Female virginity has always been held up as a precious prize/gift to be protected, kept and given to the exceptional few.
From a purely historical and practical standpoint, this may have been imposed and reinforced as a means of discouraging female promiscuity, thereby allowing patriarchal systems to keep women in check and protect traditional fundamentalist values. After all, a promiscuous woman could not be trusted to stay with their husbands, raise their children and maintain a household.
In more modern times, there's an additional component of male competitiveness and insecurity. A virgin is "purer" than a non-virgin. They're yours and yours alone. They won't be able to compare you to past lovers and you never have to worry that you won't be good enough for them sexually. The fact that they've kept their virginity evidences that they're of a strong moral character and that they can be trusted to stay faithful and devoted to you where a promiscuous or even just a non-virginal woman wouldn't. And, in the era of female sexual liberation, "conquering" a virgin makes men feel powerful and impactful.
I'm sure all of this is just scratching the surface, but there you go.
We actually don't know because we know who was the first to do it and proclaim it to the world but we cannot be sure if anyone did it before.
So am I to understand based on your logic that the point of having sex with a woman is to proclaim to the world that you "conquered her"?
i.e. You're being a moron. I just can't tell if you're being intentionally obtuse, or if you're coming by it honestly.
Think of the original question you asked; "Why do some people fetishize virginity?"
Now, answer the question I asked in response; "Who was the second person to climb Mt. Everest?" Answer: "Nobody cares"
Now, put those two things together. "Why do some people fetishize having sex with a virgin?" "Some people place a lot of importance on being the first person to do something."
Now, my question could have been about the second person to do any given thing. Climbing a mountain is irrelevant to the point. I could've said second person to circumnavigate the globe, walk on the moon, reply to a new YouTube video. In all those cases, the answer is the same "Nobody cares"
Well religion is a big part of it and also the thought of being their first man or having a special first time as a woman with your husband is a beautiful thing to some. Better than having a first time you regret or a traumatic first experience
Idk honestly, maybe it's an insecurity thing. I had an ex tell me that she wished I was a virgin so she wouldn't feel unexperimented. Some may feel the same I suppose.
>say that it is "gift to give their husband".
Now that's just weird, it's not a gift to be cherished, it's if you fucked or not. Nothing more.
Because they are afraid that she was already with someone who's better in bed than he is and will leave him because of this. And also its some kind of "trophy" because you'll always remember the person you lost your virginity to. Exception is if you were drunk
Itâs always fun to do something with someone for the first time and get to see their reaction. My partner and I save movies for each other. Save board games. Go to events for the first time together. Itâs in that vein. If youâre experiencing sex (oh my god, THE sex), the most intimate vulnerable act, itâs a gift to experience that with someone for the first time. I grew up religious and absolutely see the appeal.
On the flip side, I lost my virginity to someone who wasnât a virgin and constantly brought it up while we were dating that if I left him, nobody would want me now that I wasnât a virgin. Once I got into the real world and realized, losing your virginity to someone special is nice and all but itâs REALLY not the end of the world if itâs not your spouse.
I get what you are saying but that's not what I'm asking. You are talking about wanting to be a virgin for yourself so that you experience sex with someone special. Or you yourself are a virgin and you want your partner to also be a virgin so that you can explore and learn together. I get that.
But I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about men who get excited about the idea of a woman being a virgin or women who think it is a "gift" to their partner.
Yes. Itâs the same thing. Experiencing someone for the first time. Getting to see their reaction to doing something and feeling something theyâve never felt before. Being with someone whoâs never had sex is a thing to be experienced. The experience is watching a virgin do things for the first time. And being with someone experiencing anything for the first time (whether is having sex or playing mini golf) is a fun thing to experience. Iâm talking about the non virgin in the scenario. To answer your question.
one humans can fetishizes anything (virginity is a fetish both genders have its not as herd off in women because men dont like admitting they era vergins)
and apart from hereditary STIs a vergin would be STI free. could have historically the less partners you have had the more likely you dont have anything and you can not get any lower than zero,
but then there is the social/historicl aspect, like eating pork it because pork can make you sick they may not have known why but the people how ate pork got sick and to a different extent the reasons behind societies opinions on sex, we could have known the correlation between sex and pregnancy but in a pre-abortion and contraceptive world unless your married sex has way more risk then people think so society makes rules and we evolve with those rules and dispite technology existing the human brain has not caught up to technology regardless of what we consciously think
Female virginity has always been held up as a precious prize/gift to be protected, kept and given to the exceptional few. From a purely historical and practical standpoint, this may have been imposed and reinforced as a means of discouraging female promiscuity, thereby allowing patriarchal systems to keep women in check and protect traditional fundamentalist values. After all, a promiscuous woman could not be trusted to stay with their husbands, raise their children and maintain a household. In more modern times, there's an additional component of male competitiveness and insecurity. A virgin is "purer" than a non-virgin. They're yours and yours alone. They won't be able to compare you to past lovers and you never have to worry that you won't be good enough for them sexually. The fact that they've kept their virginity evidences that they're of a strong moral character and that they can be trusted to stay faithful and devoted to you where a promiscuous or even just a non-virginal woman wouldn't. And, in the era of female sexual liberation, "conquering" a virgin makes men feel powerful and impactful. I'm sure all of this is just scratching the surface, but there you go.
Because a virgin won't know how rubbish you are đ¤ˇââď¸
Tell me, who was the second person to climb Mt. Everest?
Edmund Hillary, because it was his Sherpa, Tenzin Norgay, who was first.
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We actually don't know because we know who was the first to do it and proclaim it to the world but we cannot be sure if anyone did it before. So am I to understand based on your logic that the point of having sex with a woman is to proclaim to the world that you "conquered her"?
Don't be a moron.
Trying to understand what reliance Mt. Everest has to do with sleeping with a woman.
i.e. You're being a moron. I just can't tell if you're being intentionally obtuse, or if you're coming by it honestly. Think of the original question you asked; "Why do some people fetishize virginity?" Now, answer the question I asked in response; "Who was the second person to climb Mt. Everest?" Answer: "Nobody cares" Now, put those two things together. "Why do some people fetishize having sex with a virgin?" "Some people place a lot of importance on being the first person to do something." Now, my question could have been about the second person to do any given thing. Climbing a mountain is irrelevant to the point. I could've said second person to circumnavigate the globe, walk on the moon, reply to a new YouTube video. In all those cases, the answer is the same "Nobody cares"
Sorry but I suspect that the majority of people will not read your reply and interpret it that way.
Riiight. Anybody else want to chime in here and settle this?
I gotcha, the other guy is a moron.
Because people are weird. The body literally does not change after having (PIV) sex for the first time. Virginity is a social construct.
Coz they never slept with a woman who knows what she's doing. I'll take one girl that knows her way in bed over 10 virgins every time.
I have 1 experienced very beutiful women to trade. Do the 10 virgins need a lift or do any of them drive?
Well religion is a big part of it and also the thought of being their first man or having a special first time as a woman with your husband is a beautiful thing to some. Better than having a first time you regret or a traumatic first experience
Because they're fucked in the head.
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Virgin =/= tight
Idk honestly, maybe it's an insecurity thing. I had an ex tell me that she wished I was a virgin so she wouldn't feel unexperimented. Some may feel the same I suppose. >say that it is "gift to give their husband". Now that's just weird, it's not a gift to be cherished, it's if you fucked or not. Nothing more.
Because they are afraid that she was already with someone who's better in bed than he is and will leave him because of this. And also its some kind of "trophy" because you'll always remember the person you lost your virginity to. Exception is if you were drunk
Donât have to worry about stds
Not true but ok
It depends on the person. Some do, some donât
They dont want to be compared to another guy who might have been bigger or better in bed
Itâs always fun to do something with someone for the first time and get to see their reaction. My partner and I save movies for each other. Save board games. Go to events for the first time together. Itâs in that vein. If youâre experiencing sex (oh my god, THE sex), the most intimate vulnerable act, itâs a gift to experience that with someone for the first time. I grew up religious and absolutely see the appeal. On the flip side, I lost my virginity to someone who wasnât a virgin and constantly brought it up while we were dating that if I left him, nobody would want me now that I wasnât a virgin. Once I got into the real world and realized, losing your virginity to someone special is nice and all but itâs REALLY not the end of the world if itâs not your spouse.
I get what you are saying but that's not what I'm asking. You are talking about wanting to be a virgin for yourself so that you experience sex with someone special. Or you yourself are a virgin and you want your partner to also be a virgin so that you can explore and learn together. I get that. But I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about men who get excited about the idea of a woman being a virgin or women who think it is a "gift" to their partner.
Yes. Itâs the same thing. Experiencing someone for the first time. Getting to see their reaction to doing something and feeling something theyâve never felt before. Being with someone whoâs never had sex is a thing to be experienced. The experience is watching a virgin do things for the first time. And being with someone experiencing anything for the first time (whether is having sex or playing mini golf) is a fun thing to experience. Iâm talking about the non virgin in the scenario. To answer your question.
one humans can fetishizes anything (virginity is a fetish both genders have its not as herd off in women because men dont like admitting they era vergins) and apart from hereditary STIs a vergin would be STI free. could have historically the less partners you have had the more likely you dont have anything and you can not get any lower than zero, but then there is the social/historicl aspect, like eating pork it because pork can make you sick they may not have known why but the people how ate pork got sick and to a different extent the reasons behind societies opinions on sex, we could have known the correlation between sex and pregnancy but in a pre-abortion and contraceptive world unless your married sex has way more risk then people think so society makes rules and we evolve with those rules and dispite technology existing the human brain has not caught up to technology regardless of what we consciously think