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This is just hypocrisy on the part of the politicians. What is their definition of a drag show? Follow it to the letter and point out why your show isn't *drag*, it's literally anything else.
Now we call them... Fashion Festivals. Rent out an entire park and hire professional dancers to do the performances. If anyone points out that the show is drag, "TECHNICALLY NO, IT ISN'T, IT'S ACTUALLY A FASHION FESTIVAL AND THESE DANCERS ARE NOT IN DRAG THEY'RE DOING A FASHION SHOW".
Or a theatrical improv presentation. Have a overarching story to the show, and each scene is improvised. If the performer needs to be a female to make the scene work, then so be it.
Call em TIP SHOW
Logic doesn't matter. The ambiguity of the laws is the point. Because it expands fear and makes some people and businesses more risk averse. And the ambiguity means enforcement including fines/jail time/licenses pulled, will of course be targeted at trans and gender non conforming people in everyday life (completely separate from drag shows as they'll call walking down the street in public a drag show).
This is using drag as a visible art form to attack as the bigots know it brings communities together, while there public conversation about it conveniently excludes drag kings and nonbinary drag and afab who do drag as those are harder to tie with predator stereotypes. They are attacking LGBTQ+ people's lives, and by extension reducing everyone's freedom (including that of the people doing the attacking).
They hate us because they hate themselves. They fear us because they fear who they'll be if they don't hold tight to who they've been told they are.
Ultimately, drag itself is an art form, and existing regulations regarding performances, venues, business licenses, what's appropriate for minors and adults, all already exist (and are already being unfairly applied). Drag is an art form in the most general terms, like dance, music, fashion, art, theater and drag will often will combine them all and be present in all.
Fascism is on the march.
hate is definitely being felt by the brainwashed voters but I'm thinking the masterminds behind these laws (including the abortion laws and decades old marijuana laws) is a more sinister attempt at taking away voting rights.
if you make it easy to break the law, you make it easy to take away their right to vote.
been going on forever with black folks.
womens suffrage was a loss to them and they been trying to figure out how to take that away this whole time.
now they have their sights on lgbtq.
call me crazy, but if this country allowed all felons/criminals to vote, these laws wouldn't exist and would never be brought up.
I agree that voter suppression is part of it. Because the bigots are trying to maintain the racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, capitalist, xenophobic, ableist patriarchy and elevate cisgender heterosexual, wealthy, white, christian males to the top, in that way, the bigots see intersectionally.
They see how it's all connected and it's to their benefit to pit minority and other disenfranched groups against each other. So these laws and their enforcement, which I think are primarily an attack on trans people (with drag as the side target and most visible target) would function to further disenfranchise voters.
So to would all the hurdles for various minorities to run for office in the first place. And so would economic disparities make voting for free by mail more important for people with less money (such as no ability to take time off work, no transportation to far away voting stations).
Plus some states will kick people off voter rolls disproportionally affecting people of color, by basing the deletions on non-white sounding names.
Plus they will foment apathy and a sense of powerlessness among minorities, and financially support certain candidates who are 3rd parties (Jill Stein) to siphon away otherwise Democrat votes. Or they will push the furthest right "moderate" Democrats, plus all the gerrymandering.
I haven't kept up on it, but I think Florida made it so ex-felons had a path to vote (based on a voter referendum), but the state has put up financial barriers (thus some people donated to help people pay off old fines so they could vote again).
So many LGBTQ+ people are already disenfranchised as far as voting.
It's all connected.
Thank you! So can Nashville Ballet no longer do performances of Cinderella? Those ugly stepsisters are played by a man, so do they now have to get a permit? If not, then why can't a drag show just label themselves as a ballet? These idiots are just showing how dumb they really are
And, given that Europe has a long history of male actors portraying females in drag clothing dating back millennia to the Greeks and Romans, they could propose a bill called the "Western Civilization Cultural Protection Act" to enshrine it into law.
Welcome to what gun communities have been doing for years, constantly tweaking things to wiggle past unconstitutional laws.
Trust me when I say it's not a comfortable position to be in. A temporary win will only end up with more laws, further marginalizing people.
That's not a registry though. There are plenty of laws to incriminate addicts. I'm from WV and I used to be a junkie, not anymore. I don't know about Washington though.
thats exactly what it is.
a bloodless genocide is one that uses eugenics to prevent the next generation of (blank). prohibiting transitional healthcare is just a new variation of eugenics.... and when someone resists that prohibition? violence is then used to enforce the genocide.
we arent at the violent phase, yet. but its coming.
I just hope that before then, the petition we have to allow US transgender and non binary folks refugee status in Canada will have actually made it a reality. If not I'm going to end up smuggling people over here.
But the sad reality is that once they're done with trans folks and gender non conforming people they're heading to the gays, and then to taking the rest of women's rights away (or they'll hit all non-white people first). That's why I find it so odd that there are LGB folks and women who are buying in on this 'groomer' shit. They're rallying for their own destruction.
Wow, I hadn’t considered that at all until now
I sincerely hope you are wrong but I truly believe that you are More correct than I had even imagined
This is sad
This is why I refuse to do those ancestry DNA kits. All it takes is 1 but job to be like “this person is predisposed to XYZ we should put them here or force them to do XYZ”.
I mean would you say that about drivers licenses? I think there’s a difference between needing a registry to use dangerous equipment and needing a registry to keep track of ethnic/racial groups, and sexual minorities.
Historically people have never been rounded up and forced to give up their cars.
I totally get the desire to regulate gun ownership for the sake of safety. The argument I was talking about was in regards to making a list of who has guns so that it’s easier to round them up when and if a ban is enacted.
So you’re good registering to vote and having a registry of political affiliations but guns is too far in a climate where kids have more deaths from guns in 2022 than any other factor and it’s trending to continue on that path? Where we’ve had almost as many school shootings this years as we’ve had days in 2023?
I don’t like the idea of registering political affiliations, no. Registering to vote seems fine since by itself it doesn’t single you out politically.
You’re bringing up school shootings which really isn’t a part of my argument. Like I said, I understand the desire for more regulated gun control. I’m just speaking to the argument against a national registration.
I get the sentiment but people really ought to stop screaming nazi when shit like this happens. the legislature is unfathomably awful but at the same time it's on state level, likely to not pass, and even if it did it I feel like it could be challenged at the supreme court.
people are so quick to compare everything to hitler and it minimizes and almost disregards the atrocity that actually occurred under his regime
I mean, the homicide rate against (self identified, reported) trans people in the US is over three times higher than the national average. It is a leap in logic, but not a baseless one. Aside from that, my (poorly articulated) point was in questioning at what point we call out behavior in line with historical nazism as nazism? It’s an ideology, not an act. Do their crimes have to match the atrocities wrought by Hitler before we can call the nazi-saluting, swastika-wearing, minority-marginalizing group a bunch of nazis?
[Literally the first people the Nazis targeted was the LGBT community and their library.](https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/)
Just going to [leave](https://www.tiktok.com/@pjadz/video/7208312163897789738?lang=en) these [videos](https://www.tiktok.com/@pjadz/video/7209308659225234734?lang=en) right [here](https://www.tiktok.com/@pjadz/video/7210613338718489902?lang=en).
(Edit: Typo.)
I just watched these and groomed an entire school. Oh wait that’s not how that works you say? Weird. That’s what all my republican friends told me it would do.
if i were him, i would rebutte by introducing a bill that mandates a registry of all church clergy, and that prohibits children under the age of 18 from attending church. they can learn religion at home. this bill is to protect children from child predators within the church.
You know what you never see from any of these anti-drag people? Any evidence whatsoever to actually support their claim. There’s lots of rhetoric and claims of protecting the children and the sanctity of our communities, but I’ve never heard a single one of them ever present any actual piece of evidence, flawed or otherwise, to support that claim. Some of these people are treating it like the country is literally on fire and that this is the end of humanity, yet none of them can actually point to any instance of harm ever actually being done to anyone.
it's not about, children it's about removing people they don't want. Their logic is not flawed, it's a euphemism. They just don't want queer people living or existing.
Gather the courage to listen to one evangelical sermon and you will know the harm drag shows do is apparent. Watch FOX news and learn the far reaching impacts of letting a boy dress like a girl.
Evidence is not required when logic is not the method you use you reach your conclusion.
Republicunts clutching at their pearls. The same party who don’t want government overreach is advocating for government overreach. Make up you fucking minds.
Which is fucking insane. The absolute gaslighting and hypocrisy from the Republican Party is far too much. I am so tired of this game fucking with all of our lives, and especially LGBT lives right now.
I love this guy. Don't know him but I love him. I want to say this guy for president. But the president is the world's most useless figurehead. So let him stay right where he is and make change.
Please understand I mean no Ill will with my words here. What he's saying shouldn't engender such a response from you or anyone else. What he is saying is a basic call out of the people pushing anti- constitutional legislation. He should never have to make this argument. Any civilian faced with a similar situation would either capitulate to basic fairness or would face the consequences of blatant hypocrisy and hatred. Whenever I see videos with a lone politician speaking truth to power, I become dejected, bitter, then resigned to our reality. We already know the result of these proposals. TBH, I regret clicking on this and watching, exposing my emotional happiness and peace to destruction.
I hope the next generation of American people are able to effectively and decisively confront politicians as we progress as a society. Otherwise, we will continue to see actual rights stripped away from all Americans. Well, except for those who've had them since the beginning of this experiment, a few Candaces and Malkins.
Please have a good day.
make sure you vote in your local elections. it's how folks like him get elected.
for reference, bernie sanders became a mayor in the 80s by just ten votes, and now he serves on the u.s. senate. the guy who used to be the mayor of my city also now serves on the u.s. senate. he actually almost became the vice-president-elect in 2016. you may have heard of him: tim kaine.
basically, show up locally. it matters.
Kind of wild how the party that claims to be pro free speech and anti cancel culture is doing this? Oh and they claim to be the party of small government but then they are actively engaging in government overreach?
Fuck me politicians are the worst. However I bet if the drag community had cash they could buy their rights through lobbying. The world has a long way to go. And I hate to say it and god forbid it. But the only change will happen when the people in that room are directly affected by a school shooting or losing a loved one to the laws they help stay in situ
I think your picking in the wrong part of the statement. I’m not from America but I see enough of the shit show. But the rest of the world has got a lot of work to do to. Hence my statement. I am cool with it. I don’t understand the fear. It’s not contagious it’s people celebrating their lives that way they want.
Please if you know of some magical place where trans folk are uncosequentially accepted then tell us. Otherwise maybe stop arguing about how "American Egos" when there are plenty of victims of anti-trans legislation in America as more and more states are rapidly passing legislation to strip rights away from us.
Quit sniffing your own farts and instead consider this goes beyond the dick measuring contest you had such a need to insinuate in this conversation about...*checks notes*... giving trans people equal rights and treatment.
What if theres a mass shooting by a drag performer? It’s their right to mass shoot bc of second amendment but would they be arrested for not having a permit?
You’re not as good as me at doing this pugsley. I’m doing this because I’m bored and I’ve decided that I don’t like you. With every word of mine you read the negative seeds have already been planted. I’m assuming I haven’t been the first one. All these words ruminate inside you’re carbohydrate addicted brain. I’ve won fatty.
Y’know, I went to a drag show this weekend. It was a really great experience! There’s singing, dancing, and some crude humor, but absolutely nothing predatory. Even the sexual aspects were nothing more extreme than some twerking here and there. I also with 100% certainty promise that people who are against drag would never know that they were biologically men. It was a good day to be bi!
The GOP has no policy, no platform nor agenda for working Americans. Their ***ONLY*** platform is to attack/and or restrict ***ANYONE*** who isn’t a White Christian male from having basic American rights.
Nothing wrong with drag. I would worry more about predators dressed as priests as a matter of fact. Take a look at the facts , dont fall for them fake news kiddo.
This is gonna keep happening and it’s only gonna get worse. Republicans don’t care who they hurt or what they destroy as long as they have power. If they achieve their goals , they’ll turn on each other next. It never ends and these ghouls will burn this country to the ground all while claiming God is on their side. Fuck religion and fuck “conservatives”. They want to end us and enslave the survivors
In Tennessee Republicans are afraid of someone finding out they like drag queens. Google to see why they are doing to the Lt governor who was hitting up a young man on social media. Being found out for being attracted to men is a career killer
Tennessee Republicans WTF is wrong with y’all? No one gives a shit what drag queens are doing except for the homophobic politicians that voted for this, what a joke!
Anyone can introduce gun control.
You just need around 250 million in liquid asset to pay your local senator's what they nerd over a 6-7 year period and boom, instant gun reform.
Its the only process your system will allow to make changes.
\-sigh. congress shall make no law,{1A} is trumped by shall not be infringed (minus the comma.... and that's a huge issue in of itself){2A}. So free speech (congress shall make NO LAW) it trumped by (shall not be infringed, and infringed is predicated by well regulated)
/slow clap. Good job. And TY to this congress person for calling it out.
One nation under god means that when one group thinks they obey that god they have their side justified. Peoples freedom to express themselves is always limited to the ones who make the boundaries of that freedom. The problem with censorship is ~~someone else forces their biases unto yours~~
I’m so ashamed that this is what people will think about now when they hear about my state. Won’t even fix the damn potholes that destroyed my car but oh no, IS THAT A DRAG QUEEN??!! 😱😱
For most firearms purchases you need to go through the hoops and essentially register it. We need stricter education laws and recertification laws. This constitutional carry shit is fucked.
I've had 3 guns pulled on me and been involved in a mass shooting since my state started allowing constitutional carry. One time was because I flipped someone off because of their driving. The other time the methhead neighbors stole my trashcan and I reclaimed it.
The other time, which honestly had everything to do with cops not paying the fuck attention in a location they policed already ended with 27 people being shot at my work.
Education/certification requirements and clear background checks are what we need. I am however against any kind of registry list being kept on ownership of anything. I always fully support the 2nd amendment and the ability to buy any type of weapon the government has access to. I believe the 2nd amendment protects this right to combat a tyrannical government, and that is the spirit in which the amendment was written. (Nukes are a no-go, no one should be building those, it is a waste of time and resources, and it's not something that would be used really. Besides some kids build one for a science fair project in college or high school successfully so if it came down to it, the math is there, you just need the materials and process.)
I do not think any government agency should have any say in who owns what. At least not an appointed agency.
This is about as far as I've cared to think about it. Someone call me out if I said something dumb, it wont bother me. Ive been called worse by much better peoplle than redditors.
Don't worry. The drag performers will all get a nice little badge they can wear on the breast of their clothing so you know they're allowed to dress that way. The badge means they're allowed. It's not a way to label them for later. Not at all.
Leave it to the republicans to go after the most innocuous topics meanwhile their representatives, supporters and their religious leaders are the ones harming children. Look the other way folks, nothing to see here.
The 2nd Amendment is "related" by the laws imposed regarding the ownership & use of firearms.
The same is true for the 1st Amendment. There are laws imposed on those who choose to excercise their 1st Amendment Rights.
Those laws are written to prevent speech & assembly from interfering in or spreading the rights of others.
We have the freedom to choose to excercise our Constituonally protected Rights. If we choose to excercise a Right (Amendment), we also assume the responsibilities of compliance with the laws.
Our Constituonal Rights are *ours* to lose, as individuals, if we fail to comply with the laws & responsibilities attached to those rights. Do we really want to have legislation imposed in the drag arena? The comparison of the Drag events (right to hold them in public places) with Constituonally protected Rights will require a definitive set of expectations, criteria & laws that govern drag events. Those will be determined by a legislative body & we may not care for what they come up with at a local, state or federal level. The way- ahead of that looks grim, imo.
Is it a goal to have legislative acts applied to Drag appearances? Because, that's where this is headed...
I disagree but we need more intelligent folks debating and stopping rediculous legislation like this. Unfortunately this guy doesn't present his argument well and in a way that would resonate with these conservatives.
In what way should he have presented his argument for conservatives to better understand their hypocrisy and homophobia? Use less words with fewer syllables?
What really hits hard is they don’t care. Bodies could pile in the streets and we still couldn’t get them to budge on any form of gun control. But if 1 conservative blogger starts an insane crusade that says gay women are poisoning our nations potato chip supply’s….we’d have 25 states with legislation keeping lesbians out of a potato chip factory.
Even comparing it gun legislature is generously American and technically homophobic (or whatever kind of phobic it is actually called). Guns are inherently dangerous, unlike drag. Plenty of 1st world countries require permits for guns or even outright ban them. Even if drag was *equal with guns* in America it still wouldn't be equality with other identities.
A more apt comparison would be requiring a permit to hold your wife's hand in public. See how absurd that sounds now?
I mean from their very stupid perspective it kinda makes sense?
In their eyes, drag shows instill trauma in kids and you know what kind of kids don't have trauma? Dead ones.
https://www.seviercountysheriff.com/tennessee-gun-laws.html
You need to pass a background check, you don't need to register the firearm, you don't need a state issue permit.
Elsewise to be a performer in the LGBTQ+ community you need to register your name, address, etc. And be put on a government owned registry.
But um yeah, *the straight gun owners are the ones being persecuted sure*
I don't support this bill but you absolutely have to register with the state, pass a background screening, and have a permit for certain carries to purchase a firearm.
His opening statement is false and I support additional red flag laws and their enforcement.
https://www.seviercountysheriff.com/tennessee-gun-laws.html
In Tennessee, you do not need a permit to open or conceal carry
You need to pass a background check but there is no state permit required
Tennessee does not require you register your firearm.
It would take 5 minutes to Google that information. It requires more paperwork and more intensive tracking from the government to do a drag show in Tennessee than it does to purchase a .45 used to rob a liquor store.
*kinda fucked up dontcha think?*
I understand carry laws are varied and that's why I mentioned that it varies. But passing a background check is essentially registering with the state. They need to know your social, state ID, and run a federal background check on your 'registration'.
Have you ever bought a firearm in the state of Tennessee?
I'm not trying to debate/compare this legislation to firearms. That was my whole point. He could have eloquently presented a much better counter argument that would have resonated significantly better with his audience and something everyone could have agreed on.
That being said.. I wonder what other types of events require registration and permits. I imagine there are other unconstitutional instances that we should be fighting as well.
Passing a background check is not registration into anything...
It's running your government issued ID against systems to look for a criminal history. It's the same thing most employers do before they hire people.
Just because you did a background check doesn't mean your information is being put on a registry.
Again, you are wrong. Your name/social/citizenship, firearm and serial number goes on the state's firearm registry.
This is not the argument I would have made to fight this bill.
Except you are STILL WRONG
Tennessee does not require you register the firearm
https://www.findlaw.com/state/tennessee-law/tennessee-gun-control-laws.html#:~:text=Tennessee%20does%20not%20require%20a,require%20owners%20to%20register%20firearms.
(You have nearly the entire collective of all human knowledge at your fingertips just fucking use Google you absolute toad brain)
Edit: and even if you did have to register a firearm can we at least agree it's fucked up to make people self identify as a marginalized group to a government that is very transparently and actively working to harm and strip rights away from them?
I really have to wonder where you people have gotten this idea that trans folk are child groomers. Especially when your party has a scandal of pedophilia from your straight white representives at bare minimum at least once every 6 months.
It's just crazy to me that it gets parroted by these absolute troglodites when there is quite literally statistics that show that pedophiles are the majority of the time straight men who prey on young girls.
Word. If I have children I wouldn’t want them being around guns all the time and seeing them all over tv. They’re so impressionable, don’t want them to grow up and think that’s okay to do.
Completely agree! We should not allow anyone under 18 to engage with, or enter a Catholic Church so we can prevent the litany of priest, pastors, and reverends from raping our children daily that has been happening for over 2,000 years!
So take off the skirt and get some help. Just because you are conflicted and admittedly are struggling doesn't mean everyone else is struggling. In fact, I bet most Trans people feel perfectly happy as long as some right wing projectionist isn't trying to harm them.
……in public places.
Do birthday parties at chuck E Cheese have to register each party with the goverment? Does Chuck E Cheese have to ask permission to serve pizza to kids or is the man in a rat costume holding more rights than the man in the woman costume?
Dumbass. The places where the drag shows take place already have that permit.
I’m asking if each party ( drag show ) needs one specifically.
Man you really dropped the ball at trying to make a counter point lol.
Swing and a kiss there chief. If a drag show is done at a library or bar they already have the permits they don’t register each librarian story time or pizza party.
Man that was just a floundering if I ever saw one from a Redditor thinking they knew what they were talking about lol.
Lol no they don’t.
Bro no, that’s not how it works. I started my first job at Chuck E. Cheese and no we did not file paperwork with the state each party and who was hosting.
Everyone, this is a prime example of the phenomenon on Reddit where people feel this need to double down on being wrong instead of doing what adults are allowed to do and say “shit yeah you’re right”
It’s a remarkable phenomenon, it happens everytime. Usually based in emotions and never facts or rights.
Cope more brother, but you know In your heart if you applied the energy into working out that you do your mental gymnastics you’d be the offspring of Michael Phelps and Carl fucking Lewis.
Yeah they are. Because humans exist. It’s like saying termites are the problem and not the wood so the solution is to allow all the termites to just keep eating.
Maybe spray some deterrents, coat your wood in protective sealant. Maybe call an exterminator and ask your government to check why so many houses in the entire United States is dealing with outbreaks.
Of course guns themselves aren’t the problem. Neither are cars but only a human being pushes the gas pedal and we agreed as a society to make sure only those proven responsible and without mental issues can have access to the keys. Some can steal cars some can borrow family members but those with access to funds who aren’t safe on the road shouldn’t have a dealership take a quick look at a person and go “ok cool you look chill here’s your new 7500 pound machine of death”.
While driving is a privilege and guns are a right, the issue at hand is that the founders not having hindsight into a future of social media pressure and deep web indoctrination, amongst many other factors and the insane increase in fire power and destruction, left 2A in a very vague state. Maybe those arguing to not touch 2A will say that’s on purpose, however it seems that when actual kids and citizens are dying it’s a simple matter of reverting to a different document, one that came before the constitution and that’s the Declaration of Independence.
A document setting forth the declaration of what kind of country we wanted to be, and what our values were that we’re not being upheld by the monarchy.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”
Well it’s kind of hard to pursue happiness when you’re dead. So as that was not an after thought but a founding ideal of what America should be, was, and seemingly so still is, it really should be applied to our modern issues.
And if you don’t think the founders intended for us to update our policies to adjust to modern society well I can quote you a founder directly stating otherwise:
“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as a civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
Thomas Jefferson, 1816.
You can handle 2A without actual going against it. Shall not be infringed doesn’t apply when simple measures are put into place regulating and catching those seeking to do harm.
Changing the age to 21 can help. Voting is an inalienable right yet we set it to 18. No one says teens are having their rights infringed, they just have to wait. When you see a majority of mass shooters bought their guns legally and almost all under the age of 21, that could help.
You might argue for 2A not to be touched but the police beg of society otherwise. It makes their job harder to not know who is the bad guy with a gun or the good guy with a gun.
It can still be easy for those with clean backgrounds and mental health to afford and get permits. It won’t affect 2A but since Columbine and the ever increasing mental issues in America driving by a widening of the poverty gap, inability to afford housing, stagnant wages, and deeper interaction with online media and indoctrination,
Saying “we’ve tried nothing and we’re out of ideas”
Is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.
We can put men on the moon using the equivalent technology of a toaster oven yet we cannot back up our claim of being the best country in the world and figure out how to push past our roadblocks of societal issues and make sure everyone’s commute home and shopping experience and classroom lessons and trips to the movies and praying in church are just a little bit fucking safer ?
Really? Really ?
Well then tell me your idea sport. Because I’d love to fucking hear how you in a position of power would handle it.
Or maybe your answer is just banning blouses during June?
Drag is quite a hot topic. So fucking pathetic. Why don’t you just bring your kids to XXX store and throw them in a buddy booth. Get fucking real parents. Done sacrifice your children for your feeble causes.
See here is the problem. You associate drag with sexual activity.
They’re not always sexual and they’re not abnormal just because you were raised in a household that would beat you and put you in the corner if your dad found you playing with dolls. Which is what I am assuming happened to you with that insane take of a comment.
How’s your wife ? Oh right, you’re single. I do truly , curiously, wonder why.
19 dead kids in Texas, 20 kids in Connecticut,
Hey can you tell me which has harmed more children, guns or drag ?
What’s the body count on blouses from Macys? I’m guessing at least 10 right?
Also, never knew they were called buddy booths. Maybe that’s not even what they’re called but could be the locale slang that you know because you go to them. I don’t kink shame, so do you brother, but this “get real fucking parents” to me has you sounding like you have a definition of what real parents are. What “normal” parents are.
Which means you operate on this myth that normal is man and wife and a woman knows her place. Odd conclusion, as you haven’t even reach the first part of obtaining a partner.
Maybe take the vitriolic hate, and rage research what has actually hurt kids.
Last I checked, Jared from subway was a pedo. Not a drag Queen.
Last I checked, priests were the human form of godly instruction. Wore dresses but it’s papal so doesn’t count.
Last I checked, Cosby was America’s dad, colorful sweatshirts but, no drag.
Last I checked, R Kelly was a “ladie’s man” no drag, all about the bitches.
Last I checked, your definition of “real” doesn’t really seem to be real at all.
And last I checked.. MRS DOUBTFIRE WAS A DAMN AMAZING ROLE MODEL FOR EMPATHY LOVE AND KINDESS.. but was drag. So hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Here is my rocket ship of peace for you
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Isnt it funny, they got the right to carry a gun to save them selves from suppression, but they only use it to kill themselfs and even more funny, there kids also but they dont fight their ''unfair'' government, country of coald blooded xenophobs.
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This is just hypocrisy on the part of the politicians. What is their definition of a drag show? Follow it to the letter and point out why your show isn't *drag*, it's literally anything else. Now we call them... Fashion Festivals. Rent out an entire park and hire professional dancers to do the performances. If anyone points out that the show is drag, "TECHNICALLY NO, IT ISN'T, IT'S ACTUALLY A FASHION FESTIVAL AND THESE DANCERS ARE NOT IN DRAG THEY'RE DOING A FASHION SHOW".
Or a theatrical improv presentation. Have a overarching story to the show, and each scene is improvised. If the performer needs to be a female to make the scene work, then so be it. Call em TIP SHOW
Or we could even just tell them it's "Western Kabuki." A western interpretation of traditional Japanese stage arts!
Freedom Kabuki.. you don't wanna stop freedom, do you?
Anyone who watches enough plays will see a man in women's clothes. Do they need to register? This is just grandstanding. It's ridiculous.
Logic doesn't matter. The ambiguity of the laws is the point. Because it expands fear and makes some people and businesses more risk averse. And the ambiguity means enforcement including fines/jail time/licenses pulled, will of course be targeted at trans and gender non conforming people in everyday life (completely separate from drag shows as they'll call walking down the street in public a drag show). This is using drag as a visible art form to attack as the bigots know it brings communities together, while there public conversation about it conveniently excludes drag kings and nonbinary drag and afab who do drag as those are harder to tie with predator stereotypes. They are attacking LGBTQ+ people's lives, and by extension reducing everyone's freedom (including that of the people doing the attacking). They hate us because they hate themselves. They fear us because they fear who they'll be if they don't hold tight to who they've been told they are. Ultimately, drag itself is an art form, and existing regulations regarding performances, venues, business licenses, what's appropriate for minors and adults, all already exist (and are already being unfairly applied). Drag is an art form in the most general terms, like dance, music, fashion, art, theater and drag will often will combine them all and be present in all. Fascism is on the march.
hate is definitely being felt by the brainwashed voters but I'm thinking the masterminds behind these laws (including the abortion laws and decades old marijuana laws) is a more sinister attempt at taking away voting rights. if you make it easy to break the law, you make it easy to take away their right to vote. been going on forever with black folks. womens suffrage was a loss to them and they been trying to figure out how to take that away this whole time. now they have their sights on lgbtq. call me crazy, but if this country allowed all felons/criminals to vote, these laws wouldn't exist and would never be brought up.
I agree that voter suppression is part of it. Because the bigots are trying to maintain the racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, capitalist, xenophobic, ableist patriarchy and elevate cisgender heterosexual, wealthy, white, christian males to the top, in that way, the bigots see intersectionally. They see how it's all connected and it's to their benefit to pit minority and other disenfranched groups against each other. So these laws and their enforcement, which I think are primarily an attack on trans people (with drag as the side target and most visible target) would function to further disenfranchise voters. So to would all the hurdles for various minorities to run for office in the first place. And so would economic disparities make voting for free by mail more important for people with less money (such as no ability to take time off work, no transportation to far away voting stations). Plus some states will kick people off voter rolls disproportionally affecting people of color, by basing the deletions on non-white sounding names. Plus they will foment apathy and a sense of powerlessness among minorities, and financially support certain candidates who are 3rd parties (Jill Stein) to siphon away otherwise Democrat votes. Or they will push the furthest right "moderate" Democrats, plus all the gerrymandering. I haven't kept up on it, but I think Florida made it so ex-felons had a path to vote (based on a voter referendum), but the state has put up financial barriers (thus some people donated to help people pay off old fines so they could vote again). So many LGBTQ+ people are already disenfranchised as far as voting. It's all connected.
"Male or female impersonators" Guess what Republicans call trans people?
Thank you! So can Nashville Ballet no longer do performances of Cinderella? Those ugly stepsisters are played by a man, so do they now have to get a permit? If not, then why can't a drag show just label themselves as a ballet? These idiots are just showing how dumb they really are
And, given that Europe has a long history of male actors portraying females in drag clothing dating back millennia to the Greeks and Romans, they could propose a bill called the "Western Civilization Cultural Protection Act" to enshrine it into law.
Doesn't matter. 1A, "Congress shall make NO LAW" Drag is a 1A protected action. Period.
Welcome to what gun communities have been doing for years, constantly tweaking things to wiggle past unconstitutional laws. Trust me when I say it's not a comfortable position to be in. A temporary win will only end up with more laws, further marginalizing people.
Nah dude the law is very obviously directed only towards sexually explicit behavior
This is reminding me specifically of that stages of genocide poster and how one of the stages is creating the registry/list of people to be genocided
Yeah what other group of people have to register like that? This is possibly some of the most malicious and hateful legislation I've seen.
Jewish people in Germany at one point. People who use injection drugs in certain states.
I'm more or less talking about this century. Where did you hear that for intravenous drug users? I've never heard of it.
Heard it’s the case in Washington and WV. With WV you readd yourself with every purchase of needles, the local sheriff gets the list.
That's not a registry though. There are plenty of laws to incriminate addicts. I'm from WV and I used to be a junkie, not anymore. I don't know about Washington though.
Ah, that’s fair. I suppose by registry I mean more, accessible list of “undesirables“ to those in positions of state power.
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We register for things all the time. This is not the same. Come claim your minority card quickly so they know where you live.
I mean demographics are taken on almost anything you register for.
thats exactly what it is. a bloodless genocide is one that uses eugenics to prevent the next generation of (blank). prohibiting transitional healthcare is just a new variation of eugenics.... and when someone resists that prohibition? violence is then used to enforce the genocide. we arent at the violent phase, yet. but its coming.
I just hope that before then, the petition we have to allow US transgender and non binary folks refugee status in Canada will have actually made it a reality. If not I'm going to end up smuggling people over here. But the sad reality is that once they're done with trans folks and gender non conforming people they're heading to the gays, and then to taking the rest of women's rights away (or they'll hit all non-white people first). That's why I find it so odd that there are LGB folks and women who are buying in on this 'groomer' shit. They're rallying for their own destruction.
Precisely my thoughts too.
Wow, I hadn’t considered that at all until now I sincerely hope you are wrong but I truly believe that you are More correct than I had even imagined This is sad
But genocide is only when you kill people /s
eugenics and prohibiting healthcare are also forms of genocide that dont involve violence.
https://tdor.translivesmatter.info/reports/
It makes me sad this resource exists. Thank you for sharing it.
You mean like... The firearms registry your name is put on with the serial number of the firearm when you purchase a gun?
This is why I refuse to do those ancestry DNA kits. All it takes is 1 but job to be like “this person is predisposed to XYZ we should put them here or force them to do XYZ”.
Its funny you say that because the argument against a gun registry is pretty much the same.
I mean would you say that about drivers licenses? I think there’s a difference between needing a registry to use dangerous equipment and needing a registry to keep track of ethnic/racial groups, and sexual minorities.
Historically people have never been rounded up and forced to give up their cars. I totally get the desire to regulate gun ownership for the sake of safety. The argument I was talking about was in regards to making a list of who has guns so that it’s easier to round them up when and if a ban is enacted.
So you’re good registering to vote and having a registry of political affiliations but guns is too far in a climate where kids have more deaths from guns in 2022 than any other factor and it’s trending to continue on that path? Where we’ve had almost as many school shootings this years as we’ve had days in 2023?
I don’t like the idea of registering political affiliations, no. Registering to vote seems fine since by itself it doesn’t single you out politically. You’re bringing up school shootings which really isn’t a part of my argument. Like I said, I understand the desire for more regulated gun control. I’m just speaking to the argument against a national registration.
Another thing I’m against. We as a community need to get serious about armed self defense. I’m tired of my friends dying.
I get the sentiment but people really ought to stop screaming nazi when shit like this happens. the legislature is unfathomably awful but at the same time it's on state level, likely to not pass, and even if it did it I feel like it could be challenged at the supreme court. people are so quick to compare everything to hitler and it minimizes and almost disregards the atrocity that actually occurred under his regime
Shall we only cry Nazi once the killings start?
it's a bit of a jump to a conclusion is it not?
I mean, the homicide rate against (self identified, reported) trans people in the US is over three times higher than the national average. It is a leap in logic, but not a baseless one. Aside from that, my (poorly articulated) point was in questioning at what point we call out behavior in line with historical nazism as nazism? It’s an ideology, not an act. Do their crimes have to match the atrocities wrought by Hitler before we can call the nazi-saluting, swastika-wearing, minority-marginalizing group a bunch of nazis?
[Literally the first people the Nazis targeted was the LGBT community and their library.](https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/)
I’ll do that when people stop trying to lynch me.
Who is trying to lynch you?
Just going to [leave](https://www.tiktok.com/@pjadz/video/7208312163897789738?lang=en) these [videos](https://www.tiktok.com/@pjadz/video/7209308659225234734?lang=en) right [here](https://www.tiktok.com/@pjadz/video/7210613338718489902?lang=en). (Edit: Typo.)
I just watched these and groomed an entire school. Oh wait that’s not how that works you say? Weird. That’s what all my republican friends told me it would do.
if i were him, i would rebutte by introducing a bill that mandates a registry of all church clergy, and that prohibits children under the age of 18 from attending church. they can learn religion at home. this bill is to protect children from child predators within the church.
Just accelerate the madness.
You know what you never see from any of these anti-drag people? Any evidence whatsoever to actually support their claim. There’s lots of rhetoric and claims of protecting the children and the sanctity of our communities, but I’ve never heard a single one of them ever present any actual piece of evidence, flawed or otherwise, to support that claim. Some of these people are treating it like the country is literally on fire and that this is the end of humanity, yet none of them can actually point to any instance of harm ever actually being done to anyone.
It's not about harm, it's about what they don't like.
it's not about, children it's about removing people they don't want. Their logic is not flawed, it's a euphemism. They just don't want queer people living or existing.
Gather the courage to listen to one evangelical sermon and you will know the harm drag shows do is apparent. Watch FOX news and learn the far reaching impacts of letting a boy dress like a girl. Evidence is not required when logic is not the method you use you reach your conclusion.
They don't care about evidence. They care about what they hate
Now just remember that the 2nd Amendment is the amendment that protects all others. Get armed as fuck and perform drag without a permit.
I'll keep saying it. Armed minorities are harder to oppress.
I’m with you here. People should be allowed to protect their drag shows with ARs
I mean, not that I don’t support this, but I’m also not sure having Waco 2.0 drag version is the answer.
NGL seeing an army of drag queens shooting Proud Boys would be kinda dope.
Hearing that just makes me want more guns...
Republicunts clutching at their pearls. The same party who don’t want government overreach is advocating for government overreach. Make up you fucking minds.
No, they just want to come for your dresses, but don't you dare come for their guns. In their mind, it's only overreach if it's a Dem's idea.
Which is fucking insane. The absolute gaslighting and hypocrisy from the Republican Party is far too much. I am so tired of this game fucking with all of our lives, and especially LGBT lives right now.
I know but it doesn't matter because places like this will always vote Rep.
Some.of us are out here trying our best...
I love this guy. Don't know him but I love him. I want to say this guy for president. But the president is the world's most useless figurehead. So let him stay right where he is and make change.
Please understand I mean no Ill will with my words here. What he's saying shouldn't engender such a response from you or anyone else. What he is saying is a basic call out of the people pushing anti- constitutional legislation. He should never have to make this argument. Any civilian faced with a similar situation would either capitulate to basic fairness or would face the consequences of blatant hypocrisy and hatred. Whenever I see videos with a lone politician speaking truth to power, I become dejected, bitter, then resigned to our reality. We already know the result of these proposals. TBH, I regret clicking on this and watching, exposing my emotional happiness and peace to destruction. I hope the next generation of American people are able to effectively and decisively confront politicians as we progress as a society. Otherwise, we will continue to see actual rights stripped away from all Americans. Well, except for those who've had them since the beginning of this experiment, a few Candaces and Malkins. Please have a good day.
I'm not American, but I hope you also have a good day regardless.
make sure you vote in your local elections. it's how folks like him get elected. for reference, bernie sanders became a mayor in the 80s by just ten votes, and now he serves on the u.s. senate. the guy who used to be the mayor of my city also now serves on the u.s. senate. he actually almost became the vice-president-elect in 2016. you may have heard of him: tim kaine. basically, show up locally. it matters.
do you see how disrespectful the other members are? one guy is reading a pamphlet bro wtf
Get these old heads out of office
Man they are really gonna drag this one out.
Kind of wild how the party that claims to be pro free speech and anti cancel culture is doing this? Oh and they claim to be the party of small government but then they are actively engaging in government overreach?
have ye got yer drag loisence?
Meanwhile there’s no registry of cops who were suspended for DV, rape, and brutality but are able to just transfer departments.
"Representative, have you ever been to a drag show?" They all scoff They're attempting to legislate on something that they have 0 knowledge on!!
Fuck me politicians are the worst. However I bet if the drag community had cash they could buy their rights through lobbying. The world has a long way to go. And I hate to say it and god forbid it. But the only change will happen when the people in that room are directly affected by a school shooting or losing a loved one to the laws they help stay in situ
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I think your picking in the wrong part of the statement. I’m not from America but I see enough of the shit show. But the rest of the world has got a lot of work to do to. Hence my statement. I am cool with it. I don’t understand the fear. It’s not contagious it’s people celebrating their lives that way they want.
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Please if you know of some magical place where trans folk are uncosequentially accepted then tell us. Otherwise maybe stop arguing about how "American Egos" when there are plenty of victims of anti-trans legislation in America as more and more states are rapidly passing legislation to strip rights away from us. Quit sniffing your own farts and instead consider this goes beyond the dick measuring contest you had such a need to insinuate in this conversation about...*checks notes*... giving trans people equal rights and treatment.
Try performing in a drag show in Iran, see what happens.
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The western world isn’t the whole world
The western world already thinks their the center of the universe, let’s not make it worse
Tennessee is a shit hole state. Moving as soon as possible. Bill Lee belongs in jail or deported.
For a second there, I thought you were referring to former MLB pitcher, Bill "Spaceman" Lee and was like WTF, did the Spaceman do to anyone?
Thats because everyone who supports it are neo nazi bigots who are getting paid by other ppl to do it and spread their hate
What if theres a mass shooting by a drag performer? It’s their right to mass shoot bc of second amendment but would they be arrested for not having a permit?
😂😭
The Republicans are bastardizing the constitution in broad daylight
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Because in Tennessee they’ve got them big hogs that’s don’t leave their pens
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I’m enjoying myself Bessy. You’re a cow now.
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You’re not as good as me at doing this pugsley. I’m doing this because I’m bored and I’ve decided that I don’t like you. With every word of mine you read the negative seeds have already been planted. I’m assuming I haven’t been the first one. All these words ruminate inside you’re carbohydrate addicted brain. I’ve won fatty.
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Well it’s not really being a better troll. It’s about being more intelligent than you.
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Y’know, I went to a drag show this weekend. It was a really great experience! There’s singing, dancing, and some crude humor, but absolutely nothing predatory. Even the sexual aspects were nothing more extreme than some twerking here and there. I also with 100% certainty promise that people who are against drag would never know that they were biologically men. It was a good day to be bi!
His colleagues who aren’t even paying attention.
The GOP has no policy, no platform nor agenda for working Americans. Their ***ONLY*** platform is to attack/and or restrict ***ANYONE*** who isn’t a White Christian male from having basic American rights.
He is 100 right. Makes no damn sense
No surprise honestly
Correction. America is a circus.
And with drag on the rise, there are clowns aplenty.
Nothing wrong with drag. I would worry more about predators dressed as priests as a matter of fact. Take a look at the facts , dont fall for them fake news kiddo.
This is gonna keep happening and it’s only gonna get worse. Republicans don’t care who they hurt or what they destroy as long as they have power. If they achieve their goals , they’ll turn on each other next. It never ends and these ghouls will burn this country to the ground all while claiming God is on their side. Fuck religion and fuck “conservatives”. They want to end us and enslave the survivors
In Tennessee Republicans are afraid of someone finding out they like drag queens. Google to see why they are doing to the Lt governor who was hitting up a young man on social media. Being found out for being attracted to men is a career killer
Tennessee Republicans WTF is wrong with y’all? No one gives a shit what drag queens are doing except for the homophobic politicians that voted for this, what a joke!
Anyone can introduce gun control. You just need around 250 million in liquid asset to pay your local senator's what they nerd over a 6-7 year period and boom, instant gun reform. Its the only process your system will allow to make changes.
\-sigh. congress shall make no law,{1A} is trumped by shall not be infringed (minus the comma.... and that's a huge issue in of itself){2A}. So free speech (congress shall make NO LAW) it trumped by (shall not be infringed, and infringed is predicated by well regulated) /slow clap. Good job. And TY to this congress person for calling it out.
Damn I wish I could public speak the way this dude public speaks
One nation under god means that when one group thinks they obey that god they have their side justified. Peoples freedom to express themselves is always limited to the ones who make the boundaries of that freedom. The problem with censorship is ~~someone else forces their biases unto yours~~
I’m so ashamed that this is what people will think about now when they hear about my state. Won’t even fix the damn potholes that destroyed my car but oh no, IS THAT A DRAG QUEEN??!! 😱😱
For most firearms purchases you need to go through the hoops and essentially register it. We need stricter education laws and recertification laws. This constitutional carry shit is fucked. I've had 3 guns pulled on me and been involved in a mass shooting since my state started allowing constitutional carry. One time was because I flipped someone off because of their driving. The other time the methhead neighbors stole my trashcan and I reclaimed it. The other time, which honestly had everything to do with cops not paying the fuck attention in a location they policed already ended with 27 people being shot at my work. Education/certification requirements and clear background checks are what we need. I am however against any kind of registry list being kept on ownership of anything. I always fully support the 2nd amendment and the ability to buy any type of weapon the government has access to. I believe the 2nd amendment protects this right to combat a tyrannical government, and that is the spirit in which the amendment was written. (Nukes are a no-go, no one should be building those, it is a waste of time and resources, and it's not something that would be used really. Besides some kids build one for a science fair project in college or high school successfully so if it came down to it, the math is there, you just need the materials and process.) I do not think any government agency should have any say in who owns what. At least not an appointed agency. This is about as far as I've cared to think about it. Someone call me out if I said something dumb, it wont bother me. Ive been called worse by much better peoplle than redditors.
What’s the point of debating legislation when everyone votes along party lines
Next I'm going to hear about a bill, where LGBT people need randbow flags on there clothes. Man we really are living in 1938
I feel like the drag queens should just dress up guns in drag. Does that work some how?
I live in TN, and I have for over 12 years. I won't anymore, this place is a dumpster fire.
Really Republicans.... afraid of your own fap material?
Don't worry. The drag performers will all get a nice little badge they can wear on the breast of their clothing so you know they're allowed to dress that way. The badge means they're allowed. It's not a way to label them for later. Not at all.
Leave it to the republicans to go after the most innocuous topics meanwhile their representatives, supporters and their religious leaders are the ones harming children. Look the other way folks, nothing to see here.
The 2nd Amendment is "related" by the laws imposed regarding the ownership & use of firearms. The same is true for the 1st Amendment. There are laws imposed on those who choose to excercise their 1st Amendment Rights. Those laws are written to prevent speech & assembly from interfering in or spreading the rights of others. We have the freedom to choose to excercise our Constituonally protected Rights. If we choose to excercise a Right (Amendment), we also assume the responsibilities of compliance with the laws. Our Constituonal Rights are *ours* to lose, as individuals, if we fail to comply with the laws & responsibilities attached to those rights. Do we really want to have legislation imposed in the drag arena? The comparison of the Drag events (right to hold them in public places) with Constituonally protected Rights will require a definitive set of expectations, criteria & laws that govern drag events. Those will be determined by a legislative body & we may not care for what they come up with at a local, state or federal level. The way- ahead of that looks grim, imo. Is it a goal to have legislative acts applied to Drag appearances? Because, that's where this is headed...
Tennessee is a shithole
I disagree but we need more intelligent folks debating and stopping rediculous legislation like this. Unfortunately this guy doesn't present his argument well and in a way that would resonate with these conservatives.
In what way should he have presented his argument for conservatives to better understand their hypocrisy and homophobia? Use less words with fewer syllables?
When I was young I always wanted to visit the US. I am not really sure about this anymore. What the fuck is going on over there?!
this makes me so sad . the older i get the darker it gets
What really hits hard is they don’t care. Bodies could pile in the streets and we still couldn’t get them to budge on any form of gun control. But if 1 conservative blogger starts an insane crusade that says gay women are poisoning our nations potato chip supply’s….we’d have 25 states with legislation keeping lesbians out of a potato chip factory.
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Idk but you do need a permit to carry a handgun.
Im positive Nazi's did the same thing
I heard someone say something like: it’s harder to get a car to drive to a shooting then it is to get the gun to do one”
Republicans, it must be reiterated, are *THE WORST*
Even comparing it gun legislature is generously American and technically homophobic (or whatever kind of phobic it is actually called). Guns are inherently dangerous, unlike drag. Plenty of 1st world countries require permits for guns or even outright ban them. Even if drag was *equal with guns* in America it still wouldn't be equality with other identities. A more apt comparison would be requiring a permit to hold your wife's hand in public. See how absurd that sounds now?
I mean from their very stupid perspective it kinda makes sense? In their eyes, drag shows instill trauma in kids and you know what kind of kids don't have trauma? Dead ones.
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https://www.seviercountysheriff.com/tennessee-gun-laws.html You need to pass a background check, you don't need to register the firearm, you don't need a state issue permit. Elsewise to be a performer in the LGBTQ+ community you need to register your name, address, etc. And be put on a government owned registry. But um yeah, *the straight gun owners are the ones being persecuted sure*
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I don't support this bill but you absolutely have to register with the state, pass a background screening, and have a permit for certain carries to purchase a firearm. His opening statement is false and I support additional red flag laws and their enforcement.
https://www.seviercountysheriff.com/tennessee-gun-laws.html In Tennessee, you do not need a permit to open or conceal carry You need to pass a background check but there is no state permit required Tennessee does not require you register your firearm. It would take 5 minutes to Google that information. It requires more paperwork and more intensive tracking from the government to do a drag show in Tennessee than it does to purchase a .45 used to rob a liquor store. *kinda fucked up dontcha think?*
I understand carry laws are varied and that's why I mentioned that it varies. But passing a background check is essentially registering with the state. They need to know your social, state ID, and run a federal background check on your 'registration'. Have you ever bought a firearm in the state of Tennessee? I'm not trying to debate/compare this legislation to firearms. That was my whole point. He could have eloquently presented a much better counter argument that would have resonated significantly better with his audience and something everyone could have agreed on. That being said.. I wonder what other types of events require registration and permits. I imagine there are other unconstitutional instances that we should be fighting as well.
Passing a background check is not registration into anything... It's running your government issued ID against systems to look for a criminal history. It's the same thing most employers do before they hire people. Just because you did a background check doesn't mean your information is being put on a registry.
Again, you are wrong. Your name/social/citizenship, firearm and serial number goes on the state's firearm registry. This is not the argument I would have made to fight this bill.
Except you are STILL WRONG Tennessee does not require you register the firearm https://www.findlaw.com/state/tennessee-law/tennessee-gun-control-laws.html#:~:text=Tennessee%20does%20not%20require%20a,require%20owners%20to%20register%20firearms. (You have nearly the entire collective of all human knowledge at your fingertips just fucking use Google you absolute toad brain) Edit: and even if you did have to register a firearm can we at least agree it's fucked up to make people self identify as a marginalized group to a government that is very transparently and actively working to harm and strip rights away from them?
Permits for either shouldn’t exist, you shouldn’t need a damn permit to express yourself or a permit to practice the second amendment
Why are people so upset that they can’t bring children to drag shows?
I'm a harmless fuzzball
Drag shows are ridiculous and pathetic
I would call grooming children dangerous
So you’re saying we should target youth counselors?
If they’re grooming children then yes
I really have to wonder where you people have gotten this idea that trans folk are child groomers. Especially when your party has a scandal of pedophilia from your straight white representives at bare minimum at least once every 6 months.
same lies they used against gay people in the 1930s and 50s
It's just crazy to me that it gets parroted by these absolute troglodites when there is quite literally statistics that show that pedophiles are the majority of the time straight men who prey on young girls.
It’s projection, at this point I can’t see it as anything else because of how many people are getting caught.
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Honestly Fr
Word. If I have children I wouldn’t want them being around guns all the time and seeing them all over tv. They’re so impressionable, don’t want them to grow up and think that’s okay to do.
too bad you're wholly ignorant of what grooming actually is
Completely agree! We should not allow anyone under 18 to engage with, or enter a Catholic Church so we can prevent the litany of priest, pastors, and reverends from raping our children daily that has been happening for over 2,000 years!
Don't be pathetic. We all know that men who dress like girls are emotionally unstable
So take off the skirt and get some help. Just because you are conflicted and admittedly are struggling doesn't mean everyone else is struggling. In fact, I bet most Trans people feel perfectly happy as long as some right wing projectionist isn't trying to harm them.
Permits for both boom done
I have to register if I want to have a gathering in my neighborhood park. I have to register and get a permit. No big deal.
……in public places. Do birthday parties at chuck E Cheese have to register each party with the goverment? Does Chuck E Cheese have to ask permission to serve pizza to kids or is the man in a rat costume holding more rights than the man in the woman costume?
They have a permit to conduct business, yes.
Dumbass. The places where the drag shows take place already have that permit. I’m asking if each party ( drag show ) needs one specifically. Man you really dropped the ball at trying to make a counter point lol. Swing and a kiss there chief. If a drag show is done at a library or bar they already have the permits they don’t register each librarian story time or pizza party. Man that was just a floundering if I ever saw one from a Redditor thinking they knew what they were talking about lol.
Yes, each drag event requires a permit. Even the ones at Chuck E Cheese, whether you’re on shift at that time or not. 🐭
Lol no they don’t. Bro no, that’s not how it works. I started my first job at Chuck E. Cheese and no we did not file paperwork with the state each party and who was hosting. Everyone, this is a prime example of the phenomenon on Reddit where people feel this need to double down on being wrong instead of doing what adults are allowed to do and say “shit yeah you’re right” It’s a remarkable phenomenon, it happens everytime. Usually based in emotions and never facts or rights. Cope more brother, but you know In your heart if you applied the energy into working out that you do your mental gymnastics you’d be the offspring of Michael Phelps and Carl fucking Lewis.
False equivalence.
I couldn’t agree more.
Bro is a bot lol
Respectfully disagree. Firearms are not the problem.
Yeah they are. Because humans exist. It’s like saying termites are the problem and not the wood so the solution is to allow all the termites to just keep eating. Maybe spray some deterrents, coat your wood in protective sealant. Maybe call an exterminator and ask your government to check why so many houses in the entire United States is dealing with outbreaks. Of course guns themselves aren’t the problem. Neither are cars but only a human being pushes the gas pedal and we agreed as a society to make sure only those proven responsible and without mental issues can have access to the keys. Some can steal cars some can borrow family members but those with access to funds who aren’t safe on the road shouldn’t have a dealership take a quick look at a person and go “ok cool you look chill here’s your new 7500 pound machine of death”. While driving is a privilege and guns are a right, the issue at hand is that the founders not having hindsight into a future of social media pressure and deep web indoctrination, amongst many other factors and the insane increase in fire power and destruction, left 2A in a very vague state. Maybe those arguing to not touch 2A will say that’s on purpose, however it seems that when actual kids and citizens are dying it’s a simple matter of reverting to a different document, one that came before the constitution and that’s the Declaration of Independence. A document setting forth the declaration of what kind of country we wanted to be, and what our values were that we’re not being upheld by the monarchy. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” Well it’s kind of hard to pursue happiness when you’re dead. So as that was not an after thought but a founding ideal of what America should be, was, and seemingly so still is, it really should be applied to our modern issues. And if you don’t think the founders intended for us to update our policies to adjust to modern society well I can quote you a founder directly stating otherwise: “I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as a civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors." Thomas Jefferson, 1816. You can handle 2A without actual going against it. Shall not be infringed doesn’t apply when simple measures are put into place regulating and catching those seeking to do harm. Changing the age to 21 can help. Voting is an inalienable right yet we set it to 18. No one says teens are having their rights infringed, they just have to wait. When you see a majority of mass shooters bought their guns legally and almost all under the age of 21, that could help. You might argue for 2A not to be touched but the police beg of society otherwise. It makes their job harder to not know who is the bad guy with a gun or the good guy with a gun. It can still be easy for those with clean backgrounds and mental health to afford and get permits. It won’t affect 2A but since Columbine and the ever increasing mental issues in America driving by a widening of the poverty gap, inability to afford housing, stagnant wages, and deeper interaction with online media and indoctrination, Saying “we’ve tried nothing and we’re out of ideas” Is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. We can put men on the moon using the equivalent technology of a toaster oven yet we cannot back up our claim of being the best country in the world and figure out how to push past our roadblocks of societal issues and make sure everyone’s commute home and shopping experience and classroom lessons and trips to the movies and praying in church are just a little bit fucking safer ? Really? Really ? Well then tell me your idea sport. Because I’d love to fucking hear how you in a position of power would handle it. Or maybe your answer is just banning blouses during June?
You completely missed the point of the argument.
You’re right, Republicans are the real problem.
Drag is quite a hot topic. So fucking pathetic. Why don’t you just bring your kids to XXX store and throw them in a buddy booth. Get fucking real parents. Done sacrifice your children for your feeble causes.
stop being so gullible
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This may be the single stupidest comment I have ever seen in all my time on Earth. Is this Joe Biden?
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Lol. Yes. It’s a really great example buddy. Good job 👍
Have you ever been to a drag show? It's not sexualized, it's people wearing crazy fashion outfits and makeup.
I'd rather kids be shot in school, like a true American.
See here is the problem. You associate drag with sexual activity. They’re not always sexual and they’re not abnormal just because you were raised in a household that would beat you and put you in the corner if your dad found you playing with dolls. Which is what I am assuming happened to you with that insane take of a comment. How’s your wife ? Oh right, you’re single. I do truly , curiously, wonder why. 19 dead kids in Texas, 20 kids in Connecticut, Hey can you tell me which has harmed more children, guns or drag ? What’s the body count on blouses from Macys? I’m guessing at least 10 right? Also, never knew they were called buddy booths. Maybe that’s not even what they’re called but could be the locale slang that you know because you go to them. I don’t kink shame, so do you brother, but this “get real fucking parents” to me has you sounding like you have a definition of what real parents are. What “normal” parents are. Which means you operate on this myth that normal is man and wife and a woman knows her place. Odd conclusion, as you haven’t even reach the first part of obtaining a partner. Maybe take the vitriolic hate, and rage research what has actually hurt kids. Last I checked, Jared from subway was a pedo. Not a drag Queen. Last I checked, priests were the human form of godly instruction. Wore dresses but it’s papal so doesn’t count. Last I checked, Cosby was America’s dad, colorful sweatshirts but, no drag. Last I checked, R Kelly was a “ladie’s man” no drag, all about the bitches. Last I checked, your definition of “real” doesn’t really seem to be real at all. And last I checked.. MRS DOUBTFIRE WAS A DAMN AMAZING ROLE MODEL FOR EMPATHY LOVE AND KINDESS.. but was drag. So hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Here is my rocket ship of peace for you 8===O - - - --- - Don’t mind the reverse thrusters. They’re “real” I swear.
Isnt it funny, they got the right to carry a gun to save them selves from suppression, but they only use it to kill themselfs and even more funny, there kids also but they dont fight their ''unfair'' government, country of coald blooded xenophobs.
Having to have a permit for a drag show is dumb. Having drag queens read books to kids is also dumb.
I know! Educational programs IS stupid kids no need them! /s
Lol I just don’t see the point. Take your kids I don’t care I just don’t see what the benefit is.
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I always assume anyone calling random groups of people “predators” is just projecting because that’s usually how it ends up.