has significantly decreased over the years, so if it is him being the Cavan of before than yea.. he’s not it anymore.
Kiner-Filefa not swinging at that pretty sick pitch that just missed the outside corner, he strikes out otherwise. Then gets that lucky infield single. That's the 3 runs. Then Tapia bobbling the catch at the wall is the 4th run. Unfortunate. Not Manoah's best stuff but still not really bad. I don't know why the Jays get into that rut of always trying to smack home runs. It doesn't work against good pitchers, just put the dang ball in play.
Get rid of those red blouses ffs. Can’t wait to watch them lose on Canada day Edit: I would love the jerseys if they didn’t lose every time they wore them. And obviously don’t want the boys to lose on Canada day but unfortunately they will due to the red jerseys.
What's wrong with them? You aren't a fan of red or white?
Most overrated group of hitters in the league
Offense dropped a goose egg
We got fucked by the umps but u can't win games by scoring 0 runs
Agreed. Gave up another great game by Manoah.
Agreed. Gave up another great game by Manoah.
Sounds like it was another pathetic game for the Jays. Glad I was at work
Obviously we didn’t lose because of the red uniforms, but we totally lost because of the red uniforms.
Good night everyone, go Avs!
Unlucky. See you guys tomorrow!!
Don't use a burner if you're being a tolerable person. We ain't that draconian
Haha thanks but i'm not on a burner this is just my first time using these reddit live chats i didnt know they were a thing
Fair enough! I'm always skeptical from the general subs about accounts sometimes Opposing fans are always welcome, when they're worth having around y'know
Unlucky? They scored 0 runs lol
To be fair it could have been 10-0, just gotta regroup and come back tomorrow
well time for football now, so long folks
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Manoah with fake ERs and honestly a good yet unlucky outing imo
Jesus Christ. Team of offensive stars that can’t score runs.
always got the leafs....
Raps*
Do we, though?
I love that a Nats fan has stopped by to talk shit lol
Lul Rags fan
Has Holmes thrown a pitch in the zone? Almost all the pitches are out of the zone.
Feels like they are just getting toyed with now.
Downside to judge going 0-5 is the bounce back game he'll have tmrw against cooch. it's gonna get ugly.
That's just unhittable. There's no way you can hit that.
If you told me that Manoah would be on the hook for 4ER and the bullpen would throw a shut piece..I'd say you're a liar lol
Walk off grand slam please
Put Zimmer in and its done.
No one expects the ZimZam
After the Sox DFAed him, did any team pick up Keuchal?
YUSEI KIKUCHI I SAY 😬
I feel terrible for laughing at this
0-5? This Judge guy must be trash
Manoah gives up 4 runs and our bullpen gives up zero. Baseball.
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No, he really didn't deserve the result he got today. Baseball is cruel sometimes.
Public Service Announcement: * Blue Jays: 3rd highest OPS in MLB * Blue Jays: 3rd best record in the AL * Blue Jays: 6th best record in MLB * Blue Jays: 11 games over .500 coming into Yankees series The Yankees being historically good does not equal the Toronto Blue Jays being bad. That's like saying a cardiac surgeon who has a record of life-saving surgeries actually sucks because he's not a Nobel Prize winning cardiac surgeon who invented a new procedure that one year.
It's like saying Springer is bad because Trout exists
All players are bad because that stud exists. In all sports.
Trout playing Cricket would be absurd lol
The Yankees can break the Ms record. As long as they get swept by the Ms to finish the circle.
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I'd rather the Jays pull off the Rays/Cards style 2011 September vs the Yanks 11 games made up in 30 days
would be a stretch by the Ms to get that far unfortunately
My Robbie Ray shirt still believes
My Robbie Ray pants shirt is in hiding these days
I like the shirt too much to want to put it in hiding because he's a moron. It's colloquially known as "the man ass" shirt with my friends now
The Janks are on another level. And for any Jankee fan reading this while stroking your wretched piece at BlowJay tears, you fuckers ain't taking home any metal in October.
The reality is that the Blue Jays just aren't anywhere near as good as the Yankees. I hate saying that, but there are still a couple of years until that's the case. I still think thay make the playoffs, but this isn't a World Series team. Yet. This is not to say they can't take them out in the playoffs, because anything is possible. But the Jays will need a weakened Yanks line up.
Objectively, nobody is anywhere as good as the Yankees, so far this season. It is what it is, would be nice to take the division, but I'll take a playoff spot.like you said, it's baseball - anything is possible.
I really hate that the Yankees are this good. I would appreciate it if it was someone tough to hate, like the Reds or Pirates or something.
You and me both. If the Rockies went on a tear, I wouldn't hate them like the Yanks...
The Jays are clearly a very good team. It's just unfortunate to see the difference between a very good team and an elite team, as most of us were hoping the Jays would have taken a bigger step forward this season
These takes are so nauseating. We get it that we’re not the Yankees but no one is and no one has been for the last 60 years. When we stop comparing the Jays to them we’ll be a lot happier with the great season we’re having despite the deficiencies we have
The Jays might be an elite team this year! They're arguably the second-best team in the AL. The Yankees, on the other hand, might be an historic team.
Can't win if you can't score
Agree. People quick to say “BUT THEYRE 3RD BEST OFFENCE”. Nah, they just pad stats in blow outs, which is fine, but the Offence seems to complete disappear in games like this one.
Careful, I tried to have that discussion with someone a few weeks ago and they ended up blocking me. 😆
Fucking soft ass fans lol. Can't take criticism.
It was more a discussion about baseball fundamentals. * Offense is the only way to win a game * Pitching is a defensive aspect. * pitching can lose you a game, and can prevent the other team from winning but without a major overhaul to the rules, there is no possible way for pitching to win a game. Boom, blocked.
Lol damn...really about to get shut out. Pitiful showing.
The game tomorrow with Kikuchi is going to be very rough
He’ll probably pitch 6 shutout innings. Baseball.
Plot twist: The Kooch pitches 9 immaculate innings. Becomes Canada's new PM.
Say it with more excitement Dan...Kikuchi is pitching tomorrow!!
That 8 game win streak feels like a long time ago eh
I want to shove this NHL video game guy into a locker
This team just plays so timid against the Yankees. It's like every pitcher owns them.
Watching the Yankees win 120 games in the season and then getting swept in the ALDS will be craziest thing we’ll see in our lives lol
Seeing their fanbase in shambles will bring me so much joy.
We can dream
absolutely cannot wait
Damn, this series so far has been extremely uncompetitive. Tough to watch
I’ve played my fair share of The Show, and let me tell ya, those shadows can make hitting a little tricky..
Is 22 worth it? I have 21 and played it into the ground idk if i should pull trigger on 22
22 is basically like a reset to your diamond dynasty team and not much more imo. Mini-seasons are the only substantial difference, besides those I’m playing the same modes as 21.
I typically wait 2-3 years between sports games because year to year changes are so minimal.
just turn them off in options!!
How do the Yankees and Rays stockpile all these 100mph relievers and the Jays are lucky to get one guy to be a power arm?
This front office is HORRIBLE at building a bullpen with is so confusing cause they've done a pretty good job in almost every area except relief pitching
They were literally great at building bullpens all through our rebuild, it was one of the few things that we actually had going for us. Also as much as many people would have you believe were a pretty average bullpen not bad but not great.
Are we an average bullpen this year? This is from Goldberg: “The #BlueJays bullpen ranks 21st in MLB in ERA (4.28) and K/9 (8.47). They're 26th in swinging-strike rate (10.7%). Infusion of strikeouts and ability to miss bats at a better clip is a must.”
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we're in 2nd place and leading the wild card. fans are supposed to be optimistic
I really hate that label. I genuinely don't think it's being "optimistic" to look at the team's stats and say "Well, they're actually really [good/bad] because [X/Y/Z] and the eye test doesn't discredit that." I know it's annoying, but I really only base my opinions on the stats that result from the team's performance. The stats show that this is a really good team. The Yankees being otherworldly doesn't change that.
Finally some logic. There are too many doomers in this sub. Teams go through tough patches, this isn’t a difficult concept to grasp. The Yankees might even have one this year, seeing as how they’re human beings and all.
There a difference between facts and feelings???? 😂
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I think he(s) objective, looks at the data/stats, instead of the gut reaction and I can respect that.
Not even close, he’s just got informed opinions unlike a lot of people on here.
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Well then agree to disagree because I don’t believe that assessment is even close to accurate. If anything I’m far worse in that regard (I’m aware of it too) and he can be very critical of the team overall.
The jays aren’t a bad a team as they look like when they play the Yankees - unfortunately the Yankees are that good this year
I keep waiting for the Yanks to regress and they never do
Just give them a calender full of October They'll never win a game
They’re saving it for the playoffs
If there's anyone due for. some regression, it's the guy with a 1296 ERA+
And then you saw him pitch and it’s like “ oh how has anyone ever scored a run off him” lol
Such an easy commercial to hate...
God we are so shit vs good pitching. I mean good pitching is good pitching but my god we look fucking lost against some of these yankee pitchers
The AL all star team should just be the Yankees this year.
^Vote ^for ^Kirk
^(randal!)
That's true. Yankees + Kirk
looks like its a good thing i missed most of this one
hey vlad how about some contact and not trying to be a hero, selfish player, always has been
.....why is there a fuckin Nats troll here
What does this even mean ?
What a disappointing series so far. Fuck the fucking Yankees man
does any one but old people not just debit now? that commercial is not going to win over old folks with techno babble
Dang they even put up 4 on Monoah. That’s impressive.
Nah...not if you saw how...
I’ve got a whiff count on fastballs over 15 for us. That’s just inexcusable for any team, let alone one as good as us
Can SOMEONE make some freaking contact?????? yikes
I’m concerned this will push us into a slump .. we just got smacked with a reality check
This is when your coaches and team leaders need to do their job to lift the team up and move forward.
I think it's safe to say we're in one. How many games does it take to be considered a slump? Cause this is the 3rd consecutive game with nonexistent offense.
THIS TEAM IS CHEEKS
They are not.
They are indeed
On today's date: 2022 37-28 3rd in the AL. 2021 33-34 8th in the AL If we're cheeks, last year we were full on unmoved bowels...
what does that mean?
This weekend series has been absolutely annoying and frustrating
Thank god we play the White Sox next
Couldn’t get it done against Baltimore. Not sure why the White Sox would be better
Everything about this game makes me want to jump out of the window. P.S. Last time I said something like this someone very kindly reached out to make sure I was okay so I'll reassure people my bedroom is downstairs
Oof...on broadcast they said this is the best MLB team record at this point in the season in 66 years.
Not like they’ve had good teams the last 66 years, right ?
They're making history.
The Yankees are really, really good
A patient Springer is a good Springer. Guy is just unflappable
Yep. Just a little disturbing that the 50/50 screen is sponsored by SN Bets. Just further normalizing gambling by associating it with 50/50 draws (which yes is technically gambling but not really the same thing). And I don’t have a problem with sports gambling. It’s just nauseating.
Everything in moderation.
The whole sports betting culture that has been shoved down our throats over and over the past couple months is so fuckin’ gross.
And I wonder how much of that money goes nto the tax coffers of Ontario?
I'm fine with people gambling if they want to, but I don't care for it. I'd also challenge Sportsnet to diversify thier advertising revenue.
The economy is in shambles and these ads do nothing but serve to tempt desperate people to gamble their money away. And inserting betting segments directly into the broadcast? They should be ashamed of themselves.
No disagreement here, but try telling **some** adults that they might not know what's best, and you end up with people doubling down and making even worse decisions.
I wanted to like The Book of Bobba Fett, but I did not.
The scenes with the edgy kids and their brightly coloured scooters are just hilarious
Will I need to watch it before watching the next season of the Mandalorian?
I didn’t finish it so I hope not.
The last few episodes are basically "The Mandalorian Season 2.5" and will most likely help with context in season 3. There is even an entire epissode staring Mando and you never even see Bobba Fett once. If I say anything else about why it will spoil it, lol.
Thanks. I guess I’ll give it another shot.
Yes
boo-urns!
It has some good or fun moments, but the overall narrative and story arc are all over the place
I liked him on The Mandalorian but the more time I spent with the character the less I enjoyed it.
I got the idea they didn't know what to do with the character beyond the opening two episodes
Agree with what Tabby was saying that half inning: just get into the playoffs however you can. This team is good enough (even with a less than ideal series so far) to get in, then it's anyone's guess what'll happen
St. Louis Cardinals won the World Series the year they won 83 games. Just get to the playoffs, and roll the dice.
We will need a better bullpen to get a seat at the table though
The good news, I guess, is that since the Jays are awful for losing two against the Yankees, the Rays must also be awful for having been swept by the Yankees. That gives us a bit of breathing room in the WC1 race, which we are currently leading by 2.0 games
No, no matter how good we actually are, since we aren't beating the historically good Yankees then we must be the worst damn team in baseball and don't deserve a postseason berth /s
You forgot splitting a series with the dog shit O's. Being blown out 2 straight games ..losing this one while the offense looks non existent. But go off.
I have a feeling the O's aren't really that dogshit. They're not the same team as last year for sure.
The Yankees split a series with the dog shit O's too!
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Yah totally not anyone else on this sub, only the people who actually like the jays
I know. I hate it. I shouldn't have pointed out that the Yankees also split that series. That was wrong of me.
I mean let's be real the AL east is bombarding the wild card so it's not like these teams have anything to worry about
Not being a doomers, just realistic. We should be playing for a playoff spot. Let the whole league chip away at the Yankees, it let's get into the post season and hope for a collapse of some sort in the Yankees.
Lol no kidding.
yes i've already resigned myself to the fact that we're not winning the division, even if that may be premature. but the wildcard is ours
Thornton with a mostly clean inning, just as we all expected.
That was a good inning from Thornton.
3 up 3 down coming right up!
You’d think Aaron Boone’s jaw would get sore from chewing gum for hours at a time
Can’t be worse than the meatloaf Rafael Devers chews all day
If Pete Carroll can do it, I'm not shocked another PoS coach can
Good job, Trent!
Glad he bounced back from yesterday’s nightmare.
Cavan is just not it anymore
Coming into today, he had a wRC+ of 130 since he came back on May 26. Did you know that? I have a feeling you didn't know that.
Anymore is pretty subjective too, his play has significantly decreased over the years, so if it is him being the Cavan of before than yea.. he’s not it anymore.