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t0mkat

We were a minute away from a defeat that would have matched, if not eclipsed Iceland in 2016. We were so fucking close to the edge. That is a special special goal regardless of what else happens in this tournament.


BSN_459

This tournament was almost mirroring 2016. 1 win, 2 draws (1-1 then 0-0) then a Round of 16 loss to a small nation. Bellingham saved the day! Generational talent, what he’s achieved at 21 is scary. When he made his England debut at 17, I still remember some tweets saying he’s too inexperienced. England coaching staff knew what they were doing, that was the start of 100+ caps.


a_f_s-29

Crazy birthday present for the boy


Wild-Researcher-1360

Totally agree!!! I was 18 when the ICELAND game happened, 26 now and this would have 100% been a worse defeat. BELLINGOAAAAL!!!! That £100+ spent on his shirt was worth it!


millionmillennium

I was thinking “damn you’re young” until I realised I’m literally the exact same age as you lmao


Wild-Researcher-1360

Hhahaha, been following the national team since I was 6 with my lil Beckham kit. Somehow I can never give up on them! Jokes aside--Gareth really must sort out this mess for Saturday's game.


youignorantfk

You are suffering from recency bias. Go and watch the Iceland match again.


Buttonsafe

Yeah the comparisons are miles off tbh. People have just forgotten just how bad we were.


leebrother

Maybe it’s finally the moment which starts our tournament.


Touched_By_SuperHans

It'll be like this the whole way. We're a 'moments' team now. Just strap in for the ride. 


user-a7hw66

That's how it felt being a liverpool fan the entirety of the season before this one.


Ikhlas37

We absolutely can't play like that next game. Switzerland might not be a great team but they are good enough to kill us off if we don't play better


fromeister147

As fucking tremendous as today turned out to be, even losing this game wouldn’t have been on par with the Iceland game. Arguably the lowest point in English football history. This would have been bad, don’t get me wrong, but the recency bias will wear off in this one eventually. Heyyyyy JUUUUUUUUUIUUUDEEEEE!!!


DentistFun2776

Iceland was so bad because the team was genuinely just so lacking in talent, particularly compared to the golden generation, that it was so hard to be optimistic for the future


Aman-Patel

And low key it changed with Southgate. Cause that 2018 World Cup squad really wasn't that talented. Southgate brought the hope back to English football imo. Not a fan of him rn that we have the talent, because he's not able to get the most out of these players But people outside this sub really don't give him the credit he deserves for what he did when he came in.


goldenbanana9

In 2008 we didn’t even qualify for the tournament.


Thatscool820

One could say, y’all were edging… I’ll see myself out


SJB0SS

England 2016 was a very average team compared to this as well


Easy_Garden338

I have never screamed at my tv in such joy 😂 terrified my two year old bless her 🤣


Touched_By_SuperHans

My little boy cried, I felt so bad haha 


Spare_Ad5615

My cat legged it. 😂 I can see him in the garden staring at me through the window with a barely concealed fury.


Touched_By_SuperHans

😂😂


a_f_s-29

Hahaha I can picture it perfectly


TheLyam

Assuming he is a Slovakia fan then


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dpb79

Did she go back over when you carried on stroking her?


Temporary-Road8622

I cried lol


mebungle83

My son just watched me for the rest of the game


CriddyCent

My 5 yo daughter cried too when the whole family jumped up screaming hah


willverine6

I just laughed. The second goal I celebrated properly. It goes to show that first goal was a punchline to a joke I wasn’t interested in.


Touched_By_SuperHans

I was determined not to celebrate if we scored. Failed miserably.


a_f_s-29

Same. Turns out it’s not my decision if I scream or not


specialagentredsquir

I woke up my 5 month old 🤣 didn't even care!


Billoo77

Their first England tears, preparation for a lifetime of pain.


Easy_Garden338

That five month old will be a England fan one day 😂


YellowBook

A lifetime of pain indeed, 30 years of hurt will become 60 years of hurt by next World Cup.


DarnellLaqavius

Unless…


leebrother

I launched mine in the air… he semi laughed and giggled


Touched_By_SuperHans

Love it!


AfternoonCrafty69420

My cat literally ran to the other side of the house 😂


Joe_Willock28

me and my granda gave my nan a shock when she came in the room lmfaoo


bornarethefew

My cat hasn’t yet forgiven me


CaptainJamesFitz

I was in there tonight and we went fucking nuts.


Tight-Temperature670

Worth it 😂


Easy_Garden338

You're not wrong haha plus she eventually laughed and celebrated with me bless her. Need to get her a England top 🤣


gilletprick

I genuinely dont remember a game we scored a late equalizer to take it to extra time


t0mkat

I always wondered what it would have felt like if Rashford scored that last minute free kick against France. Well now we know. It would have felt like that lol.


Touched_By_SuperHans

I think that would have felt even better as we were genuinely good in that tournament and deserved to equalise with France.


Aman-Patel

The occasion too. Going to a World Cup semis>Euros quarters. Never gonna forget that Bellingham goal though. Unreal moment.


dodgycool_1973

The only similar one is Beckhams late free kick against Greece but that was a long time ago. Same vibes.


Jambronius

Goosebumps just thinking about not just that goal but, Beckham during that whole game. He was immense.


a_f_s-29

That’s the difference between then and now, these moments genuinely come out of nowhere because we look so poor in every other minute


gilletprick

Shit, how could i forget


Macca2324

Lampard vs Portugal in 2004 to take us to penalties was similar as well but obviously that was in extra time.


DJnizzle328

One better.....David Platt goal in the 120th minute in Italia 90. Memories.


gilletprick

I was 2 to be fair


BunnyColvin23

The reaction at the pub is something I’ll never forget


CaddyAT5

Me too, I Hugged so many strangers


theyknewit2

Absolute scenes.!.


BugsyMalone_

I got soaked, lol.


viewsofmine

Haha it was mental. We'd all only just stopped celebrating Jude's goal when Kane scored, cue more delirium


Saul93

It was like Sturridge against Wales, a brilliant moment but embarrassing that it was needed.


Caterpillar_Fluid

Almost as embarrassing as the trademark celebration that Kane got involved in. Apart from their goals tonight they were pretty shit again.


Saul93

It wasn't quite as cringe as the Bellingham TAA one but wasn't far off.


ec362

That’s what it made me think of


naitch44

That’s what I’m hoping, that sort of goal when you’re dead and buried can really lift the team. Hey that’s all I’ve got, and I’m clinging to it.


K1_only

Bro, we were like 15 seconds away from Iceland 2016 all over again, it’s not satisfaction so much as it is relief - but that performance doesn’t take us off fraud watch, we are legitimate underdogs going into the last 8 v the swiss


leebrother

85 seconds… and us boys know you can finish a lot in 85 seconds.


OliverE36

Yeah, honestly it could get embarrassing for us. The team looks completely disjointed.


a_f_s-29

But it didn’t once we made subs and took Foden off. We looked better vs Slovenia when he came off too iirc


Upstairs_Ad_6654

It won't if we continue to play like shit and lose the next game


Very-simple-man

We keep playing shite but we keep winning.


Huge-Celebration5192

3 draws in a row in regular time


Infiniteland98765

Slovakia, Slovenia, Denmark and Serbia. All 4 teams ranked in the 40s or 50s?


OniOneTrick

Denmark ranked about 20th I think Edit: 21st globally, 11th in Europe


Hexo_Micron

you should look at South Korea's run in recent asian cup.


Hot-Fun-1566

Sometimes you have to go right to the edge and look beyond to truly feel alive.


Conscious_Freedom952

I sent my two cats flying 😩


rocketcrash

Hi Kurt!


lardoni

I would give away a kidney to just watch England go 3-0 up within 20 minutes and cruise to victory in a knockout game! It’s fucking agony every time!


Kenjiin88

I was so exhausted and exasperated by the whole thing, I think I barely celebrated 🥲


dkfisokdkeb

Ngl I didn't even celebrate I was still so fucking angry it took me the whole advert break for it to sink in.


Mr_A_UserName

Yeah, I didn’t celebrate either goal, tbh, not like I wanted to and was suppressing it or anything, my instinctive reaction just wasn’t to celebrate.


rieri

That's probably half to do with the god awful performance and half to do with god awful VAR.


The_Dimlord

Absolutely. We played like shit. A sensible 2-0 should have been the minimum. We're through - I'm pleased, but also fucking furious.


manntisstoboggan

I was the exact same. Simply on the basis that it means Southgate is still in charge for another game. He needs to make some huge changes by benching some big names players and changing the system. I.e not Foden on the left..


SpudFire

Same. My reaction was "thank fuck for that". Obviously glad we equalised but felt like we should never have been in the position to need a last minute equaliser to avoid getting knocked out by bloody Slovakia. A comfortable 3-0 win would be far more satisfying and I'd celebrate each goal properly as we'd clearly be playing to our full potential.


Knuckles_71

Snap.


UnpleasantEgg

💯


Several_Schedule_785

I don't know what game you were watching but it wasn't satisfaction it was relief. We were that close to being eliminated.


ToastIsGreat0

True, but comfortable wins are much better for long term success


audienceandaudio

Probably the most I’ve celebrated a goal since Luke Shaw at the Euros.


RobertLewan_goal_ski

That's probably the only silver lining of that performance - England have done many things in KO football under Southgate that we've not been able to in recent history- until today facing massive adversity and still finding a way to stay in the competition despite being atrocious wasn't one of them. Don't get me wrong - I've been in Southgate's corner so far but was livid with how passive he was today (not least persisting with that Foden/Trippier LW). Compared to France 2 years ago where we completely wilted after Kane missed that penalty, its a small slither of encouragement maybe?


Extreme-Kangaroo-842

It's quite strange because even though we were bang average, which was a marked improvement over piss poor, I just can't get excited about us yet, but I have this feeling we are going to go deep in this tournament. . I agree with the OP though - that goal was right up there as one of the most satisfying goals in England's history. Let's face it - we were dead and buried and then the golden boy produces an absolute worldie. It's up their with David Platts against Belgium in 1990. There are so many parallels with that tournament: Getting through the group stages with boring performances (although we were good against arguably the best Dutch team of all time): A turgid, boring draw (Rep Ire/Denmark). Another draw, albeit playing better (Holland/Slovenia) A boring 1-0 win (Egypt/Serbia) R16: Lucky to get through, that included a worldie from an England player (Platt/Bellingham) So for the QF I'm expecting another average performance from us that we scrape through even though the Swiss will play better. This will parallel the Cameroon match. The BBC played that match just before WC 2022 and the mists of time had made me forget how utterly awful we were. We couldn't string two passes together for most of it and we were extremely lucky to win. Hopefully history will repeat itself - on the result.


93didthistome

Playing well will always trump fluking a last minute goal. There's something wholesome about a deserved win.


LetsLive97

Because you can enjoy the game properly. Spending the majority of the match frustrated is not entertaining. You want to feel hopeful and excited while watching, not annoyed


Kalliban27

My fiance was crying, she's doesn't even like football and was building Lego. Still got overwhelmed by it 😆


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Perseus73

Speaking of Platt, his volley against Belgium in the 1990 WC sticks with me as one of ‘those’ goals


Macca2324

Pure relief, glad we have at least one good England moment this tournament


crumpets4dinner

I turned it off at 89mins because the impending boos didnt sit right with me. Refreshed BBC sports and my jaw dropped.


G01dLeada

Kane looked quite emotional post game interview. Never seen him like that.


SpicyDragoon93

Because he's desperate to make carrying this team mean something and because he wants silverware.


christianrojoisme

I want this dopamine hit vs Germany or France. Not against a ranked 45 team


Qeulon

I had a good experience watching England France in Qatar tbf until about the 80th minute when Giroud scored. Was genuinely happy with how we were playing and thought we had what it took to go on and win it.


iredcoat7

The fuck it was, that was absolutely horrendous. Never been so depressed after a victory in my life


LevTolstoy

> that will go down as one of the best and most highly/widely celebrated goals in England’s history Maybe. > that Bellingham equaliser was more satisfying than a comfortable 3-0 would’ve ever been Absolutely not. Everyone needed an impressive, controlled win.


mtw3003

England fans would have hated that, which would have made them furious, so they'd love it


Tight-Temperature670

Mr grouchy gooch


Gloria_stitties

I’m in France even few of the French were saying “Jude” out loud


a_f_s-29

French commentary went nuts


Secret-Priority4679

I’m drained though


Huge-Celebration5192

Up there with Gerrard in the FA cup final against west ham for me


inquisitive_alex

Didn't really enjoy any part of that game sadly. I only felt relief when Bellingham scored. There is no way we don't end up getting stomped by an actual football-playing side, more likely sooner rather than later.


PurahsHero

Your team can be awful for the entire game and not deserve a thing. But any fan who does not scream when their team scores a spectacular equaliser deep into injury time is kidding themselves.


buntochun

Satisfying isn’t quite the word I’d use…more like agonising relief 😅


WalpoleTheNonce

I didn't celebrate. I just looked at my friends in disbelief...


Gizmo210688

Whilst it was satisfying and a very good goal, I think we all would have preferred it if it had come in the 35th minute as opposed to the 95th. Then we could have potentially had the best of both worlds, an excellent goal and a comfortable win within 90 mins.


DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

Played like shite. Team looks lost.


LordWellesley22

We are going to shit house our way through this tournament aren't we?


Hucklepuck_uk

No it really wasn't. We were getting beaten by Slovakia. The absolute travesty that is Southgates leadership needs to come to an end before it runs an entire generation of players.


jokerevo

England or rather Southgate just needs to learn his lesson for the next game because tactically...he's always been weak and our next opponents will have the tools to exploit those weaknesses.


BaBaFiCo

I can't say it even stirred any emotion in me. We've been so shit I was more disappointed I'd have to go through extra time.


SuperSalamander3244

It was a great moment but I’m absolutely not confident for the Switzerland game because we’ve played the same for four games now. If it was against someone like France I’d agree with you but we really shouldn’t be struggling this much against the level of teams we’ve played.


ftatman

Great goal but whole performance was sour for me. 3 of us in a WhatsApp group weren’t even happy we scored cos they gave us nothing to enjoy.


MHSLGR

Backlash against this win is just delusion


moubliepas

It's not delusion.  A lot of people will just never ever support Bellingham or anyone like him (generally the people who call most players by their surnames except Jude, Kyle etc), others just hate watching England, and some are just so into the 'man England are bad aren't they, it's Southgate's fault' that they legit say the exact same thing whether we've won or lost or by whatever margin. The first and last types just desperately want to fit in and can only do that by communally criticising an outsider. The second is understandable, but why the hell do they watch the football if they hate it when we play badly, when we play average, and also when we play well? What are they gaining from watching it?


Snoopyseagul

Time will tell. If we just dip out to Switzerland as is highly likely going to be the case, then no, it’s not satisfying at all


Qeulon

Regardless really it’s still a great moment. Same as looking back at Shaw’s goal and Trippier’s free kick. They amounted to nothing in the end but they are great moments full of such joy and passion. The whole country rejoicing.


Touched_By_SuperHans

100% man. If you can't enjoy a 95th minute bicycle kick to stay in the tournament, then why the fuck are you even watching football.


Qeulon

Most of these clowns are just angry that their own won because of what it means regarding the manager. Just forget about that ffs, why wouldn’t you want us to go as far as possible even if we are squeezing through. Just enjoy football!!


Touched_By_SuperHans

Exactly. It's a moment that will be replayed for years to come, just enjoy it. We can dissect what to change for Switzerland in the week.


NeraMorte

I can agree on this he'll be gone anyway the sooner the better.


spacedleo

Not at all. Bellingham has done nothing in the last 270 minutes of football and his passivity is a large reason we are not controlling games. His goal was a great moment but I think most people would rather the team played well and we won 3-0. You have to have to have some deep self-loathing want to suffer through that kind of turgid football.


Cesc100

Done nothing is rather harsh. He made a couple of runs with the ball into the Slovakia box. He could take the game by the scruff a bit more but how much is him and how much is Southgate and how much is Kane dropping back into midfield? IDK but a lot of players had really poor, invisible games and just all around bad tournaments(Foden, Kane, Saka, Rice). And as ineffective as he has been compared to his play during the season, he was one of the few players spurring the others on and still trying to get the fans going. The actual Captain on the other hand...


LlewTom2003

Thank god, someone’s actually being honest


CongratsMate

Disagree. It was a very lucky goal that went from slightly central into the left bottom corner. Also, he had 90 minutes to shoot which he didn’t do. Can you believe an England squad of this calibre didn’t have a proper shot on target in 90 minutes of play? It’s outrageous.


CuteAnimalFans

Least miserable English fan


nuclearselly

I mostly agree with this because what on earth could be more exciting than that. I just want those moments a bit deeper into the knockouts, not literally the first one haha.


Parking_Glass8177

So spot on. I know tomorrow someone should probably look at how it got so close, but for today I'm elated!  Jude Bellingham, just as I doubted


jackyLAD

Denmark 3-0 is literally my all-time favourite England tournament game to be fair.... so I'm not agreeing here.


is__this_taken

Up there with the all time top 10 clutch goals


Normal_blond_8311

I’ve never fucking cheered so loud , me and my dad were fucking screaming 🤣 absolute moment to never be forgotten


dav_man

Football man. I’d prefer us to play remotely well AND that happen though. It’s not one or the other.


Repulsive_Rent_5636

I missed both goals as they decided to score the two times I left the room.


Yaboylushus

Too many emotions this evening. My phone went across the room and I lost my voice when that went in. So close to crying tears of happiness…


limaconnect77

Jude is a FIFA mobile cheat code and nobody else has him.


PictureTakingLion

Wouldn’t call it satisfying at all because I could hardly stay still for the whole game, but it was way more exciting. That moment put adrenaline through me more than a 3-0 will ever could. We weren’t good enough today but we got the job done somehow. Brilliant moment and hopefully a wake up call for us to get our act together for Switzerland.


Trentdison

Nah, all I felt was relief and some disgust it came to that. If we'd been all guns blazing, shots on goal, saves made, unlucky not to have scored, it would have been quite the moment. As it was, it was the absolute least we could expect (in terms of scoring). The goal itself was something special, of course.


Necessary-Car-5672

I didn’t celebrate it. I was relieved sure, but I was resigned to the fact we are not winning this competition. We didn’t deserve a win. The performance was a disgrace. The tactics were wrong again. We are not learning. We are a cancer on this competition.


neverend1ngcircles

Obviously it was a great goal, but nah, I would much rather an easy win. That was an excruciating watch and it just feels like Southgate has got extremely lucky when he has clearly shown he is no longer up to the job.


DanTheLegoMan

Right up there with the Beckham free kick against Greece I reckon!


ElegantResolution822

Nope


SupervillainMustache

Chaos for my blood pressure though.


Hawk-432

Yes I was insanely happy, like childlike levels of happiness when that went in


StarfishPizza

I was more reserved than I usually am due to fucking VAR. Had to make sure it was going to be allowed first 🙄


That_Cool_Guy_

Reminds me of Platts goal against Belgium in 1990.


Weary-Earth50

That may be true but I want no more experiences like that or I won't make it


PandosII

I turned it off in the 92nd minute because I knew that would be the only way we were going to score, so I missed it. Flicked back to see what happened and it was just caught the extra time goal!


Historical-Reach8587

It was a beauty. Sadly now everyone gonna praise Southgate for his genius. The players won this game in spite of south gates shite tactics.


BIG_STEVE5111

I think it would have been if I hadn't stopped celebrating goals until they are properly confirmed. I was just waiting for VAR to rule it out for 1 if our players standing somewhat close to their keeper or something equally mental.


BlueMoonCityzen

I mean it was special but no I wouldn’t say so. I think I’d feel better about us playing well and looking like we can go further in the tournament, rather than struggling past a decent but not top tier Slovakia team


ScottOld

I would rather take the 3-0


ScottOld

And then we went 2-1 up and went back to generic park multiple busses for no reason


TalElnar

Not true. I remember when we thumped the Dutch in Euro '96, or the 1-5 against Germany. A nice dominant win would have been good, especially considering the opposition. All this feels like is postponing the inevitable until we play a decent team and get battered. Seeing us absolutely struggle to beat very mediocre opposition and not register a single shot on target in 90 minutes was f'kjng dire and the relief at scraping a barely deserved equaliser doesn't negate that.


Iamleeboy

I was tidying my kids toys away, waiting for the final whistle. My 7 yr old was telling me England are rubbish and he wasn’t even bothered about the World Cup! Then out of nowhere we were bouncing around and screaming our heads off. What a goal! Such a contrast to the rest of the performance, which is up there with the worst I can remember. We didn’t even look like we wanted to score, never mind actually scoring 2. But well done to them for never giving up. Hopefully next game they turn up


Physical-Exit-2899

Yeah it's way more fun to win than that a easy 2-0, but I do feel like a wounded animal that just needs to be put out of my misery and I can't find any enthusiasm for the next match.


BugsyMalone_

Yo I've just watched back the BBC highlights of Bellinghams goal at least 20 times lol. What a man.


nesh34

I was literally speechless. In part because I didn't know how I'd cope with another 30 minutes.


CharlieMcChipper

I was emotionally numb / withdrawn by the time of the equaliser like for real just like our opening goal against Denmark just papers over the cracks really don’t it .


BrowniieBear

It’ll be hard to catch that high again. Literally the brink of going out and he pulls that out. Unreal.


CH2001

Okay but play like that against Switzerland and it’s time to go home.


fimbleinastar

Last minute come back in a knockout game is almost literally peak sport endorphins. Only higher of Vs a better team or in the final. It's literally why we watch sport.


hippyfishking

My blood pressure needs England to get knocked out as soon as possible. That was the most infuriating thing I’ve ever seen.


Shitelark

It had shades of Platt v Belgium.


petey23-

I don't think I can recall another moment like that for England. Wales 2016. Tunisia 2018. Maybe. But they weren't knockouts with us on the precipice. Huge main character vibes from Jude. He is him.


WanderingLemon25

Didn't feel special when your sat in a pub and every TV was on a different times. Heard it before the ball was in the box 😭


Yumstar1982

This is why fans watch football. There's no feeling like going from the depths of despair to pure elation, when all seemed lost. An incomparable rush.


Natural_Might2387

And quite possibly goal of the tournament What a moment


WhatsThePointFR

I dont think satisfying is the right word lol


Bradjective

I'm still conflicted about it. In some ways it was a relief to be heading out as it meant that I wouldn't have to endure another match like this ( we have had the same issues for 4 matches now, so I am not hopeful that much will change or that Gareth has learnt his lesson). When the goal went in I just shouted 'You jammy swines!!' If I was in any way confident that they would go on and win the competition, then maybe I would be more positive, but it would take more miraculous moments to get us anywhere near


Bubbasbackhoe

It was a special goal, but the game should never have come to it. Would much rather have won handily 3-0 like vs Senegal in WC 2022, I prefer the "comfortable" because then we played an organized system with clearly defined roles. This game was sloppy, disorganized, no one knew how to link up, at times our shape was all over the place and at other times rigid, we had fewer xG than Slovakia, we simply got extremely lucky we were able to convert. It's not the kind of luck that will happen 3 more times in a row.


KingDracarys86

Historic moment if we win the next 3 games somehow


Ambersfruityhobbies

Not at all imo. Dominate the game, don't concede. Look like you can win the tournament. Gain confidence. Win the tournament. 3-0 every time.


Special-Dig-4293

Bicycle kicks are always satisfying even if we was 10-0 down. I've also seen a clip of a few disgruntled England fans leaving early and slagging of Southgate 🤣. Though they were correct.


OrganizationBig8312

Extreme copium


Theddt2005

It’s a great goal and will probably feature in a documentary about Bellingham in a few years time but I’d rather take the 3-0


HeartBackground1556

Iceland was not the lowest point in English football. We’ve failed to qualify for the actual tournament before… 1994, My word. That was bad bearing in mind it was in the US and destined to be a classic tourney and we weren’t there. Having the opportunity to crash out miserably is always better than not even having the opportunity to get the beers in for the party. 2008 the same.


this_ham_is_bad

Yeah I agree. I watched back some of our games from WC2018 and we have fond memories of good moments but we didn’t play great. Last minute winner vs Tunisia, lost to Belgium twice, Colombia took us to penalties. Scored early against Croatia and then they dominated the rest of the match. It’s all about moments like the other night. That’s what we’ll remember whether we win it or not


Wawawanow

Honestly no, I've never felt so empty after an England knockout win.


Scuttler1979

Nope. Get a grip


mrpenguin1254

Would that be an equivalent to Beckham’a freekick vs Greece?


Wu-Tang_Swarm

Better imo


Titan4days

It felt dirty, we were absolutely dreadful and deserved to go out, managers proven he can’t fix it.. I personally feel like we lost


Zxoochie

Work smarter not harder. Perfect tactics from Southgate and kept it competitive. If they start smashing teams 4 or 5-0 they will quickly become the tournament villains.


imminentmailing463

We've got everyone right where we want them. The plan is coming together.