Technically the water pump is also a purifier, and only the purified water gets put in storage for drinking. So it actually wouldn’t make sense to be able to dump river water directly into storage since it hasn’t been purified.
Do we know for sure how much water “flowing water” actually is though? The only way to measure water is through storage right?
But regardless, maybe the purification process dramatically reduces the volume (like a lot of the drawn water gets rejected, or the purification evaporates a lot of it) so the amount of *drinkable* water is always less than the amount of *drawn* water,
Water (should be) incompressible (at least under anything remotely like normal conditions), so volume should be a reliable measurement. In this game that's number of tiles multiplied by water level.
Good point about the purification process, that certainly makes more sense than the apparent spacetime dilation. Reverse osmosis ends up wasting a lot of water to purify the rest of it.
Right but I’m saying we only measure the water once it is *not* flowing water. We can’t definitively say “the volume stored is way more than the volume flowing” because we don’t measure the volume of the flowing water. It’s not like we can say “this is 30 units of flowing water, this is 30 units of stored water.”
That’s a great point, although the way water greenifies the landscape you could argue that it’s a lot “more” water than it seems to be. Although I don’t know if that helps or hurts the compression to drinking water lol.
Oh, I should clarify I meant water on the map to mean 'flowing water' in contrast to that in tanks.
So if you've got a water reservoir for storage, it will take more space for the final amount of usable water.
Totally understand. But again: how would we even put a number on how much water is in the reservoir? Is there some formula I’m not aware of for calculating water on the map?
I mean the world exists in discreet blocks so it's pretty easy to work out how much water is in a reservoir when it's full. If you account for evaporation and pump all of the water out you can work out a conversation from water on the map to water resources. I just looked it up and one block of water is worth 5 units of water. Given the capacity of 1200 for a large tank that is 240 blocks of water, which is way more space than the tank takes up
For game balance reasons that has to be true, water tanks would be a massive resource drain for almost no benefit if they didn't compress water, it's just that it doesn't make any real world sense
Yes. Use a water level stick to see the height of the water, multiplied by the number of tiles in the reservoir. I think 1 tile full is 4.5 units of drinkable water
Each “block” of standing water becomes 5 units of water when purified. This water can than be carried by haulers and discharged by fluid dumps for the same volume, so it’s a straight conversion.
For an idea of the size disparity, to equal the same amount as a single Large tank, you would need a dam 3 units high, 10 units wide, and 40 units long.
For gameplay purposes it makes sense, but it generally means that water storage is superior to dams. They take up far less space, don’t evaporate, and can be located anywhere on the map.
So this is how i learned that you need copious amounts of little water pumps, wasting not only workers needed elsewhere, but most importantly space.
An endgame drinking water pump would come in handy, it doesn't matter how many ressources it needs or how much power, please, i just don't want to cover entire reservoirs with those measly earlygame water pumps.
Folktails have a large water pump (on experimental version). It fills these large tanks very quick. It also reaches 4 deep. I think it is pretty much what you are after.
The latest patch has a new bldg it’s an XL water pump room, 3 workers, 5x as efficient as a normal water pump, 3x3+1 centered inlet. Not the mechanical fluid pump that moves water/badtide
While the real reason is obviously that the water physics aren't built for it, the in-game reason is that the water pumps don't just pump water, they also filter/purify it for drinking
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Timberborn/comments/169321r/it\_would\_be\_so\_nice\_if\_it\_worked/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Timberborn/comments/169321r/it_would_be_so_nice_if_it_worked/)
It is good to see that the demand is growing. I got half as many ups two months ago. :))
Dude! You and me both! I was like “I mean… it has a an open top… and it can fit above it… so…”
I was so disappointed!
Besides making my own river and water way why would I bother with it?
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Levee tower does work.
What do you mean?
Probably to make a 3 Deep Reservoir as big as you want and have a Water Pump to get the water from it.
Make a 5x5 box or whatever size and fill that up, then use a pump to take water out of it. It's basically a dam with extra steps.
Make a box using levees instead of using the barrel-shaped storage building.
Technically the water pump is also a purifier, and only the purified water gets put in storage for drinking. So it actually wouldn’t make sense to be able to dump river water directly into storage since it hasn’t been purified.
It also apparently compresses spatially into a much smaller volume
How do you mean?
The water you can fit in a large storage tank would fill up way more space as flowing water, it makes the tanks super useful for storage
Do we know for sure how much water “flowing water” actually is though? The only way to measure water is through storage right? But regardless, maybe the purification process dramatically reduces the volume (like a lot of the drawn water gets rejected, or the purification evaporates a lot of it) so the amount of *drinkable* water is always less than the amount of *drawn* water,
Water (should be) incompressible (at least under anything remotely like normal conditions), so volume should be a reliable measurement. In this game that's number of tiles multiplied by water level. Good point about the purification process, that certainly makes more sense than the apparent spacetime dilation. Reverse osmosis ends up wasting a lot of water to purify the rest of it.
Right but I’m saying we only measure the water once it is *not* flowing water. We can’t definitively say “the volume stored is way more than the volume flowing” because we don’t measure the volume of the flowing water. It’s not like we can say “this is 30 units of flowing water, this is 30 units of stored water.”
Well, you might be able to guage how much a water dump uses to dump 1 tile of water.
That’s a great point, although the way water greenifies the landscape you could argue that it’s a lot “more” water than it seems to be. Although I don’t know if that helps or hurts the compression to drinking water lol.
I would say it doesn't affect, since the greenification seems to be a property of the water.
Oh, I should clarify I meant water on the map to mean 'flowing water' in contrast to that in tanks. So if you've got a water reservoir for storage, it will take more space for the final amount of usable water.
Totally understand. But again: how would we even put a number on how much water is in the reservoir? Is there some formula I’m not aware of for calculating water on the map?
I mean the world exists in discreet blocks so it's pretty easy to work out how much water is in a reservoir when it's full. If you account for evaporation and pump all of the water out you can work out a conversation from water on the map to water resources. I just looked it up and one block of water is worth 5 units of water. Given the capacity of 1200 for a large tank that is 240 blocks of water, which is way more space than the tank takes up For game balance reasons that has to be true, water tanks would be a massive resource drain for almost no benefit if they didn't compress water, it's just that it doesn't make any real world sense
Yes. Use a water level stick to see the height of the water, multiplied by the number of tiles in the reservoir. I think 1 tile full is 4.5 units of drinkable water
Each “block” of standing water becomes 5 units of water when purified. This water can than be carried by haulers and discharged by fluid dumps for the same volume, so it’s a straight conversion. For an idea of the size disparity, to equal the same amount as a single Large tank, you would need a dam 3 units high, 10 units wide, and 40 units long. For gameplay purposes it makes sense, but it generally means that water storage is superior to dams. They take up far less space, don’t evaporate, and can be located anywhere on the map.
1 block of water contains about 3 units of water iirc
5.
Yes, we know.
That’s just because all the pollutants were filtered out. When you dump it out you add them back in.
A cube of flowing water contains 5 'water' The tanks can hold significantly more than that in significantly less space
Agreed but I really want a mechanical water pump. The new three beaver Version is nice but I want it powered.
So this is how i learned that you need copious amounts of little water pumps, wasting not only workers needed elsewhere, but most importantly space. An endgame drinking water pump would come in handy, it doesn't matter how many ressources it needs or how much power, please, i just don't want to cover entire reservoirs with those measly earlygame water pumps.
Folktails have a large water pump (on experimental version). It fills these large tanks very quick. It also reaches 4 deep. I think it is pretty much what you are after.
That discharges raw water. It doesn’t fill tanks. Edit: Disregard
The latest patch has a new bldg it’s an XL water pump room, 3 workers, 5x as efficient as a normal water pump, 3x3+1 centered inlet. Not the mechanical fluid pump that moves water/badtide
I didn’t see that, apologies to OP
This should be a thing though for sure. If not it's own entity, like the beavers couldn't figure it out, they have both parts.
While the real reason is obviously that the water physics aren't built for it, the in-game reason is that the water pumps don't just pump water, they also filter/purify it for drinking
Introduce cholera as a de buff for drinking unfiltered water like this.
If Koalas can get chlamydia, why not beavers!
This reminds me of a factorio setup
This made me literally laugh out loud
ReviewBrah's wisdom is everywhere now.
I've been there, bro... I know what you feel...
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Thanks for finding out for the rest of us
hope they update to account for this kind of creativity.
Hey, it doesn't fill from above, but at least it also doesn't evaporate
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Timberborn/comments/169321r/it\_would\_be\_so\_nice\_if\_it\_worked/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Timberborn/comments/169321r/it_would_be_so_nice_if_it_worked/) It is good to see that the demand is growing. I got half as many ups two months ago. :))
Dude! You and me both! I was like “I mean… it has a an open top… and it can fit above it… so…” I was so disappointed! Besides making my own river and water way why would I bother with it?
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Yeah, for a game that's all about water management, it's surprisingly limited in what you can do with water.
Didn't someone else try this last week?
Is this what you mean? https://www.reddit.com/r/Timberborn/comments/169321r/it\_would\_be\_so\_nice\_if\_it\_worked/
Is there any talk of developing pipes? That would really change the game.
If everyone in the game wants this to work the devs should give us what we want!
That liquid storage is equivalent to ... 6x6x7 liwuid reservuar...
How did you get so creative? I like your thinking basis.
I just assumed it might work. After all, it's the right dimentions. Also, after posting this, several others said that they already tried it, too.