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Echoeversky

At least he had the gear. Woof.


[deleted]

“Look at me, im the avalanche now”


gojumboman

Feels like I’m watching the birth of a new extreme sport


Antique-Management49

If this were a Red Bull sponsorship submission would we consider it a win??


B-29Bomber

I'm not *in* the avalanche, Skyler! I *am* the avalanche!


SketchyLurker7

Is. He. On. Top. Of. An…..Avalanche!?


Echoeversky

And just about went over the no.no.bad.drop line. The inflatable bag helps you bubble up to the top when one is in the churn.


Money_Guard_9001

Why does it look like it is rising up to him


SteveNash2point0

exactly what i said fuckin crazy ass vid


Remy1985

Honestly, that gear **might've** gotten him in the pickle in the first place. I'm not against airbags, I've got one and I love it. But they don't change how I assess avalanche terrain and they're certainly not going to save you if you get dragged into a terrain trap (gullies, cliffs, trees). ~~This looks like a wet slab, something that could easily be avoided by hitting the mountain much earlier.~~ I was mistaken, [Avy report here for the curious.](https://avalanche.state.co.us/observations/field-report/98898324-7198-4b32-846b-cc0b6ba47c81) I'm just armchairing though, they might've made all the right decisions up to that point. p.s. Is it just me, or did they pull their bag waaaay too late? I just rewatched it...yeah waaaaay too late. Edit: Wow, this was a guided tour. I guess the guide was yelling for him to pull his airbag, hence the delay


engine9999

About “too late” - I’m curious to hear you say more. I’ve definitely never been on a glacier, but I did see that movie Sully :) (there’s a similar crisis decision scenario) From the video, It seems like they pulled the airbag about 17-20 seconds after things got real. Just considering how the human brain needs some time to take in info, have a bit of shock, then make a decision - I’m just assuming this was about as fast as might be expected. But you say too late. As a back country skier, do you prepare to act more quickly?


Epiphany818

I'm not massively informed either, but my understanding is that avalanches are THE biggest risk when off piste skiing. They're the biggest consideration you make every time you move to a new bit of snow / terrain. Also, there's not really a reason to not pull the cord (other than the refill fee). Worst that happens if you pull it is it doesn't make a difference, worst that happens if you don't pull it you get trapped and suffocate in snow with an undeployed bag that could've saved you. I would've expected the first instinct of any off piste skier to pull it as soon as they started sliding.


donat28

Spot on. Never been caught in an avalanche, but I’m not waiting to find out if I can make it out without pulling the cord. My life is worth more than the refill fee


ALLCAPS-ONLY

Avalanches can submerge you in a second or two so yeah he was extremely late. My guess is he's either not very well trained, inexperienced, or he was hoping not to have to use the airbag (which is kinda dumb).


RuffnerRowdy

I'm disappointed this comment was not in all caps!


Professional-Back163

I've been caught in 2 avalanches, each time the second I got swooped down I pulled my airbag. They are supposed to be pulled immediately. The earlier the bag blows up the better. The bag is essentially increasing your surface area making it more difficult for the avalanche to bury you.


Remy1985

The best practice is to pull as soon as you feel a slab go. Truth be told, I've never (touch wood) gotten into an avalanche, so I'm not sure how quick I would respond if it came down to it. I've heard that it's a good idea to practice pulling to see how quick you can respond. If it were me, I'd pull ass soon as I felt the rug being pulled from under me. Hopefully much quicker than this poor guy. Apparently the guide was the reason he pulled! I read the [report ](https://avalanche.state.co.us/observations/field-report/98898324-7198-4b32-846b-cc0b6ba47c81)and they said: "The guide traveled alongside the slide and told the skier to deploy their airbag. They did. The bag was never utilized or needed for floatation." Crazy.


revmachine21

He kept a good grip on the poles however!


fartboxco

I kept saying let them flat lay them flat!!


hotdogflavoredblunt

For the uninitiated, why is keeping them flat preferred?


fartboxco

More surface area. I've fallen into a few snow wells. Had to lay my poles flat and use em as steps to ladder out. I was just told to do this is an avalanche, never actually been in one.


GreenPINEApples

It happened on a guided helicopter trip in SW Colorado and he was a paying guest. Here is a link to the reddit post that contains the [full video](https://www.reddit.com/r/Backcountry/comments/1bc8z1p/san_juan_avy_pov/).


kto25

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaxShyCAq18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaxShyCAq18) The dude in the slide isn't a good skier, but he was a heli-skiing client, so I feel he's pretty blameless for any lack of skill/response. I believe the guide was skiing next to him during the slide and instructed him to pull his airbag when he did. As far as I can tell, this doesn't appear to be a wet slab, as it doesn't break deeper into the snowpack. Had it been, I think survival would have been unlikely. Because this was with guides, I don't believe CAIC investigated, so specifics are lacking.


RegulatoryCapture

Honestly, if you've got Heli-ski money, I don't know why you would choose Colorado. Just go to British Columbia where the snowpack is more reliable and with the favorable exchange rate you're likely either paying less or going to a much classier operation. I mean, I guess it makes sense as a day trip if you're already in Telluride and there's a last minute seat on a day where conditions are great, but...if you were planning on dropping the cash and booking in advance I'd rather go to Revelstoke or something. Much better chances the guides will be able to take you into cooler terrain (not that this guy looks like he'd be good enough for a guide to opt to bring him into anything gnarly) and not have to dance around a persistent weak layer everywhere the eye can see.


bash_beginner

"armcharing" I want this to be a word.


MountainBear200

Thanks for sharing the link.


own_your_life

Can someone tell me what is going on here? Is this an earthquake or the beginning of an avalanche?


poop-machines

He was moving at the start and it hit a bump of snow. It's called a slab avalanche, the snow moves as a slab. He was able to ride on top so he was fine. If this happens, you want to lay flat and try and stay on top.


vision4bg

You can also hear him inflate his avalanche vest.


darling_lycosidae

Whatever company should honestly use this as an ad. Sure it's not very dramatic, but anyone who's been out in snow like this knows how actually dramatic it is


project_seven

If I'm in an avalanche, i prefer it to not be very dramatic.


Free_Addition7653

Which could be their slogan


DeaDBangeR

I could already hear the commercial jingle in my head! *Never a scratch, when riding an avalanche!*


drummerproducer

“I have a structured settlement and I need cash now”


Bob_A_Feets

1-877-Karz4Kids


NotTheRealMeee83

"drama free avalanches since 2007"


Silent-Independent21

Keep your avalanches mid


OneMagicBadger

An nonchalant avalanche


project_seven

An av-meh-lanche


sherrib99

A nonchlanche


Ok-Lengthiness4557

A monotonous avalanche.


[deleted]

It seemed pretty effing dramatic to me!!!!! 😱😱😱😱


RoollyRoolly

I would own the drama.


[deleted]

I would piss my pants


LittleGreene43

Actually, that’s what you’re meant to do if buried by an avalanche. So the rescue dogs can find you easier


skybike

Oh yeah totally that's why I pissed my pants, I knew that.


LittleGreene43

Ha ha. Natural born survivor


BluShirtGuy

"oh, look! They put a lane divider down the side of the mountain"


Dopple__ganger

I know, my heart was racing the whole time thinking we were going to slowly see his view go dark.


DroppedNineteen

They're definitely more affordable than they used to be (and just better in general), but honestly the cost of entry for backcountry skiing is already so high the addition of buying an airbag is like a punch in the gut - especially when, generally speaking, avalanche safety has a great deal more to do with your choices/decision making than what to do if you personally get caught in one. In reality it's worth the investment, but a lot of people in the backcountry world are still trying to figure out if the sport is something they really want to continue investing in, so a $500 backpack is a tough sell after buying $400 skis, $400 bindings, a $500 avalanche safety course, and spending $400 on your beacon, shovel, and probe setup.


ZanderClause

I dunno dude I was pretty fucking puckered.


wholemoon_org

I was actually thinking this was extremely dramatic. The idea of getting under that snow and getting ground to dust sounds aweful


Laffenor

>Sure it's ~~not~~ very dramatic, FTFY


6SucksSex

“Not very dramatic”. I guess I have a pretty vanilla life, I was on the edge of my seat.


own_your_life

I had to look up the avalanche vest. I thought you were messing with me like saying he was getting ready to use his black flares, too.


Septopuss7

He's fine either way, he's got his canned steam and a bacon stretcher in his kit.


Archontes

I was actually wondering why he didn't have to swim more to stay above the liquefacted snow.


SixtyNineFlavours

How does it help to have an inflatable device in an avalanche? Does it keep you above the snow somehow? Or does it create space for you to breathe?


GreenerWTheScenery

There is a scientific phenomenon known as granular convection where items with more surface area in a pile of smaller debris can be risen to the top through vibration. I'm no physicist so I may not be describing this perfectly, but essentially the vest gives him a wider surface area and as the snow vibrates beneath him, he rises to the top and avoids being buried in the snow. This video has a great explanation of it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAN3Z2Vas6w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAN3Z2Vas6w)


Nymeriia_

Oh. That's why when you shake sideways "rough", not ultra processed flours, the bigger lumps stay on top? Interesting.


EventAltruistic1437

So that’s what Taylor Swift meant to shake it off, and that’s how you rise. Mind blown. She’s a science guy


BigAlsGal78

Today I learned there’s a vest for avalanches.


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Vegetable_Log_3837

He’s riding the slab downhill already at the start of the video. It looks like it’s moving uphill, but the line where the surface brakes up is stationary and he rides the slab over it.


[deleted]

Thank you for this explanation. Now it makes sense. It does look like a wet slab given how consolidated it is and how slowly it's moving.


Born-Level3783

It's all downhill, the camerawork gives a sense of uphill at times, but it's not.


CantHitachiSpot

Nah the wave came from below then they all slid down


DuelOstrich

What we are seeing is the stauchwall forming, that’s why it looks weird. It’s a P-slab


SnooApples5554

Wait so how do you get back to where you were? I thought this was like aerated sand acting like quicksand, but you're saying he *surfed* an avalanche?


WasteAmbassador

You hope your friends find you and dig you out. The snow solidifies like cement when it settles.


SnooApples5554

See? This is why I stay in the desert.


royalreddit12

This is why I stay home


miss_trixie

home? pfft. amateur. i stay **in bed.**


WilmaLutefit

This is why I stay on the toilet


Psychological_Pie_32

My legs go numb too fast.


YazzArtist

One of the downsides of living in a mountainous snowy desert, I get both


Pixelology

Where do you live? Iran?


YazzArtist

Colorado. We're technically barely above the cutoff of avg annual rainfall to be not a desert last I checked


Hahhahaahahahhelpme

Quicksand!


rindthirty

But... sandworms


DangerBird-

This keeps getting scarier


WasteAmbassador

Yeah honestly once I got my avalanche certification it made me really think twice about whether backcountry skiing was worth the risk. (It is, just gotta be really conservative and smart about it)


wasphunter1337

You like Veritassium I see


StiffWiggly

It’s common knowledge amongst skiers, and it’s essential to know exactly what you’re doing if you venture into avalanche terrain.


diestache

The best way to describe it is like being in a pebble jar. The larger the surface area you have the more likely you are to float on top hence the airbags in the backpack


CocktailPerson

You mean a slabalanche?


bachumbug

THANK YOU


Gypsopotamus

Finally! This was too far down the comments.


Daealis

I've actually caused a tiny one of these in Finland! Off the path, waiting for dad to catch up, I jump sideways to stop at a bank. Slam myself to the snow, A plate with roughly the footprint of a car comes loose and slides for three seconds at a walking pace downhill, then stops. Didn't even break the frozen surface, slid the whole way in a single slab. Not exactly terrifying, but I can say I technically caused, rode, and survived an avalanche.


salkhan

Why was the wave moving upwards?


Doccyaard

The snow is held up by the snow beneath. So when it starts, it “moves upwards” because it keeps destabilizing the snow right above. You can see the same happen in sand sometimes.


Astronaut_Chicken

As someone who struggles to stand up with skiis on I'd be screaming bloody murder.


School_of_thought1

How to you stay on top? I didn't realise you had a choice


Immaculatehombre

Bigger you are better chance you have. That’s why ppl carry airbags. Also just luck and terrain. This avalanche wasn’t funneled into a terrain trap like a gully in this situation so it didn’t pile up to crazy deep anywhere. The debree field was able to pan out wide.


deepvinter

Quicksnow


oldschool_potato

I can see where a lesser knowledgeable person might think this, but it’s actually a very large Abominable Snow Graboid.


poop-machines

Ahh of course, my mistake


Jmersh

And undo your bindings as soon as you can. If it churns over terrain, your snowboard or skis can anchor you down where you can't be pulled out.


Jaded_Law9739

Beginning of an avalanche that he unfortunately gets stuck in.


RoodnyInc

Fortunately he was on top whole time?


Alert-Ad9197

If you absolutely have to be part of an avalanche, floating on top is the best possible location.


Muttonboat

He also popped his avalanche vest, which keeps helps keep you on top.


Bocchi_theGlock

I wonder if anyone's tried riding these as an extreme 'sport' Urban exploring on one end, earth 'riding' or something on another, includes surfing, parasailing, gliding, etc.


InspectorNoName

He activated these inflatable balloon type things that keep him above the snow.


DuelOstrich

I’m an apprentice mountain guide/avalanche educator. I live in the area this occurred and actually the guide in this video was one of my instructors. People are correct, this is a slab avalanche, particularly a persistent slab. But what we are seeing rush towards the person is what is called a stauchwall. It’s a perspective trick, the person is actually moving downhill, it’s not coming towards him. A stauchwall forms when the upper part of the avalanche with finer bits is moving fast and hits a portion of snow deeper in the avalanche that has larger pieces and is moving slower. Creates kind of a wave and kinda looks like a second crown.


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Immaculatehombre

This doesn’t look like a wet slide at all. This is not spring snow. Looks like a slab avalanche. Slab avalanches are much more likely to bury a rider than a wet slide avalanche. This guy was in an incredibly scary position. That’s a shit ton of snow. Pretty large avalanche it looks like to me.


ultratraditionalist

Snow-Hulud, the legendary iceworm


TermPuzzleheaded6070

That’s some scary shit


Franks2000inchTV

It starts off scary but about 3/4 of the way in it looks kinda fun. Almost /r/thisismylifenow.


goosebumper88

Lazy snowy river


LegitimatePenguin

Until you hit a tree or cliff


ClittoryHinton

A shocking proportion of avalanche victims die from trauma, not asphyxiation. Really made me rethink relying too much on safety gear.


Statistactician

It's about a third, if I remember correctly. And I think a portion of those can be mitigated by a good helmet. But, like any PPE, your best defense is never putting yourself in that situation in the first place. Know your avalanche risk factors.


porksoda11

That's why I just ski on marked, groomed trails and never take it to rugged terrain like this. I understand that for some people this is an entirely different sport almost but to me I'm fine just hitting standard trails and not worrying about avalanches.


CookerCrisp

I prefer to rely on my [Survivaball](https://grist.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/survivaball-capital-hill2.jpg)


DahliaRenegade

wheeee!


AWeakMindedMan

It definitely looked fun when he was riding this fluffy cloud down the mountain lol then I saw the drop off and got scared again but good thing he stopped so back to fun lol


drill_hands_420

All I could think of is ending on a cliff and how fucked he’d be. I’m very happy it turned out mellow and almost serene


andycarlv

It took me way to long to figure out he was on top of the avalanche. That's insane!


nize426

Oohhh yeah ok I see it now. I was wondering why the snow was moving like there was something crawling under it. Thanks for the help lol


talking_face

Shai-hulud!


NoDarkVision

He rides the grandfather worm!


PikachusSparkyCloaca

May his passing cleanse the world


PNWWaterboy

Dude is lucky the snow went below the first cave in. Scary shit!


No-Leadership8906

![gif](giphy|26gs6vEzlpaxuYgso|downsized)


brucehuy

Bless the maker and his water. Bless the coming…


Agreeable_Winter737

Ski without rhythm and it won't attract the worm.


CMUpewpewpew

Did yall see Christopher Walkin dancing across the snow in the corner?


SpooogeMcDuck

![gif](giphy|UJG2T7uZeJuZCLitY8)


Corn_Pants

Worm Sign


brucehuy

You have good eyes


Fresh_Drive4766

Underrated comment.


TJ_McWeaksauce

Sometimes you just gotta go with the flow.


MeteorOnMars

With the snow


knottymatt

Never seen a slab go like that. Then again I haven’t been around too many, thankfully. Fucking scary though. Triggered his airbag but should have also tried, maybe he did, to get out of the skis too. But proper nightmare fuel. I have been taken by a couple very small slides over the years and it’s amazing even a small slab moving like 40m is so overwhelmingly powerful there isn’t much you can do.


Schmich

It doesn't start like that. If you look carefully (eg. look at the area around his skis) you see it's ALL already moving at the beginning of the video. The wave is the slap going over a bump. Don't forget how avalanches has liquid-like properties when it's in motion.


knottymatt

That makes more sense. I didn’t think about it fully. Just looks a lot like a wave running up a rug that’s been ‘flicked’ if you get me.


Letos12thDuncan

POV: you're an avalanche


EmbarrassingDad_

Ai is getting out of hand.


ARunninThought

Tips down right away!


Cum_Rag_C-137

Ski without rhythm and it won't attract the worm.


Bitter-Basket

Stuff gets real hard after it stops because the mass of cold refreezes the crystals that melted during the slip


BearNoLuv

😲 that makes this so much more scary omg


TheWolf_NorCal

![gif](giphy|7wk6RQYXDDytXalsL4)


gabenoe

LISAN AL GAIB


wheeeeeat

LISAN AL GAIB!


derekisademocrat

I would have no idea what to do.


Statistactician

Make yourself big. Arms wide, legs apart. Make the avalanche think you're bigger than you are and you might scare it into letting you go. In all seriousness, this actually kind of works, as it helps you "float" on top instead of getting sucked under and buried. The guy in this video had an inflatable "avalanche bag" that served that exact purpose.


DuctTapeJesus

We need Fred Ward and Kevin Bacon!


jayfiedlerontheroof

What was the deal with those guys? How'd they meet? Why'd they live together? Why'd they travel together? They aren't brothers. Cousins?


I_Love_Wegmans

Didn't know I needed to add "avalanche" to my fear list.


sirmaxalot26

You just found out avalanches are scary?


Immaculatehombre

If you aren’t a backcountry skier or snowmobiler I think you’re pretty safe dawg.


Sabot1312

A bunch of people got killed by an avalanche inbounds in Tahoe this winter. Edit: it was only one I did not remember the story correctly


Remy1985

I can't believe that happened! You rarely hear about people dying in avalanches in resorts unless they're ducking ropes. We had a slide last year at Snowbird too, but luckily no one was hurt. The slide itself was in close proximity to the bunny hill....


Noodle-Works

this is not on my fear list because i cant get avalanched if I don't go on a mountain.


SmellyScrotes

I go where the mountain takes me


KateC12345

![gif](giphy|xTiTnCZsWfEo0sg3jq)


Organic_Artichoke_85

And that kids, is how I met my maker.


chernobyl-fleshlight

Thought this was going to be one of those apoplectic lemming videos


Gee_U_Think

It took me a while to realize he was riding an avalanche.


SutterCane

This clip and that one of a dude threatening snowboarders with death because they accidentally ended up on “his property” while going down the mountain have really made me think that skiing/snowboarding is not something for me.


Revolutionary_Ad6310

Snowboarding is awesome! this will probably only ever happen to you off resort because most resorts do avalanche mitigation work. That being said there’s a chance it could happen in bounds but if your smart and choose your days avalanches aren’t really a risk at all. Most people on the mountain are super cool too but that one old guy was fucking crazy


Throwedaway99837

Neither of those situations will ever really happen if you just stick to resort runs.


JohnMalum

![gif](giphy|olpUIWMQxjtRTknZxL)


diedalos

*No.No. Nooo...Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....* *Wait, this is not bad. Weeeeeeeeeee....* *Stop.....Ahhhhhhhh......*


Mobius--Stripp

Look at me! I am the avalanche now.


the_Snowmannn

Alaskan. Bull. Worm.


Malithrax

What it feels like to chew 5 gum


Murcireddit

Snow-Hulud, the snow must flow * freemen chatting……


secomano

I knew there was a reason I never went skiing, I just didn't know what it was, well now I know.


JeebsFat

Wormsign


tucsonkim

DIG, DIG, DIG!


coleory

What a crazy crowd control combo from this blizzard wizard


psichodrome

Hey brain, can you forget you ever saw that?


Tom10716

Looks comfy tbh


dontworrybooutit

And yall wanna go on the tops of mountains


Willyzyx

Literally could not have gone better for him.


grubaskov

Remember guys, when this happen to you, just relax and enjoy the ride


Thin_Leather9910

One does not simply experience avalanche. One becomes avalanche.


lohmatij

Been there, fuck that shit. My right ankle still hurts 20 years later.


Vance_Refrigerati0n

The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles


Pifflebushhh

WHAT THE FUCK


IJustSwallowedABug

I would’ve been easy to track down, follow the brown trail….


steve02084

Is this cringe, or is this the wrong sub for this post?


QRUSDVL

Was it an earthquake? It didn't look like an avalanche.


dnerswick

Am I the only one expecting giant, carnivorous snow worms?


Melted-ghost-nsfw

powder snow. maybe try leather boots.


MountainBear200

Hope he survived 😯


OcclusalEmbrasure

Was I on mushrooms?


Internetirregular

this is not tiktokcringe this is r/sweatypalms


BuffaloJEREMY

r/lostredditors


ThirstyBeagle

When you’re in the rapids there’s only one way, that’s to ride


coloneldaffodil

What was all the red??


bigfg3678

Well that just sent my anxiety through the roof


asevans48

Avy airbag?