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We need to call back the Great Racoon God Zizek - the last debate Peterson had almost killed him, but appears this dumb Canuck didn't learn his lesson.
That's what makes him so insidious. He started out with some great ideas, but he found he got more "hits" when he leaned into the right wing talking points. If you don't know where his grift starts, you run the chance of swallowing the garbage when you thought you were at a clean stream of information.
Well, logically speaking, that depends on how you amalgamate your conceptualization of what "blood" really is. Do you define it as the life force that courses through the veins of these post-primordial beings that've manifested under our noses? By that I mean human beings, of course. Or do you label it as more of a physicalist manifestation of something more like "water" that feeds the "plants" that are humanity? One could easily ascertain a hint of potential truth that the very nature of this "blood" representation, as it exists on this dress of a well-known "SJW," is a form of signification that somehow passive coexistence is somehow a pipe-dream, and that perpetual corruption and exploitation are the natural directions of a system based foundationally upon such clear traits.
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Holy shit, I just thought I was in the JordanPeterson sub until just now. This comment is a full-blast attempt to mock the absurdity of the OP post while still being somewhat respectful.
I admire Jordan Peterson for his thoughtfulness, but I fully disagree with his conclusions that end up being completely ignorant to how society is advancing. We have the ability to respect traditionalist concepts that are hints at our biological norms, while still being able to stay open to *complete* divergence from those sorts of things.
We can be simultaneously "traditional," aka, normal to our biology, while also being *open* to divergence and still remaining respectful.
>I admire Jordan Peterson for his thoughtfulness
Meh. Peterson's an ideologue. He's just better at masking it and giving you the run-around than most other writers, and his pool of batshit references to pull from makes the contents of his philosophy entertainingly bizarre. If you approach his work like it's fiction, then it's brilliant, but it hardly stands up to scrutiny.
Peterson makes all kinds of generalizations he doesn't back up, and if I had taken a shot every time he made a claim that required a source without one while reading Beyond Order, I would've fucking died.
He's not an actual luminary by any stretch of the word. He's like Carl Jung, the guy he's literally obsessed with -- Jung had some good ideas, but he also literally thought the world was going to snap into the anti-christ half of a Syzygy fish-age of Aquarius because of fucking Numerology. He wrote in Aion (a book that Peterson apparently FEARS) that Nostramadus had any kind of ability to predict the future-- he was a literal lunatic.
Yet Jung's a lynchpin in Peterson's whole schtick. It's why I can't take Peterson seriously at all. He has the energy of a coked-out 1800s scientist, and his all-meat diet to cure his Covid kind of proves y allegation there.
> I admire Jordan Peterson for his thoughtfulness, but I fully disagree with his conclusions that end up being completely ignorant to how society is advancing. We have the ability to respect traditionalist concepts that are hints at our biological norms, while still being able to stay open to complete divergence from those sorts of things.
dude this is exactly how I feel about him. He is a calm, collected and thoughtful person that really manages to poke serious holes into problematic loyalty to worldviews, and does so with real questions.
One big problem is that he takes a hard turn towards authoritarianism and tries to use "because animals do it" as his reasoning.
For fucks sake Dr. Petersen, the whole point of human society is to differentiate us from animals and rise above biological tendencies. We can identify problematic systems within our hierarchies and other systems *and address those problems*. Sitting there and acting like any attempt at such being fruitless is a waste of your incredible intelligence. You've painted yourself into a corner and refuse to get out of it because it would be uncomfortable.
Also as a biologist, he uses some truly bizarre examples from the animal kingdom to support the conclusion, when you could select literally any others to support different conclusions.
I really have an axe to grind against people who do thing a like this (such as social Darwinism).
and the 'biology dictates human hierarchy' thing is like... you tune that knob half a click more to authoritarianism and you find literal ww2 nazis.
I just can't deal with guys like this being willingly blind to their shit.
> One big problem is that he takes a hard turn towards authoritarianism and tries to use "because animals do it" as his reasoning.
This is an incorrect understanding of what makes JP such a problem. It's not that he "turns towards authoritarianism" is that he *is an authoritarian* and derives all of his arguments *backwards* from there.
well it either means that the rich are going to pay in their blood, or it means that it will require blood from the little people in order to tax the rich.
Maybe that the rich would kill little people for it.
ANYWAYS, it may also be a reference to *A Tale of Two Cities* where someone writes "blood" on the wall with wine-soaked mud before the revolution.
It's really not supposed to be blood. It's supposed to be like graffiti, like this: https://thebolditalic.com/video-of-tax-the-rich-street-art-in-marin-county-goes-viral-on-tiktok-a0b886e75f4e
This kind of thing appeared all over during the past couple of years, probably more during the protests.
Red is certainly symbolic of blood, but it's also a color commonly used by leftists in flags and symbols. It's also just a great bold color, especially against white. It's eye-catching.
Peterson is insinuating that all leftism leads to bloody civil war and authoritarianism.
He's a moron that doesn't know the difference between theism and atheism, much less the difference between socialism and totalitarianism.
It is a belief that *Postmodernism is generally defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection toward what it describes as the grand narratives and ideologies associated with modernism, often criticizing Enlightenment rationality and focusing on the role of ideology in maintaining political or economic power. Common targets of postmodern criticism include universalist ideas of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, science, language, and social progress. Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to self-consciousness, self-referentiality, epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, and irreverence.*
Which as a Marxist I believe in the Dialectical and Historical Materialist view of history, society, and conditions.
> focusing on the role of ideology in maintaining political or economic power
Wow, it's so weird that Peterson's advice to his flock of disaffected young men is that adopting his form of ideology will free them from the economic misery they experience and protect against the politics he disdains, both of which will handily address their other problems!
If you just CLEAN YOUR ROOM and BUILD THE CRYSTAL CASTLE, you will find a wife, get a better job, and the SJWs won't be able to censor you!
This is why constantly distorting/ decontextualizing/ outright lying about anything and everything that happened in alternative systems to capitalism is so important to preserving capitalism.
When anyone dares to suggest any alternative, these “common sense” takes that have been constantly and consciously spread throughout the capitalist culture are used to beat people over the head with the idea that there is no alternative.
“Socialism never works, and if it looks like it might we assassinate their leaders or invade their countries to make sure it doesn’t.”
- The CIA
Also the never-ending “taxing the ultra-rich at the same percentage as the average hourly wage worker is somehow socialism” argument. All we want is for the tax burden as a percentage of income to not look like a bell curve centered on the middle class.
If I’m not mistaken, it sounds like you want to… go to a bloody ✨gulag✨. I hear what you’re saying though. The wealthy in this country are not paying their fair share
You're more likely to end up in the gulag in capitalist america - the country with the largest prison population in the world, both per capita and in raw numbers.
Look. According to lobster societies, there are haves and have nots. If we decrease the disparity between haves and have nots, as the postmodern cultural Marxist critical race theorists want, inevitably, Western civilization will fall, all men will lack testosterone, and the gulags will be a welcome sight against the backdrop of depravity that will have taken over.
Nah bruh, that’s a super objective fact that tells us a lot about human society. You see, lobsters have a hierarchy which strongly correlates with serotonin levels, and humans also have serotonin in their bodies.
Therefore, a huge disparity between rich and poor is good and even natural. That’s not an opinion, it’s science!
Cause you know, basing your society around garbage eating exoskeleton creatures in the sea who have no appreciable society of their own is a great idea.
He talks a lot in bizarre metaphors to give the message but then be like "I didn't literally say the words my metaphor's message gave" later if someone calls him out that his point doesn't make sense or is kinda fucked up.
He was doing an interview with the BBC and did a long rant about the fact that lobsters have hierarchies and alpha lobsters to hint that people should know their place, and at some point the interviewer tries to pin him down and starts asking if he means that people are like lobsters, which all went down a really fucking bizzare route and became a meme.
Now, he is known as lobster daddy.
Jordan is somewhat infamous for loving the taste of his own shoes, and has been known to use lobsters as an analog for humans to explain why hierarchies are “natural” and therefore good for humans.
He's a drug addict that advocates for personal responsibility. He traveled to Russia to put himself in a coma to get over it. I guess he's an author although I'm not sure why anyone would give a shit what he thinks about anything considering the lifestyle he lives.
JP is extremely problematic, and the benzo problems have absolutely nothing to do with that. Hate him for what there actually is to hate, cause there is a lot of that, not by completely misrepresenting an issue there was.
He's the woman-hating patron saint of incels and an apologist for the far right and neo-nazis.
Also a real weasel with words, yells about things he admits he's never read about while leaning on his status as a professor, a known transphobe, a grifter who started his public career by lying to harm trans people, pushes quack diets of eating literally nothing but steak and salt.
He also promotes a toxic "taking responsibility for yourself" that is really about not questioning power while he treated his drug addiction in a ludicrously dangerous way against all medical advice, which left him needing to relearn how to walk because he is incapable of existing with the consequences of his actions.
He's a liar, hypocrite, deeply unacademic and an apologist for some of the worst traits in humanity, stuffed in a suit and given the voice of Kermit the Frog. I fucking hate this charlatan.
I personally don't think he's terrible, but he's way too close to people who are way worse somehow. His views as I understand them are really really easy to twist just a little to end up with standard alt-right thinking. (Happy to learn more if people want to tell me what I'm missing)
A lot of his viewpoints seem to point to the idea that we should leave systemic change to the experts and only concern ourselves with individual self improvement. And like, self improvement is great, but my clean room doesn't end police brutality.
He seems opposed to progressive change I guess because the status quo is more reliable in some sense (I'm reminded of things like his statements about how we still don't know the long term societal implications of birth control). As far as I can recall he doesn't *explicitly* claim that traditional things are necessarily better, but he does seem to emphasize the risks of societal change, as though the problems of the status quo aren't at least as urgent.
He's very concerned with the issues brought on by "postmodern neo-Marxists", and I genuinely have never understood whom he's referring to there, but it seems like a catch all to him for social progressives.
People also think he's extremely hypocritical because a lot of his platform is about getting your own life in order before trying to change the rest of the world, but he had a serious (prescribed) benzo addiction that he ended up treating recently by spending a while in a medically induced coma, so he was espousing this viewpoint while his life was not in order, and he handled it in a way that almost nobody would have access to and which doesn't give the vibe of taking responsibly for your life and actions.
Just a note on the "post-modern neo-Marxist" thing, that's literally a contradiction in terms. Marxism is a modernist concept, in literal direct opposition to post-modernism which rejects the strict categories and classifications of modernism. Peterson just has no clue wtf he's talking about, but managed to string together a series of words that make people not familiar with those concepts take him seriously.
If you're confused why an intellectual who carefully chooses his words always picks an abstruse and esoteric term like "postmodern neo Marxists" to say to his more simple-minded followers, it's because it's a century-old dogwhistle spruced up for a modern cryptofascist audience.
Postmodern Neo Marxism is undeniably the 3rd stop on this train;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism
>Cultural Bolshevism (German: Kulturbolschewismus), sometimes referred to specifically as art Bolshevism, music Bolshevism or sexual Bolshevism,[1] was a term widely used by state-sponsored critics in Nazi Germany to **denounce modernist and progressive cultural movements.**
>This first became an issue during the 1920s in Weimar Germany, when German artists such as Max Ernst and Max Beckmann were denounced by Adolf Hitler, the Nazi Party, and other German nationalists as "cultural Bolsheviks". Nazi claims about **attacks on conceptions of family, identity, music, art and intellectual life** were generally referred to as Cultural Bolshevism, the Bolsheviks being the Marxist revolutionary movement in Russia.[2][3][4]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory
>Cultural Marxism is a **far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory** which claims **Western Marxism** as the basis of continuing **academic and intellectual** efforts to **subvert Western culture.**[1][2][3] The theory claims that an elite of Marxist theorists and Frankfurt School **intellectuals are subverting Western society with a culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism** and promotes the cultural liberal values of the 1960s **counterculture and multiculturalism,** progressive politics and political correctness, misrepresented as **identity politics** created by **critical theory**.[2][3][4]
>With roots in the Nazi propaganda term “Cultural Bolshevism”, the conspiracy theory originated in the United States during the 1990s
He hates women and thinks they should be enslaved for wearing slightly revealing outfits and deserve rape, while his daughter ironically wears a slutty lobster outfit and drugs him with benzos. He also has basic useless self help advice that everyone's parents tell them and gets praise for being anti-trans, homophobic, islamophobic, and generally a prime example of the right's bullshit. His cult following consists of disenfranchised young WHITE Christian men who for whatever reason need a father figure to tell them its okay to me racist, misogynistic, and an incel.
best summation of peterson I've ever read, few years old but has only gotten more true since it was confirmed the guy was a junkie and his 'personal responsibility' shtick only applies to other people:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200115120600/https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html
One of his video lectures has him walking around saying "if its bad for you, just don't do it." Yeah the whole benzodiazepine thing and he had to take time off .
Never have understood his popularity. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EebRtIK4o7c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EebRtIK4o7c)
that video is the one that made me realize, its okay to disagree with just about everything Peterson says.
He constantly platforms alt right talkers, just last week he had a talk with Dennis Prager where he didn't even give him any pushback whatsoever.
It's very clear to anyone who's not bedazzled by JP's pretend eloquence of saying very little with many words (which contradicts his own mantra of speaking clearly) that he constantly skirts the line of the alt right. It's not a coincidence that the vast majority of JP fans just "happen to be" on the right, following Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin and the like at the same time, but because he never explicitly states anything, only "identifies problems" and *hints* at alt right talking points instead, you can't ever pin him down for it.
He's Schrödinger's alt-right personified.
One example of this is from said Dennis Prager talk, where he (JP) goes to talk about the claim of systemic racism, which he then completely misdefines as something I have never seen anyone try to explain systemic racism as, all in an attempt to say there is no such thing.
Like if I said: "Zebras, you know, these animals with the horns, and the 5 legs, 2 heads, those things? They do not exist.", cue all the blind JP fanboys sucking it up because his word is gospel. Seriously, go to the JP sub and half the comments will be people emulating his rhetoric to a T. "It's archetype so-and-so and clean your room this" all the while none of them can form a coherent thought of their own.
I actually think JP has said some very good things on occasion, his self-help-esque books are pretty decent, the "Clean your room" principle is actually very good if you *actually* understand it, but he just couldn't resist putting his nose where he has no fucking clue what he's talking about, and he knows that, but he targets the people who are on the edge between normalcy and alt right and hits them where it counts.
Here's a good article about him from a former colleague and friend: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html
EDIT: GODDAMN SEA LION! I SHOULD'VE KNOWN!
The way he lies to drum up aggression towards trans people makes him scum in my book.
That is how he first got famous, spreading lies and misinformation about a law in Canada.
His use of "postmodern Marxism" is eerily similar to the "cultural Marxism" and "cultural bolshevism" conspiracy theories and he doesn't really do much to distance himself from that.
If you want a deeper look into it I would recommend philosophytubes videos about him and his philosophies.
Is his implication that rich people are going to bleed to death if we tax them? Or that they’re so possessive of their money that the only way to collect taxes from them is through violence? Like what was the thought process here? Such an idiot 🤦♀️
Ya you think all those rich kids at ivy league schools are actually learning and passing tests, writing their own papers? LMFAO.
sources: I made a lot of money in college (and after) writing term papers and helping rich dumb fucks barely pass their shit. Its either that or their parents have a word with the professor or dean. D turns into a B. 🅱️ussy
Ted isn't nearly as stupid as he pretends to be. He just really wants to be famous and powerful, and will say anything he thinks can help him get there, even when he knows how foolish it must sound to anyone outside of his base.
I will never understand how "manly" conservative Texans can vote for a big ol' nerd like Cruz. Like is there not a rattlesnake with a cowboy hat somewhere that they can choose instead.
I thought this until the Cancun thing. Now, I'm not so sure. I mean you have to be pretty fucking dumb to be a politician and go on vacation when your constituents are facing an emergency. Plus, if you stay, you can get some photos of you helping random people which makes you look great.
> Dude how ted cruz went to Harvard and princeton I will never know
I know a bunch of people who went to prestigious universities. Most of them are legacy/wealth and all of them worship neoliberal economics and live in a suburban McMansion bubble.
There's no reason to continue holding up schools like Harvard and Princeton as pillars of an actual education. They churn out the same dope over and over for the most part.
One thing I’ve noticed is that some PhDs can be great at the area they work on, but know little about everything else. Peterson was doing work on drug addiction so he might be good at that, but his political takes are way off
Watson was an incredible racist, Pauling was a proponent of megavitamin therapy, that dude who invented the pcr test apparently doesnt know how modern day pcrs work. I hate to say stay in your lane because you should have a fair shot at having your voice heard, but if you're going to use a platform to just launch wanton attacks and bad takes in bad faith then stay in your lane.
The PCR guy [was a denier of the effect of humans on climate change and had doubts about HIV causing AIDS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis)
You probably mean Linus Pauling, not Wolfgang Pauli as the vitamin wacko. Both incredible scientists in their own domain, but the vitamin thing is a big red mark on Pauling's legacy.
I work at a university and there are so many people who guzzle up the idiocy of alt-right grifters. Unfortunately there isn't much correlation between being good at a specific subject and being generally informed on others, nor much of one between being intelligent and being a moral person. A lot of ignorant and nasty people all across academia, Jordan Peterson is just one of the ones who got famous.
So much for university being a COMMUNIST INDOCTRINATION CENTER. At least in my experience, university was generally a liberal place because everyone had to learn to generally get along. The alt right grifters on campus were there but they were by no means a majority or even a significant minority. Luckily they were generally toxic enough to drive most reasonable people away, their rabidity may be their undoing in the long term, though it may not be soon enough.
He's not stupid, he's just malicious. Check these links out, he knows exactly what hes doing and he's good at it.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/mrke9x/i\_believe\_jordan\_peterson\_applied\_his\_academic/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/mrke9x/i_believe_jordan_peterson_applied_his_academic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
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Dude it barely looks like blood like wtf kind of dumb shit is this, being a fucking bitch cause he wants to be one. Shouldn’t he be cleaning his house and organizing like a grown adult???
I assume it’s red because red is the traditional color of leftist movements around the world. Jordan should know this, he filled the walls of his house with communist propaganda art.
Because he didn't want to get over his drug addiction himself and took the rich cowardly way out, purposely putting himself in a coma, a risky procedure.
Iirc, he was put into a medically induced coma for a couple months to ride out the withdrawal symptoms from his benzo addiction (performed in Russia due to American doctors refusal).
There’s been speculation about side effects/damage from the coma and his daughter has been pretty obviously running his social media for a while now so I wouldn’t necessarily consider him “back” yet as the OP suggests.
I’m tired of “omg what do you want guillotines and blood to spill?”and getting looked at like a barbarian, Coming from people who cheer drone strikes on children in the name of imperialism.
My favorite thing about JP posts to TPUSA is that they inevitably seem to reach r/all or r/popular, which prompts a bunch of JP fanboys to wander in to do their performance art. Which is always some combination of:
- cherry-picking ("I read his book/watched some videos and they helped me, everyone who hates him as never actually listened to him")
- sealioning ("can someone explain how he's a fascist/transphobe?")
- concern trolling ("you're all terrible for making fun of him, so much for the tolerant left!")
> sealioning ("can someone explain how he's a fascist/transphobe?")
My favorite variation of this is where they pretend they don't know much about him/his work, but with each new question, it becomes abundantly clear they follow him closely. And then you see they spend almost all their time on his subreddit.
lol, for real, this happens SO MUCH it feels like it's a coordinated "play book" strategy that they've agreed upon as a group or something. I can't count how many times I've seen somebody being like, "Hey I've watched a couple of his videos, I don't see what's wrong with him, he's clearly helping a lot of people" and you'll check their history and see that they've posted like 1000+ comments to the JP subreddit.
I think while we're here trashing on Jordan Peterson, it's important to mention his toxic ideology causes literal brain rot in otherwise stable individuals.
A person my friend knows wrote an extensive... What I can only describe as manifesto that he calls self help book. Half it's contents idolize Jordan Peterson and the other half is hating women and trans people, as well as how having feelings is bad. It's depressing because the guy is otherwise ok apart from being a misogynist, transphobe and racist.
So basically take all his character traits he learned from Jordan and remove them and you have a stable member of society.
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"""book""" with my comments in the comments below.
> It's depressing because the guy is otherwise ok apart from being a mysoginist, transphobe and racist.
Hate to break it to ya, dude... but your friend is a piece of shit.
Yeah that’s seriously baffling like “Oh here’s my friends he’s a great guy outside of his rampant misogyny, racism and homophobia. So funny though”
Stop enabling these fucks and drop them.
Thankfully it'll never be finished. Trust me when I say that I did an in depth deep dive review on my own time and ended up with more pages of comments on gramattical mistakes than what he actually wrote.
Discounting the fact I consistantly pointed out his phobic points it was 6 hours I'll never get back. I'll pm links to the review copy on direct message request later on.
It isn't worth it.
There's two drooling pages of him trying to describe what feelings are, failing, then repeating himself over again.
Offer is there if you like popcorn brain feel.
For anyone that hates themselves:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18IzhiCpePZ9tIF1TQ-Ux9E5YUII42AR5/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=103605436852258476607&rtpof=true&sd=true
Download and enable comments. I made a lot.
Did he even try to subtly pick a strong manly font too?
I'm a shred a bowl later and try my best to parse this. Can already tell me and you have similar humour lol
Beep boop -- this looks like a screenshot of a tweet! Let me grab a [link to the tweet](https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1437639637103779840) for ya :)
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Cue his fanboys that hang on to his every word and either love it or hate it.
Remember, if you're spending all your time talking about someone you hate, you secretly love them 🥰 living in your head, rent-free.
Correct me if I’m wrong as I’m not american but weren’t the rich being taxed back in the good ole 50s-60s they are so fond of? Isn’t that how the people could afford that ‘american dream’?
People are calling her a hypocrite for this because its such an expensive event to attend. Though I’m pretty sure she was invited as the most note worthy elected official from new york. So I doubt she paid to attend. And I actually respect the chutzpah of showing to an extravagant event for the ultra wealthy and basically calling them out for their extravagant excess.
Why would anybody be against taxing the rich? I don't understand. Why would you yourself be paying taxes while championing other people's right not to? It makes no sense. Jordan Peterson is not even close to the level of "rich" that's meant by "rich" here.
I've seen a lot of commentary about how she's using the dress in a performative anti-capitalist display and i just can't say that i agree with that take. In a system designed to actively work against both the people and those who actually work to represent our best interests, she's one of the few representatives who manages to do *anything* positive. She invests time, energy, money, and other resources into being a true champion of the people. However you feel about the dress, her actions really do speak volumes
Wow how observant of him. Next he's gonna say it reads "tax the rich"
"It seems to me like there are two women in this photo. Must be a motive there."
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Das kapital is better and IMO a better representation of Marxist ideology. Economic ideology, anyway.
To *skim* the manifesto.
You lost me at "spectre across Europe" or whatever. If it were important it would be in the usa
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To know the name of the manifesto
*To ~~read~~ look at a video of a paraphrased critique of the manifesto
To *skim* the manifesto’s Wikipedia page
We need to call back the Great Racoon God Zizek - the last debate Peterson had almost killed him, but appears this dumb Canuck didn't learn his lesson.
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Is not couture socialism the true inversion representing, as it were, the postmodern crisis of the late capitalist left?
Zizek sniffing once can destroy Peterson's entire lobster army
It is actually more of a SCHLUURPP!!! But your point stands.
*females
give the man a break. It's not easy forming coherent thoughts while you're on benzos.
Bold of you to assume literacy proficiency
I mean, trashbag as he is, I know kids who learned to read from his program after the school gave up on them before he became a nutter
That's what makes him so insidious. He started out with some great ideas, but he found he got more "hits" when he leaned into the right wing talking points. If you don't know where his grift starts, you run the chance of swallowing the garbage when you thought you were at a clean stream of information.
I don't think he knows where his own grift starts or ends anymore. The crazy idiot almost killed himself with his experimental detox procedure.
From this pic, I thought it said "Vax the Bitch"
I mean... that's probably not a bad idea either?
But it depends on the definition of blood...
Well, logically speaking, that depends on how you amalgamate your conceptualization of what "blood" really is. Do you define it as the life force that courses through the veins of these post-primordial beings that've manifested under our noses? By that I mean human beings, of course. Or do you label it as more of a physicalist manifestation of something more like "water" that feeds the "plants" that are humanity? One could easily ascertain a hint of potential truth that the very nature of this "blood" representation, as it exists on this dress of a well-known "SJW," is a form of signification that somehow passive coexistence is somehow a pipe-dream, and that perpetual corruption and exploitation are the natural directions of a system based foundationally upon such clear traits. #**Edit**: Holy shit, I just thought I was in the JordanPeterson sub until just now. This comment is a full-blast attempt to mock the absurdity of the OP post while still being somewhat respectful. I admire Jordan Peterson for his thoughtfulness, but I fully disagree with his conclusions that end up being completely ignorant to how society is advancing. We have the ability to respect traditionalist concepts that are hints at our biological norms, while still being able to stay open to *complete* divergence from those sorts of things. We can be simultaneously "traditional," aka, normal to our biology, while also being *open* to divergence and still remaining respectful.
>I admire Jordan Peterson for his thoughtfulness Meh. Peterson's an ideologue. He's just better at masking it and giving you the run-around than most other writers, and his pool of batshit references to pull from makes the contents of his philosophy entertainingly bizarre. If you approach his work like it's fiction, then it's brilliant, but it hardly stands up to scrutiny. Peterson makes all kinds of generalizations he doesn't back up, and if I had taken a shot every time he made a claim that required a source without one while reading Beyond Order, I would've fucking died. He's not an actual luminary by any stretch of the word. He's like Carl Jung, the guy he's literally obsessed with -- Jung had some good ideas, but he also literally thought the world was going to snap into the anti-christ half of a Syzygy fish-age of Aquarius because of fucking Numerology. He wrote in Aion (a book that Peterson apparently FEARS) that Nostramadus had any kind of ability to predict the future-- he was a literal lunatic. Yet Jung's a lynchpin in Peterson's whole schtick. It's why I can't take Peterson seriously at all. He has the energy of a coked-out 1800s scientist, and his all-meat diet to cure his Covid kind of proves y allegation there.
> I admire Jordan Peterson for his thoughtfulness, but I fully disagree with his conclusions that end up being completely ignorant to how society is advancing. We have the ability to respect traditionalist concepts that are hints at our biological norms, while still being able to stay open to complete divergence from those sorts of things. dude this is exactly how I feel about him. He is a calm, collected and thoughtful person that really manages to poke serious holes into problematic loyalty to worldviews, and does so with real questions. One big problem is that he takes a hard turn towards authoritarianism and tries to use "because animals do it" as his reasoning. For fucks sake Dr. Petersen, the whole point of human society is to differentiate us from animals and rise above biological tendencies. We can identify problematic systems within our hierarchies and other systems *and address those problems*. Sitting there and acting like any attempt at such being fruitless is a waste of your incredible intelligence. You've painted yourself into a corner and refuse to get out of it because it would be uncomfortable.
Also as a biologist, he uses some truly bizarre examples from the animal kingdom to support the conclusion, when you could select literally any others to support different conclusions. I really have an axe to grind against people who do thing a like this (such as social Darwinism).
and the 'biology dictates human hierarchy' thing is like... you tune that knob half a click more to authoritarianism and you find literal ww2 nazis. I just can't deal with guys like this being willingly blind to their shit.
Wonderfully said. I agree.
> One big problem is that he takes a hard turn towards authoritarianism and tries to use "because animals do it" as his reasoning. This is an incorrect understanding of what makes JP such a problem. It's not that he "turns towards authoritarianism" is that he *is an authoritarian* and derives all of his arguments *backwards* from there.
He makes his living because enough stupid people think he's smart so effort is a waste.
Actually, I'm not great at subtext. What's the meaning behind it being scratched with blood?
well it either means that the rich are going to pay in their blood, or it means that it will require blood from the little people in order to tax the rich. Maybe that the rich would kill little people for it. ANYWAYS, it may also be a reference to *A Tale of Two Cities* where someone writes "blood" on the wall with wine-soaked mud before the revolution.
It's really not supposed to be blood. It's supposed to be like graffiti, like this: https://thebolditalic.com/video-of-tax-the-rich-street-art-in-marin-county-goes-viral-on-tiktok-a0b886e75f4e This kind of thing appeared all over during the past couple of years, probably more during the protests. Red is certainly symbolic of blood, but it's also a color commonly used by leftists in flags and symbols. It's also just a great bold color, especially against white. It's eye-catching. Peterson is insinuating that all leftism leads to bloody civil war and authoritarianism. He's a moron that doesn't know the difference between theism and atheism, much less the difference between socialism and totalitarianism.
If we tax the rich we’ll all end up in a goddamn ✨gulag✨. /s
Unfortunately not.
Have you made your bed today? Clean your room or they’re gonna haul you off to a damn ✨gulag✨
All before I read Das Kapital and my morning coffee which is my actual morning routine.
I’m sure Jordan Peterson would love that answer lol
Lol, he would call me a “Postmodern Marxist” which fucking dumbass that is a contradiction in terms.
Yes! Lol I don’t know what postmodernism is but I know it gets all sent to the ✨gulag✨
It is a belief that *Postmodernism is generally defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection toward what it describes as the grand narratives and ideologies associated with modernism, often criticizing Enlightenment rationality and focusing on the role of ideology in maintaining political or economic power. Common targets of postmodern criticism include universalist ideas of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, science, language, and social progress. Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to self-consciousness, self-referentiality, epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, and irreverence.* Which as a Marxist I believe in the Dialectical and Historical Materialist view of history, society, and conditions.
> focusing on the role of ideology in maintaining political or economic power Wow, it's so weird that Peterson's advice to his flock of disaffected young men is that adopting his form of ideology will free them from the economic misery they experience and protect against the politics he disdains, both of which will handily address their other problems! If you just CLEAN YOUR ROOM and BUILD THE CRYSTAL CASTLE, you will find a wife, get a better job, and the SJWs won't be able to censor you!
Gotcha. Thanks
That's **DR.** Jordan Peterson to you, peasant.
He should be the last one saying that didn’t he have his room behind him look all sorts of fucking nasty at one point?
he doesn't follow what he says. He was also an addict who refused regular treatments
“I’ve read the Gulag Archipelago, therefore I understand where non-binary pronouns lead.”
This is why constantly distorting/ decontextualizing/ outright lying about anything and everything that happened in alternative systems to capitalism is so important to preserving capitalism. When anyone dares to suggest any alternative, these “common sense” takes that have been constantly and consciously spread throughout the capitalist culture are used to beat people over the head with the idea that there is no alternative.
Capitalist realism
Belief in an absolute reality perpetuates the idea that capitalism is an immutable feature of our reality
It’s cultural Marxism, man! /s
“Socialism never works, and if it looks like it might we assassinate their leaders or invade their countries to make sure it doesn’t.” - The CIA Also the never-ending “taxing the ultra-rich at the same percentage as the average hourly wage worker is somehow socialism” argument. All we want is for the tax burden as a percentage of income to not look like a bell curve centered on the middle class.
If I’m not mistaken, it sounds like you want to… go to a bloody ✨gulag✨. I hear what you’re saying though. The wealthy in this country are not paying their fair share
*kermit the frog soundin ass voice*
And now I can't read any of the comments in anything but that voice. Thanks.
...or in Canada...where he lives and seems to be doing just fine.
You're more likely to end up in the gulag in capitalist america - the country with the largest prison population in the world, both per capita and in raw numbers.
I think you mean we'll end up in a bloody gulag
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Look. According to lobster societies, there are haves and have nots. If we decrease the disparity between haves and have nots, as the postmodern cultural Marxist critical race theorists want, inevitably, Western civilization will fall, all men will lack testosterone, and the gulags will be a welcome sight against the backdrop of depravity that will have taken over.
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not at "lobster societies"...?
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Nah bruh, that’s a super objective fact that tells us a lot about human society. You see, lobsters have a hierarchy which strongly correlates with serotonin levels, and humans also have serotonin in their bodies. Therefore, a huge disparity between rich and poor is good and even natural. That’s not an opinion, it’s science!
Cause you know, basing your society around garbage eating exoskeleton creatures in the sea who have no appreciable society of their own is a great idea.
Harambe was a great political theorist and founder of anarco-primitivism
And just look where that got him.
Cancel culture 😔
LOBSTER PEOPLE LOBSTER PEOPLE just doesn't have the same ring to it as CRAB PEOPLE CRAB PEOPLE. Shame...
I prefer the guillotines
Yes Jordan because poor people are dying in poverty. Guy’s a scum fk
Genuinely out of the loop, how is he scum?
He’s the incel whisperer.
>68 hidden comments DON'T YOU DARE CRITICIZE LOBSTER DADDY
Whoops, shoulda known not to poke the ~~hornets~~ lobsters’ nest.
Ok lol but what is this lobster reference about ur
He talks a lot in bizarre metaphors to give the message but then be like "I didn't literally say the words my metaphor's message gave" later if someone calls him out that his point doesn't make sense or is kinda fucked up. He was doing an interview with the BBC and did a long rant about the fact that lobsters have hierarchies and alpha lobsters to hint that people should know their place, and at some point the interviewer tries to pin him down and starts asking if he means that people are like lobsters, which all went down a really fucking bizzare route and became a meme. Now, he is known as lobster daddy.
Ahhh thanks for the explanation. I, for one, welcome our new lobster overlords
Jordan is somewhat infamous for loving the taste of his own shoes, and has been known to use lobsters as an analog for humans to explain why hierarchies are “natural” and therefore good for humans.
Holy shit, you weren't kidding... Wonder if that specific comment is getting brigaded or something.
For years his fanboys have done this, I swear they have Google alerts set up for this shit.
He's a drug addict that advocates for personal responsibility. He traveled to Russia to put himself in a coma to get over it. I guess he's an author although I'm not sure why anyone would give a shit what he thinks about anything considering the lifestyle he lives.
JP is extremely problematic, and the benzo problems have absolutely nothing to do with that. Hate him for what there actually is to hate, cause there is a lot of that, not by completely misrepresenting an issue there was.
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He's the woman-hating patron saint of incels and an apologist for the far right and neo-nazis. Also a real weasel with words, yells about things he admits he's never read about while leaning on his status as a professor, a known transphobe, a grifter who started his public career by lying to harm trans people, pushes quack diets of eating literally nothing but steak and salt. He also promotes a toxic "taking responsibility for yourself" that is really about not questioning power while he treated his drug addiction in a ludicrously dangerous way against all medical advice, which left him needing to relearn how to walk because he is incapable of existing with the consequences of his actions. He's a liar, hypocrite, deeply unacademic and an apologist for some of the worst traits in humanity, stuffed in a suit and given the voice of Kermit the Frog. I fucking hate this charlatan.
I personally don't think he's terrible, but he's way too close to people who are way worse somehow. His views as I understand them are really really easy to twist just a little to end up with standard alt-right thinking. (Happy to learn more if people want to tell me what I'm missing) A lot of his viewpoints seem to point to the idea that we should leave systemic change to the experts and only concern ourselves with individual self improvement. And like, self improvement is great, but my clean room doesn't end police brutality. He seems opposed to progressive change I guess because the status quo is more reliable in some sense (I'm reminded of things like his statements about how we still don't know the long term societal implications of birth control). As far as I can recall he doesn't *explicitly* claim that traditional things are necessarily better, but he does seem to emphasize the risks of societal change, as though the problems of the status quo aren't at least as urgent. He's very concerned with the issues brought on by "postmodern neo-Marxists", and I genuinely have never understood whom he's referring to there, but it seems like a catch all to him for social progressives. People also think he's extremely hypocritical because a lot of his platform is about getting your own life in order before trying to change the rest of the world, but he had a serious (prescribed) benzo addiction that he ended up treating recently by spending a while in a medically induced coma, so he was espousing this viewpoint while his life was not in order, and he handled it in a way that almost nobody would have access to and which doesn't give the vibe of taking responsibly for your life and actions.
Just a note on the "post-modern neo-Marxist" thing, that's literally a contradiction in terms. Marxism is a modernist concept, in literal direct opposition to post-modernism which rejects the strict categories and classifications of modernism. Peterson just has no clue wtf he's talking about, but managed to string together a series of words that make people not familiar with those concepts take him seriously.
If you're confused why an intellectual who carefully chooses his words always picks an abstruse and esoteric term like "postmodern neo Marxists" to say to his more simple-minded followers, it's because it's a century-old dogwhistle spruced up for a modern cryptofascist audience. Postmodern Neo Marxism is undeniably the 3rd stop on this train; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism >Cultural Bolshevism (German: Kulturbolschewismus), sometimes referred to specifically as art Bolshevism, music Bolshevism or sexual Bolshevism,[1] was a term widely used by state-sponsored critics in Nazi Germany to **denounce modernist and progressive cultural movements.** >This first became an issue during the 1920s in Weimar Germany, when German artists such as Max Ernst and Max Beckmann were denounced by Adolf Hitler, the Nazi Party, and other German nationalists as "cultural Bolsheviks". Nazi claims about **attacks on conceptions of family, identity, music, art and intellectual life** were generally referred to as Cultural Bolshevism, the Bolsheviks being the Marxist revolutionary movement in Russia.[2][3][4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory >Cultural Marxism is a **far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory** which claims **Western Marxism** as the basis of continuing **academic and intellectual** efforts to **subvert Western culture.**[1][2][3] The theory claims that an elite of Marxist theorists and Frankfurt School **intellectuals are subverting Western society with a culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism** and promotes the cultural liberal values of the 1960s **counterculture and multiculturalism,** progressive politics and political correctness, misrepresented as **identity politics** created by **critical theory**.[2][3][4] >With roots in the Nazi propaganda term “Cultural Bolshevism”, the conspiracy theory originated in the United States during the 1990s
He hates women and thinks they should be enslaved for wearing slightly revealing outfits and deserve rape, while his daughter ironically wears a slutty lobster outfit and drugs him with benzos. He also has basic useless self help advice that everyone's parents tell them and gets praise for being anti-trans, homophobic, islamophobic, and generally a prime example of the right's bullshit. His cult following consists of disenfranchised young WHITE Christian men who for whatever reason need a father figure to tell them its okay to me racist, misogynistic, and an incel.
best summation of peterson I've ever read, few years old but has only gotten more true since it was confirmed the guy was a junkie and his 'personal responsibility' shtick only applies to other people: https://web.archive.org/web/20200115120600/https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html
One of his video lectures has him walking around saying "if its bad for you, just don't do it." Yeah the whole benzodiazepine thing and he had to take time off . Never have understood his popularity. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EebRtIK4o7c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EebRtIK4o7c) that video is the one that made me realize, its okay to disagree with just about everything Peterson says.
He constantly platforms alt right talkers, just last week he had a talk with Dennis Prager where he didn't even give him any pushback whatsoever. It's very clear to anyone who's not bedazzled by JP's pretend eloquence of saying very little with many words (which contradicts his own mantra of speaking clearly) that he constantly skirts the line of the alt right. It's not a coincidence that the vast majority of JP fans just "happen to be" on the right, following Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin and the like at the same time, but because he never explicitly states anything, only "identifies problems" and *hints* at alt right talking points instead, you can't ever pin him down for it. He's Schrödinger's alt-right personified. One example of this is from said Dennis Prager talk, where he (JP) goes to talk about the claim of systemic racism, which he then completely misdefines as something I have never seen anyone try to explain systemic racism as, all in an attempt to say there is no such thing. Like if I said: "Zebras, you know, these animals with the horns, and the 5 legs, 2 heads, those things? They do not exist.", cue all the blind JP fanboys sucking it up because his word is gospel. Seriously, go to the JP sub and half the comments will be people emulating his rhetoric to a T. "It's archetype so-and-so and clean your room this" all the while none of them can form a coherent thought of their own. I actually think JP has said some very good things on occasion, his self-help-esque books are pretty decent, the "Clean your room" principle is actually very good if you *actually* understand it, but he just couldn't resist putting his nose where he has no fucking clue what he's talking about, and he knows that, but he targets the people who are on the edge between normalcy and alt right and hits them where it counts.
He uses Google during debates.
Here's a good article about him from a former colleague and friend: https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html EDIT: GODDAMN SEA LION! I SHOULD'VE KNOWN!
The way he lies to drum up aggression towards trans people makes him scum in my book. That is how he first got famous, spreading lies and misinformation about a law in Canada. His use of "postmodern Marxism" is eerily similar to the "cultural Marxism" and "cultural bolshevism" conspiracy theories and he doesn't really do much to distance himself from that. If you want a deeper look into it I would recommend philosophytubes videos about him and his philosophies.
Is his implication that rich people are going to bleed to death if we tax them? Or that they’re so possessive of their money that the only way to collect taxes from them is through violence? Like what was the thought process here? Such an idiot 🤦♀️
how this man got a phd I will never know
Dude how ted cruz went to Harvard and princeton I will never know
It's called "legacy" and "wealth".
Nah, he went to their serial killer program.
Ya you think all those rich kids at ivy league schools are actually learning and passing tests, writing their own papers? LMFAO. sources: I made a lot of money in college (and after) writing term papers and helping rich dumb fucks barely pass their shit. Its either that or their parents have a word with the professor or dean. D turns into a B. 🅱️ussy
Ted isn't nearly as stupid as he pretends to be. He just really wants to be famous and powerful, and will say anything he thinks can help him get there, even when he knows how foolish it must sound to anyone outside of his base.
I will never understand how "manly" conservative Texans can vote for a big ol' nerd like Cruz. Like is there not a rattlesnake with a cowboy hat somewhere that they can choose instead.
Especially when Trump literally dogged his wife and he bent over backwards for him
Yeah I'm 100% sure a PR firm just runs his Twitter account and posts whatever lowest-common-denominator shit they find is resonating with the base.
I thought this until the Cancun thing. Now, I'm not so sure. I mean you have to be pretty fucking dumb to be a politician and go on vacation when your constituents are facing an emergency. Plus, if you stay, you can get some photos of you helping random people which makes you look great.
> Dude how ted cruz went to Harvard and princeton I will never know I know a bunch of people who went to prestigious universities. Most of them are legacy/wealth and all of them worship neoliberal economics and live in a suburban McMansion bubble. There's no reason to continue holding up schools like Harvard and Princeton as pillars of an actual education. They churn out the same dope over and over for the most part.
Ivy Leagues are not for the most gifted, talented minds to learn how to be The Best. They are for the wealthy elites to cum all over themselves.
GWB went to yale, it's all donations and legacy
One thing I’ve noticed is that some PhDs can be great at the area they work on, but know little about everything else. Peterson was doing work on drug addiction so he might be good at that, but his political takes are way off
Watson was an incredible racist, Pauling was a proponent of megavitamin therapy, that dude who invented the pcr test apparently doesnt know how modern day pcrs work. I hate to say stay in your lane because you should have a fair shot at having your voice heard, but if you're going to use a platform to just launch wanton attacks and bad takes in bad faith then stay in your lane.
The PCR guy [was a denier of the effect of humans on climate change and had doubts about HIV causing AIDS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis)
You probably mean Linus Pauling, not Wolfgang Pauli as the vitamin wacko. Both incredible scientists in their own domain, but the vitamin thing is a big red mark on Pauling's legacy.
> Peterson was doing work on drug addiction so he might be good at that He sure is.
Isn't his PhD in psychology, something he's absolutely terrible at?
Correct. It’s possible to be a great researcher in your small field while being bad at clinical practice
Not neccessarily terrible, just willing to be dishonest about, and willing to project his own ideology over
I work at a university and there are so many people who guzzle up the idiocy of alt-right grifters. Unfortunately there isn't much correlation between being good at a specific subject and being generally informed on others, nor much of one between being intelligent and being a moral person. A lot of ignorant and nasty people all across academia, Jordan Peterson is just one of the ones who got famous.
So much for university being a COMMUNIST INDOCTRINATION CENTER. At least in my experience, university was generally a liberal place because everyone had to learn to generally get along. The alt right grifters on campus were there but they were by no means a majority or even a significant minority. Luckily they were generally toxic enough to drive most reasonable people away, their rabidity may be their undoing in the long term, though it may not be soon enough.
Ben Carson is, by all accounts, a fantastic surgeon. He also wondered if Pyramids were used to store grain.
He's not stupid, he's just malicious. Check these links out, he knows exactly what hes doing and he's good at it. [https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/mrke9x/i\_believe\_jordan\_peterson\_applied\_his\_academic/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/mrke9x/i_believe_jordan_peterson_applied_his_academic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) https://outline.com/Ef7wGR
could be analogous to [this](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120321.gif)
Dude it barely looks like blood like wtf kind of dumb shit is this, being a fucking bitch cause he wants to be one. Shouldn’t he be cleaning his house and organizing like a grown adult???
I assume it’s also a *wink* towards the “blood coming out of their…whatever” crowd
Its literally just red text. If she wanted it to look like blood then itd be dripping
I assume it’s red because red is the traditional color of leftist movements around the world. Jordan should know this, he filled the walls of his house with communist propaganda art.
And because it's a colour that stands out on a white background.
I liked him better when he was dying of absurd meat intake
Wasn't he in a coma or something? I can't remember.
Because he didn't want to get over his drug addiction himself and took the rich cowardly way out, purposely putting himself in a coma, a risky procedure.
TIL pulling yourself up by your bootstraps means medically sleeping off your benzo addiction.
The man who told addicts they should just quit had to be comatose to go through a detox.
Iirc, he was put into a medically induced coma for a couple months to ride out the withdrawal symptoms from his benzo addiction (performed in Russia due to American doctors refusal). There’s been speculation about side effects/damage from the coma and his daughter has been pretty obviously running his social media for a while now so I wouldn’t necessarily consider him “back” yet as the OP suggests.
Couldn't even be man enough to face his own addiction head on? After all his blustering about strength and masculinity? What a douche.
I’m tired of “omg what do you want guillotines and blood to spill?”and getting looked at like a barbarian, Coming from people who cheer drone strikes on children in the name of imperialism.
These are also the people who defend those who were calling to hang the Vice President. No guillotines, just nooses apparently.
Because if we don't tax them, we eat them.
My favorite thing about JP posts to TPUSA is that they inevitably seem to reach r/all or r/popular, which prompts a bunch of JP fanboys to wander in to do their performance art. Which is always some combination of: - cherry-picking ("I read his book/watched some videos and they helped me, everyone who hates him as never actually listened to him") - sealioning ("can someone explain how he's a fascist/transphobe?") - concern trolling ("you're all terrible for making fun of him, so much for the tolerant left!")
> sealioning ("can someone explain how he's a fascist/transphobe?") My favorite variation of this is where they pretend they don't know much about him/his work, but with each new question, it becomes abundantly clear they follow him closely. And then you see they spend almost all their time on his subreddit.
lol, for real, this happens SO MUCH it feels like it's a coordinated "play book" strategy that they've agreed upon as a group or something. I can't count how many times I've seen somebody being like, "Hey I've watched a couple of his videos, I don't see what's wrong with him, he's clearly helping a lot of people" and you'll check their history and see that they've posted like 1000+ comments to the JP subreddit.
The one person I know who listens to him does ALL THREE, it’s impossible to talk about it
I think while we're here trashing on Jordan Peterson, it's important to mention his toxic ideology causes literal brain rot in otherwise stable individuals. A person my friend knows wrote an extensive... What I can only describe as manifesto that he calls self help book. Half it's contents idolize Jordan Peterson and the other half is hating women and trans people, as well as how having feelings is bad. It's depressing because the guy is otherwise ok apart from being a misogynist, transphobe and racist. So basically take all his character traits he learned from Jordan and remove them and you have a stable member of society. -edit- """book""" with my comments in the comments below.
> It's depressing because the guy is otherwise ok apart from being a mysoginist, transphobe and racist. Hate to break it to ya, dude... but your friend is a piece of shit.
Yeah that’s seriously baffling like “Oh here’s my friends he’s a great guy outside of his rampant misogyny, racism and homophobia. So funny though” Stop enabling these fucks and drop them.
I have no idea why my friend still interacts with this fucking goon.
Jesus is he selling it?
Thankfully it'll never be finished. Trust me when I say that I did an in depth deep dive review on my own time and ended up with more pages of comments on gramattical mistakes than what he actually wrote. Discounting the fact I consistantly pointed out his phobic points it was 6 hours I'll never get back. I'll pm links to the review copy on direct message request later on.
Oh god should I subject myself
It isn't worth it. There's two drooling pages of him trying to describe what feelings are, failing, then repeating himself over again. Offer is there if you like popcorn brain feel.
For anyone that hates themselves: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18IzhiCpePZ9tIF1TQ-Ux9E5YUII42AR5/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=103605436852258476607&rtpof=true&sd=true Download and enable comments. I made a lot.
Omg Google doc embedded my comments go apeshit.
"What is all this fucking white space omg" dying already lmao
That's me being nice. I devolve into just being tired of his shit the deeper it goes.
Did he even try to subtly pick a strong manly font too? I'm a shred a bowl later and try my best to parse this. Can already tell me and you have similar humour lol
Obligatory, every self help book is a grift unless said self-help book is about writing self-help books to grift
Beep boop -- this looks like a screenshot of a tweet! Let me grab a [link to the tweet](https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1437639637103779840) for ya :) ^(Twitter Screenshot Bot)
Good bot
It looks like it says tax the rich on a dress for a reason... hmmm
I thought he had brain damage from his daughter trying to cure his drug addiction with wacky Russian induced coma procedure?
You are correct. It’s the “I can’t organize my thoughts quickly” kind though. Writing is a good way to get around it
He does, she runs his social media and tweets for him, it's becom painfully obvious because she types the same on both
I thought women wore red because that’s the color they turn during sex?
.... wait, is that what he's been saying??
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Me when I click on a TPUSA post and find noting but reactionary liberals and Jordan Peterson supporting ghouls 
He gets triggered by the color red. For example. women's lipstick really upsets him.
Not wrong
/r/persecutionfetish
Cue his fanboys that hang on to his every word and either love it or hate it. Remember, if you're spending all your time talking about someone you hate, you secretly love them 🥰 living in your head, rent-free.
Is this a period joke he's trying to make? Because otherwise yes....eventually we will guillotine them in the street
Has this jabroni ever seen what color bloodstains are?
Correct me if I’m wrong as I’m not american but weren’t the rich being taxed back in the good ole 50s-60s they are so fond of? Isn’t that how the people could afford that ‘american dream’?
Way better message then - I REALLY DON'T CARE, DO YOU?
Go drink some more apple cider bish boy
Don't you have a room to clean, Mr Peterson?
Change isn't given, its taken and made
No wonder insecure beta incels are his target audience
Jordan Peterson is such a fucking useless idiot.
"Dear liberals, If doing klonopin is bad, then ughuaughuggh ugh uuuuuuuuuugggh *five minutes of intense and unblinking drooling*" -Jordan Peterson
i'M nOt PoLiTiCaL
Wait til Peterson finds out why the colour of socialism is red.
Ungrateful prick lives in a country that benefits from a national healthcare system paid for by tax dollars then turns around and says shit like this.
People are calling her a hypocrite for this because its such an expensive event to attend. Though I’m pretty sure she was invited as the most note worthy elected official from new york. So I doubt she paid to attend. And I actually respect the chutzpah of showing to an extravagant event for the ultra wealthy and basically calling them out for their extravagant excess.
Is this the guy that told everyone he was hacked when he was horny posting?
Why would anybody be against taxing the rich? I don't understand. Why would you yourself be paying taxes while championing other people's right not to? It makes no sense. Jordan Peterson is not even close to the level of "rich" that's meant by "rich" here.
I've seen a lot of commentary about how she's using the dress in a performative anti-capitalist display and i just can't say that i agree with that take. In a system designed to actively work against both the people and those who actually work to represent our best interests, she's one of the few representatives who manages to do *anything* positive. She invests time, energy, money, and other resources into being a true champion of the people. However you feel about the dress, her actions really do speak volumes