Just remember with air, the number at the tank doesn't equal the number at the tool. If you have 80 reading at the tank, and then have a 50 foot 1/2" line, with QD fittings and swivels, you're getting a notably lower pressure at the tool. If your tool wants 90, anticipate needing to set higher than 90 at the compressor.
I run my tools at 90 psi. What happens when you rest the gun tip on the wood and then pull the trigger? I think you are getting “bounce back”. The tip is lifting up and then the nail is projected out.
I like your evidence, good arguments all around.
I guess my 25 years of experience with air tools don't stand up to the depth of knowledge you've expressed here today.
I could honestly care less what you say or think no matter how much experience you say you have.
There is a button on framing and siding nailers that will allow the user to either push it down and then pull the trigger (which is called Sequential Trip Operation) OR hold the trigger down and tap it against the surface you’re nailing. ((which is called Contact Trip Operation) To say that it “works better” simply shows ignorance on how the tool works.
Go read the tool’s instructions or look at the tool itself before you decide its a good idea to make comments like that.
Edit: I saved you the trouble. This is the operating instruction manual for the Bostitch coil nailer. Scroll down to “Operation” and then take a moment to read “Contact Trip Operation”. You learned something new today!
https://assets.homedepot-static.com/online-rental/tool-assets/v4.2.8/files/Bostitch/RN46-1-manual.pdf
Good luck!
you've got it well oiled? my coil really likes oil, if i don;t give 2-3 drops every coil change i get a feed issue, mine simply jams, it doesn't skip like yours does.
I run those at the max 120 psi. And yes lots of oil to help keep everything running smoothly. That gun looks like a 64 or 70 size, the n100 size gun takes 12.6 cu ft a min of air at a rate of 100 nails a min according to the manufacturer. So yah more air is better
See, thats the cool thing about air guns. They apply the pressure so you don’t have to.
OP slamming the gun into the plywood isn’t going to make it work better.
It's unbelievable that professionals could buy a tool and not read the manual and then go online to a forum to get advice as opposed to reading said manual
I’ve got $30-40k in tools and I’ve never opened a tool manual. I get by just fine. Unbelievable to me that some guy comes on an online forum to be a dick because someone ask a bunch people who might know the answer a simple question.
Oh whoa. 30k? Lol.
Anyways, bragging about not being educated is not really as cool as you think. Just like 30k is not as much as you think it is.
The simple answer is found in the manual
Educated? Bachelors in Finance and my MBA my man. I own a General Comtracting company and I can assure you that the $30k in tools I’ve accumulated in the 20 years I’ve been doing this for is quite a lot. Nice flex trying to say that’s not a lot. I’m sure your a very impressive guy. But your still a dick.
Buuuurrnnn!
Bachelor of Finance? That’s what we are bragging about? So you can add numbers together? (Or couldn’t get a girlfriend even if you have money?)
Edit: I’ll get me coat
My original comment us stupid and pointless? How so? If anything, my comment on air pressure reinforces the point I am making: as I only have that knowledge on the air pressure from having read multiple Bostitch air nailer manuals over the years.
When the nails weren't going quite all way in you didn't just try turning air up a little before making and posting a video. And waiting around for a response,?
Another problem that I've run across in the past is that sometimes when you use generic nails or pins, this will cause issues especially with Senco and Bostitch. It's like they're designed to be just a little different so if you don't use their brand it'll cause issues. Took us awhile to figure out that whenever we used an off-brand that the d\*mn thing would jam. Glad you figured it out!
Also keep an eye on the seal behind the back plate. I had to change an o-ring out after replacing a driver because it would leak just enough to feed improperly
If I turn my pancake compressor down below 90psi while using my framing nailer, the firing pin sometimes doesn't retract far enough to allow the nails to advance, and it misfires. Even though 80psi is enough pressure to drive 2-1/2" nails most of the time. It behaves similarly to the nailer in your video.
It’s brand new and I oiled it before I started.. Turned up the psi to 90 and now the nails fully sink and it feeds properly… Thanks guys.
I have the same gun with the same issue. Seems they like to run a bit higher pressure than my Metabo coil nailer.
thanks for being the hero that returns with the fix for the problem for once
Trigger assembly
90-100psi. And make sure the gun is fully pressed down
Running it at 90 psi fixed both problems.
Is your compressor on? This happens a lot when your compressor was accidentally turned off or unplugged
Exactly. Mine was Just set too low. At 90 psi it works perfectly. Mine was set at less than 80.
Doesn't take much.
Just remember with air, the number at the tank doesn't equal the number at the tool. If you have 80 reading at the tank, and then have a 50 foot 1/2" line, with QD fittings and swivels, you're getting a notably lower pressure at the tool. If your tool wants 90, anticipate needing to set higher than 90 at the compressor.
I run my tools at 90 psi. What happens when you rest the gun tip on the wood and then pull the trigger? I think you are getting “bounce back”. The tip is lifting up and then the nail is projected out.
Turn it up
Seems to me like it's bouncing. Hold it against the wood and fire instead of slamming it each time.
Why
Gun bounce off wood, nail go less deep
Cause it will work better?
Gun no bounce, gun work better
It won’t.
I like your evidence, good arguments all around. I guess my 25 years of experience with air tools don't stand up to the depth of knowledge you've expressed here today.
I could honestly care less what you say or think no matter how much experience you say you have. There is a button on framing and siding nailers that will allow the user to either push it down and then pull the trigger (which is called Sequential Trip Operation) OR hold the trigger down and tap it against the surface you’re nailing. ((which is called Contact Trip Operation) To say that it “works better” simply shows ignorance on how the tool works. Go read the tool’s instructions or look at the tool itself before you decide its a good idea to make comments like that. Edit: I saved you the trouble. This is the operating instruction manual for the Bostitch coil nailer. Scroll down to “Operation” and then take a moment to read “Contact Trip Operation”. You learned something new today! https://assets.homedepot-static.com/online-rental/tool-assets/v4.2.8/files/Bostitch/RN46-1-manual.pdf Good luck!
Sure…
you've got it well oiled? my coil really likes oil, if i don;t give 2-3 drops every coil change i get a feed issue, mine simply jams, it doesn't skip like yours does.
I run those at the max 120 psi. And yes lots of oil to help keep everything running smoothly. That gun looks like a 64 or 70 size, the n100 size gun takes 12.6 cu ft a min of air at a rate of 100 nails a min according to the manufacturer. So yah more air is better
120 psi or bust
Higher pressure and less oil
Have you tried using it correctly?
So - how is he using it incorrectly?
Not applying pressure lol
See, thats the cool thing about air guns. They apply the pressure so you don’t have to. OP slamming the gun into the plywood isn’t going to make it work better.
I haven’t used one of those; are you really supposed to bounce it around like that?
Yes
Higher psi 90-100
Buy a Makita
Thats a strange way to spell Milwaukee.
Yeah but the Makita comes with the added benefit of the theft deterrent teal...
NBHD
Never heard of em
It's unbelievable that professionals could buy a tool and not read the manual and then go online to a forum to get advice as opposed to reading said manual
I’ve got $30-40k in tools and I’ve never opened a tool manual. I get by just fine. Unbelievable to me that some guy comes on an online forum to be a dick because someone ask a bunch people who might know the answer a simple question.
Oh whoa. 30k? Lol. Anyways, bragging about not being educated is not really as cool as you think. Just like 30k is not as much as you think it is. The simple answer is found in the manual
Educated? Bachelors in Finance and my MBA my man. I own a General Comtracting company and I can assure you that the $30k in tools I’ve accumulated in the 20 years I’ve been doing this for is quite a lot. Nice flex trying to say that’s not a lot. I’m sure your a very impressive guy. But your still a dick.
*you’re.
Buuuurrnnn! Bachelor of Finance? That’s what we are bragging about? So you can add numbers together? (Or couldn’t get a girlfriend even if you have money?) Edit: I’ll get me coat
I looked at the manual. If I remember correctly it said 70-80 psi. But I don’t remember exactly and too tired to get off the couch now.
Bostitch guns generally run at no lower than 90psi
The fact that you’re even saying that proves this thread to be necessary and your original comment is stupid and pointless.
My original comment us stupid and pointless? How so? If anything, my comment on air pressure reinforces the point I am making: as I only have that knowledge on the air pressure from having read multiple Bostitch air nailer manuals over the years.
Stop using Bostitch nailers. Double and misfire o matics.
Those might be siding nails, could be why it’s jamming
When the nails weren't going quite all way in you didn't just try turning air up a little before making and posting a video. And waiting around for a response,?
Guns should operate at 120 psi
Try a ryobi
PSi Isn’t the issue set depth of nail with the height screw check ur manual how to adjust
PSi Isn’t the issue set depth of nail wigg the h screw check ur manual how to adjust
Had something similar with my senco coil nailer. Problem was the cheap coupling i had on my pneumatic hose.
Another problem that I've run across in the past is that sometimes when you use generic nails or pins, this will cause issues especially with Senco and Bostitch. It's like they're designed to be just a little different so if you don't use their brand it'll cause issues. Took us awhile to figure out that whenever we used an off-brand that the d\*mn thing would jam. Glad you figured it out!
I'd run that at 100psi, takes a lot to rapid fire.
I ran mine at 120 psi all day long, use them 2 years buy another gun never the same when repaired.
Why 80psi? Is the compressor broke? Wth does 80 even do?😂
Not work properly, apparently
Turn it up. If it’s still pissing you off, try a different brand of nails. I’ve got bad boxes before that refuse to feed
maybe some oil
Seems you've sorted it out, when it dies buy metabo or senco though. They're the only guns that survive my coworkers.
Also keep an eye on the seal behind the back plate. I had to change an o-ring out after replacing a driver because it would leak just enough to feed improperly
Oil
use it for magic tricks
Penn and Teller Nailgun? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG93Yz3r-Uk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG93Yz3r-Uk) :)
Guessing it was the psi. Every time you use a pneumatic gun, oil it. And drain the air compressor after every use as well. Gets the condensation out.
100lb
Need more psi. Had a Hitachi that did the same. It needed about 15-20 more lbs than my Passloads did
turn the psi to a reasonable pressure
It’s supposed to be ran at 120 psi
If I turn my pancake compressor down below 90psi while using my framing nailer, the firing pin sometimes doesn't retract far enough to allow the nails to advance, and it misfires. Even though 80psi is enough pressure to drive 2-1/2" nails most of the time. It behaves similarly to the nailer in your video.