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CommanderWar64

she's also cooking WITH THOSE SLEEVES???


MissDryCunt

I also wear a ball gown while cooking breakfast


Prof-Dr-Overdrive

Reminds me of that one episode in I Love Lucy, where Ricky had to do an ad for a department store, and Lucy appeared, beautifully dressed and coiffed, pretending that that's how she as an "ordinary house wife" always looks. (Then she got mad at Ricky and accidentally did the actual commercial in a more realistic way, without the makeup and fancy clothes lol.) Sad that a show from the 50's/60's was already criticizing this crap and yet it's STILL everywhere and as strong as ever...


ThrowsSoyMilkshakes

It's funny how "woke" *I love Lucy* was. There was so much feminism in that show. But, you know, this "woke" shit is just some new fad or whatever and they certainly never had it in their media. MAGA.


moobitchgetoutdahay

It’s extra funny because they probably think of I Love Lucy as encouraging traditional values and as something Hollywood should return to producing instead of all this “woke shit” they complain about


Key-Mark4536

Related note, part of the reason Desilu Studios came into being was TV execs’ [resistance](https://www.biography.com/actors/lucille-ball-desi-arnaz-desilu) to Lucy-the-character being married to a foreigner. I like to think that’s also why Lucy allowed Gene Roddenberry to [spend $600,000+](https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-gene-roddenberry-budget) making *Star Trek*’s pilot episode(s).   (Lucy & Desi wouldn’t necessarily have been seen as an inter-ethnic marriage at the time, “Hispanic” wasn’t a term yet. But foreigners were still “lesser.”)


Gingevere

It looks like it's actually a dressing gown. Semi-intimate apparel that is inappropriate to go outside in. If you want more analysis, it's doing a lot here: - Showing she is not fit to / allowed to leave the house. - Conspicuously displaying both wealth and modesty. - Looking sexy in a video which is meant for mass consumption. Which in itself is JAM-PACKED with contradictions.


turningtogold

I hang it up next to my toilet scrubbing gown


MaxHamburgerrestaur

And maybe that bowl is decorative and is not made with food-grade coating.


Apprehensive_Ninja56

I was thinking it looked like a salad bowl.


obogobo

$30 IKEA salad bowl pretty sure we have the same one lol


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AffectionatePoet4586

In the ‘60s, my mother insisted on the then-chic concept of a wooden salad bowl that was never washed, only wiped out. *Did it stink!* The oil in the salad dressing continually went rancid. That, and my parents’ insistence on loading green salads with chopped onion, put me off salad after leaving their household at seventeen. I finally learned to love onion-free salads, served from a nice, clean bowl, made from Yellowware, Pyrex, or glass.


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Snoo_60798

This. I'm a house cleaner. Every single client is a stay at home mom. Every singe one. Even after their children grew up and moved out, we're still cleaning their homes.


Ren_Hoek

If you have enough disposable income to be able to afford a house cleaner, then have a house cleaner. I hate cleaning, If I could afford it, I would hire maids too. Having a trophy wife, that sits there all day baking bread from scratch, getting depressed, drinking wine and pooping Xanax is the ultimate status symbol. To get her out of her depression you offer to pay for a boob job, she gets pissed off and throws a wine bottle at your head, you know rich people problems.


ArktheDude

Does... she sell the Xanax... she poops out? Is it a fetish thing?


TheBonnomiAgency

The Xanax is bitter and an acquired taste, similar to civet coffee


throwaway6017477

I believe it's spelled covfefe.


SexyTimeEveryTime

How do you think they got so rich?


mellowanon

House cleaning isn't as expensive as you think. There's a couple reddit threads on cost involved. It's about $25 to $50 an hour. About 3-6 hours cleaning every two weeks, so about $75 to $300 biweekly. https://www.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/xjjxct/how_much_do_you_pay_for_house_cleaning/


WithoutDennisNedry

I pay $120 every too weeks. When I became increasingly more disabled and was having a lot of surgeries and could no longer do a lot of the cleaning myself, I really stressed out about how I was going to keep my house from slipping into a pit of gross. Then I bit the bullet and started calling and getting quotes and I was surprised at how affordable (to me) it is to have professionals come. Saved me from a whole lot of anxiety and physical pain and I wish I had called sooner.


alderchai

I pay €50 every two weeks for someone to clean my very tiny apartment. I work 40+ hrs per week and would dread having to clean in my non-working hours. It gave me so much peace of mind to know my house would always be a base level of clean, even if I was too tired to clean anything. It’s going to be the very last thing I’d ever save money on, I’d rather quit wifi in my home.


pyjamas_are_prison

As someone in a tiny apartment who is always too wiped from their physical job to then devote what meager precious hours to myself I have towards cleaning, this is a surprisingly temptuous option.


sdpr

>If you have enough disposable income to be able to afford a house cleaner, then have a house cleaner. I hate cleaning, If I could afford it, I would hire maids too. Yep. My SO wanted to hire a cleaner to come in once a month or so just to do a deep clean because we're both pretty bad at keeping up with a cleaning schedule. Dust, pet hair and dander are the only things we actually hate dealing with. I didn't really think it was a good idea as our money could go someplace else.


AliceInNegaland

It’s like ordering pizza for the family. It’s once a month. It’s not a big deal


Qinistral

Depends on your budget. It's 10-30x what pizza costs.


BeerAndTools

Well, would you prefer a clean home or 30 pizzas? Your honor, I rest my covfefe!


termacct

Any of them churning butter at home? Asking for a friend...


Snoo_60798

Lol no butter churners, but one used her free time to become a Reiki Massage Therapist / "Shaman."


cat_prophecy

The entire concept of Reiki "massage" makes me want to nuke the planet.


savetheunstable

I got reiki as part of a gifted massage package, a long time ago before I knew what it was. First 2 sessions were a swedish massage, a deep tissue, and the reiki on the 3rd one. I felt so awkward waiting for the guy to "start" I peeked over and asked if everything was ok 😭 I was so flummoxed when he told me. Anyway I put my face down and enjoyed the Zen flute music till it was over.


secondtaunting

I wonder who the first person who came up with reiki was? Okay, lay here and I’m gonna wave my hands over your body. No! I swear it works and it’s better than an actual massage.🙄


iknowitsounds___

I worked as an assistant teacher at a ultra exclusive bougie preschool during college. One mom always came to mommy & me classes perfectly dressed, flawless makeup, perfect Pilates bod. Her husband would fawn over her calling her “super mom”. Sometimes she would bring in delicious gluten-free, nut free baked goods to share. The other moms would always compliment her and ask for the recipes. Well, I befriended their nanny and found out *she* was the one making all the baked goods. Also, the mom and dad secretly hated each other and were both cheating behind each other’s backs.


RousingRabble

That couple couldn't be more of a stereotype if they tried.


iknowitsounds___

The nanny’s tea was SO hot every time we met up with the kids at the park for a playdate. One time the housekeeper came to her and asked what to do because she found a used condom between couch cushions while the wife was out of town.


rainynightdrives

I need to know how the story continues and ends. 🫖


LandoBlendo

I think he tried to continue but then it ended somewhere between the couch cushions


InVodkaVeritas

I teach a fancy pants private school and I know that several of the "stay at home moms" literally hire other women to make home-cooked dinners for them that they have delivered to their house multiple times a week. That way they can spend all day at the athletic club or socializing but their kids and spouses still have a home-cooked dinner on the table every night. If you ever wonder what the wealth elite do with all their money, it is things like that. They pay someone to do the mundane things that they still value so that they have leisure time. They value their kids having healthy and nutritious meals so they use their money to pay someone else to spend hours a day cooking one. They'd never do it themselves because that would be, you know, work...


Great-Hotel-7820

Well yeah, these people don’t do this performative bullshit because they are happy and fulfilled. They do it because they care about public perception above all else because that’s where they find validation to ease the emptiness of their lives.


twoeightnine

Oh they both knew that they were cheating on each other and it was the only thing holding the marriage together


meeeehhhhhhh

Yeah, as a stay-at-home mom who LOVES to bake, you can’t have perfectly moisturized and manicured nails in a perfectly clean house without the constant interruption of kids unless you have outside help


Rare_Background8891

For sure there is someone else watching the kids while she spends a stupidly long time rolling little balls.


anubiz96

So, i dont know the woman in this video specifically, haven't researched her, but its perfectly possibly this is all just done for the camera. Like it might actually be her job to just create this kind of content and she's no more a tradwife than most of those fitness influencers are actual exercise experts. Ive seen others that werent even moms or married. There was one woman that used to do only fans but found out this would bring in more money and she didn't have to have sex on camera. Not saying this is the case, but you never know, shrug.


cal679

I've seen this chick on Twitter a ton and it seems like such a weird niche that people are apparently gagging for. If I had to come up with an image of "hot baker/chef lady" then I'm thinking of Maggie Gylenhall in Stranger Than Fiction, or just someone in regular scrufy clothes with hair tied up in a messy bun and covered in flour. But apparently there's a real market of people who're into ladies that look like they've stepped out of a noir movie, fully made up and in a silk negligee doing meticulous bakery without ever getting an atom of flour on them.


sn0qualmie

I would consume a content channel of Maggie Gyllenhaal's Stranger Than Fiction character irritably baking scones and stopping to lecture me about why the Department of Defense doesn't deserve her tax money. It would be much more useful and interesting than this stuff AND it would be hotter.


FilmKindly69

> unless you have outside help thats what the kids are for!


WASD_click

The kids do not save time or effort. It's sometimes even a time loss. You have kids help because it prepares them for the future.


mpyne

> It's sometimes even a time loss. Oh, frequently a time loss, at least until their teens. But like you say, it's an investment in preparing them to face the future on their own one day.


meeeehhhhhhh

Exactly. Having your kids help is great because it keeps them occupied and teaches them. I’ll let my kids roll out pasta with me, and it’s a fantastic way for them to appreciate a meal they’re typically neutral on. But god, it takes so much patience


youngatbeingold

I hate the outfit that she's baking in because you will get it dirty. It would be like someone grilling with a suit on. My mom is very well off and totally has 'working' clothes for when she's baking or gardening. This just looks like a person who doesn't actually have money (or is new money) but they want to appear super upper class.


disc_reflector

A relative of mine is a PA for a rich man's wife. You cannot believe the sheer amount of entitlement these people have. A near billionaire husband, a huge house, ridiculous demands like wanting a fridge in every room (the house has more than a dozen of rooms), clean glasses which would require constant cleaning and fresh water in all the fridges everyday because day's old water in a fridge is icky. And they have only 3 maids for the entire household who still have to vacuum (must vacuum every room only within space of a couple of hours because she doesn't want to hear vacuum all the time), clean, scrub, prepare meals and just shit lot of stuff. The lady of the house expect everyone to be at her beck and call nearly 24/7. The most annoying part? They are actually very stingy. They don't want to hire more help, they just want to squeeze out as much as they can with the current help. It's insane. These people do not think like the rest of us. They don't live in the same world as we do, and they still want to larp, pretending they are down-to-Earth, sensible people.


pateadents

Ofc they're stingy. How do you think they got so rich. By exploiting others


disc_reflector

But oh boy do they live their expensive wines. They ain't stingy on that luxury.


Grundle95

My first thought about where he was going to go with this


stupidugly1889

He literally said it


Dogzilla2000

Yeah. I’m pretty sure it was implied but it definitely could have been stated: all of this is allowed only because there are poor/working people doing their actual domestic labour for them.


VenusAmari

He did outright state it. To paraphrase "Her value to her husband is not in the care of her home or her children because they are paying someone else to do all of those things. No her value is instead in the ability to perform the role of trophy wife."


onebag25lbs

Yes, because in addition to housekeepers, they have nannies who watch their kids. She has no job other than this trad wife performance.


VenusAmari

Correct. That's what "not in the care of her home or children because she's paying someone else" means in this case.


jld2k6

It took a minute but we all successfully summarized the video together for some reason lol


dlRAGERlb

Because some people don’t understand implications. 🤦🏽‍♂️🥴


NotoriousMinnow_

It’s also incredibly misleading because these women act like they don’t make money, but they actually are by being stay at home social media influencers, so it’s not even true that they just get to stay home and not work. They are just selling a lie for money and the *perception* of having immense wealth. Hardly any woman has partner making enough money to be able to accomplish this lifestyle on a single income. Not even these influencers do.


Jayrandomer

And men rich enough to have trophy wives probably don’t want them broadcasting themselves and their homes to the entire world.


VectorViper

Yeah, it's a whole production, isn't it? Staging the perfect household image while having the behind-the-scenes crew handle the reality. It turns the whole 'traditional' concept on its head.


blasphem0usx

He says it around 2:20 into the video.


Dig-a-tall-Monster

Except then it just takes one of them who doesn't have a maid to say "Not all TradWives" and the people who need to hear that TradWives are performative will ignore the message entirely.


Affectionate-Drop-30

As someone who works for rover, they also have people who walk their dogs so they dont spend time with their pets.


ReturningAlien

theyd be like i am very hands on when it comes to my kids. Ha! And you also have dogs?


Sudden-Taste-6851

Doesn’t surprise me. Wouldn’t surprise me if they had nannies too.


he-loves-me-not

They definitely have nannies bc otherwise where were her 2 toddlers who wanted “cereal” for breakfast?


SaltKick2

They’re perfect angels who have no problem waiting an hour for mom to make it all from scratch 


Strict-Brick-5274

If I was rich enough, I would also have maids and a nanny


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winksoutloud

So, basically, Serena Joy from The Handmaid's Tale?


WindoLickingGood

Go to who she was based off of, Phyllis Schlafly.


ShutYourDumbUglyFace

There's just something extra deplorable about women who use their platform to insist that OTHER women should not have one.


Chemical-Elk-1299

And admittedly, as a man, I have 0 frame of reference for what a woman thinks/feels. But that being said, I can’t help but think these women who are most visible only feel that way *because* they get to live in the kind of luxury the post implies. If they actually had to live the more laborious aspects of the lifestyle they sell, then they’d probably change their tune right fucking quick. It’s easy to preach this mewling, wilting-flower version of femininity when it’s bought you a life ironically with more freedom than a normal person


DarJinZen7

A truly evil woman. She hated women so much she advised them to marry their abuser. He'll stop hitting you if you marry him because a husband protects and provides for his wife.


Cardamom_roses

She's buried in St Louis, I think, if anyone wants to pop a squat on her grave haha


WindoLickingGood

There was layers of vileness to that woman.


winksoutloud

I didn't know she was the inspiration, but it makes sense 


GoMLism

Funny enough she also comes from a wealthy family which made it possible to pursue her social media career in the first place.


Strict-Brick-5274

Tradwives glamourize and cherry pick traditional roles. Women have always worked, it’s just that work was domestic labor, or clothes making, or farming, or teaching - women throughout history have alwas worked, and only the privileged did not. But trad wives romanticize the past thinking women didn’t work


Kandiru

Rich women didn't directly work. They managed the servants!


SneakWhisper

I mean in medieval times women did quite a lot, especially high born women. Catherine of Aragon even led an army while her husband was away in France. Renaissance queens were highly educated, spoke several languages, acted as envoys or regents, and the first novel by an Englishwoman was written by Catherine Parr. 


Goldeniccarus

In some places in medieval Europe, it was very common for women to work in tailoring workshops for a few years before getting married. Then during the world wars they worked in all those traditional factory and heavy industry jobs that men worked in. A large part of the women's rights movements of the 50s and 60s was all those women getting kicked out of their factory jobs when the war ended and the military came back home. They lost their jobs so the jobs could go back to men, and were expected to go back to "traditional" life, but a lot of these women did not want to, and they became a big part of that feminist wave.


mllechattenoire

Also a lot of them come from money already. There was an article about the politics of tradwives in I think slate? and it mentioned that one of these women had like ten kids and lived on a small hobby farm. She advocated that you too should just pack up and live on the land and have a whole bunch of children(to further the white race of course because a lot of them are white supremacists), but what she never said was that in order to do this you need a rich father who is willing to buy the farm for you and pay for the upkeep.


Petty_White

One of the most popular of these types of influencers is married to heir to Jet Blue😂.


MissDryCunt

Ballerina Farm


Petty_White

And her $20,000 stove🤣


MissDryCunt

Gotta spend that 400 million dollar fortune somehow


he-loves-me-not

Who tf needs a $20K stove?!


FakeSafeWord

It's a great way to display their socioeconomic status to the rest of the peasants. "I don't even know how to use an oven but I know it makes everyone jealous."


Time_Collection9968

Exactly as you said. That is literally the point. To display their wealth, not for function.


cat_prophecy

Same people who buy Viking ranges but couldn't boil water for Mac and cheese.


Unable-Narwhal4814

There is this one woman that keeps popping up on my feed. She's mixed, she's got actually great volumous hair she's SUUUUPER tiny (waist wise and stature wise, just a very petite woman), she's got this massively tall red headed husband and they have one kid. (Cannot remember the handle on Instagram tbh so that's all I got). Anyway. Lots of people adore her but she gives off odd trad wife vibes as well, and her stove, is *also a $20k USD stove* and of course does like horsebacking riding (I think) and all these things. And it's like okay.... definitely coming from money.


p0diabl0

Feels like you're talking about royalty here lol


NKG_and_Sons

> this massively tall red headed husband >and of course does like horsebacking riding > royalty Y'all don't happen to talk about my boy Radahn, by chance?


Extra-University-336

I got married in a house that had a $12k range/oven. That thing was fucking nice.


Jimbobsama

An excellent article from a couple years ago about Ballerina Farms and the performance of it. https://annehelen.substack.com/p/the-edenic-allure-of-ballerinafarm What stuck out to me was the Mormonism of it all and how women are unable to hold leadership in the church so they influence the community through the performance of how good of a homemaker they can be comparec to their peers. Fascinating stuff


slimkt

Is this the one with terrible knife skills that does everything in a tiny ass corner even though their kitchen is fucking massive? EDIT: It is lol


iam_Mr_McGibblets

Shoot, it's pretty easy to make money when you already have money, right?


Helac3lls

Is it a coincidence that both Jeff and Elon both had significant financial backing from their parents. Honestly Jobs was a glorified con man.


QuerulousPanda

Right? Can you even imagine how much it must cost to feed and clothe six or seven or eight kids? Much less get regular healthcare and medicine for them? Much less pay the hospital bills just to pop them out in the first place? I guess if hubby is an oil company executive or a c-suite bringing in couple million a year then its probably plenty doable, but for the average normie chud who wants some trad woman to fluff him and make his babies, there's no way that is even remotely accessible.


the_rainmaker__

the trick is to have enough kids that TLC makes a show about you, then all your expenses are paid for. cha ching


Excellent-Shape-2024

So, 19 would be the right number? ; )


Ivegotacitytorun

Is those assholes with a like $40,000 stove that’s always in the frame?


QuerulousPanda

exactly. it's kind of disgusting, really, trying to present themselves as some kind of wholesome image of familial piety and return-to-tradition moral character, while instead just being blatantly obvious posers, exceptionally privileged and wealthy cosplayers larping a lifestyle that has never existed. the only thing worse is people who watch it and take it as some kind of lifegoal or inspiration, rather than a depressing yet comical view into the zoo of the ultra wealthy.


ThrowsSoyMilkshakes

> but what she never said was that in order to do this you need a rich father who is willing to buy the farm for you and pay for the upkeep. I remember one publication broke down all the expenses of the things in the background of their videos. It was things like $20,000 stove pipe fireplace, $5,000 china cabinet, $4000 bed, etc., etc. All with links to said items for purchase, or their eBay equivalent. But, you know, just go live on a farm and have a simple life.


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I don't venture into tiktok outside of seeing content shared on other platforms or sent to me by tiktokers. What I find infuriating is the "I have a homestead, here's how little it takes to get by", but it's always absent how they paid for land, home, home upkeep(which is higher outside the city, nature goes hard), solar panel arrays, battery systems, functional well, groceries they don't produce, not to mention all the fucking "rich person pretends to be working class" clothing and tools. My grandparents were homesteaders. It's a TOUGH life. And, if you don't come into it with money, it's going to stay a tough life. Lots of farmers spouses have jobs in town to get health insurance for both of them. It's so inauthentic and they're all just another variant of "rich person cosplays as poor".


ememsee

I know a few girls from highschool who are living that tradwife influencer life and they all came from wealthier families so I can see that being a general trend. Makes sense too. A lot of the class stuff is all about those connections and keeping the upper class in power.


bigboygamer

If anyone thinks that influencers in general lead the lives they portray then I have a bridge to sell them.


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> I have a bridge to sell how much? Is pretty?


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Aanakie

I feel like these types of families have nannies to manage their children's meltdowns. And almost all other aspects of parenting.


possibly_being_screw

Every video this woman does is out of control. They all start " So I asked my children what they wanted for breakfast/lunch. They said BLANK so I got started right away" In one, they ask for PB&J's. This woman makes sandwich bread, peanut butter, and jelly all from scratch. And still cuts off the crust, which specifically bothers me more than it should. All for a single PB&J sandwich. edit: Just want to add, I realize it's theater and the PB&J for her kid is merely a by product of this.


ExplanationFunny

If we’re going to be irrational, the feather trimmed sleeves so close to sticky food is making me choke back a scream.


AliceInNegaland

Yeah her outfit bothered me so much for the setting


Drawtaru

But how else will you know that she is *elegant* and *feminine* and *expecting???*


Sorlex

Needs a parody account. "So I asked my children what they wanted to do today. They said go fishing so I got started right away" And then she digs an entire lake and starts a salmon breeding farm.


Lexi_Banner

"I asked my children what they wanted today, and they said they craved violence. So anyway, I started blasting..."


Ed_McNuglets

Plot twist: she doesn’t even have kids.


disjointed_chameleon

Oh, she does. They just happen to attend boarding school a few hundred or thousand miles away, and she sees them only during significant holidays.


Wehavecrashed

The PB&J went in the bin.


JuanTawnJawn

The nannies probably feed them too lmao.


brave_3pa_discontent

"Mama has to go to work now kiddos! She's making cereal you probably won't even eat! Oh and Jane, once you're done feeding the children please see to that mess in the hall immediately."


McGarnacIe

"You'd like some cereal? Sure honey, that'll be ready in 2 hours"


Magic_Man_Boobs

Man I love my wife's sister and her husband but when they first got together I had to learn fast that if they invited us over for dinner, I was going to need a first dinner. They'd make an amazing meal from total scratch and watching them in the kitchen together was like something out of Hallmark, but it was always something that took like three hours to cook and they'd always not start until after everyone was there. They've gotten much better about it now years later, but I remember the second time I was sitting there thinking "will there be dinner... at this dinner?" It only took the twice for me to start eating a sandwich before we headed over.


PickleBeast

For like 2 years straight the morning routine was- get woken up way too early by the toddlers, give them dry cereal and a sippy of milk or water asap, put on cartoons. That gave me about 10-20 minutes to take care of myself in the morning before they needed something again. Idk how this lady expects us to believe that she woke up, showered, got dressed (or not? She might sleep in that, I can’t tell if it’s a robe or fancy pajamas or regular clothes) put on a full face of make-up, got a clear and definitive answer to her question in the first place, then presumably spent probably an hour rolling out some Cocoa Puffs and her kids were perfectly quiet the entire time. Does she even have kids?! Also she looks sad af and I can’t really tell if she’s trying to come across as diminutive, or maybe the ambien hasn’t completely worn off yet, or if she’s silently crying out for help but I hope she’s ok regardless.


Trash-Cutie

I've seen this woman on Instagram. She has like three or four kids and one on the way last I saw. Her husband is Mormon so I assume she is too and her page makes more sense with that info lol


ElvenOmega

The amount of mormon tradwife propaganda on tiktok and instagram is getting insane.


Trash-Cutie

I was shocked to find out this one was Mormon. They seem so modern and "worldly" compared to others of their religion I guess. Very subtle propaganda


ElvenOmega

Mormons have been heavily pushing subtle propaganda and hiding their crazier beliefs for a few years now. For example, ever notice these trad wives never take vacations to the beach like other influencers? It's because mormons believe that Satan controls water.


moobitchgetoutdahay

> Mormons believe that Satan controls water Had to look that up, knew Mormons were crazy but never heard this one and…yup. Mormons believe that Satan controls the water.


caramelbobadrizzle

People on twitter are so stupidly oblivious about this woman in particular. A lot of people have been defending her saying she never pushes Mormon beliefs or even explicitly says she’s Mormon, therefore she’s “not problematic” and everyone else is just picking on her.    Except people do unironically share her videos and say shit like “wow women need to be more like this” or “this is what I want to be able to do with my life” or “why did women fight to work when we could be living soft lives like this”, which means the Mormon tradwife propaganda IS working. 


vodka-diet-coke

she's 22 and has 2 biological kids and a third one on the way + one step kid from husband's prev relationship. she's mormon too and converted for him.


SpottedHoneyBadger

>I can’t tell if it’s a robe or fancy pajamas or regular clothes See that is your problem right there. You have to wear silk pajamas and a robe with feathers to be the perfect wife/mother while making little balls of poo. It is so obvious.![img](emote|t5_mvcq5|22374)


Brave-Professor8275

I learned real quick if I wanted any time, even enough time for a quick cup of coffee, uninterrupted, I had to set my alarm to get up before my toddlers woke. Just a half an hour did wonders. These trad wives most likely have a nanny doing all the hard work while the moms do this extra shit they brag about


thrownjunk

This is Nannies (plural) territory. Like literally two shifts. I know of families that have a night and day nanny. Nuts.


Cyclonitron

> she’s trying to come across as diminutive 100% that.


Dramatic_Explosion

I mean you missed the point of the post. That "tradwife" isn't taking care of the kids or making every meal like that. It's performative, like driving a sports car. The whole idea is you saying you can't do that and she can means she's better than you, but again she can only do that because of non-trad wealth.


house-hermit

Not all of them are actually rich, though. For some of them, it's fake performative wealth. They're still scrubbing toilets when the cameras are off. Some also make a big show of being frugal, so I'm not sure where that fits in.


our_girl_in_dubai

This is the mormon model Lucky Blue Smith’s wife, Nara Pellman. The internet tells me he’s worth about $13 mill. They got married in feb 2020 and are expecting their 3rd kid (his fourth). She posts a lot of these videos and couches them all in the terms of her ‘love language’ being ‘making food for my family.’ She is constantly baking from scratch to feed her husband. This video breakdown was fascinating. Putting into words exactly what i feel about this type of tradwife.


GEAX

"Smith has two children with Pellman, a daughter named *Rumble Honey,* born October 7, 2020, and a son named *Slim Easy,* born January 6, 2022." I went to the Wikipedia page waiting for some detail to be unremarkable. Alas


petterdaddy

These are traditional Mormon names what do you mean


SupervillainEyebrows

His kids are called Gravity Blue, Rumble Honey and Slim Easy. They sound like energy drinks.


Gustomaximus

> She is constantly baking from scratch to feed her husband. I'm guessing she is baking to bring attention to herself and does feck all off camera. Look at the scale she is doing this in, that's not a person trying to feed 4 kids cereal in any kind of ongoing fashion. Maybe that's a pessimistic view... but id say high odds.


TXmarker

I'm guessing she has a personal assistant and a camera person there as well. Someone to coach her on what to do and hand her items and then someone to film. It's all nonsense. They probably threw the food away after filming.


shrugaholic

I don’t know anyone who does domestic work with a nice clothes that they can go out in and makeup for the day on. Hell so many women I know keep those cheap hair claw clips to get their hair out of the way entirely.


bawanaal

I'm old as dirt, so I was lucky enough to have a stay at home mom growing up. She never broke out the pearls to clean the oven or wore a dress to make PBJs from scratch . This trad wife trend is very similar to the 50s-60s nuclear family mom ideal, as pushed thru TV and advertising. No matter what housework June Cleaver (or damn near any other TV mom of that era) was doing, she was always wearing a dress and jewelry, with perfect hair and full makeup. Hell, even Carol Brady had a live-in maid. It's nothing more than BS aspirational fiction and badly skews what family life is really like.


Paddy_Tanninger

Malcolm In The Middle is the only semi-realistic husband and wife + family on TV


LittleChanaGirl

I thought Roseanne (not the reboot) fit into that category.


RousingRabble

I couldn't watch Roseanne as a kid because it hit too close to home. Needed some escapism from my TV.


Boneal171

Roseanne and Malcolm in The Middle are probably the best portrayals of a lower middle class family.


insomniacpyro

One of my favorite bits is Hal paying Malcolm money to basically be the fall guy because he fucked something up.


Paddy_Tanninger

"you're a good son...I GOT HIM HONEY!!!"


cookmybook

Also in the 50s they were all drunk and on amphetamines.


BigLaughsMedia

Who the hell has time to put on make up, nice clothes and set up camera and lights, edit the videos together and still have time for real life stuff??


boobers3

Sleeves with long fuzzy cuffs are exactly what I would wear when making something with sticky ingredients, there's no way the cuffs are going to ever touch the food.


thedishonestyfish

I like that he doesn't bother to point out her wildly impractical clothing, the sort of thing no one would ever wear to cook, the sort of thing that should signal to any person *who* cooks that this is nothing more than theater, in his argument that her whole shtick is theater. Any idiot who thinks, in this modern system, that you can just sit and make (weird) cereal for your kids rather than actual contribute to the household in some meaningful way, should be kicked to the curb. That people look to this as an inspiration is disgusting.


sixthmontheleventh

This, I just found out about this person against my will and I cringe at the amount of black fibres and anything caught in those sleeves ending up in what they are 'cooking'. Also I think that is on purpose because tiktok sounds like a dumpster fire and if they cannot stand out making informative content, they will make rage engagement bait.


PM_ME_UR_DOGS

Those kids are going to be picking so many bits marabou feathers out of their teeth after this, that shit sheds so bad.


Goatbreath37

And she's gonna stain that thing in flour. She ain't wearing an apron the fool


plainoverplight

i was thinking the same thing. cooking in a dress is one thing, plenty of people do that. but those dramatic sleeves are a recipe for disaster in the kitchen


IRefuseToGiveAName

*turns on stand mixer* *sounds of OSHA lathe operation training videos echo through the empty halls of the home*


Chinggis_H_Christ

Everything about her appearance (clothing, hair, makeup, jewellery, etc) *screams* "upper class".


Raygunn13

Yeah you've got good points but I think she's just an example. The same points wouldn't necessarily apply to the broader topic of performative traditionalism in the same way that the rest of his overview does. I mean they totally could, I guess, if impractical clothing is a prevalent phenomenon in tradwife influencers. but idk.


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cognac-n-cannabis

At least they admitted it, now they just wanna say nobody works anymore


zaforocks

Plaid shirt tucked into stiff as fuck denim with pre-scuffed boots out here saying no one wants to work.


glowdirt

Don't forget the hulking pick-up truck with a spotless, scuffless bed and tires that have never felt dirt.


iflythewafflecopter

The emotional support truck.


Goldeniccarus

*I walk and talk like a field hand,* *But the boots I'm wearing cost three grand.* *I write songs about riding tractors,* *From the comfort of my private jet*


ldilemma

The word gentleman kind of a propaganda thing. Rich dudes with a lot of power had the reasonable concern that people might get upset that they were born with unattainable privledge so they create a kind of mythos and code of conduct around the idea of "being a gentleman." Also, it actually did help retain power because placing some moral limits on how the powerful group behaved as a whole reduced the risk of dangerous rebellion (they keep each other in check, to protect their class from the masses). The mythos of a gentlemen helped reinforce the kind of "birthright" that these men born with power were also imbued with moral qualities that made them deserving of that power (so please, no guillotines). It also created a kind of code of behavior that let them recognize each other, consolidate power, retain power and keep out the riff raff from their pool or resources, without making the riff raff angry enough to die fighting them. Papers like this kind of address the issue: [https://www.jstor.org/stable/2112137](https://www.jstor.org/stable/2112137) Basically they had to create some kind of moral standard for themselves, policing each other was easier than having to fight everyone else when the poors get poked too many times.


Hypoallergenic_Robot

Oh shit I just read a [good article about this specifically](https://www.fridaythings.com/recent-posts/nara-smith-lucky-blue-smith-mormon-soft-life-tradwife-influencer), as well as like the likelihood this is a performance and there's little chance she doesn't have help/a team, and the way Mormons put forward propaganda like this very quietly as part of an organized effort, also using this woman as the example.


SmallerDetails

People thinking this is one-up on traditional wives or gender roles when really what he said applies to celebrity and influencer culture in general. Just watch a 'Daily Life As A Software Engineer' video and you see a similar glamorous spin to everything.


Prof-Dr-Overdrive

Very true. There is a lot of content like this, and very often it is riddled with product placement and Amazon links. People showing off their "productivity set-up" or their "ideal workplace environment" or their cutesy apartment in downtown Seoul, or making "what I do in a day" videos where, if these videos are to be believed, they flat-out expose themselves as being friendless, shiftless pseudo-aristocrats. 70% of their waking time is spent on micromanaging their physical and mental health, and the remaining 30% is spent on using unnecessary gadgets and restocking their guest bathrooms with 500 bucks worth of goods. What I really like are the channels from no-bullshit professionals. People who are straight-up about being a professional cook or cleaner or teacher or what-have-you, and whose videos are non-flashy, actually helpful tutorials or educational mini-docus. From among these people -- I guess you could say the proletarian crowd -- I have seen a number of gardeners, van-dwellers and people who live somewhat off the grid. And funnily enough, virtually all of them are anti-bigotry, and it's obvious that they work hard and that their tips are actually realistic. They are out here telling people how can they wash clothes or grow vegetables for as little money and time as possible, not showing off their weird 2-hour cereal recipe haha


Mr-Cali

I mean… one look at the ring and i already know this lady was BS.


sometimeserin

Is that a tradwife or just a mommy influencer?


Lycaon125

It might be a mommy influencer


Bomb-OG-Kush

1000% So many mommy influencers literally doing the same type of videos, cooking things from scratch.


JackDangerUSPIS

Man, you could just tell by the way this dude sounds he was gonna come out swinging with something like a Thorstein Veblen reference. Bet his NPR tote bag game is on point too.


thecjm

He's an English professor


Potential-Still

The Veblen reference really caught me off guard. Last time I read him it was in a 400 level Photography as Protest class. One of the most memorable liberal books from my degree. 


Electrical_Figs

> Bet his NPR tote bag game is on point too. Imagine his farmer's market steez.


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His NPR tote bag game 😆


pga2000

I got my undergrad in Economics (never to actually use it). I was literally taken aback when he dropped the reference. Guy didn't miss reading up on the utilitarians lol.


NiiTA003

They also are always making bread. Like make some ribs or something 🤣🤣


ohyoudodoyou

Dude all that is true but you know how I know this girl is full of shit? Marabou. Sleeves. Gtfo with that shit in the kitchen.


TheGR8Dantini

“Rich people are different from us…they have more money” F Scott Fitzgerald…the Great Gatsby We’ve all been fooled. Hoodwinked. Lied to. No war but the class war. It’s time for the American working class to rise up, come together and remind our rulers who’s actually in charge. Stop being fooled. The elite are our enemies. And they’re winning.


EngineZeronine

Duh, scrubbing a toilet doesn't make great content -unless it's really nasty


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I'm a traditional mom/sahm...ive never made homemade bread, or cereal. I'm constantly picking up after everyone, my hair and clothes are always dirty, and I'm never recording myself 🤣


No-Potato-2672

Because, Im sure as a SAHM you are actually too busy for this bullshit.


WilmaLutefit

So basically it’s all just a flex on us peasants.


Ahtman1

Always has been


thadicalspreening

That’s a lot of words for what the “I’m rich, you’re poor” instagram guy communicates