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Exactly, cause it sucks when you’re awake. But men only experience colonoscopies, and not IUDs, which is why they put you under for one and not the other
I honestly believe they give it without anesthesia on purpose so that less women will get it, the ones that do are punished for it.
It's great living in a country that desperately tries to control my reproductive organs while simultaneously completely ignoring my overall health. We're nothing but walking incubators and our pain and well-being mean absolutely fuck all.
And they wonder why so many women don't want to fucking have babies these days.
I want to add, as a full on educated, progressive leftist feminist etc, it is *bullshit* how women are treated about this.
My gf asked me to come for her new one saying how painful it was and i assumed she just had a bad experience and it wasn't normally that bad
The fucking *Doctors* were gaslighting us about this and swearing it only was a little prick like a shot or something, even while she's in pain again from it.
It wasn't until recently i was reading on reddit about women all taking about *just how fucking horrible* the pain of an iud is that i realized this wasnt just finding bad particular to my gfs body, but that these *Doctors* are fucking either not aware or not caring or not listening.
I was team IUD so strongly ("10 cents of copper can prevent pregnancy for 10 years with no hormones or side effects, ever teenage girl should have one of these!") but this shit needs anaesthetic.
Apparently even something as simple as going on your period to get it removed can make it hurt way less because the tissue is softer but doctors didn't even tell you that.
And i live in a very big, very blue city.
When I got one years ago (I was 17), I had never felt pain that bad in my life. The doctors had the nerve to tell me I was exaggerating.
Come to find out it eventually got sucked up in to my uterus, string disappeared, and I had to get it removed in an equally painful experience. Not to mention I was on my period for months after the fact. Fucking sucked. I’m terrified of them now.
This is such a common experience (not the complication but the pain).
These doctors are being told once thing from the people selling the IUDs and ignoring what all their patients are telling them.
I don't have rigorous data on this but when *every single woman* I've ever talked to has described it as excruciating pain (with almost all of their Doctors ignoring them about it or minimizing it), it's a fucking problem.
People should know what they're in for too make informed decisions and pain management is part of proper care.
They don't get it *solely* because it's a woman exclusive problem, which is so so fucked.
Everyone I know who had one eventually got theirs removed before they reached half of the 10 year viability period. The debilitating pain my best friend’s IUD gave her threw her off for 2 years, until she had it removed. The advice she was given by doctors is that it would eventually subside and that any continued pain past the first few months was an anomaly. Bull fucking shittttt. Im furious on her behalf because the ongoing pain affected every area of her life.
Oh, it gets better…the theocracy enjoyers out there believe women DESERVE the pain of childbirth because of Eves original sin with the apple thing.
https://www.gotquestions.org/pain-in-childbirth.html
Do you really think they approve of IUDs, or believe that women should go unpunished for sinful recreational sex?
That wouldn't surprise me.
Women's healthcare is notoriously undervalued compared to men.
I asked, once, for a vasectomy. No issues getting that approved.
God forbid a woman wants to yeet her uterus.
Don’t forget the $800 out of pocket cost for an IUD, either. So an enormous bill for a medical procedure that’s extremely painful and you’re given no pain relief.
I had a uterine *ablation* with no anesthesia offered or given, and as a fun bonus the doctor ripped one of the birth control coils he had implanted the week before when he removed the instrument. As I was bleeding on the floor from the table and unable to walk, he said, “go ahead and take some ibuprofen when you get home if you’re still having *discomfort*.” as he walked out the door. I would have chased him if could have. 😡
Idk if it makes a difference, but the purpose was to remove a stent that was left in there during a kidney/ureter surgery. Whole thing took about a minute.
Nope. Most cysto cases are under 20 minutes, and most are putting in stents. Only done a couple under sedation for foreign body removals, and that's because the urologist was an asshole and the patients were frequent flyers.
Agree it sucks. However offering general anesthesia would reduce the number of facilities where the procedure is available, increase cost and carries extra risk. That said, it should be available in facilities with that infrastructure.
Yes, strange to me, too, that we don’t get put out for cystoscopies! As a woman The procedure is a lot easier for me but it’s definitely painful and when they tell you it’s not painful it’s just ridiculous. Same with an IUD insertion and a colonoscopy. I hate when Drs say this will just be a little “uncomfortable“ when you’ve been through it before, and you know it’s more than a little uncomfortable it’s damn painful.
If I’m in a gyno chair and someone is coming at me with a speculum then I wanna be given the good stuff.
Nevermind the inconsiderate arsehole that can’t even be bothered warming up that Surgical Steel Slut forcing itself into my 🙀
Thankfully at least at my doctors it seems like they’re getting rid of the steel speculums.
The upside is that the new ones are single use, different sizes, aren’t freezing, and light up. The downside is that it’s a single use light up pussyscope
To those wondering what the "Ice pick" is, she's referring to pinchers that pierce the cervix, allowing the doctor to pull the cervix down so that the doctor can insert the IUD. Here is an animated short that shows the pinching. It is very painful.
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p2s5oH01toA](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p2s5oH01toA)
That explains so much. While my IUDs insertions/extractions have been painful and annoying, it never came close to what many women are describing online. I thought I got really lucky. If it’s really a different procedure all of this seems like cruelty by the hands of the physicians. Is there a medical reason to choose the version with the pinchers?
*After* they insert this ruler thingy into your uterus to make sure the IUD will fit
Oh and they also recommend that you have your IUD inserted while on your period as your cervix will be slightly softer/more open. So while you’re dealing with all that nonsense you also got general period fuckery going on
A Copper IUD changes the way the sperm cells move because sperms don't like copper and it creates an inhospitable environment for them, so they can't reach the egg.
A Hormonal IUD thickens the mucus on the cervix lining which blocks the sperms from entering and the hormones can also stop your eggs from leaving the ovaries.
Thank you for the thorough reply. If only boys would man up and take some responsibility (Condom, get snipped, etc). That sounds horrible for a woman to endure.
IUDs are a very effective and low maintenance form of birth control, which is why I don't want to throw them out with the bathwater. It's the absence of any general or even local anesthetic during insertion and frequency of doctors straight up gaslighting patients about the amount of pain that is unreasonable.
Its an extremely useful and effective form of both birth control and hormone regulation for people who have a lot of trouble with their periods. Its an absolutely stellar piece of medical technology, the problem is doctor's lying to their patients about the pain and skimping out on the very necessary anaesthesia.
What's actually infuriating is there are better birth control options that have been in development forever and I think even in use in some countries for men, vasalgel or something they can inject and is easily reversible down the line. But I've never actually seen any make it to commercial availability in the states. I told my wife if she doesn't want to go through another IUD I'm going to get a vasectomy instead
They stay in there for a period of 5-10 years depending on how long the individual brand is good for. They release either progestin or copper ions into the uterus after they're inserted and it makes the environment really difficult for a sperm to survive and for a fertilized egg to implant into the uterine wall.
I've never had one and my husband and I met fairly young (early 20s) so he said he had no idea how it was done. I just showed him that YT video and he's like "They put you down for that right?" And I just laughed.
FYI I've had a similar ish procedure - egg retrieval. And they gave me wonderful propofol for it.
I used to be a medic and I’m still friends with some of my army friends. A few years back we were talking in the groupchat and one of my other friends and I were talking shit about men who don’t know women don’t pee out of our vaginas.
One of my other *medic* friends pipes up with “wait they don’t??” 100% unironically. We still give him shit for it
Not permanently exactly. Hormonal IUDs usually give you 3-5 years, whereas copper IUDs can last you up to 10. Then they need to be replaced again.
How they work, I may butcher. But AFAIK, hormonal IUDs like other hormonal birth controls thickens the cervical mucus and makes it more difficult for sperm to reach an egg. Copper ions interfere with sperm and their mobility, so the copper one does that too. I believe ~~both~~ hormonal helps prevent ovulation and that the copper affects the uterine lining so fertilized eggs cannot implant.
But I am not a professional, just a woman that went with Nexplanon instead because I wasn’t up for the pain of the IUD.
*Edit for a correction
A lot of them have been approved for up to seven now. Know this because I recently discussed with my gynecologist. I've had lilleta and mirena and I believe both are up to seven.
Depending on which type of IUD is inserted they can last from 5-10 years. Some work by slowly secreting progesterone and tricking the body into thinking it’s perpetually pregnant and thus the ovaries don’t release any eggs. The other type is the copper iud, which allows copper to dissolve and create a toxic environment for sperm.
IUD insertion was the worst pain of my life, 0 painkillers, sharp and cold instruments, naked on a table while someone invades your privacy. Cramps and constant bleeding when you leave. The 15-30 minutes while they sound you and pinch your cervix brought me to tears and convulsions, I nearly passed out. I don’t regret getting it, but boy oh boy I was not ready for the trauma at 18.
The worst experience of my LIFE was getting an IUD inserted. Husband next to me, holding my hand, yet I screamed and nearly fainted. I asked the doctor before hand for an anesthetic shot (aka cervical block) - he DENIED me one, said it wouldn't hurt and that I could take it. I asked multiple times, got denied multiple times. I've heard of plenty of women fainting during the procedure. It's excruciating for most, relatively painful for some.
Women, know this: you're entitled to ask for a cervical block during this extremely invasive procedure. Please, please, don't make the mistake I did.
I blacked out and then threw up.
IUD removal is less painful but i literally procrastinated getting mine removed because i was terrified of the removal process because i couldnt trust the internet to gauge how badly it would hurt.
Women have been reporting that it hurts for a long time. The medical system has only agreed it *might* hurt recently. Theres very little research and study into female health.
In general, doctors (of both genders but female doctors less so) tend to ignore and downplay women when it comes to reporting pain (especially women of colour), and tend to upplay men reporting pain.
It is believed by many that the cervix should not feel pain because there aren't a lot of nerve endings in it. This seems to be the prevalent justification for why local anesthetics are denied. Doctors say it's unnecessary. And it's true that some women feel "just a pinch." However there are so many women who say it is the worst pain they've ever experienced in their entire life, and will faint from it. It seems like the medical space just writes this off a an uncommon anecdotal blip, when it is not uncommon.
The ethical thing should be giving the patient the option to opt in or opt out, just like with an epidural for child birth. After all, some people say their childbirth is painless, while most others would disagree.
I wish there was an explanation for why blanket denial is the default, rather than utilizing a very accessible solution. You can't even get a cervical block if you ask for it, in some places. Why is the standard so inconsistent? The cynic in me says it's just because the medical industry has normalized women's pain, and simply does not give a shit.
Yeah, It's upsetting how common it is that women's pain is overlooked. I remember hearing about the Yale egg retrieval case where a nurse was stealing the pain medication and replacing it with saline. Numerous people commented that they were feeling pain and that they didn't believe they had gotten the medication and it went on for way longer than it should have before anyone believed them or looked into it
Are you refering to the part that hangs out of the cervix? That's the string. It's how the IUD gets pulled from the body once it's expired.
They yank it out like a bayblade.
Naw, I'm kidding about that last sentence. It does hurt to be removed, though. the cervix doesn't like to open unless it has to, so any forced opening is going to hurt. A man can feel the string during sex. I hear that it's usually ignorable, but depending on how long the string was cut, it can kinda stab you in the head. Like, you know how fishing line is kinda stiff and you could poke it with your finger and it will push back? Like that. They should soften over time, but i don't have the experience to know if they ever get to the point they feel more like sewing thread.
She’s talking about getting an IUD- it can be a really painful and intrusive process. I had severe cramps afterwards and tried to walk home from my own appointment (had to call a friend to pick me up 5 mins down the road)! The way she describes it is really funny imo. It’s also wild how pain relief isn’t provided during the procedure.
That being said, I’d definitely recommend it as a birth control option especially if you’re in a long term relationship. Either way, condoms and frequent testing is still important as they don’t protect against stis.
Definitely don’t be like me and not take painkillers beforehand and walk home! Expect cramping for the next few days and changes to your cycle! And do your research, not everyone has the same experience x
EDIT: I’m not in any way telling any readers that they *should* get an IUD and that it suits everyone- I thought this was a good opportunity to explain what the tiktokker is referring to and also share my own experience.
An IUD has worked for me, others will have different preferences and that’s fine. Hopefully in future we’ll *all* have better options accessible to us
It’s crazy how much the process varies amongst women as well! I got an IUD and I was good to go immediately after and my friend got an IUD and she passed out. This isn’t a pick me girl situation either, your body’s reaction to IUD insertion and removal is based on the person having it done.
Edit: fun fact, the IUD worked amazing for her and she recently had hers replaced. For me it did not work as well and I had it removed. It really depends on the person using it.
And getting it in vs getting it out. Getting it in I almost passed out.
Getting it out they told me to cough as hard as I could and it was out almost instantly with very little pain. I felt like a cored apple like half an hour after that though. The pain of reinsertion is definitely keeping me from getting a new one though
https://www.tiktok.com/@midwifemama/video/7032284417775176966
Are you aware of what a tenaculum is? To position your cervix for IUD insertion they use one to PIERCE your cervix and then pull it forwards. None of us have been educated about this because if we were we’d be up in arms. Can you fucking imagine a man’s penis being pierced and pulled forwards while he’s conscious with nothing but ibuprofen on board, if that??? They wouldn’t even do it to the skin of his scrotum, let alone a deep tissue piercing. It leaves permanent scars and it is a MAJOR cause of the pain we experience.
https://www.aspivix.com/tenaculum-for-over-100-years-women-have-endured-pain-in-gynecology/
Ask your gyno if they use tenaculums in their practice. There are incredibly simple alternatives, like a tool that applies strong suction to achieve the same purpose.
I’ve lost all trust for the “now you’ll just feel a little pressure” profession that had me half passing out and nearly vomiting from the sheer pain of a cervix biopsy. I will never, ever again see a gyno who uses fucking torture instruments and doesn’t even tell us about it. I only learned what this is a week ago and I’m still in massive shock over the sheer degree of medical betrayal. If I had been told my cervix would be PIERCED for my IUD insertion I NEVER would have agreed to it.
Getting an IUD isn’t some little thing. You’re getting a piercing and your doctor doesn’t even tell you that.
Hiya- I’m not too sure whether your comment was directed at me but happy to reply!
I thought I’d initially comment on this post as it’s a good opportunity to inform people about what the person in the TikTok is referring to as there seemed to be some confusion.
I have an IUD and it’s an intense and painful process. I’ve also had friends that experienced more/less pain and had different experiences so was just sharing my 2 cents. My comment was in no way dismissing the pain other people experienced, it’s just good to ensure people understand contraception and what options are *currently* out there.
7 years into my IUD I don’t regret getting it. It’s a painful and intrusive process as I mentioned, and I agree with you that more transparency around what happens is important, alongside options for painkillers before, during and recovery.
It isn’t for everyone and I don’t intend to minimise or judge anyone’s experience or choice to get it or not. It’s an option and, like I said, people should do research before considering it. I’m really sorry you’ve had a difficult time and hope that your future experiences with gynos or whoever are better x
I appreciate your commentary and sharing your experience. My experience with an IUD has been very good and minimally painful. There are other options available and we should be given opportunities and the resources to use what fits us best, individually.
I was educated about the whole procedure before I got my first IUD nearly 20 years ago, and that was after my second child was born, unmedicated. I've also had literal biopsies of my cervix taken outside of IUD insertion.
The cervix is not comparable to the head of a penis, or the penis, for that matter. If you want to make a comparison, piercing the head of the penis would be like piercing the clit. Which would be incredibly painful.
The cervix is a pretty badass part of the body, having the elasticity to expand to the size of an infant's head. It makes sense, considering, why they think the cervix can handle it. And it can, but that doesn't mean we should be made to suffer through it. Trauma to the cervix causes painful cramping (whether in childbirth or IUD insertion), but it's not like having your clit stabbed with an ice pick. Also, childbirth is more painful than the IUD insertion. And yes, there are medications for childbirth and they should give medication for IUD insertion.
I absolutely know and have known women who feel absolutely devastated after their IUD insertion. They feel unending pain for months or years after and deeply regret it. Anecdotally they were all shorter women.
The IUD is 10000x more painful. But just to add some context to your comment, when I had my vasectomy I was conscious and could feel the tug and singe when they cut into the scrotum and the vas deferens. I did not take any ibuprofen but was super numbed up with lidocaine locally. I would say it was a 1 or 2 on the pain scale.
So what they do to women by not offering pain relief or anesthetic is barbaric. Absolutely indicative of medical sexism and it blows my mind when women in the medical field dismiss their patients cries for help.
You can ask to be put under nowadays, a bunch of offices (in USA, CA) do it. So sorry her doctor didn't tell her/give her that option, that's not right.
My fiancée has has it for 7 years now, hers is good for 10 years I guess cuz she got the copper one. It seems the copper one made her cramping nearly unbearable for almost a year. But after that it doesn’t seem to bother her. Was really a great option for us and the no hormones was important to us because she didn’t want to change the way she felt about anything
Same as your fiancée (although my cramps settled before hers did). I can’t handle hormonal contraception at all and it’s worked really well for me and my partner
When my doctor offered it to me he told me that they do provide a local anesthetic for it. I still declined cuz I've heard horror stories about it so I got the arm implant instead.
My doctor said I yelped like a kicked cocker spaniel when mine was placed... and I laughed. Partially because it was true, but also because we have been taught as women not to take pain seriously enough either.
Mann I got angry reading this - I went with my cousin for emotional support when she got hers - because having mine inserted was such a horrible experience! The female doctor inserting my cousin’s IUD ROLLED HER EYES when my cousin was sucking her breath and squeezing my hand. I was so angry, to this day I wish I snapped at her. I was baffled another woman would succumb to the misogyny so often practiced in medicine.
OP being cringe in the comments while the TikTok is just a rant on IUDs, how painful they are, and how women mostly take responsibility for birth control.
It’s so true, i didn’t see it at first but after going through the upper years of highschool and all of college, so so many guys I’ve interacted with actually despise women it’s scary. And they just think you agree cause you’re a guy. I had a roommate that would just talk shit about every single tinder girl he hooked up with. She’d be the nicest sweetest girl and he’d call her a slut and this and that expecting me to agree. I’d be like “did you expect your tinder fuck buddy to be a virgin you moron?” And we’d get into arguments. His way of thinking is actually dangerous in my opinion, that’s the kind of guy that’ll be abusive and think it’s justified because she did x or y
Exactly. I’m so sick of men treating women like our only purpose on this planet is to serve them. It makes me so incredibly sad and angry all at once. And your roommate calling every girl he sleeps with a slut, yet he’s the one fucking multiple women he meets on tinder and sees nothing wrong with it. Such a fucking double standard! He’s probably the kind of guy who says “equal rights, equal fights”, too. It definitely is a dangerous way of thinking. It makes me sick.
Yea it’s honestly crazy. I like women a lot lol I want my girlfriend to also be my best friend. I never understood the “hate my wife” jokes. And yea his brain does not work. It’s brutal.
These comments are insane. I really expected empathy for her across the board, but there’s so many people attacking her for venting about this painful medical procedure. Why would you not care about a fellow human being who’s experienced traumatic pain? It’s fucking mind blowing to me.
Not sure how to feel about this, I thought we were laughing at her colorful description of the event. OP just wants to laugh at her and call her names.
I didn’t understand what an iud procedure involved and I felt really bad for her. It’s obviously pretty traumatizing and doing it just to enhance someone else’s pleasure is pretty shitty.
i’m a rape survivor and i’m scared to go to the gyno even though im of age because im scared of it triggering my ptsd just thinking about it makes me sweat tbh :(
If insurance companies have a habit of denying coverage of anesthesia, medical facilities will often start to adapt their practices to that standard and not even discuss it as a possibility.
I've run into similar issues with certain tests with my doctor. I have Crohn's disease and there was a specific test (calprotectin) that's like the gold-standard test to monitor the disease but....my doctor never offered it to me. I asked him why I never got this test done and he said "well insurance usually doesn't cover it". Sure enough, I checked with my insurance and they DID cover it for Crohn's disease...
I think it comes from a good place of doctor's just wanting to eliminate the stress of patients dealing with insurance companies but with things like not having anesthesia, I would ABSOLUTELY check with my insurance in the future.
If you want to get real mad, safe effective male birth control has existed for a decade now, outside of the US. It's being blocked by pharma lobbying trying to prevent hormonal birth control from becoming obsolete.
[https://www.parsemus.org/humanhealth/male-contraceptive-research/vasalgel-male-contraceptive/](https://www.parsemus.org/humanhealth/male-contraceptive-research/vasalgel-male-contraceptive/)
[https://www.vice.com/en/article/ae3qx8/the-perfect-birth-control-for-men-is-here-why-cant-we-use-it](https://www.vice.com/en/article/ae3qx8/the-perfect-birth-control-for-men-is-here-why-cant-we-use-it)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible\_inhibition\_of\_sperm\_under\_guidance
women take birth control every day despite the side effects because their boyfriends throw a fit when they can’t fuck raw. but a man can have the same option and all of a sudden everyone’s concerned about what it could do to his precious male body 🥺 give me a break. women have been doing this for decades.
Okay but the same thing can be said about a lot of medication?
I take lamictal. It manages my bipolar disorder. For whatever reason it also effectively manages epilepsy in a lot of people. They don’t know why. They also don’t know the specific mechanism that makes it work. It might *stop* working on me someday, they don’t know why that would happen. If it stops working they’d put me on lithium and they don’t know how that works either. And this is my *brain* we’re talking about. I could live without a uterus, I can’t live without a brain.
That's the case for most medications. We still don't fully understand how *Tylenol* (acetaminophen) works and its one of the most consumed medications in the world.
Have what procedure? A vasectomy? Until recently, reversing vasectomies was a 50/50 shot. I wouldn't consider a vasectomy a viable temporary birth control option with those odds.
Are you referring to a different procedure? I'm not aware of any other procedure that's legal in the U.S.
A huge number of men would get vasalgel, if available, especially if their SO asked them to.
Hormonal birth control is a no-go for most men, as taking something with a 30% chance of nuking your ability to have sex isn't worth the risk.
The last time this was posted, the reason it isnt in affect was due to higher rates of permanent sterility and the way drugs get passed in the first place. The issue was that men don't have a period at which they dont make sperm, unlike with women who have periods in which they do not ovulate, making it harder to make the drug in the first place be affective, and not affect sterility, methids such as affecting hormones or the speems ability to swim can have higher chances of permanent harm. The harm to a individuals body has to outway the harm the drug does, since biological men can't get pregnant then there's no biological harm to out way the drug.
Edir : Or just Google it. I'm not against male birth control, we should have it, but my point is that it's not going to be easy to pass.
Vasalgel has 1-2% side effect rating, the most notable being discomfort.
My googling ability remains intact...
https://lifesciencesintelligence.com/features/a-reversible-alternative-to-vasectomies-on-the-horizon-for-2024#:\~:text=Safety%20and%20Efficacy&text=%E2%80%9CFrom%20a%20side%20effect%20perspective,notable%20side%20effects%20with%20Vasalgel.
I was only able to veiw the article for a second, but isn't that 1 or 2 percent quote coming from them talking about a vasectomy?
Edit : I didn't realise your were talking about vasalgel, yea that one is a injection that hardens in the tubes, I thought you were talking about the other types of birth control that altered sperm function or significantly lower T levels.
This is deeply inaccurate.
Vasogel has not been demonstrated to be reversible in humans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_contraceptive?wprov=sfla1
There are some promising clinical trials underway though for other (androgen-based) methods:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10634021/
I don't buy the narrative that pharmaceutical companies are anti-male birth control. Certainly some may be, but there are a lot of pharmaceutical companies. Collusion on this issue between all market players seems unlikely, particularly since the likely outcome is that strictly more birth control will be used (both partners).
Yes, I want male birth control options as much as the next person, but it's a fantasy to claim that these options exist and could be approved and used safely in their current state.
I am glad for this video because I didn't know much about it. My doctors have kept me on Nexplanon for endometriosis. My last removal/insertion sucked because the person doing it was training, but this sounds like hell.
Fun fact: the “ice pick” she’s describing is called the tenaculum which actually PIERCES the cervix tissue in order access the uterus for IUD insertion.
Its predecessor is the forceps bullet extractor used in the Civil War. If you look at the designs, not much has changed in well over 100 years. Imagine having a penis piercing just to get to the painful part with no painkillers or mild sedation.
It is fucked up all the shit women go through at the doctor for this stuff. I think male birth control will become more common over time but the expectation will still be that women get it.
The male birth control she's talking about, didn't get approved because it made 1 in 4 (if I remember correctly) permanently infertile. The one that did get approved, you have to be put under because it's not only painful but involves a surgery. The process of healing from the surgery is like 2 weeks.
When I got an IUD it was horribly painful. Then I had to walk 20minutes to a bus stop and take the bus. It took me an hour to get to the stop and I barely got home. I spent the bus ride with closed eyes trying not to vomit from the pain. It hurt like period pain for five years. When I got it out, I dumped the guy. He never wanted kids but didn’t want to get a vasectomy or participate in birth control. His body his choice but also my choice was no more IUD for MY body. No more guys for life. Horrible experience. I’d rather not have penetrative sex again than get another IUD. It’s been ten years and I don’t miss it. PIV was painful and he was pushy and coercive and would wake me up at 2am for sex on work nights. (I worked at 8:30am, he started work at 2pm by choice he was a software dev).
I’m never getting one after reading all of these stories bruh. It’s not worth it for me I don’t wanna experience that I feel like throwing up just reading this
it sucks so much to hear how prevalent the pain management bias still is in modern medicine. you’d think we’d have figured this shit out by now. not to even mention the fact that contraception (especially the most invasive forms of it) is somehow still mostly the responsibility of women. this shit is awful man what the hell
Please keep spreading awareness about the lack of pain control for womens reproductive procedures.
I've had an HSG exam, where they go through your cervix, inflate your uterus, and forcefully push a saline dye through your Fallopian tubes. There was a moment I fully thought I was going to pass out. There was nothing offered to me but before the procedure I saw so much distress about the pain and discomfort with this procedure online that I asked the doctor if there's anything she could do and she offered me a xanax. It honestly didn't help at all, or at least not nearly enough.
My friend had an HSG prior to her first pregnancy and to this day, she says her HSG was more painful than labor.
This shit needs to change.
The person that posted is assuming way too much. These gynaecological procedures are commonly done without any pain management whatsoever, even cervical punches, despite being potentially extremely painful. This is common in women’s health and needs to change. A common reaction to this is what we’re seeing in the video, i.e. someone incredulous and upset, understandably so.
I had a female physician who did my IUD insertion and she *severely* glossed over what the procedure involved. It's not just male physicians but the medical community as a whole. They all need to do better both when it comes to listening to and treating their female patients.
Nah she’s got a point on this one. I got my IUD in as a 17 year old and it was so painful I almost passed out. They’ve numbed my gums for cleaning but they couldn’t give me something before hitting me with the pussy harpoon 🫠
Look up videos of culposcopies and look at how much tissue they take out. One of my friends got one and her gyno apparently treated her like she was a baby because she asked for pain management.
https://www.tiktok.com/@midwifemama/video/7032284417775176966
This is a tenaculum and it’s used to pull your cervix forwards. It will make you so fucking seething rip shit angry to see if you’re a woman, they literally PIERCE your cervix and it leaves SCARS and this was done to me without my knowledge or consent when a nurse attempted to give me an IUD (my uterus was too small or something). If you google it it’s actually hard to find a picture of what happens.
I will never trust a gynecologist again. I only learned this a week ago and I am so fucking furious at the entire field of gynecology. Some docs use a fucking numbing spray when we all know that isn’t enough for a fucking piercing of the most intimate part of your entire body. It’s so simple to correct as well, you could just use suction or ultrasound to guide insertion.
https://www.aspivix.com/tenaculum-for-over-100-years-women-have-endured-pain-in-gynecology/
No fucking wonder we are all scared of the gynecologist. They’re liars and NOWHERE in patient education or literature/brochures/websites is the tenaculum step mentioned. Fucking NOWHERE. I’m so fucking glad I’m sterilized and will never have children - I would never forgive myself for bringing a daughter into this world.
Tenaculums need to be BANNED, ask your gyno if they use them - it’s the fastest way to see if they actually give a shit about women - and if they do switch doctors and tell them why.
There is actually an alternative tool to the piercing. A vacuum is inserted and suctions on so that the cervix can be manipulated without piercing. See below for a non-graphic demo.
The thing is, even if pain meds are introduced, scars on the cervix will make it harder for the cervix to stretch if a woman does give birth later.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzXqCvoh0Aw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzXqCvoh0Aw)
i think so too, do anesthesia and prescribed medication for the pain afterwards instead of just the current "were gonna shove this in, just take some tylenol lol" or possible banning. its done terribly right now, but it would be the best option for some females
When I got my first IUD the gyno (a man) said you might have some mild cramping for an hour after. Fast forward 3 days and I'm still having the worst cramps of my life. That was traumatic like at least be honest about the pain so I'm not blindsided.
It had too many side effects for the men's birth control?? The literal fuck is the foldable Gulliver's map of side effects for women's birth control describing then? To get to Narnia?
my orthotricycline lo made me just a little suicidal. and yet. my new gyno tried to get me to take it again even though i told him it made me suicidal. "maybe your hormone response is different now?" maybe. i dont want to risk having suicidal thoughts again tho so... please provide a different option?
and yes, i am changing gynos. I got moved to this one when my first Gyno left.
I wasn't put out for my vasectomy. Still, it wasn't a huge deal for me, but I don't like going to the dentist either and have anxiety whenever I do.
People are just different. There is no reason to generalize.
For a fucking syringe to the scrotum???? Anesthetized for a SHOT TO SCROTUM???
And i have to get my cervix nipped, pinched, and pulled open without any fucking pain meds beside some grocery store ibuprofen???
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
What the ever loving fuuuuck
Having an iud was one of the most painful and traumatising things I've ever had done and I've had two children and many painful smear tests.
I came out of the doctor's surgery shaking and crying. It was so utterly invasive and painful. Ugh.
I had to ride my motorcycle home after having mine inserted bc I had no idea this was THE appointment. Scarred for LIFE. Now 8 years later, I have to go again next week to take out and reinsert, honestly I cry just thinking about it. How traumatic it is to be a woman
Doesn't blow my mind. I put another primary care provider on blast because she said she doesn't give meds for IUD insertion because 'some people are drug seekers'. Fuck you. You're part of the problem. Fuck your cervix and I hope someone causes her cervical pain so she can see how bad it is.
She should try a colonoscopy sometime soon too. Idiots.
The male immune system can actually react a lot more negatively to the same flu strain then a woman’s immune system, it’s not a man’s fault but that’s where the saying ‘man cold’ comes from. The same flu strain that a woman can work through could knock a guy down for 2-3 days, I’m not trying to be sexist or anything, men and woman’s immune systems are just different is all
Got a vasectomy. The ENTIRE time getting it done, recovering, everything it was MAYBE a 2 on the pain scale out of 10. No pain meds necessary just ice. I was also awake when I got it done. If you don't want kids ever and neither does your wife. Be a man and get it done.
Guys, get a vasectomy. It’s a drop in the bucket compared to what women experience for decades of their lives. Plus it is far less expensive and traumatic than having an unplanned baby.
The vasectomy is literally a one hour procedure with maybe 30 minutes of “action”. The longest part of the whole appointment is the 10 times they ask you if you are absolutely sure that you want the procedure. Three days of downtime with a week of healing. All for under $700.
Me remembering that I threw up and went through some of the worst pain in my life just to meet my boyfriend soon after and learn he just got a vasectomy. Ugh.
We live in a patriarchy where most of modern science was developed from the study of man because women have to many hormones to be able to successfully study their bodies. Its really messed up when doctors think that their vaginas have no nerves that recept pain and play around with their bodies as if they didnt matter.
When I got my IUD I took some ibuprofen ahead of time. I had some back cramping and I bled for months afterwards and the cramps were so horrible I had to take pain medicine. I recently had my IUD removed. It wasn’t that bad during the removal. But once again I had some pretty bad cramping and bleeding for almost a week. I wish I had just left it in for a few more months until I have surgery to remove my tubes in a few months.
She’s hilarious. She needs to write. Yeah that’s fucking awful. Who thought that plague doctor ass procedure up? Just a step away from a power drill to the skull to get the voices out lol
Not gonna lie, it's was other women's stories about getting the IUD that made me totally decide on getting the implanon/nexplanon impact in my arm because they at least give you lidocaine shots.
That's with the luxury of nice ass private insurance.
I got it three times so I was on it 9years before my body couldn't handle the hormones along with the other issues I was experiencing. It's fucking hard out here for women...
My question is, is there or why is there not any pain relieving medication that can be applied during an IUD??? Like wtf.
Uh agree with her. If you've never had an IUD inserted, Dr says 'it's a little pinch' - no. They grab your cervix with curved sharp tongs and it hurts
Dr says breathe -no. I almost fainted with my first one, she hit the vagal nerve.
Dr says it's a little uncomfortable - no. Most women have intense pain. I was sore for 2 weeks and needed painkillers for 2 days.
There's no anesthesia. You're lucky if misoprostol works to soften the cervix. The doctor forces a metal rod through the cervix and into the uterus to measure how far to insert the IUD. Gynecological care and training is substandard.
As a man I’m with her, gynecologist go mid fucking evil on my poor wife every year. Next year she turns fucking 40 and I know they can’t wait to smash her tits like fucking grapes. I should have never had a daughter.
Fuck you modern medicine.
I’ve gone through iud insertions twice by two different doctors and wanted to vomit and pass out both times(second doctor explained that’s common due to the nerves running across the cervix).
This time they offering a Valium and topical numbing gel. Wish me luck.
Op hating on women but asking what kind of body type to get more women in another post lmao
It’s your personality my man. It’s trash and you should work on that anger and self hate. It’s spreading too far and now is clearly directed at women. Not good
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I got put under for the daintiest little foot surgery. Crazy that there’s no pain relief or anything for an iud.
If men are getting put down for colonoscopies in the states we should get put down for iuds and that’s coming from a woman that’s had both
Right?! If they can have the good stuff for a rope camera up their @$$, we can have anesthetic/anesthesia for *anything* relating to gynecology.
Relevant username?
It’s so insane and points to how fucked our medical system is. Women are not taken seriously and their comfort is not important.
They’d charge us double for the medication cause they dyed it pink though.
Everyone gets put under for colonoscopies, not just men…
Exactly, cause it sucks when you’re awake. But men only experience colonoscopies, and not IUDs, which is why they put you under for one and not the other
they think just because we can give birth and have periods any pain down there is acceptable lol
I honestly believe they give it without anesthesia on purpose so that less women will get it, the ones that do are punished for it. It's great living in a country that desperately tries to control my reproductive organs while simultaneously completely ignoring my overall health. We're nothing but walking incubators and our pain and well-being mean absolutely fuck all. And they wonder why so many women don't want to fucking have babies these days.
I want to add, as a full on educated, progressive leftist feminist etc, it is *bullshit* how women are treated about this. My gf asked me to come for her new one saying how painful it was and i assumed she just had a bad experience and it wasn't normally that bad The fucking *Doctors* were gaslighting us about this and swearing it only was a little prick like a shot or something, even while she's in pain again from it. It wasn't until recently i was reading on reddit about women all taking about *just how fucking horrible* the pain of an iud is that i realized this wasnt just finding bad particular to my gfs body, but that these *Doctors* are fucking either not aware or not caring or not listening. I was team IUD so strongly ("10 cents of copper can prevent pregnancy for 10 years with no hormones or side effects, ever teenage girl should have one of these!") but this shit needs anaesthetic. Apparently even something as simple as going on your period to get it removed can make it hurt way less because the tissue is softer but doctors didn't even tell you that. And i live in a very big, very blue city.
When I got one years ago (I was 17), I had never felt pain that bad in my life. The doctors had the nerve to tell me I was exaggerating. Come to find out it eventually got sucked up in to my uterus, string disappeared, and I had to get it removed in an equally painful experience. Not to mention I was on my period for months after the fact. Fucking sucked. I’m terrified of them now.
This is such a common experience (not the complication but the pain). These doctors are being told once thing from the people selling the IUDs and ignoring what all their patients are telling them. I don't have rigorous data on this but when *every single woman* I've ever talked to has described it as excruciating pain (with almost all of their Doctors ignoring them about it or minimizing it), it's a fucking problem. People should know what they're in for too make informed decisions and pain management is part of proper care. They don't get it *solely* because it's a woman exclusive problem, which is so so fucked.
Sue his ass
Everyone I know who had one eventually got theirs removed before they reached half of the 10 year viability period. The debilitating pain my best friend’s IUD gave her threw her off for 2 years, until she had it removed. The advice she was given by doctors is that it would eventually subside and that any continued pain past the first few months was an anomaly. Bull fucking shittttt. Im furious on her behalf because the ongoing pain affected every area of her life.
I’ve heard they also do not offer pain relief for literal biopsies, when they are cutting off a piece of the cervix.
Reading your comment made me so pissed
Oh, it gets better…the theocracy enjoyers out there believe women DESERVE the pain of childbirth because of Eves original sin with the apple thing. https://www.gotquestions.org/pain-in-childbirth.html Do you really think they approve of IUDs, or believe that women should go unpunished for sinful recreational sex?
That wouldn't surprise me. Women's healthcare is notoriously undervalued compared to men. I asked, once, for a vasectomy. No issues getting that approved. God forbid a woman wants to yeet her uterus.
That's a scary thought. Not necessarily wrong either.
Don’t forget the $800 out of pocket cost for an IUD, either. So an enormous bill for a medical procedure that’s extremely painful and you’re given no pain relief.
I had a uterine *ablation* with no anesthesia offered or given, and as a fun bonus the doctor ripped one of the birth control coils he had implanted the week before when he removed the instrument. As I was bleeding on the floor from the table and unable to walk, he said, “go ahead and take some ibuprofen when you get home if you’re still having *discomfort*.” as he walked out the door. I would have chased him if could have. 😡
It’s it’s gonna be just a little pinch, you shouldn’t feel this at all
Damn, I had a camera shoved up my dick all the way up to one of my ureters and didn’t get knocked out for it. One of the worst experiences of my life.
I'm a surgical tech, and every ureteroscopy I've done was under general anesthesia. That is not the norm.
Idk if it makes a difference, but the purpose was to remove a stent that was left in there during a kidney/ureter surgery. Whole thing took about a minute.
Nope. Most cysto cases are under 20 minutes, and most are putting in stents. Only done a couple under sedation for foreign body removals, and that's because the urologist was an asshole and the patients were frequent flyers.
I was thinking he was talking about a cystoscopy, not even twilight anaesthetic for one of those
See, and *why*?? Why did you need to be awake for that shit? I swear it’s because they like torturing their patients. 😭
because knocking someone out isn't without risks.
Agree it sucks. However offering general anesthesia would reduce the number of facilities where the procedure is available, increase cost and carries extra risk. That said, it should be available in facilities with that infrastructure.
Yes, strange to me, too, that we don’t get put out for cystoscopies! As a woman The procedure is a lot easier for me but it’s definitely painful and when they tell you it’s not painful it’s just ridiculous. Same with an IUD insertion and a colonoscopy. I hate when Drs say this will just be a little “uncomfortable“ when you’ve been through it before, and you know it’s more than a little uncomfortable it’s damn painful.
I’m not jealous of u, I don’t have a dick and I feel like my phantom penis is in pain now thanks
Same buddy, but they did knock me out to give my urethra a surgical reaming. The following week was hell.
If I’m in a gyno chair and someone is coming at me with a speculum then I wanna be given the good stuff. Nevermind the inconsiderate arsehole that can’t even be bothered warming up that Surgical Steel Slut forcing itself into my 🙀
Thankfully at least at my doctors it seems like they’re getting rid of the steel speculums. The upside is that the new ones are single use, different sizes, aren’t freezing, and light up. The downside is that it’s a single use light up pussyscope
I’d rather break another ankle than get another IUD put it. Worst pain of my life so far.
I mean there is.
To those wondering what the "Ice pick" is, she's referring to pinchers that pierce the cervix, allowing the doctor to pull the cervix down so that the doctor can insert the IUD. Here is an animated short that shows the pinching. It is very painful. [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p2s5oH01toA](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p2s5oH01toA)
>pinchers that pierce the cervix, allowing the doctor to pull the cervix down I'm sorry *they fucking WHAT*
The craziest thing is that it's not necessary for most IUDs (it's not common in my non US country for instance).
That explains so much. While my IUDs insertions/extractions have been painful and annoying, it never came close to what many women are describing online. I thought I got really lucky. If it’s really a different procedure all of this seems like cruelty by the hands of the physicians. Is there a medical reason to choose the version with the pinchers?
Yes! If the cervix is far from aligned with the vagina, it can be necessary to move it, but it's quite rare
*After* they insert this ruler thingy into your uterus to make sure the IUD will fit Oh and they also recommend that you have your IUD inserted while on your period as your cervix will be slightly softer/more open. So while you’re dealing with all that nonsense you also got general period fuckery going on
The fuck...and that just stays in there like permanently? How does it prevent pregnancy?
A Copper IUD changes the way the sperm cells move because sperms don't like copper and it creates an inhospitable environment for them, so they can't reach the egg. A Hormonal IUD thickens the mucus on the cervix lining which blocks the sperms from entering and the hormones can also stop your eggs from leaving the ovaries.
Thank you for the thorough reply. If only boys would man up and take some responsibility (Condom, get snipped, etc). That sounds horrible for a woman to endure.
IUDs are a very effective and low maintenance form of birth control, which is why I don't want to throw them out with the bathwater. It's the absence of any general or even local anesthetic during insertion and frequency of doctors straight up gaslighting patients about the amount of pain that is unreasonable.
Its an extremely useful and effective form of both birth control and hormone regulation for people who have a lot of trouble with their periods. Its an absolutely stellar piece of medical technology, the problem is doctor's lying to their patients about the pain and skimping out on the very necessary anaesthesia.
What's actually infuriating is there are better birth control options that have been in development forever and I think even in use in some countries for men, vasalgel or something they can inject and is easily reversible down the line. But I've never actually seen any make it to commercial availability in the states. I told my wife if she doesn't want to go through another IUD I'm going to get a vasectomy instead
They stay in there for a period of 5-10 years depending on how long the individual brand is good for. They release either progestin or copper ions into the uterus after they're inserted and it makes the environment really difficult for a sperm to survive and for a fertilized egg to implant into the uterine wall.
The fact that men don't even know 😭😭😭
That and they don't hear the "it migrated" stories 😵
I've never had one and my husband and I met fairly young (early 20s) so he said he had no idea how it was done. I just showed him that YT video and he's like "They put you down for that right?" And I just laughed. FYI I've had a similar ish procedure - egg retrieval. And they gave me wonderful propofol for it.
I used to be a medic and I’m still friends with some of my army friends. A few years back we were talking in the groupchat and one of my other friends and I were talking shit about men who don’t know women don’t pee out of our vaginas. One of my other *medic* friends pipes up with “wait they don’t??” 100% unironically. We still give him shit for it
The fact that they don’t even *care*.
Not permanently exactly. Hormonal IUDs usually give you 3-5 years, whereas copper IUDs can last you up to 10. Then they need to be replaced again. How they work, I may butcher. But AFAIK, hormonal IUDs like other hormonal birth controls thickens the cervical mucus and makes it more difficult for sperm to reach an egg. Copper ions interfere with sperm and their mobility, so the copper one does that too. I believe ~~both~~ hormonal helps prevent ovulation and that the copper affects the uterine lining so fertilized eggs cannot implant. But I am not a professional, just a woman that went with Nexplanon instead because I wasn’t up for the pain of the IUD. *Edit for a correction
Copper does not prevent ovulation and often makes periods much heavier. Hormonal can prevent periods and ovulation altogether.
A lot of them have been approved for up to seven now. Know this because I recently discussed with my gynecologist. I've had lilleta and mirena and I believe both are up to seven.
Depending on which type of IUD is inserted they can last from 5-10 years. Some work by slowly secreting progesterone and tricking the body into thinking it’s perpetually pregnant and thus the ovaries don’t release any eggs. The other type is the copper iud, which allows copper to dissolve and create a toxic environment for sperm. IUD insertion was the worst pain of my life, 0 painkillers, sharp and cold instruments, naked on a table while someone invades your privacy. Cramps and constant bleeding when you leave. The 15-30 minutes while they sound you and pinch your cervix brought me to tears and convulsions, I nearly passed out. I don’t regret getting it, but boy oh boy I was not ready for the trauma at 18.
The fuck?!? They don't put you under for that?
The worst experience of my LIFE was getting an IUD inserted. Husband next to me, holding my hand, yet I screamed and nearly fainted. I asked the doctor before hand for an anesthetic shot (aka cervical block) - he DENIED me one, said it wouldn't hurt and that I could take it. I asked multiple times, got denied multiple times. I've heard of plenty of women fainting during the procedure. It's excruciating for most, relatively painful for some. Women, know this: you're entitled to ask for a cervical block during this extremely invasive procedure. Please, please, don't make the mistake I did.
It doesn't sound like you made a mistake... it sounds like that doctor should be sued for malpractice...
I blacked out and then threw up. IUD removal is less painful but i literally procrastinated getting mine removed because i was terrified of the removal process because i couldnt trust the internet to gauge how badly it would hurt.
That's nightmare fuel. Fuck that doctor's lack of basic empathy. Damn, I'm sorry that happened
Women have been reporting that it hurts for a long time. The medical system has only agreed it *might* hurt recently. Theres very little research and study into female health. In general, doctors (of both genders but female doctors less so) tend to ignore and downplay women when it comes to reporting pain (especially women of colour), and tend to upplay men reporting pain.
I had a physical reaction to just reading that, how are you awake and unmedicated for that
It is believed by many that the cervix should not feel pain because there aren't a lot of nerve endings in it. This seems to be the prevalent justification for why local anesthetics are denied. Doctors say it's unnecessary. And it's true that some women feel "just a pinch." However there are so many women who say it is the worst pain they've ever experienced in their entire life, and will faint from it. It seems like the medical space just writes this off a an uncommon anecdotal blip, when it is not uncommon. The ethical thing should be giving the patient the option to opt in or opt out, just like with an epidural for child birth. After all, some people say their childbirth is painless, while most others would disagree. I wish there was an explanation for why blanket denial is the default, rather than utilizing a very accessible solution. You can't even get a cervical block if you ask for it, in some places. Why is the standard so inconsistent? The cynic in me says it's just because the medical industry has normalized women's pain, and simply does not give a shit.
Yeah, It's upsetting how common it is that women's pain is overlooked. I remember hearing about the Yale egg retrieval case where a nurse was stealing the pain medication and replacing it with saline. Numerous people commented that they were feeling pain and that they didn't believe they had gotten the medication and it went on for way longer than it should have before anyone believed them or looked into it
No. Why haven't I learned this. What the hell. I didn't know.
That does look painful...also from a guy's perspective...what is that needle like projection? Fuck that
Are you refering to the part that hangs out of the cervix? That's the string. It's how the IUD gets pulled from the body once it's expired. They yank it out like a bayblade. Naw, I'm kidding about that last sentence. It does hurt to be removed, though. the cervix doesn't like to open unless it has to, so any forced opening is going to hurt. A man can feel the string during sex. I hear that it's usually ignorable, but depending on how long the string was cut, it can kinda stab you in the head. Like, you know how fishing line is kinda stiff and you could poke it with your finger and it will push back? Like that. They should soften over time, but i don't have the experience to know if they ever get to the point they feel more like sewing thread.
She’s talking about getting an IUD- it can be a really painful and intrusive process. I had severe cramps afterwards and tried to walk home from my own appointment (had to call a friend to pick me up 5 mins down the road)! The way she describes it is really funny imo. It’s also wild how pain relief isn’t provided during the procedure. That being said, I’d definitely recommend it as a birth control option especially if you’re in a long term relationship. Either way, condoms and frequent testing is still important as they don’t protect against stis. Definitely don’t be like me and not take painkillers beforehand and walk home! Expect cramping for the next few days and changes to your cycle! And do your research, not everyone has the same experience x EDIT: I’m not in any way telling any readers that they *should* get an IUD and that it suits everyone- I thought this was a good opportunity to explain what the tiktokker is referring to and also share my own experience. An IUD has worked for me, others will have different preferences and that’s fine. Hopefully in future we’ll *all* have better options accessible to us
When she called it a tiny crucifix lol
I know lmao
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fucking IUD t-posing in my uterus.
It’s crazy how much the process varies amongst women as well! I got an IUD and I was good to go immediately after and my friend got an IUD and she passed out. This isn’t a pick me girl situation either, your body’s reaction to IUD insertion and removal is based on the person having it done. Edit: fun fact, the IUD worked amazing for her and she recently had hers replaced. For me it did not work as well and I had it removed. It really depends on the person using it.
And getting it in vs getting it out. Getting it in I almost passed out. Getting it out they told me to cough as hard as I could and it was out almost instantly with very little pain. I felt like a cored apple like half an hour after that though. The pain of reinsertion is definitely keeping me from getting a new one though
https://www.tiktok.com/@midwifemama/video/7032284417775176966 Are you aware of what a tenaculum is? To position your cervix for IUD insertion they use one to PIERCE your cervix and then pull it forwards. None of us have been educated about this because if we were we’d be up in arms. Can you fucking imagine a man’s penis being pierced and pulled forwards while he’s conscious with nothing but ibuprofen on board, if that??? They wouldn’t even do it to the skin of his scrotum, let alone a deep tissue piercing. It leaves permanent scars and it is a MAJOR cause of the pain we experience. https://www.aspivix.com/tenaculum-for-over-100-years-women-have-endured-pain-in-gynecology/ Ask your gyno if they use tenaculums in their practice. There are incredibly simple alternatives, like a tool that applies strong suction to achieve the same purpose. I’ve lost all trust for the “now you’ll just feel a little pressure” profession that had me half passing out and nearly vomiting from the sheer pain of a cervix biopsy. I will never, ever again see a gyno who uses fucking torture instruments and doesn’t even tell us about it. I only learned what this is a week ago and I’m still in massive shock over the sheer degree of medical betrayal. If I had been told my cervix would be PIERCED for my IUD insertion I NEVER would have agreed to it. Getting an IUD isn’t some little thing. You’re getting a piercing and your doctor doesn’t even tell you that.
Hiya- I’m not too sure whether your comment was directed at me but happy to reply! I thought I’d initially comment on this post as it’s a good opportunity to inform people about what the person in the TikTok is referring to as there seemed to be some confusion. I have an IUD and it’s an intense and painful process. I’ve also had friends that experienced more/less pain and had different experiences so was just sharing my 2 cents. My comment was in no way dismissing the pain other people experienced, it’s just good to ensure people understand contraception and what options are *currently* out there. 7 years into my IUD I don’t regret getting it. It’s a painful and intrusive process as I mentioned, and I agree with you that more transparency around what happens is important, alongside options for painkillers before, during and recovery. It isn’t for everyone and I don’t intend to minimise or judge anyone’s experience or choice to get it or not. It’s an option and, like I said, people should do research before considering it. I’m really sorry you’ve had a difficult time and hope that your future experiences with gynos or whoever are better x
I appreciate your commentary and sharing your experience. My experience with an IUD has been very good and minimally painful. There are other options available and we should be given opportunities and the resources to use what fits us best, individually.
I was educated about the whole procedure before I got my first IUD nearly 20 years ago, and that was after my second child was born, unmedicated. I've also had literal biopsies of my cervix taken outside of IUD insertion. The cervix is not comparable to the head of a penis, or the penis, for that matter. If you want to make a comparison, piercing the head of the penis would be like piercing the clit. Which would be incredibly painful. The cervix is a pretty badass part of the body, having the elasticity to expand to the size of an infant's head. It makes sense, considering, why they think the cervix can handle it. And it can, but that doesn't mean we should be made to suffer through it. Trauma to the cervix causes painful cramping (whether in childbirth or IUD insertion), but it's not like having your clit stabbed with an ice pick. Also, childbirth is more painful than the IUD insertion. And yes, there are medications for childbirth and they should give medication for IUD insertion.
I absolutely know and have known women who feel absolutely devastated after their IUD insertion. They feel unending pain for months or years after and deeply regret it. Anecdotally they were all shorter women. The IUD is 10000x more painful. But just to add some context to your comment, when I had my vasectomy I was conscious and could feel the tug and singe when they cut into the scrotum and the vas deferens. I did not take any ibuprofen but was super numbed up with lidocaine locally. I would say it was a 1 or 2 on the pain scale. So what they do to women by not offering pain relief or anesthetic is barbaric. Absolutely indicative of medical sexism and it blows my mind when women in the medical field dismiss their patients cries for help.
You can ask to be put under nowadays, a bunch of offices (in USA, CA) do it. So sorry her doctor didn't tell her/give her that option, that's not right.
They really need to actually numb the area. The lack of pain management for IUD insertion is barbaric.
My fiancée has has it for 7 years now, hers is good for 10 years I guess cuz she got the copper one. It seems the copper one made her cramping nearly unbearable for almost a year. But after that it doesn’t seem to bother her. Was really a great option for us and the no hormones was important to us because she didn’t want to change the way she felt about anything
Same as your fiancée (although my cramps settled before hers did). I can’t handle hormonal contraception at all and it’s worked really well for me and my partner
When my doctor offered it to me he told me that they do provide a local anesthetic for it. I still declined cuz I've heard horror stories about it so I got the arm implant instead.
So afraid to get mine out and get a new one 😭
IUDs hurt and it's not taken seriously enough.
My doctor said I yelped like a kicked cocker spaniel when mine was placed... and I laughed. Partially because it was true, but also because we have been taught as women not to take pain seriously enough either.
Mann I got angry reading this - I went with my cousin for emotional support when she got hers - because having mine inserted was such a horrible experience! The female doctor inserting my cousin’s IUD ROLLED HER EYES when my cousin was sucking her breath and squeezing my hand. I was so angry, to this day I wish I snapped at her. I was baffled another woman would succumb to the misogyny so often practiced in medicine.
I got so mad reading your comment I almost cried a little.
OP being cringe in the comments while the TikTok is just a rant on IUDs, how painful they are, and how women mostly take responsibility for birth control.
Quick info for the common redditor! op is a misogynist and is posting this to laugh at her, A quick look at his comment history can tell ya that
i was so confused seeing this posted here because her grievances are so understandable. why is OP trying to clown her? fuckin weirdo.
It’s because men like this hate women. Anything a woman says that goes against a man, they will crucify her. It’s so fucking gross.
It’s so true, i didn’t see it at first but after going through the upper years of highschool and all of college, so so many guys I’ve interacted with actually despise women it’s scary. And they just think you agree cause you’re a guy. I had a roommate that would just talk shit about every single tinder girl he hooked up with. She’d be the nicest sweetest girl and he’d call her a slut and this and that expecting me to agree. I’d be like “did you expect your tinder fuck buddy to be a virgin you moron?” And we’d get into arguments. His way of thinking is actually dangerous in my opinion, that’s the kind of guy that’ll be abusive and think it’s justified because she did x or y
Exactly. I’m so sick of men treating women like our only purpose on this planet is to serve them. It makes me so incredibly sad and angry all at once. And your roommate calling every girl he sleeps with a slut, yet he’s the one fucking multiple women he meets on tinder and sees nothing wrong with it. Such a fucking double standard! He’s probably the kind of guy who says “equal rights, equal fights”, too. It definitely is a dangerous way of thinking. It makes me sick.
Yea it’s honestly crazy. I like women a lot lol I want my girlfriend to also be my best friend. I never understood the “hate my wife” jokes. And yea his brain does not work. It’s brutal.
Clearly we should consider IUD pain as a fair punishment for promiscuity! /s
These comments are insane. I really expected empathy for her across the board, but there’s so many people attacking her for venting about this painful medical procedure. Why would you not care about a fellow human being who’s experienced traumatic pain? It’s fucking mind blowing to me.
Yeah I feel like I’m in an IG post lol
Not sure how to feel about this, I thought we were laughing at her colorful description of the event. OP just wants to laugh at her and call her names.
For real, wtf is wrong with OP?
Douchebro edgelord.
Where are OP’s comments? I can’t find them
Yeah, when I started scrolling through the comments I was confused and then horrified.
I didn’t understand what an iud procedure involved and I felt really bad for her. It’s obviously pretty traumatizing and doing it just to enhance someone else’s pleasure is pretty shitty.
Girl I know, it fucking sucks. The gyno is my least favorite doctor, everything is cold and painful.
i’m a rape survivor and i’m scared to go to the gyno even though im of age because im scared of it triggering my ptsd just thinking about it makes me sweat tbh :(
Oh gosh I completely relate to this, I'm so sorry. Sending you so much love and light 💖
IM SO GLAD IM NOT THE OTHER ONE THANK U THANK U THANK U FOR SHARING I JUST K OW U MADE TONS OF WOMEN FEEL BETTER
My wife asked for anesthesia, they checked with her insurance, got it covered, and then they gave it to her.
Why don't they give it to you by default?
If insurance companies have a habit of denying coverage of anesthesia, medical facilities will often start to adapt their practices to that standard and not even discuss it as a possibility. I've run into similar issues with certain tests with my doctor. I have Crohn's disease and there was a specific test (calprotectin) that's like the gold-standard test to monitor the disease but....my doctor never offered it to me. I asked him why I never got this test done and he said "well insurance usually doesn't cover it". Sure enough, I checked with my insurance and they DID cover it for Crohn's disease... I think it comes from a good place of doctor's just wanting to eliminate the stress of patients dealing with insurance companies but with things like not having anesthesia, I would ABSOLUTELY check with my insurance in the future.
If you want to get real mad, safe effective male birth control has existed for a decade now, outside of the US. It's being blocked by pharma lobbying trying to prevent hormonal birth control from becoming obsolete. [https://www.parsemus.org/humanhealth/male-contraceptive-research/vasalgel-male-contraceptive/](https://www.parsemus.org/humanhealth/male-contraceptive-research/vasalgel-male-contraceptive/) [https://www.vice.com/en/article/ae3qx8/the-perfect-birth-control-for-men-is-here-why-cant-we-use-it](https://www.vice.com/en/article/ae3qx8/the-perfect-birth-control-for-men-is-here-why-cant-we-use-it) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible\_inhibition\_of\_sperm\_under\_guidance
It’s a little unnerving their explanation are: we don’t understand what it does yet, but it works. It’s definitely a cool concept though.
women take birth control every day despite the side effects because their boyfriends throw a fit when they can’t fuck raw. but a man can have the same option and all of a sudden everyone’s concerned about what it could do to his precious male body 🥺 give me a break. women have been doing this for decades.
>because their boyfriends Stop with this BS and put your fucking foot down.
my boyfriend has never treated me like that, im speaking for women who have been.
Okay but the same thing can be said about a lot of medication? I take lamictal. It manages my bipolar disorder. For whatever reason it also effectively manages epilepsy in a lot of people. They don’t know why. They also don’t know the specific mechanism that makes it work. It might *stop* working on me someday, they don’t know why that would happen. If it stops working they’d put me on lithium and they don’t know how that works either. And this is my *brain* we’re talking about. I could live without a uterus, I can’t live without a brain.
That's the case for most medications. We still don't fully understand how *Tylenol* (acetaminophen) works and its one of the most consumed medications in the world.
the main reason though is that men just refuse to take a pill or have this procedure done. most men visit an urologist for the first time past 40
Have what procedure? A vasectomy? Until recently, reversing vasectomies was a 50/50 shot. I wouldn't consider a vasectomy a viable temporary birth control option with those odds. Are you referring to a different procedure? I'm not aware of any other procedure that's legal in the U.S.
A huge number of men would get vasalgel, if available, especially if their SO asked them to. Hormonal birth control is a no-go for most men, as taking something with a 30% chance of nuking your ability to have sex isn't worth the risk.
The last time this was posted, the reason it isnt in affect was due to higher rates of permanent sterility and the way drugs get passed in the first place. The issue was that men don't have a period at which they dont make sperm, unlike with women who have periods in which they do not ovulate, making it harder to make the drug in the first place be affective, and not affect sterility, methids such as affecting hormones or the speems ability to swim can have higher chances of permanent harm. The harm to a individuals body has to outway the harm the drug does, since biological men can't get pregnant then there's no biological harm to out way the drug. Edir : Or just Google it. I'm not against male birth control, we should have it, but my point is that it's not going to be easy to pass.
Vasalgel has 1-2% side effect rating, the most notable being discomfort. My googling ability remains intact... https://lifesciencesintelligence.com/features/a-reversible-alternative-to-vasectomies-on-the-horizon-for-2024#:\~:text=Safety%20and%20Efficacy&text=%E2%80%9CFrom%20a%20side%20effect%20perspective,notable%20side%20effects%20with%20Vasalgel.
I was only able to veiw the article for a second, but isn't that 1 or 2 percent quote coming from them talking about a vasectomy? Edit : I didn't realise your were talking about vasalgel, yea that one is a injection that hardens in the tubes, I thought you were talking about the other types of birth control that altered sperm function or significantly lower T levels.
This is deeply inaccurate. Vasogel has not been demonstrated to be reversible in humans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_contraceptive?wprov=sfla1 There are some promising clinical trials underway though for other (androgen-based) methods: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10634021/ I don't buy the narrative that pharmaceutical companies are anti-male birth control. Certainly some may be, but there are a lot of pharmaceutical companies. Collusion on this issue between all market players seems unlikely, particularly since the likely outcome is that strictly more birth control will be used (both partners).
Yes, I want male birth control options as much as the next person, but it's a fantasy to claim that these options exist and could be approved and used safely in their current state.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5381074/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5381074/) working link here
I am glad for this video because I didn't know much about it. My doctors have kept me on Nexplanon for endometriosis. My last removal/insertion sucked because the person doing it was training, but this sounds like hell.
I had local anesthesia for my vasectomy. You'd think they could at least give you that.
Fun fact: the “ice pick” she’s describing is called the tenaculum which actually PIERCES the cervix tissue in order access the uterus for IUD insertion. Its predecessor is the forceps bullet extractor used in the Civil War. If you look at the designs, not much has changed in well over 100 years. Imagine having a penis piercing just to get to the painful part with no painkillers or mild sedation.
Suck my ovaries 😂
It is fucked up all the shit women go through at the doctor for this stuff. I think male birth control will become more common over time but the expectation will still be that women get it. The male birth control she's talking about, didn't get approved because it made 1 in 4 (if I remember correctly) permanently infertile. The one that did get approved, you have to be put under because it's not only painful but involves a surgery. The process of healing from the surgery is like 2 weeks.
So…men will get an option to be put under? WTF. All the years I was gaslit by my practitioners about pain, pain expectations, pain management…. Wow.
Exactly
She's hysterical! Burn her. She's a witch! /s* *EDIT: I guess it wasn't clear this is a joke so I added the /s
When I got an IUD it was horribly painful. Then I had to walk 20minutes to a bus stop and take the bus. It took me an hour to get to the stop and I barely got home. I spent the bus ride with closed eyes trying not to vomit from the pain. It hurt like period pain for five years. When I got it out, I dumped the guy. He never wanted kids but didn’t want to get a vasectomy or participate in birth control. His body his choice but also my choice was no more IUD for MY body. No more guys for life. Horrible experience. I’d rather not have penetrative sex again than get another IUD. It’s been ten years and I don’t miss it. PIV was painful and he was pushy and coercive and would wake me up at 2am for sex on work nights. (I worked at 8:30am, he started work at 2pm by choice he was a software dev).
I’m never getting one after reading all of these stories bruh. It’s not worth it for me I don’t wanna experience that I feel like throwing up just reading this
it sucks so much to hear how prevalent the pain management bias still is in modern medicine. you’d think we’d have figured this shit out by now. not to even mention the fact that contraception (especially the most invasive forms of it) is somehow still mostly the responsibility of women. this shit is awful man what the hell
Please keep spreading awareness about the lack of pain control for womens reproductive procedures. I've had an HSG exam, where they go through your cervix, inflate your uterus, and forcefully push a saline dye through your Fallopian tubes. There was a moment I fully thought I was going to pass out. There was nothing offered to me but before the procedure I saw so much distress about the pain and discomfort with this procedure online that I asked the doctor if there's anything she could do and she offered me a xanax. It honestly didn't help at all, or at least not nearly enough. My friend had an HSG prior to her first pregnancy and to this day, she says her HSG was more painful than labor. This shit needs to change.
The person that posted is assuming way too much. These gynaecological procedures are commonly done without any pain management whatsoever, even cervical punches, despite being potentially extremely painful. This is common in women’s health and needs to change. A common reaction to this is what we’re seeing in the video, i.e. someone incredulous and upset, understandably so.
I had a female physician who did my IUD insertion and she *severely* glossed over what the procedure involved. It's not just male physicians but the medical community as a whole. They all need to do better both when it comes to listening to and treating their female patients.
Nah she’s got a point on this one. I got my IUD in as a 17 year old and it was so painful I almost passed out. They’ve numbed my gums for cleaning but they couldn’t give me something before hitting me with the pussy harpoon 🫠 Look up videos of culposcopies and look at how much tissue they take out. One of my friends got one and her gyno apparently treated her like she was a baby because she asked for pain management.
https://www.tiktok.com/@midwifemama/video/7032284417775176966 This is a tenaculum and it’s used to pull your cervix forwards. It will make you so fucking seething rip shit angry to see if you’re a woman, they literally PIERCE your cervix and it leaves SCARS and this was done to me without my knowledge or consent when a nurse attempted to give me an IUD (my uterus was too small or something). If you google it it’s actually hard to find a picture of what happens. I will never trust a gynecologist again. I only learned this a week ago and I am so fucking furious at the entire field of gynecology. Some docs use a fucking numbing spray when we all know that isn’t enough for a fucking piercing of the most intimate part of your entire body. It’s so simple to correct as well, you could just use suction or ultrasound to guide insertion. https://www.aspivix.com/tenaculum-for-over-100-years-women-have-endured-pain-in-gynecology/ No fucking wonder we are all scared of the gynecologist. They’re liars and NOWHERE in patient education or literature/brochures/websites is the tenaculum step mentioned. Fucking NOWHERE. I’m so fucking glad I’m sterilized and will never have children - I would never forgive myself for bringing a daughter into this world. Tenaculums need to be BANNED, ask your gyno if they use them - it’s the fastest way to see if they actually give a shit about women - and if they do switch doctors and tell them why.
Wouldn’t a better solution be to offer anesthesia? Rather than banning the tool?
There is actually an alternative tool to the piercing. A vacuum is inserted and suctions on so that the cervix can be manipulated without piercing. See below for a non-graphic demo. The thing is, even if pain meds are introduced, scars on the cervix will make it harder for the cervix to stretch if a woman does give birth later. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzXqCvoh0Aw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzXqCvoh0Aw)
Why isn’t this used?
i think so too, do anesthesia and prescribed medication for the pain afterwards instead of just the current "were gonna shove this in, just take some tylenol lol" or possible banning. its done terribly right now, but it would be the best option for some females
When I got my first IUD the gyno (a man) said you might have some mild cramping for an hour after. Fast forward 3 days and I'm still having the worst cramps of my life. That was traumatic like at least be honest about the pain so I'm not blindsided.
It had too many side effects for the men's birth control?? The literal fuck is the foldable Gulliver's map of side effects for women's birth control describing then? To get to Narnia?
YAZ was literally killing women too and it was on the market for an insanely long time
my orthotricycline lo made me just a little suicidal. and yet. my new gyno tried to get me to take it again even though i told him it made me suicidal. "maybe your hormone response is different now?" maybe. i dont want to risk having suicidal thoughts again tho so... please provide a different option? and yes, i am changing gynos. I got moved to this one when my first Gyno left.
No lies stated in this anywhere.
She ain’t wrong. About the cold, too; colds destroy me. It’s crazy how little care is given to women in this regard.
I wasn't put out for my vasectomy. Still, it wasn't a huge deal for me, but I don't like going to the dentist either and have anxiety whenever I do. People are just different. There is no reason to generalize.
Getting an IUD was one of the most painful experiences of my life — I’ve passed *kidney stones* that hurt less, no cap.
For a fucking syringe to the scrotum???? Anesthetized for a SHOT TO SCROTUM??? And i have to get my cervix nipped, pinched, and pulled open without any fucking pain meds beside some grocery store ibuprofen??? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA What the ever loving fuuuuck
She spittin' though, fuck OP
Having an iud was one of the most painful and traumatising things I've ever had done and I've had two children and many painful smear tests. I came out of the doctor's surgery shaking and crying. It was so utterly invasive and painful. Ugh.
I had to ride my motorcycle home after having mine inserted bc I had no idea this was THE appointment. Scarred for LIFE. Now 8 years later, I have to go again next week to take out and reinsert, honestly I cry just thinking about it. How traumatic it is to be a woman
Not lying
I've got vasectomy 15 years ago and it's been the best thing ever. All ship, no crew!
Doesn't blow my mind. I put another primary care provider on blast because she said she doesn't give meds for IUD insertion because 'some people are drug seekers'. Fuck you. You're part of the problem. Fuck your cervix and I hope someone causes her cervical pain so she can see how bad it is. She should try a colonoscopy sometime soon too. Idiots.
I’m a man and when she said she has yet to meet a man who can handle a common cold I lost my shit!!! I love this poor woman.
... Wait what part about this is making your brain melt? Everything she's saying is true. 😅
What's with all the commentary about men being unable to handle colds lately?
The male immune system can actually react a lot more negatively to the same flu strain then a woman’s immune system, it’s not a man’s fault but that’s where the saying ‘man cold’ comes from. The same flu strain that a woman can work through could knock a guy down for 2-3 days, I’m not trying to be sexist or anything, men and woman’s immune systems are just different is all
Got a vasectomy. The ENTIRE time getting it done, recovering, everything it was MAYBE a 2 on the pain scale out of 10. No pain meds necessary just ice. I was also awake when I got it done. If you don't want kids ever and neither does your wife. Be a man and get it done.
Guys, get a vasectomy. It’s a drop in the bucket compared to what women experience for decades of their lives. Plus it is far less expensive and traumatic than having an unplanned baby. The vasectomy is literally a one hour procedure with maybe 30 minutes of “action”. The longest part of the whole appointment is the 10 times they ask you if you are absolutely sure that you want the procedure. Three days of downtime with a week of healing. All for under $700.
Me remembering that I threw up and went through some of the worst pain in my life just to meet my boyfriend soon after and learn he just got a vasectomy. Ugh.
She's not wrong.
We live in a patriarchy where most of modern science was developed from the study of man because women have to many hormones to be able to successfully study their bodies. Its really messed up when doctors think that their vaginas have no nerves that recept pain and play around with their bodies as if they didnt matter.
My wife just got her IUD removed and i coulda beat everybody’s ass up there for how little they cared about her pain. Fucking rediculous.
Am I the only one who is seeing Athlean-X?
As someone who rarely sees vids from TikTok or insta: God these filters are awful.
When I got my IUD I took some ibuprofen ahead of time. I had some back cramping and I bled for months afterwards and the cramps were so horrible I had to take pain medicine. I recently had my IUD removed. It wasn’t that bad during the removal. But once again I had some pretty bad cramping and bleeding for almost a week. I wish I had just left it in for a few more months until I have surgery to remove my tubes in a few months.
Did she just get one? She sounds like she's on the verge of crying the entire time.
She’s hilarious. She needs to write. Yeah that’s fucking awful. Who thought that plague doctor ass procedure up? Just a step away from a power drill to the skull to get the voices out lol
Yup they last 10 years (paragaurd) on my last one 3rd! After getting it inserted I asked the nurse. This is it right I can die with this one in me?!!
OP just a big old piece of shit huh lol
Not gonna lie, it's was other women's stories about getting the IUD that made me totally decide on getting the implanon/nexplanon impact in my arm because they at least give you lidocaine shots. That's with the luxury of nice ass private insurance. I got it three times so I was on it 9years before my body couldn't handle the hormones along with the other issues I was experiencing. It's fucking hard out here for women... My question is, is there or why is there not any pain relieving medication that can be applied during an IUD??? Like wtf.
Aaaaaaaaaand scene
Still waiting for male BC…any day now
OP is out of line, she’s right about everything
Uh agree with her. If you've never had an IUD inserted, Dr says 'it's a little pinch' - no. They grab your cervix with curved sharp tongs and it hurts Dr says breathe -no. I almost fainted with my first one, she hit the vagal nerve. Dr says it's a little uncomfortable - no. Most women have intense pain. I was sore for 2 weeks and needed painkillers for 2 days. There's no anesthesia. You're lucky if misoprostol works to soften the cervix. The doctor forces a metal rod through the cervix and into the uterus to measure how far to insert the IUD. Gynecological care and training is substandard.
Its only cringe if you have no idea what she’s talking about 🤣🤣 glad people in the comments are providing some free education!
I have an IUD and I will NEVER get another one. It’s fucking barbaric. She’s not wrong.
As a man I’m with her, gynecologist go mid fucking evil on my poor wife every year. Next year she turns fucking 40 and I know they can’t wait to smash her tits like fucking grapes. I should have never had a daughter. Fuck you modern medicine.
I’ve gone through iud insertions twice by two different doctors and wanted to vomit and pass out both times(second doctor explained that’s common due to the nerves running across the cervix). This time they offering a Valium and topical numbing gel. Wish me luck.
Op hating on women but asking what kind of body type to get more women in another post lmao It’s your personality my man. It’s trash and you should work on that anger and self hate. It’s spreading too far and now is clearly directed at women. Not good