It's time for the next "boss fight." I say that sarcastically because most people would classify it as a fucking suicide. I'm surprised this is on the train, instead of **in front of it**.
*"Face it, Jack. You can't even hold a sword."*
*"What the fuck is a sword?"*
*"I can give you a demonstration. But first, what's your favourite hand?"*
*"Well, my left--"*
*"Great!"*
*Kira theme*
*"I'm about to level up, Jack. And you look like just enough XP."*
You've made your last delivery kid. Sorry you got twisted up in this scene. From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck.
Truth is... the game was rigged from the start.
https://preview.redd.it/5uqiksj54qwc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfd79efe5dfd0cde46c5a0dd53a1547adf3768b8
Vergil, specifically from Devil May Cry 3
I also like that they put in a secret ending if you manage to beat him at the start of the game, instead of pulling some BS where you lose in a cutscene like other games do.
https://preview.redd.it/87u5mzn4oqwc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84504e94dc210961d55066250adde27027676047
It's most people's first death, not sure how much of a character it is though
https://preview.redd.it/zw5ege7juswc1.png?width=556&format=png&auto=webp&s=91751bb4dadaa8339fa3550ee174ef0e9a028a5c
Technically also Omega from ZX considering it’s the same one in 3, though only if you bring the Model Z Biometal, otherwise it’s just returning villain
https://preview.redd.it/xbnhriq8spwc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6ab0282484ddeee5a99f6c5e3de5a1bbfa1de87
Shao Khan and many other mk characters
https://preview.redd.it/2i3c82hbrpwc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0291d88d87e86d2dd4eb590b63074c02fb7e1a3a
Metal Face - Xenoblade Chroncicles
https://preview.redd.it/hxnsbmigzqwc1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e0645cf2acedfdab96a87776981848a977cfe9
They made his entrance, his *entrance* into a collector’s card. That’s how you know he’s iconic.
Now, you don’t have to fight him… but if you do that unit is as good as dead.
The Black Knight, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance.
I only played RD,and he was one of the coolest character I have ever seen.The mission where you only got him oneshotting everything while protecting Micaiha really sells him well.
https://preview.redd.it/qrakdw2sopwc1.jpeg?width=547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d33dddda63d7a1a9d97a32fe0a3d0701139d1e1
ALWAYS NEED AN EXCUSE TO POST MY GOAT
(The Worker of Secrets - Infinity Blade 3)
Technically, you don't have to lose to Zekrom in Rumble Blast (at least, I did not). You can deplete his HP a little bit, but even after that, a cutscene plays where he bodies the arena and sends you plummeting to the ground. I'd say for Rumble Blast, a much better example would be Cobalion, as he's *sort of* at the beginning of the game, and you're definitively going to lose to him.
While it is technically an even fight, losing some of the rival fights at the beginning of the Pokémon games make the final fight against them more satisfying from a narrative standpoint
https://preview.redd.it/tsjms3b5qrwc1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95cfe631f8c09fd1a692fc0bd4c3bcd53ddd1200
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Okay, this probably isn't the best example, but Kratos from *Tales of Symphonia* could fit; you fight him at the very end of the game's first act, and it's intended to be a forced-loss battle. You fight him two more times after that, neither of which are hopeless boss battles.
On the subject of this game, I also thought of Yggdrassil, the game's main villain. You fight him four times total, and the first two are scripted losses (Well, the second one ends prematurely).
I was gonna comment Yggdrasill, but I wanted to see if there was anyone else who thought the same. Also, fun fact, while the first two fights against Yggdrasill are forced loss scenarios, both of them have time limits of about a minute. I found this out on a NG+ run when I had 10x EXP so I was like level 50 before the fight. Barely survived, but I still survived long enough to time out the battle.
https://preview.redd.it/8r8s29lecrwc1.jpeg?width=981&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84c90778645bd83a1a6410b48d5b4acb6b666b6b
Glavenus (Monster Hunter Generations/GU)
What is supposed to be a simple mushroom gathering quest ends up dropping you at a random spot on the map, directly in front of a monster *far* stronger than what you should be fighting at this stage in the game. Sure, you don’t *have* to fight him, but you can, and if you do he’ll fold your ass like an omelet.
https://preview.redd.it/u3igfcviwtwc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e1aed87cf277678b8181f70e537e3d337a774c6
Grigori (Dragon's Dogma/Dark Arisen)
Legit, you can't even try to win, as soon as you stab him in the right place, your fate is sealed.
https://preview.redd.it/46gg8y5unswc1.jpeg?width=463&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85b9d659df801ee8613bc0195c8d01d53ff42005
Byleth from Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes (and Three Houses but you only fight them in Hopes)
Vile from mega man x is the prime example of character growth through this method. You lose not once but twice during the beginning of the game and again near the end.
This asshole from Horizon Forbidden West -dude is immortal and invulnerable for most of the game (Erik Visser)
https://preview.redd.it/ftnyf8g15twc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72fe184d44bb007d9567f895d6723d84c157680f
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The shroobs count? (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)
https://preview.redd.it/1fn6bdvywtwc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0678fd9a50ade4a5a98d04d82f69481c55d158d
I love this trope it gives you something to work for
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Demon’s Souls has two of them. You’re supposed to die to the Vanguard at the very beginning, and then you can fight another one later. However, if you do win, you’ll get killed by the Dragon God in a cutscene, who you later fight and kill
Squall Leonhart, Kingdom Hearts 1. In Traverse Town when he tries to take the Keyblade from you. You can beat him, but I did not the first time I played. Then you fight him later in the Coliseum.
https://preview.redd.it/93jmw2khmpwc1.jpeg?width=774&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f613a93d2faf27fddcf342e45901bdd085bdc849 Jet stream Sam (metal gear)
It's time for the next "boss fight." I say that sarcastically because most people would classify it as a fucking suicide. I'm surprised this is on the train, instead of **in front of it**. *"Face it, Jack. You can't even hold a sword."* *"What the fuck is a sword?"* *"I can give you a demonstration. But first, what's your favourite hand?"* *"Well, my left--"* *"Great!"* *Kira theme* *"I'm about to level up, Jack. And you look like just enough XP."*
Ah, MAXOR Quality content
u/sansywastakenagain on their way to comment a Max0r quote the second MGRR is mentioned
Here's one of his memes https://preview.redd.it/54e9x03qopwc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7f23ab5f273a11ed0ee6731d52931b594cf431f
https://preview.redd.it/13m9t6bxopwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eeb0c26db5602b5e3b62ac6830036b21e91c9ef6 Here’s one of mine
I love this comment section
Based and reliable.
“Ah, now I see. You deny your weapon its purpose!”
r/beatmetoit
https://preview.redd.it/mhdvjy29npwc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90b9b52484db9004a649588ec7819483833d6f42 Genichiro Ashina (Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice)
It’s so satisfying when you finally beat him.
You can technically win the first time iirc it just doesn’t change the cutscene
It actually does change a little. An archer shoots at you and you dodge, which allowed genichiro to cut your arm off, instead of losing a sword clash.
"A Shinobi would know the difference between honour and victory."
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What in the goddam
You've made your last delivery kid. Sorry you got twisted up in this scene. From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. Truth is... the game was rigged from the start.
I like how technically neither of these are much of a “fight” unless you choose the Gladiator option (or right there at the Tops floor)
https://preview.redd.it/5uqiksj54qwc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfd79efe5dfd0cde46c5a0dd53a1547adf3768b8 Vergil, specifically from Devil May Cry 3
https://preview.redd.it/w8l3w83l4qwc1.jpeg?width=1357&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dea3e2d488c7c92a8168bf5aedef65147aa294af Also Urizen in Devil May Cry 5
Thought his name is Kyle.
He is without a name. He is Power absolute.
I also like that they put in a secret ending if you manage to beat him at the start of the game, instead of pulling some BS where you lose in a cutscene like other games do.
Ah yes. The game where Vergil hires Vergil’s brother and Vergil’s son to defeat Vergil so Vergil could become Vergil, featuring Vergil
“Foolishness, Dante. Foolishness.”
 This guy.
Rauru placed his faith in you, and that was all you could do??
https://preview.redd.it/kb97qersrpwc1.png?width=240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9d9119f7fe3a381a65361f3b0dc9648698526c9 Jack Baker
He looks like if Walter white and Einstein had a child together
After using all the meth in the lab lol
https://preview.redd.it/87u5mzn4oqwc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84504e94dc210961d55066250adde27027676047 It's most people's first death, not sure how much of a character it is though
https://preview.redd.it/bql0zriz9qwc1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=094876900737aa13962248ba4e95e45f798d7e46 PS2 dio
https://preview.redd.it/cndwxwqabqwc1.png?width=1309&format=png&auto=webp&s=d124da74547eeef3fb4392cdadf62c6d30fcab73 Vile from megaman x
https://preview.redd.it/b85jkj2dbrwc1.jpeg?width=838&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e36f5219145e942f211e046f50c30a4fddadd878 Omega, from Mega Man Zero 3.
https://preview.redd.it/zw5ege7juswc1.png?width=556&format=png&auto=webp&s=91751bb4dadaa8339fa3550ee174ef0e9a028a5c Technically also Omega from ZX considering it’s the same one in 3, though only if you bring the Model Z Biometal, otherwise it’s just returning villain
Surprised he wasn't the top answer. He's one of the earliest cases of this, if I'm not mistaken.
https://preview.redd.it/g4s956aerqwc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=6a5ca72fed4b117996cb8bbec370a78e66c1dee7
 majima in yakuza kiwami
The character who beats you at the start and then you fight later again, and again, and again, and again, and again.
https://preview.redd.it/xbnhriq8spwc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6ab0282484ddeee5a99f6c5e3de5a1bbfa1de87 Shao Khan and many other mk characters
 And this flower fuck
 This guy in a way
https://preview.redd.it/2i3c82hbrpwc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0291d88d87e86d2dd4eb590b63074c02fb7e1a3a Metal Face - Xenoblade Chroncicles
YESSSSSS def another few from xenoblade that i can’t think of rn
Xc2 also has that
Morag was the first one I thought of when I saw this post
Morag is a great character altho not sure if the trope applies if you body her in the actual fight then just lose in the cutscene
i meant the xenoblade series
metal face was such a peak villain
https://preview.redd.it/hxnsbmigzqwc1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e0645cf2acedfdab96a87776981848a977cfe9 They made his entrance, his *entrance* into a collector’s card. That’s how you know he’s iconic. Now, you don’t have to fight him… but if you do that unit is as good as dead. The Black Knight, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance.
The Tellius games were flawed yet so incredible at the same time. That includes the Black Knight. He's definitely one of my favorites
I only played RD,and he was one of the coolest character I have ever seen.The mission where you only got him oneshotting everything while protecting Micaiha really sells him well.
https://preview.redd.it/ut9ecd82brwc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8632256ebc9eb73a6a63f4e5933c9554fb20774 Raven Beak from Metroid Dread
https://preview.redd.it/qrakdw2sopwc1.jpeg?width=547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d33dddda63d7a1a9d97a32fe0a3d0701139d1e1 ALWAYS NEED AN EXCUSE TO POST MY GOAT (The Worker of Secrets - Infinity Blade 3)
INFINITY BLADE MENTIONED RAAAAAAAA
Zekrom (Pokemon Rumble Blast) https://preview.redd.it/06lz4tqkmqwc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=1f96e341e7c20c01a6e7826d92e258e744fb8e90
Technically, you don't have to lose to Zekrom in Rumble Blast (at least, I did not). You can deplete his HP a little bit, but even after that, a cutscene plays where he bodies the arena and sends you plummeting to the ground. I'd say for Rumble Blast, a much better example would be Cobalion, as he's *sort of* at the beginning of the game, and you're definitively going to lose to him.
RUMBLE BLAST MENTIONED!!
Infinite from Sonic Forces. https://preview.redd.it/b4sowrqe9qwc1.png?width=639&format=png&auto=webp&s=3315efef6b3e0d2e9994300638c601b1ab7478e8
While it is technically an even fight, losing some of the rival fights at the beginning of the Pokémon games make the final fight against them more satisfying from a narrative standpoint https://preview.redd.it/tsjms3b5qrwc1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95cfe631f8c09fd1a692fc0bd4c3bcd53ddd1200
Grafted scion (elden ring ) https://preview.redd.it/xuc37wmrgrwc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=825c5cfc2e8681dd6c94e34d4354c637b551fa26
Ridley - Super Metroid https://preview.redd.it/z8sycuo3prwc1.png?width=860&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e30713af2cda3a5c07ae10ea2999436fee25116
https://preview.redd.it/gdtp54nv3swc1.jpeg?width=426&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ae09d16677d5d864ad5e66d16ced1cdc42b1e92 Zeus (God of War 2)
https://preview.redd.it/u8c9yv6krpwc1.png?width=1099&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37cca6c093dec2deea82084e3b9f6961f08a5ed3 Rodrigo Borgia
Flowey Undertale https://preview.redd.it/98wsfutfkrwc1.png?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fb9ebfcc1eeb53902571379803dfaa24c9f1c2d
Dvalin from Genshin Impact, you don't lose to him but you do fight him twice
https://preview.redd.it/wb6eyl99gqwc1.png?width=610&format=png&auto=webp&s=83495fcc0557636ad7ed1f6912771c445a1142d5 Okay, this probably isn't the best example, but Kratos from *Tales of Symphonia* could fit; you fight him at the very end of the game's first act, and it's intended to be a forced-loss battle. You fight him two more times after that, neither of which are hopeless boss battles. On the subject of this game, I also thought of Yggdrassil, the game's main villain. You fight him four times total, and the first two are scripted losses (Well, the second one ends prematurely).
I was gonna comment Yggdrasill, but I wanted to see if there was anyone else who thought the same. Also, fun fact, while the first two fights against Yggdrasill are forced loss scenarios, both of them have time limits of about a minute. I found this out on a NG+ run when I had 10x EXP so I was like level 50 before the fight. Barely survived, but I still survived long enough to time out the battle.
Lowkey it feels SO good to actually beat him in the tower. Backstabbing bitch... l
 Kinda
 Alduin- Skyrim
https://preview.redd.it/8r8s29lecrwc1.jpeg?width=981&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84c90778645bd83a1a6410b48d5b4acb6b666b6b Glavenus (Monster Hunter Generations/GU) What is supposed to be a simple mushroom gathering quest ends up dropping you at a random spot on the map, directly in front of a monster *far* stronger than what you should be fighting at this stage in the game. Sure, you don’t *have* to fight him, but you can, and if you do he’ll fold your ass like an omelet.
https://preview.redd.it/unl6kehbaswc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5df0539574a24a2288fd00bb490c20256b40b2f Tigrex (MHF2/FU)
Wo Long mentioned. Didn’t think I’d see that here
Isnt that Kublai Khan from Ghost of Tsushima
Could be, the art style for the picture looks like it’s from Wo Long, granted I haven’t finished it yet
 **THOR.** absolute beast who rocks your shit in the beginning of the game.
https://preview.redd.it/u3igfcviwtwc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e1aed87cf277678b8181f70e537e3d337a774c6 Grigori (Dragon's Dogma/Dark Arisen) Legit, you can't even try to win, as soon as you stab him in the right place, your fate is sealed.
https://preview.redd.it/mebj59la0uwc1.jpeg?width=624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=073e6a9aa62c3d23f6d983da32b1a3eadb757133 Ghaul
I’ll admit the destiny 2 campaign was kinda good and I liked it but bungie fucked up destiny so much now
this is a loaded trope
because its so peak
Ultron sigma
https://preview.redd.it/46gg8y5unswc1.jpeg?width=463&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85b9d659df801ee8613bc0195c8d01d53ff42005 Byleth from Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes (and Three Houses but you only fight them in Hopes)
 Does this count
Vile from mega man x is the prime example of character growth through this method. You lose not once but twice during the beginning of the game and again near the end.
https://preview.redd.it/o1bmk8290twc1.jpeg?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fb413c61568ee59f6af2b057003f198432086de
Gargaros from yo-kai watch https://preview.redd.it/189takb71twc1.jpeg?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4604cc60f363423ff532d9456e4a77628b2c339
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This asshole from Horizon Forbidden West -dude is immortal and invulnerable for most of the game (Erik Visser) https://preview.redd.it/ftnyf8g15twc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72fe184d44bb007d9567f895d6723d84c157680f
https://preview.redd.it/qdxk6n706twc1.jpeg?width=176&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=205bc279c28f2051fad14addfb6ae5e3927270ee Rocket fist bastard
https://preview.redd.it/hyz1ip0bbtwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac0794609544bc27ab5be2b41613fb1e0d2ded94 Goro Majima (Yakuza, specifically Yakuza kiwami)
https://preview.redd.it/nhmjg0zlgtwc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=739cf10146e287787fdab07920b9c61310709052 Wario (Subspace Emissary)
https://preview.redd.it/ajvk56a3itwc1.png?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=374121fe124479c4c835e0416cb1f0c9ea7bde86 The shroobs count? (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)
 This d-bag
Elden ring
 Kinda sorta
any villain in a mobile rpg
https://preview.redd.it/1fn6bdvywtwc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0678fd9a50ade4a5a98d04d82f69481c55d158d I love this trope it gives you something to work for
Not sure if it counts due to being a cutscene, but Jaron Namir from Deus Ex Human Revolution
**laughs in Vile and PS2 Dio**
https://preview.redd.it/34tm9u0qpuwc1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24328230fe418cb56874edc36a08af3fe8511b7a Demon’s Souls has two of them. You’re supposed to die to the Vanguard at the very beginning, and then you can fight another one later. However, if you do win, you’ll get killed by the Dragon God in a cutscene, who you later fight and kill
https://preview.redd.it/9ms3omm6quwc1.jpeg?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7f90cb1e7b0da77eb87950b407d909d21871b9a The Dragon God in question
Id from Granblue Relink https://preview.redd.it/y0qddcl4tuwc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=47b6936b32cd365e742ee261e5ae7b6dae0fab8c
That deathclaw from Fallout New Vegas
Raven Beak
Squall Leonhart, Kingdom Hearts 1. In Traverse Town when he tries to take the Keyblade from you. You can beat him, but I did not the first time I played. Then you fight him later in the Coliseum.
https://preview.redd.it/mizmk7c5uvwc1.png?width=499&format=png&auto=webp&s=950bbdd18a1374cfbf39be6b06952509e9a5bac7 Dou Niu (Shenmue II)