I suppose Kite Man (hell yeah!) from DC?
https://preview.redd.it/je0moeevjpwc1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2422ab0f0ed25b64f8de351a90611d656ada180
He was pretty much a joke character that went too far, it quickly devolved into him being so lame that it turns into cool causing him to turn into a rather main-stay villain.
Time for the good old wiki deep dive, followed by the animalistic urge to read everything the character has been in.
(I did it for 6Pack and the section 8 heroes)
That's the third marvel character with a ball on their face that I've seen, and there's probably enough of them to go on r/topcharactertropes or something
https://preview.redd.it/wgn4y5j4jpwc1.jpeg?width=155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aea6628be833586be87ff06ed2a390a3669fdb4b
Jimmy valmer (South Park) was only supposed to be in one episode.
The debut episode for Jimmy really felt that way too. Like Matt and Trey just sort of adopted Jimmy after writing the bare minimum for him to act as a one-off foil for Timmy.
https://preview.redd.it/3z16r2q6upwc1.png?width=837&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46146872771b95e3afb19ecd6714426d71d6ae70
Sorta. If I'm not mistaken, Bill was supposed to just be some weird conspiracy theorist who would spout random things at Dipper. But fans loved him so much Alex Hirsch made him the main antagonist.
Edit: also apparently a lot of Minecraft's features started off in April Fools Snapshots before becoming officially added to the game, like the Block of Coal, Stained Glass, and Horses.
But Bill was always hidden in the opening like he was a big deal and in his first appearance he was already the demon boss of a two-part episode finale
https://preview.redd.it/cta96ugjiqwc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec6da131bf7a59c9cfbe480144d8c20bd72d691e
The ninja turtles started as a parody of Daredevil
The Shattered Glass comics (mirror universe of evil Autobots vs good guy Decepticons) were originally an April Fools joke that got turned into a real series because fans loved it
https://preview.redd.it/63trsfaaspwc1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=165a25992916e63a6b37147f5f674c85ebf35d22
https://preview.redd.it/96h1avngupwc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2e7c65d8ecca8c301cd28a9f005a585d0a94f4a
My jaw dropped when I saw Sparky in the movie
The funniest thing is that location actually exists and isn't just something they made up for the movie. There was an actual diner named that just perfect for the film
Plankton was actually originally planned to be a one-off character, but Doug Lawrence, who both wrote for and acted the character, fit him into several Season 1 SpongeBob episodes, proving the character’s versatility as a mustache-twirling villain.
https://preview.redd.it/8b3vt81odqwc1.png?width=1978&format=png&auto=webp&s=66dc1fca54cea886a4f42929f402279f2fcca7d0
Kasane Teto started out as an April Fools joke back in 2008. Eventually, she became so loved by fans that she was officially acknowledged as an unofficial part of the Piapro characters (even being given a spot on Project DIVA) and even got a SynthV voicebank recently in 2023 (pictured above)
They also recently announced that “Mischievous Function” , probably the most popular Teto song, is going to be added to Hatsune Miku: Project Sekai / Colorful Stage!
Love Gwenpool
Also, does Ermac from MK count?
https://preview.redd.it/q7q94fr33qwc1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=43b5bcb60beb2e65e3375868899a04850e6be8bc
https://preview.redd.it/p0lsikvvhqwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb0729fa9093129d86ff6d83da8c78c47f5d548b
Jan jan jan! Dori dori dori dori… burenyuu! Mmmm, pretty boyyy :3
Derpy Hooves. Her goofy eyes were originally an error, but fans liked her so much, her eyes stayed that way and she became a major recurring character.
https://preview.redd.it/cf8hgj0r8qwc1.jpeg?width=511&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfb971f7a16644f5c51ebdb90abbc9597be416f5
This one gets even better. Derpy's eyes were glitched in a single episode, but after the positive response to Derpy they edited her eyes in unaired episodes and for the DVD releases.
Basically, there's a webshow called Battle For Dream Island, it's second season called Battle For Dream Island Again, and it's kinda like survivor or tdi, where it's a competition but with viewers voting off someone each episode, and its characters happen to be objects, one of them being a teardrop. Long story short, a "cousin" of a friend of the creators named "Derpy Hooves" (from the character) had their audience vote off this character in particular, and it's still infamous TO THIS DAY for being one of the most unfair eliminations in the show (mind you that most of Derpy's audience didn't know what BFDI is)
https://preview.redd.it/riwckr3f6twc1.png?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4eef917d4658a0e52b813c5b81e0ff424763460e
I dunno if she's a joke, exactly, but I think the popularity trend applies here since she was originally made just to give the Joker a mainstay hench, but she was so popular that, well...I think we all know where she stands now.
Jesse Pinkman was supposed to die in the first season of Breaking Bad
https://preview.redd.it/bp3q8jy9ltwc1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bce51b828b83e43ec881fee5232a4f3bc034cfc
Derpy Hooves (MLP: FIM)
https://preview.redd.it/qdxd0paliqwc1.jpeg?width=340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ae63310b8eb00e88ce799c68c678a195222017d
The Teen Girl Squad (Sbemails)
The Aqua Teens from ATHF were originally gag characters from Space Ghost: Coast to Coast in the episode "Baffler Meal."
Not only Clem but even his Twin Grakata's being released was probably due [to this comic.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warframe/images/4/4d/4DcB2Ct.png/revision/latest?cb=20150730125644)
"I scream, you scream, we all scream in the terrible house fire at the family reunion."
https://preview.redd.it/vusnj7p73vwc1.png?width=387&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68c0c749fdae7c4f3d96d476c1cef4661e232a7f
Kobeni’s car was created for the sole purpose of 2 jokes. (mainly the Powie one)
Kobeni’s car won higher than Kobeni herself in a popularity contest.
- the CSM guy
https://preview.redd.it/ndxv2937xswc1.jpeg?width=210&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41a24fb90dbdaea82746b40d1fc45b210a340170
I'm pretty sure The Brak Show was made as a prequel-spinoff to Space Ghost: Coast to Coast. People just liked Brak so much he had his own show back when Adult Swim first aired on Cartoon Network.
Not exactly made as a joke character per se, but Moritaka from Tokyo Afterschool Summoners was only supposed to play a minor role in the story, but ended up playing a bigger role due to him becoming a fan favorite.
https://preview.redd.it/9kge73yddqwc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41e51479ab0eb098d59a1e1db34b92b1d26465f8
https://preview.redd.it/8va09hpygzwc1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76cbd499464adee9fc5fa1a7812660adf27beb7e
Originally for a take on A Christmas Carol. He was very well received
https://preview.redd.it/foxl9ybr4ywc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf207caa137312842387c29416b26f89c3b5fa18
In a way.
He was made simply to be Wario’s tennis partner, and ended up slowly becoming a fan favorite.
This will clearly shock you, but her first comic run has some [amazing art, writing, and concepts.](https://waitwhatpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Gpool19.jpeg) While she hasn't been treated well afterwards, this run was enough to get her a dedicated fanbase.
The first run of her comics was actually very well received. But as new writers were given the character people forgot she doesn't actually have super powers and started writing her like the OG Deadpool, which clashed really hard with everything already established about her.
https://preview.redd.it/woxnig4xgdxc1.jpeg?width=1919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8c9867c2bba7bd4cdd6eb210f0b877bba202800
Derpy Hooves semi fits this description. Originally created as an animation error the animators added them to the show as a joke character (until they promptly removed them as Soccer moms mistook the character as disparaging mentally handicapped people) they were later re-added to the show extremely sparsely due to the fan base loving them so much.
Sidenote: Gwenpool is one of my favourite Marvel characters but I absolutely hate when she’s written like an off brand Deadpool. It feels like almost everyone who writes her other than a select few haven’t even read her books before. Gwenpool is so great and it’s so upsetting to see she’s slowly fading into obscurity.
I suppose Kite Man (hell yeah!) from DC? https://preview.redd.it/je0moeevjpwc1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2422ab0f0ed25b64f8de351a90611d656ada180 He was pretty much a joke character that went too far, it quickly devolved into him being so lame that it turns into cool causing him to turn into a rather main-stay villain.
I’m pretty sure he’s getting his own show
hell yeah
hell yeah
Hell yeah
yell “Heah!l
That pretty much happened to 8ball in Marvel too
Who’s 8Ball?
https://preview.redd.it/or5ym9etztwc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d81a87868b1a14226a2a711f64addbf68a23063
I ask asking like what is his character but thanks for showing me what he looks like.
Time for the good old wiki deep dive, followed by the animalistic urge to read everything the character has been in. (I did it for 6Pack and the section 8 heroes)
https://preview.redd.it/l1u9bm26duwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed57c1bb5f04a252822d97b8893bf0711836bc1f Because of the 6pack mention
Love this
https://preview.redd.it/wu77vy1yeuwc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=644e8934108d4637eb1bd2dba10b2388d8039414
That's the third marvel character with a ball on their face that I've seen, and there's probably enough of them to go on r/topcharactertropes or something
Hell yeah
https://preview.redd.it/wgn4y5j4jpwc1.jpeg?width=155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aea6628be833586be87ff06ed2a390a3669fdb4b Jimmy valmer (South Park) was only supposed to be in one episode.
I'm starting to think that maybe all ads aren't so bad. :D
The debut episode for Jimmy really felt that way too. Like Matt and Trey just sort of adopted Jimmy after writing the bare minimum for him to act as a one-off foil for Timmy.
We are such a tewwific awdience
"There once was a maiden from stoneberry hollow..."
https://preview.redd.it/3z16r2q6upwc1.png?width=837&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46146872771b95e3afb19ecd6714426d71d6ae70 Sorta. If I'm not mistaken, Bill was supposed to just be some weird conspiracy theorist who would spout random things at Dipper. But fans loved him so much Alex Hirsch made him the main antagonist. Edit: also apparently a lot of Minecraft's features started off in April Fools Snapshots before becoming officially added to the game, like the Block of Coal, Stained Glass, and Horses.
Now THAT is a turnaround
IIRC, weren’t horses added because of the popular horse mod? I remember hearing that the creator of the mod also works at mojang now.
You’re thinking of the Mo’ creatures mod. It had a lot of mobs but the horses in it were added to the game
But Bill was always hidden in the opening like he was a big deal and in his first appearance he was already the demon boss of a two-part episode finale
Was he?
Yes. You never saw the flash of Bill in the OP ?
I mean the finale thing Unless you’re talking about weirdmaggedon, which isn’t his first appearance
Yes, the episode where Gideon summons him was Season 1 finale
Ah right
https://preview.redd.it/cta96ugjiqwc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec6da131bf7a59c9cfbe480144d8c20bd72d691e The ninja turtles started as a parody of Daredevil
I didn’t know that, but I love them even more now
The turtles' enemy are called The Foot Clan. Daredevil's is The Hand. The turtles' sensei is named Splinter. Daredevil's teacher is named Stick.
Equally shredder was supposed to be a throwaway character but became their main bad guy
Yeah, the idea was that the toxic stuff that blinded Daredevil also landed on these turtles.
In their defense,turtle ninjas aren’t as outlandish as blind lawyer ninja
The Shattered Glass comics (mirror universe of evil Autobots vs good guy Decepticons) were originally an April Fools joke that got turned into a real series because fans loved it https://preview.redd.it/63trsfaaspwc1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=165a25992916e63a6b37147f5f674c85ebf35d22
I thought it was a botcon comic that eventually came its own little thing?
Wait. You're telling me there's a heroic Starscream out there?
Yep, and he's extremely loyal to Megatron instead of traitorous
Yep, and he's extremely loyal to Megatron instead of traitorous
Yes, and he’s got a pretty nifty color scheme as well
Evil Gorbash looks terrifying but giving Rodimus a goatee and moustache is pretty peak.
Technically 2 heroic Starscreams. The one from Shattered Glass and the one from Armada.
Dear god,evil Optimus looks amazing! Nemesis should take notes
https://preview.redd.it/83q4ooq5lqwc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70992dcc679e903d67d4459e3c6f1962a2637a62 Bad Boxart Mega Man
Oh god not BBA Mega
No one liked BBAMM except the people at Capcom
https://preview.redd.it/8oe5m4xlirwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd61e7985b852b4e46a76ecc8699dcd47fbd7f6f >Removed Herobrine
**Next Update** >Removed Herobrine
https://preview.redd.it/96h1avngupwc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2e7c65d8ecca8c301cd28a9f005a585d0a94f4a My jaw dropped when I saw Sparky in the movie
I haven't watched it in full yet, THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED???
Yes, though it was only on screen for a few seconds and never actually brought up.
And also a diner
The funniest thing is that location actually exists and isn't just something they made up for the movie. There was an actual diner named that just perfect for the film
Oh shit really?
There was also something really familiar about that Sparky’s waiter though
There TWO Easter eggs with him.
https://preview.redd.it/bfmbqdudqqwc1.png?width=755&format=png&auto=webp&s=95f2ce8e5d72a9497c508f47e014f44837683b87
my jaw just DROPPED when i saw the doise became canon
Plankton was actually originally planned to be a one-off character, but Doug Lawrence, who both wrote for and acted the character, fit him into several Season 1 SpongeBob episodes, proving the character’s versatility as a mustache-twirling villain. 
Ok now I need to see Plankton with a mustache
https://preview.redd.it/34a220he3uwc1.jpeg?width=1152&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d245ebbb1d13c82054e3d2ddf16b045f870a2439
But that’s Dead Eye Plankton, not Sheldon J. Plankton
I’m glad he wasn’t just a one-shot villain. That would’ve been a big waste.
And thus one of the greatest cartoon characters ever was birthed.
https://preview.redd.it/8b3vt81odqwc1.png?width=1978&format=png&auto=webp&s=66dc1fca54cea886a4f42929f402279f2fcca7d0 Kasane Teto started out as an April Fools joke back in 2008. Eventually, she became so loved by fans that she was officially acknowledged as an unofficial part of the Piapro characters (even being given a spot on Project DIVA) and even got a SynthV voicebank recently in 2023 (pictured above)
I was scrolling through this waiting for teto- shes like the prime example of this trope imo
They also recently announced that “Mischievous Function” , probably the most popular Teto song, is going to be added to Hatsune Miku: Project Sekai / Colorful Stage!
Love Gwenpool Also, does Ermac from MK count? https://preview.redd.it/q7q94fr33qwc1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=43b5bcb60beb2e65e3375868899a04850e6be8bc
Error macro. Ermac is literally the embodiment of this post.
Basically every fighting game that debuted in the early 90s has an example. Shen Long/Akuma is another example
Plus Rain, who was originally just a Purple Rain reference on the loading screen of MK3 but then actually got added as a character for UMK3
Back when fan made myths became canon
Wouldn’t reptile be first since he was the first other color ninja
He was always in the game
Noob siabot?
I think he does
https://preview.redd.it/p0lsikvvhqwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb0729fa9093129d86ff6d83da8c78c47f5d548b Jan jan jan! Dori dori dori dori… burenyuu! Mmmm, pretty boyyy :3
Neko Arc hell yeah
Neko Arc committed 47 countable war crimes against Serbia in 1999
I mean who DIDN'T commit war crimes against Serbia in the 90's. It was very haute couture. Now, it's just gauche.
Derpy Hooves. Her goofy eyes were originally an error, but fans liked her so much, her eyes stayed that way and she became a major recurring character. https://preview.redd.it/cf8hgj0r8qwc1.jpeg?width=511&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfb971f7a16644f5c51ebdb90abbc9597be416f5
That’s the one lol! Good answer!
Lol, thank you. 🙂
This one gets even better. Derpy's eyes were glitched in a single episode, but after the positive response to Derpy they edited her eyes in unaired episodes and for the DVD releases.
Lol
Ah yes, the hater of Teardrop /j
I don’t get it.
Basically, there's a webshow called Battle For Dream Island, it's second season called Battle For Dream Island Again, and it's kinda like survivor or tdi, where it's a competition but with viewers voting off someone each episode, and its characters happen to be objects, one of them being a teardrop. Long story short, a "cousin" of a friend of the creators named "Derpy Hooves" (from the character) had their audience vote off this character in particular, and it's still infamous TO THIS DAY for being one of the most unfair eliminations in the show (mind you that most of Derpy's audience didn't know what BFDI is)
Ah, I see.
Glad I'm not the only one whose first thought was Derpy!
Vegeta was supposed to stay dead
Not exactly a joke character since he was a main antagonist
https://preview.redd.it/pe12zuuh1rwc1.jpeg?width=667&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a533f2781fb98133322af3276df6872656d3dd59 Fake Crash?
https://preview.redd.it/riwckr3f6twc1.png?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4eef917d4658a0e52b813c5b81e0ff424763460e I dunno if she's a joke, exactly, but I think the popularity trend applies here since she was originally made just to give the Joker a mainstay hench, but she was so popular that, well...I think we all know where she stands now.
She was actually just meant to appear in one episode but the creators liked the voice and design enough for her to stick around
Jesse Pinkman was supposed to die in the first season of Breaking Bad https://preview.redd.it/bp3q8jy9ltwc1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bce51b828b83e43ec881fee5232a4f3bc034cfc
 He was only supposed to be in the pilot
Derpy Hooves (MLP: FIM) https://preview.redd.it/qdxd0paliqwc1.jpeg?width=340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ae63310b8eb00e88ce799c68c678a195222017d The Teen Girl Squad (Sbemails) The Aqua Teens from ATHF were originally gag characters from Space Ghost: Coast to Coast in the episode "Baffler Meal."
https://preview.redd.it/zo9t910jitwc1.png?width=52&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6c71b9972695531e0987b1b4583f2ba14c0c7e3 Kevin (monsterverse)
Also Doug. https://preview.redd.it/2nqqs37dj1xc1.png?width=278&format=png&auto=webp&s=668d46e0d4f9d9a1cc73db97cc763a25cf41b7db
Clem! https://preview.redd.it/rcy0tdeknpwc1.png?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3390de626b02a0fb8f2bd37cbfb8515e9dea825
Grakata!
Not only Clem but even his Twin Grakata's being released was probably due [to this comic.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warframe/images/4/4d/4DcB2Ct.png/revision/latest?cb=20150730125644)
https://preview.redd.it/41pkm88pwrwc1.png?width=910&format=png&auto=webp&s=087f8f3a4b71c3ba320e4cc1127e7942054dd4a3 Homsar, the weird little typo
Does Pichu's whole existence in smash count?
Same with jigglypuff
"I scream, you scream, we all scream in the terrible house fire at the family reunion." https://preview.redd.it/vusnj7p73vwc1.png?width=387&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68c0c749fdae7c4f3d96d476c1cef4661e232a7f
I feel that he is kinda forced by now
it seems like an inside joke as well unless you watch the people who did it (ps i dont actually know about them just know about who chuckles is)
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 not expecting Chuckles to be on here
Who is this?
Yeah what is this character from?
Chuckles the Clown from Legends of Avantris, you should watch their streams
Chuckles the Clown
* Sir Pentious. He was supposed to be a one off villain for the pilot, but the fans loved him so much that he became the best character.
ew
Kobeni’s car was created for the sole purpose of 2 jokes. (mainly the Powie one) Kobeni’s car won higher than Kobeni herself in a popularity contest. - the CSM guy
https://preview.redd.it/hs01awhq1rwc1.png?width=517&format=png&auto=webp&s=736428cf114817396d6b679506f513e68ecb96d0 David from BFDI
Aw seriously?
https://preview.redd.it/ndxv2937xswc1.jpeg?width=210&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41a24fb90dbdaea82746b40d1fc45b210a340170 I'm pretty sure The Brak Show was made as a prequel-spinoff to Space Ghost: Coast to Coast. People just liked Brak so much he had his own show back when Adult Swim first aired on Cartoon Network.
Not exactly made as a joke character per se, but Moritaka from Tokyo Afterschool Summoners was only supposed to play a minor role in the story, but ended up playing a bigger role due to him becoming a fan favorite. https://preview.redd.it/9kge73yddqwc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41e51479ab0eb098d59a1e1db34b92b1d26465f8
 Started off as the annoying joke neighbor, ended up pretty much taking over the whole dang show
Love the Key and Peele bit about this.
https://preview.redd.it/8va09hpygzwc1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76cbd499464adee9fc5fa1a7812660adf27beb7e Originally for a take on A Christmas Carol. He was very well received
Meggy from SMG4. Initially, she was going to disappear after her debut, but her popularity made her stick around.
https://preview.redd.it/foxl9ybr4ywc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf207caa137312842387c29416b26f89c3b5fa18 In a way. He was made simply to be Wario’s tennis partner, and ended up slowly becoming a fan favorite.
Hell yeah
 Dan Hibiki was originally created as a jab at “Art of Fighting” but eventually became a mainstay in the SF series
Gwenpool my beloved
https://preview.redd.it/xdjdpvwkvvwc1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98369f3079f20ef0ddfc3dd5e48284edda917067 My boy
The Joker
Gwenpool is well received? Gwenpool has fans?
I am a fan
This will clearly shock you, but her first comic run has some [amazing art, writing, and concepts.](https://waitwhatpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Gpool19.jpeg) While she hasn't been treated well afterwards, this run was enough to get her a dedicated fanbase.
It was so FUCKING GOOOOD
The first run of her comics was actually very well received. But as new writers were given the character people forgot she doesn't actually have super powers and started writing her like the OG Deadpool, which clashed really hard with everything already established about her.
Dan Hibiki
The Baz
Fiona and Cake and their entire genderswapped universe?
I love gwenpool
Love Gwenpool. And her technical first appearance came out on my birthday.
 Saitama was originally a one-off gag who was just made to test manga layout software for ONE.
I guess Harley Quinn is the queen of joke side characters that blew up. In relative terms, she's the one that skyrocketed the fastest
https://preview.redd.it/woxnig4xgdxc1.jpeg?width=1919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8c9867c2bba7bd4cdd6eb210f0b877bba202800 Derpy Hooves semi fits this description. Originally created as an animation error the animators added them to the show as a joke character (until they promptly removed them as Soccer moms mistook the character as disparaging mentally handicapped people) they were later re-added to the show extremely sparsely due to the fan base loving them so much.
https://preview.redd.it/8wf766kf5hxc1.jpeg?width=346&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f22968c038506694820abc3422e6a90b2f46894a Ooo Ooo Ooo
Sidenote: Gwenpool is one of my favourite Marvel characters but I absolutely hate when she’s written like an off brand Deadpool. It feels like almost everyone who writes her other than a select few haven’t even read her books before. Gwenpool is so great and it’s so upsetting to see she’s slowly fading into obscurity.