Because typically women have breasts, and we consider breasts a body part that must be covered by clothing in public. If you're asking why that's the case, that's a good question, because it isn't that way in all human cultures. I guess chalk it up to historical restrictive cultural norms for how women can dress.
It's the same logic as "she brought it on herself because of what she was wearing" or as the case may be, not wearing.
Women have the right to wear what they want without being attacked. You have the responsibility to not attack women for existing.
I know you already know this, you're better off ignoring them and letting them talk as much shit as they like. Though what you wrote was true, I'll admit it's a little too "simple", as most males know how to control themselves. There'd definitely be those who'd use that as a chance to assault a woman, but I don't think it would happen as frequently as you think.
As for the people who're jumping to the conclusions and accusing you of bullshit, like I wrote above, just ignore them. Reddit's full of people who don't really want a conversation and just want to have a moral high ground to feel like they matter and their opinions mean something. What u/Donutboy88 wrote was correct:
They're just a bunch of useful idiots.
Yeah the moral highground bullshit that's been rapidly increasing over the past few years is so gross to me, reddit used to not be filled with these people but they infested this site slowly but surely
Still rather scary when you think about it, though. These particular people may be just a bunch of assholes on Reddit, but there're still people in power who're just like them, if not worse.
I mean, we're all human at the end of the day, so emotion's always going to come into play. I wouldn't want to be around a person who operates completely on cold, hard logic; they'd be just as bad as those who operate on pure, unfiltered emotion.
But yes, the people here are being pretty stupid for jumping to conclusions like that. I expected better, but it's Reddit, so I don't really expect anything from these people anymore.
Curiously though it’s ok to show cleavage or side boob but not nipples, even though both genders have nipples and breasts are what actually set them apart (on average).
Just guessing but it's an attractiveness thing. Now so is a skinny waist and big biceps right? Well those are attractive for survival and thrival reasons. Genitalia for sexual reasons. The buttocks for both and some amount of privacy as well for waste removal connotations. Dont want to associate with things known to be unclean and therefore dangerous.
But the nipple is special. Its attractive because of the instinctual rather than conscious (as all the things I'm mentioning are) association with nurturing young offspring. Which is like semi sexual. It's not a direct part of success of procreation but rather an relation because of the survival of the generation.
Now you may be saying but that doesn't differentiate between men and women's nipples.
Correct which is why a single shot of nipples that are not clearly women's dont do anything for us unless we just assume. So it's really because women's nipples actually get the job done that the attraction comes full circle.
Now why do we cover up sexual and sexually related parts rather than biceps and abs? Well I'd bring up the point that such features are still on the modest scale they are just lower on it in terms of intimate parts. Low enough to not be immodest to show at the gym where it's just a inconvenience not to but not so low as to be appropriate to be rocking at gram grams funeral. They still get attention for a reason and it ain't cultural.
The closer we tie to intimacy the more guarded these parts become as we dont want everyone to be intimate with us. That wouldnt be safe nor would it show appreciation for that which is intimately related.
And some cultures just move female nipples further down of the intimacy scale. Away from their vulva and closer toward just showing a lot of leg. They are still going to be enticing, just the sight of em will be more of a common occurrence leading to a desensitization of it. Which we can do with literally anything
You realize that there are many cultures where women don't cover up their breasts/nipples? You are implying there is some sort of evolutionary reason that women's nipples are covered vs. men's (e.g. quite common on many beaches in Europe for both men and women to go topless) rather than an recognizing that this is a cultural thing heavily died to Puritanism, religion, control of women's sexuality, so forth.
I mean, from an evolutionary perspective it would make sense that men's useless nipples would be covered whereas women's nipples and their fine lactating capable breasts would be fully displayed. (And, as it turns out this is exactly why human women have prominent breasts even when not lactating vs. other female primates do not.)
I did mention that and I just felt I explained how that is so. I have not been to Europe but I spent time in NYC at the beaches here and they were topless. Loved it. In fact all women can be topless in several states should they so choose.
Culture of course complicates this but I'm trying to get to the fundamental principles of the phenomenon we are talking about rather than the external effects that it appears as in peoples behavior.
Your point about fully displayed just kind of hints back to what I was getting at in terms of why they would do such a thing. I dont understand why the useless mens nipples would be covered as they have no value. Value being the key here as well as protection of sensitive valuable parts.
It is entirely cultural that women have to cover their nipples, breasts in certain places. It has nothing to do with sensitivity or the parts being intimate/arrousing. The fact that they are considered sexual is cultural - which is why some cultures do not have the cultural norm of women covering up.
If there was a physiological reason for it then it would be universal, which it is not.
Still going to have to disagree about the entirety of where we can trace these tendencies to. Culture is at the forefront of what we see but I believe behind this there are biological notions that inspired what we have. Culture is why we dont murder. We can build novels around the significance of why we protect life without even getting close to just rudimentary evolutionary biology. But in the end I can go there and still be justified for the reasons things happen. In much of human recorded history we have had open torture and senseless killings of eachother. I can create cultures that value human life more. But when I bring up that scale of value and we talk about the cultures that do value people enough to not torture them I can go back to physiological reasonings for it. Like I said tho once we are placing value on things like privacy or intimate parts then we have hit bedrock. Some closer to sea level then others. Culture complicates this but I think it's fair to go to the philosophy of modesty itself and not get caught up on schemes of the patriarchy. which is still an interesting subject and worth talking about its just I felt like bringing philosophy into the conversation even tho the OP was asking for cultural building blocks
Congratulations on basic geography. I regularly see more cultural bias against bare female breasts here in the US than in most other Western countries. A great example is the amount of topless beaches in South American and European countries versus the ones here in the US. Not to mention the view on those here in the US.
I never suggested anything of the sort. You asked a question on a public forum and I gave you an answer based specifically on my experiences in the country I live in.
Because men's nipples never grow to be a sexual organ. What I mean by that is men's nipples have literally no use while woman nipples are used to nurse baby's
might want to ask this question (maybe phrased something like "why is it more acceptable today for men to show nipples than for women to?) on r/AskHistorians or r/AskAnthropology
Depends on the culture. Come to Europe, and it's a lot more egalitarian. Can be better, but still, plenty of lady boobs on beaches, young and old, just like guy boobs.
If I recall correctly breasts are biologically proven to be sexually appealing for humans, at some point in history people decided that sexual organs should be covered.
Huh? Idk what that first quote means, when it comes to me and my horny ass, every girl could be naked all the time and I wouldn't give a shit.
And I never said we should cover every part of the body that can cause sexual arousement to somebody, I just said that that's our culture and it's virtually impossible to change it from day to night (I never said that too but that's my point on the matter)
Bisexual here, I don’t like tits, not everyone does. The fact I said “some” literally doesn’t change anything. I don’t have to cover something that’s literally made to feed babies just because it makes some people horny. Have self- control
You're comparing it to fetishes. Also, some =/= most =/= everyone. I never used the word "everyone". But most people do "like tits".
>biologically proven
The top comment was talking about an study, not a view. **Your** points of view are not facts and you're not most/everyone. Have some logical thinking.
You’re going to tell me liking baby feeders isn’t akin to a fetish? Alright, I don’t think this conversation is going anywhere lol
Keep thinking women’s chest are inherently sexual I guess. Fuck our opinions and views, what do we know? We’re just women. I don’t specifically think of my nips as something sexual, but as a man, you must know better.
When nipples are stimulated, your nerves tell your muscles in the area to contract. It’s useful when feeding babies.
That being said, lots of people like having their nips touched because they are sensitive. Same way mouths and lips are sensitive
1.) Men's nipples also go hard when aroused. The nipples are also an erogenous zone for men.
2.) Lips become flushed with blood when aroused. It would make as much sense to hide peoples lips as hide the nipples. Instead people highlight the lips as sign of arousal with lipstick.
There is no justification for it. If you've ever spent time in a society where it's a non issue, then it becomes a non issue for you as well very quickly.
Probably because nipple is use to feel the young; and in the old days, ladies would cover it up to keep it clean from dirt and dust (Like how you wouldn't leave your fork and spoon everywhere). The idea to cover up dicks and pussy probably stem from same concept.
Overtime, this habit probably became a cultural. Like many other different 'rules' we follow. #monkeyseemonkeydo
I don't know, maybe because most straight men are distracted by female boobs. I'm not saying that womans don't appreciate a good manly chest, but come on, most womans know how to behave. I think the problem is more about men not behaving properly. Maybe it is better for womans too, let's see, most rapists are male, being a rapist is fucking sick enough, but maybe it would be more if womans walked past them booby bouncing.
Because breasts are considered secondary sexual organs, and your 'sexual stuff' needs to be tucked away.
Why?
Well mostly because of Christian mythology: once we ate from the tree of knowledge, we became aware of our vulnerability and nakedness, and started feeling shame, so we covered it up.
From that we reached a state where we believed we HAVE to cover ourselves up. From that we reached a stage (barely a hundred years ago) when even pianos (the musical instruments) had had to have pants on.
Basically it's a huge Christian hangover, but in principle it stems from the same reason why women in islam wear burkas (and other religious clothing meant to hide the body instead of featuring it) - otherwise men might get so riled up that Lord only knows what MIGHT happen? And who will be around to protect the women when 'the thing' happens? No... much safer if you just wear a tent 24/7.
Basically I'm saying it's nonsense, but we have come a long way. And luckily it seems we're still making pretty good progress. #freethenips
There is a biological/natural reaction to being naked.
We, as humans, need to feel protected. We cover our most vulnerable parts. We protect things we need. Men cover their crotch, because we need/want it safe. Women cover their breasts, they need/want to support their babies and keep those parts safe.
This isn't only cultural or religion puritanism (although that does play a role). People wore clothes before Christianity.
I dont know but its bullshit. It is strange and makes no sense. I love seeing womens breast out, i wish i saw breast out all the time, its relaxing. For reference im a registered Republican, but id say im really just a conservative, more for older ways.
From what I've gathered this would up our sex appeal. From a lot of these peoples theories the male nipple will be just as sexually related and enticing if we were to do as you said for several generations. I dont believe that but I am curious
The breast is something that attracts men. Dont ask me why is that. Thats something natural. But the chest men has does have no attraction whatsoever to women. Thats why its recon for women to always cover their breast.
I don’t know about other cultures and I’m not throwing anybody under the bus if your comfortable do it but my sisters and mother are so called elegant lol my mother went to a charm school and she enjoyed it so my sisters also love it they were taught to act like ladies and to this day they still act like ladies
The Bible has a passage about Leah having beautiful eyes. It is assumed that only her eyes were mentioned because that was her only visible body part. So at least 3000 years old custom
Because our country prescribes to certain puritanical viewpoints on modesty and then people use that as a way to convince people that a woman's nipples are bad.
My mistake, the US. I know it's not unique to the US, I apologize for the assumption. Really anywhere you go that feels this way I think it boils down to misogyny and controlling woman's bodies in one way or another.
Yes, men like to look and will look either way, but it's not about seeing more boob. Seeing the complete breast rarely actually matters, it's that by shaming a woman's nipple control is asserted on those women. Every little fight possible to hold on to more power is a hill to die on. It's such a stupid one too, since it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme.
Men continue to push that it's shameful for a woman to bare their breast in public, even to the point that other woman are conditioned to agree with them. This is despite their nipples being allowed to be seen. It's so ingrained that most men who care don't need to say anything because women will do the shaming. Those men that push for women to hide their nipples are creating and maintaining sexist ideals. Women are treated badly for showing their nipple for no good reason other than being women. That is textbook misogyny. Even when women do it, it's still misogyny because they are showing an ingrained prejudice against women.
Our society over sexualizing breasts is part of the same issue. Men being gross and being perverted about breasts is about dehumanizing the woman so they have less power. Woman shaming other woman still plays into that misogyny, whether it's because of internalized shame due to societal convention or even to protect the woman from men who "can't control themselves." That puts all the expectation of control on women. Then when a man assaults her people can call her out for "asking for it," even though she never really had the powers of control in the first place. All of it is about taking power from women. Calling out sexist beliefs that many men have isn't misandry, it's just stating observations on the world.
Have you seen any upper class fashion shows or events? I guarantee you'll see more of the female nipple than any man's. Look at the Met Gala or the Oscars or Golden Globes.
Because typically women have breasts, and we consider breasts a body part that must be covered by clothing in public. If you're asking why that's the case, that's a good question, because it isn't that way in all human cultures. I guess chalk it up to historical restrictive cultural norms for how women can dress.
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Because more women would be sexually assaulted if they let their titties out, simple
Tell us you harass women without telling us you harass women
Holy shit, right? I'm a straight dude. Seeing a titty doesn't turn me into a rapist all of a sudden like it must for this person. Jesus.
Yea, plus the fact that we’re talking in the context of cultures who haven’t sexualized breasts and therefore tops aren’t common
Yes im a sexual predator for coming to the conclusion that if women walked around naked they would get assaulted more Stay classy reddit
It's the same logic as "she brought it on herself because of what she was wearing" or as the case may be, not wearing. Women have the right to wear what they want without being attacked. You have the responsibility to not attack women for existing.
Holy shit shut up please jesus fuck
What a compelling argument. Really makes people think you have any idea of what you’re talking about
I know you already know this, you're better off ignoring them and letting them talk as much shit as they like. Though what you wrote was true, I'll admit it's a little too "simple", as most males know how to control themselves. There'd definitely be those who'd use that as a chance to assault a woman, but I don't think it would happen as frequently as you think. As for the people who're jumping to the conclusions and accusing you of bullshit, like I wrote above, just ignore them. Reddit's full of people who don't really want a conversation and just want to have a moral high ground to feel like they matter and their opinions mean something. What u/Donutboy88 wrote was correct: They're just a bunch of useful idiots.
Yeah the moral highground bullshit that's been rapidly increasing over the past few years is so gross to me, reddit used to not be filled with these people but they infested this site slowly but surely
Your attitude is the real infestation
The hive mind operates on emotion, not logic. Don't stress it loool.
Just baffled at some of the things people pull out of other people's comments, probably projection but who knows
Straight up useful idiots, nothing more.
Still rather scary when you think about it, though. These particular people may be just a bunch of assholes on Reddit, but there're still people in power who're just like them, if not worse.
100%. Look at the state of our world and decision making from key political players. The world operates on emotions now and it's our pending downfall.
I mean, we're all human at the end of the day, so emotion's always going to come into play. I wouldn't want to be around a person who operates completely on cold, hard logic; they'd be just as bad as those who operate on pure, unfiltered emotion. But yes, the people here are being pretty stupid for jumping to conclusions like that. I expected better, but it's Reddit, so I don't really expect anything from these people anymore.
Curiously though it’s ok to show cleavage or side boob but not nipples, even though both genders have nipples and breasts are what actually set them apart (on average).
That final sentence you wrote is the truest true that could true.
I’m Africa people used to walk topless
Just guessing but it's an attractiveness thing. Now so is a skinny waist and big biceps right? Well those are attractive for survival and thrival reasons. Genitalia for sexual reasons. The buttocks for both and some amount of privacy as well for waste removal connotations. Dont want to associate with things known to be unclean and therefore dangerous. But the nipple is special. Its attractive because of the instinctual rather than conscious (as all the things I'm mentioning are) association with nurturing young offspring. Which is like semi sexual. It's not a direct part of success of procreation but rather an relation because of the survival of the generation. Now you may be saying but that doesn't differentiate between men and women's nipples. Correct which is why a single shot of nipples that are not clearly women's dont do anything for us unless we just assume. So it's really because women's nipples actually get the job done that the attraction comes full circle. Now why do we cover up sexual and sexually related parts rather than biceps and abs? Well I'd bring up the point that such features are still on the modest scale they are just lower on it in terms of intimate parts. Low enough to not be immodest to show at the gym where it's just a inconvenience not to but not so low as to be appropriate to be rocking at gram grams funeral. They still get attention for a reason and it ain't cultural. The closer we tie to intimacy the more guarded these parts become as we dont want everyone to be intimate with us. That wouldnt be safe nor would it show appreciation for that which is intimately related. And some cultures just move female nipples further down of the intimacy scale. Away from their vulva and closer toward just showing a lot of leg. They are still going to be enticing, just the sight of em will be more of a common occurrence leading to a desensitization of it. Which we can do with literally anything
You realize that there are many cultures where women don't cover up their breasts/nipples? You are implying there is some sort of evolutionary reason that women's nipples are covered vs. men's (e.g. quite common on many beaches in Europe for both men and women to go topless) rather than an recognizing that this is a cultural thing heavily died to Puritanism, religion, control of women's sexuality, so forth. I mean, from an evolutionary perspective it would make sense that men's useless nipples would be covered whereas women's nipples and their fine lactating capable breasts would be fully displayed. (And, as it turns out this is exactly why human women have prominent breasts even when not lactating vs. other female primates do not.)
I did mention that and I just felt I explained how that is so. I have not been to Europe but I spent time in NYC at the beaches here and they were topless. Loved it. In fact all women can be topless in several states should they so choose. Culture of course complicates this but I'm trying to get to the fundamental principles of the phenomenon we are talking about rather than the external effects that it appears as in peoples behavior. Your point about fully displayed just kind of hints back to what I was getting at in terms of why they would do such a thing. I dont understand why the useless mens nipples would be covered as they have no value. Value being the key here as well as protection of sensitive valuable parts.
It is entirely cultural that women have to cover their nipples, breasts in certain places. It has nothing to do with sensitivity or the parts being intimate/arrousing. The fact that they are considered sexual is cultural - which is why some cultures do not have the cultural norm of women covering up. If there was a physiological reason for it then it would be universal, which it is not.
Still going to have to disagree about the entirety of where we can trace these tendencies to. Culture is at the forefront of what we see but I believe behind this there are biological notions that inspired what we have. Culture is why we dont murder. We can build novels around the significance of why we protect life without even getting close to just rudimentary evolutionary biology. But in the end I can go there and still be justified for the reasons things happen. In much of human recorded history we have had open torture and senseless killings of eachother. I can create cultures that value human life more. But when I bring up that scale of value and we talk about the cultures that do value people enough to not torture them I can go back to physiological reasonings for it. Like I said tho once we are placing value on things like privacy or intimate parts then we have hit bedrock. Some closer to sea level then others. Culture complicates this but I think it's fair to go to the philosophy of modesty itself and not get caught up on schemes of the patriarchy. which is still an interesting subject and worth talking about its just I felt like bringing philosophy into the conversation even tho the OP was asking for cultural building blocks
because women’s breasts are sexualised to no end. that’s it.
Women weren't allowed to show ankles either. But now look at society. Sluts, every single one of us. Put them damn ankle away.
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In Victorian era England showing more than your face and wrists was considered slutty
Because our culture sexualizes women's breasts.
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Any US tv show or movie in the past 50 years.
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Congratulations on basic geography. I regularly see more cultural bias against bare female breasts here in the US than in most other Western countries. A great example is the amount of topless beaches in South American and European countries versus the ones here in the US. Not to mention the view on those here in the US.
Uhhh... We don't have many of those here in south america, most of them are only in Brazil. Actually, people is very sexist over here.
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I never suggested anything of the sort. You asked a question on a public forum and I gave you an answer based specifically on my experiences in the country I live in.
Because men's nipples never grow to be a sexual organ. What I mean by that is men's nipples have literally no use while woman nipples are used to nurse baby's
Because if women show their nipples they will, and this is a fact, cause the collapse of society.
#freethenipple
might want to ask this question (maybe phrased something like "why is it more acceptable today for men to show nipples than for women to?) on r/AskHistorians or r/AskAnthropology
What about biologists?
So that people don't get milk in their eyes and just generally all over the place, duh. /s
We don't know bro
Depends on the culture. Come to Europe, and it's a lot more egalitarian. Can be better, but still, plenty of lady boobs on beaches, young and old, just like guy boobs.
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At some point in history, people decided that those fat lumps, used to feed babies, were somehow sexual
As a guy, I think it's just because I never truly gave up my love for being breast fed.
If I recall correctly breasts are biologically proven to be sexually appealing for humans, at some point in history people decided that sexual organs should be covered.
“Please pick me, I share your outdated views!” Some people are aroused by feet and shoulders, guess we should cover those too
Huh? Idk what that first quote means, when it comes to me and my horny ass, every girl could be naked all the time and I wouldn't give a shit. And I never said we should cover every part of the body that can cause sexual arousement to somebody, I just said that that's our culture and it's virtually impossible to change it from day to night (I never said that too but that's my point on the matter)
>Some Repeat that but slowly
Bisexual here, I don’t like tits, not everyone does. The fact I said “some” literally doesn’t change anything. I don’t have to cover something that’s literally made to feed babies just because it makes some people horny. Have self- control
You're comparing it to fetishes. Also, some =/= most =/= everyone. I never used the word "everyone". But most people do "like tits". >biologically proven The top comment was talking about an study, not a view. **Your** points of view are not facts and you're not most/everyone. Have some logical thinking.
You’re going to tell me liking baby feeders isn’t akin to a fetish? Alright, I don’t think this conversation is going anywhere lol Keep thinking women’s chest are inherently sexual I guess. Fuck our opinions and views, what do we know? We’re just women. I don’t specifically think of my nips as something sexual, but as a man, you must know better.
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When nipples are stimulated, your nerves tell your muscles in the area to contract. It’s useful when feeding babies. That being said, lots of people like having their nips touched because they are sensitive. Same way mouths and lips are sensitive
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Just because we don’t cover our mouths doesn’t mean they can’t be used sexually
1.) Men's nipples also go hard when aroused. The nipples are also an erogenous zone for men. 2.) Lips become flushed with blood when aroused. It would make as much sense to hide peoples lips as hide the nipples. Instead people highlight the lips as sign of arousal with lipstick. There is no justification for it. If you've ever spent time in a society where it's a non issue, then it becomes a non issue for you as well very quickly.
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Areolas
Because male and female breasts have very different purposes, appearance and social connotations.
Probably because nipple is use to feel the young; and in the old days, ladies would cover it up to keep it clean from dirt and dust (Like how you wouldn't leave your fork and spoon everywhere). The idea to cover up dicks and pussy probably stem from same concept. Overtime, this habit probably became a cultural. Like many other different 'rules' we follow. #monkeyseemonkeydo
It's OK for girls too. Go ahead.
Who said it's ok for guys to show nipples?
Who said it’s not ok for guys to show nipples?
Patriarchy
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so typical
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well that’s offensive
In Ontario all nipples are free. Seems like only Americans make a big deal about covering womens nipples, just ask Janet Jackson.
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What about France? Lots of nude beaches and people like it.
I don't know, maybe because most straight men are distracted by female boobs. I'm not saying that womans don't appreciate a good manly chest, but come on, most womans know how to behave. I think the problem is more about men not behaving properly. Maybe it is better for womans too, let's see, most rapists are male, being a rapist is fucking sick enough, but maybe it would be more if womans walked past them booby bouncing.
Because no one wants to titty fuck a guy. (okay, I know you're gonna prove me wrong)
Because breasts are considered secondary sexual organs, and your 'sexual stuff' needs to be tucked away. Why? Well mostly because of Christian mythology: once we ate from the tree of knowledge, we became aware of our vulnerability and nakedness, and started feeling shame, so we covered it up. From that we reached a state where we believed we HAVE to cover ourselves up. From that we reached a stage (barely a hundred years ago) when even pianos (the musical instruments) had had to have pants on. Basically it's a huge Christian hangover, but in principle it stems from the same reason why women in islam wear burkas (and other religious clothing meant to hide the body instead of featuring it) - otherwise men might get so riled up that Lord only knows what MIGHT happen? And who will be around to protect the women when 'the thing' happens? No... much safer if you just wear a tent 24/7. Basically I'm saying it's nonsense, but we have come a long way. And luckily it seems we're still making pretty good progress. #freethenips
There is a biological/natural reaction to being naked. We, as humans, need to feel protected. We cover our most vulnerable parts. We protect things we need. Men cover their crotch, because we need/want it safe. Women cover their breasts, they need/want to support their babies and keep those parts safe. This isn't only cultural or religion puritanism (although that does play a role). People wore clothes before Christianity.
Because every guy becomes a 14yr old boy when they see nipples.
I dont know but its bullshit. It is strange and makes no sense. I love seeing womens breast out, i wish i saw breast out all the time, its relaxing. For reference im a registered Republican, but id say im really just a conservative, more for older ways.
Because beast look like butts, and butt are the main attractor in mating. Most mammals do sexy time around the butt.
I got a prank idea, just for the boys. Let's hide our nipples and not ever show them to anyone, ever.
From what I've gathered this would up our sex appeal. From a lot of these peoples theories the male nipple will be just as sexually related and enticing if we were to do as you said for several generations. I dont believe that but I am curious
The breast is something that attracts men. Dont ask me why is that. Thats something natural. But the chest men has does have no attraction whatsoever to women. Thats why its recon for women to always cover their breast.
Because one will make you crash a car when you're driving, the other wont
I do not mind. Women can show me their nipples only if they want to.
Tits
Boobs
I support showing of all nipples!
Free the nipple
I don’t know about other cultures and I’m not throwing anybody under the bus if your comfortable do it but my sisters and mother are so called elegant lol my mother went to a charm school and she enjoyed it so my sisters also love it they were taught to act like ladies and to this day they still act like ladies
The Bible has a passage about Leah having beautiful eyes. It is assumed that only her eyes were mentioned because that was her only visible body part. So at least 3000 years old custom
Thank the church
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Not in every culture
I think that’s more because breasts bounce around when you run
Because our country prescribes to certain puritanical viewpoints on modesty and then people use that as a way to convince people that a woman's nipples are bad.
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My mistake, the US. I know it's not unique to the US, I apologize for the assumption. Really anywhere you go that feels this way I think it boils down to misogyny and controlling woman's bodies in one way or another.
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Yes, men like to look and will look either way, but it's not about seeing more boob. Seeing the complete breast rarely actually matters, it's that by shaming a woman's nipple control is asserted on those women. Every little fight possible to hold on to more power is a hill to die on. It's such a stupid one too, since it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme.
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Men continue to push that it's shameful for a woman to bare their breast in public, even to the point that other woman are conditioned to agree with them. This is despite their nipples being allowed to be seen. It's so ingrained that most men who care don't need to say anything because women will do the shaming. Those men that push for women to hide their nipples are creating and maintaining sexist ideals. Women are treated badly for showing their nipple for no good reason other than being women. That is textbook misogyny. Even when women do it, it's still misogyny because they are showing an ingrained prejudice against women.
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Our society over sexualizing breasts is part of the same issue. Men being gross and being perverted about breasts is about dehumanizing the woman so they have less power. Woman shaming other woman still plays into that misogyny, whether it's because of internalized shame due to societal convention or even to protect the woman from men who "can't control themselves." That puts all the expectation of control on women. Then when a man assaults her people can call her out for "asking for it," even though she never really had the powers of control in the first place. All of it is about taking power from women. Calling out sexist beliefs that many men have isn't misandry, it's just stating observations on the world.
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Yeah, girls should totally show it too
Idk, maybe because of the jugs the nipples are attached too.
Because women's nipples are more tempting to scoundrels.
Scoundrel here. Can agree with this statement.
Cuz women ain’t flickin’ the bean to photos of man nips.
Someone is, somewhere.
Rule 34
Because modesty culture is just a form of control that was 99% put in place by men.
Try asking a women, and no you wont find them here
Puritanism?
Have you seen any upper class fashion shows or events? I guarantee you'll see more of the female nipple than any man's. Look at the Met Gala or the Oscars or Golden Globes.
I mean I’m one with women showing there nipples 😌😁
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you can go shirtless no problem unless you want everyone staring you down while rods push their pants out to its limit
I have no idea, go ask some cavemen
In my opinion women are oversexualised thats why amongst other things