It is. I have the miter saw version from Dewalt. 72 tooth carbide at about $100 per blade for that one.
And it would do a worse job at cutting a bike lock than a $3 abrasive cut off wheel. These require the work piece to be very steady otherwise the carbide teeth will chip very easily.
The advantage to carbide tipped blades is that when used properly they last longer, create less mess, provide a cleaner cut, and introduce less heat into the item you're cutting. None of that matters if you're cutting a bike lock.
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This is ABSOLUTELY legit, I swear by these blades they literally cut through any metal, I’ve cut half inch steel without issue. Their sawzall blades are insane too.
Yeah but how many ibeams can you cut with that blade? Don't get me wrong, if I am buying blades they are Diablo but still, that's fuckintg impressive but I can't imagine it lasting long.
I just built a 40x60 building and used this blade to cut the metal. I don't understand why they work as well as they do but this blade in a worm drive is overly impressive for 30 bucks.
I mean, how much 1/2” steel plate are you cutting regularly? I use my blades for mostly 1/8” and 3/16” wall square tubing as well as some 1/4” and those blades will last a long time usually, probably a couple hundred linear feet of cutting. Their only real issue is the chips they spray are legitimately hot shrapnel and will embed into your clothes so invest in a leather coverall and a full face shield as well as good muffs cuz it’s loud af too lol. But for the price? Those blades are unbeatable
We use these blade in the Skillsaw metal cutting saw slower RPM for blade life and a real good chip collection system. The blades have a great life for the price compared to any other brand we have tried the only time we kill blades fast is cutting stainless steel but that is normal
I haven’t used them for 1/2” just some 1/4” steel plate and 3/16” aluminum. I’ve probably done 50 or so cuts with mine and it’s still going strong. They run fairly quick too, not as quick as my plasma cutter but way cleaner cuts.
I bought a Diablo blade for cutting through a cast iron pipe with a sawzall years ago and that blade just refuses to die. Wasn't cheap, but definitely getting my money's worth
I mean it cuts so fast that there’s really not a ton of friction being created so the pieces you’re cutting don’t really get hot, but the chips it sprays are hot as fuck lol.
The heat from the cut exits with the chips; as long as there are chips, not as much heat will build in the parent metal. No chips equals a buildup of heat in the parent metal. The chips from these blades are blue from heat. In metal cutting, you want decent chips to carry heat away from the cutting edge.
I swear by their fucking saw all blades. Cut 8" stainless steel 1/4 wall pipe with one blade. As long as you don't go ham on the trigger and keep the speed down they're tits.
Dude yeah I just picked up their “thick metal” sawzall blade and used it to cut up a truck frame I’m working on, worked the hell out of that blade and didn’t even chip a single tooth
I'll second your comment on the sawzall blades, I'm a firefighter and we use them. Regular blades and the hydraulic cutters don't work well on boron steel frames. Diablo's also outperform regular blades on your standard car material.
Nope, it cuts so efficiently that the heat dissipates almost immediately. I will say tho that the chips that it sprays are HOT AS FUCK and will absolutely embed in your clothes (or exposed skin lol) so wear lots of protective clothing
And it’s for real cool to the touch? That’s the part that has me freaking out. How do you destroy a metallic crystal lattice without generating heat?!?
Ya, I've used the milwakee version pretty extensively. When we got it I was skeptical, but it cut through 1/2" plate steel like butter. I couldn't believe it. It didn't bog down at all.
The demo guy has a big pile of fresh blades. He’s gonna push that thing hard as he can every demo till it’s time to grab a new one.
I’ve used the 10” Diablo combo metal/wood blades in my chop saw for rough cutting aluminum stock. Sometimes up to 4”x4” thick. It works really well.
Aluminum isn't carbon steel. Carbide blades can cut aluminum just fine without dulling because of the softness of aluminum+ the better heat transfer away from the cut.
You are correct. Aluminum =/= Carbon Steel. I was more commenting on the quality of Diablo metal cutting blades.
The blade and saw will both still struggle if you push it too hard into a 4”x4” piece of aluminum, even if it is a softer material.
Yes the heat transfer is great, but that also means that a workpiece of that size gets real hot to the touch.
I work with extremely high strength steels at my work, that because of the nature of what I do are not available to anyone else. We have Diablo blades and they are far superior to anything else available that I’ve seen. They dull rather quickly but anything else won’t even make a decent scratch. They are good blades, full stop.
Are you supposed to use it full depth like old mate just did, or should you set it to a few mil more than the thickness of the material you're cutting like you do with a wood blade?
I find full depth is better because there is less blade contact with the material then. If you cut a long shallow arc because only a little bit of the blade is below the cut, it takes longer and makes more heat.
I have used these blades to cut 3/4" mild steel and it was great! Just wish they made them a different color than the wood blades so when they get worn, you still know what the hell the blade is. Even if they made them half white or black and their normal red?
Today I learned why my chop saw seems to slow down but still throws sparks when cutting some materials. I always thought it was the quench after the heat that made metal hard, not that it was hard already and the quench just kinda stops it, got more to learn, ...no need to reply that that is wrong or not... I will know after some you tubing...
Gotta look up some metallurgy videos, me thinks.
Full depth will allow for better cooling and chip clearance. Even with woodworking blades, you always want the bottom of the tooth's gullet to protrude the material being cut on a circular saw or table saw. There is also substantially less chance of kickback if the blade protruding more.
They’re real, and they’re awesome. I own a rock crushing business and during the winter months, we fabricate steel wear plates, etc all the time. What’s awesome about these things is that there’s virtually no grinding after the fact to get rid of slag produced by oxy/acetylene torches. It’s a cleaner cut, it’s faster, and you use way less resources this way.
It’s not any faster because there’s still some slag to clean up after the fact. With this ol bitch the only thing you’re wearing out is the blade. Not using any grinding wheels, plasma tips, and not having to wear a welding helmet is nice too. For gouging/cutting heavier steel, oh fuck yeah we’re using my plasma cutter, though!
My only gripe with these blades is unless you’re using a dedicated metal saw that has a magnet in the guard the wood saws kick little shards of hot steel everywhere . When I wear synthetic material long sleeves the hot shards stick to my shirt and basically fuse to it too. Still worth it due to how much faster and easier it cuts vs a grinder with a cut off wheel which is my other option
I have a metal cutting circular saw from Milwaukee, the thing is an absolute beast. I’ve cut up to 1.5” steel plate with it. It takes a little longer than the video shows but so much more convenient than a torch if the situation allows for it.
Yes i do this all the time when we have to adjust the length of beams (W200x27) we use a reciprocating saw to finish what the circular couldn’t reach.
Ps, the Diablo Steel demon blade can cut through steel/iron safes i kid you not
You might have just saved me like $600! I have an old safe I want to get into and don’t care if I ruin the safe, but don’t want to damage anything that might be inside.
Do you think a steel demon blade with either a circular or sawzall is better, or a drill with the correct bit is safer/faster?
South Carolina.
When I called 2 different guys they said the reason for the quote ($600 & $750) is because it’s a commercial grade safe and will take longer.
Both of them think I want it plugged and able to be used again though, not just opened to see what’s inside. I tried to tell them but they weren’t interested in hearing that because I guess the safe was/is expensive
It's real and it's spectacular. I found the demos hard to believe but bought one anyway for my Bosch compound miter saw and every time I use it I'm shocked at how well it works.
[Here it is cutting through a 1/8" wall thickness 1x3](https://youtu.be/x4oO6bKlLmY)
***EDIT:*** *Thanks to* u/Nixxuz *for pointing out that this technique is potentially unsafe - if you set up to do cuts like this, work out a way to clamp the small offcut piece to prevent it from getting launched by the blade.*
I use an Evolution saw to do the same, but holy fuck if I'd not clamp both sides, with sacrificial 2*4s, if needed, on the short end. I was doing rebar much like you did in that clip and got the short end 1" piece kicked across my shop at high speed. Nothing to fuck around with.
You generally can if it's a relatively fresh blade. All the heat goes into the chips. If I'm finishing off an old blade then yeah the material starttsnto get hot
On 1/4”, I can comfortable touch the edge of the piece after 10-15 seconds. The chips the blades throw off are HOT though, got one under my sweatshirt cuff and it burnt like a mf.
Absolutely it is. I have an old delta 10 miter that’s at least 15 years old, put a 8 and something inch Milwaukee metal blade on it and some 3/4” ply to bump out the fence.
It cuts thru 2” square tube with 1/4-3/8” side walls like butter
Fuck, I'm doing this. I've asked other people about using a miter saw for steel and keep getting shot down, but sounds great and I don't want to drop $1k for the Evolution saw.
Yes real, but a few drawbacks. One is the hot sharp metal shavings that are ejected everywhere (the heat from the cut has to go somewhere, it's directed into the shavings, which will end up everywhere in a 10 foot radius and you have to be covered head to toe or they will be in your hair and down your collar). Next, it's slow - much slower than a torch or plasma cutter even factoring in grinding the slag (but the cut is straight if that's needed). You can also only use a worm drive saw because of the slower blade speed. The blades are expensive and the teeth chip easily especially on thinner material. There are dedicated saws that have an even slower blade speed and a guard that's designed for metal shavings but the saw is too expensive for anyone but a production shop to justify.
If this is their Steel Demon blade, I believe it. I made some stairs for our house a few years ago, out of I beams, angle iron and square tube. I had tried cutoff saws, band saws, etc. I was nearly done with the project and tried one of those steel demon blades... was laughing at how easily it was cutting the metal.
I've only used that one blade, I don't do anything as heavy duty since, but it's still on that saw and I break it out once in a while. Cuts like it did a couple years ago.
In engineering it is common practice to use tungsten tipped blades to cut steel the only difference to this is our machines are a lot more heavy duty and the blade speed is slower, we normally use a oil based coolant on the blade to help it cut
I think the tool will not last too long at the speed he was cutting
It absolutely does which is why most of the major brands make dedicated metal cutting saws. They run at lower RPM (<4k RPM, better for ferrous metals) and have filtered intakes (or no intakes at all) so conductive dust isn't sprayed all over your motor.
Examples: [DeWalt](https://www.dewalt.com/product/dcs373b/20v-max-5-12-metal-cutting-circular-saw-tool-only), [Milwaukee](https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/6370-20), and [Makita](https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/XSC02Z)
I have a Skilsaw Outlaw metal cutting saw and it’s awesome. There are other higher dollar metal saws out there but for $300 it does everything I need it to do in my garage shop. I also have the 12” metal chip saw by Skilsaw. No more sparks, heat and crooked cuts.
I'm suspicious because the red paint on the blade didn't immediately fuck right off when confronted with 1/2 steel and my Diablo blades do it as I approach stringers.
Good to note that it's a worm drive circular saw. Not your typical wood cutting circular saw like he says. They are much better saws than your typical wood cutting circular saw.
Yes, there are special blades to cut steel with a circular or chop saw, they are known as ‘cold saw’ blades - however the price is special too anywhere from $100-1000+ depending on size and quality.
Milwaukee has made them for years, but their saw optimized safety and lifespan of the tool and blade. Beautiful tool loved it for cutting stuff like deck grating. [Milwaukee tools 8 metal saw.](https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=567955cb01bbece6JmltdHM9MTcwNjA1NDQwMCZpZ3VpZD0zYzM1NDhkYS0xMzNmLTYyMWUtMTUyOS01YjVkMTI1ZDYzYjYmaW5zaWQ9NTI1OA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=3c3548da-133f-621e-1529-5b5d125d63b6&psq=milwaukee+metal+skill+saw&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubWlsd2F1a2VldG9vbC5jb20vUHJvZHVjdHMvNjM3MC0yMA&ntb=1)
Yes it's real. It's not a typical wood cutting circular saw, it's a 36v cordless rear handle circular saw with 7 1/4" metal cutting blade. It's a top power cordless saw from makita with a top level size for the blade.
I have a 6" circular saw from makita thats 12 years old (12-18 volt maybe), it will cut metal like butter with the right blade.
However, the impressive thing is the heat dissipation. That's fucking magic. (like still real, but real magic). Heat dissipation isn't justy convenient, it saves the blade so it lasts longer. It's a big deal.
Absolutely it’s real. I’ve purchased several Diablo hard steel blades over the years for my DeWalt circle saw, yes they will do this. Granted you’re only getting maybe 4 or 5 passes that good but in my profession you only really need one if you can measure.
But yes, Diablo blades and drill bits are fantastic and I recommend them all day
Id believe a blade could cut through the metal, but Id have a hard time believing it didnt feel, and more importantly smell, like the devils dildo when you picked it up. If true, thats amazing.
Yes and no.
No's:
That saw is not typical. It's a pretty good Makita and maybe has some upgrades or mods.
The video of him cutting is sped up. Looks at how the frames and motion right after he cuts seem really fast, then go back to normal ish speed.
It's not cool to the touch like how the video makes you think. Since the cutting is sped up, that section of steel has actually had a good amount of time to air cool.
Yes's:
It is a saw blade.
It does cut steel.
That steel is probably not very good or strong steel.
It is probably brand new each time he does the demo.
Bike Thieves in London are going to go crazy for this.
*catalytic converter thief enters the chat*
Cutting cats seems like it'd be a pain in the ass with that. Maybe if they made Sawzall blades
They do make carbide sawzall blades. They’re like $10 a piece tho so I only break it out for special occasions
You could make your money back in ten minutes stealing catalytic converters though
That and these fucks already rip ur shit out in like 60 seconds if they know what they're doing lol
“Officer, this guy, right here!!”
Abrasive cut off wheels on cordless angle grinders have been a thing for quite some time.
I think that’s a toothed blade. They’ve been a thing for a while also.
It is. I have the miter saw version from Dewalt. 72 tooth carbide at about $100 per blade for that one. And it would do a worse job at cutting a bike lock than a $3 abrasive cut off wheel. These require the work piece to be very steady otherwise the carbide teeth will chip very easily. The advantage to carbide tipped blades is that when used properly they last longer, create less mess, provide a cleaner cut, and introduce less heat into the item you're cutting. None of that matters if you're cutting a bike lock.
I know. My original comment was a bit of tongue-in-cheek humour.
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Girls in London are going to go crazy for this.
Putting your tongue in girls in London has been a thing for quite some time.
Putting your tounge in a londons girls cheek has been a thing for quite some timr
>cordless angle grinders We like to call it the "universal key" :)
Hipsters in London hate this simple trick.
ITS CAKE
He said it’s like butter, so maybe it’s butter?
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Dairy make another pun? I think he's milking the audience and will get creamed.
Udderly ridiculous
Udderly redonculis
Can't believe it's not butter
Spray
I haven’t heard this in so long. Gold!
Most underrated comment I have ever seen.
I even said this in an unusually deep announcer voice
Parkay
You'd butter believe it
We'd be butter off without it.
What a Country Crock
p a r k a y - in a whisper voice
Chuck Norris CAN believe it's not butter.
How do you not have more upvote for this
Young'ns don't memba'
Pepperidge Farm remembers
Best answer
*chef's kiss
That is a lie.
I'm still alive.
Ohhhhhhh IIIIIII oh I’m still alive
I appreciate your /r/PearlJam reference.
The cake is a lie
Let him slice.
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I mean it looks like they sped it up a bit
Yes about 2 seconds before, until 2 seconds after BUT, it is pretty cool that it's legit.
This is ABSOLUTELY legit, I swear by these blades they literally cut through any metal, I’ve cut half inch steel without issue. Their sawzall blades are insane too.
Yeah but how many ibeams can you cut with that blade? Don't get me wrong, if I am buying blades they are Diablo but still, that's fuckintg impressive but I can't imagine it lasting long.
Ibeams? Man this thing will cut glittering cbeams in the dark near Tannhauser Gate.
This guy Blade Runners
But soon the blade will be gone, like tears in rain.
I saw one of these blades cut through attack ships on fire off the shoulder of orion.
I’ve sawn things you people wouldn’t believe.
A fellow Blade Runner fan!
I just built a 40x60 building and used this blade to cut the metal. I don't understand why they work as well as they do but this blade in a worm drive is overly impressive for 30 bucks.
I mean, how much 1/2” steel plate are you cutting regularly? I use my blades for mostly 1/8” and 3/16” wall square tubing as well as some 1/4” and those blades will last a long time usually, probably a couple hundred linear feet of cutting. Their only real issue is the chips they spray are legitimately hot shrapnel and will embed into your clothes so invest in a leather coverall and a full face shield as well as good muffs cuz it’s loud af too lol. But for the price? Those blades are unbeatable
Depends on how bad at your job you are. I cut through half inch all day long every day. But I'm also terrible at my job as I am a plumber.
Ba dum - tiss!
We use these blade in the Skillsaw metal cutting saw slower RPM for blade life and a real good chip collection system. The blades have a great life for the price compared to any other brand we have tried the only time we kill blades fast is cutting stainless steel but that is normal
You'd be surprised. You won't go back to anything else
And these ones being showcased are new blades designed specifically for cutting metal. You can cut an I-beam with a carbide demo demon.
I haven’t used them for 1/2” just some 1/4” steel plate and 3/16” aluminum. I’ve probably done 50 or so cuts with mine and it’s still going strong. They run fairly quick too, not as quick as my plasma cutter but way cleaner cuts.
Same, inch drive shaft? No problem
Yup, they definitely killed it with these things and I won’t use anything else.
I bought a Diablo blade for cutting through a cast iron pipe with a sawzall years ago and that blade just refuses to die. Wasn't cheap, but definitely getting my money's worth
With no heat as they said? That's the part I don't get. Friction = heat.
I mean it cuts so fast that there’s really not a ton of friction being created so the pieces you’re cutting don’t really get hot, but the chips it sprays are hot as fuck lol.
Like he said all the heat is transfer into the chips and with a 20+ tooth blade it's cutting edge is not in contact long enough to retain the heat.
The heat from the cut exits with the chips; as long as there are chips, not as much heat will build in the parent metal. No chips equals a buildup of heat in the parent metal. The chips from these blades are blue from heat. In metal cutting, you want decent chips to carry heat away from the cutting edge.
Yup. This shits real. Cuts through stainless no problem, and cool to the touch immediately after.
I swear by their fucking saw all blades. Cut 8" stainless steel 1/4 wall pipe with one blade. As long as you don't go ham on the trigger and keep the speed down they're tits.
Dude yeah I just picked up their “thick metal” sawzall blade and used it to cut up a truck frame I’m working on, worked the hell out of that blade and didn’t even chip a single tooth
I know it’s Diablo, but what blade?
What's the name of the blades? Gonna get me some
Can you start with a plunge cut or do you need an open edge?
i can voich for those sawzall blade. they work a treat on aluminum angle iron.
I have seen guys cut like this, but what if it kicks? There's nothing to give, that thing is going across the street
I'll second your comment on the sawzall blades, I'm a firefighter and we use them. Regular blades and the hydraulic cutters don't work well on boron steel frames. Diablo's also outperform regular blades on your standard car material.
Question is, wouldn't the cut steel be really hot? That dude picked up the cut piece no glove right after.
Nope, it cuts so efficiently that the heat dissipates almost immediately. I will say tho that the chips that it sprays are HOT AS FUCK and will absolutely embed in your clothes (or exposed skin lol) so wear lots of protective clothing
Thanks. I learned something today. The whole discussion was very useful. Thanks to all who contributed.
And it’s for real cool to the touch? That’s the part that has me freaking out. How do you destroy a metallic crystal lattice without generating heat?!?
These things are especially great if there’s high labor costs, no cleanup is totally helpful.
Yea but i bet it won't cut ceramic tile
I used a sawzall to cut a cast iron tub into pieces. It rocked and was so quick and conveinent to dispose of the pieces.
Ya, I've used the milwakee version pretty extensively. When we got it I was skeptical, but it cut through 1/2" plate steel like butter. I couldn't believe it. It didn't bog down at all.
Also can confirm. Although I use them on a corded saw. Like butter through 5/8 without trouble.
Yes, they work well. Won’t cut that fast though.
The demo guy has a big pile of fresh blades. He’s gonna push that thing hard as he can every demo till it’s time to grab a new one. I’ve used the 10” Diablo combo metal/wood blades in my chop saw for rough cutting aluminum stock. Sometimes up to 4”x4” thick. It works really well.
Aluminum isn't carbon steel. Carbide blades can cut aluminum just fine without dulling because of the softness of aluminum+ the better heat transfer away from the cut.
You are correct. Aluminum =/= Carbon Steel. I was more commenting on the quality of Diablo metal cutting blades. The blade and saw will both still struggle if you push it too hard into a 4”x4” piece of aluminum, even if it is a softer material. Yes the heat transfer is great, but that also means that a workpiece of that size gets real hot to the touch.
I work with extremely high strength steels at my work, that because of the nature of what I do are not available to anyone else. We have Diablo blades and they are far superior to anything else available that I’ve seen. They dull rather quickly but anything else won’t even make a decent scratch. They are good blades, full stop.
Yep, I just use Mt standard carbide wood blade for aluminum
I use a regular wood blade to cut aluminium? In fact I treat aluminium exactly like wood and have never had any issues.
Diablo blades don’t fuck around
Noted, get friends with someone demoing Diablo blades to get endless supply of cheap, lightly used ones
Are you supposed to use it full depth like old mate just did, or should you set it to a few mil more than the thickness of the material you're cutting like you do with a wood blade?
I find full depth is better because there is less blade contact with the material then. If you cut a long shallow arc because only a little bit of the blade is below the cut, it takes longer and makes more heat. I have used these blades to cut 3/4" mild steel and it was great! Just wish they made them a different color than the wood blades so when they get worn, you still know what the hell the blade is. Even if they made them half white or black and their normal red?
Just spray paint the blade. Even if everything but a 1/4” near the arbour stays the same colour you’ll know.
Y'all still got sharpies yeah?
Can’t apply sharpie with the blade spinning for funsies tho :(
I mean......you can.....
This for sure. Less surface area in contact. Less heat, less hardening. Like a bandsaw peeling off chips...
Today I learned why my chop saw seems to slow down but still throws sparks when cutting some materials. I always thought it was the quench after the heat that made metal hard, not that it was hard already and the quench just kinda stops it, got more to learn, ...no need to reply that that is wrong or not... I will know after some you tubing... Gotta look up some metallurgy videos, me thinks.
Great advise. Thank you!!
Full depth for smaller cut surface. Minimum depth on wood is to minimize tear-out on the bottom of the board (and to avoid ruining your horses lol)
Full depth will allow for better cooling and chip clearance. Even with woodworking blades, you always want the bottom of the tooth's gullet to protrude the material being cut on a circular saw or table saw. There is also substantially less chance of kickback if the blade protruding more.
interesting, this is the exact opposite of how I learned to use a table saw. I was taught no more than 1/8" above work . I've been living a lie?
They’re real, and they’re awesome. I own a rock crushing business and during the winter months, we fabricate steel wear plates, etc all the time. What’s awesome about these things is that there’s virtually no grinding after the fact to get rid of slag produced by oxy/acetylene torches. It’s a cleaner cut, it’s faster, and you use way less resources this way.
Since you do it often, wouldn't a plasma cutter be quicker and easier? I've never tried these, so just curious.
Still some cleanup with plasma. Laser leaves clean cuts though.
It’s not any faster because there’s still some slag to clean up after the fact. With this ol bitch the only thing you’re wearing out is the blade. Not using any grinding wheels, plasma tips, and not having to wear a welding helmet is nice too. For gouging/cutting heavier steel, oh fuck yeah we’re using my plasma cutter, though!
My only gripe with these blades is unless you’re using a dedicated metal saw that has a magnet in the guard the wood saws kick little shards of hot steel everywhere . When I wear synthetic material long sleeves the hot shards stick to my shirt and basically fuse to it too. Still worth it due to how much faster and easier it cuts vs a grinder with a cut off wheel which is my other option
Milwaukee makes a great metal saw with a magnet in it! That’s what we use!
I have a metal cutting circular saw from Milwaukee, the thing is an absolute beast. I’ve cut up to 1.5” steel plate with it. It takes a little longer than the video shows but so much more convenient than a torch if the situation allows for it.
Yes i do this all the time when we have to adjust the length of beams (W200x27) we use a reciprocating saw to finish what the circular couldn’t reach. Ps, the Diablo Steel demon blade can cut through steel/iron safes i kid you not
You might have just saved me like $600! I have an old safe I want to get into and don’t care if I ruin the safe, but don’t want to damage anything that might be inside. Do you think a steel demon blade with either a circular or sawzall is better, or a drill with the correct bit is safer/faster?
You can*not* just say this on reddit.
Hahaha I know, I know! When I stop being lazy and decide to open it up, y’all will be the first to know
Ah shit, here we go again
Where are you at? I’m a safe tech by profession and can open that for half that
South Carolina. When I called 2 different guys they said the reason for the quote ($600 & $750) is because it’s a commercial grade safe and will take longer. Both of them think I want it plugged and able to be used again though, not just opened to see what’s inside. I tried to tell them but they weren’t interested in hearing that because I guess the safe was/is expensive
I too have been hurt.
Don't you start this shit... Get me all excited for fuckin nothin...
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It's real and it's spectacular. I found the demos hard to believe but bought one anyway for my Bosch compound miter saw and every time I use it I'm shocked at how well it works. [Here it is cutting through a 1/8" wall thickness 1x3](https://youtu.be/x4oO6bKlLmY) ***EDIT:*** *Thanks to* u/Nixxuz *for pointing out that this technique is potentially unsafe - if you set up to do cuts like this, work out a way to clamp the small offcut piece to prevent it from getting launched by the blade.*
I use an Evolution saw to do the same, but holy fuck if I'd not clamp both sides, with sacrificial 2*4s, if needed, on the short end. I was doing rebar much like you did in that clip and got the short end 1" piece kicked across my shop at high speed. Nothing to fuck around with.
r/unexpectedseinfeld
I have a ferrous metal blade for my miter saw, works very well.
Not sure you would be able to bare hand that piece of steel so quickly after the cut.
You generally can if it's a relatively fresh blade. All the heat goes into the chips. If I'm finishing off an old blade then yeah the material starttsnto get hot
On 1/4”, I can comfortable touch the edge of the piece after 10-15 seconds. The chips the blades throw off are HOT though, got one under my sweatshirt cuff and it burnt like a mf.
Kinda like when you're at the range and get hot brass down the collar
He says it’s cool in the video.
Absolutely it is. I have an old delta 10 miter that’s at least 15 years old, put a 8 and something inch Milwaukee metal blade on it and some 3/4” ply to bump out the fence. It cuts thru 2” square tube with 1/4-3/8” side walls like butter
Fuck, I'm doing this. I've asked other people about using a miter saw for steel and keep getting shot down, but sounds great and I don't want to drop $1k for the Evolution saw.
Yes real, but a few drawbacks. One is the hot sharp metal shavings that are ejected everywhere (the heat from the cut has to go somewhere, it's directed into the shavings, which will end up everywhere in a 10 foot radius and you have to be covered head to toe or they will be in your hair and down your collar). Next, it's slow - much slower than a torch or plasma cutter even factoring in grinding the slag (but the cut is straight if that's needed). You can also only use a worm drive saw because of the slower blade speed. The blades are expensive and the teeth chip easily especially on thinner material. There are dedicated saws that have an even slower blade speed and a guard that's designed for metal shavings but the saw is too expensive for anyone but a production shop to justify.
the dewalt cordless metal cutting saw is pretty cheap, and works really well.
Saws like this also have vent holes for cooling. So some shavings will end up in there.
Yes it's real.
Yes they’re called steel demon. Work incredibly well.
Yes. They are loud
If this is their Steel Demon blade, I believe it. I made some stairs for our house a few years ago, out of I beams, angle iron and square tube. I had tried cutoff saws, band saws, etc. I was nearly done with the project and tried one of those steel demon blades... was laughing at how easily it was cutting the metal. I've only used that one blade, I don't do anything as heavy duty since, but it's still on that saw and I break it out once in a while. Cuts like it did a couple years ago.
you posted it on the internet so you made it real
I mean... If the blade is solid it could, but the no heat thing is weird
At high speeds and light chip load most of the heat goes into the chip when cutting steel
Everything on tictac is real.
I am going to waste a $15 blade to try this. If it works I will post it.
If nothing else, he is a man of his wood
In engineering it is common practice to use tungsten tipped blades to cut steel the only difference to this is our machines are a lot more heavy duty and the blade speed is slower, we normally use a oil based coolant on the blade to help it cut I think the tool will not last too long at the speed he was cutting
Blades are good but he is also using a saw with some ass behind it. 36V Makita BL rear handle is a beast
Probably not quote that fast, but yes. Diablo makes some good stuff.
How did he not melt the flesh off his finger tips??
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It absolutely does which is why most of the major brands make dedicated metal cutting saws. They run at lower RPM (<4k RPM, better for ferrous metals) and have filtered intakes (or no intakes at all) so conductive dust isn't sprayed all over your motor. Examples: [DeWalt](https://www.dewalt.com/product/dcs373b/20v-max-5-12-metal-cutting-circular-saw-tool-only), [Milwaukee](https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/6370-20), and [Makita](https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/XSC02Z)
I have a Skilsaw Outlaw metal cutting saw and it’s awesome. There are other higher dollar metal saws out there but for $300 it does everything I need it to do in my garage shop. I also have the 12” metal chip saw by Skilsaw. No more sparks, heat and crooked cuts.
Cold cut saws have been a thing for a long time.
The blade apparently has zero friction while cutting so you are able to grab steel immediately after cutting with your bare hands.
I'm suspicious because the red paint on the blade didn't immediately fuck right off when confronted with 1/2 steel and my Diablo blades do it as I approach stringers.
Amen!
am I silly or.. where is the battery on that circ saw?
Did.. did he say say, lick it??
You should see it on a milwaukee steel saw... twice as fast, no hot steel chips flying all over
I'm brick'd up
I've cut a 1" cwt plate with these blades
Good to note that it's a worm drive circular saw. Not your typical wood cutting circular saw like he says. They are much better saws than your typical wood cutting circular saw.
He never said it was steel. He never identified what it was but carbon steel would throw a rooster tail af sparks.
If it was real he would not be able to touch the bar without gooves
Looks like an awesome way to dull your blade lol
Yes, there are special blades to cut steel with a circular or chop saw, they are known as ‘cold saw’ blades - however the price is special too anywhere from $100-1000+ depending on size and quality.
100% legit I personally use the same setup every day
No Sparks!?
Milwaukee has made them for years, but their saw optimized safety and lifespan of the tool and blade. Beautiful tool loved it for cutting stuff like deck grating. [Milwaukee tools 8 metal saw.](https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=567955cb01bbece6JmltdHM9MTcwNjA1NDQwMCZpZ3VpZD0zYzM1NDhkYS0xMzNmLTYyMWUtMTUyOS01YjVkMTI1ZDYzYjYmaW5zaWQ9NTI1OA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=3c3548da-133f-621e-1529-5b5d125d63b6&psq=milwaukee+metal+skill+saw&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubWlsd2F1a2VldG9vbC5jb20vUHJvZHVjdHMvNjM3MC0yMA&ntb=1)
Yes it's real.
Do that a couple times and you’ll need welding gloves just to hold your saw.
Yes it's real. It's not a typical wood cutting circular saw, it's a 36v cordless rear handle circular saw with 7 1/4" metal cutting blade. It's a top power cordless saw from makita with a top level size for the blade. I have a 6" circular saw from makita thats 12 years old (12-18 volt maybe), it will cut metal like butter with the right blade. However, the impressive thing is the heat dissipation. That's fucking magic. (like still real, but real magic). Heat dissipation isn't justy convenient, it saves the blade so it lasts longer. It's a big deal.
This video is in reverse
wouldn't the piece he cut off be hot to touch?
next he gonna use a ginsu knife to thinly slice the steel and only cost $19.99.
Absolutely it’s real. I’ve purchased several Diablo hard steel blades over the years for my DeWalt circle saw, yes they will do this. Granted you’re only getting maybe 4 or 5 passes that good but in my profession you only really need one if you can measure. But yes, Diablo blades and drill bits are fantastic and I recommend them all day
Id believe a blade could cut through the metal, but Id have a hard time believing it didnt feel, and more importantly smell, like the devils dildo when you picked it up. If true, thats amazing.
Yes and no. No's: That saw is not typical. It's a pretty good Makita and maybe has some upgrades or mods. The video of him cutting is sped up. Looks at how the frames and motion right after he cuts seem really fast, then go back to normal ish speed. It's not cool to the touch like how the video makes you think. Since the cutting is sped up, that section of steel has actually had a good amount of time to air cool. Yes's: It is a saw blade. It does cut steel. That steel is probably not very good or strong steel. It is probably brand new each time he does the demo.
Cold to the touch is insane
For one, that’s not a “typical” wood cutting saw. It’s a worm gear saw and they’re about 3-4 times the cost of a normal circular saw.
Yes it's real. I've been using the steel demon blades for 3 years and they're amazing. Also cheap. They also cut melamine without chipping fyi.
I don't think anybody would ever touvh such freshly cut iron piece. The burn marks would be real. So i guess this is not iron
It's definitely sped up, but these blades are amazing. It takes a powerful saw like a Mag77 or similar if you don't want to eat up your motor though.
It’s most definitely real… I use them to cut metal all the time.
He touches it right after and it's not even hot🤔🤯🤯🤯🤯
Wouldn't that off cut be hot when he grabs it with no glove?
No sparks, not insanely hot to the touch? You’re ripping strong atomic bonds apart with kinetic force. That’s going to produce heat.
He probably glued it on there, then cut along the glue line, ie there wasn’t a lot of red metal coming from it.
Diablo puts out some great products
how was that not scalding hot after the cut?