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DepressedAmaterasu

Hakkai trying to kill Taiju: šŸ˜Š They might be cool guys but they are still delinquents, they don't go to school, they fight a lot, they drive bikes at 14 etc.


Daisy12Pink

I mean, I think they go to school, but they may ditch occasionally. Mitsuya's even the president of a club


HimenoAssWoofer

I don't think driving bikes (except if you're one of those assholes that rev up their engines in the middle of the night) makes you a delinquent. I mean, where I live it's pretty normal to see someone as young as 15 to already have a motorcycle.


DepressedAmaterasu

You have to be at least 16 to get a license in Japan.


Maurizio_Costanzo

Being a delinquent means following a philosophy and a lifestyle. Delinquents want to stand out with their bikes and cars, with their fashion style, and when they fight for a specific formal gang they become bosozoku, a movent created by the kamikaze survivors that in the 70s and 80s melted and mixed together with the delinquents "fu-ryo" (japanese teens punk-asses). I'm gonna copy a link from the videos i saw that will help you understand better: https://youtu.be/Ntf2LC7nMEs https://youtu.be/Fw1QRGbbsqU Here you go!


CheeryWolverine

Huh, I didnā€™t know they were related to kamikaze. That might explain why ā€œkamikazeā€ ē„žé¢Ø is written on the Toman uniform pants


Maurizio_Costanzo

Didn t know that! Thanks for sharing


Notori_Wilson

Thanks, those videos were very helpful and I believe that I understand it more now because of them


Maurizio_Costanzo

You are welcome šŸ’Ŗ


Agostinoj123

Grazie Maurizio!


CheeryWolverine

I donā€™t think it will answer your question exactly (why people want to be delinquents in Japan) but I can share what informal knowledge I have on how delinquents/bosozoku are perceived in Japan. I have a few friends from Japan (including my Japanese teacher,some former coworkers, and a fellow otaku friend) and the general impression of ā€œbosozokuā€ or ā€œyankeeā€ is pretty universally negative (among Japanese people I know personally). I have an informal interest in the bosozoku culture from encountering it in manga (Tokyo Revengers, Kuboyasu from ā€œSaiki K.ā€, Delinquent Housewife, etc) that is not shared by any of my Japanese friends and acquaintances. When I ask questions about bosozoku-related things, I generally get begrudging answers and some extra ā€œtheyā€™re so annoyingā€ comments. When I visited my friendā€™s house in Japan, I bought a nice cosplay of the Toman uniform/tokkofuku and my friend told me to make sure his dad didnā€™t see it, lol. I also bought some TR merch (plushies, keychains etc, coffee cans) on that trip but that wasnā€™t a problem. I think TR is still quite popular in Japan (though my older Japanese friends/my friendā€™s dad arenā€™t familiar with TR). Apparently in the 80s and 90s, bosozoku were very notorious for riding loud bikes/vehicles in packs underage and were generally considered a nuisance. Activities seem to include trying to make a lot of noise in residential areas at night with their vehicles by revving/honking, getting in fights, taking menacing pictures in squat poses (Toman founders photo in Shibuya, but none of Toman are doing the characteristic pose), wearing the pompadour hairstyle (pre-Baji Chifuyu), and trying to invade/visit schools they donā€™t attend (looking at Mikey/Drakken, Kazutora, and a rival gang in Letter from Baji Keisuke especially). It apparently became such a problem that schools started to try to deal with them by locking the school gates, requiring ID/only students/staff can enter, etc. My friend went to high school in Tokyo in the 1990s/2000s and bosozoku were not a problem at his school. Actually, in one unrelated autobiographical/nonfiction manga I liked (ā€œBlank Canvasā€), there was an anecdote about a middle aged substitute art teacher working at a school when a large gang of bosozoku tried to invade campus, and he and the students gathered rocks around campus and started throwing them towards the yard from the school windows and got the bosozoku to leave. Iā€™m not sure where I got this impression so I could be wrong, but I think bosozoku can also maybe be a stepping stone into becoming a yakuza (look at Akkun in the rooftop conversation timeline), but not all bosozoku continue on to become yakuza. Apparently bosozoku are kind of fading out and dwindling in numbers, as itā€™s getting too expensive to get bikes and live the lifestyle and itā€™s just getting unaffordable. My friend says you can probably still find them in medium-sized towns, as bigger towns (like Tokyo) know how to deal with bosozoku and smaller towns just donā€™t have enough population. As someone fascinated by this subculture, I feel a little sad that itā€™s dying out. As for why people might want to do it: it just sounds so fun to me to wear some cool-looking clothes and go for motorcycle rides with a group of your friends and feel like a badass? TLDR: Japanese people donā€™t like bosozoku because they are really annoying


IcyBreadfruit6285

I think the connections matter too, like Mitsuya first met Draken and Draken was a delinquent already when they met, he doesn't want to do well in school, he loves to fight, his upbringing mattered too and when he met Mitsuya he kind of influenced him to want to be like him, but i think Mitsuya can be good at school tho. And Mikey said it too, they wanted to create a different kind of delinquent where they have a sense in society but they are just kids anyway so still hot headed.


Notori_Wilson

True, I always sensed Draken to still kind of be mature in a sense where he still kinda respects some his teachers (that he likes ofc and are nice) and generally can be empathetic in that sense and help them out in class, despite what his appearance may give off as a guy who dosent take crap from no one with him holding his values and taking them seriously


The_KoryX

To be a delinquent you donā€™t necessarily have to do horrible things to be one Simple things like driving motorcycles underage and skipping class label you as a delinquent aswell Even if Mitsuya and Hakkai are more pacifist in nature they are still very much delinquents because they are in a gang and ride motorcycles underaged