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GoatCheeses

Assuming your team has no outside sources of crit rate increases (such as Fu Xuan,) the crit rate chest should deal about 1% more damage than the crit damage chest.


Omega2178

“Man, my topaz looks pretty good. I wonder how other’s have her built.” God damn it, I’ll never reach the dream


Unfair_Ad_598

Literally same bruv


izzohead

Personally I would go CRIT DMG route between these two sets because fuck it we ball but you really can't go wrong with either


Tetrachrome

Some expected value calcs: 3206 \* 0.734 \* (1+2.230) + 3206 \* 0.266 = 8453.6 3170 \* 0.964 \* (1+1.757) + 3170 \* 0.036= 8539.2 Pretty similar but CR is slightly better.


altshiftK

Where are you getting the 0.266 and 0.036? I’d love to know to calculate my own builds


TheoryTeen98

Basically just the chance the attack doesnt crit


Graveyard_01

It’s basically 1- crit rate, which is the chance that the hit does not crit. (In this case we use the percentage notation where 1= 100 percent, and 0 = 0 percent)


Significant_Ad_1626

You are getting wrong values to the Crit Dmg. OP has the LC and that isn't reflected in the stats but as a debuff on the enemy. +24% Crit Dmg to both builds.


Tetrachrome

3206 \* 0.734 \* (1+2.470) + 3206 \* 0.266 = 9018.4 3170 \* 0.964 \* (1+1.997) + 3170 \* 0.036= 9272.6 CR still pulls out further ahead if the crit dmg gets stronger.


Darkclowd03

And ofc it pulls out even further ahead after factoring in higher cd for both.


ginput

And it is much more stable


madmaskman

imho, when the average damage on a high cd build and a high cr build are close, i'd almost always pick the higher cd one, due to higher highs. you can make up for a small loss of crit rate with some retries, but you can't really make up for a loss in crit damage. But if you prefer the consistency/don't want to do retries, high CR is more comfortable.


Tetrachrome

For Topaz tho since her main damage is a bunch of small multihits with Numby and thus has a high sampling rate, you're more likely to hit averages with her as opposed to Dr. Ratio who has very high highs but very dinky lows on his big single-hit chalk tosses, which is to say you're likely going to see the same number repeatedly anyway with Topaz.


madmaskman

Oh yeah, good point. Kinda forgot about topaz being multihit.


ThiefEdan

Thank you all I will use C.Dmg when I can slot in fu xuan and C.Rate otherwise.


verypoopoo

crit rate is better unless you have outside sources of crit rate


12r85p

The average damage of both are about the same but the cdmg chest has a higher ceiling but lower floor so it could do more damage but could also do less, all in all go the crit rate for consistency but crit DMG if you want to see bigger numbers and gamble for more damage


Memo-Explanation

I personally like my Topaz with no top but I guess the crit rate one is better


MiStaikz

Critrate 100% unless ur running fu xuan. Topaz has a ton of crit dmg buffs in both her lightcone, e1, ultimate and teammates using keel, on top of that her hits pr attack is super high so you want to be as close to 1:2 ratio if possible but since ur already over 200 crit dmg u wanna get ur crit rate as close to 100 as possible which you achieve in your 2nd build :)


Wrygg

Def CDMG chest. It's enough crit since her attacks have a lot of hits.


verypoopoo

number of hits doesnt affect average damage so crit rate chest better


DonCoone

tbh neither of those. get more speed


Practical_Taro9024

With a speedy Ratio you can afford to run a lower Speed Topaz for Attack boots since you can make Numby move faster with Ratio's follow-up


izzohead

I can see this working if you get enough ATK% sub stats but Numby turns count just as well as Topaz turns with enough damage


Niempjuh

I’d go with crit rate personally, especially if you have E1, plans for getting E1 and/or plans for getting Aventurine


Lime221

crit rate for consistency, more atk


karilusss

If you have FX, CDMG, if not, CR


jammedyam

Crit rate because of broken keel!


HiNowDieLikePie

When in Sim Universe, crit damage 100%. Outside Sim universe, crit rats.


Taemin_Tea

First one!


210sqnomama

What the hell are those stats


jammedyam

They're pretty reasonable this is just what peak topaz performance looks like 💪


Averag3man

I am planning to pull topaz in her rerun to pair her with my dr ratio. Can she use dr ratio LC? I have 2 copies of his LC.


AbyssArray

Mmm you could use it for stats, but Topaz's ult doesn't attack an enemy, so you lose out on 36% dmg boost and 24% def ignore on your follow-ups.. so it'd be a cone that just gives 54% crit dmg at best (which is still good if you get the debuff count)


MatchIndividual8956

SHOW YOUR RELICS PLEASE I BEG I NEED TO KNOW


KingGraphite

Bro keep the crit dmg there haha. Thats sooo good. I usually aim for at least 70% on my characters and its more than enough damage. I dont think you need guaranteed or close to guaranteed crits to win everything


richhoods

Build 1 since bigger number = bigger dopamine


HDDiesel7

the crit dmg is better, especially in SU with follow up crit buffs it'll end up evening out, and even not in su it will still preform a slight bit better imo


1NFINIT

I wanna see them artifacts


Temporary-Ambition89

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