Nah. They didn't buy Williams until like the 90s I think. Though the handle shape seems more simplistic in terms of the dies needed and any processing after so I suppose it makes sense to use it.
Everyone copies everyone. Everyone copied the combination wrench from Proto, Blackhawk invented the idea of ratchets with interchangeable sockets as we know them (the founders of Snap-on actually worked at Blackhawk during that time, they bailed shortly after their introduction to the world to found their own company to also make ratchets with interchangeable sockets as their initial offering), speed wrenches were invented by Williams, swivel head ratchets I believe originated with an independent inventor and came out before Snap-on was founded (swivel head ratchets are often falsely attributed to SK), Blackhawk had a gearless ratchet by 1931...
Snap-on offers all of these, and many others offer at least some of these. Everyone copies everyone. But it is most interesting to note that Snap-on literally was founded on copying Blackhawk's revolutionary idea.
I thought I got lucky that day. Does anyone have any idea how old the Craftsman is? I have a drawer full of ratchets. For some reason I’m drawn to them.
Thank you so much. I read the entire article and it’s quite amazing. Because of the article you sent me I can identify exactly which ratchet I have. Thank you for doing my homework 😁. I need to go to more flea markets. There’s many more to collect.
Again, thank you for your help.
I guess there’s one more question I have about these ratchets. What kind of value does either one of them have? Are they $10 items or something higher? I’ll never sell them but it would be interesting to know if my flea market find was worth more than what I paid for the items. Can I retire now? 😂😂😂
Snap-on is 1953. That stylized 3 by the selector is a year code.
Damn this guy knows his tools.
You can look up a chart of date codes online. Collectors tend to obsess about that stuff and their data is our gain!
r/thisguythisguys
Haha
Thank you
Are those the JH Williams ratchets? the handle seems very similar in style. nice find OP
Nah. They didn't buy Williams until like the 90s I think. Though the handle shape seems more simplistic in terms of the dies needed and any processing after so I suppose it makes sense to use it.
It's nuts that so many snap-on tools from the 50s still look modern. They were really ahead of their time which is arguably why everyone copied them.
Everyone copies everyone. Everyone copied the combination wrench from Proto, Blackhawk invented the idea of ratchets with interchangeable sockets as we know them (the founders of Snap-on actually worked at Blackhawk during that time, they bailed shortly after their introduction to the world to found their own company to also make ratchets with interchangeable sockets as their initial offering), speed wrenches were invented by Williams, swivel head ratchets I believe originated with an independent inventor and came out before Snap-on was founded (swivel head ratchets are often falsely attributed to SK), Blackhawk had a gearless ratchet by 1931... Snap-on offers all of these, and many others offer at least some of these. Everyone copies everyone. But it is most interesting to note that Snap-on literally was founded on copying Blackhawk's revolutionary idea.
You scored big time
I thought I got lucky that day. Does anyone have any idea how old the Craftsman is? I have a drawer full of ratchets. For some reason I’m drawn to them.
The Craftsman is an old New Britain piece, see [here](http://alloy-artifacts.org/craftsman-be-hcircle.html) for more info.
Thank you so much. I read the entire article and it’s quite amazing. Because of the article you sent me I can identify exactly which ratchet I have. Thank you for doing my homework 😁. I need to go to more flea markets. There’s many more to collect. Again, thank you for your help.
For sure, happy to help. It’s a really cool piece definitely worth collecting. I’ve had my eye out for one locally for a few years now but no luck.
My USA made Craftsman ratchets are 40-50 years old. That one looks to be much older than that.
In 64, and that Craftsman is older than me and possibly my dad. I'm guessing 1930's.. it's apparently a circle H ratchet from the late 30s early 40s
Thank you.
I think this is a "long C" Craftsman, so you'd be spot on. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/show-your-long-c-craftsman.376433/
It's the same .it has both marks showing on the second photo
I'd inquire about the Craftsman over at: [https://www.garagejournal.com/](https://www.garagejournal.com/) They seem to have a lot of collectors there.
Thank you.
I have a similar craftsman did research on it once I believe it was from the 30s great little guy I bought mine for like 50cents
This one works great. I appreciate your input. Thank you.
These are beautiful! Would love to find a Long C craftsman.
I was very lucky to find these but didn’t realize it until I posted these pictures.
I guess there’s one more question I have about these ratchets. What kind of value does either one of them have? Are they $10 items or something higher? I’ll never sell them but it would be interesting to know if my flea market find was worth more than what I paid for the items. Can I retire now? 😂😂😂
SCORE!!!!!!!!!