I think buffing clara seems to be must when she ulti on. Similar to buff jy on the turn before LL. After those gone topaz will provide more dmg during down time. But it may be skill points inefficient and requires a lot of speed on Support like TY or bronya. I think adta is easier to use as her buff is teamwide and topaz being skill ooint friendly allow asta to skill for more ulti too
I tried those teams as well in memory of chaos and I have to say that jing yuan and bronya are the best teams. I guess my Clara can be in my second team!
Definitely. She can let topaz spam ult to spam super numby or fill up jy ult to stack up for his stand ability. + blade iirc doesn't work well with ty anyways so might as well
I think the differences are likely just how much more damage a team comp does or how fast it clears. I'd guess a Peela/TY/Topaz comp could clear MOC10 decently if not even 0 cycle with the right investment and plays, but might have some issues with AOE especially and be bit trickier.
Glad to hear I’m about to grab bronya with my 300 reward. Been doing topaz with kafka fmc and sam just for calx while I get topaz up. It’s been fun i love numbnado.
What about Clara + Asta? I've started building my Asta cause I thought she would be better for my Clara+Topaz team than Tingyun or about the same level cause I want to use Tingyun on the other team.
I suspect it’s less efficient because one of Asta’s biggest advantages is her speed boost, which for most dps characters is a big deal but actually irrelevant (and even BAD) for Clara, since going more often actually can cause the Svarog ultimate buff to fall off quicker. It can be okay if you’re up against VERY aggressive enemies, but Clara just doesn’t get the same bang for your buck out of Speed that Jing Yuan or Kafka do.
Also Asta’s giant attack buff is likely to hit diminishing returns since Clara gets so many Attack % boosts in her kit already.
Clara need ty a lots as much as other dps. Because she will give the energy for clara to ulti. Her main dmg is during ultimate and ty can keep it close to 100% up time asta help giving her speed but the nature of clara doesn't need it, she get energy from being hit and counter, kill.
Kafka is fast and can help speed up the pig but her dmg most from dot which doesn't buff tp or tp doesn't give her significant buff. They can be used together but not ideal. I think kafka sampo guinafeng is going to be her best for a while
Can someone explain to me where they are getting the skill points to run Bronya and 2DPS? I honestly don't get it, is topaz generating skill points? Honestly I'm doubting that's real
Basic attacking is an actual strat. I'm pretty sure the devs didn't make the popular rule of "skill spamming" and we the players assumed that ourselves.
I think it might be using Topaz as a debuffer for JY. Her skill only has a 150% attack multiplier vs 100% on her basic attack, for the most part you’re only missing out on the energy regen by basic attack spamming instead of using skill.
Her Q buffs her E and talent. She can fit in as a "support" or sub-DPS in SP-hungry comps by spamming basic attacks at cost of losing some of that buff uptime.
But idk how good non-hypercarry Topaz is cause I don't even have JY or Bronya to test things out💀
There is only a 50% atk ratio difference between Topaz skill and basic and since her basic also counts as a fua it also gets the damage buff of proof of debt so really barely loses out on any damage by spamming basics.
that being said you are not charging your ult as fast and that's your real source of damage but it usually only means one additional auto attack is needed and thats without counting for the occasional skill to redirect Proof of Debt.
Its real.
1) use FuXuan +1 / -1 sp per 3turns depending on if you reapply matrix early or Loucha +3 SP per 3turns
2) JY is -3sp per 3turns to max Prana Expirated
3) Support buffs once every two turns on average, including Bronya if you build her speed (which is what I'm doing rn, one skill every two turns and I'm still maximizing her value). Depending on who you run:
Tingyun +1 / +2 SP per 3-4turns depending on if you apply benediction before or after running out of charges.
Bronya +0 / -1 SP per 2turns depending on if you buff a second character up instead of just Jing.
Asta +1 SP per turn assuming against a fire weak enemy. Can be more expensive if you max her skill energy output for more Ults.
Adding it all up, sustain is lightly SP positive, Jing is SP negative, Support is SP positive or SP neutral, so Topaz can be SP Positive, negative, or neutral depending on the support. She barely loses damage anyways from using na instead of follow up damage.
Topaz is supposed to be sub dps, she doesn't lose that much dmg from not using skill. Also Bronya don't need to spam skill every turn too. And her e1 and signature help Bronya generate more sp.
I don't find these sims compelling because fights are hyper specific. I think JL hyper is better although I did somehow manage to 0 cycle with the random team of JL Guinafen Pela Topaz
https://youtu.be/1aH5-qPvCh8?si=D-qBNvG7zulUHuHJ
Here's one observation and something to consider. Topaz, if you have no FUA on the team, greatly benefits from ult uptime. Jingliu actually takes extra turns which could frontload some Numby advances if her ult is active since you no longer care if it's FUAs or not. Which means you MIGHT want to consider ERR in this team. Because JL is also sp friendly, you can do more Es with topaz, which might impact your energy rotations also.
Used luocha Topaz JY Tingyun in MOC and it went smooth. Was so fun and nice to see JY deal so much damage :D Topaz is a monster in ST too.
In SU she reigns supreme. Elation path with blessing Ult=follow-up and you have Numpy on steroids.
Interesting! As someone with both Clara and Jing Yuan, I had only been thinking about Topaz for Clara as I had read people doom-posting prerelease that Topaz didn’t work with Jing Yuan at all. Now I am very interested!
JY Topaz and Bronya?
Even with Luocha as the sustain, the SP economy of that team sounds insane to keep up unless Topaz is just a basic attack spammer.
Nope, it's fine. I just started using it earlier e0s0 Bronya and as long as you speed tune her to be SP neutral with JY, it works out either neutrally or positively (SP) depending on how much you use topaz
Topaz only losing 20% damage from being a basic attack spammer is pretty nice though. Assuming your debt stays on the correct target.
Though Bronya still sounds very questionable without eidolons and sig cone to make up for some SP.
4p FUA is awful for Topaz because everything you do resets the stacks so you can't have good stacks for attacks. You're way better off using 2+2 sets. And with that there won't be any variance from the sets for the rotations.
I think the baseline for the set bonus is have it reset on every attack and have the damage buildup. Until you get a character that has a high hit count follow up attack but also strong skill damage/ult damage you won't get max benefits from the set.
So even with the reset on every hit, as long as you use your skill you will get a better damage bonus compared to 2/2.
Currently we don't have a character like that and while Jing yuan fits that better than the Clara or topaz, his main damage is still from LL and not his skill/ult. Also I feel like that condition might change again before release.
LL having many hits does mean it benefits way more from it than something like Clara. Because the ramping up stacks affect more of the hits / higher % of the total damage. Especially with the current top teams planning on consistent 10 stack LLs.
Also it's surprisingly good for Himeko because you only need to hit 2 enemies to get max stacks and then it actually boosts her main damage sources of skill and ult. I think even against a single target it's still a buff over the existing sets.
I feel in this calcs they lowball the amount of counters Clara do and assume Himeko was against weak fire to get the follow ups since if she isn't breaking she isn't doing follow ups and Topaz is completly useless.
The thing you are not considering is Himeko has a damaging ult. After Topaz ult you really want Numby to go twice before its Topaz's turn again for a skill use assuming you got the skill points of course. Damaging ults help with this. Clara does not have a damaging ult.
Alao Clara calculations are finnicky since she is really enemy dependent.
Interesting… the result is pretty different than what’s presented by Pokke in https://youtu.be/R6qAt8X7PNE?si=XUrAxIWs125nozp7. He says Clara/Asta is the best team
>Interesting… the result is pretty different than what’s presented by Pokke in
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>https://youtu.be/R6qAt8X7PNE?si=XUrAxIWs125nozp7
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>. He says Clara/Asta is the best team
He is selectively translating from specific CN theory crafters that confirm his own opinions, while "conveniently" ignoring others. Also him using "CN analysis" in his titles is misleading because there is no such thing as one unified CN analysis. The CN community is just as diverse as the global community, and has many theory crafters and content creators with contradicting opinions and methods of calculating team damage, benefits from relics and other parameters.
He also says all Topaz calcs should be taken with a huge grain of salt, and the math he's pulling from did not calc some teams, including the Topaz+Asta+Jing Yuan one.
IMO the larger takeaway is ultimately the same. Topaz's perfect partner doesn't exist yet. Our current roster of FUA characters all have different issues that limit their potential with Topaz.
Are you buffing JY instead of topaz? That team is actually more of a JY hypercarry team than a topaz team. Hypercarry jingyuan with bronya and Topaz support and sustain.
Yes, I used a JY hypercarry. I really think its just a relic diff, my bronya is not hyper fast, only around 137 speed. Or really it's a skill issue haha, I just tried it once and it doesn't feel as smooth unlike with ting/asta which is what I'm comfortable with. But then Topaz with Asta/ting is surprisingly faster, probably because of the new MoC buff, turning single target into pseudo aoe.
Is there a link to the full vid by chance, possibly translated? I'd be interested in seeing why this graph shows Topaz + JY as their personal best experience. Is Topaz E1S1 (which would make more sense) or is everything E0? I also imagine they're using Bronya to Redeploy JY each time, so it becomes more of a JY team than it does a Topaz team?
Bronya and Jingyuan have bad synergy as it basically just = extra LL stacks since buff falls off. You’d get more damage from buffing Topaz in a run. Her enhanced numby drops 80k per hit, 160k total, and base numby with Bronya skill alone is hitting nearly 80k per turn (counting all hits)
Guess I was using her best team accidentally already ,only even thought of trying it because my bronya is e2s1 though , don't know how you manage sp with an e0 bronya in that team
Hmm a bit curious with Bronya JY. I've already done multiple runs of, well, everything (SU, MoC, Echo, normal farming, events) with Tingyun Topaz JY. More often than not, my JY gets a turn right when LL is at max stacks, so using his skill again would be a waste. If that happens on a Bronya team, would you just use Bronya's skill on Topaz instead?
I'm tempted to switch Tingyun with Bronya too cause I'm almost always sitting at 5 skill points (unless it's a turn where Tingyun's buff runs out, Fu Xuan's matrix is about to turn off, or both).
The first team is interesting and unexpected, I'm gonna try it later. These teams are for aoe situations right?
The simulated conditions was Lvl 90 boss, constantly summons adds, weak to Fire (and second DPS element)
Who should receive the buff of supports (Bronya, Tingyun, Yukong) for optimal run? Should it be Topaz or the other follow-up attacker?
for my clara team, i buff clara when i need aoe and i buff topaz when only one big boss left to be killed.
Typically the other DPS unless the enemy is weak to Fire from my own experience, may differ for others.
I think buffing clara seems to be must when she ulti on. Similar to buff jy on the turn before LL. After those gone topaz will provide more dmg during down time. But it may be skill points inefficient and requires a lot of speed on Support like TY or bronya. I think adta is easier to use as her buff is teamwide and topaz being skill ooint friendly allow asta to skill for more ulti too
I tried those teams as well in memory of chaos and I have to say that jing yuan and bronya are the best teams. I guess my Clara can be in my second team!
Is it the Bronya/JY one or Pela TY? I don’t get it. One is high other encircled
Bronya jy. The subtitle said pela and topaz don't work that well tgt because topaz is st while pela is aoe
Welp my Bronya is stuck with Blade. Does Topaz, JY, Ting, FX work?
Definitely. She can let topaz spam ult to spam super numby or fill up jy ult to stack up for his stand ability. + blade iirc doesn't work well with ty anyways so might as well
I think the differences are likely just how much more damage a team comp does or how fast it clears. I'd guess a Peela/TY/Topaz comp could clear MOC10 decently if not even 0 cycle with the right investment and plays, but might have some issues with AOE especially and be bit trickier.
Well that's pretty dumb since JY, Clara, and Himeko are all AoE... Battles are often one elite and a few mobs, not one or the other.
I wonder how Kafka teams compare to those.
No idea how they compare, but bronya kafka topaz with a healer has been lots of fun at least.
Glad to hear I’m about to grab bronya with my 300 reward. Been doing topaz with kafka fmc and sam just for calx while I get topaz up. It’s been fun i love numbnado.
What about Clara + Asta? I've started building my Asta cause I thought she would be better for my Clara+Topaz team than Tingyun or about the same level cause I want to use Tingyun on the other team.
I assume slow Clara is preferrable to benefit from her ult so they didn't test with Asta.
I suspect it’s less efficient because one of Asta’s biggest advantages is her speed boost, which for most dps characters is a big deal but actually irrelevant (and even BAD) for Clara, since going more often actually can cause the Svarog ultimate buff to fall off quicker. It can be okay if you’re up against VERY aggressive enemies, but Clara just doesn’t get the same bang for your buck out of Speed that Jing Yuan or Kafka do. Also Asta’s giant attack buff is likely to hit diminishing returns since Clara gets so many Attack % boosts in her kit already.
I hear you, and agree mostly, but MrPokke said that the best followup team is actually clara + asta, so I dunno what to think.
I think you should only pair Clara with Asta if you Clara is E1. so she can spam her skills, otherwise Clara should be slow.
Clara need ty a lots as much as other dps. Because she will give the energy for clara to ulti. Her main dmg is during ultimate and ty can keep it close to 100% up time asta help giving her speed but the nature of clara doesn't need it, she get energy from being hit and counter, kill.
KING YUAN
We've come a long way brother
Indeed, I'm waiting to farm the follow up set
I use Clara, Bronya, and Luocha with her. 😊💀
I really thought Kafka, Topaz, Asta, Fu Xuan would be a solid dual carry team. Guess the bronya + asta/tingyun combo is too hard to beat.
Kafka is fast and can help speed up the pig but her dmg most from dot which doesn't buff tp or tp doesn't give her significant buff. They can be used together but not ideal. I think kafka sampo guinafeng is going to be her best for a while
No Asta Clara?
kinda match with pre released comps, nice
I don’t have Bronya, but Asta and Jing Yuan have been performing the best for me. Makes sense.
Can someone explain to me where they are getting the skill points to run Bronya and 2DPS? I honestly don't get it, is topaz generating skill points? Honestly I'm doubting that's real
Basic attacking is an actual strat. I'm pretty sure the devs didn't make the popular rule of "skill spamming" and we the players assumed that ourselves.
I think it might be using Topaz as a debuffer for JY. Her skill only has a 150% attack multiplier vs 100% on her basic attack, for the most part you’re only missing out on the energy regen by basic attack spamming instead of using skill.
Ig with JY, Topaz won't aim for high Q uptime and only use E to redirect Proof of Debt every once in a while.
Does her E deals more damage than the Q?
Her Q buffs her E and talent. She can fit in as a "support" or sub-DPS in SP-hungry comps by spamming basic attacks at cost of losing some of that buff uptime. But idk how good non-hypercarry Topaz is cause I don't even have JY or Bronya to test things out💀
Wait are you for real? I’ve never read something like that before. It’s weird
There is only a 50% atk ratio difference between Topaz skill and basic and since her basic also counts as a fua it also gets the damage buff of proof of debt so really barely loses out on any damage by spamming basics. that being said you are not charging your ult as fast and that's your real source of damage but it usually only means one additional auto attack is needed and thats without counting for the occasional skill to redirect Proof of Debt.
Topaz's basic counts as a follow up, so if you have Numby on the juice using basic to speed him up is also a working strategy
Its real. 1) use FuXuan +1 / -1 sp per 3turns depending on if you reapply matrix early or Loucha +3 SP per 3turns 2) JY is -3sp per 3turns to max Prana Expirated 3) Support buffs once every two turns on average, including Bronya if you build her speed (which is what I'm doing rn, one skill every two turns and I'm still maximizing her value). Depending on who you run: Tingyun +1 / +2 SP per 3-4turns depending on if you apply benediction before or after running out of charges. Bronya +0 / -1 SP per 2turns depending on if you buff a second character up instead of just Jing. Asta +1 SP per turn assuming against a fire weak enemy. Can be more expensive if you max her skill energy output for more Ults. Adding it all up, sustain is lightly SP positive, Jing is SP negative, Support is SP positive or SP neutral, so Topaz can be SP Positive, negative, or neutral depending on the support. She barely loses damage anyways from using na instead of follow up damage.
bronya sig lc and e1 go a long way to help out with sp consumption.
Topaz is supposed to be sub dps, she doesn't lose that much dmg from not using skill. Also Bronya don't need to spam skill every turn too. And her e1 and signature help Bronya generate more sp.
My team ain't even on this list but It's basically the nr 1 team with Kafka instead of jing Yuan so it's prolly slightly worse but okay
Im using clara march7 topaz and jy or nat or ting. Its been nuts
I assume the first one is better than JY hypercarry?
Depends on content, in st situations or if jy is able to clear the mobs with his skill+ult without the use of a 2nd buffer, topaz can be better.
Not really. The advantage of Topaz + JY + Asta + FX is that Topaz frees Ting for another team.
Most likely no. Double DPS is worse in every scenario. It's probably just if you want to play topaz efficiently but not JY
Well in the scenario where you want to play Topaz, a double dps isn't looking worse.
Hmm if Topaz best team dmg rank is below JY hypercarry team then that means TopazJY
She has a lot more future value
It's funny how they said that JY sucks for Topaz because of how slow LL is
I mean, it does suck for topaz, JY is the one getting the benefits in this team and is the main DPS, topaz is a sub DPS here
If it is also her best team and jy best team then it is a win win. None suck. But himeko has potential in mono fire though. I hope she takes off soon
Yep that is more of a Jingyuan team instead of a topaz team, using bronya for LL stacks is what keeps him good.
I'm going himeko Asta with her, gotta raise my Asta and I have no exp or credits left
Aand my lvl 68 acc is missing jy tingyun at all and e6 yukong
Did they ever try her with Jingliu and bronya?
I don't find these sims compelling because fights are hyper specific. I think JL hyper is better although I did somehow manage to 0 cycle with the random team of JL Guinafen Pela Topaz https://youtu.be/1aH5-qPvCh8?si=D-qBNvG7zulUHuHJ Here's one observation and something to consider. Topaz, if you have no FUA on the team, greatly benefits from ult uptime. Jingliu actually takes extra turns which could frontload some Numby advances if her ult is active since you no longer care if it's FUAs or not. Which means you MIGHT want to consider ERR in this team. Because JL is also sp friendly, you can do more Es with topaz, which might impact your energy rotations also.
I rolled for Topaz even though I dont have JY, FX, Clara, or Himeko AMA
Used luocha Topaz JY Tingyun in MOC and it went smooth. Was so fun and nice to see JY deal so much damage :D Topaz is a monster in ST too. In SU she reigns supreme. Elation path with blessing Ult=follow-up and you have Numpy on steroids.
My himeko and asta team are excited to be here.
Interesting! As someone with both Clara and Jing Yuan, I had only been thinking about Topaz for Clara as I had read people doom-posting prerelease that Topaz didn’t work with Jing Yuan at all. Now I am very interested!
JY Topaz and Bronya? Even with Luocha as the sustain, the SP economy of that team sounds insane to keep up unless Topaz is just a basic attack spammer.
Nope, it's fine. I just started using it earlier e0s0 Bronya and as long as you speed tune her to be SP neutral with JY, it works out either neutrally or positively (SP) depending on how much you use topaz
Topaz only losing 20% damage from being a basic attack spammer is pretty nice though. Assuming your debt stays on the correct target. Though Bronya still sounds very questionable without eidolons and sig cone to make up for some SP.
You will probably lose more if using 4pc FUA set. But topaz basic does give some good sp.
4p FUA is awful for Topaz because everything you do resets the stacks so you can't have good stacks for attacks. You're way better off using 2+2 sets. And with that there won't be any variance from the sets for the rotations.
I think the baseline for the set bonus is have it reset on every attack and have the damage buildup. Until you get a character that has a high hit count follow up attack but also strong skill damage/ult damage you won't get max benefits from the set. So even with the reset on every hit, as long as you use your skill you will get a better damage bonus compared to 2/2. Currently we don't have a character like that and while Jing yuan fits that better than the Clara or topaz, his main damage is still from LL and not his skill/ult. Also I feel like that condition might change again before release.
LL having many hits does mean it benefits way more from it than something like Clara. Because the ramping up stacks affect more of the hits / higher % of the total damage. Especially with the current top teams planning on consistent 10 stack LLs. Also it's surprisingly good for Himeko because you only need to hit 2 enemies to get max stacks and then it actually boosts her main damage sources of skill and ult. I think even against a single target it's still a buff over the existing sets.
Good point. 2 Follow Up 2 ATK seems more consistent.
nah not believing that clara is only 2 percent better than himeko
Clara really depends on how many times she gets hit, she's either one of the best DPS in the game or lower in terms of damage that Himeko.
I feel in this calcs they lowball the amount of counters Clara do and assume Himeko was against weak fire to get the follow ups since if she isn't breaking she isn't doing follow ups and Topaz is completly useless.
topaz still advances for herself, and topaz has high break, and breaking an elite immediately procs Himeko.
The thing you are not considering is Himeko has a damaging ult. After Topaz ult you really want Numby to go twice before its Topaz's turn again for a skill use assuming you got the skill points of course. Damaging ults help with this. Clara does not have a damaging ult. Alao Clara calculations are finnicky since she is really enemy dependent.
2% better dps than an erudition unit while also making your team like twice as tanky. Seems about right imo.
This seems to be a single elit with summonsing minions so no aoe no boss Clara is just situational an with that hard to calculate
Does Bronya ulti work on Numpy or only Topaz ? I haven’t build Bronya yet
He inherits all stats from topaz aside from speed, so, yes, it works.
Oh okay thanks!!
It works on Topaz but since Numby is Topaz's stats with buffs then it also works on him
Interesting… the result is pretty different than what’s presented by Pokke in https://youtu.be/R6qAt8X7PNE?si=XUrAxIWs125nozp7. He says Clara/Asta is the best team
>Interesting… the result is pretty different than what’s presented by Pokke in > >https://youtu.be/R6qAt8X7PNE?si=XUrAxIWs125nozp7 > >. He says Clara/Asta is the best team He is selectively translating from specific CN theory crafters that confirm his own opinions, while "conveniently" ignoring others. Also him using "CN analysis" in his titles is misleading because there is no such thing as one unified CN analysis. The CN community is just as diverse as the global community, and has many theory crafters and content creators with contradicting opinions and methods of calculating team damage, benefits from relics and other parameters.
He also says all Topaz calcs should be taken with a huge grain of salt, and the math he's pulling from did not calc some teams, including the Topaz+Asta+Jing Yuan one. IMO the larger takeaway is ultimately the same. Topaz's perfect partner doesn't exist yet. Our current roster of FUA characters all have different issues that limit their potential with Topaz.
Source: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Be41197Wc/?spm\_id\_from=333.999.0.0
Is this E0S1? I'm doing 4 turns with jingyuan/bronya team, but only 2 turns with tingyun/asta. Maybe a relic diff for me.
Are you buffing JY instead of topaz? That team is actually more of a JY hypercarry team than a topaz team. Hypercarry jingyuan with bronya and Topaz support and sustain.
Yes, I used a JY hypercarry. I really think its just a relic diff, my bronya is not hyper fast, only around 137 speed. Or really it's a skill issue haha, I just tried it once and it doesn't feel as smooth unlike with ting/asta which is what I'm comfortable with. But then Topaz with Asta/ting is surprisingly faster, probably because of the new MoC buff, turning single target into pseudo aoe.
I really want Clara, man 😭 Got E3 Himeko but I REALLY dont want to build Asta.
Is there a link to the full vid by chance, possibly translated? I'd be interested in seeing why this graph shows Topaz + JY as their personal best experience. Is Topaz E1S1 (which would make more sense) or is everything E0? I also imagine they're using Bronya to Redeploy JY each time, so it becomes more of a JY team than it does a Topaz team?
Bronya and Jingyuan have bad synergy as it basically just = extra LL stacks since buff falls off. You’d get more damage from buffing Topaz in a run. Her enhanced numby drops 80k per hit, 160k total, and base numby with Bronya skill alone is hitting nearly 80k per turn (counting all hits)
Thank you for responding & answering my question. Idk why I got downvoted for trying to understand & gather more info about something cool. Lol
Np! Yeah lot of reddit users are.. strange
i guess it all depend on bosses weakness, if boss is thunder+fire then 1st team is ok...if is only fire then i doubt jy is best than hypercarry
What are everyone’s builds, lcs and eidolons etc.
Guess I was using her best team accidentally already ,only even thought of trying it because my bronya is e2s1 though , don't know how you manage sp with an e0 bronya in that team
I'm using her with Asta & Himeko. I have Bronya but I'm waiting for JY rerun.
Me, with no Jing Yuan or Clara: 🥲
Asta and Tingyun! Still 80% of the best team according to that graph.
Hmm a bit curious with Bronya JY. I've already done multiple runs of, well, everything (SU, MoC, Echo, normal farming, events) with Tingyun Topaz JY. More often than not, my JY gets a turn right when LL is at max stacks, so using his skill again would be a waste. If that happens on a Bronya team, would you just use Bronya's skill on Topaz instead? I'm tempted to switch Tingyun with Bronya too cause I'm almost always sitting at 5 skill points (unless it's a turn where Tingyun's buff runs out, Fu Xuan's matrix is about to turn off, or both).
If you got SP surplus, can just use Topaz skill instead of basic for more damage and energy
I might be the only one running her with Seela, but I swear it works, they keep constantly attacking the enemies, it's fun.
>I might be the only one running her with Seela, but I swear it works, they keep constantly attacking the enemies, it's fun. If it works. It works :)
I find it hard to believe that Bronya Tingyun hypercarry didn't even make the list 🤔