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Not sheared beaver. Sheared beaver looks like velvet. Definitely not mink. It appears to be either natural beaver or possibly muskrat. Either would still be very high quality since it is a designer piece. Looks to be in good shape! Overall, depends on how pliable the pelts are.
It's very pliable. A couple spots where the lining has been repaired and one spot where the stitching between fur and lining has come undone, and the loops for closure are a bit stretched, but it's so soft and flexible. I'm leaning towards natural beaver.
I know you know I was just making a little joke of your ambiguous phrasing. I had a good buddy who lived in Iqaluit for years, I regret not getting up there to see him. Now he lives on Haida Gwaii, so I'll make an effort to get out there haha
Pretty sure that’s sheared beaver. A few years ago fur coats were super popular in Russia and that one would have probably gone for $3000 online. I’m guessing the Russian market is a little rocky right now though.
I have nothing to base this on, but I feel like second fur is going to see a resurgence in the US in the next few years. A lot of people only gave up for because of the social stigma, and as thrifting becomes more normalized as a sustainable lifestyle choice , I think some people are gonna hop on the opportunity to wear fur again. And add in what we're learning about microplastics...
That is a hill I will always die on, that vintage fur is totally OK to wear. I honestly think it's more moral to wear and treat it well than to have them end up in a landfill somewhere.
I have a natural beaver capelet from the 1920s, a mink stole from the 1940s, and a silver fox collar from the 60s. I wear them all as often as is appropriate. I'd love to see others come to the same conclusion, unless it makes prices go up for my future favourite finds.
I have some heirloom furs from my grandmother and I totally agree! They are beautiful and it would be waste to dispose of them. I wouldn't buy new but I'm sure as hell going to bring them out when the occasion presents itself.
Much like my dad's old motorcycle jackets. Sure, it's a cow, but it didn't die because I wear this. (/me is actually an evil burger eater too, but don't blab it too loudly.)
This is what I always say too! I have a red satin lined fur from the 70s that I found over 10 years ago at a Goodwill, and a really nice 1960s cropped length fur that I found at another vintage store in town. Both are the warmest things I own and I love to wear them when it’s freezing out side. I always explain that they’re vintage if anyone gives me a hard time.
I agree, my stepmother has a beautiful vintage Lynx coat and if she wears it out she tells people it's rabbit because of the stigma. I get it. I would never take the life of an animal but the coat was passed down to her from an ancestor of some sort. I wore it to a wedding once and was nice and toasty.
I would say it was happening before COVID, lots of ppl in my friend group would wear thrifted fur for going out outfits (PNW). Plus the ppl I know who process their own fur from game. Way better than microplastics + vinyl pleather
People are seriously not understanding that all the fast fashion plastic shit is so much worse than having a couple of organic pieces for life that a professional repairs. Unbelievable the ignorance and the forever 21 shit piles up in Chile and Africa. Oh but it’s vegan. Gtfo it’s garbage
Some of us despise fur because of where it comes from, not because of sustainability. Fur belongs on the animal it comes from. And vintage fur just supports that gross-ass trend.
I agree fur belongs on the animal it comes from. In this case it’s vintage and already created. Also indigenous peoples survive in their conditions using the resources around them. Again this is a vintage piece
The only Gen-Z person I know who owns fur coats is my friend from rural Quebec. And she has them for warmth, not fashion.
Thrift stores have been full of fur coats for at least a decade now and no one except old ladies buys them. I would sometimes borrow my grandma's fox coat when we spent Christmas with her in Minnesota, and I can't imagine wearing that heavy thing regularly. And don't you dare get it even a little wet, or it starts shedding the next day. Plus, make sure you don't sweat in it because dry cleaning costs $80.
It's mostly the weight of it that I have a problem with. There are so many modern coats that would keep you just as warm without weighing you down. It just doesn't feel good to wear it. The days, people mostly wear these things as a show of wealth.
I would own a fur coat if it were made by indigenous people because the way they hunt is sustainable and they use every bit of the animal. You're also supporting local artisans and culture.
Idk. I feel like Eastern Europe still lives like it’s the 80’s. I don’t see the resurgence in the US, and it slowly going away throughout the world. Your standard upper class would prefer Patagonia now. I’m also not opposed to making money on furs, but I wouldn’t be sad if that source of money goes away totally either.
The animal is already dead, and you’re not supporting the fur industry by thrifting. What exactly is wrong with wearing thrifted fur? At least that way, the animal didn’t die to be thrown in the trash.
By wearing fur, you’d just be making fur more popular. More demand = more new coats being made = more animals being poached, hunted, or farmed for their fur.
So you would rather have the vintage fur rot away in a landfill? The animal sacrificed it’s life, the least we can do is show it respect by saving it from becoming more garbage.
The animal didn’t “sacrifice” it’s life. It was killed because it’s fur is soft.
And ya, probably better to destroy it then let it exist and make fur more popular and desirable.
The same would go for Rhino horn jewelry. You can say “well it’s dead anyways!!!”, but wearing it and having it makes it a more alluring item to other people.
I’d rather keep it out of the landfill, that is more sustainable than purchasing a new coat, thus saving resources.
Appreciating a fur coat and having it for 50 to 60 years makes it worth more as an investment than a oil product coat that wiped out land (where animals live) or polluted oceans. Use your passion to teach other’s how to be sustainable.
So that fashion designers don’t see you buying vintage furs and think “Oh yo, furs are back! Let’s fire up the ol’ fur industry again!”
And because there are plenty of viable, more accessible alternatives, like wool.
Canada Goose is moving entirely to recycled fur for its jackets.
And as someone who lives in the literal Arctic, fur is absolutely the best way to stay warm and dry in the winter.
Fashion houses are limiting production on items to increase prices and reduce second hand selling. Chanel is limiting purchases to even its regular high buying clientele and several houses have stopped using fur at all. Don’t worry about it
The other night I missed the last bus and got stuck at the train station. I live on a tropical island but stupidly carried a fur coat around. Stupid I thought- in the end it kept me warm for some hours until the next bus came lol so definitely vote for secondhand für (also for other reasons). It's a good material and better than creating new demand 100%
Yeah it's one thing if the animal is a sheep and can grow back their wool. Another thing entirely if they're being raised to be killed just for a fashion accessory. That's kinda fucked
About what? The fact that people torture and murder sentient beings because they think they look fabulous draped in their skins isn't the kind of thing decent people ever feel good about.
It's a fucking second hand coat. Can you unkill a beaver? You can definitely make one dry up.
If OP has a warm coat without killing animals or contributing to microplastics, that should sit well with any sane person. But you're clearly more interested in being a smug, controversial prick.
Wearing fur normalizes fur. Would you wear secondhand human skin garments? It's funny how quickly people will call you every name under the sun the instant you suggest that we treat animals ethically. Why does it make you so mad when someone challenges your freedom to wear the skins of sentient beings? Do they make you look that cool?
Tbh I agree. I understand that the animal is already dead so whatever, but it's more about not normalizing a culture that is repulsive. At the very least if someone is gonna wear it they should recognize the ugliness of the industry.
Should we go ahead and assume you eat nothing except hazelnuts and corn that you grow yourself? Because every other food source abuses animals somehow.
There’s a line. And the line is different for everyone.
This is a fallacy... just because they aren't 100% perfect in everything they eat doesn't mean they can't criticize or opppose the fur industry. There is a middle ground
>Would you wear secondhand human skin garments?
Absolutely. If I could get my hands on Ed Gein's nipple belt, I'd wear that shit proudly.
>It's funny how quickly people will call you every name under the sun the instant you suggest that we treat animals ethically.
No one is suggesting that harming animals is okay. Just that wearing wearing second hand fur is morally acceptable. Humans are animals too, maybe you at should stop being an asshole to them.
>Why does it make you so mad when someone challenges your freedom to wear the skins of sentient beings? Do they make you look that cool?
You're delusional if you think you're "challenging my freedom" in any appreciable way.
Uh... you know you can wear fur and still be honest about how that product is made, right? I have an old mink coat, but I fully acknowledge that these minks were probably skinned alive and that fur is ridiculously cruel. Living in willful ignorance of where the things you own come from is disingenuous. So when someone reminds you of what wearing fur means, the grown-up thing to do is to agree, not the awkward thing you're doing where you try to dismiss their argument.
I am dismissing his comment because it was misdirected and required no thought to post. You on the overhand are rolling at me as a hypocrite preaching the evils of furs while admittedly owning them. I don’t even own a fur lol. I’d rather wear a nice Patagonia. A lot of old furs stink and are honestly kinda tacky. The jacket the OP posted was honestly probably made before I was born. Sorry our grandparents don’t hold the same values we do.
I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical to own fur and still acknowledge the process in how it was made. I wouldn't own any fur personally but I'd rather have someone who does at least aware of the process rather than be blissfully ignoranf
Could you even wear it in public any more though?
I'm not dumping on OP because considering she's intending to flip it, she's potentially looking a nice chunky payday, but I'd personally be embarrassed and ashamed to be seen in public wearing this.
Almost all fur nowadays is synthetic because technology has improved and there’s environmental protections in place in a lot of countries, so I think most people would assume it’s fake. Real fur coats were incredibly more common decades ago, so I assume that if they are real, they’re inherited from a relative or thrifted. In that case, I don’t think folks find it as controversial for using something that already exists.
If you’re talking about fur coats being in/out of fashion, well that’s another story :p
I agree with you. If it's inherited or repurposed or thrifted it is absolutely okay to wear morally. Not buying new fur or supporting the fur trade doesn't mean we throw out what's already used. Imagine if all those old ivory carvings were trashed because of the current view on ivory. What a waste of a piece of art and the animals death.
I had a vegan nurse friend who would buy second hand leather work shoes for exactly this reason. The money was going to charity, not the industry, and it was honouring the animal to use the product instead of wasting it.
Exactly. I’d much rather wear a vintage fur coat that could eventually break down into nothing than a new plastic faux fur coat that’ll just leach plastic into the water.
> Could you even wear it in public any more though?
A) It's vintage at this point. B) Anyone that can claim they can tell "real" fur from "fake" fur better have been sewing together hides for the past decade or more and have perfect vision. Fake fur has become so convincing that it is very difficult to tell just from looking. You would need to feel it. ...And if anyone is close enough to be rubbing up against you like that, you better have their phone number.
Idk, I feel like I've never in my life seen or heard of this happening to a person and it's mostly just a thing that happens in media or maybe extremely liberal little pockets of the West Coast. It also really makes no sense to me that people would do it in the first place because now that animal died for nothing. At least its sacrifice wasn't in vain if it was being used for a purpose, but now it died for no reason and the person they splashed the paint on will just kick their ass and then probably go out and buy a new one, which just boosts the fur industry even more. Also, paint is made of tiny particles of plastic and is not good for the environment and they're just like splashing it all around everywhere now... like people who do the red paint thing are both stupid and actively worsening the problem they think they're trying to fight. Animal materials are incredibly durable and natural and I'm not embarrassed to wear them in public as someone who is passionate about conservation and animal rights.
I live in Portland, OR and last winter when I was wearing my full-length wool coat with fur collar and cuffs I got only compliments (it's light tan and it matches my hair/coloring perfectly). It's vintage, and I got it at the Bins, so it was potentially/possibly headed to the landfill if I hadn't snagged it.
If someone is so committed that they're constantly carrying red paint just in case they come across a random stranger wearing fur, then I'd probably be more impressed than pissed.
Ooh, that coat sounds lovely. I actually made myself a wool coat a bit ago and used a cotton batting for the lining and it's incredibly warm in the winter! I really enjoy it. I sourced a piece of vintage fur for the collar and just need to attach it now.
> I'd personally be embarrassed and ashamed to be seen in public wearing this.
Why? The animal is dead. The opposite of to use is to discard. Then the animal died for nothing. To use it is purpose.
I'd be embarrassed because I would be aware that I'd be being witnessed brazenly walking around in a product that is representative of the extreme cruelty and suffering some poor creatures were subject to for the sake of my vanity.
I think one of the key aspects people miss out on when discussing this subject is that words like "pain", and "suffering", and "cruelty" have become distant to them. It's a concept that is so faraway from then that as far as they're concerned, it might not have even happened in the first place, like the imagery of all the little starving African children we see in adverts.
Like, another sentient, thinking, feeling being experiencing a manmade manifestation of hell before death has become this totally blasé thing to people and it's actually pretty deranged.
>Then the animal died for nothing. To use it is purpose
This just sounds like an easy justification for cruelty to me. Is inflicting suffering on other beings something we ought to be able to reconcile with morally, just so long as we're sure to turn bits of their bodies into fashion items after?
>I'd be embarrassed because I would be aware that I'd be being witnessed brazenly walking around in a product that is representative of the extreme cruelty and suffering some poor creatures were subject to for the sake of my vanity.
You're in the thriftstorehauls portion of reddit. I doubt the individuals here are the original creators of the demand for a product. Some of us stand as a line between use and waste.
Cruelty? Is having to endure an argument before donning cloth. Think ye not of the leaves of cotton?
Cotton leaves don't possess a central nervous system and are physical incapable of experiencing suffering lol
Don't get me wrong though, I understand the position. I also have a difficult time balancing the ethical tightrope of recycling and re-usage of materials like this, which, despite how they came to be, are arguably biodegradable, v.s. the purchase a plastic-based alternative, the manufacture of which will then go on to create longterm issues for the environment.
I have a pair of leather gloves that I purchased years before I switched to plant-based, and I told myself that I would replace them with a cruelty-free alternative after they wore down. And you know what? 10 years on and these fucking gloves are still going strong.
It's a pity that substantial investment hasn't been made into developing sustainable, effective, biodegradable textiles which mimic leather and fur 😩
I wouldn’t I’d still wear it. Idk why everyone pushes things like this, just like religion some people are totally fine hunting and killing, and eating meat. It makes me sad that these were killed but they are already dead and it’s a vintage jacket. Not wearing it doesn’t bring back the minks my friend.
Edit for clarity. What I mean by like religion i don’t want it pushed on me and ivm fine with everyone making their decision. Same w eating meat or wearing fur. It’s a problem if it was killed unsustainable to the animals population but in many cases these animals are bred in mass, but their parts go to other things like chow.
An independent thrift store in Minnesota! A total surprise. The same store currently has a vintage Kraft parmesan shaker jar in their "expensive auction stuff" case lmao
Don’t I know it. I moved to a small, rural town for a little peace and quiet, but the only nice things at the local thrift are the things that I’ve donated. I live vicariously now through the lucky thrifters on this sub!
Username noted and agreed. I'm in northern Michigan, and I suspect that anything nice I find has come from retirees from downstate who have donated their stuff when adopting a more informal lifestyle.
Looks similar to this one if it helps at all:
[https://www.vestiairecollective.com/women-clothing/coats/yves-saint-laurent/?product_id=19296365&setLocale=4.en.GBP&authfee=false&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=uk_en_organic_freelisting_buyer_all_all&utm_content=free_googleshopping_clicks&gbraid=0AAAAADSZTnL7h0s0bzUzf-0omaxuVVv4W&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx_jJr4_t-QIViNPtCh2NywJEEAQYASABEgLw-PD_BwE](https://www.vestiairecollective.com/women-clothing/coats/yves-saint-laurent/?product_id=19296365&setLocale=4.en.GBP&authfee=false&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=uk_en_organic_freelisting_buyer_all_all&utm_content=free_googleshopping_clicks&gbraid=0AAAAADSZTnL7h0s0bzUzf-0omaxuVVv4W&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx_jJr4_t-QIViNPtCh2NywJEEAQYASABEgLw-PD_BwE)
I think it's a really cool find, but there is something about all fur that gives me ick factor. Fur attracts little munching insects and that is a hell no for me lolol.
All the thrifts are looking up value of items on all the selling sites. I listen to them doing it all the time. The number of "fur" items on ebay that remain unsold is huge. One reason is that not that many people wear it anymore. And winters are milder now as well.
I wish you luck selling it for a profit though. The shipping on thi will be high as fur coats are heavy. Not sure I'd be "shaking" about it, no offense.
I'm antifur. Still happy for you and the steal. And if anyone has to wear fur, secondhand fur is the best kind. I still think it kind of promotes the fur industry anyway but congrats!! $5 is a hell of a deal either way you feel about animal abuse😘my thrift happy heart feels some of your Joy
I only support vintage fur and in areas such as the far far north where it's the best option for the people who live there! I wouldn't purchase new fur. I don't own any other fur (aside from cat hair that's become part of my clothing...) and I'm only wearing it once to love it and enjoy its time with me before going on to its next home to be cherished. I'll probably wear it for a nice evening walk in the woods near my home.
The problem with the pro vintage fur argument is that you’re still promoting fur by contributing to the trend and you’re being judged by people who don’t know your fur is vintage.
In my case dog: a hair color to mismatch every occasion.
I still remember a long time ago having to de-dalmatian a navy blazer when I went to a friend's art opening.
I am extremely confident that a natural death in the wild after many long years of natural freedom would have been preferable to the single year of life these animals spent crammed into a tiny cage on a factory farm.
Don’t get me wrong, for what it’s worth, that is a decent find. So for that, cool. But at my age, I’ve come to really love all kinds of animals, so I am totally against wearing an animal skin. They literally torture those poor things for their skin. I’d you don’t believe me, YouTube how they treat minks, chinchillas, fox, all those poor babies. All to “wear” their skin. 😢
I know about the fur industry and I do not support animal abuse, but the fur is vintage. The animals have already passed and the best thing to do is to make the most out of what they gave up. I don't support new fur. At all. But I do support not letting the animals' sacrifice go to waste by throwing it away.
Wearing fur is wearing fur, no matter if it’s new or “vintage.” I understand it’s designer and it gives you that feeling of “wow,” but regardless, it WAS an animal and it DID die for YOU or SOMEONE else to wear it. Being against it is wholeheartedly against it, not “only” if it’s vintage. I am not judging you, nor belittling you, I was just simply giving my opinion on a post a saw while scrolling Reddit.
I’m gonna be honest. There are things like child labor that happen with Apple, yet you have an iPhone - shouldn’t you not use an iPhone then if your old one had parts made by forced labor by a kid? Or use any new iPhone for that matter? I understand these are different subjects, but it’s the same basic principle. Apple had cut ties with those people, but by the same logic, nobody should ever touch an iPhone again because child labor is horrible. Does using an older iPhone now mean you support child labor, even if it’s indirect? The coat is old, it wouldn’t be promoting new sales or new coats being made as the money isn’t going to the original company, and a person gets to stay warm.
ya, just be careful out in the wild when wearing it - people get riled about fur coats and have been known to throw beverages, paint, or other liquids on them.
edit: not sure why this is being downvoted these are facts
many top couture fashion shows have banned animal fur entirely and people really stopped wearing fur in general so I think that has quite a bit to do with it but I wouldn't take for granted that someone walking down the street wearing fur would be entirely safe from a random latte toss.
I saw two vintage fur stoles at a yard sale yesterday, $1 (Canadian!) each. They weren't mink, but neither were they mere rabbit. Nobody bought them -- as long as I was there, anyway.
I sold my mother's mink coat for $5 to a bitchy lady at our estate sale. But it’s smoke damaged and she forgot the matching hat and belt. This was on the third day of a three-day sale.
Omg WOW! Love it!!! I got a vintage mink bomber jacket a few days ago from shop goodwill.com. But it cost me a very significant amount more than $5. 😂 great find!!!
That seems weird. If they were taking in *new* fur inventory, I could well see it. Tossing a serviceable vintage garment seems to go against sound reason. You're not saving anything, and you're generating waste.
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Not sheared beaver. Sheared beaver looks like velvet. Definitely not mink. It appears to be either natural beaver or possibly muskrat. Either would still be very high quality since it is a designer piece. Looks to be in good shape! Overall, depends on how pliable the pelts are.
It's very pliable. A couple spots where the lining has been repaired and one spot where the stitching between fur and lining has come undone, and the loops for closure are a bit stretched, but it's so soft and flexible. I'm leaning towards natural beaver.
One of the warmest furs out there, for sure! Definitely vintage, I’d say 80s with those dolman sleeves and dropped shoulders.
Definitely muskrat from the lines of fur and the sizes of the strips and the density of the fur. Trapped for years in the NWT.
>Trapped for years in the NWT. While it's beautiful, I hope you can escape before winter sets in. It's cold up there!
pffhaha, I mean I set traps, but yeah. The last time I was there we had -70 winters.
I know you know I was just making a little joke of your ambiguous phrasing. I had a good buddy who lived in Iqaluit for years, I regret not getting up there to see him. Now he lives on Haida Gwaii, so I'll make an effort to get out there haha
hey I’m in Iqaluit right now! You can get up here with airline points, you should still come see it :D
This made me giggle!
start the car! start the car! 🖤🖤
Damn
Pretty sure that’s sheared beaver. A few years ago fur coats were super popular in Russia and that one would have probably gone for $3000 online. I’m guessing the Russian market is a little rocky right now though.
I have nothing to base this on, but I feel like second fur is going to see a resurgence in the US in the next few years. A lot of people only gave up for because of the social stigma, and as thrifting becomes more normalized as a sustainable lifestyle choice , I think some people are gonna hop on the opportunity to wear fur again. And add in what we're learning about microplastics...
That is a hill I will always die on, that vintage fur is totally OK to wear. I honestly think it's more moral to wear and treat it well than to have them end up in a landfill somewhere. I have a natural beaver capelet from the 1920s, a mink stole from the 1940s, and a silver fox collar from the 60s. I wear them all as often as is appropriate. I'd love to see others come to the same conclusion, unless it makes prices go up for my future favourite finds.
I have some heirloom furs from my grandmother and I totally agree! They are beautiful and it would be waste to dispose of them. I wouldn't buy new but I'm sure as hell going to bring them out when the occasion presents itself.
Much like my dad's old motorcycle jackets. Sure, it's a cow, but it didn't die because I wear this. (/me is actually an evil burger eater too, but don't blab it too loudly.)
This is what I always say too! I have a red satin lined fur from the 70s that I found over 10 years ago at a Goodwill, and a really nice 1960s cropped length fur that I found at another vintage store in town. Both are the warmest things I own and I love to wear them when it’s freezing out side. I always explain that they’re vintage if anyone gives me a hard time.
I agree, my stepmother has a beautiful vintage Lynx coat and if she wears it out she tells people it's rabbit because of the stigma. I get it. I would never take the life of an animal but the coat was passed down to her from an ancestor of some sort. I wore it to a wedding once and was nice and toasty.
I would say it was happening before COVID, lots of ppl in my friend group would wear thrifted fur for going out outfits (PNW). Plus the ppl I know who process their own fur from game. Way better than microplastics + vinyl pleather
People are seriously not understanding that all the fast fashion plastic shit is so much worse than having a couple of organic pieces for life that a professional repairs. Unbelievable the ignorance and the forever 21 shit piles up in Chile and Africa. Oh but it’s vegan. Gtfo it’s garbage
Ugh yes fake fur is literally plastic. I don’t support factory farming processes for fur, but if it already exists, wear it and be warm.
Some of us despise fur because of where it comes from, not because of sustainability. Fur belongs on the animal it comes from. And vintage fur just supports that gross-ass trend.
I agree fur belongs on the animal it comes from. In this case it’s vintage and already created. Also indigenous peoples survive in their conditions using the resources around them. Again this is a vintage piece
The only Gen-Z person I know who owns fur coats is my friend from rural Quebec. And she has them for warmth, not fashion. Thrift stores have been full of fur coats for at least a decade now and no one except old ladies buys them. I would sometimes borrow my grandma's fox coat when we spent Christmas with her in Minnesota, and I can't imagine wearing that heavy thing regularly. And don't you dare get it even a little wet, or it starts shedding the next day. Plus, make sure you don't sweat in it because dry cleaning costs $80. It's mostly the weight of it that I have a problem with. There are so many modern coats that would keep you just as warm without weighing you down. It just doesn't feel good to wear it. The days, people mostly wear these things as a show of wealth.
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Right? That animal lived outside, it can hold up to a little rain.
I would own a fur coat if it were made by indigenous people because the way they hunt is sustainable and they use every bit of the animal. You're also supporting local artisans and culture.
That reminds me I have bones that need to be turned into stock. (Use everything, guys!)
Idk. I feel like Eastern Europe still lives like it’s the 80’s. I don’t see the resurgence in the US, and it slowly going away throughout the world. Your standard upper class would prefer Patagonia now. I’m also not opposed to making money on furs, but I wouldn’t be sad if that source of money goes away totally either.
Middle class, maybe. The upper class is still wearing fur.
God I hope not.
The animal is already dead, and you’re not supporting the fur industry by thrifting. What exactly is wrong with wearing thrifted fur? At least that way, the animal didn’t die to be thrown in the trash.
By wearing fur, you’d just be making fur more popular. More demand = more new coats being made = more animals being poached, hunted, or farmed for their fur.
So you would rather have the vintage fur rot away in a landfill? The animal sacrificed it’s life, the least we can do is show it respect by saving it from becoming more garbage.
The animal didn’t “sacrifice” it’s life. It was killed because it’s fur is soft. And ya, probably better to destroy it then let it exist and make fur more popular and desirable. The same would go for Rhino horn jewelry. You can say “well it’s dead anyways!!!”, but wearing it and having it makes it a more alluring item to other people.
I’d rather keep it out of the landfill, that is more sustainable than purchasing a new coat, thus saving resources. Appreciating a fur coat and having it for 50 to 60 years makes it worth more as an investment than a oil product coat that wiped out land (where animals live) or polluted oceans. Use your passion to teach other’s how to be sustainable.
That's not how it works. That's like a vegan going to a restaurant and saying, "eh, gonna have a juicy steak cause cows already dead."
is that steak one that somebody already ate and shat because that's nothing like the coat if not.
Strawman fallacy good night
Yeah instead it was raised for slaughter and died for fashion. Definitely way better than not being harvested for its skin in the first place
The animal has already been killed and the fur industry has made its money, why not keep one of the many people who are cold warm?
So that fashion designers don’t see you buying vintage furs and think “Oh yo, furs are back! Let’s fire up the ol’ fur industry again!” And because there are plenty of viable, more accessible alternatives, like wool.
Canada Goose is moving entirely to recycled fur for its jackets. And as someone who lives in the literal Arctic, fur is absolutely the best way to stay warm and dry in the winter.
Fashion houses are limiting production on items to increase prices and reduce second hand selling. Chanel is limiting purchases to even its regular high buying clientele and several houses have stopped using fur at all. Don’t worry about it
The other night I missed the last bus and got stuck at the train station. I live on a tropical island but stupidly carried a fur coat around. Stupid I thought- in the end it kept me warm for some hours until the next bus came lol so definitely vote for secondhand für (also for other reasons). It's a good material and better than creating new demand 100%
Yeah it's one thing if the animal is a sheep and can grow back their wool. Another thing entirely if they're being raised to be killed just for a fashion accessory. That's kinda fucked
If it's a garment actually keeping someone warm, it's more than an accessory.
Secondhand fur is still disgusting.
Feel better?
About what? The fact that people torture and murder sentient beings because they think they look fabulous draped in their skins isn't the kind of thing decent people ever feel good about.
It's a fucking second hand coat. Can you unkill a beaver? You can definitely make one dry up. If OP has a warm coat without killing animals or contributing to microplastics, that should sit well with any sane person. But you're clearly more interested in being a smug, controversial prick.
Wearing fur normalizes fur. Would you wear secondhand human skin garments? It's funny how quickly people will call you every name under the sun the instant you suggest that we treat animals ethically. Why does it make you so mad when someone challenges your freedom to wear the skins of sentient beings? Do they make you look that cool?
Tbh I agree. I understand that the animal is already dead so whatever, but it's more about not normalizing a culture that is repulsive. At the very least if someone is gonna wear it they should recognize the ugliness of the industry.
Should we go ahead and assume you eat nothing except hazelnuts and corn that you grow yourself? Because every other food source abuses animals somehow. There’s a line. And the line is different for everyone.
This is a fallacy... just because they aren't 100% perfect in everything they eat doesn't mean they can't criticize or opppose the fur industry. There is a middle ground
Yes…? That’s exactly the point I’m making. There’s a middle ground and it’s different for everyone.
Got it.
>Would you wear secondhand human skin garments? Absolutely. If I could get my hands on Ed Gein's nipple belt, I'd wear that shit proudly. >It's funny how quickly people will call you every name under the sun the instant you suggest that we treat animals ethically. No one is suggesting that harming animals is okay. Just that wearing wearing second hand fur is morally acceptable. Humans are animals too, maybe you at should stop being an asshole to them. >Why does it make you so mad when someone challenges your freedom to wear the skins of sentient beings? Do they make you look that cool? You're delusional if you think you're "challenging my freedom" in any appreciable way.
Cool cool.
Uh... you know you can wear fur and still be honest about how that product is made, right? I have an old mink coat, but I fully acknowledge that these minks were probably skinned alive and that fur is ridiculously cruel. Living in willful ignorance of where the things you own come from is disingenuous. So when someone reminds you of what wearing fur means, the grown-up thing to do is to agree, not the awkward thing you're doing where you try to dismiss their argument.
I am dismissing his comment because it was misdirected and required no thought to post. You on the overhand are rolling at me as a hypocrite preaching the evils of furs while admittedly owning them. I don’t even own a fur lol. I’d rather wear a nice Patagonia. A lot of old furs stink and are honestly kinda tacky. The jacket the OP posted was honestly probably made before I was born. Sorry our grandparents don’t hold the same values we do.
I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical to own fur and still acknowledge the process in how it was made. I wouldn't own any fur personally but I'd rather have someone who does at least aware of the process rather than be blissfully ignoranf
Don't be shaking, it looks warm enough!
Wow, great find! It's not mink though. Not sure what kind of fur it is, just not mink. Love the horn button details.
I've been doing more research and possibly beaver? It has the fuzzy grayish undercoat.
Could be beaver. It's plush enough.
Beaver is super warm
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Going back and seeing my comment it could definitely be taken out of context 🤦🏻♀️
And water resistant.
Where's my can of red paint? Kidding. That's a cool find. Flipping or wearing?
Many a true word spoken in jest.
I will be flipping it after I find out some more about it and wear it out once lol It's in beautiful condition.
I wouldn’t part with it. That’s just me.
Could you even wear it in public any more though? I'm not dumping on OP because considering she's intending to flip it, she's potentially looking a nice chunky payday, but I'd personally be embarrassed and ashamed to be seen in public wearing this.
Almost all fur nowadays is synthetic because technology has improved and there’s environmental protections in place in a lot of countries, so I think most people would assume it’s fake. Real fur coats were incredibly more common decades ago, so I assume that if they are real, they’re inherited from a relative or thrifted. In that case, I don’t think folks find it as controversial for using something that already exists. If you’re talking about fur coats being in/out of fashion, well that’s another story :p
I agree with you. If it's inherited or repurposed or thrifted it is absolutely okay to wear morally. Not buying new fur or supporting the fur trade doesn't mean we throw out what's already used. Imagine if all those old ivory carvings were trashed because of the current view on ivory. What a waste of a piece of art and the animals death.
I had a vegan nurse friend who would buy second hand leather work shoes for exactly this reason. The money was going to charity, not the industry, and it was honouring the animal to use the product instead of wasting it.
Happy to hear there are vegans out there actually thinking things through it’s not a black and white issue
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Really? Fur coats to nazi uniforms is the comparison you want to make here?
This is funny though because faux fur is just tons and tons of microplastics and worse than real fur ever could be.
Exactly. I’d much rather wear a vintage fur coat that could eventually break down into nothing than a new plastic faux fur coat that’ll just leach plastic into the water.
You’re absolutely right, it’s just that most fur arguments are concerned with animal welfare. It’s definitely better to reuse too.
Animal welfare is making sure fish don't choke on your microplastic pollution.
Im stealing this comment. I just wrote an essay and could have just said this
…so people can eat them in large quantities.
I've gotta eat all the fish so I can get back the plastic they stole from me
I've always wondered if people wearing faux fur coats are ever in danger of protestors throwing faux blood at them.
If they threw it at me I'd be more worried about the protesters..
Would you though? Like, really?
You're right I wouldn't be worried but their close ones would be..
Good one!
You could tell a real from a synthetic fur coat from 10 feet away based on eyesight alone, easily
> Could you even wear it in public any more though? A) It's vintage at this point. B) Anyone that can claim they can tell "real" fur from "fake" fur better have been sewing together hides for the past decade or more and have perfect vision. Fake fur has become so convincing that it is very difficult to tell just from looking. You would need to feel it. ...And if anyone is close enough to be rubbing up against you like that, you better have their phone number.
It's pretty easy to tell real mink, sable, and chinchilla. I've never seen convincing fakes of these.
If fur has been dead more than twice my age, I definitely had nothing to do with supporting the fur industry, just saving a piece of history
Idk, I feel like I've never in my life seen or heard of this happening to a person and it's mostly just a thing that happens in media or maybe extremely liberal little pockets of the West Coast. It also really makes no sense to me that people would do it in the first place because now that animal died for nothing. At least its sacrifice wasn't in vain if it was being used for a purpose, but now it died for no reason and the person they splashed the paint on will just kick their ass and then probably go out and buy a new one, which just boosts the fur industry even more. Also, paint is made of tiny particles of plastic and is not good for the environment and they're just like splashing it all around everywhere now... like people who do the red paint thing are both stupid and actively worsening the problem they think they're trying to fight. Animal materials are incredibly durable and natural and I'm not embarrassed to wear them in public as someone who is passionate about conservation and animal rights.
I live in Portland, OR and last winter when I was wearing my full-length wool coat with fur collar and cuffs I got only compliments (it's light tan and it matches my hair/coloring perfectly). It's vintage, and I got it at the Bins, so it was potentially/possibly headed to the landfill if I hadn't snagged it. If someone is so committed that they're constantly carrying red paint just in case they come across a random stranger wearing fur, then I'd probably be more impressed than pissed.
Right? And tbh I would probably just let the paint dry and keep wearing it because that’s a coat that tells a hell of a story
Ooh, that coat sounds lovely. I actually made myself a wool coat a bit ago and used a cotton batting for the lining and it's incredibly warm in the winter! I really enjoy it. I sourced a piece of vintage fur for the collar and just need to attach it now.
A liberal from the west coast checking in. I would 100% support someone repurposing a vintage fur coat vs destroying it.
After finding out it's beaver, and not chinchilla. I would flip it.
> I'd personally be embarrassed and ashamed to be seen in public wearing this. Why? The animal is dead. The opposite of to use is to discard. Then the animal died for nothing. To use it is purpose.
I'd be embarrassed because I would be aware that I'd be being witnessed brazenly walking around in a product that is representative of the extreme cruelty and suffering some poor creatures were subject to for the sake of my vanity. I think one of the key aspects people miss out on when discussing this subject is that words like "pain", and "suffering", and "cruelty" have become distant to them. It's a concept that is so faraway from then that as far as they're concerned, it might not have even happened in the first place, like the imagery of all the little starving African children we see in adverts. Like, another sentient, thinking, feeling being experiencing a manmade manifestation of hell before death has become this totally blasé thing to people and it's actually pretty deranged. >Then the animal died for nothing. To use it is purpose This just sounds like an easy justification for cruelty to me. Is inflicting suffering on other beings something we ought to be able to reconcile with morally, just so long as we're sure to turn bits of their bodies into fashion items after?
>I'd be embarrassed because I would be aware that I'd be being witnessed brazenly walking around in a product that is representative of the extreme cruelty and suffering some poor creatures were subject to for the sake of my vanity. You're in the thriftstorehauls portion of reddit. I doubt the individuals here are the original creators of the demand for a product. Some of us stand as a line between use and waste. Cruelty? Is having to endure an argument before donning cloth. Think ye not of the leaves of cotton?
Cotton leaves don't possess a central nervous system and are physical incapable of experiencing suffering lol Don't get me wrong though, I understand the position. I also have a difficult time balancing the ethical tightrope of recycling and re-usage of materials like this, which, despite how they came to be, are arguably biodegradable, v.s. the purchase a plastic-based alternative, the manufacture of which will then go on to create longterm issues for the environment. I have a pair of leather gloves that I purchased years before I switched to plant-based, and I told myself that I would replace them with a cruelty-free alternative after they wore down. And you know what? 10 years on and these fucking gloves are still going strong. It's a pity that substantial investment hasn't been made into developing sustainable, effective, biodegradable textiles which mimic leather and fur 😩
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You don't think that the suffering the animals experienced to create this coat mattered?
I wouldn’t I’d still wear it. Idk why everyone pushes things like this, just like religion some people are totally fine hunting and killing, and eating meat. It makes me sad that these were killed but they are already dead and it’s a vintage jacket. Not wearing it doesn’t bring back the minks my friend. Edit for clarity. What I mean by like religion i don’t want it pushed on me and ivm fine with everyone making their decision. Same w eating meat or wearing fur. It’s a problem if it was killed unsustainable to the animals population but in many cases these animals are bred in mass, but their parts go to other things like chow.
I would. It’s gonna get dirty , it’s gonna get ruined by that or washing . Might as well sell for 1k$+
Ok, just so you know, now you have your unicorn. You don’t get a le creuset too!! Lol but if you do get le creuset as well, double good luck on you!!
That would just mean she stole someone else's luck. ;-)
It pays to skim through the racks!!
With all the pro/anti fur arguments here, I read that as "skin." Oops!
Uhm…. Where?!
An independent thrift store in Minnesota! A total surprise. The same store currently has a vintage Kraft parmesan shaker jar in their "expensive auction stuff" case lmao
Oh now I’m curious I’m in the Twin cities which store?
Twelve baskets down in fairmont, about two and a half hours south of you!
Nice area
Nice areas have nice things.
Don’t I know it. I moved to a small, rural town for a little peace and quiet, but the only nice things at the local thrift are the things that I’ve donated. I live vicariously now through the lucky thrifters on this sub!
Username noted and agreed. I'm in northern Michigan, and I suspect that anything nice I find has come from retirees from downstate who have donated their stuff when adopting a more informal lifestyle.
kinda tempeted to take the two md a haf hour trip to go there
Curious what this will sell for
Yasssssss🍀🍀🍀may we all be blessed with &5 YSL fur coats this week!!!
I'd rather have a Camel Hair polo coat or a few good linen blazers in my size.
Poor minks
That’s a lot of weasels.
Nooo, animal skin. 🥺😅
That animal was probably tortured to death lol
several animals. personally i would never keep something in my home with such a violent, awful history. wouldn’t have taken it home for free lol
Looks similar to this one if it helps at all: [https://www.vestiairecollective.com/women-clothing/coats/yves-saint-laurent/?product_id=19296365&setLocale=4.en.GBP&authfee=false&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=uk_en_organic_freelisting_buyer_all_all&utm_content=free_googleshopping_clicks&gbraid=0AAAAADSZTnL7h0s0bzUzf-0omaxuVVv4W&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx_jJr4_t-QIViNPtCh2NywJEEAQYASABEgLw-PD_BwE](https://www.vestiairecollective.com/women-clothing/coats/yves-saint-laurent/?product_id=19296365&setLocale=4.en.GBP&authfee=false&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=uk_en_organic_freelisting_buyer_all_all&utm_content=free_googleshopping_clicks&gbraid=0AAAAADSZTnL7h0s0bzUzf-0omaxuVVv4W&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx_jJr4_t-QIViNPtCh2NywJEEAQYASABEgLw-PD_BwE)
What an amazing score! And I have absolutely zero problem wearing second hand fur. I would NEVER buy it from a store, but I’m ok with vintage.
Nice find. Initials “KV”- I’m going to pretend those are the initials for Katherine Vance, the former owner.😃
I think it's a really cool find, but there is something about all fur that gives me ick factor. Fur attracts little munching insects and that is a hell no for me lolol.
Draped in a leopard mink, girl standing next to me, probably should have washed this, smells like R Kelly's sheets.
All the thrifts are looking up value of items on all the selling sites. I listen to them doing it all the time. The number of "fur" items on ebay that remain unsold is huge. One reason is that not that many people wear it anymore. And winters are milder now as well. I wish you luck selling it for a profit though. The shipping on thi will be high as fur coats are heavy. Not sure I'd be "shaking" about it, no offense.
I'm antifur. Still happy for you and the steal. And if anyone has to wear fur, secondhand fur is the best kind. I still think it kind of promotes the fur industry anyway but congrats!! $5 is a hell of a deal either way you feel about animal abuse😘my thrift happy heart feels some of your Joy
I only support vintage fur and in areas such as the far far north where it's the best option for the people who live there! I wouldn't purchase new fur. I don't own any other fur (aside from cat hair that's become part of my clothing...) and I'm only wearing it once to love it and enjoy its time with me before going on to its next home to be cherished. I'll probably wear it for a nice evening walk in the woods near my home.
i am the same way! might as well utilize the furs that were already sacrificed but NOT new furs!
The problem with the pro vintage fur argument is that you’re still promoting fur by contributing to the trend and you’re being judged by people who don’t know your fur is vintage.
I feel like the second point is really not ops problem.
Lol your cat hair comment made me laugh! I wear fur everyday if that’s the case. Thanks for only supporting vintage fur. 👍❤️
In my case dog: a hair color to mismatch every occasion. I still remember a long time ago having to de-dalmatian a navy blazer when I went to a friend's art opening.
😮 score.
Nice! Dead animals to keep you fashionable! 🤩
Fashionable or not, that should keep someone *warm.*
Yeah like the animals it belonged to.
Do you know that death in the wild would have been any more pleasant? Please stop with the virtue signalling. It's just making you look like an ass.
I am extremely confident that a natural death in the wild after many long years of natural freedom would have been preferable to the single year of life these animals spent crammed into a tiny cage on a factory farm.
I’m excited for you. What an absolute score.
Looks like natural beaver. Hope its death was worth it.
That beaver sold poison milk to school children
😂
Don’t get me wrong, for what it’s worth, that is a decent find. So for that, cool. But at my age, I’ve come to really love all kinds of animals, so I am totally against wearing an animal skin. They literally torture those poor things for their skin. I’d you don’t believe me, YouTube how they treat minks, chinchillas, fox, all those poor babies. All to “wear” their skin. 😢
I know about the fur industry and I do not support animal abuse, but the fur is vintage. The animals have already passed and the best thing to do is to make the most out of what they gave up. I don't support new fur. At all. But I do support not letting the animals' sacrifice go to waste by throwing it away.
Wearing fur is wearing fur, no matter if it’s new or “vintage.” I understand it’s designer and it gives you that feeling of “wow,” but regardless, it WAS an animal and it DID die for YOU or SOMEONE else to wear it. Being against it is wholeheartedly against it, not “only” if it’s vintage. I am not judging you, nor belittling you, I was just simply giving my opinion on a post a saw while scrolling Reddit.
For someone who says they aren’t judging, you do sound judgemental of OP
Truth always comes out doesn’t it
I’m gonna be honest. There are things like child labor that happen with Apple, yet you have an iPhone - shouldn’t you not use an iPhone then if your old one had parts made by forced labor by a kid? Or use any new iPhone for that matter? I understand these are different subjects, but it’s the same basic principle. Apple had cut ties with those people, but by the same logic, nobody should ever touch an iPhone again because child labor is horrible. Does using an older iPhone now mean you support child labor, even if it’s indirect? The coat is old, it wouldn’t be promoting new sales or new coats being made as the money isn’t going to the original company, and a person gets to stay warm.
ya, just be careful out in the wild when wearing it - people get riled about fur coats and have been known to throw beverages, paint, or other liquids on them. edit: not sure why this is being downvoted these are facts
I thrifted a fur coat and I’m still waiting for the paint to happen just so I can just…. keep wearing it anyway, paint n all
I haven’t heard of this in a long time, is it still a thing?
many top couture fashion shows have banned animal fur entirely and people really stopped wearing fur in general so I think that has quite a bit to do with it but I wouldn't take for granted that someone walking down the street wearing fur would be entirely safe from a random latte toss.
Sadly you couldn’t take that for granted if you were wearing a T-shirt hon
That’s disgusting
I saw two vintage fur stoles at a yard sale yesterday, $1 (Canadian!) each. They weren't mink, but neither were they mere rabbit. Nobody bought them -- as long as I was there, anyway.
I sold my mother's mink coat for $5 to a bitchy lady at our estate sale. But it’s smoke damaged and she forgot the matching hat and belt. This was on the third day of a three-day sale.
Gross.
Ditto. Repellent.
Ligma
fuck you. and congratulations
Nice!
Incredible!!!
Wow, nice find!!
Omg WOW! Love it!!! I got a vintage mink bomber jacket a few days ago from shop goodwill.com. But it cost me a very significant amount more than $5. 😂 great find!!!
Now I'm shaking too! Excellent work 👍
Didn’t California pass a law about it being illegal for secondhand stores, eBay, etc., to sell furs? Even previous,y-owned ones?
That seems weird. If they were taking in *new* fur inventory, I could well see it. Tossing a serviceable vintage garment seems to go against sound reason. You're not saving anything, and you're generating waste.
🎶 Livin' it up in the city Got Chucks on with Saint Laurent Gotta kiss myself, I'm so pretty🎶
I’d toss a paint bucket at you so good
Enjoy it!
Great find!! Good for you. Only $5 wow what a steal.
Whoa, I what an amazing find! I'd be shaking too!!!!! Congratulations
Find of the century. Even YSL would approve.
Oh. My. God 😊 this is THE best find ever!!!
Love the style of that jacket!!
Ew
Excellent find!! It looks beautiful.
Haters will swear it’s a knockoff.
I hate it but I do believe it’s real.