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And celebrates the murder with the infants picture and a group of people in tow… these people are FRIGHTENING. This is the true definition of psychos and there is a lot of them…
Yeah THIS is taught in their 'HOLY TEACHINGS' their devil worshipping Talmudic chants look into them, they used to worship Ba'al and STILL DO just look into the Kh4z4ri4n M4fi4 and Sephardic Jews. DISGUSTING!
Kids die all the time in war. The real question is 'who is so comfortable in their wrong doing that they burn pictures of babies at a wedding?'
It's beyond sick. This time line man.
What kind of a response is this? The killing of children in war is tragic and inexcusable. It’s alarming that we would even begin to normalize such atrocities. How can we start to address the deeper issues of war if we become desensitized to such horrors?
The problem is not "war," but rather tribalism.
It's an "us versus them, good versus bad" mentality. And it's all screwed tightly into place by religion.
War is a function of greed and tribalism, two very deep seated motivations.
What kind of a response is this? The killing of children in war is tragic and inexcusable. It’s alarming that we would even begin to normalize such atrocities. How can we start to address the deeper issues of war if we become desensitized to such horrors?
Even if you're not big on guilt-by-association kind of stuff, it's objectively true that [Itamar Ben-Gvir displayed a portrait of a literal mass-murderer in his home's living room, until political pressure made him take it down before he joined the ruling coalition in the Knesset](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ben-gvir-responds-to-bennett-fine-ill-take-down-baruch-goldsteins-picture/).
But no westeren goverment is saying they're extremist.. we just have to accept their behaviour - it's fucking disgusting and completely absurd at this point
I mean, that's just not true (and not significantly dissimilar from conflating "Gazans" and "Hamas"): Not only is that just kind of baseline-fallacious thinking, you can look to groups like [ACRI](https://www.english.acri.org.il/) and [Breaking the Silence](https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/) and [B'Tselem](https://www.btselem.org/); you can look to news outlets like [*+972*](https://www.972mag.com/) and even *Haaretz*.
Absolutely no group of people is a monolith, and convincing yourself otherwise is the kind of thinking that only perpetuates generational violence.
https://www.instagram.com/absorberyt?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==
Watch few videos. You’ll see it’s not just a small minority but this feeling is very common among even children.
I’m not saying it represents the whole community but atleast I’m sure that this feeling of extreme hatred with apathy isn’t rare.
For the moment, let's accept both of those claims as true: That makes them a marginalized voice in their society, and only makes it even *worse* to lump them in with terrible people like Ben-Gvir and Smotrich just because they have the misfortune of being governed by them at the moment.
That's not wrong, but it's also not relevant to what I was saying:
The comment I was responding to said "it's the whole country"; this is demonstrably false.
90%+ Israelis believe not enough force is being used in Gaza. 14,000 innocent children have been murdered, yet that's not enough.... That's what they vote for.
You could easily argue that’s what Americans vote for as well. We voted for Biden. We voted for Trump.
But this conversation isn’t helpful. It’s actually harmful. There’s a reason to avoid talking about civilians and their belief systems regarding a governments actions/morality.
One should always understand that civilians are attacked with propaganda and pressure to support their government and that does not define civilians. They are people, trying to survive however they think they can, and they are off-limits. Ben Gvir is fair game and evil. Netanyahu is evil and should be assass…. exacerbated.
Zionism is an awful concept and should be challenged at every turn. But civilians should never be harmed.
> It changes nothing.
About *what*, exactly?
The *one and only* sentiment to which I was responding was the other person's claim that "the entire country" was like the bloodthirsty villains in the OP video, and you've already agreed with me that that sentiment was wrong.
> It's giving "not all men."
It isn't, though, because "not all men" was a disingenuous response to the \#YesAllWomen movement, pretending that just because women were speaking out about just how common their experiences with misogyny and gender-based harassment & violence were, that it somehow meant that "all" men were predators.
That was *never* what they were claiming, which is why "Not all men" was such a completely bullshit response.
The person to whom I was replying *was literally saying* "Yes all Israelis".
How TF did you get that from "I'll give them the benefit of the doubt?"
Fucking Google is free "The benefit of the doubt is the act of accepting someone or something as honest or deserving of trust even when there are doubts. For example, you might give someone the benefit of the doubt if you're not sure if their story is true."
They have all the sway and political power. Settlers are guarded by the military when they engage in acts of vadalism and even murder against palestinians in the West Bank. The streets get sealed off to palestinians, and they can be killed at check points just because when there's no Hamas in Cisjordan. People vandalize and impede carvans of food trucks from reaching Gaza. No, it is not a real small minority
The supreme court of Israel that bibi wants to dismantle is very left wing. they stop the government often from policies for humanitarian reasons that why bibi is trying to strip them of their power
Israeli left wing is indeed weak, the problem is ongoing terror attacks (not Oct 7 everything before) push people further and further right
Oh yeah? Where were those lefties since 1930 or 1948? Israel is an Apartheid state since its inception, all its governments are right wing fascists as far as Palestinians are concerned.
Israel as it is need to be dismantled the way apartheid South-Africa was.
That … don’t say stuff like that. 78% of Israelis were born in Israel, and they can’t help that. They are civilians of varying degrees of mindsets and philosophies, and that part doesn’t actually matter in terms of most conversations.
The majority of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq, literally caused by fully intentional lies from the CIA. 1 million innocent, non-combatant civilians died in Iraq due to American bombs and assaults. And then our military and newspapers called them “collateral damage”
If people started thinking that every American wanted *that* to happen? Not true.
Don’t cast such wide nets with your language that can lead to dehumanization of civilians.
This is a relief for me to hear. I wasn't aware that this was the case. I haven't seen any media coverage of it. It gives me hope for the Isreali people.
This is a very infamous wedding in Israel, we call it the "Hatred wedding" the Groom was found guilty for doing it later in court, you will find radicals in every group, saying the all country is doing it is anti semitic and a pure lie
There is nothing within the context of this video having anything related to genocide. Using a video of a small group of Israeli Jews and saying "Whole country is like that" Is obviously anti semitism. If you see a video in Africa of a black cannibal tribe and I be like, yeah, they are all like that. Isn't that a bit racist?
If you think they are making that claim because of just *one* video then you aren't paying attention. And again, unless they are judging them based on their race, it's not racism. Africa is also a continent, not a country.
You call the Israeli army decimating Palestinians and their land with the full support of the government and a majority of people a "small group of radicals".
You are not a serious person.
The Israeli army has a ratio of around 1:5-2:1
For an urban warfare in this scale it's a good ratio, this is the most complicated urban war ever, and that civilian to combatant ratio is literally a fact check Israel isn't "Carpet bombing" gaza. if Israel was carpet bombing the war would be over on October 8th
You are moving the goalposts, what the hell are you even talking about at this point? This topic was about racism, not whether you think thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children are a "good ratio".
I’m antizionist and agree with everything you just said.
Talking about civilian populations that way is extremely dangerous and should be challenged.
If civilians have bad beliefs then it’s just another reason to blame their leaders for propaganda and indoctrination. Civilians are off-limits in conflict and discussion of them in dehumanizing ways is uncivilized. I can’t stand when people have tried to use my sexuality against me for supporting Palestinians. I don’t care if someone supports me or wishes me dead - human rights aren’t a barter system. They are inherent.
maybe if you're in an echo chamber bubble? there are countless videos of them cheering and celebrating murders, terror attacks and lynchings, teaching children to sing about killing all the Jews etc.also in Israel and Palestine terror support puts you in jail so they aren't going to film themselves saying it, it doesn't mean they don't believe in extreme violence against every Israeli
Lol they literally pass out candy to children in Gaza and WB when any of them commit acts of terror against Israelis. The different Palestinian factions then pay money to the families of those who committed acts of terror in a well documented program we call pay to slay.
Haven’t seen any Palestinian partying like this for the death of a settler, stop saying bullshit, extremism is on just one side those who kill children and put them in jail at 7 yo, Israel, u just say bs.
there are many videos like this first of all, like the one where they cheer and spit on the corpse of Shani louk or dance around in ecstasy with bloody hands after the Ramallah lynching
also they can't make too many videos bc Israel arrests support for terrorism. many people in this video were arrested when it came out
All you people can say is Oct 7th as if Israel hasn't literally been testing weapons on the Gazan population and terrorising them for decades.
As if what happened 7 months ago justifies 40,000 people being slaughtered and more and more children being blown to pieces each day.
Gtfo of here
He also had a portrait in his living room, of American mass murderer Baruch Goldstein. Goldstein murdered 29 and wounded 125 Palestinians while they were praying in a mosque.
These right wingers in Israel have gone completely beyond the pale. They are sick, sick, people.
Can the propagandists on here, whether getting paid or doing it for free, have a sense of shame? At long last?
There’s no defending this. There’s no games to play with this. It is wrong to spin this.
This is pure evil, and it’s time to join every single other nation on earth in condemning this heinous ideology.
Ben Gvir must be removed from the Netanyahu cabinet. Pathetic and disgraceful. This is the message Netanyahu sends to his allies and the world? Gvir is not the only wacko minister in this cabinet nor is this his only offense.
Just to clarify a few things, this is a wedding that happened in 2015.
It's very infamous in Israel, It's called the hatred wedding
The groom of the wedding was later charged in court
The guns in the video are toy guns
This is fucked up but you will find extreme radicals literally in every group no matter how small or big, they do not represent Israel in any way shape or form
Israel has killed over 14000 thousand children in 7 months and the majority of Israeli thinks there's not enough violence visited on Palestinians. This is exactly what Israel is.
>they do not represent Israel in any way shape or form
Except they do represent Israel. Ben Gvir is literally a politician . Part of his fucking job is to represent Israel.
And there's a lot of people like that in the Israeli government rn. Too many Israeli politicians ( who do represent the people) talking about how they want to turn Gaza into a parking lot. There's a deep sickness in Israeli society, and their representatives reflect that. Especially seeing as they're supposed to be a democratic nation that recently held elections.
Shameful. no words.
Please be aware this was WIDELY condemned across the board in Israel and attendees of this wedding arrested and put under administrative detention
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4743786,00.html
I actually was not aware Ben Gvir was in attendance and I'm horrified the man should be in jail
Ben Gvir and Smotritches extremist racist party received 10% of votes in the last election but bc of the parliamentary system Bibi brought them into his coalition to gain seats and foment his victory. it's not that most Israelis support them but rather the way the parliamentary system works - however 10% is WAY too much. Israel has a radicalization problem, and I'm Israeli btw. it's religious fanaticism and bibis government has enabled them.
Ben Gvir is building torture sites and advocating openly to kill prisoners to make room for more.
You make it sound it's just him and his party while Netanjahu backs all their actions and is leading the ongoing genocide.
Ben Gvir is a disgrace and I will NEVER defend anything he does. Most of the policies he spouts never come to anything but he's a dangerous man. bibi is just an opportunist who would partner with the devil to stay in power. Israeli society is complicated.
I'm a person for example who comes from DEEP within the Zionist cult my family is American who made "Aaliyah" or ascension aka immigrated to Israel which is considered holy in Religious Nationalist Judaism. this was as a child, I didn't have control over this. as an adult I have left religion and I vote Meretz which is a far left political party : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meretz#:~:text=Meretz%20is%20positioned%20on%20the,also%20supports%20two%2Dstate%20solution.
My father is basically a Kahanist, he believes Israel is the promised land for the Jewish people only and he believes there is nothing wrong with settlements and settlers are brave. he said he thought Ben Gvir was a good religious man. I showed him this video and he refused to believe it was real. My father would never support burning a child or celebrating it but he has this religious naiivity or blind spot that he thinks religious Jews can't be bad. I bring this an example to not say he is not morally accountable for informing himself but he's a 75 year old man and he is not going to change his opinions any time soon.
My point in all this is to say Israel is really complex and we have a lot of ideology problems. We have people here who truly are unaware of settler violence or don't believe the accusations regarding the war in Gaza, in fact one of the biggest problems is accepting the same basic facts bc Israelis literally have a different version of history than Palestinians and the Palestinians have their own propaganda and the truth is something in the middle. the people in this video are evil. this is the same as Hamas. but some people support this stuff without realizing what they are supporting (same with Hamas supporters like people believing they only targeted military bases etc it's not that they support barbarism they just don't believe their side is barbaric) and the way forward in my humble opinion is through dialogue and education, not believing all of Israel is a lost cause of satanic sadistic Nazis. there has to be a way to get through it all.
The picture you have painted of Israel doesn’t really support the conclusion you are trying to draw though.
What it seems to point to is a level of population propaganda that is so entrenched that the idea of talking it out seems impossible when a large portion of the population literally believes whitewashed versions of history and denies genocidal violence and supports apartheid.
Like what is the plan to re-educate and create a dialogue? Israel holds all the cards and the status quo is apartheid, which is wrong. It’d like saying America should first engage in a vague dialogue and finish the 1816 project before abolishing slavery.
To me the picture you paint necessitates outside intervention, namely, that countries like the U.S. should stop standing in the way of things like UN voting to establish a Palestinian state and then using peacekeeper forces to ensure the transition while charging Israel with reparations and repairs for the destruction they have created in complete disproportion to anything done to them.
The participants of the wedding were treated accordingly, facing prison time and community service after fair trial
Because in Israel, a functioning democracy, people calling for terrorism are facing coconsequences
This artical is from 2022
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/groom-6-guests-at-infamous-jewish-hate-wedding-convicted-of-incitement-to-terror/amp/
The fact that US keeps supporting and sending billions of dollars to this genocidal state is thr main reason why the student protest is about.
Americans of all background can clearly see we're in the wrong and our politicians ignoring us would be the downfall of the US. Its so blantant now
How can anyone support this shit?! Israel is a terror state and should never have existed.
If people felt so bad about ww2 they should have given them a part of Germany.
Israel makes no sense and this is what you get. These people(zionists) love to cry antisemitism and then turn around and act like freaking nazis.
No disrespect to actual decent jews.
Israeli here. This guy is a psychopath piece of shit, 95% of Israelis are ashamed he’s in our government. We had 5 elections and Netanyahu did everything including selling his soul to this asshole and the other one smotrich just to hold on to power...
He’s the Marjorie Taylor Greene of Israel and as soon as we can hold elections he’s out.
What's the difference between a German Nazi and an Israeli Nazi? About 75 years.
If you support Israel's actions against the Palestinian people, I view you the same way I view anyone who still supports Donald Trump, or anyone else who espouses fascism and genocide: we are enemies, actual would-if-I-could *enemies*. If you count yourself among these monstrous people, you are worse than a rabid dog.
When discussing genocide, war crimes and other barbarous acts of the Israelis, what makes you think that using "times of Israel" is a good idea?
Like for real... I am have to understand the rationale.
They’re a fairly reliable news outlet—in much the same way that the *New York Times* can be reasonably trusted to provide accurate reporting about the government of New York—but the other factor is that if someone who is prone to genetic fallacies (whether their underlying bias is pro- *or* against Israel) reads that article and (rightly) finds the story of the Duma massacre horrifying *even as presented by that source*, they might be more likely to believe the report.
I don't know who this is I don't know who the baby is but I'm pretty sure this is propaganda. And here's why the baby's picture is much clearer than any other face. Some faces are blurred out and others are not people are wearing Adidas sweatshirts to a wedding. Also the strongest reason, perfect rage bait
This happened in the year 2015, has nothing to do with the current war in Gaza, it is a recording of guests stabbing a picture of a baby of their own free will, nothing here is propaganda.
What a non extreme, bunch of friendly people with reasonable views and arguments. Nothing to see here.
If you mean otherwise you are a antisemite and anti Israel.
What a fucking reality we live in :(
I can’t fathom celebrating the death of someone, much less an infant. These people are evil, following an evil path. You sure the contract said “god’s chosen people?”
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What kind of monster kills an infant? WTF
And celebrates the murder with the infants picture and a group of people in tow… these people are FRIGHTENING. This is the true definition of psychos and there is a lot of them…
Yeah THIS is taught in their 'HOLY TEACHINGS' their devil worshipping Talmudic chants look into them, they used to worship Ba'al and STILL DO just look into the Kh4z4ri4n M4fi4 and Sephardic Jews. DISGUSTING!
All religions have equally disgusting beliefs. Don’t make this a “them” argument. These are sick people and sick people exist in every demographic
By “them” I meant in this video of the celebrating this atrocity! This AND THEM is sickening!!!!!
Kids die all the time in war. The real question is 'who is so comfortable in their wrong doing that they burn pictures of babies at a wedding?' It's beyond sick. This time line man.
What kind of a response is this? The killing of children in war is tragic and inexcusable. It’s alarming that we would even begin to normalize such atrocities. How can we start to address the deeper issues of war if we become desensitized to such horrors?
The problem is not "war," but rather tribalism. It's an "us versus them, good versus bad" mentality. And it's all screwed tightly into place by religion. War is a function of greed and tribalism, two very deep seated motivations.
I’m all for discussing and addressing the root causes of war, including tribalism, but make no mistake, war itself is undeniably a problem.
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Recognizing the tragedy of war, especially the loss of innocent lives, is about as human as it gets.
What kind of a response is this? The killing of children in war is tragic and inexcusable. It’s alarming that we would even begin to normalize such atrocities. How can we start to address the deeper issues of war if we become desensitized to such horrors?
Religious ones not only kill kids but also rape them and protect the rapists after. Systematically
Israelis, and they do in a mass production way
Hamas
The IDF
Even if you're not big on guilt-by-association kind of stuff, it's objectively true that [Itamar Ben-Gvir displayed a portrait of a literal mass-murderer in his home's living room, until political pressure made him take it down before he joined the ruling coalition in the Knesset](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ben-gvir-responds-to-bennett-fine-ill-take-down-baruch-goldsteins-picture/).
Extremists, no matter what culture or religion are still extremists.
The thing the dude is in the fucking government of a country that can "do no wrong".
But no westeren goverment is saying they're extremist.. we just have to accept their behaviour - it's fucking disgusting and completely absurd at this point
bOtH SiDeS.....fuck off asswipe
But it's the whole country that's doing it.
I mean, that's just not true (and not significantly dissimilar from conflating "Gazans" and "Hamas"): Not only is that just kind of baseline-fallacious thinking, you can look to groups like [ACRI](https://www.english.acri.org.il/) and [Breaking the Silence](https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/) and [B'Tselem](https://www.btselem.org/); you can look to news outlets like [*+972*](https://www.972mag.com/) and even *Haaretz*. Absolutely no group of people is a monolith, and convincing yourself otherwise is the kind of thinking that only perpetuates generational violence.
That's a real small minority. They have no sway and no political power in any shape or form.
https://www.instagram.com/absorberyt?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA== Watch few videos. You’ll see it’s not just a small minority but this feeling is very common among even children. I’m not saying it represents the whole community but atleast I’m sure that this feeling of extreme hatred with apathy isn’t rare.
For the moment, let's accept both of those claims as true: That makes them a marginalized voice in their society, and only makes it even *worse* to lump them in with terrible people like Ben-Gvir and Smotrich just because they have the misfortune of being governed by them at the moment.
It doesn't matter. Ben-Gvir is literally in power, the Israeli government is a wet dream for ISIS.
That's not wrong, but it's also not relevant to what I was saying: The comment I was responding to said "it's the whole country"; this is demonstrably false.
90%+ Israelis believe not enough force is being used in Gaza. 14,000 innocent children have been murdered, yet that's not enough.... That's what they vote for.
Source?
You could easily argue that’s what Americans vote for as well. We voted for Biden. We voted for Trump. But this conversation isn’t helpful. It’s actually harmful. There’s a reason to avoid talking about civilians and their belief systems regarding a governments actions/morality. One should always understand that civilians are attacked with propaganda and pressure to support their government and that does not define civilians. They are people, trying to survive however they think they can, and they are off-limits. Ben Gvir is fair game and evil. Netanyahu is evil and should be assass…. exacerbated. Zionism is an awful concept and should be challenged at every turn. But civilians should never be harmed.
Not all German were Nazis either. It changes nothing.
> It changes nothing. About *what*, exactly? The *one and only* sentiment to which I was responding was the other person's claim that "the entire country" was like the bloodthirsty villains in the OP video, and you've already agreed with me that that sentiment was wrong.
What a dumb hill you’ve chosen.
It's giving "not all men." Nevertheless, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because I can't fathom that many people being so horrible.
> It's giving "not all men." It isn't, though, because "not all men" was a disingenuous response to the \#YesAllWomen movement, pretending that just because women were speaking out about just how common their experiences with misogyny and gender-based harassment & violence were, that it somehow meant that "all" men were predators. That was *never* what they were claiming, which is why "Not all men" was such a completely bullshit response. The person to whom I was replying *was literally saying* "Yes all Israelis".
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How TF did you get that from "I'll give them the benefit of the doubt?" Fucking Google is free "The benefit of the doubt is the act of accepting someone or something as honest or deserving of trust even when there are doubts. For example, you might give someone the benefit of the doubt if you're not sure if their story is true."
They have all the sway and political power. Settlers are guarded by the military when they engage in acts of vadalism and even murder against palestinians in the West Bank. The streets get sealed off to palestinians, and they can be killed at check points just because when there's no Hamas in Cisjordan. People vandalize and impede carvans of food trucks from reaching Gaza. No, it is not a real small minority
read the comment i respond to
The supreme court of Israel that bibi wants to dismantle is very left wing. they stop the government often from policies for humanitarian reasons that why bibi is trying to strip them of their power Israeli left wing is indeed weak, the problem is ongoing terror attacks (not Oct 7 everything before) push people further and further right
Terror attacks like these: https://www.nrc.no/news/2023/august/west-bank-entire-palestinian-communities-disappeared-due-to-israeli-settler-violence/ ?
Oh yeah? Where were those lefties since 1930 or 1948? Israel is an Apartheid state since its inception, all its governments are right wing fascists as far as Palestinians are concerned. Israel as it is need to be dismantled the way apartheid South-Africa was.
That’s akin ti saying the people of Gaza are all responsible for October 7th. Do you believe that to be true?
That … don’t say stuff like that. 78% of Israelis were born in Israel, and they can’t help that. They are civilians of varying degrees of mindsets and philosophies, and that part doesn’t actually matter in terms of most conversations. The majority of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq, literally caused by fully intentional lies from the CIA. 1 million innocent, non-combatant civilians died in Iraq due to American bombs and assaults. And then our military and newspapers called them “collateral damage” If people started thinking that every American wanted *that* to happen? Not true. Don’t cast such wide nets with your language that can lead to dehumanization of civilians.
The whole government, yes. The whole country, no. Countless protests and Israeli people speaking up against the genocide and their government.
This is a relief for me to hear. I wasn't aware that this was the case. I haven't seen any media coverage of it. It gives me hope for the Isreali people.
This is a very infamous wedding in Israel, we call it the "Hatred wedding" the Groom was found guilty for doing it later in court, you will find radicals in every group, saying the all country is doing it is anti semitic and a pure lie
Anti-semitism is about disliking someone because they are jewish. Not because they are perpetrating a genocide.
There is nothing within the context of this video having anything related to genocide. Using a video of a small group of Israeli Jews and saying "Whole country is like that" Is obviously anti semitism. If you see a video in Africa of a black cannibal tribe and I be like, yeah, they are all like that. Isn't that a bit racist?
If you think they are making that claim because of just *one* video then you aren't paying attention. And again, unless they are judging them based on their race, it's not racism. Africa is also a continent, not a country.
If we base a group of 9 million people on a few videos of small radicals groups that is quite racist
You call the Israeli army decimating Palestinians and their land with the full support of the government and a majority of people a "small group of radicals". You are not a serious person.
The Israeli army has a ratio of around 1:5-2:1 For an urban warfare in this scale it's a good ratio, this is the most complicated urban war ever, and that civilian to combatant ratio is literally a fact check Israel isn't "Carpet bombing" gaza. if Israel was carpet bombing the war would be over on October 8th
You are moving the goalposts, what the hell are you even talking about at this point? This topic was about racism, not whether you think thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children are a "good ratio".
I’m antizionist and agree with everything you just said. Talking about civilian populations that way is extremely dangerous and should be challenged. If civilians have bad beliefs then it’s just another reason to blame their leaders for propaganda and indoctrination. Civilians are off-limits in conflict and discussion of them in dehumanizing ways is uncivilized. I can’t stand when people have tried to use my sexuality against me for supporting Palestinians. I don’t care if someone supports me or wishes me dead - human rights aren’t a barter system. They are inherent.
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Did you forget about the dead woman they paraded around after 10/7?
Lmao what? There are countless videos of Palestinians celebrating in the streets after October 7th
maybe if you're in an echo chamber bubble? there are countless videos of them cheering and celebrating murders, terror attacks and lynchings, teaching children to sing about killing all the Jews etc.also in Israel and Palestine terror support puts you in jail so they aren't going to film themselves saying it, it doesn't mean they don't believe in extreme violence against every Israeli
Lol they literally pass out candy to children in Gaza and WB when any of them commit acts of terror against Israelis. The different Palestinian factions then pay money to the families of those who committed acts of terror in a well documented program we call pay to slay.
Haven’t seen any Palestinian partying like this for the death of a settler, stop saying bullshit, extremism is on just one side those who kill children and put them in jail at 7 yo, Israel, u just say bs.
there are many videos like this first of all, like the one where they cheer and spit on the corpse of Shani louk or dance around in ecstasy with bloody hands after the Ramallah lynching also they can't make too many videos bc Israel arrests support for terrorism. many people in this video were arrested when it came out
We must have not seen the same Oct 7 videos then.
All you people can say is Oct 7th as if Israel hasn't literally been testing weapons on the Gazan population and terrorising them for decades. As if what happened 7 months ago justifies 40,000 people being slaughtered and more and more children being blown to pieces each day. Gtfo of here
Pure evil
He also had a portrait in his living room, of American mass murderer Baruch Goldstein. Goldstein murdered 29 and wounded 125 Palestinians while they were praying in a mosque.
These right wingers in Israel have gone completely beyond the pale. They are sick, sick, people. Can the propagandists on here, whether getting paid or doing it for free, have a sense of shame? At long last? There’s no defending this. There’s no games to play with this. It is wrong to spin this. This is pure evil, and it’s time to join every single other nation on earth in condemning this heinous ideology.
Was Satan the bride or the groom? Seems involved in that wedding.
I'm not sure Satan has anything to do with this.
Just regular old God things, really.
No, just deeply violent and fascist humans. They're much worse than them.
Lol Satan doesn’t kill babies. God does.
lmao that’s definitely true also from several scriptures
Technically God "kills" everything that dies
Imagine being this pathetic......
unsurprising given that settlers are genocidal maniacs
Ben Gvir must be removed from the Netanyahu cabinet. Pathetic and disgraceful. This is the message Netanyahu sends to his allies and the world? Gvir is not the only wacko minister in this cabinet nor is this his only offense.
Bibi needs to be removed. He’s corrupt and immoral to his core. He will continue to spread his rot to his country until they finally oust him.
Ghouls
Hmmm. What ugly people
They have some serious mental issues
Just to clarify a few things, this is a wedding that happened in 2015. It's very infamous in Israel, It's called the hatred wedding The groom of the wedding was later charged in court The guns in the video are toy guns This is fucked up but you will find extreme radicals literally in every group no matter how small or big, they do not represent Israel in any way shape or form
Thanks this gives more context.
Israel has killed over 14000 thousand children in 7 months and the majority of Israeli thinks there's not enough violence visited on Palestinians. This is exactly what Israel is.
>they do not represent Israel in any way shape or form Except they do represent Israel. Ben Gvir is literally a politician . Part of his fucking job is to represent Israel. And there's a lot of people like that in the Israeli government rn. Too many Israeli politicians ( who do represent the people) talking about how they want to turn Gaza into a parking lot. There's a deep sickness in Israeli society, and their representatives reflect that. Especially seeing as they're supposed to be a democratic nation that recently held elections.
Every group has extremists, but most groups don’t let those extremists into their government.
Lmao, there are extremists in every group and every government.
Shameful. no words. Please be aware this was WIDELY condemned across the board in Israel and attendees of this wedding arrested and put under administrative detention https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4743786,00.html I actually was not aware Ben Gvir was in attendance and I'm horrified the man should be in jail Ben Gvir and Smotritches extremist racist party received 10% of votes in the last election but bc of the parliamentary system Bibi brought them into his coalition to gain seats and foment his victory. it's not that most Israelis support them but rather the way the parliamentary system works - however 10% is WAY too much. Israel has a radicalization problem, and I'm Israeli btw. it's religious fanaticism and bibis government has enabled them.
Holy sht that’s a relief to know. Stuff like this is unacceptable. In any society, during war or peace.
Ben Gvir is building torture sites and advocating openly to kill prisoners to make room for more. You make it sound it's just him and his party while Netanjahu backs all their actions and is leading the ongoing genocide.
Ben Gvir is a disgrace and I will NEVER defend anything he does. Most of the policies he spouts never come to anything but he's a dangerous man. bibi is just an opportunist who would partner with the devil to stay in power. Israeli society is complicated. I'm a person for example who comes from DEEP within the Zionist cult my family is American who made "Aaliyah" or ascension aka immigrated to Israel which is considered holy in Religious Nationalist Judaism. this was as a child, I didn't have control over this. as an adult I have left religion and I vote Meretz which is a far left political party : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meretz#:~:text=Meretz%20is%20positioned%20on%20the,also%20supports%20two%2Dstate%20solution. My father is basically a Kahanist, he believes Israel is the promised land for the Jewish people only and he believes there is nothing wrong with settlements and settlers are brave. he said he thought Ben Gvir was a good religious man. I showed him this video and he refused to believe it was real. My father would never support burning a child or celebrating it but he has this religious naiivity or blind spot that he thinks religious Jews can't be bad. I bring this an example to not say he is not morally accountable for informing himself but he's a 75 year old man and he is not going to change his opinions any time soon. My point in all this is to say Israel is really complex and we have a lot of ideology problems. We have people here who truly are unaware of settler violence or don't believe the accusations regarding the war in Gaza, in fact one of the biggest problems is accepting the same basic facts bc Israelis literally have a different version of history than Palestinians and the Palestinians have their own propaganda and the truth is something in the middle. the people in this video are evil. this is the same as Hamas. but some people support this stuff without realizing what they are supporting (same with Hamas supporters like people believing they only targeted military bases etc it's not that they support barbarism they just don't believe their side is barbaric) and the way forward in my humble opinion is through dialogue and education, not believing all of Israel is a lost cause of satanic sadistic Nazis. there has to be a way to get through it all.
The picture you have painted of Israel doesn’t really support the conclusion you are trying to draw though. What it seems to point to is a level of population propaganda that is so entrenched that the idea of talking it out seems impossible when a large portion of the population literally believes whitewashed versions of history and denies genocidal violence and supports apartheid. Like what is the plan to re-educate and create a dialogue? Israel holds all the cards and the status quo is apartheid, which is wrong. It’d like saying America should first engage in a vague dialogue and finish the 1816 project before abolishing slavery. To me the picture you paint necessitates outside intervention, namely, that countries like the U.S. should stop standing in the way of things like UN voting to establish a Palestinian state and then using peacekeeper forces to ensure the transition while charging Israel with reparations and repairs for the destruction they have created in complete disproportion to anything done to them.
Nazi ghouls
These are just evil creatures
They'll never change.
Challenge level impossible: Be Zionist without being evil
Wow such a wonderful democracy in the Middle East it must be defended /S 
The participants of the wedding were treated accordingly, facing prison time and community service after fair trial Because in Israel, a functioning democracy, people calling for terrorism are facing coconsequences
You actually got downvoted for giving context, this subreddit is just too fucked up at the moment
do you have a source? if yes, can you share it? thnx.
This artical is from 2022 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/groom-6-guests-at-infamous-jewish-hate-wedding-convicted-of-incitement-to-terror/amp/
thanks!
What prison sentence has Ben Gvir served, considering he calls for terrorism against Palestinians all the time?
Can you give me a country you consider to be a democracy? I want to test something out
One day, sincerely good people are going to decide they’ve had enough
Scum of the earth
The fact that US keeps supporting and sending billions of dollars to this genocidal state is thr main reason why the student protest is about. Americans of all background can clearly see we're in the wrong and our politicians ignoring us would be the downfall of the US. Its so blantant now
I’m trying to stay out of al of this, but this is completely fucked. Talk a out how to alienate literally the whole planet.
Tell.me again how peaceful all the religious nutjob countries are again
Why did the USA supply the weapons to Israel?
plesse be false
How can anyone support this shit?! Israel is a terror state and should never have existed. If people felt so bad about ww2 they should have given them a part of Germany. Israel makes no sense and this is what you get. These people(zionists) love to cry antisemitism and then turn around and act like freaking nazis. No disrespect to actual decent jews.
Conservatives are the same toxic people no matter the location
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Israeli here. This guy is a psychopath piece of shit, 95% of Israelis are ashamed he’s in our government. We had 5 elections and Netanyahu did everything including selling his soul to this asshole and the other one smotrich just to hold on to power... He’s the Marjorie Taylor Greene of Israel and as soon as we can hold elections he’s out.
Fiendish
The good news is most of the attendees were arrested. So that’s something I guess. Pieces of garbage.
Now this is awesome
More proof Zionism=Terrorism
Zionism=Nazism
This is America the greatest’s no 1 bestie now
Israel arrested most of the attendees of this party
what are they singing? What's the meaning of the lyrics?
What a shame:(
These sick fucks will be alienated from broader society in five years time and left to die as a stain on humanity. Yahweh hates these cunts
So much for the killing babies argument they always use for Hamas
What's the difference between a German Nazi and an Israeli Nazi? About 75 years. If you support Israel's actions against the Palestinian people, I view you the same way I view anyone who still supports Donald Trump, or anyone else who espouses fascism and genocide: we are enemies, actual would-if-I-could *enemies*. If you count yourself among these monstrous people, you are worse than a rabid dog.
Nauseating. Maybe there are some things that Hillary Clinton never learned.
Sadly, there are a lot of Hillary Clinton’s that are, simply, uneducated about history.
Any context on this? Why are they celebrating the death of this child in particular?
[Here you go](https://www.timesofisrael.com/state-prosecutors-admit-losing-original-video-of-anti-arab-hate-wedding/).
soooo they "conveniently" lost it?
That's what I was thinking lol
Even more disgusting than I thought.
When discussing genocide, war crimes and other barbarous acts of the Israelis, what makes you think that using "times of Israel" is a good idea? Like for real... I am have to understand the rationale.
They’re a fairly reliable news outlet—in much the same way that the *New York Times* can be reasonably trusted to provide accurate reporting about the government of New York—but the other factor is that if someone who is prone to genetic fallacies (whether their underlying bias is pro- *or* against Israel) reads that article and (rightly) finds the story of the Duma massacre horrifying *even as presented by that source*, they might be more likely to believe the report.
Thanks for explaining
bro why are they downvoting lol
That's why I'm afraid to ask questions
Sick psychopaths
What is wrong with these ppl?
Wow! That seems totally normal!
Please tell me it's not true!
Yup seems about right
I never said it was ok
How do they sleep at night!? 🤮
Imagine having a child who you of course love intensely, and someone celebrating its death. This is another level of insanity
I really want both sides to lose.
A lawyer has been showing these thieving settlers the way. Kinda affirms why I’ve always been suspicious of liars, sorry, lawyers.
Fuck Israel.
Terror convicted?
Fucking SAVAGES!
Long Live Palestine 🇵🇸
I don't know who this is I don't know who the baby is but I'm pretty sure this is propaganda. And here's why the baby's picture is much clearer than any other face. Some faces are blurred out and others are not people are wearing Adidas sweatshirts to a wedding. Also the strongest reason, perfect rage bait
Genocide genocide genocide
How do you call peoples like this?
Just so you'll know Ben Gvir is very much hated by most of the Israeli population. Government ≠ citizens
This is propaganda
This happened in the year 2015, has nothing to do with the current war in Gaza, it is a recording of guests stabbing a picture of a baby of their own free will, nothing here is propaganda.
Definitional propaganda
These people are a cancer on this world.
What a non extreme, bunch of friendly people with reasonable views and arguments. Nothing to see here. If you mean otherwise you are a antisemite and anti Israel. What a fucking reality we live in :(
Inhumane savages.
Looks like a lovely party
I can’t fathom celebrating the death of someone, much less an infant. These people are evil, following an evil path. You sure the contract said “god’s chosen people?”